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Title: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on September 09, 2007, 01:43:04 AM
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this is, possibly, my 2nd favorite mansion/palace in Petersburg.   the Yusupov palace on the Moika is my favorite, but i do have to say, this mansion was more tastefully furnished but lacked the legendary art collection -- but i must add, i am rather partial to 18th century french furniture & decoration).

btw, this was the home of prince Lev Mikhailovich Kochubey, the 1st husband of countess Daria Evgenievna de Beauharnais, & their children.



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Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on September 09, 2007, 01:49:44 AM
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Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on September 09, 2007, 01:53:03 AM
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Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on September 09, 2007, 01:55:55 AM
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Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on September 09, 2007, 01:58:33 AM

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Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on September 09, 2007, 02:18:09 AM
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the children of prince Lev Mikhailovich Kochubey
& his 1st wife (div. 1911), countess Daria Evgenievna de Beauharnais

prince Evgenii Lvovich Kochubey de Beauharnais (1894-1951)
princess Natalya Lvovna Kochubey de Beauharnais (1899-1979)


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**Note: the name "Kochubey de Beauharnais" is the surname listed on the website
http://www.angelfire.com/in/heinbruins/Bavaria.html 
entries:
  2.7.5.1.1. (Evgenii)
&
  2.7.5.1.2. (Natalya) )


***Note:  there was another woman with the name Natalya Kochubey de Beauharnais, this one born in 1923 (entry: 2.7.5.1.1.2.), and was the daughter of Evgenii and therefore, was the niece of the Natalya in the foto above.

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Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Svetabel on September 09, 2007, 05:22:50 AM

Actually that is not the main facade of the Kochubey mansion - the Kochubey mansion now is known as the Rumyantsev mansion  and an affiliate of the State Museum of the History of St.Petersburg.

This is the main facade of the mansion
(http://www.spbmuseum.ru/i/data/rum/rum.jpg)

And the photos of the interiors are really from there  :)
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: BobG on September 09, 2007, 03:08:09 PM
Brian's first photo is the Facade of the house at 45 Galernaya St and as Svetabel says the front facade is on the Neva as indicated in her photo.

I visited the house as the Museum of the History of St. Petersburg and except for the two staircases (the main one and the wooden one that lead to the upper floors) I can't recognize any of the rooms.  But I remember most vividly an attendant who must have been in her seventies or even eighties, explaining to me in Russian about the Rumyanstev's.  I couldn't understand anything but "Rumyanstev" but she made me understand that she was proud of the family and their contributions to Russia.

BobG
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on September 10, 2007, 02:04:31 AM
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i probably should have dated the fotos...but i forgot.

these photos were taken ca.1930 (i'm assuming when the interiors were being dismantled, to whatever degree) and show what remained of the Rumyantsev interiors.

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the remaining photos of the intact interiors (& the children), were taken in 1906, during the Kochubey occupancy and show the Kochubey interiors.     i'd be interested in seeing more of the Rumyantsev interiors, for comparison.


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Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Svetabel on September 10, 2007, 03:03:12 AM

I visited the house as the Museum of the History of St. Petersburg and except for the two staircases (the main one and the wooden one that lead to the upper floors) I can't recognize any of the rooms.  But I remember most vividly an attendant who must have been in her seventies or even eighties, explaining to me in Russian about the Rumyanstev's.  I couldn't understand anything but "Rumyanstev" but she made me understand that she was proud of the family and their contributions to Russia.

BobG

Well, it's really interesting that the mansion is called now the Rumyantsev not the Leuchtenbergs (who had lived there before the Kochubeys), or the Kochubey. Count Nikolay Petrovich Rumyantsev (1754-1826) bought the mansion only in 1802 (the building had belonged to the Golitsyns) - he was the Chancellor of the Russian empire ans a patron of arts and sciences, and he collected artifacts of Russian history and culture and wanted his house to be The Museum after his death. And the mansion was the Museum in 1831-1838 years though it was moved to Moscow in 1861. In 1882 the building was purchased by Zenaida Beaugarnais, wife of Duke Evgeniy of Leuchtenberg.
So now that's the Rumyantsev mansion  in honour of the famous owners and collectors of the XIX century. :)
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Svetabel on September 10, 2007, 07:13:23 AM
In 2003 year the restoration works were completed in the formal rooms of the mansion. Now the rooms facing the Neva river preserve the design of the 1880s (without furnature only). Other rooms are temporary exhibitions.
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Svetabel on September 10, 2007, 07:37:20 AM
Brian,

I found info that the pictures you've posted were from 1903 year, not the 1906. Your source is the site of the photoarchive and my source is a brochure on the mansion  :-\...A small matter though! :)

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This staircase is preserved - I saw it and was much interested with its view...



Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on October 03, 2007, 03:02:36 PM
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Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Arleen on October 07, 2007, 01:54:54 PM
FABULOUS pictures Brian, as always!

