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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Hohenzollern => Topic started by: KarlandZita on September 26, 2009, 11:52:06 AM

Title: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on September 26, 2009, 11:52:06 AM
New pictures from the Huis Doorn foto collectie :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vick06.jpg)
Teenage Victoria Louise

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vickwyly.jpg)
With a young lady

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vic4.jpg)
In 1907

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vicauvjoa.jpg)
Victoria Louise with her mother Auguste Viktoria and her brother Joachim
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 26, 2009, 12:10:58 PM
Viktoria and Ernt august, Courtesy also of the Huis Doorn

(http://i38.tinypic.com/23mvsx.jpg)

An old VL

(http://i33.tinypic.com/zjcas5.jpg)


Ps: we , in other forum, had a discussion about if Viktoria used a wig when she was old. What do you think?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on September 26, 2009, 01:38:14 PM
Victoria Louise on board the "Hohenzollern" :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/hohen2.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vobh.jpg)

With her brother Joachim :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/withjoa.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 26, 2009, 02:26:48 PM
here another pciture of her posted by Pablo Milstein in "dinastias". Says that the wig looks even more notorious


Picture dated in 1966 and i can identify Queen Sofia of Spain in the right. The woman in the middle i dont know who she is. Can someone help me?

(http://i37.tinypic.com/24ozj82.jpg)


Pd: Karldandzita, can you please post the direct link to see those picture in the Huis Doorn?. Cause the quality isnt the best and im sure there we can see it in better resolution and quality. Thank in advanced!
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on September 26, 2009, 02:45:27 PM
Isn't that Princess Irene of Greece in the middle--Constantine and Sofia's sister? It looks like she's wearing her grandmother Sophie's tiara.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 26, 2009, 03:21:54 PM
is she? i didnt recognized her. Thanks you!
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on September 27, 2009, 06:08:07 AM
This is Irene of Greece, no doubt.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Svetabel on September 27, 2009, 12:26:41 PM


http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vickwyly.jpg (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vickwyly.jpg)
With a young lady



A young lady is Princess Alexandra Viktoria of Gluksburg, future sister-in-law of VL.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: ashdean on September 27, 2009, 12:34:35 PM
here another pciture of her posted by Pablo Milstein in "dinastias". Says that the wig looks even more notorious


Picture dated in 1966 and i can identify Queen Sofia of Spain in the right. The woman in the middle i dont know who she is. Can someone help me?

http://i37.tinypic.com/24ozj82.jpg (http://i37.tinypic.com/24ozj82.jpg)


Pd: Karldandzita, can you please post the direct link to see those picture in the Huis Doorn?. Cause the quality isnt the best and im sure there we can see it in better resolution and quality. Thank in advanced!
The lady between VL and Sophia is Sophia's sister (thus VL's grandaughter) Irene of Greece.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 27, 2009, 01:28:53 PM
Thanks everybody for the answer. Now..whos the lady next to V.L in this picture?

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1482/67100707.jpg)


Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on October 06, 2009, 12:38:04 PM
I love this picture of Viktoria Luise where she is really a perfect elegance :

http://fotocollectie.huisdoorn.nl/HuDF-1353

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 06, 2009, 02:48:26 PM
i agree!!

V.L and brother Joachim.


(http://i35.tinypic.com/25pnzmc.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on October 06, 2009, 03:16:50 PM
Victoria Luise was really close to her younger brother. The suicidde of Joachim in 1921 had to mark her deeply.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 06, 2009, 03:24:14 PM
Victoria Louisa looks really good with this hairdo of 1960's ;-) She was a very beautiful young lady...
did she like to ride horses very much? I've seen a pair more of photos of VL ridding horses?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Aliss_Kande on October 06, 2009, 09:56:18 PM
Victoria Luise was really close to her younger brother. The suicidde of Joachim in 1921 had to mark her deeply.

Joachim was actually 2 years older than Viktoria.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 07, 2009, 07:28:10 PM
She looks very young in the photo were she is ridding the horse? Do you know how old was she?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on October 10, 2009, 07:33:27 AM
Ernst August and Viktoria Luise visiting Blankenburg, in May 1914 :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/evic.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/arrivinginblankenburginmay1914.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/instreetsblankenburg.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/1914.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/erahvic.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/hussvi.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/81.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/80.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 11, 2009, 07:12:14 PM
V.L and Ernst august in their daughter`s wedding

(http://i36.tinypic.com/25k32nb.jpg)


Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 13, 2009, 06:55:43 PM
When was took the last photo? of the wedding
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 13, 2009, 07:22:31 PM
9 January 1938 , in Athens
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 14, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
9 January 1938 , in Athens

Thank you very much for the information Katenka
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on October 24, 2009, 09:30:18 AM
Beautiful portrait of Viktoria Luise :

(http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/18693/2601247210103936585S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2601247210103936585jBBZGE)


Courtesy Webshots.com
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 24, 2009, 10:36:26 AM
beautiful and new!!

Hand tinted picture of V.L courtesy of the Huis Doorn

(http://i36.tinypic.com/2u428u9.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on October 24, 2009, 10:52:39 AM
Yes, it's a beautiful portrait of the young girl, probably taken around 1910-1911.

I wonder if there are many other of Viktoria Luise before her marriage.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 24, 2009, 11:57:39 AM
handtinted ones? i dont know..i ll look for them but in B&W for sure
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 27, 2009, 08:09:21 PM
Beautiful portrait of Viktoria Luise :

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/18693/2601247210103936585S600x600Q85.jpg (http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/18693/2601247210103936585S600x600Q85.jpg)


Courtesy Webshots.com
Wonderful one!!! ;-D
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on October 29, 2009, 04:24:25 PM
Two pictures illustrate perfectly the elegance perfect of  Viktoria Luise in all circumstances :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/avvl.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/victoriamanover.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 29, 2009, 07:27:05 PM
Viktoria Louise and nephew Louis Ferdinand

(http://i35.tinypic.com/30axs1w.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 30, 2009, 02:18:16 PM
She looks incredible in all her photos, but the ones that KarlandZita posted are really
beautiful, she had a perfect sense on fashion and elegance ;-)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on October 31, 2009, 05:17:13 AM
What fascinates me most about Viktoria Luise is the impression of trust, confidence and optimism that emerges in all circumstances. On her pictures, she appears very often smiling at the edge of hilarity and gives the impression of still having fun even in lengthy public ceremonies. She knew and assumed her royal job remarkably.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: tecklenburg on November 04, 2009, 02:28:11 AM
Is it Princess Donata who's talking with Duchess ViKtoria Luise ?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on November 06, 2009, 05:36:42 PM
Those colour pictures above are really nice.

Not a wonderful picture of her, but quite atmospheric I think:
(http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/43817/2738863050100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

Out riding with her father, unmistakable even though she's looking away:
(http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/5086/2396865360100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 06, 2009, 06:09:22 PM
i love and hate those postcard cause barely can see V.L!

V.L with her hussar uniform

(http://i37.tinypic.com/vcw09y.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on November 07, 2009, 03:24:15 AM
That's nice, here's one to accompany it, at Danzig:
(http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/42065/2482435020100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)


And another of her at a distance! On a state occasion for once.
(http://inlinethumb25.webshots.com/20696/2055598700100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 07, 2009, 09:25:40 AM
the first one is so beautiful! i lkove to see her with uniform!

