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Discussions about Russian History => The Russian Revolution => Topic started by: Annie on December 03, 2004, 11:13:51 AM

Title: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Annie on December 03, 2004, 11:13:51 AM
After seeing Olga's avatar I was wondering if there are any more pics of Lenin as a boy or a young man when he still had hair. I saw one on a documentary once, but nowhere else. Do any of you Reds have any for us please?
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Sergio on December 03, 2004, 01:50:58 PM
(http://www.stel.ru/museum/lenin_museum_images/lenin_young.jpg) Lenin, 1887.




Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Annie on December 03, 2004, 02:44:31 PM
Thanks! I guess he was just never handsome, hair or no hair :-/ he's kind of pug faced  :P
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: rskkiya on December 03, 2004, 03:50:29 PM
Well I think that as he aged his features became - if not hansome- then certainly dramatic!

But, then again, I am [glb]pure evil[/glb]
(I also have a "black aura!" but at least it's slimming!)

LOL
rskkiya
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 03, 2004, 04:14:37 PM
He looks VERY Russian. Which = Gorgeous in my eyes.  I am a sucker for Slavs, especially my own :)  
Oh, and MB, of course ~~sigh~~
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Sergio on December 03, 2004, 07:55:05 PM
(http://www.sadcom.com/pins/photos/lenin/lenin02.jpg)(http://www.dhm.de/lemo/objekte/pict/f51_2887/index.jpg) 1890.

(http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/media/image/early/1891.gif) 1891. (less hair)

(http://www.compromat.ru/main/lenin/image/17_02.jpg) 1895.



Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Sergio on December 03, 2004, 08:00:33 PM


4-year-old Lenin, with sister Olga.1874.
(http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/photo/family/lenin-y4.jpg)


(http://www.tampere.fi/culture/lenin/ulja1.gif)


Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 03, 2004, 08:41:25 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/leninstwin2.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/leninslosttwin.jpg)

Schto ti dymayesh? Long lost twins? ;)  Lenin and Leonardo DiCaprio

(btw, it was my favorite resident Russian who suggested this :) )
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Merrique on December 03, 2004, 08:43:38 PM
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/leninstwin2.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/leninslosttwin.jpg)

Schto ti dymayesh? Long lost twins? ;)


o0o0o0o0o freaky deeky baby. :o ;D
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Belochka on December 03, 2004, 11:22:25 PM
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He looks VERY Russian. ~~


Actually the Ulyanov name is derived from the word ulya (beehive).

There is some suggestion that his family derived from the Chuvash tribe in the Kazan region. There is a stronger suggestion of Mongol features rather than slavic features. His family does have German ancestors on his maternal side of the family (nee Blank)  


Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 04, 2004, 07:29:33 AM
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Actually the Ulyanov name is derived from the word ulya (beehive).

There is some suggestion that his family derived from the Chuvash tribe in the Kazan region. There is a stronger suggestion of Mongol features rather than slavic features. His family does have German ancestors on his maternal side of the family (nee Blank)  




Well, thanks, but actually, I know about the beehive. Listening to Russian family members translate last names precisely (something we all love) has been and continues to fascinate and inform!

As for Lenin's heritage, yes, I know about that too.  My husband's mothers family are part Bashkiri, the rare 10 percent that was/is Christian and blonde/blue-eyed.  But some of those features still show on their faces, blended with much of the rest of Russia's melting pot. Lenin's photos show a face full of the rich ethnic heritage of Russia, including Slav.

And so I completely stand by my statement.  Lenin looks SO Russian. Yes he does!
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 04, 2004, 07:42:23 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/Kirov.gif)

This one hardly does him justice, but Kirov is one of my FAVE Revo cuties.  :-*

Sergey Mironovich Kirov (Russian: Серге́й Миро́нович Ки́ров; March 27 [O.S. March 15] 1886 – December 1, 1934) was a prominent early Bolshevik leader whose assassination precipitated the Great Purge, which represented the dismissal, arrest, or execution of many Old Bolsheviks from the Soviet government.

Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Annie on December 04, 2004, 08:01:35 AM
Thanks for the pics! His family must not have been too poor to afford those.

