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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Marie Feodorovna => Topic started by: Svetabel on May 31, 2010, 11:14:19 PM

Title: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on May 31, 2010, 11:14:19 PM
Here's Part III.

Please don't post the previously posted images unless they are bigger.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: EllaDagmar on June 08, 2010, 04:42:09 AM
There is an exhibition of Marie Feodorovna in Etelä-Karjalan museo (south karelia museum) Lappeenranta, Finland in May 9 - August 29.

The exhibition is done in co-operation with these international museums: "Pavlovsk palace museum" and "Amelienborg royal museum in Copenhagen".

The museum is in the fortress of Lappeenranta.

It's office hours are:

summer 7.6.-22.8.2010 :
mon-fri 10-18, san-sat 11-17
Street address:
Kristiinankatu 15, 53900 Lappeenranta (Fortress area)

Mailing address:
South Karelia Museum,
P.O.Box 239, 53101 Lappeenranta

Further information :
tel: +358 5 616 2255, +358 5 616 2261
Fax: +358 5 616 2911
e-mail: museot(at)lappeenranta.fi

Here are some links in english:
about the museum
http://www.lappeenranta.fi/?deptid=13346
about the exhibiton
http://www.lappeenranta.fi/?DeptID=18964

p.s. they've also published a book about the exhibition called
"prinsessa dagmar keisarinna Maria Fjodorovna - princess Dagmar Empress Marie Feodorovna".
p.p.s. sorry for my bad bad english
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 08, 2010, 01:22:39 PM
Finally something new (or at least NOT so repeated) to add

(http://i46.tinypic.com/288mn7s.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 08, 2010, 01:31:21 PM
Looks like mug shorts. I wonder if she used it for a passport ? (she only needed one after she went in exile inn Denmark).
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 08, 2010, 01:49:34 PM
i doubt so. That s just an "artsy" way to take pictures, thats all (There s also of Alexander III and Alexander II)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 08, 2010, 01:55:16 PM
Yes I agree with you. However I wonder what photo she put on her Danish passport when she went on exile.  :-\
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 08, 2010, 02:04:37 PM
I don't think that sher used those photos for any passport, she is very young on them for say that she could use them on her time of exhile, thanks for posting, they're totally new for me
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 08, 2010, 02:15:13 PM
Yes. Maybe those she took in Hvidore with Alix.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olga Maria on June 16, 2010, 12:37:01 AM
I hope  bigger versions of each picture will be seen someday.

Her gowns (the dressmaker's surname was not mentioned in the website where I found these)

(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/th_86b2d9b42fb3.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/86b2d9b42fb3.jpg)  (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/th_95d1b0e0d46f.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/95d1b0e0d46f.jpg)

detail of the 2nd one
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/th_5aa1e00c981c.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/5aa1e00c981c.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 16, 2010, 09:25:26 AM
if im not wrong those already where posted like twice in the other topic.

A nice brooch of Marie and Alexander

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2n9hmaw.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 16, 2010, 09:29:22 AM
Lovely brooch. Who owns it now ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 16, 2010, 12:56:13 PM
It's a very beautiful one! Was it made for commemorate AIII's death? (For the year it has written below) or was a simply coincidence?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 16, 2010, 01:10:11 PM
i have no idea. I will  ask to my friend who has that book (or cataloge)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Condecontessa on June 17, 2010, 03:27:23 PM
I think it's from the book Jewels of the Tsars by Prince Michael of Greece
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 17, 2010, 05:47:18 PM
Or maybe from the catalogue of the Amalienborg Palace ? I think I will go check.  ;)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olga Maria on June 21, 2010, 12:24:18 AM
Can someone decipher what's writen in this letter?
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/th_frommf.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/frommf.jpg)
I find this labeled as Dagmar's letter but to whom...not mentioned.
...and her spectacular drawings:
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/th_d7dc945c.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/d7dc945c.jpg)  (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/th_1.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/1.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on June 21, 2010, 01:47:07 AM
Can someone decipher what's writen in this letter?
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/th_frommf.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/gowns%20MARIA%20FEODOROVNA/frommf.jpg)



The text is half-Russian, half-French.

The Russian is:

"My sweet dear Nicky! Hope you'll be glad with this painting as if it's your old friend..."

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 21, 2010, 11:52:07 AM
Did Minny painted the lady on the letter ? She is quite good.  ;)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 21, 2010, 02:37:16 PM
Well, Marie Feodorovna was a good painter, there are some paintings made by her that are very good.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 21, 2010, 03:28:11 PM
You can check two paintings made by Marie Feodorovna on the reply number 57 of the thread of MF's portraits and paintings...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 23, 2010, 02:18:22 PM
About the brooch of reply #8, I found it in other place and the caption that it had was the next:
Brooch in the form of royal crown with the portraits of Emperor Alexander III and Empress Maria Feodorovna, born Princess of Denmark Dagmar. Gift of Queen Louise, the wife of Frederick VIII on the occasion of the coronation of Alexander III. 1883. Company Bolin family. Gold, silver, diamonds
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 23, 2010, 03:57:58 PM
I think the Bolin company is in Sweden !
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: grandduchessella on June 23, 2010, 08:55:32 PM
They are but they were in Russia at their peak:

"Wilhelm Bolin, like his father, kept his Swedish citizenship. In 1904 he purchased a property in the south of Sweden which he visited each summer together with his family. Showing foresight, he opened a branch office in Bad Homburg in Germany in 1912 - a spa visited by the Tsar and his family. At the outbreak of World War I a great deal of stock remained in Germany. Taking advantage of his Swedish nationality, Wilhelm Bolin, whose Russian belongings and assets were confiscated by the Bolsheviks, transferred his German stock to Stockholm and opened a shop there in 1916. The firm exists today as Jewelers and Silversmiths to HM King Carl XVI Gustav.

It is deeply regrettable that none of the archives of the Bolin firm have, as yet, been found. A number of invoices from Bolin to the Imperial Court have been discovered in the Imperial Archives in St. Petersburg. There are certainly many more and research has been initiated to locate both them and Bolin's own records."
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Vecchiolarry on June 23, 2010, 11:06:27 PM
Hi,

And Queen Louise was a Swedish princess, so she would certainly like to honour her former countryman's business...
I find it very nice to think that Louise would send a kind gift to Dagmar.  We always hear that the Danish family didn't always react warmly to Louise, but here we have a lovely gesture between the two....

Larry
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 24, 2010, 10:00:48 AM
I think Bolin would also had create something for Marie Paulovna the younger, a Russian Grand Duchess who married into Sweden. It is shrewd that Bolin kept his Swedish nationality, otherwise his firm would suffer the same fate as Faberage.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 24, 2010, 02:11:36 PM
Interesting information about Bolin, certainly I didn't know anything about that.
About the other drawings (the tree and the other) I think she did also them, I think that Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna inherited of her the talent of being a good drawer... her watercolors are lovely
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 24, 2010, 02:33:58 PM
Yes. Olga seemed to be only one to have that talent.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 24, 2010, 03:14:11 PM
Found those as Marie's... ? ? ? ?
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/VictorianLadies/MFThings.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 24, 2010, 04:09:27 PM
To be worn in the opera...Very glam indeed !
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 25, 2010, 02:43:38 PM
Maria
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalFamilies/MariaCoin.jpg)
And with family
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalFamilies/MariaCoin2.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: toscany on June 25, 2010, 02:49:10 PM
Maria


Great Coins!  Do you own them?  Thank you for sharing them here...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on June 25, 2010, 03:13:39 PM
 Re Reply # 31:  Actually a commemorative medal/medallion, as opposed to an offical government-issued "coin of the realm" per se, as it bears no monetary exchange value.   Regards,  AP.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 25, 2010, 04:53:06 PM
Except collectability of course.  ;)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on June 25, 2010, 05:10:40 PM
Absolutely!   Medals/medallions can be splendid miniature works of art in their own right.  Regards,   AP.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Countess Adrienn Bellér on June 26, 2010, 03:17:55 AM
Can someone help me, where can I fin d this pic in a clearer version?Clearer and bigger:STry to made it with photoshop but it's terrible:S

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Niki2.jpg
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 26, 2010, 03:05:57 PM
This photo is in many books !
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 27, 2010, 01:51:18 AM
Re Reply # 31:  Actually a commemorative medal/medallion, as opposed to an offical government-issued "coin of the realm" per se, as it bears no monetary exchange value.   Regards,  AP.

I would just like to ass that according to my information these meddals were made to commemorate the miraculous survival of the Imperial family after 1888 Borki train disaster.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on June 27, 2010, 06:25:33 AM
This photo is in many books !

And how this incredible reply helps Countess Adrienn Bellér ? ...If you know WHAT book exactly, mention it, but "This photo is in many books !" doesn't add any appreciated info to the poster who asked for the picture. If you don't know and are not going to post the bigger version - better keep silence.





Can someone help me, where can I fin d this pic in a clearer version?Clearer and bigger:STry to made it with photoshop but it's terrible:S

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Niki2.jpg

Here it is:

(http://www.picatom.com/1i/Tsesarevna%20Maria%20Fedorovna_sonGeorgiy_1872-1-th.JPG) (http://www.picatom.com/1i/Tsesarevna%20Maria%20Fedorovna_sonGeorgiy_1872-1.html)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 28, 2010, 11:00:48 AM
I have one with Alix in the same postion with Eddy, so is one of Lovisa with Christian...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 28, 2010, 11:01:33 AM
and Marie of Denmark with Aage. It was a common mother- child pose.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 29, 2010, 11:03:45 AM
I don't think so. Alix pose was the best selling of the cdvs in Britian and aboard. I think the others copy it (no doubt they did it in private before).
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 29, 2010, 11:04:36 AM
I ve seen pictures of common people posing like that. Maybe Alix did that pose popular but there s no doubt it was a common a popular pose back in those years.,
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 29, 2010, 03:16:18 PM
It could be a pose that Alix made popular. The huge success of that particular card may contribute to that. You don't see QV playing with her children so intimately.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 29, 2010, 04:10:40 PM
handtinted image of Marie. 1883

(http://i47.tinypic.com/244un9d.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 30, 2010, 12:47:30 PM
Was the card sold in Russia ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 01, 2010, 05:26:07 PM
For commemorate MF's death
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalFamilies/MaFe.gif)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalFamilies/MaFe2.gif)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 02, 2010, 07:21:33 AM
Eric, i supppose so since the image was found in a russian webpage.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Rani on July 03, 2010, 04:57:17 PM
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad313/Isana1988/4HSH4_AM0966-208-2.jpg)

With lots of family members
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on July 04, 2010, 12:49:38 AM
Queen Alexandra & Empress Marie on the balcony at Hvidoere

(http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/19207/2646474190102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2646474190102753164FQdCKW)

1916 - with her granddaughter Irene

(http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/44745/2365928110102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2365928110102753164GVYgTR)



Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on July 04, 2010, 02:06:41 AM
one more...a  large version of this portrait taken in 1899

(http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/45446/2445959770102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2445959770102753164xWKdqk)

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 04, 2010, 08:17:41 AM
Wiii! new picturees! thank you!

BTW: Irene was Marie GREAT grandaughter ;-)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 04, 2010, 01:59:18 PM
Was that an imperial emblem that Minny wore in her little brooch ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Speedycat on July 06, 2010, 09:58:11 AM
Wiii! new picturees! thank you!

