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Title: Hviodore
Post by: Chris Snyder on February 09, 2004, 07:43:45 PM
Does anyone know if the summer house of the Dowager Empress Marie and her sister Alexandra is still standing, or who may own it?  It was in Denmark and called Hviodore.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: BobAtchison on February 10, 2004, 02:41:52 PM
It was sold some time ago and is in private hands.  Maybe someone can tell us more.

Bob
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Nick Nicholson on February 11, 2004, 10:02:57 AM
Bob,

According to the late Alexander Romanov, Hvidore was sold through great difficulty (it was jointly owned by GDsses Olga and Xenia, and the British Royal Family) and has passed through many hands.  He had heard that the house had been altered beyond recognition on the inside (this was in 1996.)

Nick
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Greg_King on February 12, 2004, 02:23:09 AM
Hvidore was sold in July, 1929 to Jacob Koefoed, a former wine merchant, while the contents has been sold at auction a few months earlier.  At one time it served as a clinic.  Now it serves as a conference center for the Novo-Nordsik Pharmaceutical Company.  Not a lot remains inside of the original layout-the rooms are largely still there, and there are some architectural details, but substantial changes have been made.  In the last few years (perhaps as many as 6-8, I can't recall) there were several articles by Coryne Hall, published in "Royalty Digest," that contained a number of photographs of the rooms as used by the Dowager Empress and Queen Alexandra.  And in the October, 2003 issue of "Majesty Magazine," Coryne also wrote about the house, and the article contains a number of photographs showing the Dowager Empress's rooms.

Greg King
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Chris Snyder on February 12, 2004, 03:21:51 PM
Thanks alot Greg for all of this information!  I am glad to hear that the last residence of the Dowager Empress is still standing.  Do you know how I might go about getting the publications you mentioned?  I am very curious to see additional photos.  I have seen only a few of them so far and the house looked just lovely, so I would like to see more.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Janet_Ashton on February 13, 2004, 03:24:45 PM
To Chris Snyder re. the magazines: -

both these publications have websites:


www.majestymagazine.com

www.picrare.com for Royalty Digest.

I don't subscribe to either since royalty generally isn't really my "thing", but I've heard nothing but excellent reports of Royalty Digest - and both magazines do back issues, I think, with contact details on the websites

Janet
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Thomas_A. on April 29, 2004, 11:24:08 AM

You say that the Dowager Empress owned Hvidore together with her sister Queen Alexandra.

Did they inherit it from their parents or what else caused that?
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Sarai on April 29, 2004, 11:52:11 AM
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You say that the Dowager Empress owned Hvidore together with her sister Queen Alexandra. Did they inherit it from their parents or what else caused that?


I have always read that the sisters purchased the house together, so it was not an inheritance. As to the history of the house and who they purchased it from, I don't have any details.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: kirsten blæsborg on April 29, 2004, 12:57:46 PM
I know abourt Hvidøre, and it is still standing indeed!
I live in Copenhagen not far from Hvidøre and I think it is now a clinic for diabetics.
Kirsten Blæsborg
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: BobAtchison on April 29, 2004, 01:02:35 PM
Maybe we can find a volunteer to write a page for us on Hviodore?

Bob
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Sarai on April 29, 2004, 02:05:01 PM
This website (http://www.hvidoeregroup.org) is from the group that now uses Hvidøre. There is a picture of the house on the main page. On the site it states: "Hvidøre is a stately country mansion, which for 50 years was used as the Novo diabetes hospital. It is now a training and conference centre owned by Novo Nordisk A/S, which works in partnership with the study group." Novo Nordisk is a healthcare company specializing in diabetes care. They have owned Hvidøre since 1937.

PS - Sometimes the page doesn't load. If the link doesn't seem to be working, you can still see it if you go to Google and type Hvidøre. It is the first site that appears (make sure you type Hvidøre exactly and not Hvidore). Click on "cache" to see the site.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Sarai on May 07, 2004, 01:28:51 PM
Here is a brief history of Hvidøre house

Origin of the name:"Hvidøre originally meant 'a white gravelly beach,' and refers to the sandy spit of land at the foot of the cliff on which the house now stands, overlooking the blue waters of the Øresund dividing Denmark from southern Sweden."

History of the house: The house was built on the site of a centuries-old royal castle that was demolished in 1871 by Counsellor Frederik Bruun. In its place, Mr. Bruun built a mansion as a summer residence for his family, known as Hvidøre. The architect of the house was Johan Schrøder. The house blended features from the English and Italian Renaissance, with details taken from classical Greek architecture.

