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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Wittlesbachs => Topic started by: Madame-Sisi on September 09, 2009, 07:17:38 AM

Title: books
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 09, 2009, 07:17:38 AM
hi everybody.

i seen alot of books on the internet but could you make a list of books about the wittelbachs?
im searching for books about empress elisabeths sisters or other interesting persons from the wittelsbach family like ludwig II.

which book can you recomend?

Thnx!
Greetings.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Rani on September 10, 2009, 11:29:14 AM
Duke Carl Theodor in Bavaria

Richarch Sexau: Fürst und Arzt - Dr. med. Herzog Carl Theodor in Bayern / Schicksal zwischen Wittelsbach und Habsburg  

Maria Sophia of Naples

Clara Tschudi: Königin Maria Sophia von Neapel eine unvergessene Heldin
Arrigo Petacco: Die Heldin von Gaeta

Sophie of Alencon

Dominique Paoli: La Duchesse d'Alençon : Sophie-Charlotte, soeur de Sissi
Marguerite Bourcet: UN COUPLE DE TRAGEDIE - LE DUC ET LA DUCHESSE D'ALENCON

King Otto I. (Ludwigs brother)

Alfons Schweiggert: Schattenkönig. Otto, der Bruder König Ludwig II. von Bayern, ein Lebensbild

The Dukes in Bavaria

Hermann von Witzleben: Die Herzöge in Bayern. Von der Pfalz zum Tegernsee

The Wittelsbachs

Adalbert Prinz von Bayern: Die Wittelsbacher, Geschichte unserer Familie
Prince Leopold of Bavaria: Leopold Prinz von Bayern (1846-1930). Aus den Lebenserinnerungen

Maria Gabrielle of Bavaria, Sisis niece

Engelbert Huber: Marie Gabrielle Prinzessin von Bayern
Title: Re: books
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 10, 2009, 07:25:15 PM
Do you know books in English? Easy to get? Specially to be able to read them by internet?
I don't understand German :-( and here is difficult ot get that kind of books
Advanced Thanks!
Title: Re: books
Post by: Rani on September 11, 2009, 03:44:05 PM
I don´t know if you know archive.org. There are many books about Elisabeth, which you can read online or upload as winzip. There is also a book about Marie of Naples from Clara Tschudi. It´s all in English. And the book of Marie Wallersee : My Past.




Title: Re: books
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 13, 2009, 11:17:39 AM
I don´t know if you know archive.org. There are many books about Elisabeth, which you can read online or upload as winzip. There is also a book about Marie of Naples from Clara Tschudi. It´s all in English. And the book of Marie Wallersee : My Past.






One question... are they free or have I to pay to read them? Can you add here a link???
Thanks for the help
Title: Re: books
Post by: Rani on September 13, 2009, 01:33:22 PM
They are free.

Marie Larisch
http://www.archive.org/details/mypastmoen00lariuoft
http://www.archive.org/stream/mypastmoen00lariuoft#page/n9/mode/2up


Empress Elisabeth
at this link thre are a few books about Sisi
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=empress%20elisabeth%20AND%20collection%3Atoronto


Maria of Naples
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=empress%20elisabeth%20AND%20collection%3Atoronto

Franz Joseph
a link with with a gew books about FJ
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=franz%20joseph%20austria%20AND%20collection%3Aamericana

Rudolf
http://www.archive.org/details/lastdaysofarchdu00gran
http://www.archive.org/details/mypastreminisce00moengoog
http://www.archive.org/details/gesammelteornit00rudogoog
http://www.archive.org/details/notesonsportorni00rudo
http://www.archive.org/details/diesterreichisc03rudogoog

Title: Re: books
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 14, 2009, 06:23:47 PM
Thank you very999 much!!!! I'll read it as soon as I have a free day ;-)
Title: Re: books
Post by: Madame-Sisi on October 04, 2009, 04:33:40 PM
thanks Rani!
the one off Sophie is it only in french?

if you know more books 2 recomend just tell me..
so strange but i never buy a book who is not recomendend...well its not strange i think most people dont buy books who are not recomenable... :-)
Title: Re: books
Post by: Rani on October 10, 2009, 12:36:42 PM
Joseph Albert, Hofphotograph der bayerischen Könige
W. Ranke

Is this book good? And which persons are in this book??
Title: Re: books
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on January 01, 2010, 12:50:42 AM
question are there any photo albums?
Title: Re: books
Post by: MarieCharlotte on January 01, 2010, 05:07:32 AM
question are there any photo albums?

Martha Schad: Bayerns Königshaus. Die Familiengeschichte der Wittelsbacher in Bildern.
(Translation: The Royal House of Bavaria. The story of their family in pictures.)

Hella and Eugen von Bayern: Die Wittelsbacher und ihre Hunde.
(Translation: The Wittelsbachs and their dogs.)