BTW: Irene was Marie GREAT grandaughter ;-)

Wasn't Irene (Irina) Xenia's daughter?  Thereby Marie's grand-daughter?  Are we speaking of a different Irene?  Was Irina Alexandrovna's daughter named Irene also? 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Justine on July 06, 2010, 10:14:42 AM
yes, Irina Alexandrovna's daughter was also Irene.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 06, 2010, 10:21:08 AM
Yup and she was born in 1915, so this picture is of Maria and her great grand daughter ;-)

BTW  that picture is bad labeled. It was taken in 1915 since Irene was born in march 1915 and she looks still like a little baby in that pic.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 06, 2010, 12:34:22 PM
Did Dagmar bonded with this Irina ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 06, 2010, 02:11:32 PM
This is by far the largest  version if ve found of this picture

(http://i46.tinypic.com/jqq548.jpg)

XL

http://i46.tinypic.com/jqq548.jpg
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 06, 2010, 02:49:18 PM
Was this taken in Spala (Poland) ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on July 06, 2010, 05:51:33 PM
This is by far the largest  version if ve found of this picture


http://i46.tinypic.com/jqq548.jpg

a lovely quality image. Thank you for sharing it  According to my information this was taken not long before Alexander III death in late August 1894 at Bielovezh and the people in it are:

sitting on the ground left to right: Grand duke george, nicholas II, pirnce Nicholas of Greece, Grand duchess Olga, Grand Duke Michael.  Alexander II is seated behind Grand Duchess Olga and Empress Marie is sitting next to Alexander

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 06, 2010, 05:57:08 PM
Thanks for the info. Yes Miechen was not there...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: violetta on July 07, 2010, 08:37:09 AM
pictures of mariya feodorvna in spala. greek queen olga is also there. the picture was taken in approx. 1890

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/mariya-feodorona-spala-1.jpg)

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/mariya-feodorona-spala-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 07, 2010, 08:48:23 AM
i posted those pictures without watermark (and bigger )in the other topic of  Maria. I had no idea that Olga of greece was there!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 07, 2010, 11:41:27 AM
Queen Olga was not only close to Dagmar, but also her sister Thyra as well.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: royal_netherlands on July 07, 2010, 04:35:42 PM
And don't forget Alexandra either!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: violetta on July 07, 2010, 04:55:31 PM
i think mext to mariya feodorovna there is her sister thyra and next to thyra is olga of greece
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 08, 2010, 09:06:40 AM
Queen Olga is close to Thyra because she was easy to get along with, Dagmar because she was close to her homeland (Russia). I think Alexandra was closer to her brother George I than to his wife (just by comparison only).  ;)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on July 09, 2010, 07:42:26 AM
i think mext to mariya feodorovna there is her sister thyra and next to thyra is olga of greece

I don't want to be rude but are you sure, violetta?
I have much bigger version of that picture and honestly I can't see Thyra there or Olga of Greece neither.

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 09, 2010, 07:59:43 AM
I cant see Thyra either.

Here s the large and unmarked version i posted

http://i43.tinypic.com/358o1ad.jpg

and here s the enlargament of the ladies

(http://i31.tinypic.com/2rp4qro.jpg)

No Thyra whatsoever.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 09, 2010, 10:29:23 AM
Thyra wasn't there. I doubt Thyra even visited Finland or Poland !
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on July 10, 2010, 10:09:21 PM


and another one of Alexandra and Dagmar

(http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/46114/2178513760102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2178513760102753164TAmoDz)



Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 11, 2010, 07:35:22 AM
An xl version of this image

(http://i27.tinypic.com/dffz1h.jpg)

XL

http://i27.tinypic.com/dffz1h.jpg
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 11, 2010, 12:33:27 PM
That was on the Polar Star ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on July 11, 2010, 05:05:15 PM
An xl version of this image


XL

http://i27.tinypic.com/dffz1h.jpg

An excellent image. Thank you very much for sharing it. I don't recall seeing this one before. It looks like it was taken in the late 1880s?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Douglas on July 11, 2010, 09:47:15 PM
That was on the Polar Star ?

That photo is not on the Polar Star.  It appears to be one of the paddle yachts....possibly the yacht  "Power".
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on July 11, 2010, 11:00:13 PM
An xl version of this image


XL

http://i27.tinypic.com/dffz1h.jpg

An excellent image. Thank you very much for sharing it. I don't recall seeing this one before. It looks like it was taken in the late 1880s?

It's the time of Waldemar's marriage to Marie Orleans, 1885 or 1886 year.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 12, 2010, 09:50:36 AM
Who owns "Power" ? A Danish or Russian ship ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on July 12, 2010, 11:45:49 PM
That was on the Polar Star ?

That photo is not on the Polar Star.  It appears to be one of the paddle yachts....possibly the yacht  "Power".

Do you mean "Derzhava", yacht of Alexander III ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on July 14, 2010, 08:35:35 AM
a nice big version of this photo of Dagmar taken in 1866

(http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/41865/2044802350102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2044802350102753164hlPmVl)

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 14, 2010, 08:59:11 AM
its bigger? cause it seems to have the same  or even  lower size than this one from the GARF

http://i27.tinypic.com/ngq814.jpg

Better quality tho, i must say

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on July 14, 2010, 09:04:53 AM
its bigger? cause it seems to have the same  or even  lower size than this one from the GARF

Better quality tho, i must say



Oh.....I suppose I should have said I hoped this one would at least print better, and it doesn't come from the GARF site...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 14, 2010, 09:09:51 AM
Obviously it doesnt come from the GARF but from a book and the quality is excellent, thanks but its smaller than the one from the GARF,. Pity =/
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on July 14, 2010, 09:33:53 AM
Obviously it doesnt come from the GARF but from a book and the quality is excellent, thanks but its smaller than the one from the GARF,. Pity =/

oh well, I'm not an expert with these things.

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 14, 2010, 09:34:58 AM
Dont worry. I was expecting to see a bigger version of that one with that awesome Quality...=(
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 14, 2010, 02:23:17 PM
A lovely dress :-)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/DressAngeli.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 14, 2010, 03:06:52 PM
are you saying its the same dress? cause it isnt.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on July 14, 2010, 07:22:43 PM
Dont worry. I was expecting to see a bigger version of that one with that awesome Quality...=(

The original image was postcard sized. When you click through to the webshots image you'll see it at 3 times the size which will mean it should print at the same quality as the original.

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 14, 2010, 07:51:46 PM
No, definitively isn't the same dress. I found it as I posted it but I was wondering if it really belonged her (was the original)  or a simple copy... Does anybody know?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on July 14, 2010, 09:00:54 PM
No, definitively isn't the same dress. I found it as I posted it but I was wondering if it really belonged her (was the original)  or a simple copy... Does anybody know?

Yes it does belong to her. I've seen it on other threads and forums about MF.  There are quite a lot of MF dresses still in existance, enough to do an exhibition if they wanted to.

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olga Maria on July 15, 2010, 12:37:24 AM
As I say always Kathy, thank you very, very much for that photo and the information about the dress, too!

A lovely dress :-)
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/DressAngeli.jpg
Thank you very, very much for this, Mrs. Plyuschenko!!! : D The dress looks very pretty; I love it!
At first glance, I thought it was really the dress she wore on that beautiful portrait. But upon scrutinizing more, it isn't (the dress on the portrait has less lace-works (?) on the skirt, while on the sleeves, there are more lace-works ).
 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 15, 2010, 03:28:58 PM
Thanks for the confirmation Kathy! I wonder if that dress was the one she used while she posed for the portrait or had one that was totally like in the painting? Or perhaps Angeli changed it a bit
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on July 20, 2010, 06:18:34 AM


(http://www.picatom.com/1i/Tsesarevna%20Maria%20Fedorovna_sonGeorgiy_1872-1-th.JPG) (http://www.picatom.com/1i/Tsesarevna%20Maria%20Fedorovna_sonGeorgiy_1872-1.html)

One more from the same session:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/TsesarevnaMariaFedorovna_sonNichola.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: kmerov on July 20, 2010, 04:43:18 PM
MF with sister Alix walking in the streets of Copenhagen with suite
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/MFAlixKBH.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 20, 2010, 05:21:09 PM
Who was the man behind Alix ? Prince Hans ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: kmerov on July 20, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
No, it's Prince George Shervashidze, a member of MF's suite.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 21, 2010, 07:50:04 AM
Thanks...I am trying to get the year of the photo.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: kmerov on July 21, 2010, 05:37:22 PM
Thanks...I am trying to get the year of the photo.

You are welcome, I don't have the year, so it's anybodies guess.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: kmerov on July 21, 2010, 05:43:13 PM
MF and Queen Lovisa from a state visit by Frederik VIII and Lovisa.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/th_MFstatevisitFrederikVIII.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/MFstatevisitFrederikVIII.jpg)

Nicky, MF, Alix and Lovisa and other members of the Imperial and Royal families of Russia and Denmark.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/1909D.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 21, 2010, 10:04:17 PM
Would love to see the photo below in bigger form. I might see more royals there...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: kmerov on July 22, 2010, 04:20:29 PM
A little bigger. I think one of Frederik VIII's daughters is between MF and Alix.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/th_1909D.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/1909D.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 22, 2010, 05:34:10 PM
Yes I think so.  ;)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: AnastasiaNikolaevna on July 27, 2010, 10:00:21 AM
Hi everyone. I can't seem to see pictures of Marie after 1918, or right before she died. Does anyone have these to post? Thanks!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: kmerov on July 28, 2010, 07:38:53 PM
There are tons of pictures of Marie Feodorovna in exile, just go thru the threads on this board dedicated to her and I'm sure you will find them.
But here a two pictures.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/olddagm.jpg)

MF with Queen Olga of Greece at Hvidøre.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/dgolgag.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: AnastasiaNikolaevna on July 28, 2010, 07:52:09 PM
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: royal_netherlands on July 31, 2010, 07:57:01 AM
If you think about it and you start to analyse the photograph of Maria Feodorovna with Lovisa and her brother Frederick VIII in it, you could see the symbolic behind the strained relation between Maria and her sister-inlaw Lovisa. The both sit in the corner of the tribune (far apart) both looking in a other direction (Lovisa looking to the right and MF looking to the left). Frederick VIII looks at his wife - but stands closer to his sister - he is really caught in the middle. Funny it so typically shows the family-relation. Thank you for the great pictures kmerov!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 01, 2010, 10:14:54 PM
You noticed the body language, in which royals now being observed for inner feelings. I think Charles & Diana was the first royal to be publically analazed by their body language.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on August 03, 2010, 03:55:34 AM
1896 Empress Marie & Xenia fishing at Gatchina


(http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/26940/2383133090102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2383133090102753164CjUQtg)


Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 03, 2010, 09:06:46 AM
Is that her dog or Xenia's
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Alyosha_Love on August 03, 2010, 02:54:14 PM
This will seem an incredibly random topic/thought, but I'm working on a Romanov novel project and it has come up in my outline, so I thought I'd ask.
I'm wondering if Maria Feodorovna ever learned to ride horseback - either any sources/books anything that anyone has read or simply your opinions on whether and what she would have learned :) Thanks!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 04, 2010, 12:00:35 AM
Yes Minny learned to ride and rode quite well although not into it as much as her sister Alix did. There are many photos of her on a horse or in riding gear.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: ashdean on August 04, 2010, 12:53:53 PM

