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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Windsors => Topic started by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 08:26:33 AM

Title: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 08:26:33 AM
5 May 1961
The Queen pays a State Visit to the Vatican City, calling on Pope John XXIII.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_1.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_2.jpg)



Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 08:32:46 AM
5 May 1961
The Queen pays a State Visit to the Vatican City, calling on Pope John XXIII.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_3.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 08:35:06 AM
5 May 1961
The Queen pays a State Visit to the Vatican City, calling on Pope John XXIII.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_5.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 08:42:00 AM
5 May 1961
The Queen pays a State Visit to the Vatican City, calling on Pope John XXIII.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_7.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_8.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:07:23 AM
5 May 1961
The Queen pays a State Visit to the Vatican City, calling on Pope John XXIII.

Details from previous photos:

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_21.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_22.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:14:45 AM
5 May 1961
The Queen pays a State Visit to the Vatican City, calling on Pope John XXIII.

Details from previous photos:

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_23.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_24.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:21:11 AM
10 April 1990
HRH The Duke of Edinburgh meets Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1990_1.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1990_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:25:37 AM
17 October 1980
The Queen pays her first State Visit to the Vatican and meets Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_1.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:28:32 AM
17 October 1980
The Queen pays her first State Visit to the Vatican and meets Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_3.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_4.jpg)

Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:31:58 AM
17 October 1980
The Queen pays her first State Visit to the Vatican and meets Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_5.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:33:33 AM
17 October 1980
The Queen pays her first State Visit to the Vatican and meets Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_8.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_7.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:36:12 AM
17 October 1980
The Queen pays her first State Visit to the Vatican and meets Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_9.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_10.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:43:44 AM
17 October 1980
The Queen pays her first State Visit to the Vatican and meets Pope John Paul II.

Details from previous photos:

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_21.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_22.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Kalafrana on April 22, 2010, 09:45:27 AM
As I remember reading at the time of the Queen's visit to Pope John Paul II (I think this was the first of two), the proper garb for female heads of state on such occasions is a black evening gown with veil and jewellery, hence the Queen's slightly unusual apparel.

Ann
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:47:22 AM
17 October 1980
The Queen pays her first State Visit to the Vatican and meets Pope John Paul II.

Details from previous photos:

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_23.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_24.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:53:13 AM
17 October 1980
The Queen pays her first State Visit to the Vatican and meets Pope John Paul II.

Details from previous photos:

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_26.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1980_25.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 09:55:47 AM
3 November 1994
The Duchess of Kent and Pope John Paul

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1994_1.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1994_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 10:18:55 AM
29 August 1985
Prince Charles and princess Diana meets Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1985_1.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1985_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 10:19:56 AM
29 August 1985
Prince Charles and princess Diana meets Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1985_3.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1985_4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 10:20:50 AM
29 August 1985
Prince Charles and princess Diana meets Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1985_5.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1985_6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 22, 2010, 10:22:36 AM
29 August 1985
Prince Charles and princess Diana meets Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1985_7.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1985_8.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 22, 2010, 10:59:13 AM
As I remember reading at the time of the Queen's visit to Pope John Paul II (I think this was the first of two), the proper garb for female heads of state on such occasions is a black evening gown with veil and jewellery, hence the Queen's slightly unusual apparel.

Ann

Thank you, Ann.

But, I must admit, the veil is very dramatic and very over the top in my opinion, and it's very unlike the Queen's style. A simple black lace veil that hung just to the shoulders would have been perfect.

After thinking about it, this outfit is just WAY over the top for me.
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Michael HR on April 22, 2010, 12:24:55 PM
I think it looked rather nice in an odd old fashioned imperial sort of way. The black set of the jewels rather well
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Patrick M on April 22, 2010, 09:05:44 PM
Thank you, Nikola, for sharing all these fascinating photos. I really like the ones from the 1961 visit. Does anyone know who designed The Queen's gown?
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 23, 2010, 07:51:03 AM
Thank you, Nikola, for sharing all these fascinating photos. I really like the ones from the 1961 visit. Does anyone know who designed The Queen's gown?

