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Discussions about Russian History => Imperial Transportation => Topic started by: Phil_tomaselli on May 01, 2009, 06:36:21 AM

Title: 'Stolypinki'
Post by: Phil_tomaselli on May 01, 2009, 06:36:21 AM
From what I can gather 'Stolypinki' were specially adapted railway carriages designed for the mass transportation of prisoners.  Looking from the outside like ordinary carriages they contained internal cages where prisoners could be held in groups under guard.  Originally used in the Tsarist period they continued in use throughout the Stalinist period and some were used to take Polish prisoners to Katyn.

Problem is, though I know of descriptions of them I'm unable to trace any photographs or even drawings.  Does anyonme know where any might be found?

Phil Tomaselli
Title: Re: 'Stolypinki'
Post by: Olgasha on May 01, 2009, 08:01:47 AM
I haven't got any photographs or drawings, but look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vdc_yKtOiM

And check this gallery [with photos of Wajda's movie "Katyn"]:
http://www.e-gory.pl/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,50/catid,149/
Title: Re: 'Stolypinki'
Post by: Mike on May 01, 2009, 11:07:01 AM
A 1920s Soviet prisoner car displayed at the Latvian Railway museum in Riga:
(http://www.train-photo.ru/data/media/461/tr_056.jpg)
The explanation shield:
(http://www.train-photo.ru/data/media/461/PA030433.jpg)
Title: Re: 'Stolypinki'
Post by: Mike on May 01, 2009, 11:12:22 AM
The car's other side (that of "passenger compartments", note no windows):
(http://www.train-photo.ru/data/media/461/tr_055.jpg)
Title: Re: 'Stolypinki'
Post by: Phil_tomaselli on May 01, 2009, 03:14:30 PM
Very many thanks.

We do indeed have some fascinating people with odd and cuious interests and knowledge on this site!

Phil Tomaselli
Title: Re: 'Stolypinki'
Post by: Terence on May 02, 2009, 12:37:01 AM
Very many thanks.

We do indeed have some fascinating people with odd and cuious interests and knowledge on this site!

Phil Tomaselli

Indeed.  And I'd like to add my thanks to Mike, he answered my initial questions here.

To me that's the greatest joy of history, discovery, exploring and sharing.

T