I like this one, is from the huis door.

Ice skating!

(http://i34.tinypic.com/192o0l.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on November 07, 2009, 02:11:01 PM
I like that - it reminds that I haven't looked throught that collection properly yet.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 07, 2009, 02:12:11 PM
got tons of gorgeous pictures and candids of the hohenzollern. And the best of all, you can buy copies online  ;-)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on November 18, 2009, 04:40:49 AM
Two cheerful pictures of VL in cars:

(http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/45521/2423614750100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

(http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/43773/2102540650100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 18, 2009, 08:46:24 AM
love the first one!!

I found another of Vl with her  hussar uniform

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2igogsz.jpg)

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on November 18, 2009, 09:58:25 AM
As indicated by her excited smile and the grin in EA's face in addition to the close-in crowds of cheering fans, they were a very popular and well liked couple throughout their lives.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 18, 2009, 02:46:03 PM
Sooo lovely little amazon!!! I love this photos!!!
I didn't know that she could skate on ice!!! ;-)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 18, 2009, 03:46:38 PM
Ice skating was a pretty common sport among the royals. There are tons of  pictures of them ice skating (Patsy connaught with Gustav V, Marie of Romania and husband Ferdinand, Juliana of Netherlands, and etc etc)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 18, 2009, 06:48:18 PM
I also have ones of Vicky & Fritz in a skating party, Daisy Connaught, Alfonso & Ena, Maurice Battenberg, Missy with Elizabeth and, I think, Ileana. It was very popular it seems through the generations. In Prussia, though, didn't Wilhelm's sister-in-law write in her memoirs about the restrictions on it?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on November 23, 2009, 03:59:11 AM
There are some delightful pictures of Juliana skating as a little girl; something of a Dutch speciality I suppose. Here's Prince Wilhelm jr. following in his aunt's footsteps (if that's the right expression):

(http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/19752/2475671820100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

(http://inlinethumb25.webshots.com/3672/2429587030100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 23, 2009, 08:57:24 AM
Cute!!

V.L Adalbert and ome puppies. Courtesy of the Huis doorn

(http://i47.tinypic.com/9gkn5t.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 23, 2009, 02:31:27 PM
Did Viktoria Louisa loved very much having pets?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on November 23, 2009, 05:30:16 PM
She certainly seemed to like dachshunds, she had her own later.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on November 23, 2009, 06:42:33 PM
I recall reading in her memoirs that she was fond of dogs.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 24, 2009, 02:59:01 PM
Yes, in several of photos of her she is taking dogs or being near of them ;-)
Didn't she like other animals?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on November 24, 2009, 03:49:31 PM
As pets, who knows? But, both she and her mother, the Kaiserin, did spend a reasonable amount of time at the zoological garten in Berlin.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 25, 2009, 03:12:49 PM
I didn't know that, she was really interested in animals ;-)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on December 05, 2009, 08:12:16 AM
Ernst August and Viktoria Luise receiving the Grand Duke and Duchess of Mecklenburg-Schwerin :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vlmoy.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/mecklbrunsw.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/rtey.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 05, 2009, 12:36:06 PM
V.L with her mother and people i dont know. Maybe relatives? Help needed over here!

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2vj7tq9.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 05, 2009, 06:04:05 PM
Do you know what is written in the last part of the photo of VL on the window?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 05, 2009, 06:21:25 PM
No,im sorry buit i suspect its something that someone wrote before sending that postcard
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on December 06, 2009, 07:07:24 AM
Portrait of Viktoria Luise little girl :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/portratvl.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 06, 2009, 10:51:36 AM
Can someone tell me about this gentleman?

(http://i49.tinypic.com/efkq34.jpg)

Ernst August Hanover, eldest son of V.L. Was this one who had problems with her?. Thanks in advanced.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on December 07, 2009, 01:12:10 PM
That's the one. Looks to be overflowing with human kindness, doesn't he?

http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/16626/2439980620100532270S600x600Q85.jpg
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 07, 2009, 01:22:14 PM
hahaha. Its like he s trying to scare people with that fierce look but looks kind of silly. I wonder what he would thought if he knew his son is called Ernst august "Hangover" or as we call it in spanish "Hanebrio" (Ebrio = drunk)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on December 08, 2009, 10:15:13 AM
I suspect that if one was to photoshop his outfit, remove the nazi garb, and replace it with a fashionable business suit in the way cousin Louis Ferdinand was often photographed, his facial expression would not appear silly or fierce, but rather a bit calm and charming.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 08, 2009, 10:34:27 AM
Right. That swastika and uniform does a lot with that picture.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Rani on December 08, 2009, 01:33:12 PM
Can someone tell me about this gentleman?

http://i49.tinypic.com/efkq34.jpg (http://i49.tinypic.com/efkq34.jpg)

Ernst August Hanover, eldest son of V.L. Was this one who had problems with her?. Thanks in advanced.

He looks like "I have diarrhoea!"
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on December 09, 2009, 01:01:37 PM
here is VL's son Ernst in the suit of Heinrich of Reuss. See how differently his attitude appears when dressed in clothes that are appealing?

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/ver2-1.png)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 09, 2009, 01:21:24 PM
he looks handsome over there. As other royals he seems to have a "signature" pose for all the pic, of mostly of them  xDDD
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on December 10, 2009, 02:59:44 PM
He resembles one of the brothers of Viktoria Luise but I can not say which one.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 10, 2009, 03:33:46 PM
Recalling,  the only one he resemblence is August Wilhelm.,...th one who was a fervient Nazi.

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on December 11, 2009, 01:54:54 PM
A rare photo of Viktoria Luise child :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/viktoriausie.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 11, 2009, 02:16:51 PM
It doesnt look like Viktoria to me. Where did you find it?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on December 11, 2009, 02:34:44 PM
On Ebay and the picture is captioned " Prinzessin Viktoria Luise". Also, I think this girl has the features of Viktoria Luise.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 11, 2009, 02:39:53 PM
yes, of course, but it isnt her. Her neck is shorter, her hair is darker and etc etc. Its very common to find  pictures with wrong captions on Ebay..Very common.

The other time i found this one (http://i49.tinypic.com/2wolnj9.jpg) on ebay as Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich. Obvioulsly this cute baby its not him
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on December 12, 2009, 12:18:23 PM
I really do not know. It looks very similar to Viktoria Luise. What do others think ?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 12, 2009, 01:12:36 PM
Im 100% sure she isnt. Bersides, at that year (1904 i read at Hephaiste`s ebay) she was smaller, had bangs and softer (and less) hair.

Here a pic circa that date

(http://i46.tinypic.com/t6857r.jpg)

And more

(http://i47.tinypic.com/90o8i8.jpg)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/lllld.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 12, 2009, 05:04:04 PM
Portrait of Viktoria Luise little girl :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/portratvl.jpg)

She looks like an angel on this pic!!! Thank you!!! ;-D
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Svetabel on December 13, 2009, 03:05:29 AM
I really do not know. It looks very similar to Viktoria Luise. What do others think ?

That's not Viktoria Luise. A little resemblance does exist but that's not her.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 13, 2009, 09:05:46 AM
Exactly. Hephaiste has a couple of miss tagged pictures more on sale. This (http://i49.tinypic.com/vru9o2.jpg) defo isnt Little Elisabeth of hesse and this (http://i45.tinypic.com/22dxco.jpg) one doesnt look a bit to Charlotte of Mexico


Her/his great grandmother`s albumn is a mess! xDDD.

