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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Greek Royal Family => Topic started by: kmerov on July 28, 2010, 06:53:51 PM

Title: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on July 28, 2010, 06:53:51 PM
The other thread was getting a bit long, so here is the second part.

King George I.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/youngvilhelm.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/kinggeorgeI.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on July 28, 2010, 06:56:36 PM
King George I and Queen Olga in 1882.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/georgeolga1882.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/gerogeandolga.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Veronica on July 28, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
Lovely photos Kmerov, thank you!
Queen Olga had a very sweet and childlike face, don't you think?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on July 29, 2010, 08:40:33 AM
You are very welcome.
Yes, I think she had a childlike face, but at the same time there was something matronly about her face and figure aswell.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 29, 2010, 11:17:29 AM
Willy (George I) was quite handsome too, and merited a mention in QV's letters.  ;)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on July 31, 2010, 02:55:22 PM
do we know what was wrong with the queens face when she was older? in the last pictures of the first thread seemed like a serious problrm to me.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on July 31, 2010, 09:58:19 PM
Probably just the toll that the assassination of her husband, her family's mass murder in Russia (and the corresponding loss of so much of her heritage), and the constant upheavals of exile with the Greek monarchy. I think that all showed on her face, and probably in her health, though her eyes maintained a gentleness in my opinion.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on August 02, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/opzich/QueenOlgaofGreece1920.jpg)

I find it pretty obvious there must be a medical condition, paresis perhaps, and I wanted to know if it's known somehow.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: ashdean on August 02, 2010, 12:47:32 PM
I find it pretty obvious there must be a medical condition, paresis perhaps, and I wanted to know if it's known somehow.
Bells palsy might be the cause.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 02, 2010, 02:04:28 PM
Well...without medical records who can say for sure ?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: ashanti01 on August 06, 2010, 12:22:07 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/KR/queenolgaglasses001-1.jpg)
Queen Olga
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on August 12, 2010, 06:18:30 PM
Queen Olga on her deahtbed.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/th_queenOlgadeathbed.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/queenOlgadeathbed.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 12, 2010, 11:36:59 PM
The use of death bed photos was quite common, I think the last English King to be photographed was Edward VII.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on August 13, 2010, 10:41:06 AM
The practice rather died (no pun intended) with that era--at least in England. The Greek royal family had several deathbed ones--George I, Olga, Alexander I (including one with  a distraught Aspasia). By the 1930s, it was far less common--I can think of very few royals (like Queen Astrid) who had death photos during that period. In the Victorian/Edwardian eras it was very common.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 13, 2010, 11:12:24 AM
I think the last one is not a royal...The last Pope. Yet QV was not photographed as she requested none should be taken.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on August 14, 2010, 05:57:05 PM
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/gorgolgadegreece.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on August 15, 2010, 01:40:35 AM
Wonderful photo of father and daughter! Alexandra looks very much like her mother  Olga there.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on August 15, 2010, 04:41:23 PM
The picture ID was George and Olga ca. 1900, but I thought it looked like Alexandra and definitely not around 1900.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on August 15, 2010, 04:50:27 PM
The family with Eddie and George Wales.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/grfwitheddieandgeorgewales1880.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/olgageorgewwdiegoerge.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on August 15, 2010, 04:51:39 PM
George and Olga with Bertie.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/bertieolgageorge.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Veronica on August 15, 2010, 06:24:25 PM
Beautiful pics.
A sketch of Olga, GEorge and Bertie being photographed, like the last one posted:

(http://a.imageshack.us/img17/1713/iln1875athens253.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Veronica on August 15, 2010, 06:51:27 PM
Olga and her sons, from the same session with Eddie and George

(http://a.imageshack.us/img683/6224/copiadeolgagreece439.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on August 22, 2010, 09:36:09 AM
Close up of George I, Alexandra and Olga from Tuxens family portrait.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/detailtuxen.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on August 22, 2010, 09:39:10 AM
King George I.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/george2-1.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/georgeI-1.jpg)

George with Constantine and Nicholas in 1884.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/geoegeconstantinenicholas1884.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on August 27, 2010, 03:54:28 AM
Queen Olga with daughter Marie and her 2nd husband Perikles Ioannides.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/QueenOlga_d-rMaria_her2ndspouse.jpg)

I wonder - are there earrings/pearls in Perikles'ears? )
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on August 27, 2010, 04:14:41 AM
Queen Olga and Princess Alexandra of Wales in 1877

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/QueenOlga_SILAlexandra_1877.jpg)

These "umbrella" photos were really quite fashionable that period.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on August 27, 2010, 07:50:32 AM
well, it seems nothing will make greek people thinking a bit more kindly of their past kings (
yesterday I heard another kind remark on king George I: that is was his selling a great amount of stocks in the stock market that brought greece in the arms of the IMF for the first time in 1898!
the person who told me so, and apparently heard it on TV, is an MD and seemed someone who would normally be able to remember at least a few important facts in recent greek history, such as a lost greek-turkey war. yet, when I mentioned that to me it seemed highly insignificant what the king might have done with his own stocks vs a lost war, he didn't seem to even thing about it even for a moment. to him it was certainly the king who made us go in bankrupt!

I feel so sad to see what people know and are able to understand of their own country's history(
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 27, 2010, 08:04:30 AM
They have been brainwashed to believe the worst. While I don't think the Ex-King is a saint, I do not believe what the government is trying to make him up to be.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on August 27, 2010, 12:05:45 PM
was it Queen Olga who used to say she'd prefer a country ruled by one lion of pedigree than 100 mice?

I can't remember anymore!
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 27, 2010, 12:46:45 PM
Yes. Yet she was the only Queen that was beloved by the Greek people. One miust also remember she was the niece of the autocrat of Russia.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on August 29, 2010, 01:27:01 AM
One more from the session of Olga and her mother.
This is a version Olga looking at us...

(http://www.picatom.com/1l/7901-1-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/1l/7901-1.html)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on August 29, 2010, 04:07:47 AM
Yes. Yet she was the only Queen that was beloved by the Greek people. One miust also remember she was the niece of the autocrat of Russia.

actually, I totally agree with her )))
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Ilias_of_John on August 30, 2010, 02:31:21 AM
well, it seems nothing will make greek people thinking a bit more kindly of their past kings (
yesterday I heard another kind remark on king George I: that is was his selling a great amount of stocks in the stock market that brought greece in the arms of the IMF for the first time in 1898!
the person who told me so, and apparently heard it on TV, is an MD and seemed someone who would normally be able to remember at least a few important facts in recent greek history, such as a lost greek-turkey war. yet, when I mentioned that to me it seemed highly insignificant what the king might have done with his own stocks vs a lost war, he didn't seem to even thing about it even for a moment. to him it was certainly the king who made us go in bankrupt!

