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Title: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: griffh on August 17, 2010, 04:08:47 PM
Does anyone have any information about Neskoutchnoe Palace? 
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: griffh on August 20, 2010, 08:11:11 AM
All I know is that the Palace became one of the Empress' three hospitals in Moscow during the Great War. 
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: Svetabel on August 20, 2010, 09:48:33 AM
If you mean Alexandrinskiy Palace at Neskutchnoe, then here it is in  1880-1890s:

http://www.oldmos.ru/photo/view/771 (http://www.oldmos.ru/photo/view/771)

Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: matushka on August 20, 2010, 11:49:22 PM
An historical article with some modern pictures. Howadays it belongs to the Academy of Sciences.
It was the main residence of Sergey Alexandrovich an Elisabeth Feodorovna when they were not at the Governor House on the Tverskoy Street. Most pictures of them are done there. They stayed here after SA released his post in 1905 but i was already too dangerous at those trouble times and they were asked to move to the Kremlin.
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: griffh on August 22, 2010, 05:28:17 PM
Oh gosh thank you all so much for the information.  Matushka that was so interesting about the Palace being the former residence of Ella and Sergei's and Svetabel thank you so much for supplying the proper name of the Palace.  That has really helped me with information I am using for my article of the Empress.  Thanks again.   
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: BobG on August 24, 2010, 09:51:27 AM
Here's a fairly recent photo of the palace:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/BobG_AP/Neskushnoye.jpg)

BobG
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: PAVLOV on August 25, 2010, 05:20:03 AM
Very attractive building, reminds me of Chateau de Groussay, quite  un Russian looking. Wonder what the inside looks like ?.
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: griffh on August 27, 2010, 10:42:34 AM
Thanks so much for the picture BobG.  The Palace has that wonderful Russian/neoclassic look and I believe it opens on to a square, so there must be an nice aesthetic distance from which to view it.  The other interesting fact about this Palace is that it was proposed as the permanent residence for the Tsar and Empress for the during the duration of the Great War.  It has a similar modesty that is characteristic of Alexander Palace in Tsarskoe Selo, but not the beauty or the country setting.  The proposal was soon abandoned and as I said the Palace became one of the Empress' three Moscow hopitals.  Matushka said that the building is part of the Academy of Sciences so I imagine the interior has been altered into classrooms, etc.  It's public rooms may possibly still maintain original architectural features, however, I suppose it depends also on what the other occupants of the buiding did to it.  However it is remarkable that all three of the Empress' hospitals, Petrovsky Palace, Poteshny Palace in the Kremlin, and Alexandrinskiy Palace at Neskutchnoe have all survived either destruction or Soviet renovations which was the apparent fate of many of the nine former Imperial residences in Moscow.   Thanks again for the information.   
 
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: ThomB on May 05, 2011, 08:38:05 AM
Scroll down linked page for pictures and floor plans...
http://townevolution.ru/books/item/f00/s00/z0000012/st005.shtml (http://townevolution.ru/books/item/f00/s00/z0000012/st005.shtml)
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: PAVLOV on May 10, 2011, 06:13:41 AM
Thanks for the pictures and the floorplan. I have just noticed that the balconies on the upper floor have been removed, returning the building to the original design. i thought the facade looked a bit "busy" but without the balconies it looks much better. i wonder who put them there in the first place ? Alexandra ? She was keen on balconies., so perhaps.
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: Janet Ashton on May 10, 2011, 03:50:31 PM
Thanks for the pictures and the floorplan. I have just noticed that the balconies on the upper floor have been removed, returning the building to the original design. i thought the facade looked a bit "busy" but without the balconies it looks much better. i wonder who put them there in the first place ? 

They were added in the 1830s, when Nicholas I had Evgraf Tiurin remodel the palace. You can see them on the photos from the 1880s in the article above.
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: Svetabel on December 22, 2011, 12:47:22 PM
Found these photos as the interiors of the Alexandria Palace in Neskouchnoe.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/5-1.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/4-1.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/3-1.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/2-1.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/1-2.png)

In the last photo there's a portrait in the wall. Interesting, is that Elizaveta F. or her sister Alexandra?
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: BobG on December 22, 2011, 09:37:33 PM
Is it possible the it might be Marie Feodorovna?   The photos show the same room with the bay windows decorated differently, so they are obviously over a period of time and may date from Alexander & Marie's reign.
BobG
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: Svetabel on December 29, 2011, 05:20:31 AM
Is it possible the it might be Marie Feodorovna?   The photos show the same room with the bay windows decorated differently, so they are obviously over a period of time and may date from Alexander & Marie's reign.
BobG

Actually I can't say exactly what period is in the photos...And the portrait is also a mystery as it's not seen clearly.
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: Joanna on October 19, 2016, 09:35:30 AM
Nicholas IIs Curiosity Alexander Palace in Moscow

http://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2016/10/nicholas-iis-curiosity-alexander-palace.html

I am stunned to realize I missed this topic. I do love Svetabel's photos and ThomB's link to the book and floor plans. I will do a follow up post on my blog with a link to this forum. I am currently blocked on Facebook until Oct 25th (typing too fast and too many groups DUH) but I want to link to here also with the fascinating posts. Thank you.

Joanna
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: gleb on October 22, 2016, 02:50:01 PM
Found these photos as the interiors of the Alexandria Palace in Neskouchnoe.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/5-1.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/4-1.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/3-1.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/2-1.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/1-2.png)


That's not Neskutchnoe palace. It's the Neues Palais in Darmstadt.
Look at the bow window room, at the gallery...
Besides the bow window room's photos are very interesting as they were taken in two different times.
the first apparently in Princess Alice's times (it resembles Osborne House so much!)
the second when the corner window was walled up.
Title: Re: Neskoutchnoe Palace
Post by: Joanna on October 23, 2016, 04:55:48 PM
Thanks Gleb. I will still update my blog with ThomB's link.

Joanna