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Title: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Kimberly on April 28, 2009, 02:06:23 AM
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Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Royal Bulgaria on April 28, 2009, 03:40:49 AM
I will post here the link too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQuyL2sugB4
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Elisabeth on May 09, 2009, 07:36:53 PM
What I want to know is, when is Henry VIII/Jonathan Rhys-Myers going to get fat? Because we all know from the testimony of his portraits that Henry VIII, if he was not already rather pudgy by the time of his marriage to Anne Boleyn, and probably even before that, had grown quite hefty by the time of his marriage to Jane Seymour, as a result of his disastrous fall from his horse in January 1536, which permanently injured one of his legs and prevented him from engaging in proper exercise (such as hunting) for the rest of his life. The same leg eventually developed ulcers, caused him great pain, and probably hastened his death a mere 11 years later, in January 1547, by which time he was demonstrably obese.

What I can't stand about the Showtime series about Henry (which we in our household call The Shmooders) is its patent dishonesty. It does not by any stretch of the imagination give a fair or accurate portrait of Henry VIII, either physically or temperamentally, or much more importantly, in terms of character. Let's face it, the man was a megalomaniac and a monster. He was not sexy by the year 1536, nor was he even remotely empathetic or sympathetic. Showtime can try to create as many "artistic" messages as it wants to, by means of what it perceives to be "sexy" actors and costumes and settings. But the real core of historical drama is lacking, because history itself is lacking in this series. All we have is empty glitz and glamour, as interpreted by demonstrably inferior producers, directors, and screenwriters. I don't care how many dubious awards The Shmooders wins, in my opinion it remains absolute, utter BS.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Vecchiolarry on May 09, 2009, 08:53:28 PM
Dear Elisabeth,

Utter BS is correct!!!  In fact, pure BS is all it is and ever will be.....
I gave up on any historic accuracy when Margaret went off to Portugal and killed the King - - huh???

As to your first question:  "When is he going to get fat?" .... Probably never!!
Jonathan Rhys-Myers was on America's "Live with Regis & Kelly" last week and they showed a clip of him presenting Anne of Cleves to Mary & Elizabeth.  He was slim and young and looked the same as Episode 1 - 3 years ago....  He only has 7 more years to go, so he probably will die slim & trim & young & verile!!!

Larry
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: ilyala on May 10, 2009, 06:53:18 AM
hm, you think they're gonna go on with the series up to elizabeth?

it would be nice to hear their explanation to jane grey, since "margaret" didn't have any children in this movie.

not to mention the queen of scots. wasn't she engaged to edward? how are they gonna write that in the show?
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: boleynfan on May 10, 2009, 12:47:13 PM
Dear Elisabeth,

Utter BS is correct!!!  In fact, pure BS is all it is and ever will be.....
I gave up on any historic accuracy when Margaret went off to Portugal and killed the King - - huh???

As to your first question:  "When is he going to get fat?" .... Probably never!!
Jonathan Rhys-Myers was on America's "Live with Regis & Kelly" last week and they showed a clip of him presenting Anne of Cleves to Mary & Elizabeth.  He was slim and young and looked the same as Episode 1 - 3 years ago....  He only has 7 more years to go, so he probably will die slim & trim & young & verile!!!

Larry


I didn't make it as far as you did.  I knew we were in for dreck when they killed the "King's Uncle", the ambassador, as the show opened.  The only uncles he could have had would have been the Princes in the Tower, who would have been kings of England before him.

But I am guilty of enjoying it for the eye candy factor.  Fit and trim Henry and Charles and more fun to look at, at least.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Vecchiolarry on May 10, 2009, 05:00:41 PM
Yes, Boleynfan,

I'd forgotten about the beginning and the killing of the uncle.  I did wonder who that was, but then not being that up on all those Plantagenets, I let it slip until I could research it all.  But forgot!!!

I do watch it for the sheer entertainment and stupidity of it, like you.
And, I must say, I thought Catherine of Aragon was handled correctly and the actress was superb playing her...  But now, it's goodbye Aragon and onward to Howard and Parr!!!