I feel so sad to see what people know and are able to understand of their own country's history(

Clemence,
Can you please forward the nice Greek MD's details to me?
I will endeavour to remind him of some Greek history.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on September 01, 2010, 01:04:41 PM
could anyone tell me if there's some book about queen olga and how she escaped russia after the revolution?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 01, 2010, 05:21:43 PM
I think it was mentioned in her children's autobios.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on September 03, 2010, 10:57:35 AM
I think Olga is in a Greek dress in this picture, eventhough it was taken in Saint Petersburg.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/olgaidragt.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: ashdean on September 07, 2010, 03:02:04 AM
could anyone tell me if there's some book about queen olga and how she escaped russia after the revolution?
Olga left Russia with her lady in waiting and 2 maids in a railway car tacked on to a train of repatriated Austrian POW's. The departure was made possible bt one if the neutral foreign embassies (no doubt the Danish who had already taken her jewels out).
The train stopped during the night whilst still in Russia but the Queen and her attendants though mildly disturbed thought nothing of it....next morning they found their carriage in the middle of the train...
The Austrians on hearing that Soviets thinking that a Romanov was leaving were going to unhook the car and leave it in the path of a oncoming freight train had by manual means rearranged the formation of the train and saved her life.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 07, 2010, 10:16:40 AM
I think she had her "every day jewels" with her and her lady-in-waiting just like her sister-in-law, Minny did.  ;)

That was really too close for comfort.  :o
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on September 07, 2010, 02:34:19 PM
could anyone tell me if there's some book about queen olga and how she escaped russia after the revolution?
Olga left Russia with her lady in waiting and 2 maids in a railway car tacked on to a train of repatriated Austrian POW's. The departure was made possible bt one if the neutral foreign embassies (no doubt the Danish who had already taken her jewels out).
The train stopped during the night whilst still in Russia but the Queen and her attendants though mildly disturbed thought nothing of it....next morning they found their carriage in the middle of the train...
The Austrians on hearing that Soviets thinking that a Romanov was leaving were going to unhook the car and leave it in the path of a oncoming freight train had by manual means rearranged the formation of the train and saved her life.

can't thank you enough! could you kindly tell where can I read about all this?
some time ago I met an old gentleman in the International Writers' and Translators' Centre of Rhodes who told me he was working on a book about how the old queen escaped russia ... and in that moment I realised I knew too little on this!
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 07, 2010, 02:40:55 PM
I think it would be nice to know where the information came from. Thanks in advance.  :)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: ashdean on September 07, 2010, 02:48:35 PM
The story came from either a biography of her grand daughter Marina or the autobiographies of either her sons Nicholas or Christopher...none of which I have at hand I'm sorry to say.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on September 08, 2010, 10:07:55 AM
I think the 2 part article on her in Royalty Digest discussed it as well. Perhaps also Gilded Prism, Romanov Autumn and Flight of the Romanovs?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: ashdean on September 08, 2010, 10:27:48 AM
The story of her flight is mentioned in her son Prince Christophers memoirs and the POW's who saved her life were German....Forgive my mistake earlier...it was just from memory!
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 08, 2010, 10:53:11 AM
It is ok. We read so many books that sometimes we forget whick book the info came from. That is why I am rereading some of my books lest memory start to play games on me.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: kmerov on October 22, 2010, 08:43:08 AM
Queen Olga
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/olgaafgrkenland.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/olga1903-1.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 22, 2010, 04:35:17 PM
Olga's features did not change much...she just aged. She did have the face of a madonna.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on November 10, 2010, 02:21:00 PM
do we know what the title of Queen Olga became after the death of her husband?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 10, 2010, 02:22:40 PM
Most like Dowager Queen of Greece.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on November 10, 2010, 03:09:03 PM
thank you eric, I do not know if this title was ever used in greece/greek though ...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 10, 2010, 03:56:58 PM
That was the correct use of her title, although people continue to call her "Queen Olga". Poor Sophie was never Queen Sophie, but the Queen of Greece.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Robert_Hall on November 10, 2010, 04:03:00 PM
There were no kings or queens of  Greece. The title was "of the Hellenes"
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Alixz on November 11, 2010, 09:00:13 AM
Why was Sophie never called "Queen Sophie" as Olga was called Queen Olga?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on November 11, 2010, 10:31:56 AM
ok, maybe someone who knows a bit more could explain?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 11, 2010, 01:42:28 PM
"Queen Olga" was well beloved in Greece, while Queen Sophie was not as well known and suffered from the German connection.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Alixz on November 12, 2010, 09:10:56 AM
So it truly wasn't that she wasn't a "Queen of Greece" but that the citizens did not hold her in the same esteem and therefore did not call her Queen?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Vecchiolarry on November 12, 2010, 09:58:15 AM
Hi,

My take on this is that her husband was bounced on & off the throne so many times that perhaps Sophie never had the opportunity to establish herself as "Queen"...
This never happened to Olga;  she was seen & revered as "Queen" for 50 years, and was very well established as 'head of the family (rightly or wrongly) even after she was 'Queen Mother'.......

It seems to me that even today Olga is viewed as a queen and Sophie, Elizabeth, Fredericka and even Anne Marie are overlooked!

Larry
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 12, 2010, 12:24:52 PM
Queen Olga was beloved as the mother of her people, her reputation was spotless in Greece unlike those who came after her.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 12, 2010, 02:27:32 PM
Plus, she was consort longer than all her successors combined. Much like Queen Mary had to shake off people thinking of Alexandra being Princess of Wales since she'd held the title for almost 50 years, Olga had been their Queen longer than most people could remember.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on November 17, 2010, 08:02:53 AM
Queen Olga was beloved as the mother of her people, her reputation was spotless in Greece unlike those who came after her.

well, both George I and his son came in contrast with the greek parliament the way they decided on their future brides and announced the engagements and both Olga and Sophia were initially hated because they were thought to promote Olga panslavism and Sophia german views on international politics. if I had to find the difference between them, I'd probably say Olga was lucky because hers were easier times to rule, in greece and in general. I often think of Olga and Maria Feodorovna, Sophia and Alexandra Feodorovna and try to immagine what if they ruled each others' country ...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 17, 2010, 01:18:04 PM
Also Queen Olga was very established when Sophie came along. Empress Frederick tried to ruse her daughter to form a group within her group, but afraid of trampling on the older woman's established groups. This can be seen in her letters to Sophie. To be fair, Sophie's political influence was much less than her cousin Missy of Romania or Alicky in Russia. Sophie was just bad luck to be the Kaiser's sister, with a husband who did not want to war with the Allies.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Alixz on November 18, 2010, 08:48:28 AM
One would think that the Greeks would have had sympathy for Sophie as Kaiser Wilhelm II almost threw her out of the family for changing her religion to Greek Orthodox in order to marry Constantine and be at one with the Greek people.

Sophie, from what I have read, was not a German sympathizer any more than Marie of Roumania, or Alexandra of Russia.  But people, as usual have to put a "spin" on that which they don't understand.

