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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Hohenzollern => Topic started by: Angie_H on December 31, 2004, 09:28:32 AM

Title: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Angie_H on December 31, 2004, 09:28:32 AM
This pic is listed on ebay as VICTORIA MARGARETHE of PRUSSIA. That's not Moretta is it?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/booboogbs/1907PssVICTORIAMARGARETHEofPRUSSIA2.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: bluetoria on December 31, 2004, 09:40:28 AM
I think this probably Victoria Margaret daughter of Frederick Leopold of Prussia and Louise Sophie of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg. She was born in 1890 and died 1923. She married Henry XXXIII Reuss of Kostritz.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Martyn on December 31, 2004, 09:45:08 AM
It doesn't look anything like Moretta - can't be her.  There is a picture in Massie's 'The Last Courts of Europe' of the Reuss wedding, I think, that might identify her.
She has a lovely face...........
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: bluetoria on December 31, 2004, 09:48:37 AM
It isn't Moretta - she is too young. Moretta doesn't look like that and would have been nearly 40 in 1907. I'm pretty sure it's Frederick Leopold's daughter.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on December 31, 2004, 09:58:20 AM
The girl is Princess Viktoria Margarethe of Prussia - I am pretty sure. Her pet-name in the family was "Agra" and her mother (in her memoirs) told about Agra with a great love. Poor princess was forced by Kaiser Wilhelm II to marry Prince von Reuss  :(
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on December 31, 2004, 02:08:22 PM
I've seen other images on ebay with this identified as Princess Victoria of Prussia and no other information so some believe it's Moretta. This has also been the case with Princess Irene of one of the lesser Hessian branches being confused with QV's granddaughter.

If the ID is correct, Victoria Margarethe (1890-1923). She was the daughter of Freidrich Leopold of Prussia. She married Heinrich XXXIII of Reuss in 1913 and they were divorced in 1922.  
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on December 31, 2004, 03:24:25 PM
I was searching around the web and found this photo:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/p0122b1.jpg)

The caption said:
Vermählung der Kaisertochter Viktoria Margarete mit Prinz Heinrich

Kaisertochter I'm guessing mean's Emperor/Kaiser's daughter. I couldn't match up an appropriate daughter with that name to a Prince Henry. Does anyone know who this is?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Annie on December 31, 2004, 04:22:53 PM
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I was searching around the web and found this photo:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/p0122b1.jpg)

The caption said:
Vermählung der Kaisertochter Viktoria Margarete mit Prinz Heinrich

Kaisertochter I'm guessing mean's Emperor/Kaiser's daughter. I couldn't match up an appropriate daughter with that name to a Prince Henry. Does anyone know who this is?


Oh dear Ella if you don't know we're in trouble. You're the expert :D ;)

Could it be Wilhelm's sister's wedding and not his daughter, if she didn't marry a Henry either, maybe it's a mislabeling mistake. It happens.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on December 31, 2004, 04:26:45 PM
Thanks for the compliment!  :) The only thing I can think is maybe it's the wedding of Princess Victoria Margaret (of the topic identification help) to Prince Henry of Reuss? She would've been a niece or such not a daughter, but maybe the same mistake we talked about in the other thread happened here as well. I was hoping I'd stumbled across something good since it came up during a search for Prince Henry of Prussia but it's obviously not his wedding to Irene (drat!) though it somewhat resembled him with the beard.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marlene on January 01, 2005, 12:31:09 AM
Obviously, when the compilers of the chronicle were not on their toes.  Both Viktoria Luise and Viktoria Margarete were married in May 1913, but VL was the Kaiser's daughter.   Agra  married Heinrich XXXIII Reuss on May 17 at Potsdam.  It was a marriage forced by the Kaiser, and it was an unhappy marriage that ended in di divorce.  The train was not the usual heavy silver cloth but "was made of a very light graceful material bordered with tiny bunches of myrtle and orange blossoms."  Agra's veil was Brussels' lace and she wore the Prinzessinkrone.

I have a dozen or so postcards of VM before marriage and during her marriage and with her husband ... and he doesn't have a beard.

VM's guard of honor was the First Foot Guards, as all three brothers served in that division.  

I don't think the photo is of VM.  She was married at the Neues Palais, so it is unlikely there were outside shots -- photos of German royal weddings (Prussian) from that time period were not largely not photographed for the media.  Maternally,  VM and VL were first cousins as their mothers were sisters.     VM's father, Friedrich Leopold, was the grandson of Prince Karl of Prussia,  Karl was the younger brother of Wilhelm I of Prussia (father of Friedrich III.)