Larry
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Suzanne on May 11, 2009, 04:50:11 PM
My view was seeing as Showtime has a young and slender Henry to work with, they should have started the series at the beginning of his reign with his marriage to Catherine of Aragon (I'm sure they would have cast Penelope Cruz as young Catherine!) If they had a first season covering Henry's first marriage, beginning with the loving partnership and then gradually growing apart with the miscarriages and deaths of their babies, Catherine's personal sadness at the divorce (which could have been the subject of the second season, followed by a third season about Anne Boleyn's reign), would have been more believable. In the Showtime series, Henry is unpleasant to Catherine from the first episode, which isn't realistic as they did begin their marriage happily and he did initially accept political advice from her.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Vecchiolarry on May 12, 2009, 08:53:05 PM
Hi,

I agree that the young Henry & Catherine should have been part of this .  It would have made a more balanced portrait of Henry.
But then, when there is such blatant erroneous scenarios (such as the Margaret debacle), then we cannot expect too much more than what we're getting.

Just thank the thespian gods that it isn't taking place in 2702 on the planet Zebulon.  That seems to be where most entertainment today is focussed!!!  Can you say 'Star Trek'......

Larry
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Imperial_Grounds on June 29, 2009, 08:39:20 AM
I am now watching the series, finally, I still do not like it for the way it shows history, but it shows a great dramatic series. Though I must say I prefer 'Henry VII and his Six Wive's from the BBC because it is much more correct to history, and gives each of his wives the chance to be developed in their character and shows us what they were. Still I must say I adore the costumes, settings and music used in this series.

And, I have now done my first video using footage of the series.

So, here it is - and Elly, this is the little present I mentioned so I hope you'll like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM5Kxo-UXlM
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Royal Bulgaria on June 29, 2009, 08:49:46 AM
Thank you very much is amazing !
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Imperial_Grounds on June 29, 2009, 09:01:47 AM
Welcome. You told me quite a few times to watch the series, so now I am. I love how Jane Seymour is portrayed - yet sad she had so little airtime.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Royal Bulgaria on July 23, 2009, 04:04:11 AM
Jane Seymour-Ophelia Tribute done by me....Finally proud that i finished it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yld3aO_LSe4
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: ilyala on July 26, 2009, 02:37:52 AM
i was thoroughly amused to see the episodes where henry is looking for a wife and finds out that marie of guise is marrying... his nephew, james of scotland! for crap's sake, what nephew? according to the show, henry had one sister (margaret) who married charles brandon... i'm sure watchers who are not familiar with the tudor history should be confused about that. sad part is they probably aren't
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Vecchiolarry on July 26, 2009, 12:41:07 PM
Hi Ilyala,

Crap indeed!!!  That whole Margaret scenario still has me reeling & boondogaled!!!
First - she's even around in England during all this Catherine of Aragon/Anne Boleyn story.
Second - she's sent off to Portugal to marry a decrepate old king.
Third - she murders the old bugger.
Fourth - she marries Charles Brandon.
Fifth - she dies right after that.

And, now you tell me (I haven't seen Part III yet) that she somehow is responsible for James V .....  How did they get it right that she did give birth to JV but went south (Portugal) to do it???!!!
Those Tudors sure managed some great history, didn't they?

Larry
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Margot on April 13, 2010, 06:39:28 PM
I have just seen the first episode of the new series! I always knew that the producers would never allow Jonny Rhys -Meyers to done a fat suit and latex fat face make up! It was all too obvious! But a tiny bit of me hoped against hoped! I can not believe Henry is still being portrayed as an impossibly gorgeous, smolderingly yummy love god (You may be able to tell that I am rather smitten with Jonny!) when Henry was in fact a grossly overweight, suspiciously syphilitic man of forty nine 1540 when the new Series Four opens!

Here is Holbein's state portrait painted at the time of the opening of the new series! Please remember that the portrait is no doubt flattering to it's august sitter!

http://www.hans-holbein.org/Portrait-of-Henry-VIII-1540.html

I loathe this show! I tried very hard to overlook some of the more ludicrous distortions such as the ridiculous idea of melding Mary and Margaret and her marrying and murdering the King of Portugal! Which really really infuriated me and proved that this disney-fied miniseries does not even deserve the name of Historical drama IMHO! I do not think I will be able to endure being subjected to anymore of this fictitious rendering of Henry VIII! Considering he is the constant throughout this series I am at a loss that Henry appears ageless! This mini series is almost cartoonish in its vacuous need to choose not to allow the main character to be physically portrayed as he was in reality rather than as a sop to weight watchers and the concept that everyone on television has to be gorgeous otherwise no one will want to watch!

