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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Tatiana Nicholaievna => Topic started by: Multiverse on January 10, 2009, 08:22:48 PM

Title: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Multiverse on January 10, 2009, 08:22:48 PM
Tatiana's favorite perfume was Coty Jasmin de Corse. Coty introduced this perfume in 1906.

I did a Google search under the subject "coty jasmin de corse" because I wanted to see if I could find someplace where I could buy a small sample, I wanted to know what Tatiana's favorite perfume smelled like. My search led me to a website I think it was called The Perfumed Court. They offer small samples of many different perfumes to allow people to try just a very small sample. So for $29.95 (US) including shipping I bought a 1ml vglass vial of Coty Jasmin de Corse.

It came across to me as very sweet, heavy, and lingering. A very intriguing scent.

I didn't check to see if any of the perfumes the other three Grand Duchesses like are still available, but Tatiana's still is.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: RealAnastasia on January 10, 2009, 09:09:29 PM
I'm happy to hear it! I always loved all scents, with flower smells. I'm the kind of person who likes realli romatic parfums. Different kind of Jasmin, Rose and other flower scents are created by myself with essential oyls and alcool in my own house. I must be one of the few persons who makes her own parfums! LOL. I don't like modern scents!

I'm very happy that Tatiana's favorite scents is still around and available. I think I must try it if possible.

RealAnastasia
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Olga Maria on January 11, 2009, 03:16:14 AM
But it costs so expensive (in Philippine peso about P1363)!
How does it smell like, multiverse (what flower flower or fruit)?
We are so unlucky here to have no jasmines and lilacs (our climate's tropical and those can't grow well).
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Gabriella on January 11, 2009, 08:30:20 AM
Thanks for posting then link, Multiverse.

It's interesting that samples of old perfumes which are out of sale where still available.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Leyla on January 11, 2009, 06:20:32 PM

How does it smell like, multiverse (what flower flower or fruit)?