Counsellor Bruun died in 1887, but the house was kept by his widow until 1906, when she put it up for sale. It was then bought by Queen Alexandra and her sister Empress Marie. They lived in the house every year from September to November until the outbreak of WWI.

Marie was exiled there in 1919 and lived there until her death in 1928. As Greg King explained in an earlier post, the house was sold in 1929 to a Mr. Jacob Koefoed. He owned it until 1937, when the Novo pharmaceutical company purchased it to convert it into a diabetic sanatorium. In 1949, it became a diabetes hospital and research facility, which lasted until 1992. It is now a training and conference centre still owned by Novo.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: akjfin on June 08, 2004, 09:31:48 AM
Hi!
I am sure you have already learned more about H-v-i-d-o-r-e, where Empress Dagmar, as the Danish call her, lived until her death in 1926.
Yes, the house still exists. After MF and Queen Alexandra, the house was sold to a private owner and in 1939 it was bought by Novo, a medical company and turned into a sanatorium for diabetics under the name Hvidore Hospital. In 1970 the house was extended again but "in style" so that the original house still looks untouched, so to speak.
Lived in Denmark for 4 years and passed the house on "Strandvejen", the coastal boulevard, quite often and admired it each time!
Regards,
akjfin
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: akjfin on June 08, 2004, 09:34:06 AM
And oops, of course, stupid me - should have looked further down! Much more info there -.
akjfin
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: NAAOTMA on August 28, 2004, 12:42:23 PM
Just finished the book LITTLE MOTHER OF RUSSIA which has lots and lots of info on Hvidore. One of the pieces of information I was charmed by is the following: when Alexandra and Dagmar were redecorating, they had the saying "East is East, West is West, Home Is Best" inscribed on the fireplace of one of the downstairs rooms-off the top of my head I think it was the billiard room. Two ladies who got joy and pleasure from nesting in this place that was totally their own. Melissa K.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: kenneth elliott on August 28, 2004, 01:00:54 PM
I have a number of fotos gleaned from the Polfoto image sale site. I do not know te legalities of sending them on. They seem to have been taken when it was empty of furnishings and before it's becoming a medical institution. The East West motto over the arts and crafts era fireplace is visible.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: NAAOTMA on August 29, 2004, 12:28:39 AM
Joanna, loved the "happy snaps" including the one of Reval (Tallinn, Estonia) which I just got back from and saw the same view on the ferry as it arrived with us from Helsinki! Thanks for providing this link! Melissa K.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: NAAOTMA on August 29, 2004, 02:44:39 PM
Joanna,

Yes, it was a beautiful remembrance! One to treasure. Melissa K.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: kenneth_elliott on September 29, 2004, 08:48:53 PM
It is possible to search the POLFOTO site freely in English. I used the words Klampenborg, Dyrehaven, Bellevue, and the Danish word for empress(kjserinde I think). Sorry to be so late in reply. Cheers.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: kenneth_elliott on September 29, 2004, 10:04:42 PM
I haven't seen those. Sigh and hint.  I imagine they furnished the house with things that were their personal items either by gift purchase or inheritance. The Royal Ontario Museum has a huge 18th century silver teapot  from her. Royalties seem to have a very definte idea even today as to what belongs to the crown and what they can call their stuff.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: kenneth_elliott on September 30, 2004, 09:25:13 AM
I am sorry to tell you it is not a Veedorree subject, but seems to have been a 1909 present(first wedding?) from Queen Alexandra and Maria Feo to Grand Duchess Alexandrovna. It seems to be a personal possession that did survive transportation and exile to arrive in Canada quite naturally. Here is the URL:

http://www.rom.on.ca/art-design/silver/danishteapot.htlm

I will try to be more accurate. The ROM net listings doesn't mention any other objects. I believe the maker Michaelsen is now considered among the great silversmiths internationally.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: amedeo on April 26, 2005, 02:10:26 AM
Is Havidore near Copenhagen?
and is there somebody who knows how Havidore is pronounced correctly?
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Forum Admin on April 26, 2005, 09:32:28 AM


 A Danish user told us that Hvidøre is pronounced "Vih-deer"
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Daniel Briere on April 27, 2005, 12:05:56 AM
Amadeo, Hvidøre ( now a Conference Center for Novo Nordisk Pharmaceuticals) is indeed near Copenhagen. It’s located in Klampenborg, now a Northern suburb of Copenhagen, on the shore of the Øresund (the straight between Denmark and Sweden). It’s a 20 minute train-ride from downtown Copenhagen.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=DK&formtype=address&addtohistory=&location=PovAsDBrchPFqwdCAoPdvkJeoeVIf%2fVPilnqcLcAZvYwBH5VyhgOEG57NFBHKRtRRlOWVlejkLLAhKe4UP5L5gLiYSEFexxDBV8ihv616wgykfKKOT1pMsh2zzC%2bjE6MDndEdStMGBE%3d


Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: amedeo on April 27, 2005, 02:20:24 AM
Thank you very much for your informations!

bye bye
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Reco on June 11, 2005, 04:02:55 PM
Hviodore

(http://img194.echo.cx/img194/8262/hvidreimghospital9mk.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)(http://)
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Joanna on July 23, 2005, 04:24:33 PM
Many thanks Reco for the amazing aerial view of Hvidore!

A view from the road:

http://netkontor.dk/cphfboom/fullres/cph03.3243.2003-0511hvidore1.jpg

Joanna
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: dp5486 on March 21, 2006, 07:16:15 PM
I was wondering if anyone knew who, besides Alexandra and Maria Feodorovna, had rooms at Hvidore?

I know that Alexandra had a billiard room created for Edward VII. I was wondering if anyone like Miss Knollys, Sir Probyn, Toria, Princess Obolensky, Countess Mengden, or anybody else who were close to one of the sisters had a room or rooms reserved for them in the villa.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Joanna on November 22, 2006, 09:26:01 PM
Exterior photograph of Hvidore:
http://anichkov.spb.ru/Pictures/big2517571159174963.jpg

Interior photograph:
http://anichkov.spb.ru/Pictures/big771921159174997.jpg

Joanna

Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Windsor on January 22, 2008, 01:47:37 PM
I have always been curious about Hvidore and how the former empress lived during her final years.  Naturally, after the grand palaces of Russia this was certainly a change.  However, did she feel happy at Hvidore?  Did she consider it a mansion (as it surley was and is)?  Did she feel it befitted her station in life?

Also, any additional information about the house itself would be greatly appreciated.  Such as, how big is it?  How many rooms & levels?  Was it considered a "modern" house?  How many servants were requried to run the house?  Did its size allow for guests and entertaining?

Thanks in advance for any information!
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: dmitri on January 22, 2008, 06:29:01 PM
This was the home she had built with her sister Alexandra. It still exists and is situated on the coast road that leads up to Kronborg. It has had some extensions added to the orginal. The garden though is still quite delightful. It is hardly as large as any of the Romanov palaces in Russia though it is far from being a tiny cottage. It is closed to the public. You will find plenty of information and photos on Hvidore in the book listed below. It also included other residences that Maria Feodorovna lived in.

Empress Maria Feodorovna's Favourite Residences in Russia and Denmark, by Galina Korneva and Tatiana Cheboksarova, Liki Rossi, St.Petersburg, 2006

Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Mari on January 28, 2008, 04:24:53 AM
More pictures inside Hvidore
http://books.google.com/books?id=e_fJD9z3SrkC&pg=PA238-IA1&dq=Hvidore+home+of+Empress+Maria+in+Denmark&ei=26ydR5GpA5O0yQSOjpmvCQ&sig=HufpvF4g1wNzAAoAz17S0UC1nIQ
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Peter_I on January 30, 2008, 06:59:34 AM
Can someone find pictures of villa Hvidøre, where the Doweger empress Maria Feodorovna spent the last years of her life? If you have pictures of villa Hvidøreтук, please post them here! Thank you!
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: dmitri on January 30, 2008, 09:45:26 AM
I think you will find if you do a search of earlier threads photos of Hvidore.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: viv rosendahl on February 03, 2008, 06:15:30 AM
Hvidøre, as it used to be:
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/vivrh/hvidre2.jpg)

and as it is today:

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/vivrh/hvidre.jpg)
(from the website of the present owner, Novo Nordisk )

Viv
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Ena on February 03, 2008, 03:33:24 PM
I have always been curious about Hvidore and how the former empress lived during her final years.  Naturally, after the grand palaces of Russia this was certainly a change.  However, did she feel happy at Hvidore?  Did she consider it a mansion (as it surley was and is)?  Did she feel it befitted her station in life?

From the book A Royal Family --

Hvidore was like a cottage compared to the palaces they usually lived in, and the sisters had to flip a coin to divide what few rooms there were.  Still, it would suffice, because, as Empress Dagmar said, "What am I to do with my 400 rooms in Gatchina Palace?  I never use more than two."
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: RogerV on June 24, 2008, 02:43:39 AM
The Flight of the Romanovs says that Marie/Dagmar moved to Hvidøre permanently after her Nephew, the King of Denmark, complained about the electricity bills she was running up in his home, Amalienborg Castle.  The house had a permanent staff of 30 servants, but I do not know how many rooms it had.  Apparently it was possible to walk to the beach using a tunnel that passed under the road running parallet to the shore.  Almost every room in the house had a view of the sea.

