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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Tatiana Nicholaievna => Topic started by: Beautiful_Anastasia on March 07, 2010, 05:20:21 AM

Title: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on March 07, 2010, 05:20:21 AM
The latest thread on Tatiana's photographs, the other one had a lot of pages and was taking a while to load!
Emily x
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 07, 2010, 06:25:28 AM
I know, that this was posted before, but I simply love it:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Tatianacropped.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 07, 2010, 06:27:51 AM
And her forensic reconstruction

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Forensic_rec._Romanov_04.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on March 07, 2010, 07:02:47 AM
Hehe, I don't think that the forensic reconstruction looks anything like her, but great picture! Do you know when it was taken? She has longer hair so it can't be after 1914...she looks really happy!
Emily x
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 07, 2010, 07:38:21 AM
It's from 1911. At Livadia.
Here's the full one.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/GilliardOlgaTatiana.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 07, 2010, 07:43:01 AM
ups, sorry for the big size...Tatiana has such an erectness! Beautiful, like the daughter of a Tsar :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on March 07, 2010, 08:05:32 AM
She looks rather pretty (and blinded by the sun) in this one.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/TatianaCrimeia1913.jpg)

Nurse (this one is new to me, btw)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/Tatiananursing.jpg)

Thanks for starting this new photo thread! Sorry that these are kinda big.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 07, 2010, 08:54:55 AM
Here´s the full version of the last one posted:

http://nd01.blog.cz/038/696/af47c387da_41303883_o2.jpg
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 07, 2010, 11:07:00 AM
Is it Olga behind her?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on March 07, 2010, 11:14:59 AM
It looks like her to me. You can see Alix there too.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 08, 2010, 06:56:50 PM
Links are back...from 1910

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/OTMA%201911%20%20formal/th_Tatiana1.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/OTMA%201911%20%20formal/?action=view&current=Tatiana1.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/OTMA%201911%20%20formal/th_tayna-b.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/OTMA%201911%20%20formal/?action=view&current=tayna-b.jpg)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 09, 2010, 03:39:43 PM
Little Tatiana

(http://i41.tinypic.com/9s49kk.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on March 09, 2010, 03:54:12 PM
Aww. Great picture. I like the belt-looking thing she's wearing.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: cebi26 on March 09, 2010, 04:44:04 PM
Sorry if already were posted.

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3901/olgatatianasq0.jpg)

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5936/alixtatia.jpg)

(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5893/tatiana04sg4.jpg)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on March 09, 2010, 05:27:19 PM
Referencing Replies #s 25 and 28:  The "belt-like thing" (partially showing) is the sash, or "ribband" of a Grand Cross grade of an imperial order, being worn over the shoulder, and the badge or "jewel" of the order being worn at the gathered ends of the sash, on the opposite hip.  IMO, it's undoubtedly the Grand Cross of the Order of Saint Catherine, which was bestowed at the christening of every Grand Duchess, or a Grand Duchess who married into the Imperial Family. According to Nick Nicholson in an article (on the history of this order) on the APTM site, "When Alexandra Feodorovna and her daughters went into exile in Siberia, they took their badges and stars with them.  They were recovered in 1933."       AP
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 09, 2010, 07:25:22 PM
....."When Alexandra Feodorovna and her daughters went into exile in Siberia, they took their badges and stars with them.  They were recovered in 1933."
Interesting. I know a stash of Romanov jewels were discovered in Siberia in  '33....AF had originally had them smuggled out and hidden in a convent while  the family was in Tobolsk...it seems the  jewels that could not be sewn into their clothes went  into this stash.( such as tiaras ) Sending thier badges and stars into hiding  must of been quite an awful  moment for Alexandra and the girls....one of many
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Nicolá De Valerón on March 09, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
Referencing Replies #s 25 and 28:  The "belt-like thing" (partially showing) is the sash, or "ribband" of a Grand Cross grade of an imperial order, being worn over the shoulder, and the badge or "jewel" of the order being worn at the gathered ends of the sash, on the opposite hip.  IMO, it's undoubtedly the Grand Cross of the Order of Saint Catherine, which was bestowed at the christening of every Grand Duchess, or a Grand Duchess who married into the Imperial Family. According to Nick Nicholson in an article (on the history of this order) on the APTM site, "When Alexandra Feodorovna and her daughters went into exile in Siberia, they took their badges and stars with them.  They were recovered in 1933."       AP

Yes, I can only agree with our dear strict forum "policeman" AP;), this is the Order of St. Catherine. Women highest possible decoration in the Russian Empire, only for GD and great ladies. Order consist of two degrees. It might be funny, but as I can see our Tatiana on the photo has not the highest degree;).
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on March 09, 2010, 09:17:07 PM
Thank you, "Nicola" for your humor!  Regarding the degree of this order as discussed:  Could it be that the angle/positioning of the subject of the photograph and the voluminous "sleeves" of the fabric are obscuring the star of the order, since they are already interrupting the depiction of the continuation of the sash as well?  Just a reflective thought!  With best regards,   AP.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Nicolá De Valerón on March 10, 2010, 07:52:17 AM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/9s49kk.jpg)

You are very welcome, our dear "AP"! If seriously to the Order degree itself, then on the photo posted by Katenka, Tatiana only by her royal status should have exclusively 1st degree, and now I see it clearly. Only the 1st degree Order was placed on tape on the left side of the body over the right shoulder. And finally, 1st degree was significantly bigger (two times bigger then 2nd degree), something about 4 inches and this huge Order looks funny on Tatiana. I had some doubts about materials, but now it's clearly for me. Oh yes, and we cannot see the big star, because it was placed on the chest. "Thanks" to the qualified photographer, that he took this Tatiana's photo without such important thing like a big star;).

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on March 10, 2010, 03:00:24 PM
Oh yes, and we cannot see the big star, because it was placed on the chest. "Thanks" to the qualified photographer, that he took this Tatiana's photo without such important thing like a big star;).

Tatiana from the front:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_Tatiana4-4.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=Tatiana4-4.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_Tatiana3-3.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=Tatiana3-3.jpg)

Olga front:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_Olga2-4.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=Olga2-4.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_Olga1-3.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=Olga1-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wox24 on March 11, 2010, 04:46:06 PM
Tatiana has so strange (I hope it is right word) eyes. And not only eyes all face is interesting.

http://nd01.blog.cz/838/662/0efc8f3429_44828497_o2.jpg (http://nd01.blog.cz/838/662/0efc8f3429_44828497_o2.jpg)

http://nd01.blog.cz/331/916/83f74b84d8_46843672_u.jpg (http://nd01.blog.cz/331/916/83f74b84d8_46843672_u.jpg)

http://nd01.blog.cz/625/027/c23efbfdbb_44827866_u.jpg (http://nd01.blog.cz/625/027/c23efbfdbb_44827866_u.jpg)

http://nd01.blog.cz/978/904/8ee92f3d72_39960315_o2.jpg (http://nd01.blog.cz/978/904/8ee92f3d72_39960315_o2.jpg)

http://nd01.blog.cz/056/363/3638b3fd21_39960362_o2.jpg (http://nd01.blog.cz/056/363/3638b3fd21_39960362_o2.jpg)

http://nd01.blog.cz/072/350/847e91cafc_39959878_o2.jpg (http://nd01.blog.cz/072/350/847e91cafc_39959878_o2.jpg)

http://nd01.blog.cz/919/226/44a6f1f4e7_40074357_u.jpg (http://nd01.blog.cz/919/226/44a6f1f4e7_40074357_u.jpg)

http://nd01.blog.cz/022/220/530d7d7586_40005010_o2.jpg (http://nd01.blog.cz/022/220/530d7d7586_40005010_o2.jpg)

+ some photos up, et.


I know these photos were here, I only want to show photos what, IMHO, show Tatiana`s stragne eyes.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on March 12, 2010, 07:25:41 PM
Strangest thing for me is, that she looks so different in every picture...sometimes a beauty, sometimes I find her not that pretty. But one surely had to see her in natural, see her moves, hear her voice and her expressions while talking...I think, thats what makes her the beauty for so many people.

You're right. I find it interesting how she looks so obviously different from her sisters. Whatever the situation, she is very captivating!

Another pic...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Tatiana1907.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Maria on March 13, 2010, 01:14:31 AM
That can be found in Beinecke Abum 6; here. (http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/RMNV_SearchExec.asp)
That pic was taken in Finland, right?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 13, 2010, 01:35:53 AM
Please be more patient. I think that the English language is not wox24's native language.

That is absolutely right. Wox24 is a native Slovak. There are over 7000 members on the forum and I bet at least half of them are not native English speakers. Please, do not jump on everything they wrte, because it may be only ill-chosen expression.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on March 13, 2010, 07:50:00 AM
That can be found in Beinecke Abum 6; here. (http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/RMNV_SearchExec.asp)
That pic was taken in Finland, right?

It resembles some other photos taken in Finland by some sort of forest/trees, so my guess is Finland.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wox24 on March 15, 2010, 03:38:36 AM
Ah didn't think of that.

The word "zvláštny" have a lot of translates, I do not know what would be better, I wrote "strange". But as I see, "strange" was not too right. ;)

I know "almond shaped" but I wanted to say somenthing other. ;)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on March 15, 2010, 10:50:24 AM
The complete picture of Tatiana:

(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/1908_forest.jpg)

Tatiana circa 1913:

(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/probablynottanya.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on March 15, 2010, 11:35:42 AM
The complete picture of Tatiana:

(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/1908_forest.jpg)

Tatiana circa 1913:

(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/probablynottanya.jpg)

A little comment about the last photo: although i labelled as Tatiana, I'm not 100% sure the girl is her.

I love this two photographs of her from circa 1914 (Nicholas II digitalized albums): =)

(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/big31.jpg)

(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/Copiadebig230.jpg)


Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Nicolá De Valerón on March 15, 2010, 06:37:34 PM
otmaprivatealbums, beautiful photos!

I'm terribly sorry for off-topic, but as otmaprivatealbums already posted two photos from the Presidential library, I have a question for all who are really know something in this case: how can I copy photos from that source? How you are commonly doing it? As I know you can use Silverlight only for watching and there is no option in this software to copy photos.

I'll be grateful for any answer.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on March 15, 2010, 08:01:21 PM
I'm terribly sorry for off-topic, but as otmaprivatealbums already posted two photos from the Presidential library, I have a question for all who are really know something in this case: how can I copy photos from that source? How you are commonly doing it? As I know you can use Silverlight only for watching and there is no option in this software to copy photos.

I'll be grateful for any answer.

The only way I know is by making a screenshot (http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm). (Or the "Grab" utility on a Mac.) The bigger the screen, the bigger the captured photo will be.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Douglas on March 15, 2010, 09:04:58 PM

If your ScreenShot capture is small, you can always increase the size in your photo software program.



I'm terribly sorry for off-topic, but as otmaprivatealbums already posted two photos from the Presidential library, I have a question for all who are really know something in this case: how can I copy photos from that source? How you are commonly doing it? As I know you can use Silverlight only for watching and there is no option in this software to copy photos.

I'll be grateful for any answer.

The only way I know is by making a screenshot (http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm). (Or the "Grab" utility on a Mac.) The bigger the screen, the bigger the captured photo will be.



Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Holly on March 16, 2010, 11:16:46 AM
I'm terribly sorry for off-topic, but as otmaprivatealbums already posted two photos from the Presidential library, I have a question for all who are really know something in this case: how can I copy photos from that source? How you are commonly doing it? As I know you can use Silverlight only for watching and there is no option in this software to copy photos.

I'll be grateful for any answer.

The only way I know is by making a screenshot (http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm). (Or the "Grab" utility on a Mac.) The bigger the screen, the bigger the captured photo will be.

Or, you could always to it the old fashioned way: press and hold down the command+shift+3 keys simultaneously and it will create a screenshot and put the file directly on your desktop.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on March 16, 2010, 12:44:06 PM
otmaprivatealbums, beautiful photos!

I'm terribly sorry for off-topic, but as otmaprivatealbums already posted two photos from the Presidential library, I have a question for all who are really know something in this case: how can I copy photos from that source? How you are commonly doing it? As I know you can use Silverlight only for watching and there is no option in this software to copy photos.

I'll be grateful for any answer.

I use the same way of Holly (I think) I press on the same time the buttons "control" and a botton called "pet sis" (on the right of the botton "F12")
I hope It will help you! =)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on March 21, 2010, 07:24:22 PM
Smile
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Tatianashipboard.jpg)

Regiment uniform close-up
(http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/p/a/patrio_info/Tatyana-Nikolaevna-Romanova-01j.jpg)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on March 21, 2010, 07:30:24 PM
Tatiana and Mom (both appearing rather annoyed)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/TatianaAlexandraca1914.jpg
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 21, 2010, 07:57:31 PM
Nice photos abbigail! Had you seen this one just posted recently  on the rare thread?

(http://s004.radikal.ru/i205/1003/e1/439d2f53b38c.jpg) (http://www.radikal.ru)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on March 21, 2010, 08:10:01 PM
I did see that! I like it a lot; Tatiana looks very calm and pretty.

I wonder what on earth that white thing next to them is? The blur? Perhaps the man on the left trying to get into the picture last minute!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: amartin71718 on March 21, 2010, 08:20:38 PM
It looks like one of Tatiana's fellow nurses, actually.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 21, 2010, 08:22:32 PM
I was just about to say that too Marty! ....looks like a nurse running by...nursing! lol! I think the bed is in a hall way...not unusual in a crowded war time hospital ! 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on March 29, 2010, 07:01:44 PM
Somewhat odd picture of Tatiana--
http://s985.photobucket.com/albums/ae339/ashka_2010/?action=view&current=Tatianalaying.jpg&newest=1

Adorable on a bike
http://s985.photobucket.com/albums/ae339/ashka_2010/?action=view&current=tatianabiker.jpg

Big Pair
http://s985.photobucket.com/albums/ae339/ashka_2010/?action=view&current=two1wr.png
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 29, 2010, 08:45:04 PM
abbgail that 2nd one is total new to me! Adorable how when TN isn't sure about something , her eyebrows go way up! The first one Tatiana is on the beach in the Crimea ...the third one , I have seen another one taken at the same time, but that one is new to me. Such a photo reminds me of what their nurse friend,  Valentina Ivanovna Chebotareva  said one time when the girls arrived at the hospital ...the car came up behind Valentina Ivanovna ,and she said"  I turned around and there were their pretty faces" ...indeed
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 30, 2010, 08:35:36 AM
I know! :D Lol! It's funny how people have these face things they do.
Her eye brows up in a questioning  manner was something she did  though out life, it's since the earliest photos.
And when Titania grinned, her face could change dramatically and go nearly horizontal...the very picture of glee. 
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/happy.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on April 01, 2010, 05:39:51 PM
Tatiana circa 1903:

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/circa1903_Tatiana.jpg
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on April 01, 2010, 06:54:30 PM
Tatiana circa 1903:http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/circa1903_Tatiana.jpg
I have always seen that drawing called " Olga" ...and when one looks at the forehead and hair( and ears) ...one can see why ;-)
But I've never seen it  bigger! Beautiful!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on April 01, 2010, 10:27:31 PM
I think it's Olga, but I can be wrong...

RealAnastasia
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on April 02, 2010, 02:50:41 AM
She looks like a happier copy of Alix in her younger years. I also think that is Olga
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 02, 2010, 03:12:20 AM
It is Olga´s portrait by Kaulbach. There is a different one of Tatiana (often labelled as Maria, because itdoes resemble Maria more than Tatiana).
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on April 02, 2010, 12:44:19 PM
I'm sorry =(  I thought that was Tatiana and this was Olga:

(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/circa1903.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 02, 2010, 12:58:07 PM
This is Tatiana - at least that´s what we agreed upon in a discussion long ago.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on April 04, 2010, 05:41:21 AM
Oh, the portraits are beautiful. Even if they have not 100% resemblance...thank you for posting.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on April 07, 2010, 11:45:10 AM
She looks a bit different of this pic but its really nice indeed ;-)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on April 26, 2010, 03:02:59 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/tanniehat.jpg)

Unusual one. I  have no idea where I got it.  Enjoy. :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on April 26, 2010, 06:28:43 AM
I'm pretty sure that's Maria in post 97.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 26, 2010, 11:37:36 AM
She does look like Maria, I agree, and for a long time I was convinced it is Maria. But it would be illogical to have two sketches of Maria and none of Tatiana.

blessOTMA - that is a cropped picture, here you can see full: http://nd01.jxs.cz/366/974/08c2e5281f_40004967_o2.jpg
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on April 26, 2010, 12:33:52 PM
She does look like Maria, I agree, and for a long time I was convinced it is Maria. But it would be illogical to have two sketches of Maria and none of Tatiana.
Are these drawings still in Russia? If they were removed from their frames, who is who could very well be noted on the back of them.
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blessOTMA - that is a cropped picture, here you can see full: http://nd01.jxs.cz/366/974/08c2e5281f_40004967_o2.jpg
Thank you Ally! I'm guessing Germany? Alexandra and Alexis look like they are about  to race in their chairs! lol!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on April 26, 2010, 02:35:42 PM
I think it is Germany too.

I'm pretty sure that's Maria in post 97.

I am agreed.

She does look like Maria, I agree, and for a long time I was convinced it is Maria. But it would be illogical to have two sketches of Maria and none of Tatiana.

But what if we had not seen real Tatiana's sketch? Though on one side, am agreed with you. Maria resembles to Olga rather to Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 26, 2010, 02:57:27 PM
Where would that sketch be then? And why would Alix hang portraits of her husband and children into Maple room (I think they were there, correct me if not), and not include her favourite daughter?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Condecontessa on April 26, 2010, 03:57:45 PM
True, but there was a sculpture of Tatiana as a baby and a bust of Tatiana in the Mauve Room.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on April 26, 2010, 04:10:21 PM
Rather than just  looking at the features, it might help to look at each child's expression. Then what is thought to be  Olga, appears more as Olga and what is said to be Tatiana, appears more to be so. Art is not photos and sometimes the artist changes features a bit. They would not do Olga's childhood forehead in all it's glory! lol! But that pleading expression is characteristic of Olga as a child AND characteristic of newspaper drawing I have seen of her from round this time ...also I can see a typical Tatiana  expression ( her eyebrows were very expressive! )  in the other.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on April 26, 2010, 04:35:06 PM
I think I've seen that bust, Condecontessa. It did resemble her and was interesting to see. Does anyone have a photo of the baby one?

I agree, blessOTMA...I always admired how fine and sensitive her eyebrows and whole face were. And I laughed at the "pleading" look of Olga's...you're right
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on April 26, 2010, 10:22:52 PM
I think I've seen that bust, Condecontessa. It did resemble her and was interesting to see. Does anyone have a photo of the baby one?
I have not seen those...the ones Alexandra had...just the modern ones!
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  I agree, blessOTMA...I always admired how fine and sensitive her eyebrows and whole face were. And I laughed at the "pleading" look of Olga's...you're right
When younger, Olga had a pleading look that went with her sweet smile...perhaps it appeared so because her eye brows had so much space to travel up in that amazing brow! lol!( and of course she had a furious look too! )
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on April 27, 2010, 04:28:15 PM
Stamp on her birthday - May 29th 1915:

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Tatjana/th_ving12.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Tatjana/?action=view&current=ving12.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on April 27, 2010, 04:49:40 PM
Relative to the  Reply # 111.   Question:   Perhaps it is a linguistic issue, but the common utilization of the word "stamp" (in English and in this particular instance) would usually indicate an official government postage issue with with country of origin, postage value, etc. imprinted.  For many, many years, I collected Russian stamps of the Empire era and NEVER encountered such an item as shown.  I am presuming that it is what may be called a "sticker"/decorative label, with/without adhesion, or a "fantasy" item, privately issued for whatever cause, as opposed to a recognized "offical" issue.  Perhaps it is of a different utilization, such as the popular "Red Cross" labels/stickers that are "issued" in a number of countries, having no stand-alone or added postal value, and they are in nowise a legitimate postal-bearing "stamp." I certainly DO NOT see that this "stamp" shown is any kind of approved governmental issue relative to moving the mail.  There is no Scott Catalogue number for it either.   Regards,  AP
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RHB on April 27, 2010, 04:52:09 PM
Ok i did this in 1 of the Olga photo threads (the recent one with the WW1 Charity Stamp) and I once again have noticed slight differences in the one Nena just posted (lovely photo by the way) http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Tatjana/?action=view&current=ving12.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Tatjana/?action=view&current=ving12.jpg) and i compared it with one because it looked somewhat of the similar posing with the flowers http://nd01.jxs.cz/859/533/0375a82cb1_44828543_o2.jpg (http://nd01.jxs.cz/859/533/0375a82cb1_44828543_o2.jpg) once again is just me or do other spot the differences? Nena's: Tatiana looks like she siting more upright where as the link from Ally's photo site she looks almost like she just looked up from looking at the flowers and and her head seems i don't know how to word it slightly tilt as if she just looked up for the camera... see i can't even describe it myself even though i know what i want to say just in a post it comes out similar but slightly different... oh nevermind! But like i said anyone see certain differences or is it just me? yes but maybe it was just for her as Nena said for her birthday kind of like a collector stamp in her honor... did i even say that right?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 27, 2010, 04:56:24 PM
It's possible that both Olga and Tatiana were photographed at the same location, possibly at the same time.  One went first, then the other.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on April 28, 2010, 02:44:25 AM
Thank you everyone on kind corrections -- The photo was labeled as 'stamp' when I found it , so that I believed in description. Actually, it was labeled as 'WW1 Charity Stamp' as Romanov History Buff  noticed.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on April 28, 2010, 08:44:40 AM
Was there an Anastasia portrait like the one in post 97?
Emily x
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on April 28, 2010, 08:49:06 AM
What I mean is,
if this is Olga:
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/circa1903_Tatiana.jpg)

And this Maria:
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/circa1903.jpg)

Then where are Tatiana and Anastasia???
Emily x
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 28, 2010, 10:15:02 AM
The second one is most likely Tatiana. UNnless there were truly two Maria portraits and none of Tatiana.

This is Maria:
(http://nd03.jxs.cz/046/058/f6cb5d33fe_63999892_u.jpg)

And there is also one of Anastasia - but I don´t have it.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on April 28, 2010, 10:31:50 AM

Then where are Tatiana and Anastasia???
Emily x


IMO:
Olga:
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/circa1903.jpg)
Tatiana:
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/circa1903_Tatiana.jpg)
Maria:
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/1903_M.jpg)
Anastasia:
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/1903_A.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: SweetAngels on April 28, 2010, 11:22:13 AM
Indeed I think you right otmaprivatealbums, eventhought the both picture can be of Olga, but that can't be so this looks the most right :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on April 28, 2010, 12:32:06 PM
I switch the first two, but agree on the last two :) Besides that I think it looks like how an artist would do Olga  ( which is different from how one actually looks! lol! ) I think Olga, the older girl,  would have the the more grown up sailor hat  on and Tatiana would have a hat simular to Marie...rather than Olga wearing the younger outfit and Taiana the sailor hat  . imo
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on April 28, 2010, 06:37:09 PM
I think Maria's looks very much like her and agree with the first two...Olga's somewhat broad face (plus that look is kinda Olga-ish) and that Tatiana one has her delicate features.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on April 28, 2010, 07:07:18 PM
Here's more Tatiana pictures. They are quite new to me.

with Alix in the woods
http://s985.photobucket.com/albums/ae339/ashka_2010/?action=view&current=glare.jpg

Tatiana in white
http://s985.photobucket.com/albums/ae339/ashka_2010/?action=view&current=sideview.jpg

while ill, with her father
http://s985.photobucket.com/albums/ae339/ashka_2010/?action=view&current=sleepingreading.jpg
This one looks like he might have bored her to sleep :D
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dust_of_History on April 29, 2010, 06:50:33 PM
Tatiana together with Olga:

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/530/45440523.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on April 30, 2010, 07:38:08 AM
Wow, Dust of History, that's a new picture to me! Do you know what year it was taken in?
Emily x
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dust_of_History on April 30, 2010, 09:07:04 AM
I'm not sure but I guess it was taken in 1912 or 1913.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on April 30, 2010, 12:25:44 PM
I'd rather say that it was taken as early as 1912.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on April 30, 2010, 03:37:49 PM
I'm almost sure it's 1911. But maybe 1912.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on April 30, 2010, 05:21:36 PM
Exactly -- I meant that 1912 would be the maximum.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: tatianolishka_ on May 01, 2010, 06:59:51 PM
This would've been taken in mid-late 1911. You can see that Olga's hair is still down, indicating she is still not sixteen. There are other photos from this day where it's a little clearer. :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 02, 2010, 04:34:02 PM
Tatiana and olga at the hospital

 (http://i44.tinypic.com/2qbxjld.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Talya on May 04, 2010, 01:08:27 AM
what are those wicker baskets on their heads??!! Are they hats?

here is one from the same day I think
(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/th_ON9-10.jpg) (http://s845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/?action=view&current=ON9-10.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on May 04, 2010, 09:55:31 AM
To us those hats are crazy, but looking at the hats they endured as children, they must of been glad hats were progressively getting smaller! By the end of their royal lives they were wearing  cloche hats / flapper hats that were worn throughout the 20's .  Here's Marie in one. Seems to me she's trying it on and is quite pleased. It's a unusual image of one of them since it could have been take years after thier passing...Marie was still in style

 (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/mashkahat.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on May 05, 2010, 11:33:08 AM
Nicholas with Olga and Tatiana - Finish skerries, 1913 :

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/th_getImage.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/?action=view&current=getImage.jpg)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Maria on May 06, 2010, 02:41:11 AM
Nicholas with Olga and Tatiana - Finish skerries, 1913 :

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/th_getImage.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/?action=view&current=getImage.jpg)


Wow, definitely new for me, too! Very many thanks to you, nena! It's also my first time to see them wearing that dress.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on May 06, 2010, 08:29:58 AM
They are at least attending their father as he takes a sample of the sailors food. A tradition  I have seen them have Alexis do before...but the way the big pair are lined up and at attention, I believe they will be shortly slipping soup as well. Totally new nena! You are amazing!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on May 23, 2010, 11:34:33 PM
I saw this on eBay. Looks unusual to me. Sorry,  if not
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/tanya.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 28, 2010, 03:02:10 PM
if im not wrong these are Tatiana (left) and olga

(http://s55.radikal.ru/i148/0811/b9/5fe74af98b09.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on May 28, 2010, 03:16:40 PM
you welcome ^.^
:) Where on Earth did you find it???
Emily x
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 28, 2010, 03:17:58 PM
in google images.ń I was looking for pictures of Georgiy Alexandrovich and i stumbled upon that pic.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on May 28, 2010, 04:15:25 PM
you welcome ^.^
:) Where on Earth did you find it???
Emily x

It's probably a scan from The Jewel Album of Nicholas II (http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/books.html?sku=10).
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 29, 2010, 12:04:03 AM
I already knows the pic. I think it was posted at "The Big Pair thread"...It's amazing. Why did Romanovs photograph themselves by the BACK? (there also is a pick of Alexei's head seen by the back)

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on May 29, 2010, 05:47:00 AM
I already knows the pic. I think it was posted at "The Big Pair thread"...It's amazing. Why did Romanovs photograph themselves by the BACK? (there also is a pick of Alexei's head seen by the back)

RealAnastasia.
I belive you mean this one:

(http://nd01.jxs.cz/458/901/25480626fb_44821496_u.jpg) - Alexei circa 1910
Emily x
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on May 29, 2010, 07:03:23 AM
I already knows the pic. I think it was posted at "The Big Pair thread"...It's amazing. Why did Romanovs photograph themselves by the BACK?