Looks like he started going bald at 20 and had lost it all by 25. That's mighty young. The baby pics are cute. Stalin had a fine head of hair but was also not handsome (IMO) I agree with Merrique, not my cup of tea, (even with the wig!) but have at them girls! Diff'rnt strokes 4 diff'rnt folks! :D

Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 04, 2004, 08:05:10 AM
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Thanks for the pics! His family must not have been too poor to afford those.

Looks like he started going bald at 20 and had lost it all by 25. That's mighty young. The baby pics are cute. Stalin had a fine head of hair but was also not handsome (IMO) I agree with Merrique, not my cup of tea, but have at them girls! Diff'rnt strokes 4 diff'rt folks! :D



Maybe I missed it somewhere, but I don't think anybody ever suggested the family was poor, and photos were not really expensive anyway.
I am still stunned with young Lenin's modern-day lookalike, someone that many, many people believe is handsome.  Somebody ought to make a Lenin movie! :)
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Merrique on December 04, 2004, 08:46:50 AM
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/Kirov.gif)

This one hardly does him justice, but Kirov is one of my FAVE Revo cuties.  :-*

He's just so gorgeous!  And when he *smiles,* I just melt...


Sergey Mironovich Kirov (Russian: Серге́й Миро́нович Ки́ров; March 27 [O.S. March 15] 1886 – December 1, 1934) was a prominent early Bolshevik leader whose assassination precipitated the Great Purge, which represented the dismissal, arrest, or execution of many Old Bolsheviks from the Soviet government.



This one just doesn't do it for me Dashkova.I thought Lenin was better looking.

They ought to make a movie on Lenin and get Leo to play the part,even my hubby said he saw a resemblance.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Annie on December 04, 2004, 10:19:16 AM
What about Trotsky? He was the real hippie type! ;)
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 04, 2004, 10:24:35 AM
I must say, now I think about it, Lev Davidovich is probably my favourite. The stern, dark, Marxist intellectual does it for me.  ;D I shall leave Dashkova and Rskkiya to fight over Volodya.  ;)


                               
*Olga's evil/scary side comes to the front*


For forty-three years of my conscious life I have remained a revolutionist; for forty-two of them I have fought under the banner of Marxism. If I had to begin all over again I would of course try to avoid this or that mistake, but the main course of my life would remain unchanged. I shall die a proletarian revolutionist, a Marxist, a dialectical materialist, and, consequently, an irreconcilable atheist. My faith in the communist future of mankind is not less ardent, indeed it is firmer today, than it was in the days of my youth.  
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Merrique on December 04, 2004, 10:26:48 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/Sebastiao/stalin.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Merrique73/andy9.jpg)

Hummm looks like Stalin has a twin in Andy Garcia.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 04, 2004, 10:35:43 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/Trotsky-1896.gif)   


Leon Trotsky (Russian:  Лев Давидович Трóцкий (help·info), Lev Davidovich Trotsky, also transliterated Leo, Lyev, Trotski, Trotskij, Trockij and Trotzky) (November 7, [O.S. October 26] 1879 – August 21, 1940), born Lev Davidovich Bronstein (Лeв Давидович Бронштéйн), was a Bolshevik revolutionary and Marxist theorist. He was one of the leaders of the Russian October Revolution, second only to Lenin. During the early days of the Soviet Union, he served first as People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs and later as the founder and commander of the Red Army and People's Commissar of War. He was also among the first members of the Politburo.

Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 04, 2004, 10:36:02 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/trotsky.jpg)



After leading a failed struggle of the Left Opposition against the policies and rise of Joseph Stalin in the 1920s and the increasing role of bureaucracy in the Soviet Union, Trotsky was expelled from the Communist Party and deported from the Soviet Union. An early advocate of Red Army intervention against European fascism, Trotsky also opposed Stalin's peace agreements with Adolf Hitler in the 1930s. As the head of the Fourth International, Trotsky continued in exile to oppose the Stalinist bureaucracy in the Soviet Union, and was eventually assassinated in Mexico by Ramón Mercader, a Soviet agent.[1] Trotsky's ideas form the basis of Trotskyism, a term coined as early as 1905 by his opponents in order to separate it from Marxism. Trotsky’s ideas remain a major school of Marxist thought that is opposed to the theories of Stalinism.

He was one of the few Soviet political figures who was never rehabilitated by the Soviet administration.

Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Annie on December 04, 2004, 10:56:03 AM
Wow, Andy Garcia must play Stalin! :o

Trotsky was the wild hippie radical, bushy hair and John Lennon glasses!