VM's paternal first cousins included the Connaughts as their mother, Luise Margarete, was Friedrich Leopold's sister.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marlene on January 01, 2005, 12:33:42 AM

If the ID is correct, Victoria Margarethe (1890-1923). She was the daughter of Freidrich Leopold of Prussia. She married Heinrich XXXIII of Reuss in 1913 and they were divorced in 1922.  

It is Agra  - age 14 in 1904.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Martyn on January 01, 2005, 07:48:19 AM
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The girl is Princess Viktoria Margarethe of Prussia - I am pretty sure. Her pet-name in the family was "Agra" and her mother (in her memoirs) told about Agra with a great love. Poor princess was forced by Kaiser Wilhelm II to marry Prince von Reuss  :(


So her mother was Dona's sister, is that correct?  I have taken a look at the photo that I mentioned in the Massie and Finestone book which was taken at the wedding of Ferdinand of Bulgaria and Eleonore Reuss (Younger line) in 1908;this took place at Castle Oberstein, Gera and seems to show, in Massie's words 'the princely family of Reuss'.  I freely admit that I do not understand the workings of both of the Reuss branches; would it be likely for Victoria Margarethe to be at this wedding?
There is in fact a lady in the photograph that resembles a slightly older version of this princess... sadly Massie and Finestone do not attempt to identify all the people featured in the group shot (there must be at least thirty-five)....
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marlene on January 01, 2005, 10:08:13 AM
:48:19]

So her mother was Dona's sister, is that correct?

Yes. Luise Sophie was Dona's sister.  However,  VM would not have been at the Reuss wedding in 1908.  She was born in 1890 and did not marry until 1913 - it was an arranged marriage - insisted by the Kaiser despite VM's parental objections.  She had known Heinrich for all that long.

 I
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on February 05, 2005, 03:50:08 AM
I am calling for all the experts! ;) Need help!
This "very sharp picture"  :)  was listed on e-bay. Possibly someone has a better version and could post it? As it's a beautiful picture with many interesting royals. I can't recognize all the sitters...   I see the Saxe-Coburgs -  Karl Eduard at the far right next to his wife and their children sitting on the ground? I also see Prince-Regent of Bavaria - sitting in front of Karl Eduard? Are there Baby Bee (Beatrice of Coburg),Queen Ena of Spain,Infant Alfonso (spouse of Baby Bee) ?

Thanks in advance! :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/s.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on February 05, 2005, 11:26:54 AM
In the back row:
in the white hat it could be one of Victoria Adelheid's sisters, there's the Duchess of Albany and Infante Alfonso (husband of Baby Bee); another VA sister?, Duke Carl Edward

next to VA that is Baby Bee

I know this is in some book with a photo ID and I can't remember which one. It's one of the photo books.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on February 05, 2005, 01:06:51 PM
Thank you,Courtney! I can always count on you! :)
Do you have any idea about 2 men at the far left?  Saxe-Coburgs?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on February 05, 2005, 07:00:10 PM
The older man--Philip of Coburg? The young Albert of Schleswig-Holstein? He would've been related to not just Charlie but also Victoria Adelheid (born a princess of S-H) and he was living in Germany by then I think. I think he was too balding though.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: PrinceEddy1864 on February 05, 2005, 07:24:07 PM
This is a really interesting photo Sveta. I guess it was taken at Calma's christening? Does anyone have any idea why Baby Bee was there? Also I dont think that is Albert on the far left but I cant tell who it is.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on February 05, 2005, 09:38:23 PM
Baby Bee had been raised in Coburg a good part of her life (unlike her sisters) and had probably known Charles Edward very well as he prepared to take over the Dukedom. I have seen her in other Coburg photos (once CE had become ruler) so she seems to have maintained her connections there.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on February 05, 2005, 11:38:23 PM
OK, I've squinted until I'm cross-eyed and gone through relative lists and here's what I think:

back row: Prince Albert of S-Holstein (NOT Helena's son), Caroline Mathilde of S-Holstein (sister of VA--the youngest and still unmarried), Duchess of Albany, Infante Alfonso,  ?? (I don't know if she's royal or not--she didn't look familiar and I couldn't place her in any pertinent age group), Duke Charles Edward

front: Philip of Coburg (husband of Louise of Belgium whom we were discussing in another thread), ?? could be married to Albert or be another female relative but not one of VA's sisters, VA with Caroline Mathilde (named after her sister I guess!), Baby Bee, Ludwig of Bavaria (last King of Bavaria though he was just Regent then--wonder if he was a godfather?)

children: 3 eldest of CE & VA (Hubertus, Sibylla later Crown Princess of Sweden, Johann Leopold)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on February 06, 2005, 05:39:52 AM
I guess Prince Albert (1863-1948  ) is that Albert - Uncle of VA? But it seems a man behind Prince Philipp looks much younger   ???