MF with Queen Olga of Greece at Hvidøre.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/dgolgag.jpg)
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I wonder if this picture was from the visit where a very small Prince Philip accompanied his grandmother.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 04, 2010, 01:50:09 PM
If so then Philip should have a photo too. However never saw one with them both.  :)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: ashdean on August 04, 2010, 02:35:00 PM
If so then Philip should have a photo too. However never saw one with them both.  :)
In her memoirs Olga Alexandrovna vividly remembered her aunts visit with Prince Philip in tow.So pic or not it defintely took place!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 09, 2010, 09:32:34 AM
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1996/sudbaimpb.jpg) (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/sudbaimpb.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 09, 2010, 09:37:35 AM
A new book ? This is a rare picture. However she is shown here wearing her favouite single strand pearl choker with large drop pearl. I wonder if she took it out with her.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Alexander1917 on August 09, 2010, 01:32:52 PM
A new book ? This is a rare picture. However she is shown here wearing her favouite single strand pearl choker with large drop pearl. I wonder if she took it out with her.

in the book kejserinde dagmar, ther are listed the jewels which HIM took out of russia, and where later opend in precens of grand duchess xenia. under item 6 there is mentioned a necklace of 144 pearls (small) with large pearl drop - it was sold to lord lascelles - so may this is the above mentioned necklace....

she take some more "day-wear" jewels with her to kiev, but also the large pearl choker with sapphire which were later sold to QM, so it is possible, that she take this with her.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 09, 2010, 11:24:14 PM
That choker was shown in Leslie Fields book and a picture of Princess Anne wearing it. The necklace sold to Lord Lascelles wasnot shown again. It seems to be one of her favourite necklace.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: AGRBear on August 12, 2010, 08:05:29 PM
What was Dowager Marie Feodorovna's reaction the the terrible tragedy at Khodinsky Field during Nicholas II's coronation celebration?

Did she encourage the Royal couple to attend the balls and other celebrations as the carts carried away the dead and wounded?

AGRBear
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 13, 2010, 01:38:54 AM
She did not attend that ball. She spent time visiting hospitals. Her actions were noticed.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on August 13, 2010, 02:13:31 AM
She did not attend that ball. She spent time visiting hospitals. Her actions were noticed.

You are correct about Marie at this event. N&A also did not want to attend but were persuaded by their officals and relatives that the French would be mortally offended if they did not attend. Poltically it was the first time the French alliance was to be celebrated in Russia and put Nicholas in a tricky situation which did not work out well.

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 13, 2010, 11:23:38 AM
I think Minny would have offered contrary advice. Sandro and others were against it, so not all relatives (mainly the Uncles (Serge, Alexis & Vladimir))were for it.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 15, 2010, 12:05:25 AM
Woohoo!!

A new (or at least not so repeated) image of Marie!

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1930/9018186.jpg) (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/9018186.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on August 15, 2010, 12:46:04 AM
THis pic is new for me. It's very sweet and expressive.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: kmerov on August 15, 2010, 05:16:33 PM
MF, Alix and Prince Hans of Glücksburg at Hvidøre in 1908.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/MFAlixHansHvidre.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on August 15, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
What a wonderful picture Kmerov. It's a new one for me. Thanks for sharing it. I really appreciate these good ones without watermarks :)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 15, 2010, 11:39:21 PM
Me too, Without watermarks makes it easy to appreciate thec whole picture. Prince Has was actually Alix & Minny's uncle.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 24, 2010, 08:12:53 AM
Maria and Kids. Circa 1880

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5259/6035825.jpg) (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/6035825.jpg/)

 

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on August 24, 2010, 10:11:31 AM
Finally bigger version of that wonderful one! could I have it without watermark via PM, please, please??...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Veronica on August 24, 2010, 06:43:07 PM
Does someone have a bigger version of this that could share? PLEASE

(http://a.imageshack.us/img823/8774/copiadedagmarnixaf72b1l.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on August 24, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
That's a nice image of Marie. I really do wish I'd seen a bigger version....
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on August 27, 2010, 12:44:20 PM
Ok, I checked previous topics and I haven't found this one, so I hope it's new....

MF with her children (from well known session, yeeees;-))
(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/787/miszazw034a02932d29094x.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on August 27, 2010, 01:28:50 PM
MF during the celebrations of the bicentenary of the foundation of St Petersburg, may 1903.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i295/_mbp_/tr_05.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 28, 2010, 08:39:21 AM
She looked like an empress in that picture.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: TroubleTwin2 on August 28, 2010, 12:06:35 PM
In which one?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 28, 2010, 12:42:33 PM
1903 in St. Petersburg.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 06, 2010, 08:03:12 AM
heavily retouched  MF

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5004/s640x4801j.jpg) (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/s640x4801j.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 08, 2010, 05:56:21 PM
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4420/szaszkamaria2we.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 10, 2010, 06:39:38 AM
I looove this picture - MF and Aleksander
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2111/saszkamaria1.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 10, 2010, 10:35:07 AM
Where do these pictures come from ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 10, 2010, 01:33:13 PM
I forgot from where exactly, I didn't save the link. It was some site with Russian art and antiques.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 10, 2010, 04:39:29 PM
MF with ...?
 I recognize only her daughter Xenia on the left .
(http://pics.livejournal.com/fedor_ragin/pic/000csdpz/s640x480.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: amartin71718 on September 10, 2010, 05:37:59 PM
It looks like Olga A. is right behind MF wearing a white dress.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 10, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Indeed!
You're right, Marty!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on September 10, 2010, 11:39:26 PM
Yes. The woman in white dress IS Olga Alexandrovna.

RealAnastasia
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 11, 2010, 02:25:16 PM
I wonder when this was taken ? Denmark ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on September 13, 2010, 01:23:06 AM
Marie with her mother and sister

(http://i56.tinypic.com/mlkyok.jpg)



Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: THERRY on September 13, 2010, 02:42:33 AM
Are you sure she is Dagmar ? For me she look more like Alexandra
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on September 13, 2010, 03:04:05 AM
Are you sure she is Dagmar ? For me she look more like Alexandra

Hmm. You could be right. It migh be Thyra and Alexandra and their mother. It wouldn't be the first time a picture was mis-labelled.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on September 13, 2010, 05:41:48 AM
Marie with her mother and sister



Those are Alexandra and Thyra.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 13, 2010, 09:46:07 AM
No. It was Minny & Alix wit their mother. I got the three with their mother in another photo of the same session.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 13, 2010, 07:27:15 PM
it  looks like Maria Fyodorovna to me.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on September 13, 2010, 11:13:56 PM
it  looks like Maria Fyodorovna to me.

Probably the angle but she looks like Thyra to me.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 14, 2010, 05:13:40 AM
it  looks like Maria Fyodorovna to me.

Probably the angle but she looks like Thyra to me.

definitely agree with Svetabel. Look  at her nose and lips.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 14, 2010, 05:18:58 AM
Posted also to Nicholas´ thread.

Imperial couple with Nicky and Georgy

(http://nd04.jxs.cz/887/389/602434804e_69266347_u.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 14, 2010, 06:53:11 AM
its way too small to check her lips and nose. I f there was a bigger version or even better...another from the photoshot (im sure i ve seen one over here, but i cant remember where. I hope Kmerov help us!)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 14, 2010, 07:06:28 AM
Winner!!!...its Maria Fyodorovna


(Thanks Kmerov!)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20IX%20and%20Louise/louisnedthydagali.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 14, 2010, 09:42:44 AM
I won by default since I knew the photo and Thyra wore a different dress.  ;D
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 14, 2010, 09:44:09 AM
i knew i saw that another from that session somewhere. I always can count with Kmerov and his wonderful resource of images!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 14, 2010, 01:13:35 PM
Yes. He is a bit more resourceful than Svetabel. It proves that we can all make mistakes and that is ok. I for one is still learing every day.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on September 14, 2010, 11:16:03 PM
Yes. He is a bit more resourceful than Svetabel. It proves that we can all make mistakes and that is ok. I for one is still learing every day.

You can't know HOW resourceful I am. Yes, we all make mistakes but you are the one here who boast with your mistakes - do you think it's cool? And had you learned every day you'd never repeat you mistakes from thread to thread. But you repeat.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 15, 2010, 09:12:10 AM
I do NOT boast my mistakes but admits them rather than try to argue my way out of it. It is the admitting than to accuse others that is real cool ! I am sorry that you are upset about my comments on your resourcefulness, but that photo was published before. I think I know since I like Thyra a lot and study her photos more. She and Dagmar do look alike in some photos.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 15, 2010, 03:29:41 PM
On the first picture - MF with officer Rogozhyn, Kiev 1916.
(http://regiment.ru/Lib/A/5/39.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 15, 2010, 03:59:21 PM
Nice images. Was it from a book ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on September 15, 2010, 10:34:25 PM
I do NOT boast my mistakes but admits them rather than try to argue my way out of it. It is the admitting than to accuse others that is real cool ! I am sorry that you are upset about my comments on your resourcefulness, but that photo was published before.

I didn't accuse you here. Nothing is changed when you admits your mistakes as you keep on repeating them constantly.Your way of free pronounce of Royal nicknames is the best example.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 16, 2010, 01:05:36 AM
Nice images. Was it from a book ?

It seems it is. I found it on some page about imperial regiments.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 16, 2010, 03:38:58 AM
Maria Feodorovna with officers of her guard regiment (that tall man behind her, on the right - it's Felix Yusupov)

(http://regiment.ru/reg/I/B/1/2.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 16, 2010, 06:56:21 AM
Maria F and Ksenia Alexandrovna visiting wonded soldiers at the hospital


(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/25/fgsdgsdgsdg.jpg) (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/fgsdgsdgsdg.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 16, 2010, 08:05:58 AM
You mean the father of the famous Felix Yusspov right ?

Is the hospital in Crimea or Moscow ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 16, 2010, 08:10:40 AM
Is that Felix Yussupov Sr?. I had no idea...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 16, 2010, 08:15:19 AM
I think so. The son never served in the army.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 16, 2010, 08:17:52 AM
Eric...moustaches and that kind of haircut in men was VERY common. To me it looks way to young for being Felix Yusupov Sr.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on September 16, 2010, 11:20:51 PM
I don't think that Felix Yussupov Sr. would be inmated in this kind of hospital, and placed in this kind of bed...The face is doesn't seems known to me. As Katenka_Fyodorvna wrote, these kind of moustaches were very common back then. Even my relatives would wear them at the time. I have pics of them in which they looks more similar to this poor wnded inmated than to Felix Yussupov Sr.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 17, 2010, 01:59:02 AM
You mean the father of the famous Felix Yusspov right ?

Yes,that's him. He served in a guard regiment.



Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 17, 2010, 07:03:13 AM
Doesnt the man in bed looks too young for being Felix Sr?. Sadly i didnt find any info about that picture where i found it.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 17, 2010, 07:17:33 AM
Doesnt the man in bed looks too young for being Felix Sr?. Sadly i didnt find any info about that picture where i found it.

It seems we are talking about two diffrent pictures.;-)

I'm only saying that the man who's standing behind MF is Felix Yusupov Senior (in the picture which I posted)

I have no idea who's that man in the bed in the picture posted by you,Katenka, but it's rather obvious it's not Yusupov.
Prince Yusupov Sumarokov Elston in the hospital for wounded soldiers, and in the bed??..Nooooo, no way.XD
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 17, 2010, 07:27:25 AM
ahhh!! i thought you (and Eric i suposse) were talking about my picture.