Modified on 04.20.2009 by Alixz - Actually Lennon had Trotsky glasses.  Trotsky, after all, had them first.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 04, 2004, 11:03:51 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/Trotsky-1937.gif)


Trotsky in 1937
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 04, 2004, 12:32:50 PM
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He is (excuse the wording) damn fine.  ;)


Oooh yes, I do agree.  Intellectual, radical...a certain fire about him, I was even quite smitten of him as he was portrayed as an old man in "Frida" Wow, what a movie!!
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 04, 2004, 09:05:36 PM
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(http://www.ceip.org.ar/gifs/1900InexileinSiberia20.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/trotsky2.jpg)


Trotsky
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 04, 2004, 09:10:14 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/Trotsky88.jpg)


Trotsky
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 04, 2004, 09:26:06 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/trotsky2.jpg)

Trotsky compared to Nikolai Alexandrovich who has as much fire in his belly as a slightly damp dishcloth.

Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 05, 2004, 12:23:10 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/trotsky8888888.jpg)


Trotsky
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 05, 2004, 02:01:51 AM

Alexandra Mikhailovna.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/Kollontai.jpg)

Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 05, 2004, 02:04:41 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/ak1938.jpg)



Praskovia Ivanovskaia was a Russian revolutionary, member of both the Narodnaya Volya (People's Will) and Socialist-Revolutionary Party.

Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 05, 2004, 07:17:46 AM
How could I forget the other Volodya?  ::) His semi-unrequited passion for Lilichka just melts the heart.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/ar2_1.jpg)

I go by
Handsome, twenty two year old.


~Mayakovsky

He was born the last of three children in Baghdati, Georgia where his father worked as a forest ranger. His father was of Ukrainian Cossack[1] descent and his mother was of Ukrainian descent. Although Mayakovsky spoke Georgian at school and with friends, his family spoke primarily Russian at home. At the age of 14 Mayakovsky took part in socialist demonstrations at the town of Kutaisi, where he attended the local grammar school. After the sudden and premature death of his father in 1906, the family — Mayakovsky, his mother, and his two sisters — moved to Moscow, where he attended School No. 5.

In Moscow, Mayakovsky developed a passion for Marxist literature and took part in numerous activities of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party; he was to later become an RSDLP (Bolshevik) member. In 1908, he was dismissed from the grammar school because his mother was no longer able to afford the tuition fees.

Around this time, Mayakovsky was imprisoned on three occasions for subversive political activities but, being underage, he avoided transportation. During a period of solitary confinement in Butyrka prison in 1909, he began to write poetry, but his poems were confiscated. On his release from prison, he continued working within the socialist movement, and in 1911 he joined the Moscow Art School where he became acquainted with members of the Russian Futurist movement. He became a leading spokesman for the group Gileas (Гилея), and a close friend of David Burlyuk, whom he saw as his mentor.

Wiki
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 05, 2004, 07:21:03 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/vm.jpg)

Attractive and virulent must be a prerequisite for being a Slav Marxist.  ;)


Vladimir Mayakovskiy, poet.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Merrique on December 05, 2004, 07:24:21 AM
That's the great thing about this forum,you see and learn new stuff everyday and get a good laugh to boot.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 05, 2004, 07:33:14 AM
Do you have any nominations, Merrushka?*Hint hint*
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Merrique on December 05, 2004, 07:45:03 AM
Hmmmm not yet,I'd have to think about that for a little bit.When I think of one I'll post a picture and drool with the rest of ya. :D
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 05, 2004, 08:37:26 AM
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She'd probably have a good profile shot.   ;)

She does!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/nstprofile.jpg)



Can someone identify this picture?  Alixz 04/20/2009
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 05, 2004, 08:45:32 AM
[glb]Krasnaya Roza.[/glb] Another revolutionary with lots of fire.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/luxemburg.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/rosa1.jpg)


Unusual looking, but most attractive nonetheless.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Merrique on December 05, 2004, 08:53:21 AM
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She does!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/nstprofile.jpg)


She is rather attractive.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 05, 2004, 10:25:46 AM
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... post a picture and drool with the rest...