The flower is Jasmines.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: imperial angel on January 12, 2009, 12:35:27 AM
I had read on the forum the scent was still available. But I hadn't heard a firsthand account of it. It would be interesting to see start a thread like this on all the girl's favorite perfumes, if still available.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: imperial angel on January 12, 2009, 01:24:15 AM
I did a little more research. Turns out the Perfume Court once had Violette, Anastasia's favorite scent, but it has been discontinued. I cou;dn't find it anywhere else either.I couldn't find any mention of Olga's favorite scent, Rose The' anywhere.. not even what year it came out. I have often wondered if the popular very early ( perhaps the earliest of Coty perfumes) La Rose, was Olga's favorite scent, as I cannot find mention of Rose The' ANYWHERE. But, La Rose is not the same thing as Rose The', although I wish it were as a bottle of La Rose by Coty can be found at the Perfume Court for only $ 10. Rose The' must be very rare. Lilas was Marie's favorite scent, but I couldn't find it anywhere either.I did find a interesting blog post that talks about what people have said Lilas smelled like, and offers a person's thoughts on it. I will give the url- hope the link works it's http://1000fragrances.blogspot.com/2008/03/le-lilas-poupre-coty-html. I highly recomend reading it, especially if Marie is your favorite Grand Duchess. She's my favorite and until today, I had something in common with her I never realized ( not sure why, as I've known that was her favorite perfume for years). She liked this perfume best, the scent of lilacs. Lilacs are my favorite scent and flower of all time. I would thus really like to smell Lilas out of not only historical interest, but also because I would love it. On another note, I did find people were selling empty vintage bottles of Lilas online. I bet that's the case with Violette and Rose The' too. That might be the only way to get close to these lost scents- an empty vintage bottle might have some very vague remnants of the smell it once contained. I didn't check the prices or rarity of these empty vintage perfume bottles though. Update: I looked again- could only find empty Lilas bottles. There were actually two Lilas's Lilas Pourpre, 1911, as mentioned above, and Lilas Blanc- not sure of what year, think it could have been 1910. Marie's favorite could have been either one.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: imperial angel on January 12, 2009, 01:59:07 AM
I did a little more research. Turns out the Perfume Court once had Violette, Anastasia's favorite scent, but it has been discontinued. I cou;dn't find it anywhere else either.I couldn't find any mention of Olga's favorite scent, Rose The' anywhere.. not even what year it came out. I have often wondered if the popular very early ( perhaps the earliest of Coty perfumes) La Rose, was Olga's favorite scent, as I cannot find mention of Rose The' ANYWHERE. But, La Rose is not the same thing as Rose The', although I wish it were as a bottle of La Rose by Coty can be found at the Perfume Court for only $ 10. Rose The' must be very rare. Lilas was Marie's favorite scent, but I couldn't find it anywhere either.I did find a interesting blog post that talks about what people have said Lilas smelled like, and offers a person's thoughts on it. I will give the url- hope the link works it's http://1000fragrances.blogspot.com/2008/03/le-lilas-poupre-coty-html. I highly recomend reading it, especially if Marie is your favorite Grand Duchess. She's my favorite and until today, I had something in common with her I never realized ( not sure why, as I've known that was her favorite perfume for years). She liked this perfume best, the scent of lilacs. Lilacs are my favorite scent and flower of all time. I would thus really like to smell Lilas out of not only historical interest, but also because I would love it. On another note, I did find people were selling empty vintage bottles of Lilas online. I bet that's the case with Violette and Rose The' too. That might be the only way to get close to these lost scents- an empty vintage bottle might have some very vague remnants of the smell it once contained. I didn't check the prices or rarity of these empty vintage perfume bottles though. Update: I looked again- could only find empty Lilas bottles. There were actually two Lilas's Lilas Pourpre, as mentioned above, and Lilas Blanc. Marie's favorite could have been either one, but I couldn't find either today. The post above discusses the 1914 scent, Lilas Pourpre- Lilas Blanc was 1910.So Lilas Pourpre may not have been Marie's favorite scent..
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 12, 2009, 02:16:22 AM
Unfortunatelly the link doesn´t work for me. But On Tatiana´s fanlisting here http://diesgaudii.genvid.com/governess/index.html is a link to the perfume she actually used: http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3047/dffdfdfvh4.png
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Olga Maria on January 12, 2009, 04:38:07 AM
Has anybody smelled here Arabian jasmines? That's the only available 'jasmine' I know here in my country.
Do they smell the same?
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 12, 2009, 05:21:18 AM
Í´m not sure... probably not same but similar. I love scent of jasmine..... though lilac is probably my favourite :)
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Olga Maria on January 12, 2009, 05:58:01 AM
I'm very curious of how lilacs smell. Sad.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 12, 2009, 06:01:32 AM
It´s quite sweet and if you overdo it it can be pretty heavy. But it´s not that annoygin sweetness, it just circles around you.. it is a bit hard to explain with words how something smells.... :)
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Sarushka on January 12, 2009, 08:26:13 AM
Clockworkgirl found this image of Coty's Jasmin de Corse perfume in 2007:

(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3047/dffdfdfvh4.png)
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: mitia on January 12, 2009, 11:01:00 AM
The most famous of all Coty perfumes was L ' AIMANT in the 192s-30s and it was very popular in all social classes in those days. The French Perfumes House of Coty as Tatiana used to know it, no longer exists, it is now a very large company with all sort of different brands and branches, nothing to do at all, except the name of the company, with the original François Coty Perfumes House of the early 1900s.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Olga Maria on January 13, 2009, 08:47:24 AM
Thank You Sarushka. So that's how it looks like. It takes too long  to load the page where it can be found. Thank God you're here.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Olga Maria on April 30, 2009, 12:15:17 PM
url- hope the link works it's http://1000fragrances.blogspot.com/2008/03/le-lilas-poupre-coty-html.