In the case of the regimental photo of the Big Pair, it was probably to show off the detailing on the uniforms. Olga's cape in particular is rather eye-catching.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on May 29, 2010, 11:01:32 AM
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/H49ovDMheTE/0.jpg)

(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/3336495.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=45B0EB3381F7834DDADB83E2A57B071A461459521C23BD6ACA52222F25EC092C)
I believe that's her in the back.

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tasia on June 25, 2010, 09:49:27 AM
Cool, Abby! I can't see the last one, though!

EDIT:Tatiana and Olga
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/282/otyoyo.png)



Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on June 25, 2010, 09:51:24 AM
Thanks for posting these, Abby :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: toscany on June 25, 2010, 03:14:18 PM
ups, sorry for the big size...Tatiana has such an erectness! Beautiful, like the daughter of a Tsar :)

An excellent photograph of Grand Duchess Tatiana Nikolaevna Romanova. Like the daughter of the Tsarina, taught in the household of Queen Victoria :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: abbigail on June 26, 2010, 06:43:21 PM
Thanks for posting that, Tasia...I love that photo of OT.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/MariaTatianaOlga1916.jpg
Tatiana in the back...she looks just stunning here.

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tasia on June 26, 2010, 07:52:03 PM
Very cool, abby! New for me!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on June 26, 2010, 08:30:36 PM
Thanks for posting that, Tasia...I love that photo of OT. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/MariaTatianaOlga1916.jpg
Tatiana in the back...she looks just stunning here.
I have adored that  one of the three girls for decades and will be painting it later this year. Can't wait to get at  the watered silk stashes and the dresses !...marvelous lighting too

Here is  another nice Tatiana  one . Gorgeous
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Tatiana%20Nicolaievna/tanniefur.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on June 27, 2010, 02:42:42 AM
Thanks for posting that, Tasia...I love that photo of OT. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/MariaTatianaOlga1916.jpg
Tatiana in the back...she looks just stunning here.

Its interesting, that Olga and Tatiana are allowed to wear a neckline and Maria - even 16years old - had to go high-necked.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dust_of_History on June 27, 2010, 02:41:03 PM
@blessOTMA:
Tatiana looks great on this picture. :-) But what is this thing on her lap? Is this a dog or something?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: amartin71718 on June 27, 2010, 02:50:06 PM
It's part of that fur thing that's around her neck. But for the life of me, I can't remember what it's called.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dust_of_History on June 27, 2010, 03:24:43 PM
It's part of that fur thing that's around her neck. But for the life of me, I can't remember what it's called.

Ah ok, thanks for the info. I think it is called a shawl or a stole.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on June 27, 2010, 03:39:27 PM
@blessOTMA:Tatiana looks great on this picture. :-) But what is this thing on her lap? Is this a dog or something?
lol! Actually that's a good question. It's a fox! The fashion at that time was to keep the head on the fur piece and yes,  stole is the term. So it's a white fox stole. There is a  photo of Olga and Marie similarly dressed taken at the same time Quite stylish for the girls really
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dust_of_History on June 27, 2010, 04:01:06 PM
O_O A fox?! I think the idea of wearing a dead animal around one's neck is very scary. Fashion can be so strange. ;-) I have to admit the whole dress looks pretty good on Tatiana but....ughhhhh
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: rosieposie on June 27, 2010, 06:11:49 PM
That is just the way it was DoH. 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on June 27, 2010, 11:26:13 PM
My great-granny have one of these and I loved to play with it...Well; I must to have say I liked to play with THEM, since there were two animals (there was not a fox, just another animal, similar to skunks but white and without smell  ;D) united by their mouths. It wasn't nothing scary in them. I pretended they were fighting until my great-granny would come and say I must not play with her furs, for I could splash it with dirt and such...But at least she would let me to play with it.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on July 25, 2010, 09:16:40 PM
I love this one. She looks so nice and relaxed...

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab42/GabiNicolaevna/13d6fa1473_39964820_u.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on July 25, 2010, 11:38:36 PM
This versions of the "relaxed Tatiana" is clearer than the other's I've seen.

Vanesa.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Holly on July 26, 2010, 11:30:39 PM
Yes, it is. It's obviously been edited since the original is from Anastasia's Album and hand-tinted.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on July 26, 2010, 11:30:39 PM
found on eBay....I have books from the 20's with this photo, so it's been around. But  it's always printed tiny. I have  never seen it  this big before I would say a  1916  formal . Stunning as always

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Tatiana%20Nicolaievna/tatianaebay.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Holly on July 27, 2010, 12:29:30 AM
Wow -- I'm amazed! ALWAYS wanted a big version of that! Thank you so much for sharing the find, blessOTMA!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on July 27, 2010, 02:23:44 AM
Another nice picture of Tanya :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tasia on July 27, 2010, 08:54:09 AM
Very elegant!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on July 28, 2010, 05:41:14 AM
Am I the only one that thinks she looks in her late twenties? IMO, she had a rather grown-up face, like in the picture from 1906 with Olga holding Alexei and Maria and Tatiana holding hands, I think M and T's faces look a lot older than their bodies. I think it just makes them look more beautiful.
Emily x
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on July 28, 2010, 06:23:44 AM
What photo of 1906 are you talking about, BA?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on July 29, 2010, 03:21:52 AM
This one:

(http://www.freewebs.com/tatianaromanova/BeautyOTMAA8.jpg)
Emily x
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on July 29, 2010, 10:16:04 AM
Am I the only one that thinks she looks in her late twenties? IMO, she had a rather grown-up face, like in the picture from 1906 with Olga holding Alexei and Maria and Tatiana holding hands, I think M and T's faces look a lot older than their bodies. I think it just makes them look more beautiful.
Emily x

I agree. At this pic from 1916 she looks to me like 29 but not like 19.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on July 29, 2010, 02:47:27 PM
I like that too:

Tatiana is holding baby Alexei, and Ithink Nastya is standing back there...

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab42/GabiNicolaevna/c5c0051beb_40004668_utatialexei.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Condecontessa on July 30, 2010, 07:48:57 PM
You're right Lady Nikolaevna. It was taken at Peterhof and in the year 1905 according to the book "The Romanovs: Love, Power, and Tragedy". :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on July 30, 2010, 08:13:37 PM
Thank you very much. I though it could be either Nastya or Maria. Thank you for the source, Condecontessa :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Holly on July 30, 2010, 09:33:02 PM
It is Anastasia in the background.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 05, 2010, 03:34:07 PM
Great photos!
A minitaure painting based on a photo
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Queens/tatiana.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on August 09, 2010, 01:03:47 PM
(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab42/GabiNicolaevna/789d8ca0a4_46844708_u.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on August 09, 2010, 01:07:01 PM
Is that her becoming-16-years-old-picture like the one we have of Olga?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on August 09, 2010, 01:17:06 PM
I believe it's Olga's 16th birthday. Didn't Tatiana had short hair by the time of her 16th birthday?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 09, 2010, 03:33:52 PM
1913, her 16th year,  is tricky for questions about Tatiana's hair because it was cut due to  her bout with typhoid ...so just when it would have gone up, it was cut ...this sort of looks like the wig she wore for the 1913 formals and it's seems she's with her regiment's officers at Lavardia.

Nice photo! New to meThanks!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on August 09, 2010, 05:15:15 PM
Yes, BlessOtma, I totally agree :)
They arfe her regiment's officers, I recognised them because of the uniforms, just like hers.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on August 09, 2010, 09:19:08 PM
This is a screenshot from a documentary I own -- her hair is definitely still down. Tatiana's hair was cut a few months prior to her 16th birthday. If I recall correctly it was March of 1913. The only photos I've seen of Tatiana with her hair up were taken in 1915 or later. 

IMO, it's most likely this was taken on the occasion of Tatiana's namesday in January of 1911, when she received her regiment.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on August 10, 2010, 06:52:38 AM
Tatiana was lucky, typhoid was more deadly back then.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on August 10, 2010, 07:06:40 AM
As was Maria when she got measels and a pneumonia in 1917
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on August 10, 2010, 09:40:21 AM
Indeed, guys ;)


Tatiana in Polar Star (?)

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab42/GabiNicolaevna/d208e2aa0b_39960335_u.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: SweetAngels on August 10, 2010, 09:52:34 AM
Quite right it is Tatiana on the Polar Star. :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Condecontessa on August 10, 2010, 01:01:12 PM
Sarushka, what is the title of the documentary that the screenshot came from?

And also, I don't think the screenshot was taken in January 1911 because the Imperial Family surely was back to Tsarskoe Selo by then.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on August 10, 2010, 05:44:59 PM
Sarushka, what is the title of the documentary that the screenshot came from?

It's called Nikolai i Aleksandra. As far as I know, it's only available on VHS. I think I got it on RussianDVD.com, but I'm not sure if they're still selling it -- I always have a hard time finding it again when someone requests a link.


Quote
And also, I don't think the screenshot was taken in January 1911 because the Imperial Family surely was back to Tsarskoe Selo by then.

I don't know much about the IF's whereabouts for that year. Maybe someone with a copy of NII's diary can check for us.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on August 11, 2010, 04:13:15 PM
I love Tatian's look on this one! Sleepy Maria lying on her  and Tatiana is like "Oh, Lord, not again!"  ;D

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab42/GabiNicolaevna/4406e3afd3_39959574_u.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on August 13, 2010, 08:55:33 PM
*laughing*  :D

(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab42/GabiNicolaevna/dbdb211afc4d.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on August 14, 2010, 02:19:44 AM
uhm...her waist is so slim...I really envy her  ;)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on August 14, 2010, 06:35:14 PM
I believe it was Gibbes who wrote that you could hardly find anyone so thin as Tatiana. (I'll double check the quote in House of Special Purpose when I get a minute.)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 14, 2010, 08:36:34 PM
Sarushka , I believe that was Gibbs and he also said TN had decided opinions, but you would never know her thoughts. Interesting distinction.
I love these two photos, taken early in the war.  It looks like the Tsar is trying to figure out how to work the captured German machine gun and in  the next photo, it looks like Tatiana is reading the instructions....the Governess at work! lol! She wearing the same blouse as in the previous photo, but it's bleached out by the evening sun.

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Tatiana%20Nicolaievna/th_babytanyanick.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Tatiana%20Nicolaievna/?action=view&current=babytanyanick.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Tatiana%20Nicolaievna/th_babytanyanick2.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Tatiana%20Nicolaievna/?action=view&current=babytanyanick2.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on August 15, 2010, 10:51:59 PM
Maybe she was wearing a corset.

Everyone wore a corset back then, even if they were thin. But she was REALLY thin and slender. Just look at her arms. When you wants to know if a lady was really thin or it was the corset, just look at her arms. Fat arms couldn't be disguised. The corset didn't make you look rhinner. It only shaped your waist in a fashinable way. Isabel II of Spain, and Mary of Teck's mother sure wore corsets too..But you couldn't said they were thin!  ;D

Some girls would even sleep with corsets, just to "keep their waist on shape". The writer Laura Ingalls Wilder tell us in one of her "Little House books", that her mother adviced her daughters to sleep with corsets, to keep their figure nice. Laura couldn't bear it and wouldn't sleep with it, but of course her sister Mary did. So, her mother would said in a desperate voice: " God knows what your figure will be!"

Corsets were still in use in the middle of the 20's, but they were very different from the precedents. Thay were intended to make you look as smooth as a wooden table, so it didn't press your waist, but rather your chest.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on August 17, 2010, 05:47:50 PM
I believe it was Gibbes who wrote that you could hardly find anyone so thin as Tatiana. (I'll double check the quote in House of Special Purpose when I get a minute.)

Yes, he was.

'You could hardly find anyone so thin' - recalled Gibbes on Tatiana. FOTR, pg. 48.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: bonbon823 on August 18, 2010, 04:20:37 PM
Ladies even wore corsets while pregnant!  Seems the height of stupidity to us but it was quite normal for them.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on August 18, 2010, 10:53:47 PM
Some women still wear a kind of girdle even today. It's to shape better your figure. Some of them, are even recommended by doctors for specific physical problems. Even some men wears girdles for backside troubles and such. One of my grand-aunts who is only 76 years old, wore girdle since she was 35, to shape her body in a good way. However, she complained a lot about pespiring in summer.

Not all models of corsets would compress your ribs and organs together. It depends their shape. Corsets from 1880 to 1905, surely did. Later corsets wouldn't. Corsets from XVIII century were more little than the others and was mainly wore to shape your upper part of the body into a "V". It was the fashionable shape back then.

Hope this info could be useful.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tsarevich Alexei fan13 on August 19, 2010, 11:47:04 AM
Great photos!
A minitaure painting based on a photo
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Queens/tatiana.jpg)

Thank you for the painting! I was just wondering if that painting was copyrighted or not?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on August 21, 2010, 11:31:37 AM
Are the other minatures posted in this forum or did they not exist?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on August 21, 2010, 11:17:09 PM
Are the other minatures posted in this forum or did they not exist?

Yes, they are. They are posted one, by one, in each OTMA Forum. And there are two others in the Alix and Nicholas forums too. However, I think they were not dynamite. The most beatiful of them is Tatiana's image. I don't really care for the others. Their eyes are not well painted. I mean that their expressions seems to show that all of them had crossed eyes!  ;)

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on September 12, 2010, 12:55:12 PM
Close-up of Tatiana Nikolaevna in 1906:
http://img826.imageshack.us/i/tatiana1906.jpg/
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on September 20, 2010, 01:32:26 AM
I sometimes think Tatiana looks so determined in her photos because one had to stay very still so the photo would not blur. Today we  don't know what that was like. She  strikes me as someone who concentrates completely when at a task  and that shows  in her face.
I think  she was quite sensitive really and you can see that in her photos of her as a child imo.  It seems to me,  they all had very strong personalities, just in  different areas ....but they all could make their presence known when they wished! lol!   
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on September 20, 2010, 08:29:36 AM
I sometimes think Tatiana looks so determined in her photos because one had to stay very still so the photo would not blur.

By the turn of the century, photo technology had improved enough that this was no longer the case. The informal photos taken by the IF are pretty much equivalent to our modern snapshots -- a click and the image was captured.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on September 20, 2010, 12:58:48 PM
A formal photograph of Tatiana in 1914. Is the biggest version I've seen:

(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9199/1914mayt9.jpg) (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/1914mayt9.jpg/)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on September 20, 2010, 11:03:38 PM
I sometimes think Tatiana looks so determined in her photos because one had to stay very still so the photo would not blur.

By the turn of the century, photo technology had improved enough that this was no longer the case. The informal photos taken by the IF are pretty much equivalent to our modern snapshots -- a click and the image was captured.

Yes. At the early XX Century, yu wouldn't need to be quiet as a statue just to get a photo. Yo may notice it for the great amount of casual pics of the IF in which they are playing, dancing, moving and so on. Besides, if Tatiana  would look determined for a long exposition before the ohto camera, her sisters and brother would must appear as determined too.  ;) I think it was just her personnality showing at the pics. Anastasia's spunky moods also showed in the pics we have of her, as well as Maria's sweetness and inocence and Olga's complicated character...

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on September 21, 2010, 12:18:31 AM
I'm sure the technology was there, but old habits die hard...it seems to me the Tsar is asking Tatiana to stay quite still as he snaps her picture in 1913 . She looks pretty determined to do so... Of course her personality shows though the photos ... she's  " The Governess" 

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/tatianalivadia1913.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on September 23, 2010, 01:37:41 PM
Tatiana in 1914:
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6133/1914mayt7.jpg) (http://img201.imageshack.us/i/1914mayt7.jpg/)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on September 23, 2010, 11:38:41 PM
larri !! You are blowing me away...AGAIN!! Amazing!  ...WOW Thank you!!!
Was this in something about Faberge frames ? It seems that's what this photo is in .
Truly stunning. The quality ! Thank you again!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on September 24, 2010, 12:28:09 AM
Is that a new photo? I can't tell.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Maria on September 24, 2010, 07:44:56 AM
Is that a new photo? I can't tell.
It’s not rare. It’s this photo:
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_Tatyana1914.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/Tatyana1914.jpg)
Oh Larri!! Thank you sooo much for those big pictures!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on September 24, 2010, 09:00:01 AM
You're welcome everyone! =) It was part of a fabergé frame I once found in Christies=)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on October 01, 2010, 02:24:01 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_tanyatennis.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/tanyatennis.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on October 02, 2010, 01:58:36 PM
I love this photograph =)
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3290/180tat.jpg) (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/180tat.jpg/)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on October 03, 2010, 03:55:04 AM
Absolutely new for me, thanks so much! When was it taken?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on October 03, 2010, 04:32:22 AM
Absolutely new for me, thanks so much! When was it taken?

It was taken between 1899-1900
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on October 03, 2010, 11:23:08 AM
Tatiana is so tiny there, she looks just a year old! That photo so reminds me of the famous one of Tatiana and Uncle Ernie on the Standart much later....same happy expression on thier  faces,  but then it's Uncle Ernie doing the hugging . The big pair were close to his little girl,  Ella, who died so tragically ....a special bond.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on October 03, 2010, 01:37:49 PM
Aww!  :) SO cute!  She has bangs there, h'm.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on October 03, 2010, 04:09:42 PM
Aww!  :) SO cute!  She has bangs there, h'm.

Yep. All the girls except Olga had bangs as toddlers.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on October 04, 2010, 12:19:14 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/180.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/1912standart_uncleernie.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on October 13, 2010, 12:50:27 PM
Tatiana in 1908:

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8027/1908tatiana.jpg) (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/1908tatiana.jpg/)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Nicolá De Valerón on October 13, 2010, 01:50:18 PM
Larri, thanks for the photo.

Friendly five cents;). Man sitting with Tatiana is a famous Russian Naval officer, intelligent man with difficult destiny and friend to Kolchak, Rear Admiral (1917) Sergei Nicholaevich Timirev (1875-1932). He was a senior Standart officer before Sablin (from 1907 till 1910).

Btw, maybe you have this photo in a more higher resolution?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on October 14, 2010, 12:14:35 AM
Nicolá, I always appreciate your information about the officers in the photos with the family. Thank you!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on October 14, 2010, 09:22:20 AM
Larri, thanks for the photo.

Friendly five cents;). Man sitting with Tatiana is a famous Russian Naval officer, intelligent man with difficult destiny and friend to Kolchak, Rear Admiral (1917) Sergei Nicholaevich Timirev (1875-1932). He was a senior Standart officer before Sablin (from 1907 till 1910).

Btw, maybe you have this photo in a more higher resolution?

I tried to make it bigger bur unfortunately the quality is not the best =( Thank you very much for the information, is impressing how much you know about the officers that appear on the photos! =)


(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7280/1908big.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/1908big.jpg/)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Nicolá De Valerón on October 14, 2010, 12:57:14 PM

I tried to make it bigger bur unfortunately the quality is not the best =(

Thank you very much.

Btw, are you sure it was taken in 1908? Judging by the Timirev's epaulets (I can see two lines Captain level instead of one for lower officers), it must be taken not early than 1910. He was promoted to 2nd Rank Captain in April of 1910.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on October 14, 2010, 02:02:05 PM

Thank you very much.

Btw, are you sure it was taken in 1908? Judging by the Timirev's epaulets (I can see two lines Captain level instead of one for lower officers), it must be taken not early than 1910. He was promoted to 2nd Rank Captain in April of 1910.
You're welcome=)
The photograph is from Olga Nikolaevna's 1907-1908 album, so I supose it was taken between those years. It is from the russian state archives. Here you have the link:
http://statearchive.ru/435 (http://statearchive.ru/435)

The photograph is on the 6th page =)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 14, 2010, 05:50:57 AM
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6069/granger0107647preview.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/granger0107647preview.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on November 14, 2010, 10:35:36 AM
Very rare!!! Thank you for posting. Is that taken in Mogilev?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on November 14, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
Katenka absolutely rare for me! Thank you very much!

Ally, I entered on the website and it says it was taken between 1917 and 1918 in Tobolsk =)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Justine on November 14, 2010, 11:01:09 AM
could you post link to that website?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on November 14, 2010, 11:47:56 AM
Ally, I entered on the website and it says it was taken between 1917 and 1918 in Tobolsk =)
I was wondering about that....looks like the governors house
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on November 14, 2010, 11:54:18 AM
could you post link to that website?

Here you have =)

http://www.granger.com/
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on November 14, 2010, 04:10:55 PM
Ally, I entered on the website and it says it was taken between 1917 and 1918 in Tobolsk =)
I was wondering about that....looks like the governors house

This website is mistaken. The molding along the roofline clearly doesn't match the governor's house in Tobolsk:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tobolsk%20mansion/th_FrontExteriorcontemp.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tobolsk%20mansion/?action=view&current=FrontExteriorcontemp.jpg)

I think it's more likely the governor's house in Mogilev. Here's a photo from Mogilev which is often mislabeled as having been taken in Tobolsk:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Stavka/th_GovhouseMogilev.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Stavka/?action=view&current=GovhouseMogilev.jpg)
IMO, the architectural features in Katenka's photo are a much closer match to this house.

But a rare and excellent photo nonetheless!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on November 15, 2010, 06:42:27 AM
Sarushka thank you for the correction and the information=)
BlessOTMA, you're welcome!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on November 16, 2010, 03:11:17 PM
I also think that one was taken in Mogilev, the background behind doesn't match with the Tobolsk's one. And I must admit, her dress says that the photo was taken during the Imperial time. Well done on finding it!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Condecontessa on November 18, 2010, 08:38:13 PM
I wonder if that pic was taken during the same time with Olga that is in the book End of the Romanovs?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on November 19, 2010, 07:30:34 AM
I wonder if that pic was taken during the same time with Olga that is in the book End of the Romanovs?

Certainly similar, but not the same day:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/th_tatianaolgasummer1913.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/?action=view&current=tatianaolgasummer1913.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on November 19, 2010, 09:52:21 AM
I wonder if that pic was taken during the same time with Olga that is in the book End of the Romanovs?