Ps: The saddest thing is there are people bidding for those pictures :-S
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Sara Araújo on December 13, 2009, 09:41:57 AM
As a baby, surrounded by her brothers:

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAIb2D_IA9gv502-29T9533stQqUlFJNHzMUYM7tHEbR9K7SLGZC5c4eJsNN6W7th2TKtz-SKJEmJWEE4t-WG6yMAm1T1UHTx5ufgJ868UMIbXwjRgY4C9Gqj.jpg)

And in her mother's arms:

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAP01gBMBxcK0arBDehyAdzXp0TdFUjW3WpDEnk7JkYV5jsXhIrCRekMPkwSQvZIFFSp0yscm9emYFEBmlncBLpcAm1T1UK_yBYhA7rSDpgvdY57uH3ieajh7.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on December 13, 2009, 10:28:15 AM
Only daughter, Viktoria Luise was treated differently by their parents who showed more flexibility and leniency towards her than towards her brothers.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 13, 2009, 10:30:48 AM
Course, she was her daddy`s little girl.

Illustration of VL wedding.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2pzjoet.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on December 13, 2009, 10:41:37 AM
Course, she was her daddy`s little girl.


By her parents's darling, Viktoria Luise could become a capricious woman, selfish and arrogant as often happens in such cases. Fortunately, she did not become.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on December 14, 2009, 05:22:33 PM
Only daughter, Viktoria Luise was treated differently by their parents who showed more flexibility and leniency towards her than towards her brothers.

It was not only being the only daughter that garnered her parents' attention and offerened VL expanded opportunities. She had a greater outgoing spirit and sense for leadership. Her father, perhaps whimsically, said he wished she was a man because she appeared more robust and capable than her brothers. Certainly, her legacy speaks to a greater ability to manage affairs.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on December 15, 2009, 04:32:42 AM
Purely by chance, I came across some interesting info about Victoria Louise's son Ernst while in London over the weekend.

Thumbing through 'The Truth About Rudolf Hess' by James Douglas-Hamilton, I found not only a photograph of Ernst in civilian clothes in the 1930s (I would guess that it was taken while he was at Oxford) but the information that in 1944 he was brought back from the Russian Front on suspicion of being involved in the July Plot and held in Moabit Prison and interrogated by the Gestapo. He pops up on the fringes of the Rudolf Hess saga because one of the protagonists was in Moabit at the same time and Ernst knew the Douglas-Hamilton family by virtue of having been at Oxford with one of the Duke of Hamilton's younger brothers. He obviously knew the family well enough for one of them to go and see him in Germany within weeks of the end of the war.

Unfortunately, I had no means of copying the photograph, but will do so when I lay hands on the book again.

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 18, 2009, 05:57:23 PM
About the girl that looks a little bit like Viktoria Louisa... Can't she be a relative of her?
They have similar features
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 18, 2009, 06:37:14 PM
Nope. If you see hephaiste `s ebay items she/he has  A LOT of mislabeled pictures. I want to believe she / he s really wrong and she/ he it is noit a fraudulent seller.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 19, 2009, 04:22:36 PM
Yes, she looks to strange for being Viktoria Louise or other person realated to her.
Nope. If you see hephaiste `s ebay items she/he has  A LOT of mislabeled pictures. I want to believe she / he s really wrong and she/ he it is noit a fraudulent seller.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on December 21, 2009, 02:08:40 PM
Cumberland and Brunswick Family :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/badenmecklemburgcumberland.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/cumbhannover1917.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/brunswfam.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 21, 2009, 02:20:02 PM
talking about her son Ernst august I just found pictures of his wedding with Ortrud (what an strange name). VL went to the ceremony?

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2zewgup.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2146puc.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Svetabel on December 21, 2009, 11:42:15 PM
talking about her son Ernst august I just found pictures of his wedding with Ortrud (what an strange name). VL went to the ceremony?


She went. There are photos of her and husband from the engagement of Ernst and Ortrud as well as from their civil wedding.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 22, 2009, 02:11:32 PM
Beautiful family photos ;-)
Ortrud is a strange name, I've never heard ut before.... was she German?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 22, 2009, 03:02:00 PM
i think she was. Thanks  Svetabel for the answer!
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on December 22, 2009, 07:53:34 PM

Ortrud is an ancient German name - famous due to Wagner's operas - and might sound strange when pronounced wrongly..........

Duchess Ortrud was née Schleswig-Holstein
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Svetabel on December 23, 2009, 01:33:29 AM
talking about her son Ernst august I just found pictures of his wedding with Ortrud (what an strange name). VL went to the ceremony?


She went. There are photos of her and husband from the engagement of Ernst and Ortrud as well as from their civil wedding.


i think she was. Thanks  Svetabel for the answer!

Here is the civil wedding. VL and spouse are at back

(http://i45.tinypic.com/70gxew.jpg)

The same day

(http://i45.tinypic.com/30lnwjp.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on December 23, 2009, 09:26:46 AM
Beautiful family photos ;-)
Ortrud is a strange name, I've never heard ut before.... was she German?

Her father was Albrecht of Schleswig-Holstein and she was the only child by his 2nd wife, Hertha Pss zu Isenburg-Büdingen. Ironically, Albrecht's first wife was named Ortrud. Two of Ortrud's brothers were KIA in WW2. Her 3rd brother, Friedrich, married Alexandra of Mecklenburg-Schwerin who was the first cousin of Ortrud's future husband. Despite the age discrepancies, Ortrud was first cousin to Duchess Victoria Adelheid of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Princess August Wilhelm of Prussia (VL's sister-in-law), Princess Helena of Denmark (married to Prince Harold, another cousin of Ernst August Sr), amongst others. She thus had a lot of connections to both her future mother-in-law and father-in-law.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on December 23, 2009, 01:40:22 PM
talking about her son Ernst august I just found pictures of his wedding with Ortrud (what an strange name). VL went to the ceremony?


She went. There are photos of her and husband from the engagement of Ernst and Ortrud as well as from their civil wedding.


i think she was. Thanks  Svetabel for the answer!

Here is the civil wedding. VL and spouse are at back



The same day



The man with glasses is EA, VL's husband? Was he ill at this time?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 23, 2009, 02:00:19 PM
i was wondering the same thing and comparing dates, Ernst A was towards the end of his life. The matrimony was in 1951 and he died two years after.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on December 23, 2009, 02:59:26 PM
Right, and in this photo, he would be 64 years old, but looks like an 80 year old man.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 23, 2009, 03:45:23 PM
Yes, you re right. Strange, what  happened with him, cancer, perhaps?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on December 23, 2009, 04:57:21 PM
You could really see a resemblance between him and his father in this photos--the balding head and glasses.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 23, 2009, 06:39:13 PM
yes but when they were younger they were, at my opinion way different. Ernst August was much much handsome than his father



(http://i49.tinypic.com/2sajwnd.jpg)