Remember how happy the Greeks were that a Constantine and Sophia would be on the throne to bring about the "dream" of pushing out the Turks?  Where did that go?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 18, 2010, 10:28:20 AM
I don't think the Greek public knew how Sophie suffered for her country, she was more the suffer in silence type and did not openly complain like Missy or Ducky.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on November 18, 2010, 02:03:12 PM


Remember how happy the Greeks were that a Constantine and Sophia would be on the throne to bring about the "dream" of pushing out the Turks?  Where did that go?

well, when a country in at war for 10 years, first the 2 balkan wars, then the great war, together with a civil war and right after that another war in asia minor and a terrible loss of lives and properties there might just not be enough time for greek people to sympathise with poor Sophia's problems ... but people loved especially Alexandros, and he also used to say he wished to marry a greek (Aspasia) rather than a german cold blooded woman like his own mother. so maybe greeks were not so wrong about her image (not what she was ofcourse).
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Alixz on November 19, 2010, 08:53:55 AM
What a horrible thing to say about his own mother!

Germans through all of the years have gotten such bad press for their lack of outward emotion.  That didn't mean that they didn't have emotions!

Some people prefer dignity in public, as I guess Sophie did, than crying and "gnashing of teeth" about their personal problems.  Sophie was not only the daughter of Princess Victoria (Empress Frederick) but also the granddaughter of Queen Victoria.  Neither one of those women would have let their "dirty laundry" show in public.

And it was not Sophie's fault that the Greeks had been constantly at war or going to war.  That responsibility fell directly on the men in the family not their consorts.

The election of a king who was born into another dynasty in another country has always seemed, to me, a kind of fickle thing to do.  The Greeks were not the only country to do it, but they were a country that then undermined their choice.  First with the assassination of George I (and I know that was not a country wide decision) but then in the constant acceptance and rejection of his heirs.

It seems to me that poor Sophie got caught in the crossfire.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 19, 2010, 11:20:07 AM
Where did you get that quote that King Alexandros calling Queen Sophie "A coldblooded German woman" ? I would really want to know because as faras I can recall he was very devoted to his family.

Sophie was a bit like Alicky minus the political ambition. The thing is that Sophie was much more retiring than even her mother Vicky or Queen Olga. That she should be branded as a political intriguer is really one of the sick ironies of history.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on November 20, 2010, 03:08:23 PM
the way I see it, Alexandros was saying that just because his parents were so against his relationship with Aspasia and he wanted to point out that even if his family were all against them, greek people would be thrilled to have a greek girl in the royal family at last, and they would love her for being one of them, and she would not behave anything like his mother. And he was right. But he talked of how greek people thought his mother was, not of what he thought of her! And I read about this in many books in greek, but since I'm not at home right now, I'll come back to you in a day or two and will give you the exact words.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 22, 2010, 08:13:21 AM
Thanks. It would be helpful since it was so out of character with Alexandros. He was waving to his parents at the pier the last time and say "Come back soon" while his parents were holding back tears towards the seperation. It broke Queen Sophie's heart to leave her son behind...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on January 19, 2011, 07:46:50 AM
Queen Olga in 1880

(http://www.picatom.com/1r/1880-1-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/1r/1880-1.html)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 19, 2011, 03:44:40 PM
Newspaper print image based on a photo I guess. Is this from Russian Newspapers ?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 19, 2011, 04:08:14 PM
in fact is based in this  well known photoshoot

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5206848185_48e5eb671e_z.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 19, 2011, 04:17:27 PM
Yes ! Thanks ! I think most realistic looking prints came from actual photos.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on February 21, 2011, 04:01:55 AM
Queen Olga

(http://www.picatom.com/1t/ok-5-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/1t/ok-5.html)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 07, 2011, 08:33:06 AM
Young George

(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/718/scan0040.jpg) (http://img607.imageshack.us/i/scan0040.jpg/)
 
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on April 25, 2011, 05:02:10 AM
Queen Olga and her youngest boys, Andrea and Christo

(http://i52.tinypic.com/308xy60.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on April 26, 2011, 01:51:18 PM
Queen Olga

(http://www.picatom.com/1t/ok-5-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/1t/ok-5.html)

The same 1892 year, gathering in Fredensborg. Queen Olga with her mother, children Marie and Christopher, nieces Xenia, Victoria, Maud and Lovisa.

(http://i54.tinypic.com/8x62v4.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: THERRY on April 27, 2011, 02:59:25 AM
Very interesting. The old woman is Louise of Denmark ,her mother in law ?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: miki_nastya on April 27, 2011, 04:08:46 AM
Yes is Louise of Denmark...maybe they are in mourning for Albert Victor who died in January 1892
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on April 27, 2011, 04:15:57 AM
Very interesting. The old woman is Louise of Denmark ,her mother in law ?

Oh,yes, I meant to say mother-in-law. Of course not her mother. Sorry for typo.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on April 27, 2011, 04:17:06 AM
Yes is Louise of Denmark...maybe they are in mourning for Albert Victor who died in January 1892


And also Olga's daughter Alexandra died in 1891.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on May 16, 2011, 03:55:12 AM
Queen Olga
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/olgak1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/olga1_0.jpg)

Courtesy of soruem.gr (http://soruem.gr)

Btw, The Union of Russian Immigrants in Greece declared this 2011 year the Year of Queen Olga of Greece.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 16, 2011, 08:06:34 AM
Is it my idea or there are lots of images scanned by apf members and posted here first? just wondering..
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on May 16, 2011, 08:31:40 AM
Is it my idea or there are lots of images scanned by apf members and posted here first? just wondering..

If you mean soruem.gr (http://soruem.gr), then yes, a lot of their photos of Olga are from here, like my scan of Alexandra-Olga-Alexandra-Marie group - for years I've been watching its wandering around the I-net )).
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 16, 2011, 09:14:17 AM
i knew it! and even this, they put they mark on them...jesus...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on May 18, 2011, 01:08:38 PM
Queen Olga in 1890

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/1890.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Veronica on May 18, 2011, 06:12:50 PM
Queen Olga painted by Elisabeth Jerichau Baumann in 1868

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6763/olgagreece1868porjerich.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on May 24, 2011, 03:21:33 AM
Queen Olga

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/olga1903-1.jpg)

The same session

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/adf10e25e965.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 24, 2011, 07:24:10 AM
Curious image of King George I x 3. This was pretty common in early 1900s.

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4337/4080548572791b9b83aab.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/4080548572791b9b83aab.jpg/)
 
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on June 15, 2011, 03:54:40 PM
It could have been deleted because that is often done if the person who owns the photo (most often after buying one from ebay only to find it posted here) asks for it to be removed. The Forum has always been cooperative. Other forums, not so much, but they can enter the copyright fray at their own risk. We have many published authors (and aspiring ones as well) who spend a good deal of money to collect images to use in their books. They are very scrupulous (and polite) about asking them to be removed. It's long been the policy to do so quietly and without fuss so as to not engage in multiple rounds of copyright discussion (there is a thread for that) or hurt feelings as used to happen. If you use a photo that doesn't belong to you, you may wish to mark it somehow--that often allows the photo to remain on the boards. As long as no one can copy it and then resell it on ebay (as has been done) thus robbing the owner of some of the photos value. Also, and I presume Eric amongst other can speak to this, it lessens the value of any potential photo books (I point out Eric here since this is his genre) if the photos he buys at often great expense end up all over the internet unmarked.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 15, 2011, 04:19:56 PM
Thats not the reason in this case since  the image that Veronica posted is still there. I assume it was repeated.