Certainly similar, but not the same day:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/th_tatianaolgasummer1913.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/?action=view&current=tatianaolgasummer1913.jpg)
Thank you Sarushka, I was looking for that one. Tatiana seems more mature in the one Katenka_Fyodorovna found ( thanks again!) Also what is interesting about the two Governor houses is while they can appear similar,( windows and rain pipes! )  the one at Mogilev is a "lighter" building for want of a better work. The governor's house at Tobolsk is more solid, almost like  a fortress. The house at Mogilev  seems more likely to have such a second story balcony. In Tobolsk the only balcony I have seen is the masonary one over the front door and not nearly as long 
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6069/granger0107647preview.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/granger0107647preview.jpg/)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on November 22, 2010, 05:10:39 AM
Big pair nursing:
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/bigpairnursing.jpg
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on November 22, 2010, 10:42:53 AM
Ooh, wow, never seen that one before.
Who are the soldiers, does anyone know?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Condecontessa on November 22, 2010, 03:30:13 PM
I don't know but I think they are officers.
The pic must have came from the Royal Russia book but it doesn't have a date. Would anyone know the date for the pic?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on November 22, 2010, 10:36:12 PM
Has to be early cause they are in white...which I believe they wore before earning their Red Crosses ( but that could be wrong) ..and also that's a screen from the family's own sick room ! The man in bed has to be an officer as that's who came to their hospital. However the man between the BP could be a regular solder orderly...unless they were officers as well...just corporals and sargents...  It's interesting how both of Tatiana's hands  are touching the bed and she is looking at us, while  Olga doesn't look too engaged  in what is going on. TN had a talent for the order and exactness that  nursing requires. She missed it while in captivity . The limes are to prevent  scurvy I'm guessing...plus there is a heat lamp! Looking at the officer in the bed,it seems he has lost his right arm 

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_TayaOlgaPatient1915.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/TayaOlgaPatient1915.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on November 23, 2010, 03:30:34 AM
Blessotma your file picture says it was taken in 1915, is that right?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on November 23, 2010, 09:29:24 AM
Not sure.... I would think late 1914, but there are many on the forum who would know better!  Interestingly , they and the items are posed in such a way  to make it seem a photo taken expressly for the press.... That orderly looks terrified! lol! 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on November 23, 2010, 10:48:43 PM
Time for a Tatiana photo. Looks like Anastasia and the Heir are with her...and she seems annoyed and not  too pleased to be photographed just then!
 
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_tanyacarriage.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/tanyacarriage.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on November 28, 2010, 12:14:45 AM
Alix receiving some gentlemen in an official capacity ...Tatiana Nicholaievna  looks dubious .
Alexis and his sailor nanny caps are visible over the gentleman's left shoulder

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_AFTN.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/AFTN.jpg)
from N.V. Sabline's "Ten years aboard the imperial yacht Standart"
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on December 14, 2010, 04:24:49 AM
As a nurse:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_tatiana_-_nurse.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view&current=tatiana_-_nurse.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on December 14, 2010, 11:50:09 AM
Is it just me, or in that outfit she looks more like a nun than a nurse?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on December 15, 2010, 03:49:01 AM

You’re not the only one Tim, I always thought the nurse dress in that time is somehow similar to nun dress. Here is another picture of Tatiana as a nurse:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_tanya_-_nurse.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view&current=tanya_-_nurse.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on December 16, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
A close up for Tatiana with Alix and Anastasia. Nicholas Demenkov is behind Tatiana.
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_1916ta.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view&current=1916ta.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on December 16, 2010, 03:13:15 PM
Ah!
voyageroffreedom ! I have been looking for that one in my own files! Thank you!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on December 18, 2010, 08:10:27 AM
You’re welcome Annie :) . Here is the full picture:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_9538ad1cb29f.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view&current=9538ad1cb29f.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olgasha on December 19, 2010, 05:13:52 AM
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1161/tatianka1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on December 19, 2010, 08:30:52 AM
Here is the full picture that Olgasha posted. Is Tatiana pulling Olga hair here?
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_098875323456765.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view&current=098875323456765.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on December 21, 2010, 10:22:17 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5210/5282144648_27274b7545_b.jpg)

Not a new picture, but excellent quality.  Download for full size.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on December 22, 2010, 04:52:59 AM
Anastasia, Maria, Tatiana and Nicholas in Livadia from Russian state archive:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/fileCAOCZ3H2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on December 22, 2010, 10:43:54 PM
nice VOF! Thank you! ....it looks like they are all wearing the same dress...just that the Little Pair's hems are shorter of course

Tatiana with her regiment and her father Aug 1913...after review and lunch ...and I just noticed she wearing her Order of St Catherine.
Of course this is known...I just scaned it big =)

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_aug1913TN.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/aug1913TN.jpg)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on December 24, 2010, 02:38:01 PM
nice VOF! Thank you! ....it looks like they are all wearing the same dress...just that the Little Pair's hems are shorter of course

Tatiana with her regiment and her father Aug 1913...after review and lunch ...and I just noticed she wearing her Order of St Catherine.
Of course this is known...I just scaned it big =)

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_aug1913TN.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/aug1913TN.jpg)

Thanks, it was actually taken on August 5th 1913, there is Olga's diary entry written on the same day -- the photographer was Karl Bulla.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 10, 2011, 06:51:04 AM
Sorry for the size, Nicky and Tatiana in Denmark courtesy of Russian archives:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/nicky_tatiana.png)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 10, 2011, 10:00:39 AM
In Darmstadt, actually.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 10, 2011, 04:47:18 PM
Thanks Gd Ally for the correction, I wrote it in a hurry it is indeed taken in Darmstadt, Germany.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 19, 2011, 02:59:29 AM
Tatiana riding her bike, I don't know why but this picture reminds me of another pictue where Olga riding her bike and Anastasia walking beside her:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/bike.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on January 19, 2011, 10:09:18 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Anastasia/th_olgabike.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Anastasia/olgabike.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_outing.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/outing.jpg)
very likely the same day. Tatiana's outfit appears darker in her bike photo,
but that seems later in the day or in a more wooded area 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on January 23, 2011, 11:02:24 PM
Tatiana close up 1911

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_TN11.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/TN11.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on January 24, 2011, 10:29:03 PM
Lovely! And what about this one?

(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/1250/21065872.jpg)


RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 25, 2011, 03:35:58 AM
A cropping from a formal picture:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_TatianaFormal1.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view&current=TatianaFormal1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 26, 2011, 04:24:18 AM
I tried to crop and make this bigger:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/nurse.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sara Araújo on January 26, 2011, 09:36:12 AM
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAACMOQTNl8VfKkUWd6K1HtZucHgVILQSWzUGkASQq5resvadq5y9NOB5sbVF8yjIDDWZkdBEJ27sLTy6Hu1k3QuAAm1T1UDBR-iodqeUfAAEyetG1DTIMeJ2w.jpg)

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAM_1jwrJpog48mND95iQa3ImQHhjO8OFbEie8jAXwr8lG9WC6z0g-HiWmUpMEnD94DEX1Ls-kAAReuFPyu1gb0IAm1T1UPWEfwyTylNJJ6zsDmvtUa89DvyZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on January 26, 2011, 02:00:05 PM
Close up of Tatiana in 1904:
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5273/1904tatiana.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/1904tatiana.jpg/)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 27, 2011, 03:52:38 AM
One of my favorite pictures of Tatiana:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/tatiana001.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sara Araújo on January 27, 2011, 10:06:04 AM
With her father:

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAJlLtSIzYfFJes7sBSWYihQmeGwlhlxf-WaMflIrIPUatg6SwvTUSMIBiD4TrH-_00f5lv8rHCfiIxb1MEjyD1gAm1T1UCzsTKaIlr-mZnyJ02hQnrjfe4ou.jpg)

Smiling:

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAMqiQPzEXGZFPfxRDay9GBK0tVxkGFo73Rt1bw5kQuZRQE616iUsFuFNe48raYcHFyAmylQB8j9QkmbradVqgD4Am1T1UDfy7axi-Kyqc3NOvy71vY-UsG2a.jpg)

And in the summer:

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAACPtOD09gGzsrxQXbw9y0bB9dkWGibtCh4PRFjL_cjChqaRJBCRrSR1prtlMuYnVTkrt4fnHDYxJr5kyaZa9oz8Am1T1UFclX0htZ6P3GI5bncsOf3Dl_chn.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: EmmyLee on January 27, 2011, 06:51:26 PM
It seems we've really been into posting zoomed crops. I figured I'd contribute with some that I scanned. I think this is a gorgeous profile shot of Tatiana.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/th_taclose.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/?action=view&current=taclose.jpg)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/th_togetherclose.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/?action=view&current=togetherclose.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/th_tclose.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/?action=view&current=tclose.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 28, 2011, 04:14:39 AM
I found it amazing how she resembles Alexei in this picture:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00234015nj.jpg)
Big Pair:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/bigpaircloseup.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 29, 2011, 04:26:30 AM
You’re welcome Tim =)
Some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/vof16.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/vof20.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/vof21.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 30, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
Close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00254006j.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/b46d9fd98972j.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/b4830338e6666-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on January 30, 2011, 11:30:42 AM
Where are you finding these great pictures?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 30, 2011, 11:43:45 AM
Where are you finding these great pictures?


Tim, they are just close ups from Beinecke Albums and Statearchive =)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on January 31, 2011, 05:42:47 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Tatiana%20Nicolaievna/th_DPjumping.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Tatiana%20Nicolaievna/DPjumping.jpg)
=)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on January 31, 2011, 08:48:59 AM
Some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/1000072t.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/1000073t.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/1000154ta.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sara Araújo on February 01, 2011, 06:07:23 AM
A few more:

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAJ11e3yyLwoqHZydC_ieoX20fKwfUQprfji2cHqY1DuRodYQHw7y9RpVURIuIsGUO_9i9mlrkobdT2YZOAW7-rgAm1T1UArku1uaLw0NWWdcy3UETlHDjqZZ.jpg)

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAAoajXjEtkdCNTlzr7Y94mxvNr25mB-EJQQuW720ah3W7qlewD4yBvWBm6TQaJ3b3evOkDtI-jUVLLHLHvlfWJsAm1T1UMKbRqj7Y33nzqA3dCZpLbJ3xPpK.jpg)

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAGKxKS5MpPZa_drXBJJ0CRjb0a2zk8oJ81Mh31WNEOMZ5DKJApfocmihPWSK3hS4nOlzgC-CDxcM9FAwlFFvynIAm1T1UAXhbKCPmuUAKfg8UdTbC9oJI6LT.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 02, 2011, 05:13:31 AM
Good job Sara.

Some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00214004.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/1000984t.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/t75578.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 04, 2011, 04:59:11 AM
Some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00104010.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00124006.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00174005.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on February 04, 2011, 10:05:21 PM
Tatiana looks beatiful in all three las photos...But I can't help to dislike the polka-dot dress. I never find this set of dotted dresses that all OTMA had.

By the way...Someone knows the real color of those dresses?

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on February 05, 2011, 01:58:38 AM
RealAnastasia, the dresses that are all poke a dots are red... We have Anastasia's  album where she coloured them so to prove that. In the tennis photo, I would guess the blouse is red and white, the skirt, a deep blue. Where the black and white photo looks grey...that is often  the clour red
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on February 05, 2011, 12:47:28 PM
I think so!
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8315/1907flathat.png)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sara Araújo on February 05, 2011, 04:23:25 PM
A few more close-ups:

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAANlvgsmAWqoOM4InfbLyzvm5efCt4QOzCRqpVADN-eA3WBg_y4PMHaq0a0NseyVBfkH-1f3VROuavXqkisFcr8sAm1T1UE63Lm12e3TIioZCgqpuNuklmNWv.jpg)

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAPj0PO5nwv7ZgsJIPb-iNwKYjkSCpbeXqUZUmp7w6DzSllWPuSiYCleEMIMsAsITZ3TbigE1c4lIYijnb01MZc4Am1T1UI1WwNSBi40w9-M1P-TKdNnusLrv.jpg)

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OQAAAME0n5i9EASt8XJZ_RYhzceoP3OZYFh96q95yWCPhHo2UEhc0nVKUSCaMOPZ1fkhNFnmJdWOpfJzv3DxtSxfyncAm1T1UBSzXmG7j_LcUDsW2evKpIweUkpK.jpg)

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAABVl5TAx6dH7dl9ddZ0hbvqiAHn6BL7lp_A1jN6ifvji6HQSoHIZ6PMmQJurbR7nvwSnIuF8ZBjg-jp7Tq6g88Am1T1UExdQ2ZlKA377QiyvxDTaFV2S9_A.jpg)

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAHESXPia99bIu5c3lVYPvrpumIWWJX3Ul2F1kVvbKZRoFZ5jDhv99UwriPtniuV90304iatupfoS_QvNRuW9PYQAm1T1UJpyPnVzjGKqgwj6EekR2b6HkKEZ.jpg)

(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAADna-piOjJlZRSgidtPr8WhT9f82DSHkdizWsTU3Pdo1yGD1l-H9URUjW9usnaGxkEHgLmgUNvJ0VbZB-NOj9L0Am1T1UCxvrJiFL2nxFj2AYNAIHqwXBiD5.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: EmmyLee on February 05, 2011, 08:57:38 PM
The swimming one is Anastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 06, 2011, 03:29:20 AM
Some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00254002tt.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/1000058t.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00204004t.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sara Araújo on February 06, 2011, 02:25:49 PM
The swimming one is Anastasia.

My bad!  :) I've always thought it was Tatiana. They really looked alike here.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 08, 2011, 03:40:55 AM
Some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/tatiana_closeup.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00084002t.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/1001391a.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tatiana Z on February 09, 2011, 08:20:49 AM
Tatiana .
Photographed at Tobolsk, Siberia, while detained there with her family from August 1917 until April 1918


(http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/1102/94/aa3ccf164118t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s51.radikal.ru/i132/1102/94/aa3ccf164118.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on February 09, 2011, 08:25:03 AM
This can't be the governor's house in Tobolsk -- the balcony railing and the trim along the roofline don't match. ;^)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on February 09, 2011, 10:39:25 AM
I think it's Mogliev. I saw it labeled as such somewhere. Pretty outfit she's wearing!  :D
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2011, 09:04:24 AM
I think it's Mogliev. I saw it labeled as such somewhere. Pretty outfit she's wearing!  :D

That's very possible. The governor's house at Mogilev is often mislabeled as the governor's house in Tobolsk.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on February 11, 2011, 06:47:53 PM
speaking of balconies and where are they...this  photo was sold in a Christies in the early 90's as the BP on the balcony in Tobolsk.
But it doesn't seem big enough and I believe that balcony had open railings . However both photos seem taken on a perhaps second balcony...buildings had a number

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_bpwhere.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/bpwhere.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on February 11, 2011, 07:40:46 PM
It also seems to have been taken too early for 1917...more like 1912, considering the hats, but if it was at Mogliev, it would have had to be during the war. Nice photo, should go in the 'Tatiana smiling' thread!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Condecontessa on February 12, 2011, 07:30:31 AM
I'm beginning to suspect that the balcony pics were taken from Krasnoe Selo during the annual summer reviews. They look too young to be in Mogilev. And the houses behind them seems close to each other.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on February 12, 2011, 06:18:35 PM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_TNboat.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/TNboat.jpg)

cute as can be TN...plus a bonus:  seeing exactly how people got off and on the yacht
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: EmmyLee on February 12, 2011, 08:21:57 PM
Nice find! I think you can see the stairs in some other photos, or at least the top of them. Like these:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/th_oaan.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/?action=view&current=oaan.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/th_92.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/?action=view&current=92.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/th_79.jpg[/IMG [/URL] [URL=http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/?action-view&current=1000783.jpg][IMG]http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/th_1000783.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/?action=view&current=79.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/th_00024004.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/?action=view&current=00024004.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/th_alixotmastandart1914.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/?action=view&current=alixotmastandart1914.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2011, 08:25:00 PM
They look too young to be in Mogilev. And the houses behind them seems close to each other.

Good observation. Here's a photo of the house at Mogilev for comparison:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Stavka/th_mogilev1915.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Stavka/?action=view&current=mogilev1915.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on February 12, 2011, 10:44:26 PM
Now, it's the turn of more cropping from "The Governess"...

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5203/tanyacropped.jpg)
 
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8688/tatianatobolsk.jpg)


RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on February 13, 2011, 04:42:28 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_TNboat.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/TNboat.jpg)

cute as can be TN...plus a bonus:  seeing exactly how people got off and on the yacht

BlessOTMA I love Tatiana's face in this photo! Could you please tell me when it was taken? Thank you! =)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 13, 2011, 05:45:25 AM
Annie thank you for that picture in reply #263 new to me; some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00254017t.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/00234009t.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/1002306t.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on February 13, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
BlessOTMA I love Tatiana's face in this photo! Could you please tell me when it was taken? Thank you! =)
Yes Tatiana face could squeeze itself into the very picture of glee. =)  And its always adorable when she does . Sablin's  book itself says " 1906-07 " in the caption ,
so even he was unsure.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 21, 2011, 05:38:46 AM
Tatiana on Standart 1914:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/standart1914.jpg)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on March 05, 2011, 11:42:01 AM
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5849/1901r.png)

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2250/1900e.jpg)

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5631/1912m.jpg)

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/747/1905.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on March 13, 2011, 08:08:41 AM
Big Pair nursing:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_BPnursing.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view&current=BPnursing.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 13, 2011, 10:01:59 AM
Thanks! Like the size....love how the patients are wearing their medals on their robes!
Lord knows I would!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on March 14, 2011, 05:04:32 AM
Found this on eBay, not new but better size:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/KGrHqUOKpIE1qzFmOOBNfR-Hmc9Q_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on March 14, 2011, 05:35:57 PM
 Re: photo on reply 239. I always thought that was from Governor's Mansion in Tobolsk. I now think it's from Mogilev. Tatiana's  dress, hat, and overall  appearance are more suggestive of the comfortable setting at Stavka in Mogilev (prerevolution) than of the situation in Tobolsk where the mood was generally more  subdued and somber.
Besides, the view seems relatively closeup and from the left which was not the case for Tobolsk balcony photos. Also in the background are what appear to be telegraph poles in a flat expanse, definitely not the more citified neighborhood of the Gov's House in Tobolsk.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 19, 2011, 04:19:17 PM
not new but very clear

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RAeNKfbzC_c/TNsj004_FdI/AAAAAAAAAGI/bzTsKdiwLcs/s1600/Tatiana3b.jpg)

I love her soft smile in this pic...she looks elegant like the daughter of a emperor
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 19, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
This is usually seen with TN cropped totally out....now not all of her was photographed at the time sadly.
However what was taken is lovely and should be seen...a great photo of the girls in any case

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_we4.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/we4.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 20, 2011, 01:38:18 AM
and this seems the same time

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_DPANONMN.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/DPANONMN.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 23, 2011, 01:23:44 AM
Indeed Tim...May 1916
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_may1916.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/may1916.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_TN1916.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/TN1916.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Holly on March 23, 2011, 11:14:31 PM
Love the photograph blessOTMA posted of the girls laying on each other. I've always wished Tatiana was showing. It's a very touching one.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/Romanov_Albums/Tatiana%20Nicholaievna/th_IMG_2667.jpg) (http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/Romanov_Albums/Tatiana%20Nicholaievna/?action=view&current=IMG_2667.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 14, 2011, 10:08:20 AM
In uniform

(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1341/sdirhfaeri.jpg) (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/sdirhfaeri.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on April 19, 2011, 07:37:45 AM
Not new but bigger:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_Tatiana3.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view&current=Tatiana3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on April 22, 2011, 05:59:46 AM
Olga and Tatiana:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_tatianaolga.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view&current=tatianaolga.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on May 02, 2011, 09:48:22 AM
I've never seen this one in full:
(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/4785/1911tat.jpg) (http://img847.imageshack.us/i/1911tat.jpg/)

It's similar than this well known photo:
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3600/1911tat2.jpg) (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/1911tat2.jpg/)

The only difference is that in the first oneTatiana is serious while in the second is smilng
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on May 03, 2011, 03:20:15 AM
Tatiana and Nicholas:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_470616961_o.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view&current=470616961_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on May 03, 2011, 08:37:13 AM
Looks like Naryshkina with Nicholas. Is that Sonia Orbeliani in the little wicker wheelchair?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on May 03, 2011, 09:21:31 AM
I was wondering about that as well, the woman in the wheelchair does look like Sonia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on May 03, 2011, 11:25:42 AM
What a beautiful picture!
Here's a crop of just Tatiana:
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9311/1913d.jpg)
It's at Livadia, right, in 1913? It's her typhoid wig she's wearing, so it must be 1913.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RHB on May 03, 2011, 11:28:16 AM
Thank you for the crop... and it's clear too! It looks like 1914 since i believe that's her bob there actually!  :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on May 03, 2011, 01:03:47 PM
Now at a closer look, I believe you're right! 1914, last happy summer before the war...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on May 03, 2011, 01:21:12 PM
A photo of Sonia for comparison:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/th_withsonia.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/?action=view&current=withsonia.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on May 03, 2011, 02:15:51 PM
Sarushka, your identification of Sonia O off to the side in post 274's photo is spot on and why you deserve to be a mod for this board. Nice eyes!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on May 03, 2011, 03:16:02 PM
Sarushka, your identification of Sonia O off to the side in post 274's photo is spot on and why you deserve to be a mod for this board. Nice eyes!

You are very nice. I will confess: if not for the wheelchair, I would not have recognized her!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on May 07, 2011, 02:22:37 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_ATONdnieper1916.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/ATONdnieper1916.jpg)   
1916 TN front and center....along with AN , ON and Nicholas
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on May 13, 2011, 06:14:46 PM
Have we seen this one in full before?  It looks vaguely familiar, but I'm not sure  :-\

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/5717356906_f984f7302e_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: burger queen on May 15, 2011, 01:49:07 PM
(http://s004.radikal.ru/i205/1010/c4/9d1157507181.png)
http://s004.radikal.ru/i205/1010/c4/9d1157507181.png
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria-Nikolaevna on May 15, 2011, 05:41:36 PM
That piano (?) in the back is the same as the one in the picture that little anastasia is knitting ---> http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://s4.hubimg.com/u/83423_f520.jpg&imgrefurl=http://hubpages.com/hub/Tsar_Nicholas_II_and_the_Romanov_family&usg=__2LUg4mY58_n0llhzRNeLx--Leu0=&h=434&w=520&sz=45&hl=en&start=32&zoom=1&tbnid=JqRzRGfRrKyfnM:&tbnh=154&tbnw=187&ei=jFbQTenwJ9OctwfIqYH7DQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Danastasia%2Bromanov%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1362%26bih%3D526%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Dic:gray%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=499&page=3&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:32&tx=79&ty=22
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on May 16, 2011, 02:01:18 AM
yes and there is a photo of Olga taken almost the same time a few moments later after this one was snapped ...if the clock on the piano was right! lol!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria-Nikolaevna on May 16, 2011, 05:58:18 PM
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h464/mashka2/1000984t.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on May 18, 2011, 01:06:52 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_TNNA.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/TNNA.jpg)

From the book, Royal Russia
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Condecontessa on May 18, 2011, 08:34:01 PM
Who is the person behind TN?

It might be Maria or Olga.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RHB on May 18, 2011, 09:00:45 PM
I say it's Maria judging by the fact that her height is almost closest to Tatiana and from what you can see of the face it looks like Maria! But that's just my opinion of course!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on May 18, 2011, 10:39:37 PM
The book just says"  daughters" ... at first I thought, Marie...but now I'm thinking Olga. Marie was just about  as tall as TN at this point...but I don't think it's possible to be 100% sure either way  unless someday we see other photos  from  this moment
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: imperial angel on May 24, 2011, 04:54:43 AM
In a RHB's picture avatar above(signature area) where the "T" picture is Tatiana in the 1914 Formal photographs,does anyone know what kind of flower she is posing by? Just curious.That's one of my favorite pictures of her, and I can't ever recall asking what type of flower it was..
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Justine on May 24, 2011, 05:36:30 AM
the flower she's posing by is Lilac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syringa)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: voyageroffreedom on May 24, 2011, 02:46:54 PM
Not new but good quality:
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/th_0293_6_lg.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/?action=view&current=0293_6_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on May 25, 2011, 03:50:31 AM
I know this is well-known, but I've never seen it so full and clear. Tatiana in 1914 from romanovrussia.com:

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/633/1914tatiana.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/801/1914tatiana.jpg/)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: burger queen on June 17, 2011, 02:10:59 PM
Cute :
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldln2e0MdN1qcfftgo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on June 17, 2011, 05:32:35 PM
Pretty well known, but I've never seen it so... sharp, clear before. There's some question as to whether it's Olga or Tatiana, but I think it's Tatiana, because Alexandra's hairdo and dress are different from the ones she wore in Olga baby photos. It's so cute how it appears that Alix is trying to teach Tatiana how to read at like...6 months. Adorable photo showing how much Alexandra loved her children, and how good of a mother she was, (except how later on she kept them sort of babies...)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on June 17, 2011, 06:47:28 PM
Hm, I wonder who is the baby in the photo on the desk at the right side, could it be Olga Nicholaievna? I can't say for certain, but she 'looks like Olga'.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on June 18, 2011, 12:08:44 AM
Same day:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/NAOTMAA%20assorted/alixtatiana1898.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Condecontessa on June 18, 2011, 09:45:27 AM
The picture on the frame Nena is asking about must be the pic of Olga holding baby Tatiana and they are on a leather chair/couch. It's in the book camera and the tsars.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on June 18, 2011, 09:58:31 AM
The picture on the frame Nena is asking about must be the pic of Olga holding baby Tatiana and they are on a leather chair/couch. It's in the book camera and the tsars.

This one?