Eric...you should use the "Quote" option to avoid misunderstoods like this one ;-D
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 17, 2010, 11:11:30 AM
Sorry...I never did master that technique.  :(

Yes I was talking about 2 different photos.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on September 17, 2010, 11:17:25 PM
Doesnt the man in bed looks too young for being Felix Sr?. Sadly i didnt find any info about that picture where i found it.

It seems we are talking about two diffrent pictures.;-)

I'm only saying that the man who's standing behind MF is Felix Yusupov Senior (in the picture which I posted)

I have no idea who's that man in the bed in the picture posted by you,Katenka, but it's rather obvious it's not Yusupov.
Prince Yusupov Sumarokov Elston in the hospital for wounded soldiers, and in the bed??..Nooooo, no way.XD

Yes. Now I understand. in the picture you've posted it's quite clear that the man behind MF is Felix Yussupov. I was speaking about the pic with the men lying in beds..

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 21, 2010, 02:15:07 PM
Maria with siblings Christian and Alexandra

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5225/minsibl.jpg) (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/minsibl.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 22, 2010, 02:37:29 AM
MF with GD Maria Pavlovna, GD Victoria Melita, granddaughters Olga and Tatiana - and nurses.

 (http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/ap/a/a157337.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 23, 2010, 10:44:04 AM
I do wonder do a clearer image exists ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Teddy on September 24, 2010, 04:56:28 AM
Where comes this image from?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 24, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
Where comes this image from?

From the page about Canadian nurses in Russia during the WWI.
The full description of that picture is: 'The Dowager Empress Maria Fedorovna, accompanied by Princesses Olga and Tatiana and Grand Duchesses Cyril and Maria Pavlowa, at the opening of the Anglo Russian Hospital at the Dmitri Palace.'
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 24, 2010, 09:46:47 AM
Where is the Dimitri Palace ? Was that the Serge Palace that Ella gave him ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 24, 2010, 02:20:36 PM
Where is the Dimitri Palace ? Was that the Serge Palace that Ella gave him ?

Yes, the same one. During the war the palace became the Anglo-Russian hospital and GD Dimitri had only an apartment there.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: ashanti01 on September 25, 2010, 12:23:18 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Maria%20F/hpqscan0011-1.jpg)
GD Xenia, Empress Marie, GD Olga and Princess Zenaida Yusupova 1905


full version

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Maria%20F/hpqscan0010-1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on September 25, 2010, 03:31:27 AM

GD Xenia, Empress Marie, GD Olga and Princess Zenaida Yusupova 1905

There are also Felix Yussupov Senior, GD Michael Aleksandrovich and Duke Peter of Oldenburg (Olga's husband).

Great picture, new for me. Thanks, ashanti!

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Teddy on September 25, 2010, 04:20:50 AM
Where did you find this rare picture Ashanti?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 25, 2010, 02:44:59 PM
Yes. It is a rare image. Poor Olga A looked bored stiff in the photo.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: ashanti01 on September 25, 2010, 07:30:32 PM
Where did you find this rare picture Ashanti?

"Les Princes Youssoupoff" by Jacques Ferrand. I believe it's also in "Romanoff: Un album de famille". Both are wonderful books to add to your collection, if you can find them.  : (
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 26, 2010, 05:51:44 PM
Thanks ! I will dig them out. Jacques Ferrand was a real good man and generous with his information. He sent me some photo to use in my book when I wrote for help. A real gentleman. He has since passed away to the sorrow of those who knew him.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Teddy on September 27, 2010, 04:58:27 AM
A reprint of some of his books would be very nice.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 27, 2010, 11:05:34 AM
That would be interesting who was the heir to the copyrights of these books.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Teddy on September 27, 2010, 12:59:02 PM
I think personally his widom.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 27, 2010, 01:02:12 PM
Widom ? Wisdom or Widow ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 27, 2010, 01:11:00 PM
Eric, if you read the question you made and then Teddy s answer, you can easily deduce he s talking about his WIDOW.

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Teddy on September 27, 2010, 02:41:34 PM
Sorry for the spelling. I type to fast! Thank you for clearing me out Katenka. Mistakes are easily made, and Eric_Lowe knows everything making mistakes, don't you Eric?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 27, 2010, 05:02:11 PM
I know...Just pulling your leg in good humor and not vicious in intend. Anyway who knows if his widow would reprint the book ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 29, 2010, 11:47:47 AM
This is one of my favorite images of Maria.

(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4535/varh.jpg) (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/varh.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 29, 2010, 11:50:14 AM
Was she looking at the Polar Star ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on October 01, 2010, 06:25:03 AM
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2497/garf6.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: ashdean on October 01, 2010, 08:51:19 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Maria%20F/hpqscan0011-1.jpg)
GD Xenia, Empress Marie, GD Olga and Princess Zenaida Yusupova 1905


full version

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Maria%20F/hpqscan0010-1-1.jpg)
The lady next to Zenaida (with the plume in her toque) is Madame Serebriakova a leading St Petersburg socialite/hostess. In exile she morgantically married  Duke Peter of Oldenburg shortly before his death.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 01, 2010, 01:03:27 PM
I wonder which room was Minny in ? Amailenborg ? Gatchina ? Anitchkov or Kiev ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on October 01, 2010, 03:36:08 PM
That's Anichkov Palace.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 03, 2010, 03:03:18 PM
Thanks. The rooms looked grander than Alicky's in Alexander Palace.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on October 04, 2010, 05:09:24 AM
I agree.:-)


Maria Feodorovna with her grandson Andrei Aleksandrovich
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3518/kseniamfauto.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on October 05, 2010, 10:25:13 PM
Empress Marie with GD Olga

(http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/237/2494782640102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2494782640102753164waYgBn)

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on October 07, 2010, 06:51:53 AM

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9831/mf1v.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 07, 2010, 03:45:53 PM
Picnic in Abbas tumman. There s Maria F with Olga, and at the right Gd Georgiy Alexandrovich. I cant recognize the rest of the people tho


(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/380/imagead6a4c21ec19.jpg) (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/imagead6a4c21ec19.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on October 07, 2010, 04:08:36 PM
There is also Misha, he is sitting/lying (in the centre), I can recognize him everywhere XD
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 07, 2010, 05:05:13 PM
Hard to tell...too small. The lady with the white hat could be Queen Olga of Greece.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on October 10, 2010, 12:00:53 PM
With Sandro and Ksenia
(http://statearchive.ru/assets/galleries/436/rmf-085.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on October 10, 2010, 12:26:10 PM
With Sandro and Ksenia


Actually he looks like Georgiy Mikhailovitch, Sandro's brother. I am not sure though.

It's interesting that none who post these pictures doesn't refer to the source, site of the Russian State Archive.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 10, 2010, 12:33:41 PM
Yes, its Georgiy,  not Sandro

Maybe no one  refers the source since the link has been posted a thousand of times in this very same forum in different topics. No one is hidding where those pictures were found and if someone ask, always the link to the albumns is posted.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 15, 2010, 09:20:19 AM
Circa 1910

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3882/zoom3ms1.jpg) (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/zoom3ms1.jpg/)

(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/264/zoom3ms.jpg) (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/zoom3ms.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: violetta on October 16, 2010, 03:53:48 PM
Katenka, do you know where this picture was taken? and on what occasion?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 16, 2010, 04:11:28 PM
No idea. I just now that those pictures belong to the personal travel albumn of Maria.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 19, 2010, 06:05:54 PM
Maybe in Kiev ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on October 20, 2010, 01:31:11 AM
Maybe in Kiev ?

In Kiev.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on October 20, 2010, 12:22:15 PM
Are there any pictures of Marie Feodrovna with her granddaughters, OTMA? I'd like to see some, I can't recall any, though I know there must be at least some.  :)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 20, 2010, 12:33:00 PM
Go check this topic

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=3197.0

Maybe there you will find a few ;-D
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: mishaxenia on October 20, 2010, 03:22:59 PM
Marie with her mother and sister

(http://i56.tinypic.com/mlkyok.jpg)

(http://i54.tinypic.com/28t7vrs.jpg)


you know where it was taken the photo of Maria  Feodorovna  with the hat ??  The photo is dated 1896, I thought in the Crimea because you see the sea , but I read in the forum that Maria did not visit the Crimea for 22 years from 1895 to 1917. Thanks
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 20, 2010, 05:36:31 PM
i think it was taken in france. I remember i saw a picture of Olga and Mikhail taken in the same place and Olgasha told me it was taken in france. (if i recall well)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: mishaxenia on October 21, 2010, 03:11:47 AM
Thanks, looking at the picture you see mountains and the sea or lake , in "empress Marie discussion and pictures Part II reply 361 , there is a picture of Marie, it seems the same dress,1896 while fishing, perhaps taken the same day?  the photo above with Nicholas will be the same place?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 21, 2010, 05:33:15 AM
its from this same photoshoot

 

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6108/img048l.jpg) (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/img048l.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: mishaxenia on October 21, 2010, 06:26:54 AM
you're right, the same place. Perhaps in the hinterland of "Cote d'Azur".
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on October 21, 2010, 07:11:49 AM
you're right, the same place. Perhaps in the hinterland of "Cote d'Azur".

That's right, it was at Turbie in southeastern France, where in 1896 Empress Maria with her youngest children visited her elder son Grand Duke Georgiy.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 22, 2010, 04:52:57 PM
Misha looked a bit grown up already. I wonder if he was close to Georgy ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 05, 2010, 03:49:17 PM
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/mariavelk.jpg)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/mariedag.jpg)
Still young, lovely and fresh XD
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 06, 2010, 08:22:01 AM
Marie
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/dagmara.jpg)
With family
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/rusia.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 06, 2010, 10:32:42 AM
Circa 1910

 http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3882/zoom3ms1.jpg

 http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/264/zoom3ms.jpg

 

From the same sitting

(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/917/zoom3ms4.jpg) (http://img560.imageshack.us/i/zoom3ms4.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 06, 2010, 03:29:14 PM
She looked more like Greek Minny when she aged...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 12, 2010, 05:02:19 PM
I found this as Maria Fyodorovna in her casket. Could it be her?

(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9629/granger0126465preview.jpg) (http://img826.imageshack.us/i/granger0126465preview.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on November 12, 2010, 11:24:07 PM
I don't think it could be her. I've seen a pic of her inside her casket and was very different. The casket itself seems to be different...and the upper face of the dead person is not similar to Maria's one. It even seems a man's face...

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on November 13, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
I think it's her. I saw another one of her after her death, and for me it looked very similar.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Vecchiolarry on November 13, 2010, 06:56:52 PM
Hi,

Did Maria Feodorovna still have dark hair at 81??

It does look like her "Cossack" retainer though beside the coffin.  And, he would have stayed with her till the end;  he was very loyal...

Larry
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: violetta on November 13, 2010, 07:04:09 PM
Hi,

Did Maria Feodorovna still have dark hair at 81??

It does look like her "Cossack" retainer though beside the coffin.  And, he would have stayed with her till the end;  he was very loyal...