(http://i47.tinypic.com/2rp5p4h.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on December 23, 2009, 08:54:22 PM
Yes, I agree. EA Jr was definitely a handsome fellow whereas no one accused his father of the same! It's just in the photos of him as an older man, there was something in the same of the head (revealed by no hair!) and the glasses that resembled some photos of his father as an older man. EA Sr's face was definitely heavier and coarser than his son's.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 23, 2009, 09:29:54 PM
Thats influence of Thyra`s genes. All her kids where handsome (and girls cute)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 24, 2009, 11:58:16 AM
Thank you spoo much for the information about Ortrud and for the wonderful images that posted ;-)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on December 26, 2009, 12:32:06 PM
Viktoria Luise and her mother Empress Auguste-Viktoria :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/impduch.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/impavduvl.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 26, 2009, 12:57:12 PM
talking about her son Ernst august I just found pictures of his wedding with Ortrud

http://i45.tinypic.com/2zewgup.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2146puc.jpg

A few more

(http://i47.tinypic.com/s2ekps.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2v836ev.jpg)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2zg6mo6.jpg)

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 28, 2009, 03:19:48 PM
Which event was the one where was VL with her mother??
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on December 28, 2009, 08:06:58 PM
I'm thinking it had to do with the arrival of guests for her wedding in 1913.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on January 12, 2010, 02:28:37 PM
Viktoria Luise ridding horse :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vlkj.jpg)

She was, like many princesses of the time, an accomplished horsewoman.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 13, 2010, 12:38:46 PM
Many royal ladies were good amazons, I think that was one of the favorite sports of the royalty
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 15, 2010, 01:29:13 PM
Vl, Frederique and some man i cant identify

(http://i50.tinypic.com/24dodfp.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on January 15, 2010, 04:59:03 PM
Many royal ladies were good amazons, I think that was one of the favorite sports of the royalty

And a very acceptable one for female royalties. One of the few I've never seen on horseback is Queen Mary. Victoria Louise's mother Dona was apparently a very good horsewoman and she, and previously Vicky, reviewed 'their' troops on horseback in official reviews in front of the Kaiser.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Svetabel on January 16, 2010, 03:00:31 AM
Many royal ladies were good amazons, I think that was one of the favorite sports of the royalty

Victoria Louise's mother Dona was apparently a very good horsewoman

I believe I read somewhere that Augusta Viktoria looked very funny on horseback becouse of her stoutness. Funny in comparison with other women, of course.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on January 16, 2010, 04:07:06 AM
Stout or not, Augusta Victoria was a pretty active rider - she once broke a leg jumping.

Apart from Queen Mary, the only other non-rider I know of was the Empress Alexandra. She disliked riding intensely and only got on a horse when she had to. I have a picture of her on horseback  in the unform of her uhlan regiment and she looks quite spectacularly miserable.

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on January 16, 2010, 03:28:40 PM
Stout or not, Augusta Victoria was a pretty active rider - she once broke a leg jumping.

Apart from Queen Mary, the only other non-rider I know of was the Empress Alexandra. She disliked riding intensely and only got on a horse when she had to. I have a picture of her on horseback  in the unform of her uhlan regiment and she looks quite spectacularly miserable.

Ann

Early on, at least, she looked rather sharp in her white uniform. VL followed in her grandmother Vicky's footstaps with the Death Head Hussars, I believe. I think the photo of Vicky during her review shows the same uniform that VL would be wearing during her own reviews.

Yes, AF did look rather uncomfortable on horseback. I don't know her feelings about it though. I never read anything of QM being on horse nor seen any photos. The British royal family didn't seem to review the troops in the same fashion as some of the other royal families--at least the women. Princess Mary was a huge horsewoman as were her female relatives on her paternal side. I don't know whether QM just had an anathema towards it, a bad experience ala Princess Diana or why she seemed to avoid horseback.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 17, 2010, 01:09:01 PM
The majority of the royal ladies looked very well on horseback, the majority of them were perfect
amazons and looked well with their ridding habits
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Janet Ashton on January 19, 2010, 03:29:32 PM

Apart from Queen Mary, the only other non-rider I know of was the Empress Alexandra. She disliked riding intensely and only got on a horse when she had to.

Where did you read this?
As far as I know, it isn't true. Alexandra returned to riding so "soon" (six months) after the birth of her first child that it gave Ella a "turn" lest she upset her insides, and later she would mourn that she was prevented from riding by her doctors but "envy that joy" when her children went out. According to both Buxhoeveden and OLga SA., her particular fondness was driving four-in-hand (like her great nephew used to...)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on January 20, 2010, 03:32:36 AM
I am trying to remember where I read that Alexandra hated riding, but I do have that photograph (which I shall post when I work out how to).

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on January 20, 2010, 01:54:20 PM
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/off.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 20, 2010, 02:12:48 PM
beautiful!!

Im overjoy with this one!!! *0*

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2qjxcee.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 21, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
It's so beautiful Katenka!!! I like her hairdo!!
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on January 21, 2010, 02:57:34 PM
 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

'It's so beautiful Katenka!!! I like her hairdo!!'

Victoria Louise's hair is all right, but I want to take a pair of shears to Joachim!

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 21, 2010, 03:26:53 PM
Poor victorian boys and their bananan curls!! xDD
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on January 22, 2010, 03:39:56 AM
'Poor victorian boys and their bananan curls!! xDD'

Exactly. I was delighted to read in one autobiography that the author, born in 1897, got fed up with long hair and dresses at the age of five, and staged a protest to his mother (who had six sons and was desperate for a daughter) by rolling in a freshly deposited pile of horse dung!

Some of the other ideas for dressing boys were pretty bad too. We have a photograph of my maternal grandfather, born in 1885, aged about five, dressed in a Little Lord Fauntleroy outfit and looking properly furious.

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 25, 2010, 02:09:58 PM
Poor boy!!! :-S To wear dresses must be horrible for him
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on January 25, 2010, 02:26:00 PM
Joachim must have been four or more then, old enough to remember this dreadful hair in later life!

Felix Yussupov, incidentally, claims in Lost Splendours that he actively enjoyed being dressed as a girl.

Incidentally, for non-English-speaking forumeers, Little Lord Fauntleroy was a novel by Frances Hodgson Burnett, who also wrote The Secret Garden and A Little Princess. The eponymous lord spends his early years in America but when his father dies he and his mother go to England to live with his stiff-backed old grandfather. This cherubic small boy, with golden girls and clad in a velvet suit with lace collar, spends his time spreading sweetness and light round the place and winning the hearts of everybody. I've never actually read it, knowing the basics of the plot is sick-making enough. But Little Lord Fauntleroy outfits were very fashionable with mothers, though I imagine the boys themselves would have preferred sailor suits.

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 25, 2010, 02:29:43 PM
Well, but Felix enjoyed it because he was gay
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on January 25, 2010, 04:11:41 PM
This kind of dress and style for young boys was among the upper classes and nobility, of course.

I have not seen any study that provides insights to the mothers' reasons why such a custom was maintained, but I would suspect for some it may have had something to do with the desire to instill some softness in their sons to balance the overbearing victorianisms of their husbands.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 25, 2010, 04:20:35 PM

Lucky Joachim, mommy cut his banana curls soon after that picture was taken

(http://i49.tinypic.com/242yih2.jpg)

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on January 26, 2010, 03:41:44 AM
What a relief! Though the clothes are a shade Fauntleroy Joachim's appearance is greatly improved (the poor lad remained chinless, however).