Anyway thank you again,Courtney! :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on February 06, 2005, 11:52:31 AM
I don't know, I could be wrong, but being in early-mid 40s seem okay to me. I looks like he has grayish hair (in contrast with the darker mustache).  
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on February 10, 2005, 06:32:41 PM
Sort of along the other group ID pictures, does someone know all the members of this group?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/empressfrederick/hohenzollern/PV0021961.jpg)

In the front I can spot Empress Augusta and Emperor Wilhelm I (is that his sister Alexandrine of Mecklenberg-Schwerin next to him in the widow weeds?). Also next to Wilhelm, it looks like perhaps Mossy and Sophie then Henry. In the group behind Wilhelm I—Fritz & Vicky with Wilhelm, Dona and their first 3 children, Moretta behind Dona, Bernard, Charlotte & Feodore at the far right back. Next to Fritz, his niece Victoria of Baden and her husband Gustav of Sweden. Other than that I don’t know. It had to be around 1885-6 since Wilhelm's still alive but Willy & Dona just have the 3 children it seems.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: HerrKaiser on February 11, 2005, 10:06:42 AM
Great photo Grandduchess! Is that Ernst of Hesse on the far left with his hand on his hip? Also, the man seated to the right WI and his sister looks alot like Fritz, but I cannot figure who he is.

This photo seems to me to be a graphic reflection of how Fritz and Vicky were backgrounded. Why would the Crown Prince and his wife not be front and center in such a photo? And, Vicky's dress is ever so drab and common. I think this indicates how much they were relegated to the background. Too bad old Willy #1 did not abdicate or not be so healthy!

Do you know the location? It doesn't look like anything at Potsdam that I have seen.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on February 11, 2005, 11:41:31 AM
It seems to be one of those faux family shots--just a bunch of different photos cobbled together. I've seen the photo of Vicky (or a very similar one) before, also the one of Wilhelm II and his clan. These were very popular with larger families--I've seen ones with QV and her huge clan and also with the Romanovs. It sometimes actually helps with the IDs since you can recognize photos from separate sittings.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: PrinceEddy1864 on February 11, 2005, 12:02:02 PM
Victoria of Baden (Sweden's) father Friedrich I is seated in front of Gustav V holding hios grandson Oskar.

Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: HerrKaiser on February 11, 2005, 02:34:30 PM
Ah, so they had MS Photo Editor back then. :)

Babelsburg Castle, yes indeed. Thanks Thomas. Was this the 'residence' of Auguste because she couldn't stand her husband? Who resided there once she died?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: HerrKaiser on February 11, 2005, 02:36:40 PM
Could that be Bismarck seated in the middle?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: PrinceEddy1864 on February 11, 2005, 03:57:09 PM
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Could that be Bismarck seated in the middle?


That is Wilhelm I in the middle.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: HerrKaiser on February 11, 2005, 07:46:24 PM
I was meaning the man two people to WI's right.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: PrinceEddy1864 on February 12, 2005, 11:01:12 AM
That is Friedrich I of Baden holding his grandson Oskar or Sweden. That is the man you thought looked like Fritz earlier (which he does look like Fritz alot.)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on March 07, 2005, 04:59:12 PM
GDElla,you are right!It might be her!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eurohistory on March 07, 2005, 09:30:07 PM
A good resemblance indeed...but a small correction...it is not Fürst of Hohenzollern-Hechingern - but Fürst of Hohenzollern-Hechingen and the branch is now extinct.

Arturo Beéche
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on March 07, 2005, 09:31:23 PM
Sorry--I'd never even heard of it so I relied on the site and the trusty cut & paste.  :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Mia on March 21, 2005, 07:47:26 AM
This was really fun to read.

I remember that my mother has had since early 1970s a cheap base metal brooch with the same picture as the portrait above, with the small exception that the pink dress is pale blue. I never new who the lady in the picture was until now. Thank you!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 02, 2005, 05:17:55 PM
I was wondering can anyone tell me more about Duchess Hermine von Wuerttemberg,born Princess von Schaumburg-Lippe or Duchess Henriette von Wuerttemberg,born Princess von Nassau-Weilburg?I took their paintings from worldroots.com to post and would be gratefull if someone has them and can post them in colour?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: royal_netherlands on March 17, 2006, 08:24:59 AM
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/opzich/wenn_31.jpg)
This one maybe?

royal netherlands
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on March 17, 2006, 09:21:40 AM
There was also this one

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/germany/g13x003.jpg)

There were at least 3 poses from the sitting with different groupings of the family and then individual photos.