Larry



iT`s definitely "her" Cossack. As for the hair, it was dark in her pictures with Queen Alexandra in the first half of the 1920s. I don`t remember her have grey hair. Besides, I`ve seen that people`s faces change after death.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Alexander1917 on November 13, 2010, 07:40:21 PM
MF had very long dark hair and only with a very light gray or withe. look at the photos from the mid 1920's.
maybe it's an othe camera angle. it's hard to tell. the lining is bad to see, also the positions of hands etc.
in the other one, for me, she resemble her mother Queen Louise.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on November 13, 2010, 10:12:44 PM
It could be she...I want to pic a very clear picture of her after her death, inside her coffin, but- I don't know why- I can't...It should be nice you could make a comparison between the two photos.

I think the principal difficulty here is that the pic I know is sepia, and the one you posted above is black and white. Black and white pictures are sometimes clearer than sepia ones..

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Teddy on November 14, 2010, 03:49:26 AM
Sorry but that is certainly not MF. Thats a face of a young gentlemen. I have seen her post mortem photo and this is certainly not her. You can find her post mortem photo in a thread which is called: "post mortem pictures". Try the search options and search for "post mortem pictures" and then you will find the thread with a post mortem photo of the Empress Marie F.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 14, 2010, 04:49:36 AM
here is it by Kmerov

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Dagmar/mflitdeparade.jpg)

In this one it doesnt looks like Maria either.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Teddy on November 14, 2010, 05:32:07 AM
Katenka_Fyodorovna, believe me its the Empress Maria F. This photo appears in some of the books about her and here she resembles her mother the Queen Louise.

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 14, 2010, 05:47:24 AM
Yes i know its her but it doesnt look like Maria.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on November 14, 2010, 10:27:46 PM
Yes...This was the pic I was referring to. It looks like Maria, but of course, it's an old Maria, maybe you find her face with not so much ressemblance for you are not used to see her as a VERY old lady.

The first picture,  is not similar to this one, the expression of the dead young man (as Teddy had said, it seems to be a young man) is not the same than the one of MF. Just look at his eyes and those of Maria...The young boy also had a sad expression in her face, while Maria looks more stern than sad.

The coffin also seems to be different in both cases.

Maybe the angles in which the two pics were taken distorted the "young man's" expression and it's Maria after all...But I seriously doubt it.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on November 14, 2010, 10:38:41 PM
I've visited the www.granger.com  site from where the pic of "Maria Fyodorovna" in her coffin (the one who seems to be a youn dead man) is taken and I've found some mislabelled photos. THere's one from Maria Alexandrova (Alexander II's daughter), labelled as...OLGA CONSTANTINOVNA!!!! Its a good site, but beware . There are some little mislabelled images.... :(

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on November 14, 2010, 10:59:56 PM
I don't want to bother you anymore...but just see who the people of www.granger.com, labelled as Marie-Antoinette...


 http://www.granger.com/searchresults.asp?inline=true&image=0127286&wwwflag=1&imagepos=10

AAAARRRGHHH.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Justine on November 15, 2010, 12:33:45 AM
as for that site-I do wonder who colored that (http://www.granger.com/searchresults.asp?inline=true&image=0086810&wwwflag=1&imagepos=142)... I just love the label 'Photograph, early 20th century'.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on November 15, 2010, 04:12:42 AM
That looks to me like a work of our Olgasha....
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 15, 2010, 04:31:43 AM
i was thinking in Isabel`s work. She loves to add details in little mthings and it looks like something she did. I will ask her

RealAnastasia, the mislabeled images of Maria Alexandrovna as Olga Constantinova comes mislabeled from the Ullstein bild ;-D
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 15, 2010, 12:14:44 PM
Minny did enjoy taking photos and being taken photos as well. I guess the Russian archievs must have a lot of them taken by the Empress during her travels.  ;)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on November 15, 2010, 10:41:17 PM
i was thinking in Isabel`s work. She loves to add details in little mthings and it looks like something she did. I will ask her

RealAnastasia, the mislabeled images of Maria Alexandrovna as Olga Constantinova comes mislabeled from the Ullstein bild ;-D

Thanks for the info, Katenka! However, they must have checked the labelling of Ullstein Bild. ;D

As for the Colored Anastasia picture...yes I've also noticed it and was quite upset to see it there...Specially when they forbide people to use their images freely. It seems they wouldn't let you to take their pictures without mentioning them....sadly,they don't act the same way to the work of other people.  >:(

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 16, 2010, 09:15:47 AM
Which Anastasia picture ?  ???
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 16, 2010, 09:20:21 AM
(sighs) Read above posts

Going to mass with sister Alexandra. Also in the picture, Princess Victoria

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4160/10410836a.jpg) (http://img507.imageshack.us/i/10410836a.jpg/)

Another

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9443/10410915a.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/i/10410915a.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 16, 2010, 09:22:23 AM
Taken at the Sandringham Church ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Alexander1917 on November 17, 2010, 07:43:52 AM
Doesn't look like St Mary Magdalene for me
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: grandduchessella on November 17, 2010, 11:44:20 AM
(sighs) Read above posts

Going to mass with sister Alexandra. Also in the picture, Princess Victoria

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4160/10410836a.jpg) (http://img507.imageshack.us/i/10410836a.jpg/)

Another

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9443/10410915a.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/i/10410915a.jpg/)

 


The captions say:

Queen Alexandra (1844-1925) and her sister Empress Maria Feodorovna of Russia, formerly Princess Dagmar of Denmark (1847-1928), in an open carriage, leaving Victoria Station, Central London, at the time of the death of King Edward VII.


Queen Alexandra (1844-1925) and her sister Empress Maria Feodorovna of Russia, formerly Princess Dagmar of Denmark (1847-1928), leaving the Maundy Thursday distribution ceremony at Westminster Abbey, Central London, at which specially coined Maundy money is given to the deserving poor. The Dean of Westminster is in a white surplice just ahead of them.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 17, 2010, 01:27:30 PM
Thanks for the explaination. Would love to know where the Dowager Empress lived while she was in Sandringham ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Alexander1917 on November 18, 2010, 01:06:12 PM
Thanks for the explaination. Would love to know where the Dowager Empress lived while she was in Sandringham ?


I suppose there are some Guest Rooms in the "big haouse" upper floor.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 19, 2010, 12:15:31 PM
Maybe that was the reason for the tension between the sisters, Dagmar was not in a family home anymore, but A lodger of her sister...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on November 20, 2010, 01:37:25 AM
1883 engravings of Marie and Alexander at their coronation

(http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/45078/2729902480102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2729902480102753164vvbuUn)

(http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/46954/2645194660102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2645194660102753164tFSqjA)

(http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/44124/2358535280102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2358535280102753164IwZsdQ)

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 20, 2010, 03:22:10 PM
This is very weird and i thinki its a composite. It was on sale on ebay a few weeks ago


(http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/3985/a25497.jpg) (http://img816.imageshack.us/i/a25497.jpg/)
 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on November 20, 2010, 03:55:57 PM
Re Reply # 301:   IMO, it is decidedly a composite!  The UNADORNED head undoubtedly comes from another photo (oddly reminding me of a possibly seated pose?).  Again, IMO, it is unthinkable to have originally formally posed the (undiademed) Empress in Robes of State as depicted here! Also, is not the vertically-striped dress portion showing in folds, an "everyday"/society-type dress? Certainly not a Coronation dress!  Good eye!  Regards,   AP.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on November 20, 2010, 04:35:05 PM
In reference to my reply # 302 posted immediately above, I find that I had omitted several words in a phrase which should have read  "in what appear to be lavish ermine-tipped Robes of State."  I now correct it.   Regards,   AP.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 22, 2010, 08:18:33 AM
I don't think there was a photo of Marie wearing the crown as an empress.I think there is one of her as dowager empress though. It was used as the model for the big coronation portrait.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on December 10, 2010, 03:38:17 AM
(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/9079/u1656inp.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 10, 2010, 01:39:54 PM
I can see Alicky,Greek Minny (a Greek Prince behind her I think George later George II) with Minny and Xenia. The Tsar is at the back. Where & when was this taken ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: violetta on December 22, 2010, 12:49:46 PM

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/Dagmar-Alexandra_young.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 22, 2010, 01:26:41 PM
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1696/091110hall1.jpg) (http://img227.imageshack.us/i/091110hall1.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 22, 2010, 01:46:27 PM
A cdv based on a drawing ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 22, 2010, 01:48:54 PM
Yup
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 22, 2010, 01:51:39 PM
It is interesting that she took no photo on that special day.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Labuanbajo on January 11, 2011, 05:01:23 PM
from a new biography of Sergei Diaghilev by Sjeng Scheijen:

" The revealing nature of Nijinsky's outfit, which consisted of extremely tight tights and a short, belted tunic, caused offence in the imperial box. In the interval, Mariya Fyodorovna sent Grand Duke Sergey to Nijinsky 'to find out what costume Nijinsky would wear in the next act, because if it were the same one, she and the grand dukes would have to leave the theater'."

note: this excerpt refers to Grand Duke Sergei Mikhailovich, not Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on January 11, 2011, 05:30:36 PM
Interesting. Wonder what MF would have said about contemporary ballet. My impression is that it's like watching pyjamas-clad youngsters engaging in foreplay. Very exquisite, high-brow softcore pornography. Did Queen Victoria ever attend the ballet? If so, I'm very shocked!

note: this excerpt refers to Grand Duke Sergei Mikhailovich, not Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich!
Lol!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Robert_Hall on January 11, 2011, 06:48:28 PM
Interesting question, Feodor.  What I have found is that Arthur Sullivan [later with Gilbert] wrote a ballet in 1864. He was one of Victoria's favourite entertainers and she probably saw that. However, I doubt she went to Covent Garden, it   most likely came to her at Windsor. Hardly modern, but the Royal Ballet was not even founded until well after her death.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: QueenEna1887 on January 14, 2011, 02:00:47 AM
does anyone have any other portraits that were painted by the Empress. I've only seen the basic.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 14, 2011, 09:27:55 PM
Maria & Alexandra

(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3051/fdsr3r5.jpg) (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/fdsr3r5.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on January 15, 2011, 02:57:56 AM
I like this one - MF in Hvidore
(http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/9789/0491b1a65c721xl.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on January 15, 2011, 10:50:18 PM
Hey, these last two ones were totally new for me!

Queen Alexandra looked really younger than her sister in the first one, and in the second photo, Dagmar shows a great regal look, even if it is almost a "casual" photo.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 16, 2011, 01:13:52 PM
Quite a few photos from Hvidore came into the market. Think they maybe made into postcards too...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on January 16, 2011, 01:42:40 PM
People, for the love of Denmark, the suburb of Hvidovre (which is what you get when you type "Hvidore" into Google) is not the same as Hvidøre, indeed they are on completely different ends of Copenhagen! Don't you people have Windows language bars? Soon Holger Danske should emerge from the vaults of Kronborg and save Danish honour by smacking irreverant foreign fingers over their keyboards! (Lol, I'm beginning to sound like a Danomane from Struensee's time.)

But I do start to see why Queen Margrethe's Easter residence Århus just recently renamed itself Aarhus, as explained in this post (http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=8168.msg475974#msg475974). I saw a disgruntled Dane fuming: Thank God København is Copenhagen in English, otherwise, with globalisation at its current speed, we'd soon have to rename it "Buy-a-Harbour" (the literal meaning in Danish :-)

And Heaven forbid that the newborn baby prince, born on St. Severin's day, should be given the typically Danish name form Søren and endure a lifetime of having his name misspelt on royalty blogs!