I think the business of long hair etc for boys must have gone out around the time of the First World War, as from then on small boys tend to be seen with short hair and wearing shorts and sweaters and the like (though some still wore sailor suits for special occasions - my father, born in 1928, tells me he had one for going to church). I think clothes for children became much less elaborate and impractical generally.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 17, 2010, 08:27:57 AM
Viktoria Luise and Ernst August

(http://i49.tinypic.com/pucxz.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 04, 2010, 04:24:30 PM
No worries ^^

VL and her two eldest sons

(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3780/0120100049.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: RealAnastasia on March 04, 2010, 09:51:03 PM
This kind of dress and style for young boys was among the upper classes and nobility, of course.

I have not seen any study that provides insights to the mothers' reasons why such a custom was maintained, but I would suspect for some it may have had something to do with the desire to instill some softness in their sons to balance the overbearing victorianisms of their husbands.

Well, no...Boys of middle classes were also dressed with these kind of "girl's clothes". I have pics of my great-grandpa and his brothers wearing dresses. And there were sell in all clothes shops back then. They were known as "boy's dresses" (in fact they WERE different from girl's ones, even if they were very similar) .

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on March 05, 2010, 03:21:47 AM
RealAnastasia

How old were your great-grandfather and his brothers when wearing dresses?

I have just been reading 'The Bolter' by Frances Osborne (worth a read). The lady in question, elder daughter of the 9th Earl de la Warr, was born in 1893, and there is a photo in the book of her with her brother and sister as children. The brother, born in 1900, looks about two, and is wearing a dress, but has short hair.

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on March 21, 2010, 12:37:31 PM
Viktoria Luise and her mother Augusta-Viktoria :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/kaiserinpzzinvl.jpg)

Ernst August and Viktoria Luise :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/ernstauvl.jpg)

Viktoria Luise, Ernst August and Olga of Cumberland :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/ohvleabg.jpg)

Viktoria Luise mit Prinzessin Franz von Bayern :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/pzinfranzvonbayern.jpg)

Viktoria Luise with Ernst August and King Louis III of Bavaria :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vicernstlouis3bavaria.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 22, 2010, 01:26:43 PM
VL in one of her Grandson`s wedding. Im not sure who he is but i know he s one of her grandsons

(http://i40.tinypic.com/r9pyye.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on April 24, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
Viktoria Luise in Hamburg, 1912 :

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3143/vlinh.jpg) (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/vlinh.jpg/)

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 24, 2010, 11:18:28 AM
Victoria Luise in a wedding of some people i cant identify. Can anyone tell me who are the groom and bride?

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6193/1231231l.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on April 24, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
Is that a young Prince Charles in the far left corner? I think Queen Anne Marie of Greece is standing in the front. The groom looks very like Prince Philip--perhaps a relation on that side of the family. If that's George Wilhem of Hanover (Victoria Louise's son) in the front, along with his wife, Philip's sister Sophie, perhaps one of Sophie's children?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 25, 2010, 09:22:48 AM
That s not prince Charles but Welf Hannover

http://i40.tinypic.com/r9pyye.jpg
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on April 25, 2010, 03:49:11 PM
Behind the groom are King Juan Carlos and Queen Sophia of Spain...
Behind the bride in the last row is Ludwig Prince of Hesse and the Rhine
Next to Victoria Luise is Philip Landgraf of Hesse and Margarita of Hohenlohe Langenburg
behind Philip is his son Heinrich Prince of Hesse
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on May 02, 2010, 09:44:30 AM
Viktoria luise walking the streets with one of his father teckeks :

(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6655/vlinb.jpg) (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/vlinb.jpg/)

The young Princess with her mother and her brother Prince Oscar :

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/67/coursing.jpg) (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/coursing.jpg/)

Viktoria Luise and her mother Auguste Viktoria :

(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/162/viktoialuis.jpg) (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/viktoialuis.jpg/)

With her brother August Wilhelm :

(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/1112/viaw.jpg) (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/viaw.jpg/)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 03, 2010, 09:40:50 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/21e3pxh.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on May 24, 2010, 08:58:55 AM
Ernst August and Viktoria Luise :

(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2550/ernstaugust2.jpg) (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/ernstaugust2.jpg/)

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7407/eav.jpg) (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/eav.jpg/)

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 24, 2010, 09:05:35 AM
Viktoria Luise mwith uncle Heinrich and aunt Irene

(http://i47.tinypic.com/21j3ot4.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on May 24, 2010, 09:56:14 AM
Viktoria Luise mwith uncle Heinrich and aunt Irene

(http://i47.tinypic.com/21j3ot4.jpg)

Curious picture, when she was taken ?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 24, 2010, 09:58:15 AM
Judging her clothes id say in early 1910s. late 1900s.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Olgasha on June 08, 2010, 08:21:20 AM
Victoria's sons
(http://static.akpool.de/images/cards/12/126678.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Olgasha on June 09, 2010, 06:55:35 AM
Prince Georg Wilhelm, son of Victoria Louise
(http://static.akpool.de/images/cards/16/167326.jpg)

Victoria Louise with baby

(http://static.akpool.de/images/cards/11/118840.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 09, 2010, 07:53:30 AM
Viktoria Louise in parade (BTW which were the colors of her uniform? Im planning to colorize a few of her and i want accuracy in her uniform)

(http://i50.tinypic.com/10yophf.jpg)


Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on June 09, 2010, 08:42:49 AM
This looks suspiciously like the black and white uniform of the'Death's Head' Hussars.

You should be able to find plenty of photographs of Victoria Louise and her father and eldest brother wearing it.

Regards

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 09, 2010, 08:51:47 AM
i have a lot but i wanst sure of the color of her uniform. Thanik you!
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on June 12, 2010, 12:02:49 PM
Next week, the QM2 departs from England for a crossing to New York. This gives pause to recall that it was the namesake ship of VL called the SS Viktoria Luise, that was the very first ship built for the express purpose of luxury cruising, launched in 1900. All previous ships that may have had expensive accomodations were overwhelmingly used for bulk transportation of people, goods, and mail.

Here is a photo of one of the luxury salons on the Viktoria Luise. Note the portrait of VL above the grand doorway.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/Photo-012-PrinzessinVictoriaLuise-K.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on June 12, 2010, 12:05:19 PM
Her ship had another "first"...a workout gym on board complete with a stationary bike. This image does not really seem as if it could be 110 years old.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/Photo-013-PrinzessinVictoriaLuise-T.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Marc on June 12, 2010, 04:08:08 PM
Thanks everybody for the answer. Now..whos the lady next to V.L in this picture?

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1482/67100707.jpg)





It is VL with Princess von Bismarck
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 13, 2010, 09:58:17 AM
thank you!!