Arleen
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on November 18, 2007, 03:15:36 AM
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princess Daria Evgenievna Kochubey
(nйe countess de Beauharnais)

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Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Vassili_Vorontsoff on November 18, 2007, 05:20:16 PM
Thank you so much Lilijones...I'M MESMERIZED
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on November 20, 2007, 12:11:04 AM
Thank you so much Lilijones...I'M MESMERIZED



:-)

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Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Nemos on November 27, 2007, 05:20:22 AM
(http://i030.radikal.ru/0711/c7/46381d0f4d90t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i030.radikal.ru/0711/c7/46381d0f4d90.jpg.html)

Картина Перуджино Плач о Христе (1491). (Из описания Липгарта коллекции Кочубей).

Из коллекции Л.М. и Е.Л. Кочубей. Ранее кажется входило в собрание Великой Княгини Марии Николаевны.

А где она сейчас ?

Picture Perugino Crying about the Christ (1491). (from description E. de Liphart of a collection Kochubey).

From collection Л.М. And E.L.Kochubey. Earlier it seems entered into assembly of Great Princess Maria Nikolaevny.

And where it now?
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Nemos on November 27, 2007, 05:31:29 AM
(http://i020.radikal.ru/0711/af/45b9c247b638t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i020.radikal.ru/0711/af/45b9c247b638.jpg.html)

Картина Поклонение Младенцу (1500). (Из описания Липгарта коллекции Кочубей).

Из коллекции Л.М. и Е.Л. Кочубей. Ранее скорее входило в собрание Великой Княгини Марии Николаевны.

Или эта где она сейчас ?


Picture Worship the Baby (1500.) (From description E. de Liphart of a collection Kochubey).

From collection L.M. And E.L.Kochubey. Earlier entered into assembly of Great Princess Maria Nikolaevny more likely.

Or this where it now?
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Nemos on November 27, 2007, 05:40:25 AM
(http://i022.radikal.ru/0711/ce/66b621f9f36ft.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i022.radikal.ru/0711/ce/66b621f9f36f.jpg.html)

Картина Богоматерь с младенцем (XV век). (Из описания Липгарта коллекции Кочубей).
Из коллекции Л.М. и Е.Л. Кочубей. Ранее скорее входило в собрание Великой Княгини Марии Николаевны.
Или эта где она сейчас ?

Picture the Mother of god with the baby (XV century). (From description E. de Liphart of a collection Kochubey).
From collection Л.М. And E.L.Kochubey. Earlier entered into assembly of Great Princess Maria Nikolaevny more likely.
Or this where it now?
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Nemos on November 27, 2007, 05:48:03 AM
(http://i030.radikal.ru/0711/b4/99322aecbca7t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i030.radikal.ru/0711/b4/99322aecbca7.jpg.html)

Картина Портрет неизвестного автор Бартоломео ди Серафимо. (Из описания Липгарта коллекции Кочубей).
Из коллекции Л.М. и Е.Л. Кочубей. Ранее скорее входило в собрание Великой Княгини Марии Николаевны.
Или эта где она сейчас ?
Picture the Portrait of the unknown person author Bartolomeo di Seraphimo. (From description E. de Liphart of a collection Kochubey).
From collection L.M. and E.L.Kochubey. Earlier entered into assembly of Great Princess Maria Nikolaevny more likely.
Or this where it now?
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Nemos on November 27, 2007, 05:53:06 AM
(http://i041.radikal.ru/0711/a4/3d50e5204ee8t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i041.radikal.ru/0711/a4/3d50e5204ee8.jpg.html)

Картина Святой Иероним, мастерская Тициана (1512-1513). (Из описания Липгарта коллекции Кочубей).
Из коллекции Л.М. и Е.Л. Кочубей. Ранее скорее входило в собрание Великой Княгини Марии Николаевны.
Или эта где она сейчас ?
Picture Sacred Jerome, workshop Titien (1512-1513.). (From description E. de Liphart of a collection Kochubey).
From collection L.M. and E.L.Kochubey. Earlier entered into assembly of Great Princess Maria Nikolaevny more likely.
Or this where it now?
Title: Re: Palace of the Leuchtenbergs, aka Kochubey mansion, 44 English Quay
Post by: Nemos on November 27, 2007, 06:00:31 AM
(http://i027.radikal.ru/0711/ea/d8aa24589d7ct.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i027.radikal.ru/0711/ea/d8aa24589d7c.jpg.html)

Картина Мальчик, Фра Витторио Гисланди (XVII -XVIII). (Из описания Липгарта коллекции Кочубей).
Из коллекции Л.М. и Е.Л. Кочубей. Ранее скорее входило в собрание Великой Княгини Марии Николаевны.
Или эта где она сейчас ?
Picture the Boy (Un garson), Fra Vittorio Ghiaslandi (XVII-XVIII). (From description E. de Liphart of a collection Kochubey).
From collection L.M. and E.L.Kochubey. Earlier entered into assembly of Great Princess Maria Nikolaevny more likely.
Or this where it now?