(http://img71.exs.cx/img71/8505/a7xnikita.png) (http://img61.exs.cx/img61/4641/e5zlyonya2.png) (http://img127.exs.cx/img127/9615/r8rgorby.png)

Kruschiev                                Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev                                      Gorbachev
                                           Леонид Ильич Брежнев                                                                     
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 05, 2004, 10:41:16 AM
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(http://img71.exs.cx/img71/8505/a7xnikita.png) (http://img61.exs.cx/img61/4641/e5zlyonya2.png) (http://img127.exs.cx/img127/9615/r8rgorby.png)


        Kruschiev                          Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev                                      Gorbachev
                                           Леонид Ильич Брежнев                                                                                                           


Leave out the reviled Gorbachev and I'm there! :D  Khruchev's my FAV.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 05, 2004, 10:54:46 AM
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Leave out the reviled Gorbachev and I'm there! :D  Khruchev's my FAV.


Oh, I think Gorby too deserves to be included here as a candidate...   ;)
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 05, 2004, 11:04:36 AM
I'm staying with my Lev Davidovich.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/trotskyprisoner.jpg)

Trotsky
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 05, 2004, 11:16:41 AM
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I'm staying with my Lev Davidovich.  ;) ;D :-*

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/trotskyprisoner.jpg)


Trotsky as a prisoner




I suppose Leo is ok (if you like all that hair  :o ;))
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Annie on December 05, 2004, 11:27:30 AM
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I suppose Leo is ok (if you like all that hair  :o ;))

I DO like it! I have always been a fan of longer hair on guys. That's one thing I don't like about the Imperial era men, their hair is too short!

How about a goatee? Anyone like Sverdlov?

(http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUSsverdlov.JPG)

Yakov Mikhaylovich Sverdlov (Russian: Я́ков Миха́йлович Свердло́в); known under pseudonyms "Andrei", "Mikhalych", "Max", "Smirnov", "Permyakov" 3 June [O.S. 22 May] 1885 – March 16, 1919) was a Bolshevik party leader and an official of the Russian Soviet Republic.

Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 05, 2004, 03:46:15 PM
(http://img62.exs.cx/img62/1346/r0xkrupskaya.png)(http://img62.exs.cx/img62/9402/a6rkrupskayaandlenin.png)



Lenin and Krupskaya

Nadezhda Krupskaya, the daughter of a military officer, was born in St. Petersburg on 26th February, 1869. A radical from an early age, Krupskaya was a committed Marxist and was the member of several illegal organizations.

Krupskaya taught in an evening school for adults and in 1894 met fellow revolutionary, Vladimir Lenin. Two years later Lenin was arrested and sentenced to three years internal exile in Siberia. Krupskaya joined Lenin in Shushenskoye and they married in July, 1898. While living in exile Lenin and Krupskaya also translated from English to Russian, The Theory and Practice of Trade Unionism by Sidney Webb and Beatrice Webb.

Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 05, 2004, 04:09:01 PM
(http://img118.exs.cx/img118/4141/z6uyeltsin.png)




Boris Yeltsin
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Forum Admin on December 05, 2004, 04:19:18 PM
ummm, I thought this topic was called "young Lenin with hair"...what does this all have to do with the topic?
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 05, 2004, 05:59:13 PM
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ummm, I thought this topic was called "young Lenin with hair"...what does this all have to do with the topic?


Apologies for the many interesting tangents the topic has created, but I think everyone who is posting is enjoying this thread  (and getting along so well, wow what a concept)!
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Merrique on December 05, 2004, 06:04:41 PM
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ummm, I thought this topic was called "young Lenin with hair"...what does this all have to do with the topic?



Sorry about this FA.We all just got carried away fawning over handsome revos and russian men,and it looks like women too.We just can't help ourselves.
We have strayed from the topic but it's turned out to be a good thing.No ones fighting or giving each other sarcastic remarks.We is being good for a change. ;D
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Forum Admin on December 05, 2004, 06:34:43 PM
I don't care how much "fun" y'all are having. What I do care about is keeping threads on topic. if you want to start another thread fine. but I've deleted all the off topic posts after my warning. If you guys can't stick to the topic, this one gets locked. I don't mean to be 'mean" but I have a responsibility to keep things on point.