This one is courtesy of Minnie from dinastias. A portrait of a little VL

(http://i49.tinypic.com/jkeowp.jpg)

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Olgasha on June 15, 2010, 02:20:45 AM
Victoria Louise with children
(http://static.akpool.de/images/cards/11/118843.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 15, 2010, 07:43:27 AM
Some sketches from VL wedding

This one was posted before but in small and with watermark

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2295/65sy.jpg)

Another

(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/25/58be.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Olgasha on June 15, 2010, 12:22:53 PM
Victoria Louise
(http://static.akpool.de/images/cards/11/118830.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 18, 2010, 08:15:51 AM
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8281/foto0063u.jpg) (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/foto0063u.jpg/)

V.L and Kyra Kyrillovna
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on June 18, 2010, 11:43:46 AM
interesting photo. VL looks very different to me.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Svetabel on June 22, 2010, 03:17:57 AM
VL in 1928

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/3f8e0621.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on June 22, 2010, 08:39:08 AM
Svetabel--you published 2 photos of Thyra & Olga on the other thread that look like they are from the same occasion and source. Was it a movie of some sort? It looks like there was a Hannover family vacation! : )  I think all 3 women look cute bundled up and smiling--very relaxed.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on June 22, 2010, 11:30:07 AM
On board Hohenzollern with her parents, brother and sister-inlaw Cecilie :

(http://img10.hostingpics.net/pics/312418cecilievickai.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=312418cecilievickai.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 22, 2010, 11:31:47 AM
Awesome Svetabel!!!. VL had such a lovely smile!!!
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on June 22, 2010, 01:56:31 PM
still wondering if the photo above with the flower-designed hat is really VL. Any concerns?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on June 22, 2010, 02:56:36 PM
I've seen her in a similar wrap and hat. Could be a bad angle?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Svetabel on June 22, 2010, 10:17:21 PM
Svetabel--you published 2 photos of Thyra & Olga on the other thread that look like they are from the same occasion and source. Was it a movie of some sort? It looks like there was a Hannover family vacation! : )  I think all 3 women look cute bundled up and smiling--very relaxed.

Yes, the photos are from short movies on the Hannovers. The VL and Thyra shots are actually one shot, I just cut the picture. They are walking through the Gmunden streets.There are  also Ernst August (VL spouse) and youngest children of the couple there. Olga's shot is from another movie.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 29, 2010, 07:47:21 PM
Thank you very much for posting some pics about her wedding! I've loked for some but unsucessfully :-) Are there photos of the same event?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on June 29, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
There aren't photos of her wedding, apparently--at least none I've ever seen reproduced in any book or contemporary magazine. I bought a postcard that showed her wedding dress on display in a store window and there are composite faux photos of her as a 'bride'. There was a lot of attention paid to her wedding at the time in both English and German magazines and zilch. There were a number of photos of her SsIL Cecile and Sophie in their bridal carriages but not official posed photos. We had discussed earlier that the latter generations of Hohenzollerns don't seem to have had their weddings photographed. Dona was photographed as a bride as was Irene. As for blood Hohenzollerns, Sophie was but Moretta (her first wedding), Mossy and Charlotte, I'm not sure. There were numerous sketches but no photographs. Later postwar Hohenzollerns were photographed--Cecile Jr, Wilhelm Jr, Louis Ferdinand & Kyra and so on.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 30, 2010, 11:30:38 AM
VL and Ernst. Courtesy of the ANNO

(http://i46.tinypic.com/6globl.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on June 30, 2010, 01:53:01 PM
A detail from that photo appears in this postcard:
(http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/47360/2326400010100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

This is fun, an artist's impression of them in the court theatre at Brunswick:
(http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/45449/2965524230100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

With eldest son (and dackel):
(http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/35972/2434044460100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 30, 2010, 01:58:11 PM
I love her smile. Its so cute!
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on June 30, 2010, 02:19:40 PM
Isn't it? Reminds me of this picture:
(http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/46701/2330364300100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 30, 2010, 03:31:03 PM
Thanks for the infromation about that there aren't photo of her wedding  (sad :-( ) anyways, thanks for the portraits.
the photo below is really lovely :-) She had a nice face
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on July 04, 2010, 11:44:48 AM
Victoria Luise and her grandchildren or great grandchildren :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/vickandggc.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on July 18, 2010, 11:50:14 AM
Viktoria Luise and Kira :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Viktoria%20Luise/kiravicluise.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on July 18, 2010, 09:38:56 PM
VL has always looked happy and cheerful in her photos. She was unique among royal familly members of europe and GB in that character. She always appeared lively, happy, full of life, eager to please, and a joy to be around.

Wilhelm saw in her much potential. I know she took her positions seriously, but it also seems she had an rare (among royals) sense of reality and self worth that led her to the type of dispostiion she displays in her pictures.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 19, 2010, 07:15:04 AM
Little VL (First time i see this one as cabinet card)


(http://i25.tinypic.com/350kpaa.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 04, 2010, 02:08:28 PM
A meddal with the image of Viktoria Louise and her husband
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/Medal.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 11, 2010, 07:45:33 AM
V.L with her mother and Queen Mary of England

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8816/img0085by.jpg) (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/img0085by.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on September 28, 2010, 03:37:38 PM
Beautiful portrait of Viktoria Luise :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/603573viklg.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=603573viklg.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 28, 2010, 03:46:15 PM
i own a copy of this postcard and i have it in my dressing table ^^

Baby Viktoria

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/2314/strt.jpg) (http://img545.imageshack.us/i/strt.jpg/)

 

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on September 29, 2010, 10:46:34 AM
The one in the carriage was probably taken when the German Imperial Family visited London for the unveiling of the statue to Queen Victoria.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: violetta on October 07, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
the palace in braunschweig (may be a little off topic)

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/264-1.jpg)

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/260-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: violetta on October 07, 2010, 03:01:04 PM
(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/265.jpg)


(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/261.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on October 07, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
This was VL's home for many years. The interior now is a shopping mall.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: violetta on October 08, 2010, 09:48:57 AM
This was VL's home for many years. The interior now is a shopping mall.

I was surprised to find out that it was a shopping mall (I was in Bunschwick in July).Such a waste! It is as if the city had intentionally got rid of its past!!! :(
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on October 08, 2010, 10:46:17 AM
This was VL's home for many years. The interior now is a shopping mall.

I was surprised to find out that it was a shopping mall (I was in Bunschwick in July).Such a waste! It is as if the city had intentionally got rid of its past!!! :(

The palace was almost completely destroyed in the war. It's prime location offered more to the city as a shopping destination than a historical site where tourists would hopefully come to see a restored palace. I don't think the city was intend on erasing the memory of the Hannovers or Vikoria Luise in particular, but the decision was financial along with serving the larger population of locals who will benefit from the retail mall.

I wish they had done both--utilized a portion for retail shops and restored a portion of the original palace. Seems to me that would have created a better means of maximizing the value of the location and historical prominence.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: violetta on October 08, 2010, 10:51:00 AM
This was VL's home for many years. The interior now is a shopping mall.

I was surprised to find out that it was a shopping mall (I was in Bunschwick in July).Such a waste! It is as if the city had intentionally got rid of its past!!! :(

The palace was almost completely destroyed in the war. It's prime location offered more to the city as a shopping destination than a historical site where tourists would hopefully come to see a restored palace. I don't think the city was intend on erasing the memory of the Hannovers or Vikoria Luise in particular, but the decision was financial along with serving the larger population of locals who will benefit from the retail mall.

I wish they had done both--utilized a portion for retail shops and restored a portion of the original palace. Seems to me that would have created a better means of maximizing the value of the location and historical prominence.

I didn`t mean that the authrities did it deliberately i.e. deliberately destroying their town`s past. Rather, it was thoughtless. I know that financial prosperity does matter  but it`s a pity that they decided that economic well-being was more important in this case.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on October 08, 2010, 05:13:06 PM
This was VL's home for many years. The interior now is a shopping mall.