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_babytatolga.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=babytatolga.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Condecontessa on June 18, 2011, 10:00:54 AM
Yes, we are just used to seeing the cropped portion of the whole entire pic.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on June 18, 2011, 11:45:37 AM
Eh, it could be the one! So we are now more certain that the baby in the photo is Grand Duchess Tatiana. And we have discovered one more formal photo in full version. :-)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: burger queen on June 20, 2011, 01:27:43 PM
(http://thumb4.webshots.net/t/96/96/6/6/90/2212606900102268464dxYTRw_th.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2212606900102268464dxYTRw)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Condecontessa on June 20, 2011, 07:38:40 PM
Is that NII with Tatiana?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: burger queen on June 21, 2011, 01:20:27 PM
It is for sure :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: burger queen on June 23, 2011, 06:00:59 PM
(http://thumb4.webshots.net/t/64/764/0/47/46/2991047460102753164JnYmQA_th.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2991047460102753164JnYmQA)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on June 23, 2011, 09:05:07 PM
Looks like Sablin with Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on June 24, 2011, 11:25:07 AM
We're probably clear on this by now but the baby girl in post 292 is overwhelmingly, and classically,  little Tatiana. And definitely cute.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on June 24, 2011, 11:52:39 AM
Looks like Sablin with Tatiana.
I think same. It was taken at Livadia in spring of 1914. You can see the mountains behind, and is that the Black Sea seen behind?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Bernice on July 23, 2011, 09:15:20 PM
*This future photo belongs to GD Ally's lovely site. You can access it here (http://romanovsisters.webs.com).*

I love this photo of Tatiana. She is so gorgeous!

(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll299/Romanovy/artwork/Grand_Duchess_Tatiana_1906_by_Velko.jpg)

Especially with Ally's coloring! Beautimous!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ekaterina-Nikolaevna on August 12, 2011, 06:34:48 AM
I've never seen these before - has anyone else?
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i367/kateannnoblet/TATIANAANDPRINCENICHOLASOFGREECE.jpg)
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i367/kateannnoblet/tumblr_llcnpwtoEF1qa2zhno1_1280.jpg)
with Prince Nicholas of Greece, 1897/98.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 12, 2011, 08:02:30 AM
This is my favortie in that group....
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_180.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/180.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Talya on August 13, 2011, 02:00:16 AM
I have seen all of them except the second one. Adorable, and I right? :) the man is Ernest of Hesse right?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ekaterina-Nikolaevna on August 13, 2011, 05:04:52 AM
I have seen all of them except the second one. Adorable, and I right? :) the man is Ernest of Hesse right?

Prince Nicholas of Greece, actually, although I can see why you'd say Ernest of Hesse! They both look very similar!
I'm sure there is some photos of TN with Ernest taken at that time, though...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 13, 2011, 09:33:33 AM
The man in Ekaterina-Nikolaevna's two photos is indeed Prince Nicholas of Greece.The man in the photo I posted is Ernest of Hesse .
TN looks to be in the same outfit, so it's likely they were taken the same time. I believe this was in 1899...and TN looks about two.
oh and adorable ....one has to add =)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Talya on August 13, 2011, 01:44:24 PM
Is that a giant birdcage in the background of the second photo?! Please don't tell me little TN was kept in a birdcage!

(oh and thank you for the info blessOTMA :))
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Bernice on August 13, 2011, 06:46:25 PM
Thanks for pointing that out Talya . . . I hadn't noticed. Yeah, I'm sure Nicholas II wanted to start a new "thing" - keep your daughters in a birdcage! Especially if they're adorable as my Tatiana is! ;)

Oh my, she was so cute!! Now, I have a question - my hair is CURLY. And it is naturally like that - it had been all my life. But whenever I was one or two and I look back at family photos, my hair always stuck up around my face - sort of like an afro, except in a cute, baby way. You know, little ringlets. Anywho, Tatiana's looks really curly, like mine was, but did she grow up to have curly hair, or was it just in early years? I've never really been able to see, although I suppose there could have been some waviness in some of the photos . . . or maybe it was just the wind?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Talya on August 13, 2011, 07:09:09 PM
I was thinking when I saw that birdcage, omg that is Tatiana size!! ;D their hair curled naturally, I believe it was Alix that said that when she described the girls hair in 1917.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Holly on August 13, 2011, 07:22:00 PM
I believe only Maria's hair curled naturally after it was cut, and the other girls were jealous.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Bernice on August 13, 2011, 08:34:45 PM
Oh - so did all of their hair have some curl to it (except after it was cut) or just Tatiana's and Maria's?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on August 13, 2011, 11:04:54 PM
I think that it was Anastaisa the only one who didn't have a naturally curly hair...Her hair was quite straight.

RealAnastasia
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 14, 2011, 01:08:53 AM
I read somewhere that  after their illness and their hair was cut, only Marie's  grew back curly. Otherwise it would take some time and length to be able to do anything with it. ....
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Talya on August 15, 2011, 02:50:59 AM
I think it could have been curled naturally over their head? It could have just been Maria's though...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: LauraO on August 15, 2011, 11:34:17 AM
I was thinking when I saw that birdcage, omg that is Tatiana size!! ;D their hair curled naturally, I believe it was Alix that said that when she described the girls hair in 1917.

anybody got the extract from whenever alix said this? (if it was alix)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Talya on August 15, 2011, 04:49:42 PM
I don't remember the extract, but I think it was in a letter to someone.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: EmmyLee on August 17, 2011, 06:29:34 PM
I took a closer look at this framed photo of Tatiana and realized that it's different from this other one I'd had before:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/th_47-20-352_Star-Frame_600.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/?action=view&current=47-20-352_Star-Frame_600.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/th_Tanaajejhulni.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/?action=view&current=Tanaajejhulni.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Talya on August 17, 2011, 06:34:49 PM
Two different photos from around the same time? (reminds me of Olga's 16th birthday, with the guys from her regiment.)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on August 17, 2011, 08:08:33 PM
I took a closer look at this framed photo of Tatiana and realized that it's different from this other one I'd had before:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/th_47-20-352_Star-Frame_600.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/?action=view&current=47-20-352_Star-Frame_600.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/th_Tanaajejhulni.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/?action=view&current=Tanaajejhulni.jpg)

These may have been taken on the day Tatiana was named chief of her regiment -- 12 January 1911.


Two different photos from around the same time? (reminds me of Olga's 16th birthday, with the guys from her regiment.)

I know the photos you mean. I'm not sure whether they were taken on her 16th birthday or not, because according to Daniel Briere she was given her regiment on 11 July 1909...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Bernice on August 17, 2011, 09:26:11 PM
Oh - so they got their regiments on their 14th birthday? That would make sense - hair down. Interesting!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Talya on August 18, 2011, 09:55:53 PM
Usually they were given their regiments when the were 14 usually on namedays.

Olga- 1909
Tatiana- 1911
Anastasia- 1915

(Maria's is confusing. Following the pattern hers would have been 1913, but she had been Chief of the 9th Dragoons since 1912. Supposedly she got it for her 13th birthday in 1912. She received it at the youngest age of all her sisters.)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on August 19, 2011, 05:36:28 AM
What a twist - it's interesting! But Olga and Tatiana were both rather 13 and more than a half year in July of 1909 and January of 1911. (both of them were given there regiment approx. 4 months before their 14th birthday). I'd say that 13 -13, 5 years were 'the lower limit'(leaning towards 14 yrs). for getting their regiments (OTM). Also, the difference between 1909/11/13/15 is 2 years, same as the sisters' ages differences, and all four got them when they were at last 13.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Bernice on August 19, 2011, 09:58:00 AM
What a twist - it's interesting! But Olga and Tatiana were both rather 13 and more than a half year in July of 1909 and January of 1911. (both of them were given there regiment approx. 4 months before their 14th birthday). I'd say that 13 -13, 5 years were 'the lower limit'(leaning towards 14 yrs). for getting their regiments (OTM). Also, the difference between 1909/11/13/15 is 2 years, same as the sisters' ages differences, and all four got them when they were at last 13.

So even though Anastasia didn't turn 14 until after the war, she still got a regiment? Or was that just the scheduled date, but it didn't really happen?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on August 19, 2011, 10:12:35 AM
More info on regimental dates from Daniel Briere:

Despite what the Russian caption stating that Maria was Chief of the 9th Dragoons since 1911, my sources say she got this regiment for her 13th birthday, on June 14,1912. If right, she would have received a regiment at a younger age than any of her other sisters :  Olga was named Chief of her 1st regiment, the 3rd Elizavetgradsky Hussars, for her 13th name day  July 11, 1909 as was the case of Tatiana, named Chief of the 8th Voznesensky Lancers on January 12, 1911.  Anastasia got her 148th Kaspiisky Infantry Regiment on December 25, 1915, 3 days after her 14th birthday and name day.


You may also find this thread of interest:
OTMA's regiments (http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=10530.0)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on August 19, 2011, 11:22:05 AM
Thank you! So, my calculations were correct on regarding 13 years, for OTMA at least. Daniel's posts are amazing, I've noticed. When I get some time, I'll look around about it. But Anastasia got it several months after 14th b-day. Probably because of the war. Oops, my alarm warns me that I am in wrong topic...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Talya on August 20, 2011, 06:48:05 PM
Of fudge. I reread my post and it does sound idiotic! I meant 14th name day... *facepalm*
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GrandDuchessIsabelle on September 19, 2011, 01:16:21 PM
http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/Tatiana%20Nikolaevna/?action=view&current=t14.jpg
My favorite of Tatiana. Sorry if already posted!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on January 02, 2012, 05:53:07 PM
Seems rare to me. Just stunning in any case

http://pics.livejournal.com/sosnitsky/pic/00028f7q
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GrandDuchessIsabelle on February 19, 2012, 02:29:35 PM
http://www.geneshapiro.com/201104ximg/148_2b1000asdf.jpg
Not rare, but good quality and a postcard(?). Can anyone translate?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sunny on February 20, 2012, 03:21:17 AM
http://www.geneshapiro.com/201104ximg/148_2b1000asdf.jpg
Not rare, but good quality and a postcard(?). Can anyone translate?

His Imperial Highness Grand Duchess Tatiana Nikolaevna
Roayl Honorary President of the Comitee for the Help of the Victims of War disasters


Hope it's correct in English! It was clear to me the Russian but i'm unsure of English translation!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on February 25, 2012, 12:19:47 AM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/TN1915.jpg)
1915
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Mechminx on March 17, 2012, 03:38:52 AM
Are t here any good photos of Tatiana in a ball gown?

I want to use one for a school project
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GrandDuchessIsabelle on March 17, 2012, 05:03:51 AM
I don't know of any in a ball gown, but here are some of her in Court dress:
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/Tatiana%20Nikolaevna/th_q1.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/Tatiana%20Nikolaevna/?action=view&current=q1.jpg) (http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/Tatiana%20Nikolaevna/th_pict_035.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/Tatiana%20Nikolaevna/?action=view&current=pict_035.jpg) (http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/Tatiana%20Nikolaevna/th_725a31dd.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/Tatiana%20Nikolaevna/?action=view&current=725a31dd.jpg) (http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/Tatiana%20Nikolaevna/th_t11.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/Tatiana%20Nikolaevna/?action=view&current=t11.jpg)
That's all I have in photobucket, but there are loads in her photothreads and on this forum. Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on March 17, 2012, 09:08:13 AM
Some more court gown:
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg11/scaled.php?server=11&filename=30c1f4f4c244824245v1.jpg&res=medium) (http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6131/tanyaga.jpg)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 17, 2012, 01:21:19 PM
nice group Jen!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on March 17, 2012, 03:43:54 PM
Yes they are nice pics, I like them!

Another:
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg853/scaled.php?server=853&filename=tatiana23px.jpg&res=medium)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on July 03, 2012, 10:06:12 PM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_tennis1914.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/tennis1914.jpg)

tennis group 1914
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on July 04, 2012, 08:43:10 AM
Looks like Butakov (http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=14270) beside Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on July 04, 2012, 09:42:21 AM
Indeed and then Sablin next to him. I always have a soft spot for Butakov ,he died so quickly in the war
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: larri* on July 04, 2012, 03:35:16 PM
BlessOTMA that photo is new to me, thank you for posting it! =)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on July 04, 2012, 11:18:09 PM
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_tennis1914.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/tennis1914.jpg)

tennis group 1914

Don't mean to sound naive but when I see pictures like this it just blows my mind. There is an almost unreal sense of content and normalcy here. How does anything bad happen to anyone in this picture? These aren't people in a hopeless war or fending off radical revolutionaries, this is a happy picture of people living in the Midwest or something. Their biggest drama is family illness or whether they're voting for Wilson or Hughes in the upcoming election while they work at diners, or gas stations, or maybe (at most) hold fancy jobs in town.

Tatiana by the way looks amazing here in her simple little pose. Such a princess always!

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on July 05, 2012, 10:35:55 AM
Quote
There is an almost unreal sense of content and normalcy here. How does anything bad happen to anyone in this picture?
One never stops being stumped by that question....particularly for me when I view photos of ceremonies from the 1913 celebrations where tens of thousands are cheering or when the family is having fun together etc. It all beggars belief and yet it's true. 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: rosieposie on July 10, 2012, 04:06:55 AM
What a great collection of photos.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ortipo on September 22, 2012, 05:28:05 PM
тяв!
I just found a huge version of this picture that is 3669 x 4866.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/wissur.jpg)
http://postimage.org/image/cs37igzl1/full/
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on September 22, 2012, 10:31:31 PM
Fantastic find, Ortipo!  May I ask you, though:  what does "тяв-тяв" mean?  I'm afraid my Russian isn't what it should be :-[
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on September 23, 2012, 05:41:59 PM
That is a great picture of Tatiana.   Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on September 23, 2012, 06:35:01 PM
WOW, Thank you!!!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on September 24, 2012, 08:11:38 AM
Thanks for posting it!!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on September 24, 2012, 09:33:37 PM
May I ask you, though:  what does "тяв-тяв" mean? 

bark-bark!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on September 25, 2012, 12:40:52 PM
Oh my goodness, I should have known!  ::)  Thanks for letting me know, though.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on September 25, 2012, 03:17:33 PM
I was wondering what it meant too! Thanks!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ortipo on September 25, 2012, 03:45:39 PM
тяв!

It's a sorta kinda dimunitive form - not a WOOF-WOOF or even an Arf-Arf ---- more like a yip-yip. 
Thank god Ortipo wan't a Chihuahua or else it'd be "тявтявтявтявтявтявтявтявтявтявтявтявтявтявтявтявтявтяв"

This one has been seen by all a zillion times now but is still astounding and is my favorite of TN
(http://i45.tinypic.com/20idppd.jpg)
http://oi45.tinypic.com/20idppd.jpg
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on September 25, 2012, 06:16:34 PM
May be a well known photo, but I agree, Tatiana looks beautiful here.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GrandDuchessIsabelle on September 26, 2012, 02:33:12 PM
Stunning resolution though! Thank you.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on September 27, 2012, 10:16:47 AM
I like that picture of her too.

What is "meow-meow" in Russian?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on September 27, 2012, 11:30:37 AM
Looked up Meow in Russian and got this result....Мяу-Мяу!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 28, 2012, 12:52:22 PM
Clear (and very large if you save it) version of a well known picture.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb2k75yGhS1qzjmo0o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Hikari on September 29, 2012, 04:38:14 AM
It's so nice to see good quality of those photo :)

I know that this photo isn't rare but I tried looking on the forum to find a good version of it but I only saw a small one so I thought I should post it :)

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg47/natsafan/1914-7.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sunny on September 29, 2012, 11:13:59 AM
Looked up Meow in Russian and got this result....Мяу-Мяу!

Lol! In italian we pronounce it just like in Russian and i didn't know it! We write it so - miau miau LOL
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on September 29, 2012, 03:37:52 PM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8029/8036835990_38d177c56f_b.jpg)

Another fantastically large and clear version of a 1914 formal :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on September 29, 2012, 03:39:37 PM
тяв!
I just found a huge version of this picture that is 3669 x 4866.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/wissur.jpg)
http://postimage.org/image/cs37igzl1/full/

I love how Tatiana is caught here between young girlhood and womanhood, that is, somewhere between being  "just a kid" and being , well, you know, a blossoming girl. Beautiful at every stage of her life.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on September 29, 2012, 07:35:16 PM
Wonderful Dru!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on September 29, 2012, 07:55:28 PM
Really! Bigger, clearer, better...thanks everyone. What a flawless looking beauty too. Breathtaking!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on September 30, 2012, 03:33:30 PM
Thanks for the info on "meow-meow" everyone.  My Tatiana does that a lot!  LOL!

Beautiful pictures.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: xwhiterussia on December 01, 2012, 11:35:09 PM
I am not sure if it has been seen before, but I think this was at the Crimea in 1914:  Anastasia, Olga, Nicholas, and Tatiana wait for Maria to fall off the chair and into the water.

(http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/otma1914_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: IvanVII on December 02, 2012, 01:25:04 PM
I am not sure if it has been seen before, but I think this was at the Crimea in 1914:  Anastasia, Olga, Nicholas, and Tatiana wait for Maria to fall off the chair and into the water.

(http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/otma1914_1.jpg)

Can't decide if her father is holding the chair in place as she steps over, or getting ready to pull it out from under her.  :D
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: xwhiterussia on December 02, 2012, 08:21:45 PM
Three of Tatiana. One in which she is with her uncle Ernie, then one of her and Alix,  and another of her with Olga
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6wx0lWgy61rqhwwmo1_400.jpg)
http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/36925260091 (http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/36925260091)
http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/36321737310/ (http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/36321737310/)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on December 03, 2012, 10:25:32 AM
Haven't seen the last one, thank you! What does the sign say?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on December 03, 2012, 04:08:30 PM
Haven't seen the last one, thank you! What does the sign say?

Yargh! You would  ask! I'd seen that photo and sign before and wondered. The quality of the photo  I'd seen prevented my reading it too well. I thought at first it identified the plant or  bush they're standing near. I later saw the sign  translated in one of the several Romanov photo albums or books and was pleased to find its meaning. Too bad I've forgotten and can't enlarge the photo enough to say now.

Still I think I know enough now to say it's " Cape of...... Sasha(Alexander)" I think it's some kind of locational sign, but that's not overly helpful I know. I'm sure you'll have ananswer fairly soon.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: xwhiterussia on December 03, 2012, 04:21:17 PM
Not sure since can't make out what says well. Willing to try to find a larger quality photo if can though.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on December 03, 2012, 04:31:23 PM
That would be helpful; if I can read(see) it well I think I can translate it.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: xwhiterussia on December 03, 2012, 07:56:12 PM
Sadly,quite the while of researching, gave up after looking throughout places like Photobucket, checking other's tumblr accounts to check for better quality, Flickr, and much more. I had even tried to screen cap, but made it look grainy and worse! Another photo that is kind of unresolved to me is this women with Olga,Tatiana(larger in case anyone correctly identity her):
http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/36767816657 (http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/36767816657)
My opinion, looks like one of Windsor relatives, maybe taken Cowes? Think may be Cousin Toria, but too difficult view her face.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 04, 2012, 05:53:04 AM
Nope, its not Victoria of Wales. If she was a Windsor relative, it was Pss Helena Victoria of Schleswig Holstein? (cause it looks more like Thora s profile-)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: xwhiterussia on December 04, 2012, 07:05:46 AM
Ah, yes, I think it may have been her, Carolath. She looks similar to that of other pictures specifically of her, thanks!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on December 04, 2012, 06:04:12 PM
Haven't seen the last one, thank you! What does the sign say?

Haven't seen the last one, thank you! What does the sign say?

Yargh! You would  ask! I'd seen that photo and sign before and wondered. The quality of the photo  I'd seen prevented my reading it too well. I thought at first it identified the plant or  bush they're standing near. I later saw the sign  translated in one of the several Romanov photo albums or books and was pleased to find its meaning. Too bad I've forgotten and can't enlarge the photo enough to say now.

Still I think I know enough now to say it's " Cape of...... Sasha(Alexander)" I think it's some kind of locational sign, but that's not overly helpful I know. I'm sure you'll have ananswer fairly soon.
This sucker has tantalized me since edubs first asked and now I think I have the answer. With a little ingenuity and luck I've tracked it down to : "Dear Sasha's Cape". I still can't  read the second word , but it's very likely 'dear'. I'm far less certain of its overal location, but there was a skating rink nearby. Think Tsarskoe Selo area. Hope no natural Russian speaker slaps me down on this.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: xwhiterussia on December 04, 2012, 10:19:35 PM
Thank you for clarifying, Rodney! I don't think I could have read that without taking a hard glance or being able finding another photo of better quality!
Has this photo popped up yet, I think that person of this blog took a picture from a documentary (which I don't know which one)? I'll take a good guess and say this is Tatiana dressed for a play of theirs. (Year anyone?)
http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/image/37101808137#notes (http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/image/37101808137#notes)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: koloagirl on December 05, 2012, 06:00:38 PM

Aloha!

There is another similar type photo of Maria dressed in the same type of clothing elsewhere as well.  I've never seen either of them in any better quality unfortunately.

I'd like to know more about them, but all I know is that it was some type of "dress up" of some type - whether for a play or not, I don't know.  Also not sure of what year.

Janet R.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Georgiy on December 06, 2012, 12:03:17 AM
I took the photos years ago using a camera in front of the TV, from a VHS documentary. Still have the video somewhere, but can't recall off hand what it's called.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on December 06, 2012, 08:14:22 AM
It's from "Nikolai i Aleksandra."
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: xwhiterussia on December 06, 2012, 11:37:42 PM
http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/37387685898 (http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/37387685898)
Big Pair 

http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/37387669447 (http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/37387669447)
Aunt Olga Alexandrovna with Tatiana and Olga

http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/37387266935 (http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/37387266935)
Big Pair walking along
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Georgiy on December 07, 2012, 01:51:26 AM
I don't remember seeing the second photo with Olga A in it before, thanks!


Sarushka - thanks for reminding me which video that was - have to watch it again!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on December 07, 2012, 08:15:47 AM
Have seen the middle one, I'm sure, but the other two, I have not! Thank you!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: IvanVII on December 07, 2012, 10:01:30 PM
The last one looks like it was taken at Peterhof
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: xwhiterussia on December 13, 2012, 09:35:30 PM
http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/37884107097/ (http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/37884107097/)

Tsar Nicholas II, Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna, Grand Duchess Tatiana Nikolaevna, and Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig of Hesse on board the Imperial yacht “Standart”. At the Crimea 1912.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on December 21, 2012, 07:29:05 PM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8503/8252842703_fa51fe654b_b.jpg)

Tatiana in her nursing uniform.  Nice and clear.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on December 21, 2012, 11:17:24 PM
OMG Dru!!! Stunning!!Thank you!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on December 21, 2012, 11:41:35 PM
OMG Dru!!! Stunning!!Thank you!

Ummm, wow, I second that! Where did this come from? New to me. She looks positively angelic here and I love the angle!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on December 22, 2012, 12:43:44 AM
I believe this photo was used as a postcard during the war...but I've never seen it this clear before. Amazing
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kubo on December 22, 2012, 12:54:05 PM
This web page contains wonderful colored photographs of the imperial family, here you can find colored photographs of Tatiana:
http://otma.blog.cz/1004/kolorovane-fotografie-velkoknezny-tatany (http://otma.blog.cz/1004/kolorovane-fotografie-velkoknezny-tatany)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: xwhiterussia on February 06, 2013, 07:34:36 PM
http://the---governess.tumblr.com/image/42121730643 (http://the---governess.tumblr.com/image/42121730643)
Circa 1911. Can anyone tell which yacht it is?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on February 06, 2013, 08:34:00 PM
http://the---governess.tumblr.com/image/42121730643 (http://the---governess.tumblr.com/image/42121730643)
Circa 1911. Can anyone tell which yacht it is?

I believe that's the Standart.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on February 11, 2013, 03:53:10 AM
There's another photo taken at this time, ( which of course I can't find ) where the seat Olga occupies 
in this photo is  empty and it seems  in that one they were waiting for Alix...if she would not appear, then Olga would
have indeed taken her place as we see in this photo.( just conjecture on my part )
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: matushka on February 11, 2013, 05:02:08 AM

Here is another one, same day. 1912
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/Standartbrodeesgroupe.jpg
There are much more on the Vyrubova's albums.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on February 11, 2013, 01:07:34 PM

Here is another one, same day. 1912
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/Standartbrodeesgroupe.jpg
There are much more on the Vyrubova's albums.


Nice...it's interesting to compare the two photos because here they look glum...while in the first photo posted by xwhiterussia, they are laughing...makes one think the Imp said something funny because everyone is more cheerful and Isa is laughing at/with her while Trina looks pained lol! 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on February 11, 2013, 04:36:48 PM
Yes, I think that too, looks like Imp cracked a silly joke perhaps ;)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tatiana Z on February 12, 2013, 04:07:04 AM
(http://s45.radikal.ru/i107/1302/e0/e6bc70987117t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s45.radikal.ru/i107/1302/e0/e6bc70987117.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tatiana Z on February 12, 2013, 04:12:05 AM
(http://s018.radikal.ru/i523/1302/52/958edd9018f7t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s018.radikal.ru/i523/1302/52/958edd9018f7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tatiana Z on February 12, 2013, 04:17:13 AM
(http://i023.radikal.ru/1302/e6/8c5ed7005d3et.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i023.radikal.ru/1302/e6/8c5ed7005d3e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tatiana Z on February 12, 2013, 04:21:02 AM
(http://s020.radikal.ru/i702/1302/65/077c7e8b7f47t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s020.radikal.ru/i702/1302/65/077c7e8b7f47.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tatiana Z on February 12, 2013, 04:27:33 AM
(http://s43.radikal.ru/i099/1302/d7/1fe5bb603be5t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s43.radikal.ru/i099/1302/d7/1fe5bb603be5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: EmmyLee on February 12, 2013, 01:47:53 PM
These are wonderful! Thank you!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on February 12, 2013, 04:52:43 PM
 If the photos of Tatiana on replies 402 and 404 are from  shortly after her  1913 post-typhoid head- shaving (as I think her and Nicholas' looks and positioning  in 404 suggest  ), then I'm thinking that having her hair cut very short would be a better description of what happened than a complete head shaving. Her hair couldn't have grown to the length shown shown in these two photos , which I suspect were taken about two weeks after her illness at most, if Tatiana had had a completely smooth head shave. Nicholas really does look like he's supporting his recently ill daughter in reply 404.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on February 12, 2013, 08:21:38 PM
Looks like they've scanned even more into the Beinecke albums. Beautiful!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2013, 08:24:18 PM
If the photos of Tatiana on replies 402 and 404 are from  shortly after her  1913 post-typhoid head- shaving (as I think her and Nicholas' looks and positioning  in 404 suggest  ), then I'm thinking that having her hair cut very short would be a better description of what happened than a complete head shaving.

