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Title: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Michael HR on June 13, 2008, 11:13:42 AM
Hello,

I thought I would ask if anyone here is going to Russia and Ekaterinburg for the anniversary of the massacre of the Imperial Family this year to pay respects? I might try to take a week to visit St Petersburg, Tsarkoe Selo and Ekaterinburg if I can, I wondered if any other members will also visit at this time?

Michael HR 
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: amartin71718 on June 13, 2008, 04:07:09 PM
I am toying with the idea of going in 2018.
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Michael HR on June 13, 2008, 04:13:03 PM
Hi Marty,

I think we should all try to get there for that date if possible.
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: nena on June 13, 2008, 06:13:21 PM
Very good idea, Michael HR and Marty_1994

We can not know what is going to happen...Who knows?
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: LisaDavidson on June 20, 2008, 04:39:50 PM
Very good idea, Michael HR and Marty_1994

We can not know what is going to happen...Who knows?

I am told Ekaterinburg in July is miserable - but I will be there in 2018.
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Michael HR on June 21, 2008, 04:45:06 AM
Yes 2018 makes more sense. Perhaps we should all try to get there. I would start of in St Petersburg, Tsarkoe Selo, Tobolsk and then Yekaterinburg for the 17/18th if I possibly could. That will be a very sad day

Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: nena on June 21, 2008, 06:08:41 AM
Agree with LisaDavidson and Michael HR.
I read Russian Orthodox Church is going across St-Petersburg to Ekaterinburg long walk, remembering 90 years since murders in Ekaterinburg. Also, Russian Orthodox Church don't recognize new found remains of Tsarevich and Grand Duchess Maria.  :(
From one Russian web
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Holly on June 21, 2008, 05:18:55 PM
I am going in 2018 as well.
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: amartin71718 on June 21, 2008, 07:02:49 PM
Very good idea, Michael HR and Marty_1994

We can not know what is going to happen...Who knows?

I am told Ekaterinburg in July is miserable - but I will be there in 2018.
Miserable, why?
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Holly on June 21, 2008, 07:18:14 PM
Very good idea, Michael HR and Marty_1994

We can not know what is going to happen...Who knows?

I am told Ekaterinburg in July is miserable - but I will be there in 2018.
Miserable, why?

I'm guessing because it can get extremely hot in July-August and infested with mosquitos.
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: StevenL on June 21, 2008, 07:32:11 PM
it can get extremely hot in July-August and infested with mosquitos.


Mosquitos -- is that what the locals call Romanov groupies ?   :)
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Michael HR on June 22, 2008, 03:44:01 AM
<gasp>

Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: amartin71718 on June 22, 2008, 05:46:53 PM
How hot does it get?
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Robert_Hall on June 22, 2008, 09:09:04 PM
90's f  32c and  very humod.  I am not a Romanov acolyte nor do I tolerate well that sort of enviorment. I will definitely not be there. Rather be in Livadia.
Title: Re: Anyone goign to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: amartin71718 on June 22, 2008, 11:00:19 PM
It can get like that in Wisconsin, too. Mosquitoes are also abundant.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Sarastasia on July 17, 2008, 02:52:48 PM
I soooooooo wanted to be there for today, but...

I'm planning for 2018 too, but I bet it's gonna be HEAVING with people then!!

Hmmm... weather doesn't sound too good... but wanna be there regardless!!
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: markjhnstn on July 18, 2008, 09:14:23 AM
I watched some of the ceremonies at Ekaterinburg on the Russia Today channel. Looked like many people were at the night-time vigil taking part in the walk from the church to the first burial location. Amazing. Anyone here take part?
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Sarastasia on July 18, 2008, 10:38:04 AM
There was a short descriptive piece in another thread; one of the members is writing a book on it, I believe... Can't find it, but I pretty sure I copied the text to my harddrive... I'll see if I can find it and post it.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: markjhnstn on July 18, 2008, 11:14:39 AM
That would be great. Thanks
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Sarastasia on July 18, 2008, 12:49:32 PM
Here it is:
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I have the full programme of the Tsar's Days for 13-22 July [2007] in Russian and you can certainly take it as read that this will be pretty much the template for future years in terms of the dates and events.  Here's a resume:

Photographic exhibition of large size pictures of Romanov family on display around the Church on the Blood from day one throughout
Various films and lectures in the basement lecture room of the Church throughout - though all in Russian.
Russian Orthodox Church meetings and events in the Church throughout - again all in Russian
Bell-ringing, RO choirs and various musical performances on a temporary platform outside the Church
Procession through the city with sacred icons (14 July)
Prayers and services also at the Svyato-Troitsky Sobor in Ekaterinburg during the period
All night vigil at the Svyato Triotsky (14 July)
Concert of RO music at the monastery at Ganina Yama (15 July)
Procession to commemorate arrival of the family in the city:  from Shartash (the railway point, now long since destroyed) where Tsar and Tsaritsa first arrived, to Church on the Blood (16 July)
NIGHT OF 16/17 JULY -  all night vigil at the Church on the Blood. NB: very crowded, NO toilet facilities, take warm things, food thermos flasks, cushions to sit on etc.
EARLY MORNING OF 17 JULY Pilgrimage from the Church on the Blood out to Ganina Yama - about 12km I think but bear in mind no rest or toilet facilities and probably minimal first aid back up.  On arrival at Ganina Yama there is a liturgy at 8 a.m. Bear in mind huge crowds all then trying to get on buses (don't know how many are laid on) back to town etc. Minimal toilet and food facilities. Ganina Yama has a good tourist shop and guides available who speak English.

6 am 17 July liturgy in the 'Execution Chamber' - a recreation of the room in the which the Romanovs were killed - located in basement of the Church on the Blood. NB this is NOT a full reconstruction merely a recreation of the space, with a cross. No decoration.

17 July - big concert of sacred music at Ganina Yama. That evening another all night vigil is held here.
18 July - commemorative events similar to these take place at Alapaevsk.

