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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Danish Royal Family => Topic started by: Marc on October 16, 2009, 09:06:09 AM

Title: Identification?
Post by: Marc on October 16, 2009, 09:06:09 AM
I posted this also on Scandinavian board but I don't think anyone payed notice to it...I think that this woman might be from to Danish or Swedish royal family...or maybe either Bernadotte or Rosenborg...anyone?

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Cwho.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Svetabel on November 03, 2009, 07:00:37 AM
Marc, why exactly Bernadotte or Rosenborg? How was the painting labelled ?

The style of the dress is of 1915-1920 years I'd say.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Condecontessa on August 12, 2010, 03:06:40 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread so I will use this one. I have searched all the Danish royal Family section and can't find anything that will help me identify some of the people in Tuxen's Painting of the family. (The one with King Christian and Queen Louise). Can someone please help me identify the people in that painting? I have found a post by Grandduchessella in the "Portraits of Eddy" thread that identifies the children the right of the painting. I know that King Edward, Queen Alexandra and Prince Eddy is on the left, who's the children reading after them? If someone can identify from left to right will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Condecontessa on August 12, 2010, 03:37:26 PM
And also, how come Princess Marie of Orleans is not included in the painting? As well as her children?
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 12, 2010, 03:43:33 PM
According this postcard based in the portrait, Marie is there as "princess Valdemar"

(http://cent.ans.free.fr/pj1891/pj04426091891b.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Condecontessa on August 12, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
Katenka, I don't see her in that painting. The princess holding a baby is actually Princess Thyra. Am I right or was it a misidentification?
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 12, 2010, 05:00:35 PM
yes, thats her with baby Olga. I dont know...i will try to find a bigger version to see if Marie is there ;-)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: kmerov on August 12, 2010, 05:10:56 PM
Prince Valdemar was not marrid to Princess Marie when the portrait was painted, that is why she is not there or any of their children, naturally.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: kmerov on August 12, 2010, 05:20:09 PM
The children from left are Princess Ingeborg and Prince Harald of Denmark, Prince Georg and Princess Marie-Louise of Hannover and the baby Thyra is holding is Princess Alexandra. The painting is from 1883 by the way.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 12, 2010, 06:32:47 PM
Was baby Alexandra? i sweared it was baby Olga 0_o

http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/04/2006/hm4_1_143_3.html
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Condecontessa on August 12, 2010, 06:40:41 PM
Thank you kmerov and katenka!!!!! You guys have been so helpful. That explains why Princess Marie is not included in the painting. Who is the child Aunt Swan is with? And also where is Xenia in the painting? Is she the one wearing the dress with the red trim? Thanks again in advance. :)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 12, 2010, 06:48:54 PM
You welcome ^^

I was looking at the hermitage and weird that they labeled the baby as Olga when she was born in 1884 a year after that portrait was painted 0_o

Abue Ksenia...i think she s  on the right with a group of kids , not sure tho!

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/271/27257540.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: kmerov on August 12, 2010, 06:50:18 PM
Was baby Alexandra? i sweared it was baby Olga 0_o

http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/04/2006/hm4_1_143_3.html

Well, it's a bit tricky. The big portrait was painted (or Tuxen began painting) in 1883, and Alexandra was born in 1882. Olga was born in 1884. The picture from the hermitage is from 1885. The baby in both pictures look very much the same with the same pose. Most I'D the baby Thyra is holding in the group picture as Alexandra.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: kmerov on August 12, 2010, 06:57:54 PM
Thank you kmerov and katenka!!!!! You guys have been so helpful. That explains why Princess Marie is not included in the painting. Who is the child Aunt Swan is with? And also where is Xenia in the painting? Is she the one wearing the dress with the red trim? Thanks again in advance. :)

You are welcome.
The child with Aunt Swan is Princess Thyra of Denmark.
Xenia is the second last child on the right, between Maud of Wales and Louise of Denmark.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Tuxen/2parrTux.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Condecontessa on August 13, 2010, 06:30:08 PM
Another question, who is the boy with the group dressed in navy blue sailor suit writing something on the table? GrandDuchessella stated that it was GD George of Russia but I think he's next to Tsarevich Nicholas.
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 13, 2010, 08:42:39 PM
You re right. Georguy is next to Nicholas beside Maria Fyodorovna ;-D
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Post by: kmerov on August 14, 2010, 05:09:45 PM
No, the boy with the book (not writing) is GD George Alexandrovich.
The boy in blue next to MF is Nicholas Alexandrovich. The boy in white is Prince Christian (X), he stands behind King Christian IX.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: kmerov on August 14, 2010, 05:13:14 PM
The single portrait of GD Nicholas by Tuxen.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Tuxen/NicholasII1883.jpg)

The single portrait of Prince Christian (X) by Tuxen.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Tuxen/PrinceChristianX1883.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 14, 2010, 06:29:23 PM
Thanks you!! i always thought that both brothers were together in that portrait.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Condecontessa on August 14, 2010, 08:45:32 PM
 Thank you so much kmerov. I only saved a tiny version of the tuxen painting and I thought that GD George was writing!!!! :) :)

I'm still having a hard time finding GD Xenia in the painting.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: kmerov on August 15, 2010, 01:28:22 PM
You are welcome. Xenia is the girl with a pink trim on her dress.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Tuxen/th_2parrTux.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Tuxen/2parrTux.jpg)

The other half of the picture.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Tuxen/th_1parttux.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Tuxen/1parttux.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Condecontessa on August 15, 2010, 04:06:51 PM
Thank you kmerov. Ok, the group of children on the right of the painting is from left to right: Princess Marie of Greece holding the book, Princess Louise of Wales, I don't know the child wearing the white sailor suit, GD George Alexandrovich in blue sailor suit reading, Princess Victoria standing, Princess Maud, GD Xenia and Princess Louise of Denmark wearing the dress with red trimming. Please correct me if I'm wrong and can you identify the boy with the white sailor suit behind GD George? Again, thank you so much. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: kmerov on August 15, 2010, 04:32:13 PM
You are welcome, and you are correct!
The boy dressed in a white sailor suit is Prince Carl of Denmark.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on September 26, 2011, 04:13:20 PM
Labelled as Children of King Frederick VIII of Denmark, but i'm not sure since the 6th and 7th children have a a few years age gap.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/A%20Imperial%20Album/6158910048_066215d519_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: grandduchessella on September 26, 2011, 05:17:32 PM
I think it's an assortment of his grandchildren--I believe Margarethe of Sweden (daughter of Ingeborg) and the future Frederick IX (son of Christian X) are in the group.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on September 26, 2011, 07:26:27 PM
thank you Ella :)
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Svetabel on September 27, 2011, 05:02:47 AM
Yes, they are grandchildren of Fredrik VIII - children of his son Christian and daughters Lovisa and Ingeborg.
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: joerookery on October 10, 2011, 02:03:34 PM
Does anyone know who this might be?

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5005/5309864921_aea5ea4a36_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joerookery/5309864921/)
ps318 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joerookery/5309864921/) by joerookery (http://www.flickr.com/people/joerookery/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Identification?
Post by: Marc on February 29, 2012, 02:27:01 PM
Portrait of a believed to be Danish Princess:

http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/j-leans-oil-on-canvas-bust-portrait-of-a-12-u-423a380732

Any Scandinavian expert?