Yes, according to Olga's diary it was "cut short" not shaved, on 5 March 1913. (I think that date is old style, but I'm not positive.)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on February 12, 2013, 11:27:08 PM
These are really NEW for me! Thanks  for posting!

RealAnastasia
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tatiana Z on February 13, 2013, 04:58:42 AM
(http://s017.radikal.ru/i408/1302/a8/be6d1a17ddb1t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i408/1302/a8/be6d1a17ddb1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on February 13, 2013, 07:52:04 AM
WOW.

Where was this taken? And where did you find it?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on February 13, 2013, 08:41:41 AM
WOW.

Where was this taken? And where did you find it?

I second that! After all of these years how is it possible that we keep finding photos that hardcore Romanov enthusiasts haven't seen?

Judging from the length of her hair it's early-1913 I gather?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Antonina on February 13, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
Thank you! It is marvelous.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tatiana Z on February 13, 2013, 09:45:46 AM
WOW.

Where was this taken? And where did you find it?

This photos were scanned by " one person "  from albums that are in Moscow State archive.
There are many unknown albums in ihis archive , but they are not allowed to scan  :(
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on February 13, 2013, 09:57:43 AM
WOW.

Where was this taken? And where did you find it?

This photos were scanned by " one person "  from albums that are in Moscow State archive.
There are many unknown albums in ihis archive , but they are not allowed to scan  :(

Well I sure hope that changes sometime soon! And while they're at it maybe they can share with us all of the color photos of the IF they must have stashed away somewhere :-)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on February 13, 2013, 10:36:37 AM
That photo in reply 41: most striking, to say the least. And to think Tatiana was only 15.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Hikari on February 13, 2013, 11:29:01 AM
Thank you very much Tatiana Z for sharing those picture!
I found them very emotional. Tatiana's eyes are so sad. It must have been so hard for her to cut her hair short :(
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on February 13, 2013, 05:19:05 PM
Squee!

Short hair really suited Tatiana.

If they ever released the color photos (if they have them) I would probably die.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on February 13, 2013, 05:46:17 PM
Yeah, I really hope they release those coloured photos if they are found!

And WOW. That is a new picture, thank you for posting. I say 1913 too.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on February 14, 2013, 01:59:28 AM
I'm thinking  Peterhof or Lavardia

They look right into one's soul
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: matushka on February 14, 2013, 04:10:47 AM
I usually never write to say "wonderful picture" but this time I really can't help!! Thank you TatianaZ!!!
It's seems that Tatiana has her hair freshly cut ans looks a bit sick. Perhaps some day at the end of march in Tsarskoe? Or this room does not match with any AP's rooms?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on February 14, 2013, 08:40:54 AM
It's seems that Tatiana has her hair freshly cut ans looks a bit sick. Perhaps some day at the end of march in Tsarskoe? Or this room does not match with any AP's rooms?

I believe it's Nicholas & Alexandra's bedroom in Livadia:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/th_NampAbedroom_zps8c803dc8.jpg) (http://s7.beta.photobucket.com/user/sarahelizabethii/media/Romanov/Crimea/NampAbedroom_zps8c803dc8.jpg.html)

Olga is sitting on the sofa at the end of the beds.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on February 14, 2013, 09:03:35 AM
I believe it's Nicholas & Alexandra's bedroom in Livadia:
....Olga is sitting on the sofa at the end of the beds.
Excellent catch...TN is sitting on the sofa arm  and the photographer is sitting in the little char imo
The  real beds I noticed right away lol
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on February 14, 2013, 10:15:02 AM
I believe it's Nicholas & Alexandra's bedroom in Livadia:

I too was wondering where it was taken.   Obviously not the girls' bedrooms - no camp bed - but the decor of the room certainly wasn't the Imperial bedroom in AP.  Thanks for the info Sarushka.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on February 14, 2013, 05:05:01 PM
I agree with Sarushka. If you notice, new phtoos from Anastasia's album come from period of late early 1913 -- summer of 1913 (when the IF visited Livadia) up to spring of 1914.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on February 14, 2013, 09:59:19 PM
No question the imperial bedroom at Livadia.....Sarushka's photo is a match imo
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 15, 2013, 11:36:42 AM
So we can still turn up pictures we haven't seen before.  That is a good one of Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: matushka on February 15, 2013, 02:23:39 PM
Spasibo Sarushka for your good location of that picture! Excellent! Those days are great for OTMA's "fans" (though I don't like this word) thanks to TatianaZ!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: xwhiterussia on February 15, 2013, 06:35:46 PM
(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q745/TheRomanovs/OTMA/16edcc93-24ba-407a-aebe-bd9f1d58ce90_zps67e5cb10.jpg)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on February 16, 2013, 06:28:32 AM
It's a shame that one is not in high quality, because it is a nice photo of the girls! Thank you for posting.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on February 25, 2013, 09:17:19 PM
#142 the picture of NAT with the MG-08 German Machine gun was probably taken in early August 1914. I understand the Russian 1st Army captured it on one of the opening days of the war and the army commander General Paul Von Rempkamf sent it to the Tsar. This was most likely the first German Machine gun captured by the Russian army in WW I. I believe there are other pictures of Nicholas and Alexei looking at it.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on April 02, 2013, 11:35:43 AM
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n556/sanochka1/OTHandwashing.jpg)

I love this picture of Tatiana caught in such a pedestrian, mundane, and personal act as washing her hands.  I haven't seen this picture before.  If it's been posted, then please forgive me.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Neeosine on April 02, 2013, 04:38:24 PM
It has been uploaded here quite a bit, but I cannot say that it isn't a beautiful photo.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 02, 2013, 05:06:50 PM
Any photo of Tatiana is beautiful.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on April 02, 2013, 06:33:57 PM
Certainly agree with that one, Tim.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 03, 2013, 10:10:39 AM
It is interesting when new photos turn up (by new I mean those not seen before).  I wonder how many are still sitting in some archives somewhere.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Macduff on April 03, 2013, 11:16:59 AM
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3931/tumblrmkoolpyrkq1roxmki.jpg)

Question about this one. I'm pretty sure the girl in the hat is Tatiana, but someone on Tumblr messaged me saying it's Olga. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: EmmyLee on April 03, 2013, 01:57:22 PM
Great photo! I say Olga.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on April 03, 2013, 02:02:34 PM
Great photo! I say Olga.

I agree...love the photo. While I'm always happy to see Anastasia present I would love a close up of just Olga holding the baby and perhaps the small child standing next to her.

Notice how I say 'Olga', which I'm about 90% certain of here.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Macduff on April 03, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
The eye just looks like Tatiana's to me.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on April 03, 2013, 03:07:27 PM
Looks like Olga to me.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 03, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
It's really hard to tell here.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on April 03, 2013, 03:32:42 PM
What a beautiful photo.  The face whispers Tatiana, but the easy, regal posture reminds me of that I've seen in other pictures of Olga holding children in her lap.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 03, 2013, 03:53:03 PM
I say Olga too
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on April 03, 2013, 04:40:51 PM
I see both TN and ON in that picture but edging it toward being Olga.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Neeosine on April 03, 2013, 04:45:39 PM
I am certain that it is Olga.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on April 03, 2013, 09:05:18 PM
It's strikingly similar to Olga's pose here:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Abroad/th_romania2_zps31b4be54.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/sarahelizabethii/media/Romanov/Abroad/romania2_zps31b4be54.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on April 03, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
It's strikingly similar to Olga's pose here:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Abroad/th_romania2_zps31b4be54.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/sarahelizabethii/media/Romanov/Abroad/romania2_zps31b4be54.jpg.html)

Great pull! I knew I remembered this pose from somewhere. She must naturally have that sort of motherly sense about her...leaning in and intimate. She looked this way even at an early age. That one picture of her admiring her new baby brother from 1904, and that precious look on her face.

I'm about 99% certain now the picture from above is of Olga.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on April 04, 2013, 07:41:10 AM
That's the pose I was thinking of aswell!

I looked at the photo again and the more I look at it, the more I see Olga.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: RealAnastasia on April 05, 2013, 12:50:25 AM
You'll said I'm pretty crazy  , but I see Maria in her face...Otherwise is Olga, not Tatiana.

RealAnastasia

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on April 05, 2013, 05:07:30 AM
Maria and Olga do look alot alike in some photos, maybe that's why you see Maria in her face too!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TheMauveRoom on April 05, 2013, 11:41:24 AM
It's definitely Olga!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on April 06, 2013, 09:58:13 AM
Olga and the Imp and as Sarushka showed, remarkably like the Romania pose . One could put this photo together with  the Romania photo and then photo of Olga holding Anna's niece, her name sake, and have footage of Olga sitting up! ...she's higher in each photo . New to me! Thanks!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on April 06, 2013, 10:50:13 AM
and then photo of Olga holding Anna's niece

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Olga/th_olgababygirl_zpse0cb6c18.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/sarahelizabethii/media/Romanov/Olga/olgababygirl_zpse0cb6c18.jpg.html)

(I know we're getting off topic -- couldn't resist completing the series. Back to Tatiana!)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on April 06, 2013, 05:06:20 PM
Yes, that pose reminds me of the photo that started this discussion!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 07, 2013, 12:20:18 PM
Well, we know the picture is of one of the BP at any rate.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Neeosine on April 18, 2013, 07:48:22 PM
http://imgur.com/a/a8eyM#0

Finished with Tatiana. Some may claim they do not work, but if you click on them they will.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Macduff on April 18, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
Wonderful as usual. I love the one of her sitting on the steps next to Xenia. The palace behind them looks like Ropsha, but it might also be Livadia. Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on April 19, 2013, 01:26:20 AM
I think it's a visit to Minnie's estate in Odessa...she and Nicky are in the background...
But other  will know for sure

I like this photo too . It's rare to see these two alone etc.

Just recently I saw the Imp is in this photo along with Olga

http://i.imgur.com/Mw5XEE9.jpg

looks like  they are getting help up the bank

thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on May 01, 2013, 05:52:30 PM
I  just love seeing these pictures.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on June 04, 2013, 08:07:23 PM
TN in costume

http://tinyurl.com/mdslotn

but wait, there's more!


http://annie-stayathomeartist.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on June 05, 2013, 07:10:57 AM
I just can't...OMG!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on June 05, 2013, 06:07:49 PM
Re: GD in photo in reply 438. First instinct was Tatiana. Later I came to see a lot of Olga there. Funny how there's little confusion of them when they're together,at any age; Viewed individually, it's easy to mistake them , and occasionally likewise with Marie.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on June 06, 2013, 02:03:56 AM
More nice pictures of my favourite GD...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on June 06, 2013, 06:29:02 AM
I saw those costume ones Tumblr last night! They're amazing.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Hikari on June 06, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
Oh my god blessOTMA you are my heroin! I always wanted to see the costume photo in a better quality!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: matushka on June 07, 2013, 01:16:57 PM
Incredibly beautiful!! I was astonished. The Tatiana's and Marie's are well know, the others new for me and alltogether, it is... extremly moving. Anastasia is particularly attractive. Thank you BlessOTMA! When were they taken? 1916?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on June 07, 2013, 01:21:56 PM
Yes, in 1916, in Big Pair's room. (Sources -- Sarushka and TatianaZ.)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on June 07, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
Which location though? Peterhof?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on June 07, 2013, 02:57:50 PM
Which location though? Peterhof?

The Alexander Palace.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on June 09, 2013, 09:24:01 PM
I saw those costume ones Tumblr last night! They're amazing.
lol that's why I have"  AP forum " on most of them   People forget where they started from otherwise lol
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on June 10, 2013, 05:08:41 AM
I saw those costume ones Tumblr last night! They're amazing.
lol that's why I have"  AP forum " on most of them   People forget where they started from otherwise lol

Good idea!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Neeosine on July 15, 2013, 08:23:57 PM
With Anna Vyrubova:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4641/rvsa.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/rvsa.jpg/)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on July 31, 2013, 01:32:28 PM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3770/9411024320_10cbb17ef8_o.jpg)

Nurse Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Antonina on July 31, 2013, 09:28:51 PM
Wow! Have you got a fuller version please? I'd like to see the man near her as usual)))
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on July 31, 2013, 10:37:25 PM
Yeah seriously great shot of her. Is it just me or does she look a little more "filled out" than normal? I mean that in a good way. She looks perfect here...not that she ever looks bad.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on July 31, 2013, 10:43:53 PM
Wow! Have you got a fuller version please? I'd like to see the man near her as usual)))

Sadly, this is the only version of this photo I've ever seen, but if I come across it in full, I promise to post it :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Justine on August 01, 2013, 08:46:06 AM
Looks like there's full version (http://www.imagebam.com/image/53e7c5268302597) in Beinecke Album 3(p. 44).
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 02, 2013, 12:38:34 AM
Goes to show how different a known  photo can look when it's bigger
and of  better quality...stunning really. Makes me want to see them all bigger!!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Justine on August 02, 2013, 02:15:09 AM
Well, if it's in one of Beinecke Albums you can at least download zoom image. But it's a shame we can't have every picture in good quality...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on August 06, 2013, 07:22:44 AM
That Nurse Tatiana photo is lovely.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 06, 2013, 07:54:48 PM
people say she looked cross alot. If, however ,  you enlarge her  photo, s she looks more like anxious ....the lot of a Governess!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on August 07, 2013, 07:46:35 AM
I wouldn't call it a 'cross' look. To me it strikes me as more of a serious/perhaps anxious look like blessOTMA said?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Lady Macduff on August 09, 2013, 09:59:22 PM
Is the one of her in her nursing uniform an "official" portrait- ie, one that was published in the papers? That could explain her expression.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on August 11, 2013, 12:19:00 PM
Looks like there's full version (http://www.imagebam.com/image/53e7c5268302597) in Beinecke Album 3(p. 44).
Is Anna Vyrubova on the photo as well? (I am trying to guess the year). She suffered terrible train accident in early 1915.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Justine on August 11, 2013, 02:40:16 PM
Anna Vyrubova is standing behind Empress Alexandra, so rather before the accident. 1914 imho.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on August 11, 2013, 07:15:40 PM
1914 imho.

I thought so. Autumn/winter of 1914.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 13, 2013, 03:32:19 AM
There is a vim and vigor to these photos that says 1914 too ...people were not as down hearted as yet . But Anna is an infallible sign
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 16, 2013, 12:18:07 AM
Nice size. click on the photo for the full size

http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/e/_/e_gerontidy/Tatiana-05.jpg   

I do believe they sported those two color shoes to make their large feet look smaller lol
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on August 16, 2013, 08:47:54 PM
Nice size. click on the photo for the full size

http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/e/_/e_gerontidy/Tatiana-05.jpg   

I do believe they sported those two color shoes to make their large feet look smaller lol
No, seriously, where and when this photo must have been taken? Should I guess at Livadia? Or at Finland in 1913/4?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 17, 2013, 07:38:00 AM
both sound correct to me ...even if the web site gave a date, how often are they wrong? She's in white and that seems to be her grown back hair. I would say your range  is spot on
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Maria on November 27, 2013, 08:59:09 PM
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5539/rpi4.jpg
Has anybody seen this? If yes, is there someone who has this in bigger size? Please post it, and thank you very much in advance!
I think this has been uploaded by TatianaZ in her albums but the internet here is unfriendly to radikal.ru website :'(
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tatiana Z on November 28, 2013, 02:06:14 AM
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5539/rpi4.jpg
Has anybody seen this? If yes, is there someone who has this in bigger size? Please post it, and thank you very much in advance!
I think this has been uploaded by TatianaZ in her albums but the internet here is unfriendly to radikal.ru website :'(


Yes , this is scan from archiv


(http://s017.radikal.ru/i438/1311/55/7920df504a0dt.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/fp/cac87a8696b04c98944a476251c25c45)

http://s017.radikal.ru/i438/1311/55/7920df504a0d.jpg
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on November 28, 2013, 08:02:55 AM
Quote
http://s017.radikal.ru/i438/1311/55/7920df504a0d.jpg

Tatiana, do you have information on place and date of the last photo? Was it taken in 1912?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Tatiana Z on November 28, 2013, 03:49:35 PM
Quote
http://s017.radikal.ru/i438/1311/55/7920df504a0d.jpg

Tatiana, do you have information on place and date of the last photo? Was it taken in 1912?

Tatiana looks like in 1913 year.
The place I don't know.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on November 28, 2013, 09:06:12 PM
Looks like her wig, so I'm guessing it's 1913.

At least that's what I put it as when I saved it.

Looks to me to be from the same day as this:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u6msnYPX6OI/UpaGWOnJWAI/AAAAAAAACLw/jinvHhuRHgw/w614-h552-no/1913+OTMA.jpg)

I have that marked as May of 1913.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on November 29, 2013, 12:06:32 AM
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5482/11112296976_a29c40e5e0_o.jpg)

Not new, but excellent size and clarity.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on November 29, 2013, 02:37:01 AM
I cannot believe the detail in these photos !!! Thank you so much Dru!!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on November 29, 2013, 03:21:21 AM
Yes Dru, thank you! Never saw it quite that big! It inspires me to color!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Maria on November 30, 2013, 04:12:47 AM
So many thanks TatianaZ!!  (like always) Me thinks too that it's from 1913, place uncertain but I guess somewhere in Livadia?
And also Dru!!! Wahh, I adore the clarity of that, it's incredible!! Thank you, thank you so much for that, Olga's and Maria's, too!!
Hoping you, Kassy, are coloring them now!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on November 30, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
I actually have one of Olga in her Hussar uniform that I was working on ages ago, might have to open it up again tonight and see if I can finish it. ;-)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on November 30, 2013, 06:20:06 PM
Looks like her wig, so I'm guessing it's 1913.
I have that marked as May of 1913.
I think you are right - thank you!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on December 03, 2013, 11:03:53 AM
I don´t recall seeing this one

(http://andcvet.narod.ru/N2/16/max/19.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on December 03, 2013, 06:25:44 PM
That's on the Russian Federal Archives site, but it's labeled as being Olga there haha But looking at this photo:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oUnYlSXzO74/Up52AyspdzI/AAAAAAAADuQ/If2s2pKJIKo/w378-h552-no/1898-1899+ON+Standart.jpg)

That appears to be from the same day in my opinion, judging by the hats and the outfits and the head of the girl in the photo you posted is too small to be Olga's, methinks. Looks like a caption mistake.

Any idea on the year? the RFA has it listed as being 1899-1900 but I don't know if that's the case or not.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on December 03, 2013, 06:34:14 PM
Looks like she's knitting here. Too cute!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lMkhMgvX32E/Up54Tdd74pI/AAAAAAAADus/wvehz4NK-Nc/w482-h509-no/1899-1900+TN+Standart+2.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Ae33kvClSvM/Up54U8OKlMI/AAAAAAAADu0/E-6lfroNuGY/w680-h468-no/1899-1900+TN+Standart+3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ortipo on February 01, 2014, 05:16:03 PM
i'm really liking this one - sorry if repost
(http://i61.tinypic.com/5be338.jpg)
http://oi61.tinypic.com/5be338.jpg
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on February 01, 2014, 10:19:32 PM
She looks so regal. Olga was always the proper Grand Duchess in her formal photos, but Tatiana had such an air of elegance about her. It was almost otherwordly.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on February 01, 2014, 11:16:27 PM
She looks so regal. Olga was always the proper Grand Duchess in her formal photos, but Tatiana had such an air of elegance about her. It was almost otherwordly.

Couldn't agree more. Incredible and rare beauty she was!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 04, 2014, 10:58:53 AM
She had such great dedication to whatever task was at hand, it's awe inspiring ...no wonder she was nicknamed The Governess"...and look at her determination to knit at 2 or so! Amazing
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on March 05, 2014, 05:15:38 PM
She had such great dedication to whatever task was at hand, it's awe inspiring ...no wonder she was nicknamed The Governess"...and look at her determination to knit at 2 or so! Amazing

She was indeed a dedicated and industrious  little munchkin. Only lacking a little tongue escaping the little mouth. And ever adorable.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on April 05, 2014, 12:28:34 PM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2843/13647642355_28fd648af5_o.jpg)

I've never seen this one so large and clear before...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 05, 2014, 01:12:09 PM
Me neither! What a stunning find! It was probably the wig, but Tatiana always looked much more mature than her actual age in all the 1913 photographs.

Also - for the first time I can see her necklace well. Interesting piece!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on April 05, 2014, 03:14:49 PM
Thank you, Dru! It's both interesting and frustrating to think about why a few of the famous formal photos are online in massive sizes but others like Tatiana's 1913 photos, despite the relative frequency with which they show up on royal sites, I'd never before seen in the kind of good quality that would make the details clear.

Also - for the first time I can see her necklace well. Interesting piece!

The necklace didn't stand out in smaller photos, but here it looks fascinatingly unusual.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 24, 2014, 02:34:28 PM
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/7f3f760546700a96e389b25d560ee230/tumblr_n4jmaio9Qo1roxmkio1_1280.jpg)

This one I have only seen cropped and small

(http://37.media.tumblr.com/7b561dcd0265400a1f154c8335766094/tumblr_n4jqtm7CNx1tw2zo1o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on April 24, 2014, 03:17:22 PM
I'm so glad that I finally found a big version of this one.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a6b93870ecdef2f2589eb07147b96f67/tumblr_n4jrwzG7Gx1tw2zo1o1_1280.jpg)

It's so interesting how photos can show up online unexpectedly. I checked my cropped versions of the beach and Standart photos and both files were from 2011. Almost three years later I got to see the full photos for the first time.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on April 25, 2014, 01:36:23 AM
I hadn't seen this photo before:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d3ea6eb1b8021b63dabb11ab9823df8f/tumblr_n4kpuf7MAk1tw2zo1o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on April 25, 2014, 02:45:24 PM
Me either. Did it show up on Beinecke?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on April 27, 2014, 11:23:16 AM
Me either. Did it show up on Beinecke?

No, I saw it on a Russian social network.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on April 29, 2014, 01:28:01 AM
Thank you Dru and Ally...stunning finds !
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on May 02, 2014, 01:24:49 AM
Familiar but in good quality:

(http://37.media.tumblr.com/7365a9f19b322e56ad735d1b91265667/tumblr_n4qt09gCKj1tw2zo1o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on May 05, 2014, 10:34:11 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/4cebbcc258677121e26c6a977a75c500/tumblr_n53xr4Y7G31rh07xwo3_1280.png)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on May 05, 2014, 11:56:41 AM
My favourite of these wonderful new photos. They're beautifully posed. I've never seen the dresses before; it's a reminder of how much is still unseen despite the thousands of photos online.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on May 05, 2014, 12:27:07 PM
Yes, those dresses are just lovely! I don´t think I´ve seen them in any other picture either.
One more of Tatiana.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/4331ea9bfc9f3bac3ea4f9ffa3c748ba/tumblr_n53zcp6A4A1rh07xwo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on May 05, 2014, 04:52:50 PM
Never seen these last two photos before.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on May 06, 2014, 06:57:31 AM
New to me and gorgeous! Thank you!!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on May 07, 2014, 04:20:43 PM
I like the one of her in the doorway.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on July 06, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2901/14588305822_b7c63d3855_o.jpg)

Tatiana sketching, from vk.com/naotmaa
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 19, 2014, 10:57:30 PM
I've never seen this one before. Tatiana and Alexei featuring a ghost Alexandra from a double exposure

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgrbdjoWPS1qa2zhno1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on July 20, 2014, 09:41:29 AM
I have seen it, but do you believe me, I have NEVER noticed the Empress.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 20, 2014, 01:16:49 PM
It's pretty creepy considering its one of the photos where Alexandra looks completely worn out and exhausted. It must have been taken shortly after one of Alexei's illnesses or one of her own.

This ones pretty cute
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/b6792a7edd5102930476df8f73258444/tumblr_n4gam51mZf1s1cpvio1_500.jpg)

The IF seem to have many cats but I only know the names of their dogs

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on July 20, 2014, 01:27:39 PM
Aleksei had many cats as well. One was named Zubrovka.  I can't tell for sure, but I think that Olga's cat's name is known.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on July 20, 2014, 03:43:20 PM
I can't tell for sure, but I think that Olga's cat's name is known.

There was a cat named Vaska, too. If memory serves, Vaska was Olga's cat.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on July 20, 2014, 05:21:41 PM
I wonder if Tatiana had a cat?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on July 20, 2014, 05:39:15 PM

There was a cat named Vaska, too. If memory serves, Vaska was Olga's cat.