One major problem was the house had been intended as a warm weather residence and did not have any fireplaces or heating stoves (from the picture I've seen, the fireplace with the Danish motto "East or West, Home is Best" inscribed on it was apparently a fake).  Especially with the wind blowing across the frigid water in winter, the large windows would become a definite liability.  Apparently, electric fireplaces had been installed, but they weren't equal to the Danish winter, and in the winter of 1927-1928 kerosene heaters were brought in, and even they couldn't keep the place warm.  I can't help but wonder what the king would have said about the bills for the electricity needed to keep those electric fireplaces going...
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Joanna on July 26, 2008, 09:02:28 PM
Various views of Hvidore:
http://www.vognstyrer.dk/Sporvogne/DKS/Linje4/Foto/Hvidore1.jpg
http://www.vognstyrer.dk/Sporvogne/DKS/Linje4/Foto/Emiliekilde1.jpg
http://www.danskebilleder.dk/data/grafik/reg/b715700/a0876-14332-print.jpg
http://www.danskebilleder.dk/data/grafik/reg/b715700/a1967-10565-print.jpg
http://www.danskebilleder.dk/data/grafik/reg/b715700/a0831-11314-print.jpg
Interior Stairs:
http://www.danskebilleder.dk/data/grafik/reg/b715700/a1968-10881-print.jpg

A site on Hvidore that appears it is now a conference centre. There are photos of Empress Marie but I had problem to access and I am not sure if they are still building the site:
http://www.hvidoere.dk/documents/home_page/document/index.asp

There is also a book on The Kitchen at Hvidore:
http://www.scandinavia-connection.co.uk/index_files/Page760.htm

Can anyone confirm the use of Hvidore today?

Joanna
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Joanna on July 26, 2008, 10:02:27 PM
The book "Royal Palace & Gardens" by Mima Nixon, London, 1916 has five chapters on Hvidore:

http://ebook.lib.hku.hk/CADAL/B33654803/

Joanna
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Daniel Briere on July 30, 2008, 10:37:47 PM
Various views of Hvidore:
http://www.vognstyrer.dk/Sporvogne/DKS/Linje4/Foto/Hvidore1.jpg
http://www.vognstyrer.dk/Sporvogne/DKS/Linje4/Foto/Emiliekilde1.jpg
http://www.danskebilleder.dk/data/grafik/reg/b715700/a0876-14332-print.jpg
http://www.danskebilleder.dk/data/grafik/reg/b715700/a1967-10565-print.jpg
http://www.danskebilleder.dk/data/grafik/reg/b715700/a0831-11314-print.jpg
Interior Stairs:
http://www.danskebilleder.dk/data/grafik/reg/b715700/a1968-10881-print.jpg

A site on Hvidore that appears it is now a conference centre. There are photos of Empress Marie but I had problem to access and I am not sure if they are still building the site:
http://www.hvidoere.dk/documents/home_page/document/index.asp

There is also a book on The Kitchen at Hvidore:
http://www.scandinavia-connection.co.uk/index_files/Page760.htm

Can anyone confirm the use of Hvidore today?

Joanna


As far as I know it still is the Danish based pharmaceutical Novo Nordisk Company Conference Center. I went to Klampenborg five years ago to see Hvidøre. The original cottage is still quite recognizable. I didn't get in but it seems not much of the original rooms remain apart from a Hall.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Michael HR on July 31, 2008, 03:47:45 AM
At least the Dowager Empress had a place of her own to go to after the revolution. It must have been hard on the others with no home outside Russia and no capital as such to purchase one unless you had a few jewels that you managed to get out of the country. Apart from the Empress did other members of the family already own property abroad they could flee to?
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Joanna on July 31, 2008, 08:19:53 PM
Thanks Daniel. I was confused on the name Novo Nordisk as I had remembered Hvidore as diabectic clinique. It is now own dedicated site: www.hvidoere.dk.