I was surprised to find out that it was a shopping mall (I was in Bunschwick in July).Such a waste! It is as if the city had intentionally got rid of its past!!! :(

The palace was almost completely destroyed in the war. It's prime location offered more to the city as a shopping destination than a historical site where tourists would hopefully come to see a restored palace. I don't think the city was intend on erasing the memory of the Hannovers or Vikoria Luise in particular, but the decision was financial along with serving the larger population of locals who will benefit from the retail mall.

I wish they had done both--utilized a portion for retail shops and restored a portion of the original palace. Seems to me that would have created a better means of maximizing the value of the location and historical prominence.

I didn`t mean that the authrities did it deliberately i.e. deliberately destroying their town`s past. Rather, it was thoughtless. I know that financial prosperity does matter  but it`s a pity that they decided that economic well-being was more important in this case.
Right. The trade offs between historical preservation/rebuilding and economic growth plaques much of worldwide urban as well as rural development. It would have been wonderful for those of us who love historically important buildings and events to have had the palace rebuilt as the home of the dukes of Braunschweig. Ironically, the substantial loss of historical buildings in Germany during WWII and the subsequent rebuilds, such as in this case, that do not bring back the past should have been a good lesson to the world that historic structures are worth maintaining. But, from London to Chicago, New York to Shanghai, etc. new, modern structures are replacing wonderful buildings that should have been kept.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on October 08, 2010, 05:14:04 PM
Have we had this picture of the young VL with her mother in Venice?

(http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/8528/2923732560100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on October 08, 2010, 07:49:35 PM
Haven't seen that before. thanks! GREAT photo of Dona and VL. They look wonderful; at their regal best.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 09, 2010, 06:53:03 AM
A not so happy journal with papa

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9157/xe55.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Adagietto on October 09, 2010, 07:05:00 AM
That's one is funny, they look quite awkward.

I have the postcard of that, here is a scan of the full picture (though it doesn't show the detail as well):
(http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/42294/2889342070100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on October 13, 2010, 01:27:24 PM
Viktoria Luise mit Fredericka :

(http://img10.hostingpics.net/pics/955941vlfa.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=955941vlfa.jpg)

(http://img10.hostingpics.net/pics/928792vlf.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=928792vlf.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 13, 2010, 03:33:46 PM
smiling VL with Ernst and Fredericke

(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3974/22460170.jpg) (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/22460170.jpg/)

 

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on October 29, 2010, 02:22:15 PM
Viktoria Luise and her family :

(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/501580famj.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=501580famj.jpg)

(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/130734wfdeab.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=130734wfdeab.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 24, 2010, 11:53:48 AM
Lovely engagement card (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrsfujita/4712346626/)
With a traditional german suit
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/ViktoriaLuoisa.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 24, 2010, 12:12:10 PM
She's actually in Greek costume, probably on a visit to her father's villa in Crete.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on November 24, 2010, 12:14:38 PM
Yes, Greek.  The photo's caption so notes.  Regards,  AP.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 24, 2010, 12:48:40 PM
oopss!! You're right!! I'm really sorry... don't understand german well  :-[ Thanks for correction!!
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on November 24, 2010, 02:22:36 PM
She's actually in Greek costume, probably on a visit to her father's villa in Crete.


This was at Achillon but the palace is on the island of Corfu just east of the heel of the Italian boot, not Crete.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: ashdean on November 24, 2010, 03:01:07 PM
She's actually in Greek costume, probably on a visit to her father's villa in Crete.
Wasn't his villa on Corfu?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: ashdean on November 24, 2010, 03:04:29 PM
Viktoria Luise and her family :

(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/501580famj.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=501580famj.jpg)

(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/130734wfdeab.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=130734wfdeab.jpg)
They always look a happy and devoted family....sad that there was a breach over money after the Duke's death.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 25, 2010, 04:55:21 AM
Viktoria Louise in the wedding of her grandson Georg Hannover with Victorian Anne Bee.  September 15 1973

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4861/1949georghannoverxvicto.jpg) (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/1949georghannoverxvicto.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on November 25, 2010, 05:34:18 AM
She looks tiny in that picture. Was she always very small, or had she shrunk by then?

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on January 04, 2011, 12:08:05 PM
(http://thumb10.webshots.net/t/55/555/2/50/25/2162250250100532270GpLcMR_th.jpg) (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2162250250100532270GpLcMR)

(http://thumb10.webshots.net/t/82/182/6/82/78/2802682780100532270lCHldl_th.jpg) (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2802682780100532270lCHldl)

Courtesy webshots.com
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on February 21, 2011, 01:21:49 PM
Little Viktoria Louise with her brother
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/VictorianGowns/viktorialuisayhermano.jpg)
Little Viktoria Louise with her nephew
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/VictorianGowns/VLnephew.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Svetabel on April 11, 2011, 05:04:48 AM
Victoria Luise in a wedding of some people i cant identify. Can anyone tell me who are the groom and bride?

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6193/1231231l.jpg)

That's 1966. The groom is Prince Karl of Hesse (1937-), son of Prince Christoph and Sophie of Greece. His bride is Countess Ilona Szapary de Muraszombath (spelling?  )
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Alexander1917 on April 12, 2011, 04:58:47 PM
She's actually in Greek costume, probably on a visit to her father's villa in Crete.
Wasn't his villa on Corfu?

true, former home of Empress Elisabeth of Austria, the Achilleion see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achilleion_(Corfu)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on April 12, 2011, 07:49:46 PM
She's actually in Greek costume, probably on a visit to her father's villa in Crete.


This was at Achillon but the palace is on the island of Corfu just east of the heel of the Italian boot, not Crete.

FYI....
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Gabriella on April 13, 2011, 02:48:26 PM
Lovely engagement card (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrsfujita/4712346626/)
With a traditional german suit
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/ViktoriaLuoisa.jpg)

Thanks for posting that picture of Viktoria-Luise in that lovely greek costume.

What a striking resemblance with her granddaughter Sophia Queen of Spain.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 02, 2011, 01:29:02 PM
The famous portrait of her by Lazlo, now in color (form the German site harz-saale)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/viktoria_luise_04_jpg_1.png)
Viktoria Louise as teen
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/5146572552_1eb7fe9323.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 14, 2011, 01:32:40 PM
This was posted a while, but now we can see here a bit more of her skirt
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/AK_12039405_gr_1.jpg)
Portrait
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/AK_20061834_gr_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on July 17, 2011, 10:10:06 AM
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/954074Sanstitre.png) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=954074Sanstitre.png)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on January 13, 2012, 12:18:20 PM
Princess Victoria Louise with her parents in Saalburg, 1913 :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/727896saalburg1913.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=727896saalburg1913.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on June 02, 2012, 05:26:16 AM
Viktoria Luise and Princess Eitel Friedrich :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/996291viceite.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=996291viceite.jpg)

I wonder what were her relations with her sisters-in-law and with whom she got along better ?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on January 19, 2013, 07:57:35 AM
The duchess of Brunswick and her first one been born Ernst august in 1914 :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/343850vasx.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=343850vasx.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on February 23, 2013, 07:31:16 AM
Victoria Louise and her family around 1919 :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/7433131920vlea.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=7433131920vlea.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on March 06, 2013, 04:42:35 PM
Are there any celebrations, memorials, or other events planned for the 100th anniversary of the wedding of VL this coming May?
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on March 08, 2013, 11:19:35 AM
Answered my own question:  there will be an exhibition commemorating the anniversary of the wedding at the Schlossmuseum in Braunschweig from May 24 until September 10. The nearby Braunschweigisches Landesmuseum presents an exhibition entitled "1913 – Happy Modern Times" from May 28 until March 30, 2104, in which this wedding will also be focused on.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on March 09, 2013, 10:10:58 PM
HK--you will enjoy this:
 
http://kreuzberged.com/2012/06/01/today-in-kreuzberg-may-21st-22nd-23rd/

It contains links to videos showing the wedding carriage processions (in color!) and one in which VL talks about her wedding (in German but there are photos as well.)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on March 10, 2013, 03:00:24 PM
Thanks Gdella! Not only is the color footage interesting from the VL wedding/history perspective, it impressively notable how early the German film industry was at the forefront of technology.