Bingo, that is the one. Yes, she was Olga's cat.
I wonder if Tatiana had a cat?

I am not an OTMA expert, but I believe that she did. Maybe the cat Tatiana was caressing in the photo above posted was her. How about Maria, did she have a pet?

IMO, Nicholas' children loved the pets. Which reminds me of a saying - " We can judge a man's nature by the way he treats the animals. "
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on July 20, 2014, 06:53:09 PM
nena, I recall hearing somewhere that Maria had a Siamese cat, but no one seems to know its name.  There is a photo of Alexei with Joy and a Siamese; perhaps it was Maria's pet?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on July 22, 2014, 12:08:16 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5558/14532052097_b4f1776a32_o.jpg)

Tatiana.

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on July 22, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3878/14738362003_2cf476816b_o.jpg)

Tatiana.  Both photos I just posted are from vk.com/house_of_romanov
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on July 22, 2014, 03:48:31 PM
I trust that is N. P. Sablin in that  last photo? At any rate, Tatiana doesn't look pleased or relaxed at that instant. But hey, a girl (or guy) can't be'on' all the time. And may that be just a bit of unwanted hand-touching there?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 23, 2014, 12:38:30 AM
Tatiana, Nicholas and Alexei with a machine gun captured from the Germans. 1915
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2aqfqopqO1rrnhz4o1_500.jpg)
themauveroom.com
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on July 23, 2014, 04:47:10 AM
It was taken in august of 1914, not in 1915.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: lunasolem on July 31, 2014, 10:53:40 AM
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/4bf9c29144d1c598304094286b0ebc7e/tumblr_mqnvjgtndJ1qlpcnyo1_1280.png)
Nicholas II and Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: lunasolem on August 04, 2014, 12:05:25 PM
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/f17c103ecb96d3ef331dee82b6ea97bf/tumblr_n9qjkutHoC1qiu1coo2_1280.jpg)

A closeup of Tatiana playing tennis.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on August 05, 2014, 05:25:59 PM
A nice picture of my favourite GD.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: lunasolem on August 06, 2014, 11:01:44 AM
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/b6e76a6b814166cd41e2cce3840870f2/tumblr_n6yv7tp23P1qlpcnyo2_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 23, 2014, 05:27:17 AM
Grand Duchess Tatiana Nikolaevna of Russia holds the hand of her young cousin Grand Duke Georg Donatus of hesse as they step off a carnival ride; C. 1912.

(http://37.media.tumblr.com/a026ddeb715f95e3e7607ae4b822b5c3/tumblr_naod60S7UX1tc6ouio1_500.jpg)

from this blog http://hrhawesome.tumblr.com/

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on September 01, 2014, 09:54:17 AM
Grand Duhcess Tatiana Nichoalievna, AP gardens, spring of 1917:

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_Tatiana_1917_zps3cf9515d.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/Tatiana_1917_zps3cf9515d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria Sisi on September 01, 2014, 08:29:04 PM
Alexandra and baby Tatiana.
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/38/a3/8d/38a38d94f600f344648c36335b70783f.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wakas on September 05, 2014, 02:22:07 PM
(http://cs319025.vk.me/v319025957/8225/l6vF_yc16vQ.jpg)
from http://vk.com/the_house_of_romanov
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on September 05, 2014, 04:24:50 PM
It is great, never seen it in such great quality. It is cropped from the famous one of the IF visiting the new opened hospital at Crimea in May of 1916. Thank you, Wakas!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wakas on September 05, 2014, 04:42:15 PM
You're welcome, nena:-)
I agree, it's a great photo of Tatiana. She looks so beautiful here.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on September 20, 2014, 09:03:21 AM
That is a beautiful picture of Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on October 03, 2014, 06:51:57 AM
This one is new to me

(http://www.vladmuseum.ru/upload/medialibrary/c1e/c1e5edad73e2a844e8f2bd850c111006.JPG)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on October 03, 2014, 07:07:00 AM
And this one as well

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/ef4912b9f347bfa0709555721685ac85/tumblr_ncvaydSrBp1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wakas on October 03, 2014, 11:06:16 AM
What a lovely picture of Tatiana, Ally! Thanks a lot for posting it.

(http://cs618416.vk.me/v618416027/15b0e/L4Entb4oY7o.jpg)

Looks like Tatiana on this picture, but I'm not 100% sure. What do you think?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Justine on October 03, 2014, 11:11:09 AM
In my opinion it is Tatiana in 1915.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on October 03, 2014, 11:35:02 AM
It's Tatiana, all right. That structure behind her and the background in general suggest the Crimea. Was Tatiana there in 1915?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Justine on October 03, 2014, 11:49:29 AM
I don't really know, I guessed the year by hairstyle and her dress :P It might as well be 1916.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wakas on October 03, 2014, 05:32:17 PM
And this one? Taken in the Crimea too?
(http://cs618416.vk.me/v618416027/15b92/8nTF4AImZq0.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on October 03, 2014, 09:55:21 PM
Great shot! Reminds of the photo taken at Tsarskoe Selo of one of the lady's-in-waiting that always seems to get mistaken for Anastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on October 04, 2014, 02:01:32 AM
And this one? Taken in the Crimea too?

Stunning!

IIRC they didn't go to the Crimea again until the 1916 visit, they had their usual stay in 1914 and then the more official trip in 1916. The hat and outfit look like the 1915 photo of Maria on the balcony.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on October 05, 2014, 05:22:55 PM
I like it.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wakas on October 05, 2014, 05:37:12 PM
Quote
Stunning!
Totally agree with you. She's so beautiful here.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on October 06, 2014, 11:09:16 AM
I believe that the last one of Tatiana was taken at Stavka in 1916. She wears the same outfit as in group OTMAAA photo sitting on the bench. I hope you know what photo I am referring at. It is a well known one. Another label I have seen is Ts. Selo, 1915 or 1916.

I also believe that the previous Tatiana's photo was taken sometime  in 1916.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wakas on October 06, 2014, 05:06:44 PM
Thank you, nena. That's very helpful:)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on December 02, 2014, 03:11:06 PM
Tatiana and her father in Germany

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/8bfb9fe783fc03452bad5495d224a57d/tumblr_nfyzr32YjP1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: matushka on December 04, 2014, 05:58:01 AM
As for the first picture on this page, I would label it as Tatiana in the South, in 1916, during their official war trip. Not sure though. Any idea about the officer's identity?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria Sisi on December 05, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
That picture with Tatiana in Germany is a great candid.

If I didn't know that was Nicholas, and Tatiana with him, I would have thought it was King George!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on December 05, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
As for the first picture on this page, I would label it as Tatiana in the South, in 1916, during their official war trip.
I agree, since the background seems to be somewhat like the port. Like the one at Sevastopole's, for example.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on December 20, 2014, 08:19:01 AM
(http://cs625324.vk.me/v625324027/1277e/0Pwa_vGRYgs.jpg)

From VK naotmaa group
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on December 28, 2014, 02:10:39 PM
This one is new to me
http://www.vladmuseum.ru/upload/medialibrary/c1e/c1e5edad73e2a844e8f2bd850c111006.JPG

Better quality

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/221/665/cc875714d2_99971227_o2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on December 28, 2014, 03:24:20 PM
Now I *think* this is Tatiana holding Ortipo, but I could be wrong...

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/236/467/ed42417f47_99971948_o2.jpg)

Source https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/eavm/albums/
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on December 28, 2014, 03:39:40 PM
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/328/073/e6f340bc73_99972094_o2.jpg)

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/809/806/964f748c6c_99972103_o2.jpg)

Source https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/eavm/albums/
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ortino on December 29, 2014, 03:04:44 PM
Now I *think* this is Tatiana holding Ortipo, but I could be wrong...

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/236/467/ed42417f47_99971948_o2.jpg)

Source https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/eavm/albums/

I would agree that it is probably Tatiana. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Olga's hair is usually parted straight down the middle.....

Also, thank you for the photo--this is the first decent photo I've seen of this side of Olga and Tatiana's bedroom....
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on December 30, 2014, 07:57:10 AM
You are right about Olga´s hair parting! I am now quite convinced the girl in the picture is indeed Tatiana.

...

Olga and Tatiana with their grandmother

(http://36.media.tumblr.com/9a09978ef69b917c5d3474df0b5b6662/tumblr_nheeosFnKn1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on December 30, 2014, 02:14:10 PM
Olga and Tatiana with their grandmother

January 1916. Really happy to see a big version of this one!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on December 31, 2014, 11:02:58 AM
Thanks for sharing these pictures with us, Ally.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on January 22, 2015, 07:50:30 PM
Just pay attention on the size difference between Tatiana and her brother! One would say that it is a soldier, not the Heir. Although it is possible that Alexei had stood a bit higher, on the bushes.

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_TaStavka_zpsgeishvrd.png) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/TaStavka_zpsgeishvrd.png.html)
(in 1916, Gardens at Stavka's building in Mogilev. My opinion. I can tell by the bench in the background and by their outfits)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on January 22, 2015, 08:04:30 PM
If you enlarge the photo you will see that Tatiana is half-sitting on the fence which would also account for the difference in height.  It's hard to see that in the small version.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 01, 2015, 06:52:08 AM
Quote
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/236/467/ed42417f47_99971948_o2.jpg)

Is that a cat that Tatiana is holding?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wakas on February 01, 2015, 09:40:09 AM
I'm not sure but I don't think it's a cat she's holding. It looks more like a dog to me, so I'll say it's probably Ortipo.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on February 01, 2015, 02:18:33 PM
A little small for Ortipo. Possibly one of Ortipo's puppies? I don't remember the date offhand, but Ortipo had a litter sometime in 1915 or 1916, which would be consistent with Tatiana's clothing and hairstyle.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on February 01, 2015, 11:35:45 PM
A few thoughts about this, Sarushka. I think it's Ortipo. It certainly looks like her. Her face/muzzle certainly looks like Ortipo's.  It's not a long time in a female dog's life between immaturity and ability to breed. And Ortipo never was too big. Plus, what other  French bulldog would Tatiana have in her lap in those years? One of her puppies perhaps, but the indications add up to Ortipo.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 02, 2015, 08:06:54 AM
Dnepr 1916

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/b566b0417be7c8052efbbe0c7ee0d247/tumblr_nj58j8fJhR1s8tajho1_1280.jpg)

ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 13 фото 203
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 02, 2015, 11:27:21 AM
Never seen this picture before.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria Sisi on February 02, 2015, 05:58:50 PM
I've always thought Tatiana favored her father's side of the family but boy does her expression look a lot like Alexandra in that picture
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on February 03, 2015, 05:40:24 AM
It was Olga who favored her father's family side, while Tatiana was all like Alexandra.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 03, 2015, 06:15:40 AM
Quote
while Tatiana was all like Alexandra

Perhaps that is why they were so close.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 03, 2015, 12:29:14 PM
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/4bcaec37bf9f10bb20ea7150e47e0807/tumblr_nj7i82mka51s8tajho2_1280.jpg)

ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 17 фото 277

Courtesy of naaotma.tumblr.com
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 03, 2015, 12:30:36 PM
It was Olga who favored her father's family side, while Tatiana was all like Alexandra.

Olga did share some of her mother´s facial features, but overal she definitely favoured Nicholas. Tatiana was more like Alix, but even more like her aunt Ella - and also Empress Maria Alexandrovna, at least to my eyes.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: mitia on February 03, 2015, 01:08:42 PM
Sorry to be late in discovering the lovely photo of Tatiana holding / cuddling a puppy : it is a brindle French Bulldog puppy, 99% sure. French Bulldogs puppies are very tiny when they are born, they can go their new home at the age of 8 weeks. They are teenagers between 6 months and about 1 year old, and change a lot. Frenchies are generally at their best around 3 years old, though boys generally mature physically quicker than girls.
Tatiana received Ortipo as a present from Dimitri Malama in October 1914 and she must have been a puppy of this size I guess. As to Ortipo's own puppies who were born about one year later, they were crossed breed, no one knew who the father was and the poor things were said said to be "ugly".
On another note, one has to know that the breed changed a lot between its origins around the 1880 and nowadays. To day 's Frenchies are larger, far too large in France in my opinion. I have had French Bulldogs for years and like them small and cobby.
This should be in the Tatiana and Ortipo thread, I guess. However I felt that this infos would be of interest for some members.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 05, 2015, 01:24:49 PM
This one has been posted before but here we have it in beautiful size and quality!

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/be35c6da72a17c261ff3fbee13812918/tumblr_njaomzqh4N1s8tajho1_1280.jpg)

ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 17 фото 276
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 05, 2015, 06:06:13 PM
I like the picture.  It captures her essence well.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 09, 2015, 12:57:19 PM
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/95f5fdc9146c98fb6e2dc040891c8209/tumblr_njiivkRbPT1s8tajho2_1280.jpg)

ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 20 об. фото 366
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 09, 2015, 01:52:39 PM
Tatiana after her recovery from typhoid, 1913

(https://36.media.tumblr.com/a5f5a9c3b309165e86bf1226a27101f9/tumblr_njis7jpANu1s8tajho2_1280.jpg)

ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 24 фото 339
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on February 09, 2015, 04:31:13 PM
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/95f5fdc9146c98fb6e2dc040891c8209/tumblr_njiivkRbPT1s8tajho2_1280.jpg)

ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 20 об. фото 366

Who are the two men in the background?  The tsar and the grand duchesses look uncomfortable, and I'm assuming the two are guards.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 10, 2015, 07:09:52 AM
This looks like it was taken during their captivity at Tsarskoe Selo in 1917.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 10, 2015, 11:38:10 AM
No, it was during the visit to Mogilev in 1916.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 10, 2015, 06:00:47 PM
Well, I was close.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 11, 2015, 04:51:17 AM
You were :-)

---

June 1908 - Tatiana, Alexei and Queen Alexandra on Standart (better open in a new tab for full size)

(http://cdn.royalcollection.org.uk/cdn/farfuture/zE4aWW6SCP4lRKDx_38dPbt9dy0I78V7kpGnW_WTgyg/mtime:1423379621/sites/royalcollection.org.uk/files/collection-online/2/1/444560-1390903121.jpg)

Courtesy of Royal Nationa Trust
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 11, 2015, 06:51:12 AM
Keep the pictures coming, Ally.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 11, 2015, 03:41:28 PM
Trying to, Tim! ;-)

With Alexei and Amama

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/490/286/aa70f3627a_100323904_o2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 12, 2015, 11:26:16 AM
Never seen this one before.

Thanks, Ally.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ortino on February 12, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
Trying to, Tim! ;-)

With Alexei and Amama

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/490/286/aa70f3627a_100323904_o2.jpg)


The grand duchess in this photo looks too small to be Tatiana--I'd say it's Marie.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 12, 2015, 01:07:54 PM
The original caption on the RCT website was "Marie", but I disagree. One look in the face and I am 100% positive this is Tatiana. (furthermore RCT often gets the descriptions wrong - they even managed to identify Marie Fyodorovna and Queen Alexandra as Xenia and Victoria!). I don´t think she is too small either. First of all she is leaning back, second of all here is a comparisn photo from the same day:

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/534/840/c3559f01ba_100303357_o2.jpg)

Alexei and Tatiana have the same height difference in both pictures.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Holly on February 12, 2015, 03:08:38 PM
That is definitely Tatiana. There was a similar picture from this day with Maria and Anastasia.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ortino on February 12, 2015, 10:22:34 PM
The original caption on the RCT website was "Marie", but I disagree. One look in the face and I am 100% positive this is Tatiana. (furthermore RCT often gets the descriptions wrong - they even managed to identify Marie Fyodorovna and Queen Alexandra as Xenia and Victoria!). I don´t think she is too small either. First of all she is leaning back, second of all here is a comparisn photo from the same day:

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/534/840/c3559f01ba_100303357_o2.jpg)

Alexei and Tatiana have the same height difference in both pictures.


I rarely rely on such captions since they're almost always wrong. I was going simply on appearances.

As for the height difference in the two photos, they're actually not the same. In the photo in question, Alexei is bending forward slightly, making him appear shorter. In the other, he is standing straight. If he *were* standing straight in the first one, he would come up too high up on her chest for it to be Tatiana. Also, you can see that Alexei's hands reach the hem of the girl's dress. The same is true with Alexei and Marie in the photo below. Tatiana's hem, by comparison, is considerably lower. In my opinion, it is Marie.

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/b66bf4ba9788c442d85462ad1eb9c595/tumblr_nc7dstkIcd1skf7s3o1_1280.jpg)

Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 13, 2015, 11:49:47 AM
But the girl too is bended in the first picture, not just Alexei.

Well, I´m afraid we will have to disagree on this one. The face is clearly Tatiana to me.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Duchess Hydrangea on February 13, 2015, 12:41:04 PM
Trying to, Tim! ;-)

With Alexei and Amama

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/490/286/aa70f3627a_100323904_o2.jpg)


The grand duchess in this photo looks too small to be Tatiana--I'd say it's Marie.

It looks like someone is standing between the Grand Duchess and the woman next to her. I think i see a feather and part of a sleeve. Anastasia perhaps?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on February 13, 2015, 03:57:48 PM
Could Aleksei be standing on something? It looks to me like his legs would be disproportionately long if they actually reached the deck.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 13, 2015, 06:00:10 PM
It's hard to tell.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 14, 2015, 01:32:30 AM
Evpatoria, May 1916

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/6633fb7aa1a1600af74df380a66f9268/tumblr_njoidq79PP1s8tajho2_1280.jpg)

ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 8 фото 110
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 14, 2015, 10:13:56 AM
Evpatoria again

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/fc70e4066eec586a9f6c8a75785b85fd/tumblr_njrrg8O9O01s8tajho2_1280.jpg)

ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 8 фото 106
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on February 14, 2015, 02:54:24 PM
But the girl too is bended in the first picture, not just Alexei.

Well, I´m afraid we will have to disagree on this one. The face is clearly Tatiana to me.

I agree.  The sharp facial features, as well as the way she's holding her hand, makes me lean toward Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 15, 2015, 01:32:35 AM
I agree.  It's Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 21, 2015, 02:03:18 PM
(http://cs625827.vk.me/v625827027/29538/JLhzEJTucew.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 22, 2015, 11:17:01 AM
Out having a ride on her bike.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 26, 2015, 01:02:41 PM
Nice, full version of a well-known image: Tatiana Nikolaevna during an art lesson at Livadia palace, and for the first time we can also see Olga behind her!

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/8c7c75fd1bfee17ca445df6b778134a2/tumblr_nke7emNNtx1rlb5pyo1_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on February 26, 2015, 04:51:43 PM
I find it difficult to tear my eyes away from this photo.  Thank you so much, Ally, for posting it.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 27, 2015, 01:49:50 PM
Standart, 1913. Anyone can identify the lady?

(http://36.media.tumblr.com/15669d9bc9d803824340fa74318982f3/tumblr_nkg43kpZoZ1s8tajho1_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Bryndis on February 27, 2015, 02:55:20 PM
I would guess Anastasia Hendrikova
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wakas on February 27, 2015, 04:04:51 PM
That's what I would say too.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on February 28, 2015, 03:36:02 AM
There are also several other 1913 holiday photos of Hendrikova spending time with the girls.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 28, 2015, 11:21:14 AM
Another Anastasia.

All these people having the same names as OTMA.  How did they ever keep track!?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on February 28, 2015, 01:03:13 PM
Another Anastasia.

All these people having the same names as OTMA.  How did they ever keep track!?

Quite easily, I would think. For one thing, there's the use of the patronymic. So Anastasia Nikolaievna would not be confused with an Anastasia Sergeievna, for example.

Also, the widespread Russian usage of nicknames would differentiate between two , or more people with the same name. I doubt Anastasia Hendrikova would be called Schvibzik, to stay with the same examples.

Also in any society or even small social grouping there are often several people with the same first names and there's rarely confusion. A typical American classroom might well have more than one Megan or Alex or Brian and they all know which is which. It's likely there were other Tims in your social circle at some time and I'm sure people knew which was you and who wasn't.

(my best friend is a Rodney and people have come up with a name which differentiates us. Not telling though).
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 28, 2015, 01:44:05 PM
This one has been seen before, but not in this quality!

Livadia 1911

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/5be85f44dc68f307998aa2b0a09935b7/tumblr_nkhypc7qzA1s8tajho2_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wakas on February 28, 2015, 05:48:45 PM
Tatiana looks absolutely gorgeous here.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on February 28, 2015, 06:06:30 PM
She sure does.  It's a beautiful picture.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 02, 2015, 10:52:58 AM
Another grea rare from Ilya Grigoriev!

(https://36.media.tumblr.com/6d0ff8ade02143078ac506ea074f8492/tumblr_nkl4qjEBso1s8tajho2_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Bryndis on March 02, 2015, 12:40:18 PM
Oh I hope there are more of those 'painting at Livadia' photos.
I've seen 4 photos of Anastasia from the same day.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on March 02, 2015, 05:49:53 PM
Does anyone else think Tatiana looks a lot like her great-grandmother, Empress Maria Alexandrovna, in that last photo?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on March 03, 2015, 11:16:58 AM
Yeah, she does, a little bit.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 03, 2015, 11:27:09 AM
Does anyone else think Tatiana looks a lot like her great-grandmother, Empress Maria Alexandrovna, in that last photo?

I´ve always been saying that Tatiana resembled Maria Alexandrovna - and her aunt Ella too :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on March 05, 2015, 12:34:01 PM
I wondered what the pole at right was in the earlier pic of Tatiana and Olga busy at art lessons.  This last pictures makes clear what it is, and also shows the terrace door slightly ajar.  What wonderful pictures, both of them.  Thank you for posting!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 11, 2015, 09:34:38 AM
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/99ae9619ba42d4de7d71d063ff64ed1e/tumblr_nl1j591uru1upjnawo2_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on March 11, 2015, 11:54:23 AM
How beautiful!  I love to see photos of Tatiana smiling like that!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: wakas on March 11, 2015, 03:10:09 PM
How beautiful!  I love to see photos of Tatiana smiling like that!

Me too. What a lovely smile she has, indeed. Love it. Great new photo !
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on March 11, 2015, 03:39:19 PM
There was a shot of that photo from a documentary that only showed Tatiana's head and shoulders. It's so fascinating to see the full photo! Such a nice smile and relaxed pose.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 11, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
This one I have seen before, but in a very bad quality

Mogilev, 1916

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/9cf247a9dff1d62839041f67039e8e01/tumblr_nl2fw2eTbM1upjnawo1_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on March 11, 2015, 05:17:24 PM
Quote
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/99ae9619ba42d4de7d71d063ff64ed1e/tumblr_nl1j591uru1upjnawo2_1280.jpg)

I agree.  It's nice to see her smiling.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on March 11, 2015, 05:24:51 PM
This has got to be the least regal image of Tatiana I think I've ever seen.  This just might be one of my favorites.  Thank you for posting!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 12, 2015, 12:16:49 PM
This is an incredible image!

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/ca5eac807c5792fc9186a1194c9f317d/tumblr_nl3hl0BZRf1upjnawo1_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 13, 2015, 04:45:19 AM
Sevastopol, 1916

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/105ab742e0a59fca39cad46f5b952a5f/tumblr_nl59n1Aoe61upjnawo1_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 14, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
Peterhof, 1912

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/df5467710e3df4d25feae0b92c849392/tumblr_nl7xvaZVxE1upjnawo1_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on March 14, 2015, 04:25:35 PM
Peterhof, 1912

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/df5467710e3df4d25feae0b92c849392/tumblr_nl7xvaZVxE1upjnawo1_1280.jpg)

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I had this photograph up on the screen and was studying it when my partner walked past.  He stopped and looked at it over my shoulder.

"They're beautiful," he said.  "Who are they?"

"They're Nicholas & Alexandra's daughters, Olga and Tatiana," I explained.

"Hmmm," he said after a pause.  "The mystique about them is probably because they died so young, like Marilyn Monroe."

"I agree," I replied.  "It's also a tragedy in every sense of the word.  That such beauty could be shot and bayoneted to death...."
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on March 14, 2015, 11:43:45 PM
Well you certainly answered him in the most direct way. The Marilyn Montoe comparison, while I get it, isn't terribly fair in my opinion. I look at the faces of these girls and see a pair of incorruptible spirits. Of course they're beautiful. Right or wrong, sagas play out as such. But it's much more than that. Its haunting! These photos are the retrieved artifacts of a lost world. An existence so equally unique and bizarre. Amazing to think it could have a taken place within the last 35-40,000 days ago
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 15, 2015, 10:10:25 AM
Peterhof, 1913

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/14c5e216724ed6979e60dba05153f38c/tumblr_nl9dtrJVaf1upjnawo1_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on March 15, 2015, 01:46:56 PM
Well you certainly answered him in the most direct way. The Marilyn Montoe comparison, while I get it, isn't terribly fair in my opinion. I look at the faces of these girls and see a pair of incorruptible spirits. Of course they're beautiful. Right or wrong, sagas play out as such. But it's much more than that. Its haunting! These photos are the retrieved artifacts of a lost world. An existence so equally unique and bizarre. Amazing to think it could have a taken place within the last 35-40,000 days ago

Well said, edubs .As long as I've been absorbed in the Romanov Imperial Family mystique, it never really diminishes. I've learned and thought so much about them; seen thousands of photos, many of them so many times; I've seen a lot of film showing them; and I've held a small artifact of their life. I never cease to be moved profoundly by the sight and thought of these girls. Certainly haunting is the right word. But it's so much more.
Though it may be trite to say so, these young people really do seem unique, one of a kind, special. And yes, I guess beauty and innocence are at the heart of it, especially the latter. Or as you say, their almost preternatural incorruptibility, their seeming to be untouched by even the worst of humanity. And even granting that, it's striking that such a quality is so often conveyed in photos, that is, by how they look and carry themselves in even the slightest of ways.