Other thing..how can a person know its a repeated image since mostly of this images were produced in mass ? I wonder.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on June 15, 2011, 10:13:43 PM
I'm not  quite sure of  your meaning. Do you mean mass reproduced? It is almost abundantly clear when an image has been taken from ebay and that seller owns that particular copy of an image, mass produced or not. Once sold, ownership transfers to the buyer. As was mentioned, there is a thread on this and a policy  which will be enforced. Other sites have been shut down over this or  at least lost posters who would freely post of their own vast, rare collections.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 16, 2011, 07:26:07 AM
not always happens the way you say. About three years ago i bought a Pss Alexandra cabinet and a while ago i found the same picture in a flickr gallery. Happened that this guy bought a copy of the same image on ebay. Following your statement i would claim he stole my image and ask him  to take it off from his gallery, when he only bought another copy of the image since they were mass reproduced. Even happened here when Eddie , who has a collection of his own, posted  the same image of alexandra that it was on a ebay auction days before he posted that image. What if the owner had sent a message to the forum ad to ask to remove that image, even tho Eddie IS the owner of the copy of that same image?-.The same question for those who gonna buy copies of those rare images from the saxe coburg and gotha private albumns , which are currently on sale on ebay?.

This is a tricky thing, because as i said before, sometimes the image was taken by X photo studio, the negative sold and the image reproduced as CDV or Cabinet card by different or the same photo studios (there is one of Alexandra by Downey and the same image also by Melhuish).

The only way to Prove you own a "unique" picture is : 1) this is an unique image AKa candid family image, held previously by a private owner, 2)you bought a copy from a private archive and the owner assured you that it was a rare and unique  portrait, even tho if its an official image which, i repeat, it was mass reproduced and as costume back them, everybody had a copy.

Anyway, the picture i posted didnt belong to any owner, it was on a russian website of auctions and russian people, mostly of them , are more relaxed about copyright issues since the laws there are a bit different (for what i ve been told. Correct me if im wrong)

Back  to the topic..

Queen olga with Andrew and Christopher

 (http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/311/060338bab6a5f2l.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on June 16, 2011, 08:21:17 AM
I am not going to discuss this further. It is perfectly obvious and has been forever when people post an image from ebay. No items are exactly alike and can often be told apart from watermarks, bindings, etc... There are occasions where an item may be mistaken (Eric once thought I used one of Robert Golden's photos but I had gotten the picture from the ILN. This was quickly cleared up.) so, yes, there are often numerous copies of a certain image which is why 1000s of images are currently posted on the forum. However, when the exact image (markings, etc) is up on Ebay at this very minute....let's not be naive here. It has come to the seller's attention apparently. This IS THE POLICY. When an owner complains it WILL be removed. End of discussion. The Forum takes copyright very seriously and we will err on the side of caution. If it comes from other websites, the courteous thing to do is to note which one and give credit. Marlene, for instance, won't allow photos (which are from her very rare and extensive collection) to be copied from her website. You need to provide a link to them. Another website that people used to lift from all the time without credit was forced to shut down. This is why many of our users (such as Eddie and Svetabel who are so kind to share) mark their items. Some posters stopped posting their photos years ago or even left the Forum--a real loss. Even if the buyer intends to do nothing but sit on them and not publish them ever, they are still THEIRS. Many people don't care but I receive PMs from parties who want pictures removed--as I'm sure other mods have--and I will follow up. That is that persons' right. You don't have to like it. I have already referred people who are not conversant on the policy or copyright to the link discussing the situation. People could probably stand to read up on it. END of story--people either abide by the policies of the Forum or not. There's nothing more to discuss here.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 16, 2011, 09:53:08 AM
That seems clear enough. I hope people will abide by these simple rules of courtesy. I heard that now even ILN & the Graphic have websites and charge for usages of their images, but I guess it can't go back that far as 1900 and charge anybody that have a copy of an image from ILN.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on June 16, 2011, 10:47:03 AM
Thank you, Eric. As for the ILN, the copyright on images should have lapsed around the 1930s. I would think you could license (like from the Hesse archives or so on) from them rather than try and track down an issue if you were thinking of putting the images in a book. Anyway, back to topic.

I just purchased (speaking of old magazines!) the image of Queen Olga in front of the pyramids soon after her widowhood. Does anyone know much about this trip--what prompted it, who accompanied her, what she thought of the country or the trip's duration? It always struck me as rather adventurous (though certainly many royals visited) for this lady in her 60s, freshly widowed, to pack up and go visit the desert.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 16, 2011, 11:14:26 AM
Queen Olga was known to have great interest & energy for travel. She had a real miss during WWI when she tried to get out of Russia at the time of the Revolution. While Queen Sophie was more retiring by nature,  her mother-in-law was tireless in her work and also for her family.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on June 20, 2011, 02:13:15 PM


I just purchased (speaking of old magazines!) the image of Queen Olga in front of the pyramids soon after her widowhood. Does anyone know much about this trip--what prompted it, who accompanied her, what she thought of the country or the trip's duration? It always struck me as rather adventurous (though certainly many royals visited) for this lady in her 60s, freshly widowed, to pack up and go visit the desert.

I think you mean a photo of 1914 year. She was there with her brother Konstantin and his wife if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on June 20, 2011, 03:19:17 PM
Thank you for the additional information, Svetabel. Now to try and find a photo of Constantine and Elizabeth on the trip as well.  :)  I have been hunting for my own copy of this photo for awhile, having been outbid on ebay a few times. I actually prefer this as it's on a full-length page so I guess good things come to those who wait.  ;) Still, Queen Olga looks so incredibly sad and aged in this photo. It's good that she could have her brother along with her on the trip.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on June 21, 2011, 03:35:03 AM
Still, Queen Olga looks so incredibly sad and aged in this photo. It's good that she could have her brother along with her on the trip.

I find their Egypt trip quite sad for both  sister and brother. Olga lost her husband almost a year ago, Konstantin was in a bad health becouse of problems with his heart - that's why his doctors sent him to the Egypt. His death is not so far - 1915 year ((.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 21, 2011, 09:37:03 AM
It is good they get some quality time together, Queen Olga dedicated so much time & energy for her country & family, it would been nice for her to have a vacation with her brother.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on July 17, 2011, 10:02:40 AM
Queen Olga at Xenia and William Leeds's wedding :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/348106reinemreolgamariageleeds1921.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=348106reinemreolgamariageleeds1921.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Alixz on July 17, 2011, 11:57:25 AM
I don't see any picture??
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 17, 2011, 01:42:57 PM
It is there. I can see it very well. Olga wason the arm of her youngest son Prince Christopher of Greece, decked in white and pearls.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on July 17, 2011, 08:26:28 PM
I believe the gentleman alighting from the car behind them is Grand Duke Dmitri.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Alixz on July 18, 2011, 09:10:07 AM
Today, I can see it.  Yesterday, it didn't matter what I did, it wasn't there.