From the film, it looks like the staging for the procession was in and around Pariser platz near the Brandenburg Gate. Then they made their way down Unter den Linden to the palace and cathedral. It also appears that the departure point may have been the Hotel Adlon. Since most guests would have stayed there (WII financed the elegant hotel which had nicer and more modern suites than the palaces of the day) it makes sense to have the parade begin from that point. Certainly was a big event.

the second link in which VL speaks about her wedding has been blocked. I couldn't find a source online for a view; thoughts?

thanks again!
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on March 11, 2013, 03:32:02 AM
Sounds like an interesting exhibition. how easy is Braunschweig to get to from the UK?

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on March 11, 2013, 03:32:20 PM
Sounds like an interesting exhibition. how easy is Braunschweig to get to from the UK?

Ann

The city, like most mid-to-large-sized cities in Germany is quite easy to get to by automobile or train or connecting air flights. It's essentially in the middle of the triangle formed by Berlin, Hamburg, and Frankfurt. The surrounding countrysides, towns, and villages are often jewels, such as Goslar and Hannoversch Munden.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on March 12, 2013, 04:00:47 AM
Many thanks.

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on May 24, 2013, 01:20:45 AM
Congratulations to Victoria Luise and Ernst August on the 100th anniversary of their wedding day.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on May 29, 2013, 11:11:57 PM
This was posted a while, but now we can see here a bit more of her skirt
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/AK_12039405_gr_1.jpg)

Here is the colorized, full portrait version of the previously posted photo. This color print is about 4'x3' and in a large gold frame. It hangs at a museum in Braunschweig. The blue highlight is a reflection off the glass, not part of the image.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/3c3e54fe-e756-4b57-a167-a55b1145343a.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on May 29, 2013, 11:20:24 PM
Her wedding tiara is currently on display at the Landesmuseum's exhibit on 1913.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/2daa8d18-d8fe-44ff-9fbf-47dea85eca97.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on May 29, 2013, 11:24:40 PM
Large portraits of both VL and EA are at the entry area of the exhibit.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/IMG_2262.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Marc on May 31, 2013, 03:59:24 AM
Beautiful photos HerrKaiser,thank you for sharing them...

Is there maybe any better picture of EA? Too bad one can't see the painting in whole :(
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on May 31, 2013, 06:52:07 PM
Here's a better image of the EA portrait as well as VL. Both done by the same painter, Gustav Rienacher.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/1913_Portrait_Ernst_August.jpg)

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/1913_Portrait_Viktoria_Louise_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on May 31, 2013, 06:53:18 PM
Their engagement photo on February 14, 1913:

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/00df5094-5336-4449-a785-dac91a1df8e3.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on May 31, 2013, 06:57:01 PM
And, the Torch Dance, a traditional German wedding celebration ceremony that has become common practice around the world (except the torches have been replaced by hankerchiefs, ribbons etc) where the bride is led to the dance floor and begins the dance with her father. Then the groom and his mother followed by other parents trading partners etc until the immediate family is all dancing surrounded by footmen holding large torches.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/VLandEA.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Marc on May 31, 2013, 07:39:50 PM
HerrKaiser,just WOW.

I always get impressed when I see such beautiful photos and something I don't have the chance to see every day...

If you have the chance to post some more-doesn't matter in which topic,I am really looking forward...

So far,one BIG thank you :)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: HerrKaiser on June 02, 2013, 11:33:22 PM
Thanks Marc; you're welcome. Here is the actual telegram sent by Nickolas and Alexandra to Willhelm on the engagement of Victoria Luise. Sorry for the out-of-focus photo; camera auto focus through glass was wrong.

The text reads in english, "Delighted to hear good news and wish (?) daughter every blessing and happiness. Love to Victoria. Alix, Nicky"

You can see it was sent from Tsarskoe Selo palace.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/5d4c09f8-cb71-4078-a84e-9f7aa81f992e.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 24, 2013, 12:21:51 PM
Found a bit less yellowish verssion of the lovely portrait of reply  #225, sadly it was small and could not enlarge it as much as I wanted without damaging the pic, anyways, here it goes:

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/PrinzessinVL_zpse23fc80c.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/PrinzessinVL_zpse23fc80c.jpg.html)

Source: preussen.de (http://www.preussen.de/de/heute/aktuell/braunschweiger_ausstellungen_zum_themenjahr_1913_eroeffnet.html)

Wonderful new material HerrKaiser, the tiara is very beautiful as well as the portraits and illustrations, thanks for sharing! :-)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 24, 2013, 01:11:37 PM
The wedding of Viktoria Louise of Prussia
*****This image is courtesy: ndr.de (http://www.ndr.de/kultur/kunst_und_ausstellungen/niedersachsen/braunschweig3225.html) *****

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/ndrde_zpsa574bf8a.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/ndrde_zpsa574bf8a.jpg.html)

A bit bigger here!! (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/ndrde_zpsa574bf8a.jpg)


I know that this was mentioned a few pages before, but I wonder if anyone has a better verssion of this portrait (not minding if it is only in b&w) of Viktoria Louisa that was located on a ship that was named after her. These are the only two views of the portrait that I have ever seen.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/SSVL_zpsedb2531f.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/SSVL_zpsedb2531f.jpg.html)

A bit bigger here! (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/SSVL_zpsedb2531f.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on July 25, 2013, 04:30:33 AM
Is the small boy in the sailor suit next to the Empress the Crown Prince's eldest son Wilhelm? If so, the rather indistinct child behind him is presumably the next sibling.

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on August 17, 2013, 07:04:33 AM
Victoria Louise and Ernst August with Fredericka and Paul of Greece :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/846107greecebrunswick.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=846107greecebrunswick.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: thebelgianhare on July 14, 2017, 07:16:03 PM
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2j17eqx.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2qsxd8y.jpg)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/24e6cgk.jpg)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/201bis.jpg)

Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on August 27, 2017, 09:43:19 AM
Is the boy in the Eton collar Oskar or Joachim? I think it looks more like Joachim, but I'm  not certain.

Any idea who is the third person walking with VL and EA? It looks rather like Oskar, but again I'm not certain. Clearly a pre-war picture, from the uniforms  the two men are wearing.

Ann
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 01, 2017, 07:14:08 PM
Yes the boy in the last picture ia Joachim (as written below) and yes, the third one walking with VL and her, then, fiance, is Oskar.
Title: Re: Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick Part II
Post by: Kalafrana on September 03, 2017, 04:02:30 AM
Ah, my eyesight! Even with reading glasses I can't manage small print these days.

In the picture with her mother, VL's resemblance to her father is very obvious.

Ann