Admittedly my reaction is subjective, but it's so widespread, almost (not quite literally) universal. It's quite remarkable that so often a single century-old photo of one or more of these young girls can spark such strong emotions for this sixty-something man on another continent in the modernity of the  21st century. But of course it's not just me .It's millions of both sexes and all ages and circumstances.

Ah well, pardon this little opinion piece, but this reaction to these IF and OTMA photos is so frequent and striking that I thought it worth noting in print.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Превед on March 15, 2015, 02:32:34 PM
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Превед on March 15, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.

And the more mundane NAOTMAA seem to me, the more fascinating does Russia itself seem.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on March 15, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
Peterhof, 1913

Wonderful! Olga and Anastasia were also photographed on the same spot. There's a similar photo of Maria, but since it doesn't show the curtains that are visible in the other girls' photos I'm not absolutely sure it's the same window.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 16, 2015, 07:41:25 AM
Livadia, 1912

(http://36.media.tumblr.com/06888eb6d036104459738a91c1d2882e/tumblr_nlazafnOfp1upjnawo1_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 16, 2015, 07:42:33 AM
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.

They actually have the opposite effect on me. The aura is still strong!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 16, 2015, 01:34:23 PM
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/c70b355012f5ab7e60b815276b85209b/tumblr_nlbh2rUxuM1upjnawo1_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on March 16, 2015, 11:38:25 PM
I have noticed that the more new photos I see, the less excited I get about them. I still enjoy seeing them and they aren't at all mundane, but it's happening to frequently now I'm getting used to it.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on March 17, 2015, 07:02:25 AM
I like the one of Tatiana peeking through the window.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 17, 2015, 02:03:17 PM
I definitely do not share Clock´s feelings. I still get as ecited as ever :-)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on March 17, 2015, 09:41:56 PM
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.

And the more mundane NAOTMAA seem to me, the more fascinating does Russia itself seem.

I'm fairly certainly I'm going to regret asking you this...but how so?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Превед on March 18, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.

And the more mundane NAOTMAA seem to me, the more fascinating does Russia itself seem.

I'm fairly certainly I'm going to regret asking you this...but how so?

LOL, you know me now!
Maybe because all these endless pictures of each other make them appear self-centred, like modern selfie teens? It also underlines how they lived in a cocoon. And crossing breaking out of this shell, crossing this boundary seems so fascinating. My homeland Norway shares a border with Russia, but the country on the other side is as strange to me as Deep Russia must have been to NAOTMAA.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on March 18, 2015, 01:04:37 PM
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.

And the more mundane NAOTMAA seem to me, the more fascinating does Russia itself seem.

I'm fairly certainly I'm going to regret asking you this...but how so?

LOL, you know me now!
Maybe because all these endless pictures of each other make them appear self-centred, like modern selfie teens? It also underlines how they lived in a cocoon. And crossing breaking out of this shell, crossing this boundary seems so fascinating. My homeland Norway shares a border with Russia, but the country on the other side is as strange to me as Deep Russia must have been to NAOTMAA.

Fair points. I have to say that a part of me looks at these photos with a certain degree of pity. Not because I can't get their tragic deaths out of my mind but because, as you say, they appear as much caged birds as free-spirited youth. Their smiles perhaps betraying their inner anguish. But therein lies my fascination with them as well. What's Olga thinking? What is Alexandra feeling? What is Nicholas putting out of his mind? And Alexei. Has any child lived a more bizarre existence than the last Tsarevich of Russia?

I'm naturally drawn to this element. Not just because they take pretty pictures. But the sheer number of photographs we have, and what each of those reveals (and doesn't reveal) about these seven individuals and their incredibly unique existence.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on March 18, 2015, 05:26:47 PM
In a way they were prisoners, long before Lenin showed up.  Prisoners of their imperial status.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 19, 2015, 03:30:21 AM
I would say they were sheltered, but hardly "prisoners". At least after reading Helen Azar´s books, one can see the girls actually had plenty of contact with other people. In fact, I don´t think other Princesses of the time had much more interaction either. Had the war not happened, the girls would have made their social debuts, would have time for suitors, maybe even travelling.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on March 20, 2015, 10:11:49 AM
Still, they didn't have normal lives.  They couldn't go out and make friends on their own when they were little.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on March 20, 2015, 01:33:22 PM
Рейд “Штандарт”, 1910 год
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(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4412/98255750.e/0_149d95_ed87128d_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Превед on March 20, 2015, 03:31:53 PM
Has any child lived a more bizarre existence than the last Tsarevich of Russia?

Don't you think that all serial killers and mass murderers must have had a more bizarre childhood than Alexey? Yes, it must have been bizarre to have the world revolve around you while you yourself remain its weakest and most fragile member, but this is a general experience for all young children in happy families. The challenge with regard to Alexey was that this infantile stage continued into his adolescence. But he was surrounded with love and affection and that usually solves most problems.

I would say they were sheltered, but hardly "prisoners". At least after reading Helen Azar´s books, one can see the girls actually had plenty of contact with other people. In fact, I don´t think other Princesses of the time had much more interaction either. Had the war not happened, the girls would have made their social debuts, would have time for suitors, maybe even travelling.

Agreed. When you first start to take an interest in OTMAA you see them as unique royal saints, cloistered inmates of the golden prison of history, but when you have seen endless photos of them you may end up viewing them more as socialites, aristocrats, rather typical for their class.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on March 20, 2015, 10:17:45 PM
Preved) I'm saying Alexei's existence was "Bizarre" not necessarily "Bad". Serial killers don't have the extreme elements in their life like Alexei had. On one hand a celebrated icon showered with adulation and affection. On the other the victim of often excruciating physical pain and last in a centuries old line of Russian royalty caught in the eye of a revolutionary storm. Serial killers, at best, grow up in anonymous middle class homes, and at worse in hellish conditions. They don't get bowed to by ministers and military leaders one moment, then find themselves laid up in bed suffering from some rare disease the next. When your inner circle includes such as extremes as distinguished heads of state and Grigory Rasputin...and the time line of your life includes such as extremes as being born a Prince in a palace to then dying a prisoner in a dirty basement, in less than fourteen years time, that's how you know you've lived one of the most uniquely peculiar existences in the history of the world.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Превед on March 21, 2015, 07:22:42 AM
Preved) I'm saying Alexei's existence was "Bizarre" not necessarily "Bad". Serial killers don't have the extreme elements in their life like Alexei had. On one hand a celebrated icon showered with adulation and affection. On the other the victim of often excruciating physical pain and last in a centuries old line of Russian royalty caught in the eye of a revolutionary storm. Serial killers, at best, grow up in anonymous middle class homes, and at worse in hellish conditions. They don't get bowed to by ministers and military leaders one moment, then find themselves laid up in bed suffering from some rare disease the next. When your inner circle includes such as extremes as distinguished heads of state and Grigory Rasputin...and the time line of your life includes such as extremes as being born a Prince in a palace to then dying a prisoner in a dirty basement, in less than fourteen years time, that's how you know you've lived one of the most uniquely peculiar existences in the history of the world.

I agree Alexey's life appeared bizarre from the outside, but probably not to himself. To a child it doesn't matter whether visitors are heads of state or some lowly office workers, they are still "your parents' friends" come visiting and you judge them on how kind and fun they are, not their position in society. His avuncular relationship with all those generals and ministers shows that very well. Not forgetting that many heads of state were family first and foremost, not kings and queens. To Alexey Rasputin was not "Rasputin, the mad monk from Siberia, the horror story that started the Revolution", but "our friend".

Maybe a serial killer grows up thinking his world is the natural state of things, but evidently something is lacking (love), considering what they do later. I am no specialist, but I'm pretty sure many people with different development conditions predisposing them to be serial killers realize that they are different than other people. Often, ironically, as having "megalomania", i.e. they think themselves vastly superior to others (yet feeling intolerably inferior) and thus with permission to harm people they don't like. I.e. conditions which would be very similar to Alexey's actual existence, minus the love that probably cured him of such ideas.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on March 21, 2015, 08:49:57 AM
Obviously serial killers tend to suffer from varying mental disorders that encourage them to act a certain way. Just as you say about Alexei not thinking there was much out of the ordinary about his own life however, so too does a madman often believe their actions and their lack of respect for human life to be perfectly normal. Does ISIS consider their own actions absurd? Of course not. They consider the majority of the rest of the world wrong and necessary to purge.

I do agree with you that judging ones existence by how they themselves view the world makes Alexei's life seem far less strange and unique. But judging it as it truly was (an outsiders view) makes it one of the more bizarre existences in modern world history.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on March 21, 2015, 09:29:31 AM
Often, ironically, as having "megalomania", i.e. they think themselves vastly superior to others (yet feeling intolerably inferior) and thus with permission to harm people they don't like. I.e. conditions which would be very similar to Alexey's actual existence, minus the love that probably cured him of such ideas.

I realize I'm being pedantic, but I'd hesitate to say "cured," which implies that Aleksei had these inclinations.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Превед on March 21, 2015, 01:20:32 PM
I realize I'm being pedantic, but I'd hesitate to say "cured," which implies that Aleksei had these inclinations.

OK, "prevent" then.

Just as you say about Alexei not thinking there was much out of the ordinary about his own life however, so too does a madman often believe their actions and their lack of respect for human life to be perfectly normal.

Yes, normal for them, who consider themselves "special", I'd argue. Unless they are very psychopathic or autistic, they often see themselves as some kind of "avenger" with the power to take the life of their "inferiors".

Quote
Does ISIS consider their own actions absurd? Of course not. They consider the majority of the rest of the world wrong and necessary to purge.

It's hard to judge ISIS members, when not lone terrorists, in this context, because they kill as part of a group, similar to a regular army and thus group psychology plays in. They can care a lot about members of their own group and still hate and kill the enemy.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on March 22, 2015, 03:30:44 AM
Рейд “Штандарт”, 1910 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 260 л. 2 об. фото 27

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4412/98255750.e/0_149d95_ed87128d_orig)

It looks like Tatiana is trying to wrest the camera from the hands of the woman at left.  BTW, who are the women in this photo?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on March 22, 2015, 10:29:47 AM
They're Byutsova and Schneider.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on March 22, 2015, 11:09:08 PM
Really excellent photo quality here, especially with a sort of close-up of Byutsova's face. By this standard I think we could identify 99% of the photo subjects we wonder about.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Bryndis on March 23, 2015, 08:35:01 AM
Thank you for increasing my 1910-dress collection ; )
OTMA skating on the Standart was one of the first Romanov footage I ever saw.
I know this doesn't all belong here but I just wanted to post this :Ţ

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20%20Olga%20Byutsova%20and%20schneider_zpsnbn21ly5.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20%20Olga%20Byutsova%20and%20schneider_zpsnbn21ly5.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca%20with%20%20Olga%20Byutsova_zpsc0ekgkmg.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca%20with%20%20Olga%20Byutsova_zpsc0ekgkmg.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20Olga%20Byutsova%20and%20schneider_zpsuhiy0zff.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20Olga%20Byutsova%20and%20schneider_zpsuhiy0zff.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20Olga%20Byutsova_zpsxoyxsbjk.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20Olga%20Byutsova_zpsxoyxsbjk.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca_zps3i2remxe.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca_zps3i2remxe.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca%20officer_zpswwyzbbzm.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca%20officer_zpswwyzbbzm.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca_zpsqgk2mlux.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca_zpsqgk2mlux.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca%20Botkin_zpsxmgxrvpi.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca%20Botkin_zpsxmgxrvpi.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20with%20Pavel%20Voronov_zps3p23r8i6.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20with%20Pavel%20Voronov_zps3p23r8i6.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20skating_zpshqklzajk.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20skating_zpshqklzajk.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/grosf_zpshjsp9w94.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/grosf_zpshjsp9w94.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca_zpsls1syrju.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20ca_zpsls1syrju.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20with%20dr%20botkin_zpsc7rb6agz.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20with%20dr%20botkin_zpsc7rb6agz.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1909%20crimea_zps2i6pyf3o.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1909%20crimea_zps2i6pyf3o.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/Dresses%201910/1910%20grass_zps4syc9oes.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/Dresses%201910/1910%20grass_zps4syc9oes.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on March 23, 2015, 11:39:47 AM
Great collection indeed!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on March 23, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
Thank you, Sarushka, for the identifications.  (Mlle Schneider looks sooooo much older with her head bent down in that picture.)

And thank you, Bryndis, for this stunning collection of photos.  I've seen most, if not all of them, but never together.  It's nice to be able to relate one to the other.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on March 27, 2015, 03:18:38 PM
Does anyone else think Tatiana looks a lot like her great-grandmother, Empress Maria Alexandrovna, in that last photo?

Dru, I've thought that for years.. The eyes,  the narrow face, and at times;  the haunted look...it's obvious...but one must view pictures of  the younger  Maria Alexandrovna to see it clearly...btw Maria Alexandrovna was the ghost Olga saw as a small  child . When  her nanny, Margarette Eagar,  said she did not see the figure , Olga said " well you must be very stupid because she was right there "  lol Of course  in 1903 the Little Pair saw a ghost doctor enter Little Ella's room too...and were terrified
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on March 28, 2015, 02:49:38 PM
Does anyone else think Tatiana looks a lot like her great-grandmother, Empress Maria Alexandrovna, in that last photo?

Dru, I've thought that for years.. The eyes,  the narrow face, and at times;  the haunted look...it's obvious...but one must view pictures of  the younger  Maria Alexandrovna to see it clearly...btw Maria Alexandrovna was the ghost Olga saw as a small  child . When  her nanny, Margarette Eagar,  said she did not see the figure , Olga said " well you must be very stupid because she was right there "  lol Of course  in 1903 the Little Pair saw a ghost doctor enter Little Ella's room too...and were terrified

Several years ago, Ally photoshopped Tatiana's face into the famous Winterhalter portrait of Maria Alexandrovna, and the resemblance is absolutely striking.  The artwork is very impressive too, of course :)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 04, 2015, 03:36:24 PM
Царское Село, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 25 фото 368

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15534/98255750.e/0_14db52_7421d278_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on April 04, 2015, 06:52:25 PM
It looks almost as if Tatiana was a modern adolescent and decided to crop her hair short in this photo. It's truly lovely.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on April 05, 2015, 03:55:27 PM
That is a wonderful photo!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 06, 2015, 12:06:00 PM
I've never seen this one before.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria Sisi on April 06, 2015, 01:45:13 PM
I've never seen that photo either.

Sitting on those pots on the railing would have scared me...too afraid I would fall backwards.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 06, 2015, 06:36:12 PM
Александровский дворец, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 25 фото 372

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6818/98255750.e/0_14de6f_ba261f3a_orig) (https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5107/98255750.e/0_14de70_7760d6eb_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Maria on April 07, 2015, 04:37:37 AM
 Am I the only one loving Tatiana's pose in this photo?
http://40.media.tumblr.com/4d17c16a53ba4f4e9f0e7b4bdf45b8c7/tumblr_nl0flhAUtu1upjnawo1_1280.jpg

 It's very "modelish"! I can imagine her wearing a 50's classic coat and dress style and doing that pose while leaning on a wall or railing somewhere. I'd very much like looking at that photo over and over again if it were in a fashion magazine!

Loving those latest posted photos, too. She really suits the cropped hair. Her looks are soo classic. Of course, the Hollywood beauties like Audrey Hepburn, Elizabeth Taylor, Grace Kelly, etc. are very beautiful, but Tatiana, wow, she does nothing to her face yet she exceeds them all in beauty.

Sooo much thanks for the showers of treasures to everyone of you who post new photos, most especially Mr. Ilya, because it's from you where most of the photos came from!!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on April 07, 2015, 02:57:04 PM
That's it! Yes! Audrey Hepburn! That's who she reminds me of with the short hair!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 07, 2015, 05:17:02 PM
Quote
Sooo much thanks for the showers of treasures to everyone of you who post new photos

Ditto for me too.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 12, 2015, 11:24:24 AM
Севастополь (?), 1912 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 265 л. 4 фото 22

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5607/98255750.e/0_14f3f3_3594bb4d_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 13, 2015, 05:22:37 PM
I'm guessing the Standart again...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 14, 2015, 07:05:25 AM
Петергоф, 1912 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 14 фото 190

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4528/98255750.e/0_14fd3e_2d85b09a_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on April 14, 2015, 02:24:26 PM
Anastasia in the back?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 14, 2015, 05:15:33 PM
i think she
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on April 14, 2015, 05:29:24 PM
And that's Voronov, isn't it?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on April 14, 2015, 07:35:20 PM
And that's Voronov, isn't it?

Yes.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 15, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
The Imp is looking the wrong way.  LOL!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on April 16, 2015, 02:15:04 PM
And that's Voronov, isn't it?

Yes.

Thanks for the positive ID--I'm afraid I'm not always the best at recognizing the various sailors  ::)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 18, 2015, 12:05:18 PM
Ливадия, 1912 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 1 фото 3

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4606/98255750.e/0_151d82_37ece0c7_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 22, 2015, 11:10:54 AM
Царское Село, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 67 об. фото 997

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3209/98255750.10/0_152892_f9b7709c_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on April 23, 2015, 06:35:14 AM
Now that's so nice. I personally like 1915 photos taken at Tsarskoe Selo. Spasibo, Mr. Ilya!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Bryndis on April 23, 2015, 06:54:43 AM
Such a beautiful photo.
Where at Tsarskoe Selo  is this taken?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 23, 2015, 07:26:48 AM
Bryndis, i dont know
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on April 23, 2015, 02:41:52 PM
Царское Село, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 67 об. фото 997

Stunning!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 25, 2015, 12:12:33 PM
I certainly agree, it is stunning!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on April 26, 2015, 05:39:45 PM
These are all fantastic photos.  The 1911 photo of the big pair at a lesson on the rooftop at Livadia has always been one of my favorites.

Re the forensic reconstruction:  I agree it looks nothing like Tatiana, probably because it displays not the slightest trace of human facial expression.  It's kinda creepy, really.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 27, 2015, 03:27:31 PM
Крым, Ореанда (?), 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 46 об. фото 676

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6815/98255750.11/0_153663_47e2171a_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 27, 2015, 05:15:44 PM
Another lovely picture of my favourite GD.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 27, 2015, 06:22:51 PM
TimM, here is one of my favorite)
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15523/98255750.11/0_15366e_4d000fd_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on April 28, 2015, 12:28:02 PM
Крым, Ореанда (?), 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 46 об. фото 676

Looks like she's sitting quite close to the edge! She's wearing the same outfit as in the old photos of her and Olga from the Yale album. This image shows a lot of wonderful details in the clothing.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on April 28, 2015, 01:57:43 PM
Yeah, Coroner, it's a beautiful picture.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on April 29, 2015, 12:54:39 PM
Царское Село, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 80 фото 1194

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3810/98255750.11/0_15381e_90cc8b1e_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 29, 2015, 03:01:00 PM
Hauntingly beautiful! For some reason I imediatelly imagined her in the Empire style clothes. She would have looked divine.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Bryndis on May 01, 2015, 12:52:36 PM
The description says Tsarskoe Selo but isn't this Peterhof or something? I've seen photos from a big sunny room in Peterhof with similar furniture.

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20tsarskoe2_zpsfpbwleed.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1915/1915%20tsarskoe2_zpsfpbwleed.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20tsarskoe%20selo2_zpswyvowe03.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1915/1915%20tsarskoe%20selo2_zpswyvowe03.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20tsarskoe_zps6m25x2ny.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1915/1915%20tsarskoe_zps6m25x2ny.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20with%20George%20Battenberg%20at%20Peterhof.png_zpsysqrosmn.jpeg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1915/1915%20with%20George%20Battenberg%20at%20Peterhof.png_zpsysqrosmn.jpeg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915_zpsopcdnmmj.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1915/1915_zpsopcdnmmj.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20with%20cousin%20George_zpskowxoivv.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1915/1915%20with%20cousin%20George_zpskowxoivv.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20peterhof_zpsouwkobjp.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1915/1915%20peterhof_zpsouwkobjp.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20troops_zpswgsc8t7r.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1915/1915%20troops_zpswgsc8t7r.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20otma_zpstwvisxgw.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1915/1915%20otma_zpstwvisxgw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on May 01, 2015, 05:06:40 PM
I think Tatiana would have made a great fashion model.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on May 04, 2015, 05:14:57 PM
У руин дворца в Ореанде, 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 47 фото 692

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/16110/98255750.11/0_15402e_a4a7a20e_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on May 04, 2015, 06:04:05 PM
The description says Tsarskoe Selo but isn't this Peterhof or something? I've seen photos from a big sunny room in Peterhof with similar furniture.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20troops_zpswgsc8t7r.jpg
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20otma_zpstwvisxgw.jpg
These two were taken in July of 1914 actually, as far as I remember. The one with G. Mountbatten too. But the others were most likely taken in 1915, the ones of OTM alone near the balcony.
You know, it is famous '1914 or 1915 dilemma'. :-( I wish we could know the real answer. If it was 1915, O and T would likely be seen in their nurse uniforms but it is not always the pointer.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Bryndis on May 04, 2015, 10:57:28 PM
The description says Tsarskoe Selo but isn't this Peterhof or something? I've seen photos from a big sunny room in Peterhof with similar furniture.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20troops_zpswgsc8t7r.jpg
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20otma_zpstwvisxgw.jpg
These two were taken in July of 1914 actually, as far as I remember. The one with G. Mountbatten too. But the others were most likely taken in 1915, the ones of OTM alone near the balcony.
You know, it is famous '1914 or 1915 dilemma'. :-( I wish we could know the real answer. If it was 1915, O and T would likely be seen in their nurse uniforms but it is not always the pointer.

Maria started to put her hair up in 1915. It looks like her hair is up in those two as well. Only Anastasia still has her hair down. That's why I thought they were all taken in 1915.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on May 05, 2015, 01:24:45 AM
She in fact started to wear her hair up in 1914 for some reason before her 16th birthday, see:

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_91402790_OM1915_2_zps5hkmqqm0.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/91402790_OM1915_2_zps5hkmqqm0.jpg.html)(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_9af0b03db5f5t_zpsp0kprdt9.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/9af0b03db5f5t_zpsp0kprdt9.jpg.html)(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_b30ce9e91cd340426b2ee4c04e023544_zpszhnfncsx.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/b30ce9e91cd340426b2ee4c04e023544_zpszhnfncsx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Bryndis on May 05, 2015, 09:50:27 AM
She in fact started to wear her hair up in 1914 for some reason before her 16th birthday, see:

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_91402790_OM1915_2_zps5hkmqqm0.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/91402790_OM1915_2_zps5hkmqqm0.jpg.html)(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_9af0b03db5f5t_zpsp0kprdt9.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/9af0b03db5f5t_zpsp0kprdt9.jpg.html)(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_b30ce9e91cd340426b2ee4c04e023544_zpszhnfncsx.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/b30ce9e91cd340426b2ee4c04e023544_zpszhnfncsx.jpg.html)

So she started to put her hair up when the war started? Because there are a lot of photos of her with her hair down in 1914.
In the 1914 formal photo shoot for example and when they went to Romania the same year.

But why are we talking about years? I was just doubting these new photos were taken at Tsarskoe Selo XD
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on May 05, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
So she started to put her hair up when the war started? Because there are a lot of photos of her with her hair down in 1914.
In the 1914 formal photo shoot for example and when they went to Romania the same year.
Yes, during June she was wearing her hair down and then all of sudden, she started wearing it up.
But why are we talking about years? I was just doubting these new photos were taken at Tsarskoe Selo XD
Since date is as important as place. :-) In come cases it can even be more significant. Yes, it is one more dilemma, called 'Tsarskoe or Peterhof'.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on May 05, 2015, 05:22:15 PM
Whether her hair is up or down, she still looks gorgeous.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on May 07, 2015, 09:23:36 AM
The description says Tsarskoe Selo but isn't this Peterhof or something? I've seen photos from a big sunny room in Peterhof with similar furniture.

I believe this is a curtained balcony, rather than a proper room. The furniture and floor covering in this photo doesn't match those at Peterhof.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on May 07, 2015, 09:00:03 PM
I've always been under the impression that these photos were taken out on Alexandra's balcony.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on May 08, 2015, 05:51:19 PM
At Tsarskoe Selo, I presume.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on May 09, 2015, 01:21:32 AM
Yes, Tim, at the Alexander Palace.  I don't know why I left that out.  :-)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sarushka on May 09, 2015, 08:32:59 AM
I've always been under the impression that these photos were taken out on Alexandra's balcony.

I think you're right. It appears they occasionally screened off the open railings (perhaps during cooler weather?) which leads to confusion about the location.