 I loathe and despise The Tudors and more especially the producers and the Director for allowing this travesty to be made! It will inevitable pollute and distort the younger generation's ideas of Henry! Personally I think this series should have been called The Tudors - Henry VIII does Dorian Gray! There that's my little soap box rant over!
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on April 13, 2010, 07:45:56 PM
Hehe, that's a very eloquent rant!

I guess its only redeeming feature is that it does (or did, in those episodes when Rhys Meyer really corresponded to the young Henry) highlight how ridiculous young (by our modern standards) many powerful people in pre-modern times like the Tudor era were. Especially those who had inherited their power. It's as if David Beckham had not just great economical and cultural power, but also real political clout as a cabinet minister! Or Victoria Beckham was the leader of a major political party! No wonder there were even more silly wars and religious persecutions back then with all those rash, cocky, prejudiced, not yet very wise hotheads running the country!

I think it also does an admirable job of depicting how court life was not at all about philosphical questions of life, death, pride, love and honour as you might think from one of Shakespeare's historical dramas, but a really mafia-like vying for power, influence and money. Again: Vain celebritydom meets the Labour party and the corporate world!
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Margot on April 13, 2010, 08:18:23 PM
I see you point about the question of inheriting power at eighteen and the pros and cons of such a system FP, but from what I remember of my History classes at Prep school and before the government of day decided to turn the teaching of History upside down and make it 'earnest' and self consciously 'relevant' with a Social economic emphasis on the period 1702 to 1945, in the mid eighties, we most certainly did learn that the courts of the Tudor Monarchs were no Shakespearean play ground but more a battle ground of intrigue and ambition! In this, The Tudors does I conceded portray the court of Henry as it probably was! Actually I think from 1540 onwards it was probably the most dangerous place to be employed in the whole of Western Europe! Talk about occupational hazards!

Nevertheless,  I still cannot abide the portrayal of Henry as is! It is utterly contemptible IMHO and demonstrates that the producers feel that the audience evidently would not like to see Henry as he really appeared, as it would be too unpalatable and spoil the appeal of the series! I wish people would boycott this show just to show that we are not that vacuous and unable to sit through 'good' television with characters that are not chocolate boxy photogenic good looking! And to think the producers felt that an audience would not be able to cope with two characters called Mary, hence the morphing of Margaret and Mary into Margaret who married Charles Brandon after murdering her old first husband the King of Portugal! The producers must have thought the audience would have found two Marys too taxing on their gnat like attention spans and intelligence! Pffffft! IMHO! I guess they have shot themselves in the foot though if they are really going to make this into a Tudors series all the way to 1603! How will they explain the cousinship between Mary Queen of Scots and Elizabeth I if they do! Now that would take some chicanery and artistic license to achieve! Anyway enough as my eye is beginning to twitch which means I might need a valium soon if I do not stop!

 
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on April 13, 2010, 08:30:50 PM
And to think the producers felt that an audience would not be able to cope with two characters called Mary, hence the morphing of Margaret and Mary into Margaret who married Charles Brandon after murdering her old first husband the King of Portugal! The producers must have thought the audience would have found two Marys too taxing on their gnat like attention spans and intelligence! Pffffft!