Thanks
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on July 28, 2011, 04:20:35 PM
King George shopping--is that Alexander and perhaps Hans of Schleswig-Holstein with him?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/GREECE/imageGEORGESHOPPING-1.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 29, 2011, 11:56:20 AM
Don't think it was Alexander. The boy is a bit dark like Paul of Serbia.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on August 10, 2011, 02:39:10 AM
http://www.old-print.com/mas_assets/full2/M1550897/M1550897251.jpg
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 10, 2011, 07:41:12 AM
Thanks for posting. Always wonder the inside of the palaces or villa in Greece.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on September 03, 2011, 04:43:22 PM
http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com/2010/01/queen-olga-of-greece-with-her-daughters.html

do you think it's alexandra or sophie?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 03, 2011, 06:08:13 PM
Sophie. 10000000% sure.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on September 03, 2011, 09:11:20 PM
The photo has been discussed before and it was agreed it was Sophie. The image was in the possession of Nicholas Tantzos and published as Alexandra in the book Inheritors of Alexander the Great. Marlene--who is the owner of that blog and the possessor, I believe, of the images from Tantzos's estate though I could be wrong about the latter--just made (for her, very rare) error in identification as did the original publisher and the family members who helped vet the book.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 04, 2011, 07:30:36 AM
It is easy to make that mistake. I went to state archieves that still mixed up Irene with Ella. :-(
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Laura_ on November 24, 2011, 09:05:51 AM
Apart from ''From Splendour to Revolution. The Romanov Women'' by Julia Gelardi, are there any other good books on Queen Olga ? I`d like to read more about her life but I do not know other titles.  :(
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 24, 2011, 12:41:37 PM
I think the book you mentioned is the most complete study of Olga. She does not have a book yet.  :(
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Laura_ on November 24, 2011, 01:08:15 PM
I thought so too, but wasn't sure. :)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 25, 2011, 09:47:18 PM
There's a really good section on Queen Olga in The Grand Duchesses. It's just a chapter but it's a pretty good look at her life. Also the series of articles done in Royalty Digest years ago.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 26, 2011, 01:59:27 PM
Yes. But the point is that Queen Olga has yet to have a book on her. I think there is enough material to merit one.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 26, 2011, 04:58:31 PM
Yes, I realize that she doesn't have her own book. That was gone over. I was merely adding additional places where she is part of the narrative. She wasn't the focus in From Splendour to Revolution either. I don't know if her personality could carry its own book or if, like Irene Hesse, the events that happened around her make for the story.

She's also touched on in Gilded Prism (which focuses on her branch of the Romanovs)  for anyone wanting to check it out.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 27, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
Understood. However there are areas of Olga that had not been gone through. For example her relationship with her various granddaughters. According to her will, all of them were left jewels, I do wonder who was her favorite ? Also the relationship between Olga and her daughters-in-law were not investigated. The situation with Irene Hesse was not the same since Irene destroyed her letters and correspondence (don't think there was a diary). I think more info can be found on Olga.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 28, 2011, 09:20:01 AM
Do you know that Olga didn't destroy her correspondence? It seems to be a pretty common occurence back then--sadly for researchers today. Plus, who knows what was lost in the various Greek upheavals, not to mention the Russian Revolution. Plus, Irene destorying her correspondence or not isn't the point I was making--her personality just wasn't one to support an entire book IMO. She was more an observer than participant in many important events. She is rarely mentioned in memoirs, etc...from the time and combing through multiple German magazines of the era, there is a surprising lack of ANYTHING about her. She rarely appeared at court or carried out the number of public occasions one might have expected from the SIL of the Kaiser. True, she and Henry were usually the foreign reps at events but Irene seems to be largely background. Now Olga was a Queen but seems to have much the sweet, retiring personality. What we do know of her relationships with her children and children in law seems pretty tame--unlike her husband's relationships with his sons. I'd actually like a full-length bio on George I.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on November 28, 2011, 01:35:37 PM
Queen Olga's diaries are existed, also her correspondence with her husband and some relatives.


Queen Olga and her SIL Alexandra in 1892.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/olgaalex1892.jpg)

Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 28, 2011, 03:46:14 PM
Yes !!! So you see a book about her do have information not used before (her own dairies & correspondences). Not to mention the dairies of her daughter-in-law Ellen, granddaughters Olga and Helen. All these sources does exist. The thing is anyone interested to do the work and go research. 
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 28, 2011, 04:14:49 PM
But that still doesn't answer whether she could carry her own book. I still believe (and Olga is a favorite of mine) that her life is interesting primarily because of the others in it and the events that happened around her. I still would rather see a bio on her husband.

Thank you as always, Sveta. If anyone would know it would be you.  :)  Plus, love the photo with Alexandra.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Alixz on November 28, 2011, 05:51:12 PM
Aren't there already books of the Kings of the Hellenes?  Maybe not one on George I alone, but others.  I know I have one by Van der Kriste.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 29, 2011, 07:47:36 AM
Yes, there's that book and a stand-alone written in the 1940s (?) by Walter Christmas on George I. Resources that have come to light more recently haven't been tapped and issues, such as the parent-child relationship with George I and his sons, was barely mentioned and then dropped in books such as the van der Kiste one. It seems the relationships could be very acrimonious but no big picture has ever been drawn--just tidbits mentioned here and there.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 29, 2011, 12:27:42 PM
I still think Queen Olga can carry her own book. I might do it myself some day if I have the time and money. There is a long period after her husband's death that indicated that she was still relevant in Greek politics. The fact that it was Queen Olga (and not Queen Sophie) that was allowed to go to King Alexander's death bed indicated that even the opposition could not wipe out the fact that she was still beloved by the Greeks. She also became a figure to rally upon when the Greek Royal Court in exile, not to mention that she was physically in Russia when the Revolution took place.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 29, 2011, 01:06:01 PM
Again, much of that is the events she witnessed rather than her own personality. She just strikes me, much as I'm a fan, as more an observer to events rather than a mover and shaker. But it's an argument going nowhere. If you'd like to write one, I'd definitely read it.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on November 30, 2011, 04:14:16 AM
But that still doesn't answer whether she could carry her own book. I still believe (and Olga is a favorite of mine) that her life is interesting primarily because of the others in it and the events that happened around her. I still would rather see a bio on her husband.

Thank you as always, Sveta. If anyone would know it would be you.  :)  Plus, love the photo with Alexandra.

You know I've heard a lection on Queen Olga and thought that she deserved not a bio but a sort of a book with her diaries and correspondence. Bio would be a dull one...as for example the lection I've heard was mainly on Olga's charities and how she loved Russia and Russian Navy...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 30, 2011, 09:37:54 AM
I agree with you 100% Svetabel. I would love to read the diaries for some insight on family, etc...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 30, 2011, 12:10:15 PM
A bio is more balanced as it included what people thought of her than just her own thoughts.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on November 30, 2011, 01:35:06 PM
A bio is more balanced as it included what people thought of her than just her own thoughts.