The biography about Marie Gabrielle in Bavaria by Mr. Huber also contains a lot of pictures as well as the biography about Antonia of Luxemburg by Jean-Louis Schlim.

And there is the famous "Fanilienalbum von Kaiser FJ und Elisabeth" by Gabriele Praschl-Bichler ... but it's really hard to get.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on January 01, 2010, 10:25:11 AM
Danke!!! :)
Title: Re: books
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 07, 2010, 02:15:20 PM
It's a great problem to find them in a place like Mexico, there aren't info of them, they're not famous
Title: Re: books
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 07, 2010, 02:16:30 PM
Can buy books on Amazon.com
Title: Re: books
Post by: RealAnastasia on January 08, 2010, 10:40:13 PM
Can buy books on Amazon.com

I did that until I could. After some five years, our local peso went so low that a book cost three times it real prize in Amazon or other  online bookstores  , so most of the books I used to purchase by internet are nearly prohibitive for me. Too expensive!

You must not be so dry with people who doesn't knows so awfully much about an issue. If everyone would know all about an issue, the discussion boards like this one should be closed .

You are right if you lectures a person who doesn't ride the new historical material that is published and tries to discuss here without knowing nothing or almost nothing about different issues. But you are very wrong if you are lecturing a person who CAN'T purchase new books because they are expensive by the net.


RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 09, 2010, 11:19:46 AM
Not only by the net, everywhere. Sadly , her in latin america, buy books, in special about royalty is HIGHLY expensive, and even more for students like us.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 09, 2010, 02:43:20 PM
I think there are ways of getting information.l Saw Spanish version of books of Sisi. Libraries are usually a good source.

Lets go back to the discussion.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 09, 2010, 02:50:36 PM
Hmm at least in chile you wont find books about royalty in the libraries...Things are slightly different in that field here, in south america...


Back to the topic...


A tender image of Karl Theodor and wife Maria Josepha


(http://i47.tinypic.com/34e2cdf.jpg)
Title: Re: books
Post by: Veronica on January 09, 2010, 04:02:33 PM
Hmm at least in chile you wont find books about royalty in the libraries...Things are slightly different in that field here, in south america...

The same goes for Argentina. Books on royalty are really rare. I consider myself very lucky whenever I find a royalty book...
Title: Re: books
Post by: Rani on January 09, 2010, 05:10:21 PM
I think if the interests are stronger in South America maybe the book stores will sell more royalty books.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on January 09, 2010, 05:42:28 PM
Its even hard to find books about Royalty (expt the Brittish) and old royals in America in bookstores.  Here only easily you can find books about Queen Elizabeth II, her son and grandsons, her late and x-daughter in law Diana the Princess of Wales, whom I don't care for.

Use bookstores are good to find about some old royals, but not so much.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 09, 2010, 07:05:00 PM
Well. They do have some if it famous authors like Hugo Vickers. The ones on the daughters & grandaughters of Queen Victoria isalso available in Borders & Barnes & Noble. Britian has more selection are far as Royalty books go.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Silja on January 16, 2010, 12:57:11 PM
question are there any photo albums?

Martha Schad: Bayerns Königshaus. Die Familiengeschichte der Wittelsbacher in Bildern.
(Translation: The Royal House of Bavaria. The story of their family in pictures.)

Hella and Eugen von Bayern: Die Wittelsbacher und ihre Hunde.
(Translation: The Wittelsbachs and their dogs.)

The biography about Marie Gabrielle in Bavaria by Mr. Huber also contains a lot of pictures as well as the biography about Antonia of Luxemburg by Jean-Louis Schlim.

And there is the famous "Fanilienalbum von Kaiser FJ und Elisabeth" by Gabriele Praschl-Bichler ... but it's really hard to get.


There is also Sisis Familienalbum by Werner Bokelberg (ed.). One section is about the Wittelsbach relations. The photos are very small, and some of the captions are incorrect, but it's nevertheless a nice little book. Unfortuantely, it is also out of print and not easy to find.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 16, 2010, 04:49:12 PM
I have seen that book. It is a treasure.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Princess Susan on January 17, 2010, 04:34:53 AM
I always regret, that I did not buy it before. Are there many rare pictures?
Title: Re: books
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 17, 2010, 07:30:08 PM
Quite a few...especially of Marie, Mathilde and Sophie Charlotte...
Title: Re: books
Post by: MarieCharlotte on January 22, 2010, 04:49:35 PM
I always regret, that I did not buy it before. Are there many rare pictures?

When I bought this book years ago, most of the cdvs were unknown to me. But meanwhile a lot of them were scaned and shown in all those discussion boards about Elisabeth and her family. I think you would be able to find 70% of the pictures online today.
Title: Re: books
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 23, 2010, 03:33:49 PM
indeed. It was the 30% that makes people want to get them.