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June 01, 2006, 09:07:57 AM »
José
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ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
Arch Duke Felix, 3rd son of Emperor Karl I, turned 90 yesterday.
He was born in Schönbrunn 31 May 1916.
In 1952 he got married to Pss. Anna-Eugénie von Arenberg who died in San Angel, Mexico 9 Jun 1997 .
They had 7 children:
1) Maria del Pilar , b.Mexico 18 Oct 1953; m 1980 Vollrad-Joachim Georg Günther Rr u.Edler von Poschinger. They had 5 children.
2) Karl Philipp, b.Mexico 18 Oct 1954; m.1st Munich 4 Sep 1994 (div 1997) Martina Donath (b.Vienna 18 Jun 1955); m.2d Pau 12 May 1998 Annie-Claire Christine Lacrambe (b.Pau 15 Feb 1959) One son from each marriage and a strange story of kidnapping his own son of 1st marriage from his former's wife custody :-?.
3) Kinga, b.Schloß Guttenberg 13 Oct 1955; m1985 Wolfgang Hubert Hermann Frhr von Erffa They have 5 children
4) Raimund, b.Mexico 28 Jan 1958; m.1994 Bettine Götz. They have 3 children.
5) Marie Adelheid (Miriam) b.Mexico 21 Nov 1959; m.Mexico City 1983 Jaime Marcos Pedro Corcuerra Acheson . 4 sons
6) István, b.Mexico 22 Sep 1961; m.Budapest 1993 Paola de Temesváry (b.Budapest 4 Jun 1971) . 3 children
7) Viridis, b.Mexico 23 Sep 1961; m.1990 Karl Harold William Dunning-Gribble (b.Paris 29 May 1961) . 4 children
I would like to know more about him.
I understand he lives in Mexico for a long time. AFAIK he worked there for VW.
Can someone confirm ?
Please post pictures of the couple, their children and grand-children.
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June 02, 2006, 12:11:28 AM »
synnadene
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
Some pics about Felix and Anna Eugenie (sorry, not the best quality)
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June 02, 2006, 12:32:36 AM »
synnadene
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Archduke Raimund and Bettine Götz
Archduke Stephan and Paola von Temesváry
Archduchess Viridis Aloisia
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June 02, 2006, 07:28:24 AM »
José
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
Thank you for all those photos.
Looking forward for the rest of the family
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June 02, 2006, 11:58:38 AM »
britt.25
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Velikye Knyaz
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
I would also be very interested in seeing the rest of the family, but to find pictures of felix and his family is quite difficult , I have also made this experience. The other children I have never found in pictures, I think Felix is simply not so famous as Otto. But it´s interesting, he´s the second brother, who is now over ninety. Zita became also became very old, but Karl not
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June 04, 2006, 10:38:20 AM »
José
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
I was in Madeira last week.
Every time I go there I try to visit Karl's grave in the Church of Our Lady of Monte.
It is a moving place.
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June 04, 2006, 10:45:12 AM »
José
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
A suggestion:
Why not start a thread with Karl and Zita's children, their marriages, and their children.
F.i., I've never seen pictures/portraits of ADs Adelheid, Charlotte or Elizabeth - Otto's sisters (as adults).
Only as children.
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June 04, 2006, 11:35:10 AM »
britt.25
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Velikye Knyaz
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
Yes, you are right. I think there should be in general an own thread for the Habsburg. It´s a bit that they are mixed under the headline "Hohenzollern". There are already many Habsburgs discussed here, so I found it better to make an own over-thread for them. But I do not know, who decides about this.
Yes, making a thread on the children of Karl and Zita would be interesting, too. I only wondered if it not already here?
But it seems to me that it is not here. I also did not see -by you- mentioned children of Karl and Zita as adults. They are not easy to find, and it´s a pity.
But I have some other pictures, and maybe we can make a new thread for it.
It´s very interesting that you have been to Madeira to visit the grave of Karl I. I have never been to Madeira, and it must be interesting. Are there many memorials concerning the life of Karl I and his family there? Is the grave much visited. If you have any pictures it would interest me!
I am also interested in the person of Karl, a former teacher of mine has published a very interesting article on his ambitions of peace in the year 1917, but often this is understood wrongly and are interpretated as a separate peace. My teacher made the thesis that, if the empire of Karl had gone on (he always wanted to save as some kind of federation, where the states have more freedeom to decide on their own) we maybe would not have had the third Reich.