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 16, 2011, 01:47:15 PM
Not everybody is Danish you know. Princess Alice, Duchess of Hesse named her daughter Alice, but had to fobbled off with "Alix". She wrote "They murdered my name here..." The girl grew up to be Empress of Russia. Interestingly, she signed her name "Alice" in photos to several of her friends and cousins...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on January 16, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
Not everybody is Danish you know.
Neither am I! And neither has my country been since 1814! And even if my language (Norwegian) does have an ø in my alphabet, I do have Windows language bar, like 99 % of you guys!

Quote
Princess Alice, Duchess of Hesse named her daughter Alice, but had to fobbled off with "Alix". She wrote "They murdered my name here...
She should have respelled it Ällis (or if she wanted to a bit more conventional: Aeliese or Èlise (more Hessians knew French than English)) and the Hessians wouldn't have had a problem with it!


Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 17, 2011, 06:41:47 PM
Yes. It has to do with spelling.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: violetta on January 22, 2011, 11:58:48 AM
the two sisiters with their father

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/alixminnywithfather.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: violetta on January 23, 2011, 04:02:35 PM
(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/16hi.jpg)


MF in a dress of her Blue Curaisseur Unit stationed in Gatchina
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: griffh on February 03, 2011, 03:23:33 PM
Does anyone know about a Boasson and Eggler portrait of the Dowager Empress in full court dress? 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 08, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
again the sisters

(http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/6739/kgrhqvlme2eo5unigbnnjkt.jpg) (http://img862.imageshack.us/i/kgrhqvlme2eo5unigbnnjkt.jpg/)
 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 10, 2011, 08:33:35 AM
A bit Bigger by Zanthia, posted here (http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=1529.135)


http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/Zanthia1982/milla014.jpg
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on April 26, 2011, 02:03:14 PM
Other pose from a sitting posted before.

Maria  and her eldest sons

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2hcdfkg.jpg)

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on April 26, 2011, 02:05:30 PM
Also an other pose from a posted before sitting. Here Alexandra is closer to Alexander and Maria holds her hand on his shoulder.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2i0w1g7.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on May 05, 2011, 04:29:08 AM
Marie F. with her siblings Alexandra and Waldemar in 1884

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2uf5a52.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on May 16, 2011, 03:57:25 AM
Maria Fedorovna in the beginning of 1890s.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/mf_1890s.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on May 16, 2011, 04:10:29 AM
that's a new one of her Svetabel. Thanks very much for sharing it.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on May 16, 2011, 04:33:50 AM
that's a new one of her Svetabel. Thanks very much for sharing it.

You are welcome. The photo is indeed new, I'd love to see the colour of her "tartan"dress...so nice.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 16, 2011, 11:38:43 PM
A new photo off Dowager Empress! Thanks for posting it Svetabel...Oh, and I also wish to see her tartan dress colorized. :D

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on May 17, 2011, 04:04:38 AM
that's a new one of her Svetabel. Thanks very much for sharing it.

You are welcome. The photo is indeed new, I'd love to see the colour of her "tartan"dress...so nice.

I wonder if the tartan could have been a gift from her sister Alexandra....
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Justine on June 14, 2011, 05:02:43 PM
I haven't seen these two before-I'm sorry if they have been posted before though.

Empress Maria, ca. 1895 (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9ef7b9136628634)
The Dowager Empress (http://www.imagebam.com/image/3d065c136628572)(does anyone have this less retouched?)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on June 14, 2011, 11:27:27 PM
I don't remember to have seen those two before. And in the last one, Maria reminds me teen Anastasia facial features.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on June 15, 2011, 04:03:55 AM
I haven't seen these two before-I'm sorry if they have been posted before though.

Empress Maria, ca. 1895 (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9ef7b9136628634)
The Dowager Empress (http://www.imagebam.com/image/3d065c136628572)(does anyone have this less retouched?)

Second photo is quite rare - there are many shots of MF from that sitting but not the full-length images.

First one is well-known, had been posted but not in such size.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Justine on June 15, 2011, 06:40:16 AM
I've known other poses from that sitting-one's even avaiable at Library of Congress, yet I could never find the date for this sitting-does anyone know when it could have been taken?

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on July 10, 2011, 04:14:45 AM
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2042/ok3g.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/ok3g.jpg/)

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 10, 2011, 02:41:13 PM
Taken on the Standart or Polar Star ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olgasha on July 11, 2011, 07:28:49 AM
Taken on the Standart or Polar Star ?

On the Tsarevna.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 11, 2011, 12:05:40 PM
Another of her ships ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 29, 2011, 02:24:36 PM
With Alexander

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/6107/img243333.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/img243333.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 29, 2011, 03:23:41 PM
They don't look too happy here...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Naslednik on July 29, 2011, 06:02:27 PM
Shocking how much Alexander III looks than MF.  Is this post-Borki?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 02, 2011, 03:12:51 PM
I think it is after the incident.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Zukunftsseele on August 10, 2011, 04:35:35 PM
I need some help for photo identification. A flickr friend of mine bought this cabinet card and the lady on the photo was id'ed as Sisi, Elisabeth Empress of Austria. It's obvious that it's not her and the seller now sees that he's wrong but now he claims it could be Dagmar of Denmark. What do you think?

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/zukunftsseele/5846133603_b09fc76678_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 10, 2011, 05:12:25 PM
It actually looks more like Miechen than Dagmar.  ;)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 10, 2011, 05:30:03 PM
no, its not Dagmar and its not Miechen
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on August 11, 2011, 02:40:36 AM
I need some help for photo identification. A flickr friend of mine bought this cabinet card and the lady on the photo was id'ed as Sisi, Elisabeth Empress of Austria. It's obvious that it's not her and the seller now sees that he's wrong but now he claims it could be Dagmar of Denmark. What do you think?



Some noble lady. Not a Royal person.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Zukunftsseele on August 11, 2011, 04:44:20 AM
Yes, that would have been my guess, too. I'm curious as to what the seller will say now. lol
Thanks for your help.  :-*
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 11, 2011, 09:32:22 AM
I did not say it was Miechen, but that it looked more like her than Sisi.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: blessOTMA on August 29, 2011, 09:13:38 PM
This looks like the future George the 5th, Minnie , Greek royals ( in fact isn't  that Princess Alexandra....Grand Duke Paul's first wife? )
then Nicholas

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Botkin/th_mfnagreeks.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Botkin/mfnagreeks.jpg)
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Post by: Svetabel on August 29, 2011, 11:31:14 PM
This looks like the future George the 5th, Minnie , Greek royals ( in fact isn't  that Princess Alexandra....Grand Duke Paul's first wife? )
then Nicholas

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Botkin/th_mfnagreeks.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Botkin/mfnagreeks.jpg)

First row (left to right): future George V, Empress MF, Greek Minny aka Marie of Greece, future Nicholas II
Back row: Prince Waldemar of Denmark, Prince Georgios of Greece.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 30, 2011, 12:28:37 PM
The older Minnie was much more elegant than the younger Minnie.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on August 30, 2011, 10:48:00 PM
Of course! The "older Minnie" was  one of the more elegant women of Europe...

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 01, 2011, 01:55:58 PM
Indeed. I read "young Minnie"'s auto-bio, but I wonder what the older one feel about her young namesake ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on October 15, 2011, 05:12:16 PM
c1860s Marie

(http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/49091/2447193740102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2447193740102753164WNYaMj)


Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 15, 2011, 05:22:11 PM
She was still in her crinoline and curls era. Her sister Alexandra used the curls to hide her scar on her neck.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 15, 2011, 06:58:10 PM
Its from late 1860s- early 1870s. i can tell for her gown.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: amartin71718 on October 15, 2011, 09:17:12 PM
She was still in her crinoline and curls era. Her sister Alexandra used the curls to hide her scar on her neck.
What scar?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on October 15, 2011, 09:36:42 PM
She was still in her crinoline and curls era. Her sister Alexandra used the curls to hide her scar on her neck.
What scar?


It's often stated that Princess Alexandra had a scar on her neck that she didn't like from an illness when she was young. It's why she wore curls on her neck when young and set the fashion for dog collars as she got older.

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 15, 2011, 10:43:52 PM
Yes. So the dress and hairstyle fits the period.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on December 01, 2011, 01:28:03 PM
Maria Fedorovna with Queen Olga of Greece

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/mfolga.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 01, 2011, 01:46:26 PM
Olga was Dagmar's favorite sister-in-law. They remained close for many years.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Condecontessa on December 01, 2011, 01:59:22 PM
What's the approxiamte date of the last pic?
Thanks, still learning to date pics by fashion :)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on December 01, 2011, 02:17:29 PM
What's the approxiamte date of the last pic?
Thanks, still learning to date pics by fashion :)

1877-1878 I think.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 01, 2011, 02:20:17 PM
Dating the photo merely by fashion, I'd say probably early 1870s because it seems that the bustles are rather large, and the overall frilly-ness in trim and slightly looser fit of the bodices indicate the early bustle era, probably between 1870-1875. I could be wrong, though, & in that case it would be 1884-1889, the 2nd large bustle era, but it doesn't seem to be that to me...

Oh, I see that you've posted a date, Svetabel! Knowing that you're far more knowledgeable about Marie Feodorovna than I am, your dating is probably more accurate, though Queen Olga's dress does not seem to be very natural form era to me, because of the jutting out of the bustle.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 02, 2011, 05:57:11 AM
Nope, thats not early 1870s, but late 1870s, so Svetabel is right.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 02, 2011, 11:29:14 AM
Minny stilled looked a bit girlish in the photo while Olga looked more mature.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on December 21, 2011, 05:05:26 AM
The Empress with children Georgiy and Xenia and relatives. About 1890.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/mfolga-1.jpg)

Sitting from left to right: Marie of Greece, Xenia, MF, Queen Olga of Greece with her son Christopher
Standing: GD Georgiy, GD Mikhail Nikolayevitch.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 21, 2011, 12:35:26 PM
Was it taken in St Petersburg or Moscow ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on December 21, 2011, 02:05:40 PM
Was it taken in St Petersburg or Moscow ?

Peterhof.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 21, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
Thanks !  :)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Clemence on April 24, 2012, 09:30:05 AM
Was Nicholas her first born child? I think I read somewhere she had another boy before? Sorry, it was her second born, I found it again, Alexander ... do we know something more about him?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 24, 2012, 11:04:00 AM
He died very young. As he was her first born. It is understandable why she spoilt her children (especially the elder ones). She also had a miscarriage in her life too...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Clemence on April 24, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
Eric, I too remembered him as the first born but not according to wikipedia! Do you remember where you read about it?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 24, 2012, 11:26:24 AM
It was in Coryne Hall's book on Marie Feodorovna "Little Mother Of Russia".
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Janet Ashton on April 28, 2012, 05:58:40 AM
To clarify: NICHOLAS (1868-1918) was the first born, though, as Coryne Hall suggests in "Little Mother of Russia", there is some evidence that the future Empress Marie F. may have had a miscarriage before her successful pregnancy with him. Alexander lived 1869-70, and the idea that he was the first son is nothing more than one of those "lost heir" fantasies which arise when a monarch screws up as Nicholas did: the fond idea that if his brother had succeeded, things might have gone differently. It used to be written that Alexander was the eldest in the sort of books which summarised royal lives, not in-depth biographies - in fact, Alexander Mikhailovich may be responsible, ultimately, because he did say this in one of his many tomes. Coryne does not describe him as first son in her in-depth book, because he wasn't.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 30, 2012, 09:07:50 AM
Yes. I think they mixed up the miscarriage with Alexander. The fact that there is no photo of Alexander complicated things. Even her sister Alix posed in a photo with her baby son Eddy.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Belochka on April 30, 2012, 07:56:02 PM
To clarify: NICHOLAS (1868-1918) was the first born, though, as Coryne Hall suggests in "Little Mother of Russia", there is some evidence that the future Empress Marie F. may have had a miscarriage before her successful pregnancy with him.