I agree, it's strange. Hercule Poirot is still popular (at least in here in Norway) and his mysteries are way more complicated. And I guess that goes for many crime/detective/forensic shows and even soaps. Heck, even "Desperate Housewives" leaves me dumbfounded and yearning for a genealogy chart sometimes!
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Margot on April 13, 2010, 09:45:46 PM
I am so glad you understand my point FP! I also found the morphing of Louis XII into the King of Portugal absurd too! I suppose the producers also decided that it's target audience simply wouldn't be able to comprehend or cope with the idea of two Kings of France in this series! Grrrrrr! It is so irritating!
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Kimberly on April 14, 2010, 01:39:06 AM
It always reminds me of the movie "The Madness of King George"- the title being different to that of Alan Bennett's original play ("The Madness of George III") - because it was felt that American audiences might think it was a sequel !!! Cannot watch the Tudors......would put my foot through the telly.
 Saying that though, that it has "turned on " a couple of my mates to the joys of history, Tudor period in particular, all because they could not believe that some bloke would chop off his queens head. They thought THAT was fiction.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: ilyala on April 14, 2010, 07:57:17 AM
If they are going to go up to 1603, my fear is that they will just insert Mary Queen of Scots like they've inserted James King of Scotland (mentioned in the scene where Henry was looking for his wife and "bumped" into Mary of Guise) - as "Elizabeth's Cousin" (Like James was Henry's "Nephew") without any other reference. And my fear is that the audiences that will not know the truth (for whom the whole Margaret/Mary debacle was made) will not even stop to wonder "Wait... what nephew? What cousin?"
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Svetabel on August 03, 2010, 12:51:47 AM
Never posted at the Tudor section but since I  watched finally till the end the new and last series I have something to say. I always love the European history, England and France are my special faves. I sat to watch the Tudors just to remind myself my teen's curiosity about that maniac Henry...What can I say? Jonathan is too cute to play that maniac)))

The costumes are best. The actors are worse. The screenplay is awful. The most disturbing personage for me is Charles Suffolk aka Henry Cavill...I was beginning to yawn when he appeared at the screen. Absolutely bleak personality he plays, and in real life Suffolk was much more interesting person I believe.

The actress whom I really liked was Natalie Dormer as Anne Boleyn, other actresses who played Anne in many movies are not so interesting.

All in all, the series are dissapointing in historical accuracy but costumes...wow, great!
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on August 09, 2010, 07:23:23 PM
I agree, Svetabel, costumes are great.

Natalie Dormer did a great job as Anne Boleyn. But I also admired the work of Joss Stone as Anne of Cleves. She really portrayed a scared girl very well. I always imagined Anne of Cleves as a scared girl in a strange land, afraid of her husband's mood.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: RedRedWine on August 11, 2010, 09:44:25 AM
I really loved Jolie Richardson as Catherine Parr, who is my favourite wife. I thought she made her really sympathetic and interesting, and I liked that because I was afraid they were going to shunt her aside (as often happens.) But, they did a lot with that character in her 4 episodes.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Royal Bulgaria on August 11, 2010, 04:38:50 PM
There is nothing i can say against the show :)) For me costumes and everything was perfect, just i did not liked Joss Stone maybe because i saw her before in Nip/Tuck and i just could not imagine her in this role.. and i was right for myself...Catherine Howard was portrated very interesting ... Still i had no idea that in real life she was such spoilt young girl.

And Natalie's performance on Anne,was amazing.Bravo to her :)
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on August 11, 2010, 05:08:47 PM
Oh, I agree about Catherine Howard (Tamzin Merchant). It's hard to believe she's older than Sarah Bolger (Mary Tudor), who also acts gracefully.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: TroubleTwin2 on August 12, 2010, 12:24:43 PM
I haven't seen the whole series, but what I did see I enjoyed. Its a great show in my opinion. I only watched the entier first season and parts of the second. Bassically only the Anne Boleyn parts.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Vecchiolarry on August 13, 2010, 10:09:49 PM
Hi,

Here in Canada, we are way behind in this series...  We are just at the timeline where Jane Seymour announces that she is pregnant...
In the episode we see the Countess of Salisbury presented to the King;  and he enquires about her son, Reginald.
Realizing just who this was and her subsequent fate, I suddenly found myself crying out to the TV - "Run, Margaret, run!!".....