In Olga's case I don't think we would know something extraordinary - every contemporary praises her. Only once I read a rather disturbed remark on her: GD Sergei didn't like that she too often visited dying Alexander III in Livadia - he thought it was unnecessary to bother the Tzar every day.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 30, 2011, 02:33:44 PM
A bio is more balanced as it included what people thought of her than just her own thoughts.

In Olga's case I don't think we would know something extraordinary - every contemporary praises her. Only once I read a rather disturbed remark on her: GD Sergei didn't like that she too often visited dying Alexander III in Livadia - he thought it was unnecessary to bother the Tzar every day.

A mix could be good--ala A Lifelong Passion which mixed diary entries from several people to help fill in information. Dearest Missy does this somewhat as do the excellent books of letters of Queen Victoria and the Empress Frederick (and Empress Frederick Writes to Sophie). It helps to complete the picture.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Vecchiolarry on November 30, 2011, 05:28:46 PM
Hi,

Perhaps Queen Olga often visited Livadia in the last days of Alexander III to comfort Maria Feodorovna, and not intruding on the Czar himself so much.
Olga and Maria were sisters-in-law and very close friends after all.  Just my opinion - I don't know for sure....

Larry
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on November 30, 2011, 11:27:41 PM
Hi,

Perhaps Queen Olga often visited Livadia in the last days of Alexander III to comfort Maria Feodorovna, and not intruding on the Czar himself so much.
Olga and Maria were sisters-in-law and very close friends after all.  Just my opinion - I don't know for sure....

Larry

No, I meant Olga visited Alexander III, she and her mother persuaded him to send for Father Ioann of Kronstadt. GD Sergei didn't like that Olga went to the Tzar's rooms without Alexander III's personal invite, Sergei thought it was not polite.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Vecchiolarry on December 01, 2011, 01:38:17 PM
Hi Svetabel,

Thanks for clarifying that point about constant intrusions by Olga and her mother.  I see now what you meant....

I guess that even if you are Queen of Greece, you can't just barge in on the Czar of Russia!!!  Although, I can see Aunt Sanny doing it!!!
I wouldn't want to be the one to tell her she can't enter.....

Larry
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 01, 2011, 01:40:45 PM
Serge was also a cold fish on the point of formality. Olga was a foreign Queen, a cousin (member of the Romanov Family) and most importantly the sister-in-law of the Tsar. As Olga was more beloved in the family, so I don't think either Alexander III or his wife would mind. If you want impolite or presumptuous, it would be more of Miechen (Grand Duchess Marie Paulovna the elder)'s style.  
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on December 01, 2011, 02:08:39 PM
Serge was also a cold fish on the point of formality. Olga was a foreign Queen, a cousin (member of the Romanov Family) and most importantly the sister-in-law of the Tsar. As Olga was more beloved in the family, so I don't think either Alexander III or his wife would mind.

The point is not that Sergei was a cold fish or a hot fish but he thought that it's not polite to disturb a gravely-ill man very often. Not only he observed Olga's and Alexandra Iosifovna's visits to Alexander III, also one of the doctors, a surgeon Weliaminov didn't like those disturbing visits even from the close relatives. The dying Emperor needed a rest and instead he got a mob of agitated women who persuaded him - a man who wanted  a peace and rest -  send for a priest whom he didn't like. Alexander III never liked if someone wanted to manipulate him - had he been well he'd never let to disturb him with cries 'let's Father Ioann come here'. I think Sergei felt all this, and the case was not only in the formality.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on December 01, 2011, 03:05:58 PM
So very interesting, Svetabel! Thank you for sharing. I love insights into family dynamics.  :)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on December 02, 2011, 04:46:38 AM
So very interesting, Svetabel! Thank you for sharing. I love insights into family dynamics.  :)

Oh, those sad days in Livadia are worth a drama movie actually. So many interesting persons, feelings... and the Tzar whose death was a catastrophe not only for his family but for the whole Russia.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on December 02, 2011, 05:18:54 AM
Close up - one of my fave photo of Queen Olga

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/olgak.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on December 05, 2011, 01:28:22 PM
Queen Olga with her husband,daughter Marie, Alexandra of Wales and her 2 daughters. 1892 year.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/1892greekwale1ses.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 05, 2011, 04:55:39 PM
Yes. Victoria ("Toria") & Maud ("Harry"). Louise must be married and Alexandra of Greece had died the year before.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on January 17, 2012, 05:26:42 AM
Queen Olga

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/olga-1.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on January 17, 2012, 05:28:58 AM
King George and his children Nicolaos, Alexandra, Marie and Andrea. Corfu, 1888.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/corfu1888.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: po3a on January 18, 2012, 09:51:19 PM
I was wondering why Queen Olga got married so young?  Was it a love match? 
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: ashdean on January 19, 2012, 01:53:22 AM
I was wondering why Queen Olga got married so young?  Was it a love match? 
Very much so....Love at first sight !.George went tp Russia to see his sister and  fell for Olga.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on January 20, 2012, 11:54:03 AM
She also fit his requirements of an Orthodox bride very well. Since he was not Orthodox but ruling over a country that was, it was a major consideration. There weren't too many eligible princesses around. George got very lucky with Olga in terms of their compatability and her disposition.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: po3a on January 20, 2012, 04:19:24 PM
Glad to hear that it was a love match!  She was 16 when she married?  It seems so young---I wonder what affect marrying young had on her for the rest of her life?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 21, 2012, 02:11:18 PM
She wasn't too sophisticated or an intellectual like her brother KK.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Inok Nikolai on February 04, 2012, 11:50:40 PM
She also fit his requirements of an Orthodox bride very well. Since he was not Orthodox but ruling over a country that was, it was a major consideration. There weren't too many eligible princesses around. George got very lucky with Olga in terms of their compatability and her disposition.

My present comment would have made more sense in Part I of this thread, but that is now a stickey and locked.

In Part I the cemetery at the Greek summer palace of Tatoi comes up several times, such as here:
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=1278.msg29899#msg29899

I thought that you might be interested to read what Princess Vera Constantinovna wrote to us about her visit to Tatoi.

In her letter dated March 21 / April 5, 1986, she wrote:

"...Какъ мнѢ нравится Грецiя. Была тамъ разъ, съ паломниками послѢ Пасхи въ ІерусалимѢ. Во время полковниковъ. Устроила поѢздку въ Татой и вспомнила тетю Ольгу — сестру моего отца, королеву Еллиновъ. Мы ее любили какъ родную мать, святая была.
Помню разговоръ съ ней. Она сказала, что понимаетъ, что я люблю Россию, которую помню, но как я люблю флотъ — не понимаетъ, т. е., Русский Флотъ — ибо его не знаю... Да, все морское моё — атавизмъ отъ дѢда, Константина Николаевича..."