FA
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 05, 2004, 07:08:45 PM
Ok, does anyone have anything else to say about young Lenin with hair?  :)
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Sergio on December 05, 2004, 07:11:56 PM
I just want to say one thing: Lenin lost his hair very quickly and so young! What a terrible thing to happen to a teenager.  :-/
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 05, 2004, 07:30:38 PM
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(http://img71.exs.cx/img71/8505/a7xnikita.png) (http://img61.exs.cx/img61/4641/e5zlyonya2.png) (http://img127.exs.cx/img127/9615/r8rgorby.png)


Kruschiev                                Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev                                      Gorbachev
                                           Леонид Ильич Брежнев                                                                     



The 3rd pic, ok What is on that guy's head? sorry before i write one? lol sorry
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 05, 2004, 07:40:46 PM
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The 3rd pic, ok What is one that guy's head?


We have to stick to the topic of young Lenin with hair. Sorry.
;)
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Louise on December 05, 2004, 07:42:40 PM
I don't have a thing nice or indifferent to say about Lenin's hair, or Stalin's hair etc. What I do have to say is that I find it very difficult to understand why people who post here under the guise of learning more about the Romanov's, The Alexander Palace, and Russian Imperial history have to fawn and make adolscent comments about the men who directly/indirectly cause the death of the IF and their relatives. And I find it more than disgusting to fawn over men who contributed to the wholesale slaughter of their fellow countrymen and women. I find it neither funny, nor cute. I do find it more than sickening.

While I applaud the expression of free speech, I also wish understanding the responsibilty of that free speech was taken and understood.

Louise

Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 05, 2004, 08:09:03 PM
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I don't have a thing nice or indifferent to say about Lenin's hair, or Stalin's hair etc. What I do have to say is that I find it very difficult to understand why people who post here under the guise of learning more about the Romanov's, The Alexander Palace, and Russian Imperial history have to fawn and make adolscent comments about the men who directly/indirectly cause the death of the IF and their relatives. And I find it more than disgusting to fawn over men who contributed to the wholesale slaughter of their fellow countrymen and women. I find it neither funny, nor cute. I do find it more than sickening.

While I applaud the expression of free speech, I also wish understanding the responsibilty of that free speech was taken and understood.

Louise



Louise, everyone is just being silly, perhaps as a reaction to all the arguing that's been going on here recently. Sometimes it's nice to stop being ultra serious all the time and just lighten up. No one means anything by it, it's just for fun.

Helen
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 05, 2004, 09:11:12 PM
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We have to stick to the topic of young Lenin with hair. Sorry.
 ;)


I know it off topic, but what the hell is on his head? ???


Well back to topic, I never knew Lenin had hair, because most pics I see of him his hair is gone. PLUS  " I NEVER liked Lenin", so iIdon't care if he had hair.  >:( for what he did to the Romanovs.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 05, 2004, 09:23:08 PM
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I know it off topic, but what the hell is on his head? ???


Well back to topic, I never know Lenin had hair, because most pics i see of him his hair is  gone. PLUS  " I NEVER liked Lenin", so i don't care if he had hair.  >:( for what he did to the Romanovs.


I believe that it is a birthmark they call "portwine stain" - it has been Gorby's trade mark.

Lenin's hair (or lack of) may be a fascinating subject for some - so let's refrain from being so judgmental  ;).
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Annie on December 06, 2004, 08:04:56 AM
I wonder if the loss of his hair at such an extremely young age had an effect on his psychological makeup? I'm serious, this could have worked to make him an even more bitter and negative person.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 06, 2004, 08:47:11 AM
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I wonder if the loss of his hair at such an extremely young age had an effect on his psychological makeup? I'm serious, this could have worked to make him an even more bitter and negative person.


It could very well be... I remember reading in one of the Romanov books, it may have been N & A, that just around 1916-17 when Lenin was living abroad, he was getting really frustrated about the way things were going in Russia and thinking that the revolution will not happen during his lifetime, and besides that, the hair balm he purchased to help his bald pate was not working either. I am serious, this is what the book said! At the time I thought it was kind of funny. But maybe some of his personality was shaped by this "hair" (or lack thereof) frustration. Hey, I've heard of stranger things! Does anyone else remember the passage I am talking about?
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 06, 2004, 09:24:13 AM
Yes, I remember that passage.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: rskkiya on December 06, 2004, 09:36:41 AM
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I don't care how much "fun" y'all are having. What I do care about is keeping threads on topic. if you want to start another thread fine. but I've deleted all the off topic posts after my warning. If you guys can't stick to the topic, this one gets locked. I don't mean to be 'mean" but I have a responsibility to keep things on point.FA
HEY!
    FA I must say that I think you are out of line on this one! Too often you seem to complain that we are all being too mean to one another, and now when a few of us start larking about on a tangent you come down like a ton of bricks on us. You know, I dreamt the other night that you were yelling at everyone tho stay on topic -- it seems to have been a prophetic dream! We cannot win for losing - can we ? >:(
    I am deeply hurt and offended by this and I hope that you will at least have the decency to jump onto all  the Royal Family sites that are even a bit off topic!
I thought that you would be happy that we were "all getting along!"
Rskkiya