Larry
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on August 13, 2010, 10:16:37 PM
Oh, I cried on Margareth's death :(
Cried on Anne Boleyn's execution too, but not on Jane's death... got sad, but didn't cry ^^
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: TroubleTwin2 on August 13, 2010, 10:48:06 PM
I didn't cry during Anne's but it was still very emotional and I was also very sad. I like how they did it, especially with the birds and the flashback thing. I don't like Jane so I don't think I would get really all that sad at all.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on August 13, 2010, 11:08:24 PM
I think Catherine of Aragón's death was sad, specially that scene she "dreams" with Mary...
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: TroubleTwin2 on August 13, 2010, 11:11:13 PM
I didn't see her's, I'll have to see if I can find it on YouTube. *Warning this next part may be spoilers for some people if you haven't seen the 4th season* I liked how when Henry was getting close to death or whatever and he started seeing his dead wives. My favorite part of it was, no suprise here, but Anne.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: RedRedWine on August 15, 2010, 03:59:44 AM
I cried when Katherine died. I didn't cry when Anne died, but I absolutely bawled my eyes out when Jane died. I did like the character, but it was more the way it was done that made it sad.

I also cried in the final episode, when Charles Brandon died until the end. I really liked the cut of Henry saying to him 'you will be healed' and to his death. I thought the final scenes were very emotionally evocative - the way they didn't actually show Henry's death but just flashed a title card over the painting. It made it all the more nostalgic and sad.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: TroubleTwin2 on August 15, 2010, 11:51:15 AM
I found Katherine's death on YouTube, I didn't cry (it takes allot for me to cry) , but it was still very emotional especially the part with Henry sitting on the ground reading the letter.   It was weird 'cause the way Henry was sitting, was the same way I was sitting on my couch.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Vecchiolarry on September 16, 2010, 08:26:56 AM
Hi,

Last night, here in Canada, we got to see "The Tudors" execution scene of Thomas Cromwell.
It depicted the grotesque and horrifying botchery of a drunken executioner hacking away at Cromwell and then a guard mercifully finishing the job with a deft one blow.
My question is:
Did this actually happen?  Was this poor man so brutally murdered?
Or is this just another fiction, which this program seems to revel in???
Any insight and historical facts will be welcome...

Thanks,
Larry
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Royal Bulgaria on September 16, 2010, 09:12:36 AM
Unfortunately,
Cromwell was arrested and imprisoned in the Tower of London. Cromwell was subjected to an Act of Attainder and was kept alive by Henry VIII until his marriage to Anne of Cleves could be annulled.He was executed on Tower Hill on 28 July 1540, the same day that the king went on to marry Catherine Howard..After his execution, Cromwell's head was boiled and then set upon a spike on London Bridge, facing away from the City of London. Edward Hall, a contemporary chronicler, records that Cromwell made a speech on the scaffold, professing to die, "in the traditional faith" and then "so paciently suffered the stroke of the axe, by a ragged Boocherly miser whiche very ungoodly perfourmed the Office". Hall said of Cromwell's downfall.
So infact the axe man did foul it up.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Imperial_Grounds on September 16, 2010, 09:39:32 AM
Yep true... Another popular fact of fiction is that Catherine Howard said "I die a  Queen, But i'd rather die the wife of Culpepper." She never said this, only the Tudors uses this line as her speech - as far as I know -, in the 2003 Miniseries "Henry VIII" she goes running around screaming she does not want to die and the BBC-series "The Six Wives of Henry VIII"  seems to show the most correct version, as this series tries to stay true to history... However, I loved how they did it in The Tudors, even if it's fiction. To me that final episode was the one that made me like Catherine's character in the series...

Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Vecchiolarry on September 16, 2010, 11:57:20 AM
Hi,

Thank you for those facts - horrifying though they are....

The series starting next week begins with Catherine Howard's marriage to Henry.  From what I've seen of her so far, she seems to be portrayed as a 'tart'...
I sympathize more with Anne of Cleves, whom I didn't think was such a homely woman.  I thought she was pretty attractive and handled herself as a 'lady'...
I'm glad she ended up as a "woman of property" - a rarity in 16th century history...  Good for you, Annie!!

Larry
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 17, 2010, 07:13:07 AM
LAst night i saw the episode of the execution of Cromwell. I felt very sorry for him and it was horrible they way he died since the executioner failed in cut his head not only one but many times. He was so wasted!


Also i found Josh stone as Anne of Cleeves awesome and i also felt very sorry for her in special when she was informed of the nulity of her marriage with Henry.