For example, I always thought this photo of Maria was taken at Peterhof, but I just noticed the edge of a metal post in the upper right corner that matches Alexandra's balcony at Tsarskoe Selo: (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20tsarskoe_zps6m25x2ny.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1915/1915%20tsarskoe_zps6m25x2ny.jpg.html)

And the floor in that photo matches the floor in the other photos Bryndis posted. Further, there are photos of Alexandra, Olga, and Tatiana wearing their Red Cross uniforms on this same balcony, which also points to Tsarskoe rather than Peterhof.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on May 09, 2015, 11:34:41 AM
So indoor photos ot OTM were taken at Tsarksoe Selo but outdoor ones such this

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20with%20cousin%20George_zpskowxoivv.jpg

were taken indeed at Peterhof but in 1914, not in 1915. That would be the final analysis, don't you agree? Simply the Grand Duchesses were wearing the same dresses at both places. 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on May 10, 2015, 05:53:20 PM
Yeah, it would be around the start of the First World War.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on May 12, 2015, 06:16:32 AM
Царское Село, 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 61 фото 886

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9831/98255750.11/0_154f4a_97b3525d_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Bryndis on May 12, 2015, 11:14:26 AM
Tatiana in Alexandra's dressing room at the Alexander Palace.
 I've never seen a photo of a person in that room. Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on May 12, 2015, 01:38:07 PM
I believe that it is one of the very first photos of GD taken in nurse uniform given the fact that it was taken in 1914.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on May 13, 2015, 07:32:22 PM
She looks nice in her nurses outfit.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on May 14, 2015, 02:29:20 AM
Tatiana and her sisters in Darmstadt (open in a new tab for full size)

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/1b283f4a10ea6741b4f310a17c0c04c2/tumblr_nobwrfstsE1rh07xwo2_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on May 14, 2015, 06:53:09 AM
Царское Село, 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 61 фото 884

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6734/98255750.11/0_1552c5_ad590e98_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on May 14, 2015, 04:06:20 PM
"Царское Село, 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 61 фото 884" - this photo was made possible not even in Petrograd, but in Moscow. If someone can help in the attribution, I will be grateful
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 14, 2015, 07:32:09 PM
It is always a great pleasure for me to see more photos of Tatiana in 1914 (that hair style suited her incredibly well), thank you very much for sharing these jewels with us Mr. Ilya!! n_n
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on May 14, 2015, 11:17:21 PM
I'm once again left wondering about the year. The hair looks more like the style Olga wore which Tariana couldn't wear until about 1915.

Or is there more hair to it that I'm not seeing?

And of course as Yelena said, thank you so much :-)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on May 15, 2015, 11:03:45 AM
Царское Село, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 67 об. фото 1002

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9254/98255750.11/0_1553b5_854f1ded_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on May 20, 2015, 04:42:00 PM
Крым, 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 44 об. фото 641

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6107/98255750.12/0_155c20_5ca82b1b_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on May 21, 2015, 12:06:01 AM
Царское Село, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 67 об. фото 1002

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9254/98255750.11/0_1553b5_854f1ded_orig)
most appealing.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on May 21, 2015, 05:02:31 PM
I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on May 28, 2015, 07:04:18 AM
Царское Село, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 68 об. фото 1016

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6816/98255750.12/0_156588_8edaba90_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on May 28, 2015, 06:38:25 PM
Re the lace cover visible in the lower right corner of the above photo:  Could it be from Alexandra's couch in the mauve boudoir, and the one that accompanied the family into exile and was used as an altar cloth at the Governor's Mansion?  If so, it's a nice close up of the detailing.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on May 29, 2015, 02:12:47 PM
Татьяна Николаевна (?) в Крыму, 1916 год
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 5 фото 65

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5812/98255750.16/0_156787_79006bcf_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on May 29, 2015, 03:09:44 PM
No ?  necessary for the photo label. It's Tatiana.The true question is: what's that thingy above her head? I trust it's not some form of medieval torture device.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: amartin71718 on May 29, 2015, 06:27:28 PM
A drying rack, perhaps? Or something on which one could hang knitted things? I've seen things like it in my mom's fiber studio, but can't seem to place exactly what it is.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on May 30, 2015, 10:09:17 AM
I think it is called knitting caddy, see:

(http://infiniteyarns.com/uploads/images_products/193.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on May 30, 2015, 01:59:32 PM
Attempting a silly photo? :D
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on May 30, 2015, 08:14:00 PM
It looks like a folding stool turned upside down.  Even if it was meant as humor, it's kinda bizarre...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on May 31, 2015, 02:36:52 PM
I think it's great. You just know one or more of the sisters was behind this. Getting the normally serious "Governess" to be the focus of such a silly photo, while reading no less, is quite an accomplishment! Playful and endearing.

Perhaps even a little covert statement the girls were making? Poking fun at some pretty ridiculous looking matching hats they had to wear?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on June 02, 2015, 05:13:07 PM
I agree.  Some of those hats looked like UFO's that had landed on their heads!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 03, 2015, 03:30:44 AM
Tatiana always seems so unearthly, elfine in all her photographs, no matter if they are from early 1900s or the war. Her sisters were all very much real-looking, but she looks strangely fairy-like all the time.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on June 04, 2015, 11:09:45 AM
I think it's great. You just know one or more of the sisters was behind this. Getting the normally serious "Governess" to be the focus of such a silly photo, while reading no less, is quite an accomplishment! Playful and endearing.

It really is great; the quiet unassuming look on Tatiana's face as she's reading. She knows perfectly well the silliness of the shot yet she holds her normal look and body language and that makes it even better.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kassafrass on June 04, 2015, 11:11:15 AM
Tatiana always seems so unearthly, elfine in all her photographs, no matter if they are from early 1900s or the war. Her sisters were all very much real-looking, but she looks strangely fairy-like all the time.

Truly a "fairy queen"! :) Haven't some people photoshopped her face onto the bodies of fairies in the past?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on June 04, 2015, 05:24:01 PM
Tatiana always seems so unearthly, elfine in all her photographs, no matter if they are from early 1900s or the war. Her sisters were all very much real-looking, but she looks strangely fairy-like all the time.

Truly and well said. Well done, Ally for your analysis. What would you tell about OMA's expressions and impressions in the photos, from your point of a view?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 12, 2015, 07:54:54 AM
Tatiana always seems so unearthly, elfine in all her photographs, no matter if they are from early 1900s or the war. Her sisters were all very much real-looking, but she looks strangely fairy-like all the time.

Truly and well said. Well done, Ally for your analysis. What would you tell about OMA's expressions and impressions in the photos, from your point of a view?

Whenever I see a picture of Olga the word that strucks me is "melancholy". There is something proud about her face too, but it is not the disdainful pride, more of the inborn intimacy with Imperial splendour. In many pictures taken after 1914 she looks trapped somehow.

Maria is, to me, the most perfect representation of "traditional" Russian beauty. I seem to recall a quote by certain madame Ofrosima, which described Maria as an image of ancient boyarinas with kokoshnik on her head and draped in sarafan. Her face is always non-pretentious and so easy to read. Maria was as honest as you could imagine, not able (or not willing) to put on the regal, distant expression. There is sweetness, genuine interest. Or utter boredom. Depends on the occassion really.

Anastasia, so often squinting her eyes in pictures, has always come off as a tomboy. My impressions, which really are just personal view on what the girls could have been like, do not differ from the general view that she was very energetic and rarely could stand still. There was always something on her mind - something mischievous I am sure.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on June 13, 2015, 11:22:48 AM
"Последний день на яхте в Севастополе", 1914 г.
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 262 л. 23 об. фото 411

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15482/98255750.17/0_157a41_1bd03529_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on June 23, 2015, 10:02:10 AM
Татьяна Николаевна в Царском Селе, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 66 об. фото 976

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3606/98255750.52/0_159c6c_7a884d30_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on June 23, 2015, 10:35:47 PM
How chilling.  Where had the regalia been until 1933?  And who found them?  And where have they been kept since 1933?  And finally, will they be returned to the Alexander Palace?

Please forgive all these questions; but you have me brimming with curiosity. 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on July 01, 2015, 01:02:30 PM
Татьяна Николаевна на Штандарте. Севастополь, 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 262 л. 23 об. фото 406

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4426/98255750.54/0_15a7e0_d3f2a52c_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on July 04, 2015, 07:27:31 AM
Татьяна Николаевна в Царском Селе, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 67 об. фото 1000

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4103/98255750.5a/0_15acb5_5250aaeb_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on July 04, 2015, 10:28:51 AM
Lovely! The embroidery looks beautiful.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on July 04, 2015, 01:46:41 PM
Such a contrast in the last picture:  Tatiana at the beginning of her life, looking young and fresh, and Princess Sonia looking weak and wistful as she approaches the end of hers.  Sad picture...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on July 05, 2015, 05:21:44 AM
Nice new pictures of Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Jen_94 on July 09, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
Lovely photo!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on July 10, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
I always welcome pictures of my favourite GD.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on July 12, 2015, 10:17:28 AM
Татьяна Николаевна в Ореанде, 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 46 об. фото 679

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15489/98255750.5c/0_15b895_e14ef42c_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on July 14, 2015, 12:18:21 PM
I always love these pictures from the Crimea with the mountains, Yalta, and the Black Sea visible in the background.  They (the mountains, etc) give the photos deeper context.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on July 15, 2015, 03:00:21 PM
Татьяна Николаевна с офицером на Штандарте, июнь-июль 1913 года
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 31 об. фото 441

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4607/98255750.5d/0_15bfe9_e335ae78_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on July 15, 2015, 05:21:09 PM
I'm guessing on the Standart.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on July 19, 2015, 01:26:18 AM
I'm guessing on the Standart.

You're right, Tim.  June or July 1913.  The severe expression on Tatiana's face reminds me of her Aunt Olga.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on July 20, 2015, 08:52:51 AM
Татьяна Николаевна в Крыму, 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 44 об. фото 637  

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6813/98255750.5d/0_15cb97_8f0b7f96_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on July 30, 2015, 07:40:15 AM
Татьяна Николаевна в Финских шхерах (?), 1912 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 265 л. 4 об. фото 28   

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9262/98255750.5e/0_15d782_199916a3_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on August 02, 2015, 04:30:54 PM
Татьяна Николаевна на Штандарте, 1912 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 12 фото 152

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5405/98255750.5e/0_15dbd2_e8d7088d_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on August 02, 2015, 05:25:29 PM
I wish Tatiana would smile more. 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on September 15, 2015, 04:13:13 PM
Татьяна Николаевна в Царском Селе, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 26 фото 355

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4200/98255750.6f/0_162358_d8b19865_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on September 30, 2015, 01:47:19 PM
Татьяна Николаевна в Царском Селе, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 25 фото 362

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4010/98255750.77/0_163f10_fbf3f3_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on October 03, 2015, 06:28:00 AM
Татьяна Николаевна в Крыму, 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 49 фото 722 

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4706/98255750.7c/0_16447c_d8a92fcc_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on October 04, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
Татьяна Николаевна в Петергофе, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 262 л. 9 фото 187 

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15544/98255750.7c/0_164546_3175b7e6_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on October 10, 2015, 11:43:23 AM
Татьяна Николаевна на даче “Мечта”. Евпатория, 16 мая 1916 г.
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 8 фото 109

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3101/98255750.7c/0_165eb1_6c2ec500_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on October 11, 2015, 04:47:47 AM
Татьяна Николаевна на даче “Мечта”. Евпатория, 16 мая 1916 г.
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 8 фото 109

So wonderful to see this photo in high quality!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Nemos on October 11, 2015, 01:40:46 PM
http://geglov2.narod.ru/photo/?photo=4348
Так и не понял Могилев или Царское Село-?
I did not understand the grave or Tsarskoye Selo-?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on October 11, 2015, 03:17:04 PM
Мне подсказали, что это Царское. Просто фото было на листе, где фотографии только периода поездки в Могилев осенью 1916-го
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Nemos on October 12, 2015, 08:06:42 AM
Вы не против если я их потихоньку выставлю ... (и возможно уточню коментарии).
Do you mind if I expose them slowly ...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on October 12, 2015, 03:45:27 PM
Nemos, а вы из России? просто так нечасто тут встретишь русскоговорящих. берите, естественно, у меня только одно условие - не уродовать фото крупными штампами/вотермарками, особенно поверх тел людей.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Nemos on October 13, 2015, 02:39:02 AM
Спасибо постараюсь.
На этом фото, я так понимаю водянной двигатель, только пока не понял где конкретно это было ...
Thank you try.
In this photo, I understand leading engine only until I realized where exactly it was ...
http://geglov2.narod.ru/photo/dom_romanovykh/004_vk_i_cesarevich_aleksej_nikolaevich/78?photo=4355
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on October 13, 2015, 10:24:58 AM
http://geglov2.narod.ru/photo/?photo=4348
Так и не понял Могилев или Царское Село-?
I did not understand the grave or Tsarskoye Selo-?

I clicked on the link not knowing what I would find there, and am glad I did.  What a treasure trove!  I don't think I've ever seen any of these pictures.  Thank you so much for posting!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Nemos on October 13, 2015, 11:03:05 AM
This video is just for instance ...
Это видео на вскидку ...
http://geglov2.narod.ru/video
Tell me more decent video ...
Подскажите ещё видео- приличное  ...

Меня немного ругали за некоторую вольность ... !!!?*??

Да простят меня админы , что опять не в той теме ...
Forgive me, administrators, again not in the topic ...
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on October 25, 2015, 10:14:09 AM
Татьяна Николаевна на Штандарте, 1910 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 260 л. 3 фото 30

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5201/98255750.88/0_16743f_26c31f94_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on October 30, 2015, 02:04:24 PM
Татьяна Николаевна на Штандарте, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 39 фото 550

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15548/98255750.88/0_167a79_c846586e_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on October 30, 2015, 02:05:43 PM
That is an absolutely stunning photo! Thank you!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on October 30, 2015, 02:29:53 PM
That is an absolutely stunning photo! Thank you!

всегда пожалуйста)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on October 31, 2015, 02:03:04 PM
Татьяна Николаевна в районе Могилева, 1916 год
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 13 фото 203 

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3410/98255750.88/0_167b88_3ea8a0fe_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on November 02, 2015, 11:03:21 AM
Татьяна Николаевна в Петергофе, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 262 л. 9 фото 182

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3612/98255750.88/0_16825e_1129e4d1_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Olga Maria on November 09, 2015, 01:36:46 AM
Judicial Investigator (Ilya) :' )))  I'm sooo glad to see all those pics especially the very recent one because I love that informal sister photoshoot of them in Peterhof! <3 Thank you very, very much! Spasibo!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on November 09, 2015, 09:04:27 AM
Olga Maria и еще раз пожалуйста)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: KarinK on November 16, 2015, 01:27:43 PM
Татьяна Николаевна на Штандарте, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 39 фото 550

So simple and yet so beautiful!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Judicial Investigator on November 18, 2015, 08:36:55 AM
Татьяна Николаевна в Царском Селе, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 25 фото 370

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/66316/98255750.89/0_169c79_cbb5538a_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 12, 2016, 02:23:56 PM
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/716/723/bdd08f2772_103041262_o2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on July 17, 2016, 01:31:52 PM
http://adini-nikolaevna.tumblr.com/image/147551943990 (http://adini-nikolaevna.tumblr.com/image/147551943990)

Tatiana.  From vk.com group House of Romanov. 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: blessOTMA on July 17, 2016, 01:40:13 PM
Gorgeous,  Dru! Thank you!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Rodney_G. on July 17, 2016, 11:03:54 PM
Gorgeous,  Dru! Thank you!
Indeed. New to me and a fine pic of a youngish, curious Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on July 18, 2016, 01:17:46 AM
Hauntingly beautiful and the quality is astounding!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on July 18, 2016, 10:32:45 AM
Breathtaking! Part of a larger photo shoot involving more members of the family? Or is this a little one off treasure?

Fine by me if so. That quality is truly astounding!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 08, 2016, 05:19:16 AM
Tatiana herself was so gorgeous it isn't even funny.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Bryndis on August 12, 2016, 11:11:07 AM
Tennis photos (1913?)

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/tennis2_zpstupbsipy.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/tennis2_zpstupbsipy.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/tennis3_zps9ni2tm6b.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/tennis3_zps9ni2tm6b.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/tennis4_zpst1c7cgw5.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/tennis4_zpst1c7cgw5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Kalafrana on August 13, 2016, 07:56:11 AM
Any idea who the players are besides Tatiana and her father?

Ann
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on November 15, 2016, 04:47:52 PM
Standart (https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/62627/98255750.185/0_18d878_e987cd39_orig)

Tennis (https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/109111/98255750.185/0_18cf5f_35cfd08_orig)

More tennis (https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/50666/98255750.16b/0_18b603_9fc379f7_orig)

Sleeping (https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/26144/98255750.166/0_18aded_856bcdf8_orig)

Alone (http://romanovdreams.tumblr.com/image/151153659202)

In Germany (https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/197213/98255750.195/0_190357_1d796edb_orig)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on November 16, 2016, 06:38:09 AM
Lovely pictures, all of them.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GDSophie on January 16, 2017, 08:21:39 PM
I know it's not a photo but I haven't seen this on here before so here's a GIF of Tatiana tripping up the stairs at a procession. I first thought it was Maria, who usually was the one who tripped, but nope it's definitely Tatiana. Olga's in front of her to the side who looks away at the wrong moment and probably didn't see her trip.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/05794ed0d2c029a597426e46fa02ace0/tumblr_ogfkgd9lBH1uakt8to1_400.gif (http://68.media.tumblr.com/05794ed0d2c029a597426e46fa02ace0/tumblr_ogfkgd9lBH1uakt8to1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on January 17, 2017, 12:41:24 PM
Tripping up the stairs is something I always have to laugh at when I see someone do (as long as no one is injured) and yep, no exception here!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GDSophie on January 18, 2017, 09:52:59 AM
She looks around afterwards to see if anyone saw; she glances at Olga to see if she saw not knowing that someone caught it on video but, like a true Grand Duchess, Tatiana shrugs it off. :D
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on February 10, 2017, 02:02:47 PM
https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/198303/98255750.280/0_1a334e_796661b2_orig (https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/198303/98255750.280/0_1a334e_796661b2_orig)

Tatiana, courtesy of Judicial Investigator on Tumblr. 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 27, 2017, 09:27:57 AM
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/0489257c8bd34374630c76d78ac92130/tumblr_op1cz6iaqf1upjnawo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on April 27, 2017, 10:14:37 AM
Lovely!  At least the watermark is off her eyes, unlike the one you posted of Maria.  Thanks Ally.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on May 18, 2017, 07:32:09 AM
A lovely picture of Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 15, 2017, 12:42:01 PM
Baby Tatiana

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/43b6554482403f81c90c587d04166950/tumblr_orlns9DClA1rh07xwo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on July 21, 2017, 08:46:06 AM
Alix and her girlies, 1900 (again, thank you TatianaZ!)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4230/35426852832_2c3d5583e6_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4259/35426916222_052a6277f5_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on July 21, 2017, 08:48:05 AM
Little Tatiana

(http://68.media.tumblr.com/7378b188fc380cd6cbf5352afd367374/tumblr_ot35ggDq8p1ujix9ko1_1280.jpg)

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/28ba4cf1ef442b9bf96823936911fd1e/tumblr_ot35vcJYPB1ujix9ko1_1280.jpg)

Source: https://aw-laurendet.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on July 21, 2017, 05:32:43 PM
She was a cute little girl, wasn't she.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Joanna on July 30, 2017, 07:08:51 PM
Baby Tatiana(https://68.media.tumblr.com/43b6554482403f81c90c587d04166950/tumblr_orlns9DClA1rh07xwo1_500.jpg)

A rare photograph, thank you.

I am curious if it was taken in the Winter Palace. The chair looks like a Voltaire and may have been either in the Gothic or Cupids drawing rooms on the 1st floor.

Joanna
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 02, 2017, 08:36:04 AM
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/2965473b07f5a959f49ef2761388e6cb/tumblr_otuetjtZcG1thq9wmo4_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on August 03, 2017, 12:58:08 AM
Her hair is so long here!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 04, 2017, 02:35:26 AM
Sporting a bun

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/74167f5af1f1904364be96b828c0ad3c/tumblr_otudxfktIb1thq9wmo2_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on August 05, 2017, 07:03:05 AM
Never seen this one before.  And I've been here for seven years now.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: nena on August 06, 2017, 02:51:35 PM
Same , despite me being here for over ten years. That must be Anastasia with Tatiana?
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 02, 2017, 12:20:16 PM
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/950639954a521a9b1a7f6541b7e0bdd0/tumblr_ovm8qxlYfm1rh07xwo1_540.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on September 04, 2017, 09:24:44 AM
The above has got to be one of the most riveting photos I have seen.  There's something hauntingly beautiful about it.  Perhaps it's the  the hardness of the rock and Tatiana's facial expression, offset by the softness of Alexandra's elegant stance, profile, dress, and pensive look.  Thank you for posting, Ally.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 21, 2017, 12:27:21 PM
Shared by TatianaZ on her flick

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4349/36936433220_be1b2a70a9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 23, 2017, 06:55:02 AM
Tatiana in 1911

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/752bf470058481e8e45753dc706ec73b/tumblr_owq9afExbt1twnsvso1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 23, 2017, 10:49:35 AM
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/d4157f384861f37a733c77e3dbcc12ad/tumblr_owqodbJXLk1tj4kvoo5_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/5fba0bcf8a4b7dc1da169f8c30a9cba5/tumblr_owqodbJXLk1tj4kvoo2_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/b9538273e1a14fc14cc27c12f85ff611/tumblr_owqodbJXLk1tj4kvoo1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/bb0ecf474b3337776b8822694aa4de10/tumblr_owqodbJXLk1tj4kvoo3_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 29, 2017, 01:41:27 PM
1906

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/128a366d60af2b4d35689b1e6dfa0a7f/tumblr_ox1yieT3oa1rh07xwo1_400.jpg)(https://78.media.tumblr.com/0fd55bb0ba05359b5c0c830aacf51684/tumblr_ox1yieT3oa1rh07xwo2_400.jpg)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/52d83cfd52b33283fd53d232f1485492/tumblr_ox1yieT3oa1rh07xwo3_400.jpg)(https://78.media.tumblr.com/216c4bfefaee9933b7ad49f55356446c/tumblr_ox1yieT3oa1rh07xwo4_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GDSophie on September 29, 2017, 01:57:49 PM
Thanks to whoever crossed some of them out, but at least you can still see their faces.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 29, 2017, 01:58:55 PM
Thanks to whoever crossed some of them out, but at least you can still see their faces.

I believe the one who did the crossing out was in charge of deciding which photos would be used for public images.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GDSophie on September 29, 2017, 07:10:31 PM
Thanks to whoever crossed some of them out, but at least you can still see their faces.

I believe the one who did the crossing out was in charge of deciding which photos would be used for public images.

I've only seen one or two photos from that photoshoot of each girls, not more than that but there's three photos of Maria not crossed out.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Dru on October 03, 2017, 10:31:37 PM
http://adini-nikolaevna.tumblr.com/image/166027080885 (http://adini-nikolaevna.tumblr.com/image/166027080885)

Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GDSophie on January 16, 2018, 12:09:14 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/85/7f/4c/857f4cbaf590f016ee2843be6992d553.jpg)

Tatiana and Olga, Livadia, 1907.

Olga is smiling at her sister while Tatiana looks to be running with a hand over her mouth.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GDSophie on June 14, 2018, 05:37:53 PM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/b9eaeed53ea51cab72e6584bc3d20c2e/tumblr_pabr3cnxVH1wd42hbo1_540.png)

A unique and rare photo of Tatiana holding her wig.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: edubs31 on July 02, 2018, 02:05:26 PM
Nice find Sophie! New to me.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on July 03, 2018, 11:26:41 AM
I never thought I'd live to see such a stunningly candid photo.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: SisterRomanovaTheSecond on August 09, 2018, 06:32:31 PM
Dunno if anyone has ever seen this one yet but!

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p424/thesecondsister/A534328C-5D04-43A7-9B0A-289F29686718_zpsilfxggho.jpeg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on August 10, 2018, 11:38:43 PM
Never seen this one before.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Sanochka on August 10, 2018, 11:55:29 PM
Great candid shot!  BTW, is that an automobile parked in the background? 
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: SisterRomanovaTheSecond on August 11, 2018, 02:09:55 PM
Never seen this one before.

There’s quite a few new photographs circulating lately!
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: GDSophie on September 23, 2018, 07:40:11 AM
One of Xenia's sons and I believe Tatiana? It could be Irina for all I know! I want to say Irina, because of the eyes, but I am unsure.

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f0a73794116a2b31c7575515e2c8bc469cd450ab/1058_1045_4941_3356/master/4941.jpg?width=1010&quality=85&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=6e9e6e077c5266213a68604ead4074a4)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 27, 2018, 09:41:16 AM
Yes, that is 100% Irina, not Tatiana.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on October 17, 2018, 05:53:17 PM
She does look like Tatiana.  And it's at a distance.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on October 19, 2018, 10:42:44 AM
She does look like Tatiana.  And it's at a distance.

I disagree. That is clearly Irina. And the boy is one of her younger brothers.
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: Ally Kumari on October 19, 2018, 11:17:31 AM
I found a larger resolution of the image and cropped the face out. As you can see, it is Irina ;-)

(http://nd02.jxs.cz/942/368/ef9262fdf9_105213028_u.jpg)
Title: Re: Tatiana Photographs III
Post by: TimM on October 30, 2018, 10:29:04 AM
Yep, it's definitely not Tatiana.