I do hope this helps.  My advice re Ganina Yama is to ensure you have a driver and interpreter.  Going on the pilgrimage could be a nightmare if you get stuck out there tired, exhausted and hungry with no easy means of getting back into town. Also it is not a very big place so how on earth that many thousands crammed in there I cannot imagine.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: markjhnstn on July 21, 2008, 03:39:59 AM
It sounds like quite an event. Thanks again for the details.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Sarastasia on July 21, 2008, 05:28:55 AM
No problem!!
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Anastasiafan on August 15, 2008, 05:28:02 PM
I always wanted to go,to pay respect to them.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: amartin71718 on June 23, 2009, 10:26:51 PM
It can get like that in Wisconsin, too. Mosquitoes are also abundant.
For example, today's weather in my neck of the woods: 93*F with about 60% humidity and a tropical dew point. Little to no breeze. Ick.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on June 24, 2009, 12:47:23 AM
Looking at the dates on this thread, this topic revives itself once a year, with little or no success. Just pipe-dreams.  Since the interest seems to be within the "teen groupies,"  I would say that you need to "get REAL." Stop deceiving yourselves just to sound "committed."
  Consider that (1) you have an absolutely overly- romanticized and unrealistic concept of the individual planning efforts, documents, insurances, permits to travel etc  needed according to age grouping, etc., airplane changes in one ot two coiuntries with possible over-night stays between airports, temporary versus more stubtantial lodgings, FOOD, etc..  I hope no one thinks that they can do it solo and to go there, certainly not by yourselves alone , but rather go in a group with adult chaperones, dealing with a language and alphabet that  no one understands and a hotels system that has 2 price levels (meaning more expensive for YOU per night) and with potentially no airconditioning. And then there is the transportation.  Russia is HUGE. One of their administrative regions is as big as the entire country of Belgium!  Also the length of time you wish to stay may be cut short if the relatively newly-instituted "Migration Cards " are in effect.  You must use legally RUBLES, not dollars or euros. If you try to illegally exchange dollars for Rubles in some black-market arrangement, you are breaking the law, plus probably getting no-good out-of-date, devalued rubles in exchange (poetic justice)!  So considering traveling by yourself is inordinately silly and OUT.  Will you then go with an organized group (say from the USA to the Urals?  I think there is NO interest in such.)  And I believe that no parent will let you go alone!  You simply cannot imagine the distance that you will have to travel. I am older and thus have traveled alone several times, but not as far as the Urals.  AND THEN, there is NUMBER 2: the cost in USD dollars.  Are you capable of spending possibly a basic , very basic $5,000.+ for round trip travel, etc,  perhaps for no more than 2 weeks per each person, since its the high season and you will be perceived as more affluent.  The answer is NO, I don't believe that any of you have the money.  You will need to wait until you are older, join a Baltic cruise (including St. Petersburg), with a clleared vision of what the trip entails by professionals.  BUT, by that time, the enthuasium for the dead and buried family will hold NO interest for many of you to make such sacrifices time-wise or financially, being occupied with your  own home and children.  Then there are those that say they will study a year in Russia! Self-deception ?  Smoke and mirrors? Will you be willing to give up a comfortable daily home commute to, say, a state-supported school,such as Tulsa State University ? Even if  one of the teens here is even accepted, IMO they will not finish, finding it too demanding and thus having learned a expensive and tough lession. I have been on Russian campii and spoken with students.  They impressed me as MOST willing to achieve, the competition is fierce, something not often encountered her.  I will follow certain students in the forum and their Russian aspiration/dreams, as they post them on here to see who (if any) actually make it to Russia to the Urals as a memory visit and/or to school. I think that our teens are too comfortable to last out either venture.     AP
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Suzanne on June 24, 2009, 06:11:09 PM
Its true that there are many logistical and financial barriers concerning travel to Ekaterinburg but I don't think its necessary to adopt such a harsh tone towards the teenage members of the forum. There's nothing wrong with having big dreams about future travels or studies - you discover as you get older which goals are most realistic for you. For those still interested in travel/study in Russia when they hit university age or beyond, there are doable options out there. Some North American Universities offer exchange terms for Russian language majors at Russian universities. I have a friend who did this as an undergraduate and had a very rewarding experience. For those interested in travel without language fluency, there are guided package tours - even Romanov themed tours - that cover Moscow, St. Petersburg and Ekaterinburg.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on June 24, 2009, 06:25:24 PM
You have exactly reinforced my caveats.  The themes are:  be mature, realistic, research/seek experienced guidance and be prepared intellectually, emotionally, physically and financially.  Unfortunately this is usually not thought through and those dreams literally "hit a brick wall."    Regards,  AP
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: NurseVickie on June 24, 2009, 09:18:11 PM
Alex, Do you always have to burst someone's bubble.  Of course, the young dream big.  Didn't you? You seem to always find something with the younger posters.  By the way, IF you don't like the colored pictures dont' look.  Or if you are so worried about the colors not being authentic then color some that are.  Those who color the pictures here on the Forum do beautiful and very artistic work and should be congratulated not sneered at.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on June 24, 2009, 09:36:30 PM
Hello, "NurseVicky" !  Thanks for your comments.  Obviously my points are understood.  Always good to hear from you!  Regards,  AP
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: NurseVickie on June 24, 2009, 10:47:05 PM
Alex, Thank you for your prompt and gracious reply.  Vickie
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on June 24, 2009, 10:53:39 PM
My pleasure!        AP
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: markjhnstn on June 25, 2009, 02:31:10 AM
It's nice that someone thinks I am young again!
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on June 25, 2009, 03:21:55 AM
But of course you are!     Just think it!   Regards,  AP
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Alice on July 13, 2009, 02:44:15 AM
Looking at the dates on this thread, this topic revives itself once a year, with little or no success. Just pipe-dreams.  Since the interest seems to be within the "teen groupies,"  I would say that you need to "get REAL." Stop deceiving yourselves just to sound "committed."
  Consider that (1) you have an absolutely overly- romanticized and unrealistic concept of the individual planning efforts, documents, insurances, permits to travel etc  needed according to age grouping, etc., airplane changes in one ot two coiuntries with possible over-night stays between airports, temporary versus more stubtantial lodgings, FOOD, etc..  I hope no one thinks that they can do it solo and to go there, certainly not by yourselves alone , but rather go in a group with adult chaperones, dealing with a language and alphabet that  no one understands and a hotels system that has 2 price levels (meaning more expensive for YOU per night) and with potentially no airconditioning. And then there is the transportation.  Russia is HUGE. One of their administrative regions is as big as the entire country of Belgium!  Also the length of time you wish to stay may be cut short if the relatively newly-instituted "Migration Cards " are in effect.  You must use legally RUBLES, not dollars or euros. If you try to illegally exchange dollars for Rubles in some black-market arrangement, you are breaking the law, plus probably getting no-good out-of-date, devalued rubles in exchange (poetic justice)!  So considering traveling by yourself is inordinately silly and OUT.  Will you then go with an organized group (say from the USA to the Urals?  I think there is NO interest in such.)  And I believe that no parent will let you go alone!  You simply cannot imagine the distance that you will have to travel. I am older and thus have traveled alone several times, but not as far as the Urals.  AND THEN, there is NUMBER 2: the cost in USD dollars.  Are you capable of spending possibly a basic , very basic $5,000.+ for round trip travel, etc,  perhaps for no more than 2 weeks per each person, since its the high season and you will be perceived as more affluent.  The answer is NO, I don't believe that any of you have the money.  You will need to wait until you are older, join a Baltic cruise (including St. Petersburg), with a clleared vision of what the trip entails by professionals.  BUT, by that time, the enthuasium for the dead and buried family will hold NO interest for many of you to make such sacrifices time-wise or financially, being occupied with your  own home and children.  Then there are those that say they will study a year in Russia! Self-deception ?  Smoke and mirrors? Will you be willing to give up a comfortable daily home commute to, say, a state-supported school,such as Tulsa State University ? Even if  one of the teens here is even accepted, IMO they will not finish, finding it too demanding and thus having learned a expensive and tough lession. I have been on Russian campii and spoken with students.  They impressed me as MOST willing to achieve, the competition is fierce, something not often encountered her.  I will follow certain students in the forum and their Russian aspiration/dreams, as they post them on here to see who (if any) actually make it to Russia to the Urals as a memory visit and/or to school. I think that our teens are too comfortable to last out either venture.     AP