My forthcoming book related to Alexander III presents indisputable evidence that will confirm once and for all whether Tsesarevna Mariya Fyodorovna suffered a miscarriage or not.

Margarita  
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 01, 2012, 01:04:18 PM
When will it be  published ?  :)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: miki_nastya on May 03, 2012, 05:39:47 AM
any online documentary about her?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 04, 2012, 09:56:27 AM
Don't think so other than bits from the Danish program on Glucksborgs on youtube.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ena on May 07, 2012, 03:07:50 PM
To clarify: NICHOLAS (1868-1918) was the first born, though, as Coryne Hall suggests in "Little Mother of Russia", there is some evidence that the future Empress Marie F. may have had a miscarriage before her successful pregnancy with him. Alexander lived 1869-70, and the idea that he was the first son is nothing more than one of those "lost heir" fantasies which arise when a monarch screws up as Nicholas did: the fond idea that if his brother had succeeded, things might have gone differently. It used to be written that Alexander was the eldest in the sort of books which summarised royal lives, not in-depth biographies - in fact, Alexander Mikhailovich may be responsible, ultimately, because he did say this in one of his many tomes. Coryne does not describe him as first son in her in-depth book, because he wasn't.
Thank you, Janet.  It also doesn't help when a so-called "expert" on this forum also continues on with this misinformation.

Here is a photo of baby Alexander's tomb I took inside the Peter & Paul Cathedral. He lived 1869-1870. I hope all debates about his order of birth can cease! ;)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/trsny/P1050062.jpg)


 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: cebi26 on June 01, 2012, 08:54:33 PM
What was the color of Minnie's eyes? And what about her children?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 01, 2012, 11:33:05 PM
Nicholas II had blue eyes like his mother...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 02, 2012, 04:27:07 AM
Minnie had brown eyes as far as I know. They look dark on photographs and there is this well-known portrait of her and Alexandra. Alix has blue eyes and minnie brown in it.

(http://nd02.jxs.cz/619/990/7f2795d9da_52229018_o2.jpg)

Nicholas and Misha had blue eyes, Xenia, Georgi and Olga brown eyes I think.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: cebi26 on June 02, 2012, 01:18:59 PM
Thank you for the replies! I always thought that GD George had blue eyes like his brothers.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 02, 2012, 01:23:26 PM
Thank you for the replies! I always thought that GD George had blue eyes like his brothers.

that may be correct, I am really not sure. I have only seen one colour portrait of him and it was rather hazy, so impossible to state his eye-colour from it.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 02, 2012, 07:43:10 PM
Not sure...Many books commented on the blueness of the last Tsar's eyes and how they resembled his mother's.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Naslednik on June 02, 2012, 10:00:42 PM
Minnie's first fiancee, Nixa, described her eyes as "kind, intelligent, animated."

And here Dr. Malcolm Grow, the American surgeon who joined the Russian Army in WWI, described Nicholas' eyes:

"He had large dark eyes---the kindest eyes I have ever seen" (I always like the fact that he wrote this before Nicholas was killed, so you know Grow's memory wasn't tainted by historical events)

Perhaps mother and son did have similar eyes.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 03, 2012, 02:18:50 AM
I have never come across any book or account, forget "many", that would claim the last Tsar got his mother´s eyes. While it is possible that the look in Nicholas´ and his mother´s  eyes was similar, Nicholas had unquestionably blue eyes and Marie brown ones. I think I recall a quote by Ssandro, where he says Xenia had the darkest eyes possible just like her mother. And while I know that sometimes blue eyes look brown because of the angle of the light and all, I don´t think that is the case here.

The portraits of Marie Fyodorovna speak quite clearly.

(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll299/Romanovy/517oyarovV_PtMariiFedorKoNT.jpg)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll299/Romanovy/1882kramskoymuserussestp2eq.jpg)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll299/Romanovy/3894276619_23aa323b86_b.jpg)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll299/Romanovy/f03a-l.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 03, 2012, 10:11:08 AM
Thanks. I wonder where the blue eyes of the Tsar came from ? Empress Marie Alexandriovna (his grandmother) ?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 03, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Alexander III. had blue eyes. And I believe Alexander II. as well.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 04, 2012, 06:55:21 AM
Maybe from the father's side. They usually quote Nicholas II having the same eyes as his mother. I guess that must be a miss quote. That aspect also came up in the Anna Anderson case.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: cebi26 on June 04, 2012, 11:49:47 AM
From the portraits, it seems to me that Nicholas, George & Michael had blue eyes and Xenia and Olga brown ones.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 05, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Some of the portraits are not realiable...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 06, 2012, 02:35:11 PM
Maybe from the father's side. They usually quote Nicholas II having the same eyes as his mother. I guess that must be a miss quote. That aspect also came up in the Anna Anderson case.

Just an opinion: Can't it be that they were reffering that Emperor Nicholas had the same -or similar- shape of eyes than his mother? I really doubt that MF had blue eyes, she seemed to have dark eyes, unlike her sister Alexandra. I also believe that both Olga and Ksenia had dark eyes, they inherited a lot of her mother's appereance.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 06, 2012, 10:05:03 PM
Maybe I think those quotes on the eyes should be reexamined.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: edubs31 on June 07, 2012, 12:59:37 AM
Maybe I think those quotes on the eyes should be reexamined.

Ba dum tssss! :-)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 08, 2012, 10:12:23 AM
Dagmar had been described as both gentle and bossy at diffident times.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: mclisa on June 17, 2012, 10:45:16 AM
Robert Massie says in Nicholas and Alexandra that Marie had brown eyes.  Greg King says in a post
on kingandwilson.com that her eyes were blue.  Which one is correct?

They look brown in the portraits with which I am familiar.  However, I know of instances in which dark
blue eyes look brown on film except in extreme closeup. It may be the same with color reproductions of portraits.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: mclisa on June 17, 2012, 10:49:54 AM
On looking again at the portraits reproduced in this topic, I think they're probably blue.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 17, 2012, 01:36:05 PM
That is so confusing...

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: miki_nastya on June 20, 2012, 06:04:05 AM
how tall was she? I know she was quite short? but how exactly?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 20, 2012, 10:34:10 AM
I would think about 5 to 5'2. Her husband was at least 6 to 6'5. I would think...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Jen_94 on August 01, 2012, 04:29:25 AM
I have been wondering the same thing about her height. She was quite small. I'd assume 5ft3 going by photos?
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Sara Araújo on October 02, 2012, 03:06:24 AM
Young Maria:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img692/8804/dsc996820.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/dsc996820.jpg/)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: RealAnastasia on November 26, 2012, 12:10:39 AM
Probably, her eyes were dark blue...

RealAnastasia
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: grandduchessella on November 26, 2012, 10:56:07 AM
Yes. I think they mixed up the miscarriage with Alexander. The fact that there is no photo of Alexander complicated things. Even her sister Alix posed in a photo with her baby son Eddy.

There is a photo of Alexander. It's been reproduced several times. I think it's a post-mortem shot of him surrounded by flowers with a little cap.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 26, 2012, 02:00:44 PM
Cannot find it ...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: edubs31 on November 26, 2012, 03:18:34 PM
It's on his Wikipedia page. Have a look...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duke_Alexander_Alexandrovich_of_Russia
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 26, 2012, 03:25:46 PM
Thanks. So Sad. He was a beautiful baby from his photograph. :-(
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: grandduchessella on November 26, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
He really was a darling looking thing. I've always found Marie F so tragic in that respect--the loss of all 4 sons, 4 of her 6 total children. Then 5 of her grandchildren on top of it.

 The article says: "He died of meningitis in 1870, one month before his first birthday. "The doctors maintain he did not suffer, but we suffered terribly to see and hear him," His parents had him posthumously photographed and sketched to remember him, therefore it is likely that the only existing photograph of Grand Duke Alexander is the one to the right, of the infant in his coffin surrounded by flowers."

Almost all of Christian IX's children (with the exception of Frederick VIII & Waldemar) suffered the loss of multiple children:

Queen Alexandra--Alexander John and Albert Victor
Empress Marie--Nicholas, Alexander, George, Michael
Thyra--Christian and George
George I--Olga and Alexandra

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 26, 2012, 09:15:42 PM
Indeed. However in Dagmar's case it was the revolution rather than disease that took away Nicky & Misha. 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: grandduchessella on November 26, 2012, 10:32:09 PM
Obviously. Each of the 4 siblings lost 2 children to illness/physical ailment or injuries following an accident in George Wilhelm's case. Marie lost 2 more children additionally. The point was, that's a lot of tragedy.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 26, 2012, 11:01:09 PM
Yes. as you pointed out Freddy & Valdemar escaped tit.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 27, 2012, 06:24:41 AM
I thought Alexander died almost after his birth. So if he died a month before his first birthday, there must be more images of him, since their brothers had several images as babies.

Let hope they pop up soon, it would be great see that baby alive. Seeing the PM image, you can tell he was beautiful!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 27, 2012, 01:40:20 PM
Yes. The thing is that he died so young helped Dagmar get over it a bit more quickly. But I do understand why she became possessive of her surviving children (especially she also lost George).
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ena on November 27, 2012, 08:59:28 PM
I thought Alexander died almost after his birth. So if he died a month before his first birthday, there must be more images of him, since their brothers had several images as babies.

Let hope they pop up soon, it would be great see that baby alive. Seeing the PM image, you can tell he was beautiful!
I'm convinced there are photos of Alexander somewhere.  Maybe just collecting dust in some archives.  I find it hard to believe there were many photos of the other children, but none of him.  That said, I believe Alexander and Marie traveled a great deal during baby Alexander's first year, so there's a possibility there weren't photos.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 28, 2012, 12:57:02 AM
Maybe there could be some of Alexander and Nicholas together.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on May 08, 2013, 08:40:04 PM
On the siteallworldwars.com there is a section on Russo-Japanese war photos by Victor Bulla. One of them is a picture of what I think is Marie-Fed in front of her hospital train with some of her staff. It has the same writing on as a picture of her WW I era train in the Imperial transportation section. I don't have the computer skills to post it here but I thought you all would like to know.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on May 09, 2013, 02:49:17 AM
On the siteallworldwars.com there is a section on Russo-Japanese war photos by Victor Bulla. One of them is a picture of what I think is Marie-Fed in front of her hospital train with some of her staff. It has the same writing on as a picture of her WW I era train in the Imperial transportation section. I don't have the computer skills to post it here but I thought you all would like to know.

There is no Empress Maria Fedorovna in those photos. Only her daughter GDSs Xenia with the staff of her train, and the other picture shows only staff of the Empress' train.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 09, 2013, 08:28:02 AM
Sad. Thanks for info.  :(
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on October 01, 2013, 08:52:10 PM
A new version of the c1881 photo of MF in court dress that surfaced on eBay recently.


http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/20/42/23/2042230e1fbbcd8599c1ef401e539f84.jpg


Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Olga Maria on October 02, 2013, 01:21:14 AM
Thanks for that photo, Katmaxoz : )  That’s new for me as a photo, but it seems like it became a basis for a portrait made of her (if I recall it right?)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on October 02, 2013, 04:56:17 AM
Thanks for that photo, Katmaxoz : )  That’s new for me as a photo, but it seems like it became a basis for a portrait made of her (if I recall it right?)