In some points I found this thesis a bit going to far, but this topic is much too complex to discuss it here in some sentences , if, it must have an own thread about Karl and his political views.
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June 05, 2006, 07:36:04 AM »
José
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
Sorry, I can’t post photos.
You will have to do with those sites.
And I couldn’t find any photo of Emperor Karl’s grave.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vitor107/sets/1419659
On 4th pic of 6th row you can see a statue of Sissi, who spend some time in Madeira.
BTW the statue was meanwhile removed to a not so sombre place.
And on 5th, 6th and 7th row you can see the hotel I stayed in. The yellow round building over the sea.
http://www.madeira-web.com/PagesP/churches/monte.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gracinha08/93680757/in/set-1762060/
From Church of Our Lady of Monte (Hill) is the departure of the famous descent to Funchal in the typical wicker basket charriots
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gracinha08/94881487/in/set-1762060/
Yesterday a statue of Emperor Karl was unveiled in the churchyard of Our Lady of Monte, with the presence of TI&RH AD.Rudolf and Monika of Habsburg, and TRH The Duke and Duchess of Bragança.
Wish they had unveiled it last week :-/[ch61516]
http://www.jornaldamadeira.pt/not2005.php?Seccao=17&id=18567
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June 05, 2006, 10:46:08 AM »
britt.25
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Velikye Knyaz
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
Thanks for mentioning all the interesting sites. I have to look , when I have more time....It´s also interesting because I study Portuguese!
THANKS!
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June 22, 2006, 11:22:55 AM »
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
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Arch Duke Felix, 3rd son of Emperor Karl I, turned 90 yesterday.
He was born in Schönbrunn 31 May 1916.
In 1952 he got married to Pss. Anna-Eugénie von Arenberg who died in San Angel, Mexico 9 Jun 1997 .
They had 7 children:
1) Maria del Pilar , b.Mexico 18 Oct 1953; m 1980 Vollrad-Joachim Georg Günther Rr u.Edler von Poschinger. They had 5 children.
2) Karl Philipp, b.Mexico 18 Oct 1954; m.1st Munich 4 Sep 1994 (div 1996) Martina Donath (b.Vienna 18 Jun 1955); m.2d Pau 12 May 1998 Annie-Claire Christine Lacrambe (b.Pau 15 Feb 1959) Recuperated his son 1999, of first marriage after Mother lost custody and kidnaped him 1996
3) Kinga, b.Schloß Guttenberg 13 Oct 1955; m1985 Wolfgang Hubert Hermann Frhr von Erffa They have 5 children
4) Raimund, b.Mexico 28 Jan 1958; m.1994 Bettine Götz. They have 3 children.
5) Marie Adelheid (Miriam) b.Mexico 21 Nov 1959; m.Mexico City 1983 Jaime Marcos Pedro Corcuerra Acheson . 4 sons
6) István, b.Mexico 22 Sep 1961; m.Budapest 1993 Paola de Temesváry (b.Budapest 4 Jun 1971) . 3 children
7) Viridis, b.Mexico 23 Sep 1961; m.1990 Karl Harold William Dunning-Gribble (b.Paris 29 May 1961) . 4 children
I would like to know more about him.
I understand he lives in Mexico for a long time. AFAIK he worked there for VW.
Can someone confirm ?
Please post pictures of the couple, their children and grand-children.
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June 22, 2006, 01:24:03 PM »
britt.25
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Velikye Knyaz
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
Was this a mistake? Did you want to answer this question or post anything???
Would be interested!
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Re: ArchDuke Felix of Habsburg
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Arch Duke Felix, 3rd son of Emperor Karl I, turned 90 yesterday.
He was born in Schönbrunn 31 May 1916.
In 1952 he got married to Pss. Anna-Eugénie von Arenberg who died in San Angel, Mexico 9 Jun 1997 .
Some pictures...
Archduchess Anna-Eugénie
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They had 7 children:
1) Maria del Pilar , b.Mexico 18 Oct 1953; m 1980 Vollrad-Joachim Georg Günther Rr u.Edler von Poschinger. They had 5 children.
Two of the daughters of Maria del Pilar....Kinga (1981)
and Maria Franziska (1987)
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3) Kinga, b.Schloß Guttenberg 13 Oct 1955; m1985 Wolfgang Hubert Hermann Frhr von Erffa They have 5 children
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