This post is pompous and presumptuous, almost to the point of hilarity. You don't know anything about the people that you're talking about, except that they're aged 13 - 19!

(And no, I'm not one of them).

Love,

Paragraphs are a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on July 13, 2009, 11:29:50 AM
Hello, Alice!  Thank you for your observations; obviously my points were made and understood. (Truth can sometimes be quite stark, when seen without rose-colored glasses. )  People are absolutely entitled to their points of view, and now you have made yours!  I presume that you have traveled to Russia?   Best regards,  AP
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Alice on July 13, 2009, 06:06:48 PM
Hello, Alice!  Thank you for your observations; obviously my points were made and understood.

Yes, obviously.

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(Truth can sometimes be quite stark, when seen without rose-colored glasses. )

I wholeheartedly agree.

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 People are absolutely entitled to their points of view, and now you have made yours!

Again, you state the obvious. How boring.

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I presume that you have traveled to Russia?   Best regards,  AP

I haven't, and don't see how that is relevant to your patronisation of the teenagers on this board. Or perhaps your rant also extends to 20-somethings (which would include me)?

Either way, if you are implying that I am naive about overseas travel, you're incorrect. I've lived overseas. Cheers!
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on July 13, 2009, 07:34:45 PM
Indeed? The UK, I should think.  And " Cheers"  to you as well !    Regards,  AP.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Alice on July 13, 2009, 08:31:41 PM
Indeed? The UK, I should think.  And " Cheers"  to you as well !    Regards,  AP.

No, actually. Japan.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Sarushka on July 13, 2009, 09:39:23 PM
Starting to stray a bit off-topic here, folks.

If you take issue with the tone of aleksandr pavlovich's post, please address your concerns directly to him or a moderator via a private message.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Olga Maria on July 17, 2009, 01:12:09 AM
Today is the 92nd death anniversary of the NAOTMAA. I extend condolences to all Romanovians around the world.


Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: nena on July 17, 2009, 04:49:19 AM
Isn't it the 91st one?
 
I have been looking throughout Russian webs, I noticed many Church services (moleben, Krstnii Hod) are processing all around the Russia -- Kostroma, Ekaterinburg, and so on. May them rest in peace. It was night when 'the Revolution covered into red color itself'.  :-(
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: RealAnastasia on July 17, 2009, 05:40:53 PM
Good bless them!

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Olga Maria on July 17, 2009, 05:47:13 PM
Isn't it the 91st one?
 
I have been looking throughout Russian webs, I noticed many Church services (moleben, Krstnii Hod) are processing all around the Russia -- Kostroma, Ekaterinburg, and so on. May them rest in peace. It was night when 'the Revolution covered into red color itself'.  :-(

Yap, itís the 91st..
Thanks for the correction. I also thank you for that info above.   

Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Ena on July 17, 2009, 09:35:57 PM
Do keep dreaming teenagers!

Dreaming plants a seed which only grows and nurtures with time.  I know because I was a teenager once.  I used to dream of visiting St. Petersburg and soaking up all the history.  Last year, I finally got to go!  After all these years, the interest remained inside of me.  Guess what?  It didnít cost me $5000.  My ticket was $752 round trip and that was only because I wanted a specific open-jaw itinerary (JFK>HEL>TLL>LED>DME>EWR).  Otherwise, right now, Iím seeing round trip fares from NYC to Moscow for under $450 in September (kayak.com).  I remember back in June they were under $400! That was because several airlines were launching their Moscow routes and dropping fares to compete with each other, but moral of the story is that deals can definitely be found.  Iím talking NYC specifically, but you get the idea.