BACK ON TOPIC
  Lenin is usually pictired as bald in his most famous images - and as a few people here found some photos from his youth we had all gathered to compare them and joke about a bit - For those sensative souls who were so offended with our larks and  previous posts -- I hope that all is now clear to you!
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Forum Admin on December 06, 2004, 09:43:28 AM
I will repeat: I am not trying to be mean. I want everyone to have fun. BUT, this discussion is about Lenin with hair when he was younger. Others have created the appropriate threads for you to "lark off" all you want to.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Annie on December 06, 2004, 10:04:01 AM
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FA:
you are 100% right but at the "Windsors" thread, under the "Duchess of Gloucester", people also don`t stick to the topic because they are talking about Prince Charles and Camilla titles if they get married !!?!!!
You "have a responsibility to keep things on point" so I hope you go to that topic and post the same warning message you write here.

Thank you.

Best,  
 
Sergio


There is a thread called "Charles and Camilla" on the Windsors forum, maybe someone should bump it if there's new news.


Helen_azar: Thanks for the Lenin bald head story, I hadn't heard that.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 08, 2004, 11:16:35 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/alexulyanov.jpg)


Alexander Ulianov   Lenin's brother



Wonder if he'd have kept his full head of hair had he lived?
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 08, 2004, 11:33:29 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/leninyoungsketch.jpg)

Very nice sketch of a youthful Lenin (with hair!)
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Jane on December 08, 2004, 11:53:06 AM
Here's an idea:  Why don't you both hit the "Ignore" button with regards to each other's posts?  8)
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 08, 2004, 12:13:21 PM
Ok. Back to topic, with fingers crossed that it stays that way without further unappropriate interruption.
Here's an interesting clip from a lecture on Lenin during the days leading to the coup.  It concerns hair (in this case, his incognito wig):

The decision to mount the coup was taken on October 10th. Lenin had returned to Petrograd disguised as a train engineer. At 10pm he crossed the city for the first Central Committee meeting he had attended since July. The meeting was held in Sukhanov's apartment. His wife, Galina, was a Bolshevik, and had ensured that her husband would not return until late that night. Twelve members took part. They all wore wigs and make-up, glued-on mustaches and false beards. Lenin wore a wig of gray hair. It had been ordered from a wigmaker who worked for the Maryinsky Theater and whose normal clientele were aristocrats. He was puzzled why Lenin wanted a gray model since most of his customers wanted to look younger rather than older. Lenin also wore glasses and had shaved off his trademark beard.
http://www.historyguide.org/europe/lecture6.html
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Forum Admin on December 08, 2004, 12:14:33 PM
Personal snipes directed at one person must be kept to PM. Im deleting this garbage. BOTH of you just learn to ignore it.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Annie on December 08, 2004, 01:38:17 PM
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/alexulyanov.jpg)

Alexander Ulianov

Wonder if he'd have kept his full head of hair had he lived?

Is that his brother?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/leninyoungsketch.jpg)

At first glance I thought this was Leonardo DiCaprio in "Titanic"
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 08, 2004, 01:45:16 PM
That is his brother Aleksandr. As for the diCaprio appearance, this was discussed earlier in the thread.  I posted a photo of Leo next to Lenin, at my husband's prompting.  He noticed it before I did.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Forum Admin on December 08, 2004, 01:58:32 PM
Guys,
Keep it g rated for the kids please.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Olga on December 09, 2004, 09:18:02 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/alexulyanov.jpg)

He doesn't look much like Vladimir Ilich. Or Maria Ilnichna either.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Dashkova on December 09, 2004, 08:37:11 PM
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dashkova/alexulyanov.jpg)

He doesn't look much like Vladimir Ilich. Or Maria Ilnichna either.