The dramatic full length black lace dress with matching veil was designed (special for this occasion) by Norman Hartnell.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/xcbxcb.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1961_22.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 23, 2010, 08:22:53 AM
13 April 1951
The Princess Elizabeth (now the Queen) and the Duke of Edinburgh meets the Pope Pius XII.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1951_1.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1951_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 23, 2010, 08:26:07 AM
13 April 1951
The Princess Elizabeth (now the Queen) and the Duke of Edinburgh meets the Pope Pius XII.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1951_3.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1951_4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 23, 2010, 08:33:45 AM
17 October 2000
The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh meets the Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/2000_1.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/2000_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 23, 2010, 08:35:32 AM
17 October 2000
The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh meets the Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/2000_4.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/2000_3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 23, 2010, 08:36:52 AM
17 October 2000
The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh meets the Pope John Paul II.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/2000_6.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/2000_5.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/2000_7.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on April 23, 2010, 10:37:34 AM
Is the fellow Christian meeting the Bishop of Rome a summus episcopus (supreme bishop, like her Lutheran collegues) or just Supreme Governor of the Church of England?

BTW QEII has a very schizophrenic religious persona, being an Anglican in England and a Presbyterian in Scotland....
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: CHRISinUSA on April 23, 2010, 03:44:28 PM
The Queen's role in relationship to the Church of England is Supreme Governor.  This is an administrative role.  She is not a bishop, nor has any ecclesiastical role in any church.  The Queen has no official position within the Church of Scotland. 



 
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 23, 2010, 04:47:10 PM
23 April 1959
The Queen Mother and Princess Margaret meets the Pope John XXIII.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1959_1.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/1959_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 28, 2010, 12:09:21 PM
List of British Royal visits to Vatican:

29 April 1903 King Edward VII meets Pope Leo XIII.
1918 Edward, Prince of Wales (later the Duke of Windsor) meets Pope Benedict XV.
1923 King George V and Queen Mary meets Pope Pius XI.
10 May 1949 Princess Margaret meets Pope Pius XII.
13 April 1951 - The Princess Elizabeth (now the Queen) and the Duke of Edinburgh meets the Pope Pius XII.
23 April 1959 - The Queen Mother and Princess Margaret meets the Pope John XXIII.
5 May 1961 - The Queen pays a State Visit to the Vatican City, calling on Pope John XXIII.
17 October 1980 - The Queen pays her first State Visit to the Vatican and meets Pope John Paul II.
29 August 1985 - Prince Charles and princess Diana meets Pope John Paul II.
9 December 1985 - Prince and Princess Michael of Kent meets Pope John Paul II.
10 April 1990 - HRH The Duke of Edinburgh meets Pope John Paul II.
3 November 1994 - The Duchess of Kent and Pope John Paul
17 October 2000 - The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh meets the Pope John Paul II.
27 April 2009 The Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall meets Pope Benedict XVI.
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on April 28, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
10 May 1949 Princess Margaret meets Pope Pius XII.

"Princess Margaret received a private audience with Pope Pius XII during her visit to Rome in May 1949. Dressed in black, her head covered with a fine silk veil, the Princess attended the Vatican on the afternoon of the 10 May. She was accompanied by the Queen's private secretary, Major Harvey and his wife. She spent 20 minutes in private conversation with the Pope and on leaving he presented her with present icon. During the time in the Vatican she was shown the Raphael Rooms, the Sistine Chapel and the basilica of St. Peters.

A contemporary photograph shows the Princess after her audience, being escorted by a Knight of Malta and men of the Swiss Guard. In her hands she is holding the Pope's gift."
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Nikola on September 12, 2010, 03:17:52 PM
17 October 2000
The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh meets the Pope John Paul II.


(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/4973738465_b64a0de5dd_o.jpg)

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/NikolaKg/4974355212_6e7e08da39_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: kamlowsky on November 23, 2010, 04:32:45 AM
What I think is very interesting is that she does not wear gloves when shaking hands with any of the Popes.  I also think I saw a picture of her recently in a group setting without gloves.
Title: Re: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Превед on April 05, 2014, 10:15:39 PM
Подарок Папы Римского принцу Джорджу: http://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/2012340.html (http://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/2012340.html)
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Gift from the Roman Pope to Prince George.

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Ugly!
Title: The Queen (and the Royal Family) - Official visit to Vatican
Post by: Lucien on April 06, 2014, 09:39:59 AM
More from the Casa di Santa Martha,Vatican.

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=03-04-2014%20Paus

courtesy PPE