About Catherine....im glad she will be also executed...i didnt like her at all


Im looking forward to see the new episode next Thursday!!!
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Imperial_Grounds on September 17, 2010, 07:42:30 AM
Well... I did not like Catherine either, right up to her final episode. It was so sad to see - though not as strong as Anne's death -, a pity she could not have shown more dignity as Queen.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 17, 2010, 07:47:32 AM
I see you have seen more episodes than me. Tell, me, please!! how much i have to wait to see Catherine`s death?
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Royal Bulgaria on September 17, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
Catherine's death is in Season 4 Epissode 5 :) And it's the whole end...
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Imperial_Grounds on September 17, 2010, 12:05:03 PM
Well, Katenka quite a few episodes it seems... But season 4 is great. I found season 3 not that great, the only good moment was Jan's death, that was the one moment I felt a strong sadness, but further on I thought that Anne of Cleves was a bit rushed and I didn't know what to think about miss Howard. Season 4 is great because of the intrigue surrounding Catherine and her lovelife, her downfall - a pity though that Lady Rochford's final words are altered, like Catherine's(would have loved to hear Jane admit she lied about George and Anne) -, Henry's final marriage with Catherine Parr - played by Joelly Richardson, whom I loved as Marie Antoinette in "The Affair of the Necklace" - and the eventual final episode which was such a great final.... But enough spoilering.

Here's some of my latest fan-vidding:

Jane Seymour - Follow The Sun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytYfeVQrwt0
Catherine Howard - The Hill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDmr0xUfu1U

Don't watch the Catherine-video if you don't want spoilers... It has a little 'historical' surprise too.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 17, 2010, 07:13:58 PM
I think im gonna have to wait a lot then =(. Thank you both!
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: amelia on December 04, 2011, 03:30:10 PM
I started ordering The Tudors through Netflix and I would like to know how many seasons there are in these series. Thanks Amelia
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Kimberly on December 05, 2011, 02:17:54 AM
There are 3 seasons. You can buy the complete boxed set too. I am re watching them at the moment......they are so bad they're good!!!
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Selencia on February 11, 2012, 01:54:23 AM
Tudor's for me have been over for about a year or more. Actually the Borgia's has ended season 1. I hated the way The Tudor's treated Catherine Howard; she is my least favorite queen, but she definitely deserved better than the Tudor's gave her. Essentially an idiotic skank who couldn't tell you what color the sky was. I also felt the show did a disservice to Katherine Parr, her story was too rushed and her personality wasnt elaborated enough. On a shallow note, I hated that the shows refusal to age Henry made Katherine appear too old.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Robert_Hall on February 11, 2012, 11:03:42 AM
I do not care for The Tudors at all. It is far too fictionalised for my taste. However, the Borgias series is brilliant and I look forward to the next series.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Selencia on February 18, 2012, 08:37:39 PM
I liked The Tudors mostly for the gowns and hairstyles. Jonathan Rhys Myers as Henry was just too laughable for me to watch. To be honest The Borgias is kind of boring, maybe because I am not Catholic and don't know a lot about the family. But so far I am just waiting on pins and needles for Juan to disappear and The Pope to die. Also his attraction to his new mistress makes absolutely no sense to me. The stories aren't as consistent and the lines connecting them aren't as smooth as they were on The Tudors; the motivations of some of the secondary characters just don't make sense to me.
The costumes are ok, not as great as The Tudors, at least not yet.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Padawan Ryan on March 25, 2012, 03:06:06 PM
There are 3 seasons. You can buy the complete boxed set too. I am re watching them at the moment......they are so bad they're good!!!


There are actually four seasons. The fourth is not brand new, either, as you posted this in December 2011 and I downloaded all four in the summer of 2011. The fourth came out on DVD in October.
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Kimberly on March 27, 2012, 07:33:17 AM
Well, excuse me for the typo !
Title: Re: New Showtime Series About the Tudors
Post by: Selencia on March 29, 2012, 03:03:23 AM
Back to the shows, does anyone know when Juan dies? Is it a few years after his dad becomes Pope and if so will it be this season or next season? And how did Cesare get a jericurl?