Yes, Olga, I noticed that, too. I would not have thought them brothers based on the photos.  From what I've been reading lately, though, the two truly were close and VI really looked up to his older brother as teacher and mentor.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Tania+ on November 22, 2005, 11:24:05 AM
It's interesting to know how Lenin was brought up. Was he brought up in an understanding household, or was he beaten into submission as a child growing up ?

Who other than his parent's disciplined him ?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Tatiana
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Russian_Duchess_#5 on November 22, 2005, 12:38:52 PM
You can find this info in Nicholas and Alexandra, and other books specifying on Lenin also, I presume. I dont have my N & A book right now, but I believe they fought alot and that it wasnt a calm household.

Sofi :)
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Nathalie on March 19, 2006, 05:54:35 AM
Yes,-according the book of Robert Service- they did have a calm and quite intellectual household.
He didn't have a "rough childhood", such as e.g. Stalin had with his drunkard father.
In fact, if I remember well, the child-Lenin as the one, who terrorized his siblings.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: hikaru on March 19, 2006, 09:02:58 AM
Due to the fact that all books about Lenin's childhood was made as an alternative of an New Testament chapters about the life of the Christ, it is hard to know the true.
But due to the fact that his mother was a lady in waiting at the court ( there is a rumour about it),
his childhood was very warm and intelligental.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Emyrna on August 26, 2006, 08:36:53 PM
This is a passage from the book Nicholas and Alexandra by Robert K. Massie that describes some what Lenin's brother, Alexander thought of him: "Alexander particularly disliked Vladimir's impertinence, arrogance and mockery of their mother.  Once when her two sons were playing chess, Maria reminded Vladimir of something she had asked him to do.  Vladimir answered rudely and did not move."  Another passage states that the comfortable household collapsed when replying to a census questionnaire, Lenin wrote:  "Nonbeliever (in God) since the age of 16", this was when his dad died of a stroke.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Emyrna on August 26, 2006, 08:46:27 PM
I'm sorry but Lenin doesn't look like he was blessed with good looks (lol), talk about UNATTRACTIVE!!! lol  It seemed like the older he got, the more he started to look like the devil incarnate. lol
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Sarastasia on September 02, 2006, 10:43:35 AM
I know that Lenin had two brothers (Aleksandr and Dmitrii) and three sisters (Olga, Anna and Maria), but somebody told me that he had a twin! :o
I couldn't believe this and checked it out on the internet - no such remarks to be found.
But the person who'd told me discovered this by watching a program on a channel we have here in Britain.

Admittedly, it is probably just a conspiracy theory - knowing the channel - but I just wanted to clear things up

Thanks (and sorry if this is completely wrong!)
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: ferngully on September 11, 2006, 08:47:58 AM
quite the little hellraiser then  ::) what a rebel
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Alixz on April 12, 2009, 07:50:24 PM
http://www.stel.ru/museum/Lenin_childhood.htm

I don't believe that Lenin had a "twin".  The Revolution and the "Party" were considered his twins as he believed so thoroughly in them.

Check out the link above, it has good coverage of Lenin and his family and where he was born and grew up.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: TampaBay on April 15, 2009, 12:42:49 PM
Many Romanovs were bald.  Which Romanovs had good hair?

Nicholas II?

TampaBay
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: LisaDavidson on April 20, 2009, 01:22:09 AM
Many Romanovs were bald.  Which Romanovs had good hair?

Nicholas II?

TampaBay

How is this related to the topic, TB?
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Svetabel on April 20, 2009, 07:57:17 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/vm.jpg)

Attractive and virulent must be a prerequisite for being a Slav Marxist.  ;)


Can someone identify this picture?  Alixz 04/20/2009

Vladimir Mayakovskiy, poet.
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 15, 2009, 08:10:53 PM
I haven't seen these photos together before, very interesting topic!
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: AGRBear on December 29, 2009, 10:24:19 AM
http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu/history/biographies/l/lenin_vladimir.cfm

Here is a new article on Lenin and his lineage.

Do any of you agree or disagree with the article?

AGRBear
Title: Re: Lenin's Childhood - Family History - His Hair
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 26, 2010, 01:27:11 PM
More photos about young Lenin (and not only about him young) and other mebers of his family like sisters, brother, some houses where he lived,parents, grandfather, etc...

Lenin (http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/photo/index.htm)