There have been so many posts in the blog and I can't find which article it is. May you please post the article? thank you
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: MarshallHowell on May 01, 2010, 02:41:47 PM
In Massie's book, it says that the girls began taking warm baths at night with perfumed bath water. Is this implying that they did not spray the perfume on themselves but in their bath water? How much was used for one bathe?
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Dust_of_History on May 01, 2010, 06:54:58 PM
I think what Massie meant was that they used perfumed bath essences but they also used perfumes on themselves. ;-) I don't think they used much essence for their bath.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on October 29, 2010, 11:21:39 AM
Oh, people put drops of essential oils and perfumes in baths all the time. (at least where I live, and by people who are interested in that sort of thing, aromatherapy etc.) I always thought of it as being that they would have maybe two or three drops of their favorite scent in the bathwater and that it would scent their skin.  ???
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Holly on March 24, 2011, 05:19:42 PM
I was just reading something on Coty and I think something I came across could solve the issue with Olga's perfume.

There IS no Coty perfume titled Rose Thé. However, Coty states Olga's preference for their La Rose (Jacqueminot). Considering Lili Dehn was the only source for the information on OTMA's favorite perfumes and it was written originally in French, it's quite possible that "Rose Thé" was merely an error in translation.

La Rose Jacqueminot emerged about the same time as Jasmin de Corse.

It's the scent of roses and warm spice.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on March 25, 2011, 06:32:38 PM
Interesting...I always wondered about "Rose The", it always sounded sort of wierd.
Roses and warm spice...sounds lovely...

P.S. a sort of Romanov sighting...in the movie "Ballet Shoes", the character of Theo Dane has this perfume called "Coty Chypre" (sp?). I just recently realized the Romanov connection, (actually there's another reference to them in that film, 'Madame Fidolia' the ballet teacher was supposedly a favorite of the Tsar.) I can't believe I didn't notice the Coty connection until lately...but anyways, I wonder if it was a real Coty scent. Another thing-- why is it "Lilas" instead of "Lilac"? Is lilas French for lilac? And what is the meaning of "de Corse" and "Jaquemont"?
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Robert_Hall on March 25, 2011, 07:43:12 PM
Coty Cyphre was a  scent, but it was not produced until 1917. Cyphre means Cypress.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on March 25, 2011, 08:29:35 PM
Coty Cyphre was a  scent, but it was not produced until 1917. Cyphre means Cypress.

No, cypress is cyprès in French. Cyphre doesn't mean anything. It was Chypre, which means Cyprus.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Holly on March 25, 2011, 08:39:32 PM
Chypre is indeed French for cyprus and was a term first used by Coty after visiting Cyprus island and experiencing the many scents. It's now more of a type of perfume which features citrus and floral notes over dark, earthy ones.

Rose The would sound strange, but it was actually Rose Thé which is tea rose.

Lilas is French for lilac and 'de corse' refers to Corsica: Coty's place of birth. Jacqueminot is a rose named after General Jacqueminot, of France

Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: RealAnastasia on March 26, 2011, 12:06:32 AM
Here in Argentina we calls "Rosa Té" (Tea rose, indeed)   a kind of  a rose that is cream colored. I suppose the scent "Rose Thé" was referring to the smell of this kind of flower.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: Holly on March 26, 2011, 10:16:52 AM
Here in Argentina we calls "Rosa Té" (Tea rose, indeed)   a kind of  a rose that is cream colored. I suppose the scent "Rose Thé" was referring to the smell of this kind of flower.

Yes, so either it was a perfume by a different perfumer or a mistranslation. Coty had no perfume titled Rose Thé.
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: TrulyTatianochka on March 13, 2018, 05:55:44 PM
The coty perfume originals and not remakes smell very nice but very strong! There is a reason the drops were put into bath water. I own JDC and my friends owns La Rose Jacqueminot
Title: Re: Coty Jasmin de Corse
Post by: TimM on July 02, 2019, 12:38:55 AM
Interesting.