Joanna
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: RichC on September 22, 2008, 11:17:59 AM
There are a few more pictures of Hvidøre as it is today on Flickr.  Just go to Flickr and search Hvidore (with an English "o").
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: rgt9w on March 04, 2012, 10:58:32 AM
http://anichkov.spb.ru/Pictures/big2517571159174963.jpg


Was the structure on the roof, to the left of the central tower, used as a winter garden?
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Michael HR on May 09, 2012, 04:10:54 AM
I was there a couple of years ago and looks fabulous. Also visited the Russian church in Copenhagen along with the GD Olga museum at  near where she used to live. Wonderful trip.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Laura_ on May 18, 2012, 07:29:12 AM
Since this is a thread about Hviodore,  there is this new book called  "HVIDØRE - A Royal Retreat".  The authors are Coryne Hall and Senta Driver
It is a beautiful book, with wonderful photos of both Marie Feodorovna and Queen Alexandras and their private villa in Denmark!

(http://uploadimage.ro/images/85674545222922940665.jpg) (http://uploadimage.ro/)

HVIDØRE - A Royal Retreat by Coryne Hall & Senta Driver

Why did Queen Alexandra and her sister, the Dowager Empress, decide to buy a private villa in Denmark, and what were the circumstances that forced the exiled Empress to make it her new home? Coryne Hall tells the fascinating story of two famous sisters and their Royal Retreat. Magnificent original illustrations from a private collection.

In 1906 Queen Alexandra of Great Britain and her sister, the Dowager Empress Marie Feodorovna of Russia purchased Hvidøre, a villa on the Danish coast, as their private home. Until 1914, the sisters visited the property every autumn, entertaining friends and many royal relatives in an informal atmosphere. It was indeed a royal retreat.

The First World War put an end to these happy times but in 1919, now exiled from Russia, the Dowager Empress Marie made the villa her home and Hvidøre became her Court in exile. In 1920 she was joined by her daughter, the Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna and her family, who all lived at Hvidøre, not always happily, until the Empress's death in 1928.

Hvidøre: A Royal Retreat tells the story of the purchase, renovation, the many royal visitors and finally the sale of this forgotten royal home. This beautiful and informative book is filled with magnificent original photographs from a private collection. 100 Black & White Photographs


http://www.royalbooks.se/produkt/54/hvidore-a-royal-retreat.html
http://www.hoogstraten.nl/theshop/product_info.php?cPath=21_22_43&products_id=560
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Michael HR on June 18, 2012, 09:43:58 AM
It is still there. Was there 18 months ago but cold only see the outside. A lovely building indeed.
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: kolia van ginneken on February 16, 2013, 12:24:38 PM
Does anyone know if the summer house of the Dowager Empress Marie and her sister Alexandra is still standing, or who may own it?  It was in Denmark and called Hviodore.
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Hviodore  still   stands   and   belongs  to   a   compagnie    now    rather   sad    they   should     have   made   a   museum   out   of   it    .  I   think   olga   sold   it  before  the  war
Title: Re: Hviodore
Post by: Clemence on April 21, 2014, 06:10:50 AM
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Hvidøre in the past


Hvidøre was built by the Danish architect Johan Schröder as a summer residence for the counsellor F C Bruun. In 1906 the Queen Alexandra of England and the Empress Dowager Dagmar of Russia bought Hvidøre.

Alexandra and Dagmar stayed at Hvidøre every year in September and October until the First World War broke out and the transport from England and Russia became too dangerous.

In 1919 Dagmar escaped from Russia. In the beginning she stayed at the Amalienborg Palace, later she moved to Hvidøre when the house was renovated and suitable for use throughout the year. Dagmar’s daughter the Grand Duchess Olga later came to Hvidøre together with her husband, Nicholas Kulikovsky, and their two sons, Guri and Tihon. Dagmar died at Hvidøre in 1928.

After this Hvidøre had a changeable period with different owners until 1937 when the two brothers and founders of 'Novo Terapeutisk Laboratorium', Harald and Thorvald Pedersen, bought the house. Hvidøre was now converted into a diabetes hospital and opened on 28 January 1938. At the hospital people with diabetes could get treatment and learn to live with their disease and have an active life. The hospital could accommodate 25 patients. The price of the treatment was DKK 6 per day, which later was reduced to DKK 4 per day.

In 1989 'Novo Industri' and 'Nordisk Gentofte' merged into 'Novo Nordisk A/S'. The hospital at Hvidøre was merged with 'Niels Steensens Hospital' (later 'Steno Diabetes Center'), as these buildings were up-to-date.

After a thorough renovation Hvidøre opened again on 16 August 1993 as an internal conference centre for the Novo Group’s employees and guests.

http://www.hvidoere.dk/documents/article_page/document/about_past.asp (http://www.hvidoere.dk/documents/article_page/document/about_past.asp)