(English:)

"Oh how much I like Greece. I was there one time, with the pilgrims after Pascha in Jerusalem. During the time of the 'Colonels' [the Junta]. I arranged a trip to Tatoi and I remembered my Aunt Olga, my father's sister, the Queen of the Hellenes. We loved her like our very own mother; she was a saint.
I recall a conversation with her. She said that she could understand that I love Russia, which I can remember, but how I love the Navy — she does not understand, i.e., the Russian Navy, because I do not know it... Yes, everything naval is 'mine' — an atavism — from my grandfather, Constantine Nicholaevich."
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 05, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
Did Vera published her memoirs ?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Inok Nikolai on April 02, 2012, 09:09:33 PM
For those who might have missed it, Paul Gilbert's site now has a two-hour documentary film (in Russian) on Grand Duchess Olga Constantinovna, Queen of the Hellenes.

Even if you can't understand the Russian narration, the archival film footage and family photos are still worth seeing.

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ImperialRussian/blog/index.blog/1435374/grand-duchess-olga-konstantinovna-documentary/
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on April 04, 2012, 11:35:23 AM
Thank you for the link @Inok Nikolai, it seems very interesting!

Do we know why King George loved Aix-les-Bains so much? It seems the press in Greece frequently mentioned that the King was easier to find there than anywhere else! Also, I'm not sure if it was mentioned before but all documents relative to the King's assasination were destroyed in a fire on the ship meant to transport them from Salonica to Athens ... how very strange everything got lost very soon!
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 05, 2012, 09:42:49 AM
That is strange coincidence indeed.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on April 09, 2012, 02:51:46 PM
Do you think Olga still had posession in Russia after her marriage? Did she receive any money from her relatives?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 09, 2012, 03:18:51 PM
Every Grand Duke & Grand Duchess receive an allowance or appanage from the Tsar. Olga was no exception. That ended after the revolution.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on June 30, 2012, 10:58:00 AM
Quote
I prefer to be governed by a good lion been born that percent rates from my species

Could someone help me find a source for this quote of Queen Olga?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 30, 2012, 11:30:57 AM
Think it was from either the memoirs of her sons Nicholas or Christopher.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Sara Araújo on September 28, 2012, 11:35:50 AM
Olga with her daughter Maria:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img840/6207/dsc928316.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: QueenEna1887 on November 06, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Does anyone have a photo or sketch of King George and Queen Olga's wedding?
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 08, 2012, 02:04:32 AM
They are nice pictures. I haven't seen wedding pictures of Olga & George ever...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on November 08, 2012, 09:44:54 AM
We've frequently discussed the lack of photos of Romanov brides in general but particularly those from the earlier decades of photography. Most Romanov brides didn't seem to be photographed--I think the earliest we found was of Olga's sister-in-law Elizabeth. Perhaps because she wasn't Orthodox? I have no idea. Other than that, it's been sketches--even of the higher ranking brides like Marie Feodorovna (nee Dagmar). It was more the modern brides that were photographed in full regalia--Marie Pavlovna Jr and Helen Vladmirovna. Then the non-Grand Duchess brides like Irina. It just doesn't seem to have been the tradition.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 08, 2012, 09:53:12 AM
Like Hohenzollern brides too. I have not seen a wedding picture (apart from the one done for Irene of Hesse & Heinrich of Prussia) of Kronprinz Wilhelm and Cecile, Charlotte & Bernard, Victoria & Adolf...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on February 21, 2013, 01:44:28 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/QueenOlgaandgranddaughters_zps617027d1.jpg)
Queen Olga with most of her granddaughters. Princesses of Greece and Denmark & Princesses of Russia. 
back row, left to right: Princesses Elisabeth, Xenia, Olga, Theodora, Nina and Margarita.
middle row: Princesses Cecilie, Irene, Queen Olga and Princess Helen.
on floor: Princesses Catherine, Sophia and Marina.

Two of her granddaughters - Grand Duchess Maria of Russia and Princess Eugenie of Greece & Denmark are missing.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 21, 2013, 03:21:19 PM
Yes. Queen Olga left them jewelry in her will.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Dru on February 22, 2013, 06:36:21 PM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8252/8499379332_a8ee2be578_b.jpg)

Illustration of Grand Duchess Olga Konstantinovna.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 23, 2013, 01:18:01 PM
Based on a photo. I think she was 16 when she married right ? The photo/print was done around this period.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2013, 01:32:06 PM
Yes--since it still indicates her title as Grand Duchess of Russia and not Queen of the Hellenes.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 23, 2013, 01:59:43 PM
Indeed. She also made an impression on Queen Victoria, when she visited Windsor with her mother.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Vecchiolarry on March 08, 2013, 07:56:18 PM
Hi,

Coryne Hall has a wonderful article in "Majesty" magazine this month on George I.
He was assassinated on March 18th, 1913 - one hundred years ago.  And, this article commemorates that horrible event, as well as giving us the story of his life.

Larry
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 10, 2013, 01:15:10 AM
haven't gotten this month's Majesty yet. Always slower in USA. :-(
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on April 12, 2013, 04:05:08 PM
Indeed. She also made an impression on Queen Victoria, when she visited Windsor with her mother.

When would that be? Any references? I find it so very interesting!

http://www.real.gr/DefaultArthro.aspx?page=arthro&id=225000&catID=3 (http://www.real.gr/DefaultArthro.aspx?page=arthro&id=225000&catID=3)

The first modern olympic games, Athens 1896, in remake! We can see George and Olga, King and Queen of Greece at the time ...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 12, 2013, 08:00:55 PM
It was in Queen Victoria's letters and also in the book "The Grand Duchesses". The visit was in 1861 and Olga was only 10. Queen Victoroa marked her as a possible bride for her son Alfred, who married another grand duchess.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on June 09, 2013, 02:43:39 AM
(https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/593/z10360georgiospringipes.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photos/my-images/593/z10360georgiospringipes.jpg/)Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

I found this image in Facebook and the comment is that the princes are carrying King George's I coffin in Thessaloniki in 1913. Do you think we can recognize any of them? It seems to me the tall prince in the right could be young George (later King George II) but I wouldn't be sure.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on June 09, 2013, 10:23:43 AM
I have this card and I believe that it is  Prince Andrew on the right and either George II or Alexander I on the left.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 09, 2013, 05:53:34 PM
Behind Alexander I is Prince Nicholas I believe...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on August 26, 2013, 04:51:53 PM
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/561842olgarus.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=561842olgarus.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 26, 2013, 04:57:01 PM
She does have the face of a madonna...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: KarlandZita on September 28, 2013, 09:05:21 AM
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/992718queenolgagrce.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=992718queenolgagrce.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on June 15, 2014, 02:34:26 PM
In a TV documentary on the history of Tatoi on the NERIT (the new official public TV channel), it was mentioned that Queen Alexandra advised her brother King George I og Greece to abdicate and retire in England. It was the first time I heard something like that! Does anyone know something on this, perhaps? Had he accepted her offer his life would probably be safe and he would be a valuable advisor to hia son in the troubled times that were to follow the Balkan wars ...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: grandduchessella on June 15, 2014, 07:58:13 PM
I've seen it written in books that George I was planning to abdicate that year (1913) as it was the 50th year of his rule. He was going to turn the reigns over to Constantine when the war was over. Unfortunately, an assassin stopped that plan. I've never read that he would go to England though--I assumed it would be Denmark (where he kept property) with visits to his wife's home in Russia.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 15, 2014, 08:43:50 PM
Sad. he would have been a great help to his son...
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 30, 2014, 01:30:28 AM
King George I of Greece, King Christian IX, with Prince George on his arm and Crown Prince Constantin I - 4 generations
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fYcUmuhgNnI/UvyFfsZvkqI/AAAAAAAAKgQ/k6CWu-FUB6U/s1600/chr-ix-george-konstatin-george-4-gen.jpg)