All this talk about hassles with a migration card is silly.  Itís the card youíre given when you enter Russia.  You just fill out your personal information and keep it for your entire journey.  Itís in both English and Cyrillic.  You turn it over to the officials when you leave the country.  No big deal.  A letter of invitation is easy to get, and the only wait will be for your visa.  That has to be done through a service, and itís more bothersome than frightening.  Iím lucky, I did it all on my own and got my visa back in less than a week. This was one week before they changed the rules and started making people go through the service.  (http://www.waytorussia.net/RussianVisa/Info.html).  Make sure to check the Russian consulate in your area and follow all their rules. 

For accommodations, you can stay in hostels.  I did and they were super cheap and I met tons of friendly people (http://www.hostelworld.com/countries/russiahostels.html).

In Russia, especially in the hostels, you will meet many young people heading to their journey on the Trans-Siberian railway.  Trains in Russia are cheap and safe.  I took one from St. Petersburg to Moscow and it was great.  Almost all the travelers I met didnít know any Russian and did just fine.  I managed with just knowing the Cyrillic alphabet (very important!) and a few words.  Yes, you can do it alone. I know because I most certainly did and I met tons of others who were by themselves too!!!  No group tours for me, thank you very much. I did it all independently.  I donít recommend this to a teenager. Iím talking about when youíre a bit older.   

As for money, this idea that you will be resorting to sneaky black market funds is preposterous! There are major banks all over and you can complete all cash machine transactions in English!! Once you arrive in Russia, at the airport, just head for the ATM and get your rubles.  If youíre a student, everything will be discounted; the Hermitage is free for students.  There is a two-tier system at Russian tourist sites, but it's not done in a sneaky way.  They tell you outright that Russians pay less.  All prices at major tourist sites will be in English and will spell out the difference in prices - one price for Russians, the other for tourists.  Again, if you're a student, you will pay much less for entrance fees. 

I could go on an on, but my travel experience speaks for itself. You just need to research, jump on airline deals, and make sure your visa and registration is in order.   If you want someplace to start, I suggest http://www.waytorussia.net.  This will help you with the basics.  From there, you can check out travel guides and search the Internet.  By the way, Yekaterinburg is about a dayís train travel from Moscow. The train is an experience you shouldnít pass up.     

Someday, when you are a little older, you will visit Russia, and youíll have a laugh at the people who passed off incorrect information so it would look like it couldnít happen!!
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Ena on July 17, 2009, 09:42:24 PM
I thought of traveling to Yekaterinburg this year, but it might be Kiev instead. Still, I don't think any visit in July will happen as it conflicts with work.  Besides, I would rather have a solemn visit, away from any anniversary.  But, I understand how special it would be to be surrounded by others on such a day. 
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on July 17, 2009, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from Reply #  43  by " Ena" : " I did it all independently. I don't recommend this to a teenager.  I'm talking about when you are a bit older."    Yes, "Ena,"  I thoroughly agree; my point exactly!  Your perspective as a mature, mobile, fiscally-experienced, and  " a bit older " individual is appreciated.  Regards.  AP.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Tsarfan on February 06, 2013, 08:14:28 AM
Okay, I've been waiting, like, f-o-r-e-v-e-r for someone to notice, but I can't stand it any longer.

If you go to Ekaterinburg on July 17/18 for the anniversary of the Romanov massacre you will be a day late.

They were killed during the night of July 16/17.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: edubs31 on February 06, 2013, 10:36:43 AM
It's important to get there on the 16th if for no other reason than you don't want to miss the fourth annual 'Crawling Babies Championship' :-)

http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/06/18/crawling_babies_championship_15899.html

In all seriousness though I would love to pay my respects on the anniversary. Perhaps I'll aim high and try to make it there in 2018. If I'm going to Yekaterinburg in the first place I want to do it right. Any trip to Russia for me will have to include Moscow and St. Petersburg since I have neither the time nor the $$ to be a frequent visitor.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Tsarfan on February 06, 2013, 02:47:05 PM
http://rbth.ru/articles/2012/06/18/crawling_babies_championship_15899.html

Another case of a bad translation into English.  Those are actually Russian adults trying to get to the vytrezvitel (government-run sobering-up room).

I'd recommend a visit in 2017 instead of 2018.  Avoid the rush.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: xwhiterussia on February 06, 2013, 07:19:28 PM
I would go to Russia in a heartbeat, but I will lay out for 2017 in all truth. I would visit Ganina Yama, as beautiful lilies bloom there every year for the anniversary of them along with seeing the seven chapels.
Title: Re: Anyone going to Ekaterinburg for the 17/18th July?
Post by: Romafan96 on February 18, 2013, 11:24:43 AM
I've looked up such an expedition with a Russian tour company, and the owner advised me that going around this time may be difficult, particularly, if one wants to see the famous Ganina Yama.