I think it was. There's a few different versions of this photo which has turned up in the last few years. I suspect there is a full length one that was taken and used for her formal painted portrait done at the same time....bu the photo hasn't surfaced yet..
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 02, 2013, 10:59:10 AM
I think the portrait had her smiling...
Title: Dowager Empress Marie Feodorovna - stranded at the outbreak of World War I
Post by: Loadman on March 11, 2014, 12:35:06 PM
There is an interesting cigarette case coming up for sale in the Tennants  Spring Fine Arts Sale  2014 at the end of the month.
The accompanying letter which can be read on the page detailing the lot ( Lot 394) describes how a Mrs Walter Wall from Charlotte North Carolina was stranded at the hotel Inghleterra. (actually the Hotel d'Angleterre) due to the outbreak of war. At the same time MF arrived, from Berlin, where she had been refused access back to Russia by the Kaiser. It would appear the Dowager Empress and Mrs Wall became acquainted and on leaving for Russia the Dowager Empress made a gift to Mrs Wall of a small cigarette case. The accompanying letter is beautifully written and, I feel, captures the characteristics of MF as described in the book "Little Mother of Russia". The whole story seems to hang together on number of levels. Prince Yussupov confirms his presence in the hotel at the time in his own writings.

I thought some of the members may be interested in seeing this piece which has real Romanov connections and is being auctioned Ina provincial English auction house rather than the lavish Faberge items which come up for sale in Sotheby's and Bonhams. The cigarette case is rather beautiful being well illustrated along with the letter which is dated 1936.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 15, 2014, 11:33:40 PM
I think there is a market for it.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 27, 2014, 06:45:51 AM
Maria Fyodorovna and her sister-in-law Olga Konstantinovna

(http://cs618930.vk.me/v618930079/9c4c/AWYvvN_6GAo.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: katmaxoz on June 27, 2014, 08:04:50 AM
Maria Fyodorovna and her sister-in-law Olga Konstantinovna



Lovely photo Ally. A new one for me. Thank you for sharing it
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 10, 2014, 12:19:51 AM
Maria Feodorovna is my favorite Romanov!

Yes she could be selfish and stubborn and maybe she did gossip too much but she really was the perfect consort. She really complemented her husband and softened all the ruff edges. It's amazing how their marriage worked even though as her daughter Olga said they had absolutely NOTHING in common. She may not have been an intellectual like Empress Frederik but she did have a knack for common sense. I think a lot of what she advised her son during the first years of his reign on policy and who to trust was pretty much for the most on point. She definitely seems to be full of contradictions and such but Russia was really lucky to get her!

People usually said her sister Alexandra was the real beauty but I think Maria was very beautiful as well. Although when I look at her picture the first thing that comes to mind is she looks cute. So in my opinion her nickname Minnie really did fit her!

The last years of her life were so sad and even though she had Olga (and her family) with her as well as loyal servants it just seems like such a lonely end, especially for a woman who loved to be the center of attention. I recently received "HVIDØRE - A Royal Retreat" by Coryne Hall/Senta Driver and reading about her last years definitely confirmed my feeling that she was probably one of the most tragic royals ever. To become a window so young, to lose four sons and five grandchildren and then to hear about all though imposter's! Most of all to be run out of and exiled from the country she came to love so much after living there for over 50 years is just terrible and I can't imagine going through any of it. She was definitely a mighty strong woman!

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 13, 2014, 09:42:42 PM
Minny was the most bossy of the three Danish sisters, but she also had a heart and many acts of kindness attributed to her. Compared to her daughter-in-law, at least she knew how to have fun and laugh. Her sense of humor had been recorded in family memoirs already. Moreover she was also a real person who loved beautiful things and gossip...
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 14, 2014, 02:01:12 AM
Maria Feodorovna definitely was bossy and that's probably part of why she was able to survive in the ruthless Russian court. She may have been a small woman but at heart she was a lion. I think Alexandra and Thyra could have been successful in their own way as Russian Empresses too but Maria was definitely the best fit.

She definitely had the heart, wits and common sense to be successful. She was anti-Semite yet showed great kindness to Jews and then supported the liberal ministers during her son's reign because she knew that's what Russia needed despite it being the opposite of what her husband championed. She knew what ways the wind was blowing and what had to be done. If Maria Feodorovna was consort to Nicholas I think a lot things would have ended differently.

Nobody ever put Minny in a corner!!!  :D

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 17, 2014, 04:59:46 AM
Minny was sharp and alert, much more than obstinate & sickly Alicky. 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 20, 2014, 01:41:17 PM
Maria with Mary, Duchess of York and Sophie, Crown Princess of Greece in Denmark

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/fe855dccf4f3d6414895c84e1d1e47e2/tumblr_n3kep9p8UL1rqdmblo1_500.png)

And this portrait is new to me. Anyone know who painted it?

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/8b71f029e940daca64166822a3e06431/tumblr_n3jfa6DSpo1qiu1coo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 21, 2014, 07:49:45 AM
No idea. Just came out recently...shown I mean.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Maria Sisi on January 02, 2015, 10:14:53 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Maria_Feodorovna_with_her_children_Xenia_and_Michael.jpg/282px-Maria_Feodorovna_with_her_children_Xenia_and_Michael.jpg)
Royal Collection

Is there a better quality version of this one?
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/62/3f/56/623f56b392c9bf876a1dac7691cdb6c0.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 03, 2015, 10:46:36 AM
I do not recall seeing this one

(http://feb-web.ru/feb/rosarc/pictures/vka-365.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 05, 2015, 01:43:36 PM
At Spala

(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9652/97833783.9bb/0_105128_9507c51d_orig)
Source: http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/4940966/post327414544
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 10, 2015, 11:51:55 AM
(http://russkiymir.ru/export/sites/default/russkiymir/ru/magazines/archive/2012/04/graphic/58_3.jpg)

Can anyone tell me who is the child on Queen Olga´s lap please?

Source http://www.russkiymir.ru/media/magazines/article/99711/
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: miki_nastya on January 10, 2015, 01:31:36 PM
I think is her youngest son...prince Christopher of Greece and Denmark
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 11, 2015, 11:24:30 PM
Absolutely !
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 13, 2015, 03:26:53 PM
Thank you all for the replies!

This one is new for me!

(http://stat17.privet.ru/lr/09256ee1fb69c06088417f6e87bc8902)

Foud here: http://il-ducess.livejournal.com/254612.html?thread=6063252
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 17, 2015, 03:17:55 AM
(http://cs622920.vk.me/v622920079/17d0d/OUyW-v156_o.jpg)

(http://cs622920.vk.me/v622920079/17d04/KpPcB7XdcyM.jpg)

http://vk.com/club35562918
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 17, 2015, 03:00:19 PM
(http://images1.cdn.k.dk/sites/default/files/2013/01/335577.jpg)

http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/bagsiden/et-overset-kongepar-dukker-frem-af-glemslen
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 17, 2015, 03:12:44 PM
(http://www.kongehuset.no/aim/kongehuset2/files/2/a/f/d940aab2ecdf40dea7823466d28ef50929b73e5dc8/2afd940aab2ecdf40dea7823466d28ef50929b73e5dc8.jpg)
http://www.kongehuset.no/artikkel.html?tid=101721
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 17, 2015, 03:36:42 PM
(http://www.fotohistorie.com/uploads/1/1/2/2/11226425/8098482_orig.jpg)

http://www.fotohistorie.com/kejserinde-dagmar-af-rusland.html
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Maria Sisi on February 08, 2015, 09:45:55 PM
Maria Feodorovna at Olga's second wedding to Nikolai Kulikovsky.
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1724/tbsi.jpg)

And here is the dress she wore at the wedding
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0JerTCMq1QQ/UmF9Z8AGSpI/AAAAAAAAACo/DZeWf4an7s8/s1600/DSC08270.JPG)
http://maikenen.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-exhibition-denmark-and-zars-of.html

Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 03, 2015, 01:31:07 PM
While the first one is well known, the other two are new to me. Anyone knows who the lady is? The pictures look almost informal with little Nicky lying around :-)

(http://cs624223.vk.me/v624223079/278a1/EZA3ZZ_Zr5E.jpg)

Source http://vk.com/club35562918
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Maria Sisi on April 03, 2015, 04:59:25 PM
Wow what a great find Ally! I have never seen the ones with Nicholas on the floor. The way he's lying down makes it look very informal

Is there a bigger version? Unfortunately its a closed community so I can't view them in the link.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Svetabel on April 04, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
While the first one is well known, the other two are new to me. Anyone knows who the lady is? The pictures look almost informal with little Nicky lying around :-)

(http://cs624223.vk.me/v624223079/278a1/EZA3ZZ_Zr5E.jpg)

Source http://vk.com/club35562918

The other woman looks very much like Countess Alexandra Apraxina, later Princess Obolenskyaya, a very devoted friend of the Empress.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: KarinK on April 05, 2015, 04:03:44 PM
Lovely photos!

The other woman looks very much like Countess Alexandra Apraxina, later Princess Obolenskyaya, a very devoted friend of the Empress.

That is Aprak? Interesting. I'd never seen her photo before this.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 03, 2015, 03:23:15 AM
(http://cs622921.vk.me/v622921079/3230b/9MB9UzjM6Eg.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Maria Sisi on June 03, 2015, 10:46:39 AM
Where did you find that Ally?

I've seen some pretty bad sketches of her but this one doesn't look much like her at all
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 03, 2015, 01:54:18 PM
I found it here http://vk.com/club35562918

I agree it looks nothing like Minnie. I only recognized her because of the hairstyle which she wore in some of her photos.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 03, 2015, 06:44:03 PM
Its one by Jacotin i believe.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Kassafrass on June 04, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Thank you so much for these rare finds Ally-didi. It's always a pleasure to see more of my favorite Tiny Empress.

The photos of Maria and Nikolai have always been so interesting to me as they are so candid for formal portraits and even for informal portraits. The photo of her giving him a back ride really gives you a feel for how she must have felt about her darling baby boy, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: thebelgianhare on August 25, 2015, 07:39:38 PM
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/2cysj81.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2wd1t2b.jpg)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2ngbk28.jpg) 
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Maria Sisi on August 26, 2015, 09:09:22 AM
Lovely pics!

Who is the young girl in the photo with MF and Alexandra? It looks like their niece Maria Georgievna, Willy and Olga's daughter. It kind of looks like their sitting on her!
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: thebelgianhare on August 26, 2015, 10:49:43 AM
It is Princess Maria of Greece and Denmark. I think they are all sitting on her lap Maria Sisi everyone hand in hand
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 12, 2017, 01:04:05 PM
(https://pp.userapi.com/c604829/v604829168/48177/nFWhJvulENw.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Marie Feodorovna - discussion and pictures, Part III
Post by: Joanna on May 07, 2017, 01:30:50 PM
Goethe and Empress Marie Echo Our Century

Empress Marie and a lawnmower!

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2017/05/goethe-and-empress-marie-echo-our.html

Joanna