George and Olga
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KQUPLU4r8OQ/Uo8gPl-dVjI/AAAAAAAAIfo/el9uyxbF_OM/s1600/gorgolgadegreece.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LLJwVEuf44Q/UskZH_SbUoI/AAAAAAAAJek/KIk0Dpv5eWs/s1600/gerogeandolga.jpg)

glucksburg.blogspot.com
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Svetabel on July 30, 2014, 02:15:00 AM


George and Olga




Not Olga. That's their daughter, Alexandra.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 30, 2014, 01:43:35 PM
Not Olga. That's their daughter, Alexandra.

I thought she looked a little too young to be Olga but the site had her listed as Olga. Alexandra really does look like her mom's mini-me.

Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 30, 2014, 08:34:16 PM
Queen Olga, Grand Duchess Alexandra Iosifovna, Grand Duchess Alexandra Georgievna, Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna - 4 generations

(http://www.royalbooks.se/static/webimages//cz11.jpg)

royalbooks.se
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Ekaterina2012 on November 21, 2014, 01:23:02 AM
Hello everyone! I am new to this site, so I am not sure how to post the reply properly.

Here: http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=1278.265;wap2 it is stated that king George I of Greece remained Lutheran throughout his life. That's an interesting question, because the Orthodox funeral service was served over him. I am Orthodox myself and for me it seems really strange, almost impossible, that an Orthodox funeral service would have been read over a non-Orthodox person. Probably only because he was a king in an Orthodox country and greatly loved by his Orthodox wife and his Orthodox subjects???
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 05, 2015, 07:37:06 AM
Wanted to post a picture but the link failed.... will come back later. Sorry, admins, feel free to delete this post.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 05, 2015, 09:19:40 AM
Here we go

Queen Olga with son Konstantin

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/408/444/73979825f0_100046158_o2.jpg)

Olga and her husband

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/439/053/faa6c3491a_100046178_o2.jpg)

I found both picture here (http://nezabudkalili.beon.ru/tag/%C2%E3%EB%FF%E4%E8%EC%F1%FF%20%E2%20%FD%F2%E8%20%EB%E8%F6%E0%252e%252e%252e/)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 07, 2015, 03:04:23 AM
Queen Olga never lost her look.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 11, 2015, 03:37:47 AM
Not a great likeness

(http://upyourpic.org/images/201405/xg7i22jkym.jpg)

http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/taniaum/post334417829/
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 11, 2015, 11:21:14 PM
Newspaper illustration.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Inok Nikolai on July 03, 2015, 10:31:29 AM

RE: The Russian-language DVD by V. Motsardo on Queen Olga of Greece (née Grand Duchess Olga Constantinovna) produced in 2006.

I also found it on YouTube:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmjnzO3myZ4

Perhaps this two-hour film has already been discussed here on the Forum, but I finally watched the DVD only recently. I thought that it was well done, and that it did a good job of resurrecting her memory for those in Russia. (It’s a pity that they didn’t put out a Greek or English version.) The film often cites the correspondence and diaries of Queen Olga, thus allowing the viewer to ‘hear her voice’.

Two episodes in the film revealed facts that I had not known before.

1)
In 1918, Prince George of Greece secretly made a trip to Russia in order to visit his mother, Queen Olga, who had remained there at the outbreak of WW I. (Queen Olga had tried to dissuade him from making the dangerous journey.) Prince George arrived on the eve of the Bolsheviks’ October coup d'etat. Being under the impression that the Russian Imperial family had been transferred to Moscow, Prince George traveled there from Petrograd. Once in Moscow, he discovered that they had actually been sent to Tobolsk. From Moscow he wrote to Queen Olga his observations on the horrors and destruction wrought by the Revolution. He thought of going to Tobolsk, but reconsidered, since the rumor was that the Imperial family would only be there temporarily, until they could be brought back to Moscow for a ‘trial’. He commented that it was impossible to know what to believe in the face of the many rumors and lies then circulating.

2)
Queen Olga of Greece and Dowager Empress Maria Feodorovna were sisters-in-law and close friends. After the Revolution, both being in exile, they continued their correspondence of many years. The film cites the text of a letter written to Queen Olga by the Dowager Empress in the 1920s, in which Maria Feodorovna states that if God wills that she should die there, i.e., abroad and in exile, then she “does not wish in any way that her remains be taken to that land where such crimes were committed against her loved ones”.

Of course, one could argue that when her remains were finally returned and buried next to those of Tsar Alexander III, the land was no longer the USSR, but Russia again — yet one wonders how she would have felt about it all…
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Post by: Ally Kumari on August 05, 2015, 04:11:19 AM
(http://cs624728.vk.me/v624728079/3ee73/cZtY5eIEISw.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 13, 2016, 02:57:27 AM
(https://pp.vk.me/c630431/v630431079/12cf4/O9vot09q-wg.jpg)
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Post by: Clemence on April 30, 2016, 03:41:30 AM
The Faberze eggs came to Tatoi, Greece, with Queen Olga, but noone knows if any of them are still in the country.

(from the ''Friends of the Tatoi estate'' Eastern e-mail)

Happy Orthodox Easter everyone!
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Post by: Clemence on August 30, 2016, 10:21:41 AM
http://www.stokokkino.gr/article/1000000000041436/THessaloniki-En-eti-2016-topotheteitai-agalma-tis-Bas-Olgas (http://www.stokokkino.gr/article/1000000000041436/THessaloniki-En-eti-2016-topotheteitai-agalma-tis-Bas-Olgas)

A statue of Queen Olga of Greece will be positioned in Thessalonika, as a present of a Russian Military - History Union. This in honour of the Russian - Greek frienship.
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Clemence on August 31, 2016, 12:42:29 AM
http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/96522.htm (http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/96522.htm)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Ally Kumari on November 17, 2016, 01:02:02 PM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/96c4549b105881e20dde484f696accb9/tumblr_ogr14aw7gT1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
Post by: Joanna on November 17, 2017, 10:20:13 AM
January meeting with Queen Olga - cold rooms! - Royal Palace, Athens Greece

Letters of Queen Olga

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2017/11/letters-of-queen-olga-from-royal-palace.html

Joanna