The photos taken that have Sigi in them were used to create (by von Angeli maybe) a portrait of him to be given to QV after his death.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Elizabeth_Leona on March 17, 2006, 10:13:31 AM
is there a chance that portrait maybe floating around the internet?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on March 17, 2006, 11:09:06 AM
I haven't seen it online.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on March 18, 2006, 09:18:53 PM
Are there ANY pics of Duchess Anna Mathilde Elisabeth Alexandrine von Mecklenburg-Schwerin, half sister of Grand Duchess Valdimir of Russia? please!! thank you.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on March 18, 2006, 11:42:08 PM
Are you sure of the name? The 2 sisters I found are a mix of the 2 names:

Anne Elisabeth Auguste Alexandrine (1865-1882)

Elisabeth Alexandrine Mathilde Auguste (1869- 1955); m.1896 Friedrich August, Grand Duke of Oldenburg
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on March 19, 2006, 02:12:22 PM
The edest half sister, Anna, the daughter of Fredrich and Anna of Hesse. she was the only child of her mother and her father in his second marriage.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on March 21, 2006, 12:38:16 AM
For some reason I thought I had a picture of Anna. :-/
And it appears I have only pic of her father and mother together. :(
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on April 08, 2006, 02:55:41 PM
Hi,I found this painting whose title was:''Royal lady in mourning with her son''I was wondering who could this be...maybe Helena von Waldeck und Pyrmont(Albany)?Anyone?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on April 09, 2006, 10:13:33 AM
The style of her dress is of the 1860s, so the lady is definetely not Helena of Albany.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on April 09, 2006, 11:53:27 AM
Thank you Sveta,so one is off...Have someone else in mind who lost her husband and had a son at that time-I mean 1860-ies?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on April 09, 2006, 12:19:49 PM
Yes, definitely not the Duchess of Albany. Her son was born posthumously so if she was going to do a portrait like that, Charlie wouldn't have been painted at that age. Since it's titled '...in mourning' I would guess that whatever age the son is, it was shortly before then that she was widowed. Is it a Winterhalter? Perhaps that might help with the identification.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: dboro on June 24, 2006, 05:46:49 AM
#1: Arpad Feszty: The coronation of Queen Elisabeth. Now it's on display in Betliar Castle, Slovakia. Here's a rather bad photo (I'll try to find a better one)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/mbe_snm117.jpg)
Anyhow, I find this painting a very ugly one.

# 3: painting by Eduard Swoboda (Keresztény Muzeum, Esztergom, Hungary). It's reproduced in many Hungarian publications, I'll try to scan it, but still don't know when :-(
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Kaiserin Sissi on June 24, 2006, 07:32:36 AM
Thans very much dboro for this picture an thank you by advance for searching one better, it's very kind.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: José on October 30, 2006, 02:06:01 PM
I am calling for all the experts! ;) Need help!
This "very sharp picture"  :)  was listed on e-bay. Possibly someone has a better version and could post it? As it's a beautiful picture with many interesting royals. I can't recognize all the sitters...   I see the Saxe-Coburgs -  Karl Eduard at the far right next to his wife and their children sitting on the ground? I also see Prince-Regent of Bavaria - sitting in front of Karl Eduard? Are there Baby Bee (Beatrice of Coburg),Queen Ena of Spain,Infant Alfonso (spouse of Baby Bee) ?

Thanks in advance! :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/s.jpg)

On another thread I got these ID:  Carl-Eduard with his spouse Princess Viktoria von Schleswig-Holstein-Gluecksburg 1885-1970 and their children Pr Hubertus, Pss Sybille, Her. Pri Johann-Leopold      standing Pr Albert of Schleswig-Holstein-S.G. and Pss Karoline Mathlde, Dss of Albany, Pr Alphons of Bourbon-Orleans, Freiin von Thuena, Dk Carl Eduard of S.C.Gotha,
in the middle sitting: Pr Philipp of Sx-Cob-Gotha, Pss Albert zu Schleswig-Holstein-S.G. Dss Victoria Adelheid of Sx-Cob-Gotha with the christened child Pss Karoline Mathilde of Sx.Cob.Gotha, Pss. Alphons of Bourbon-Orleans, Prince Ludwig of Bavaria                 

Who would be the Freiin von Thuenna ?                                                                                                                                     
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: TampaBay on November 04, 2006, 06:18:52 AM
Who is "Pss Karoline Mathlde, Dss of Albany".  I thought the last Princess of Albany was Alice, sister-in-law of Queen Mary.

TampaBay

 
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on November 04, 2006, 09:55:44 AM
Who is "Pss Karoline Mathlde, Dss of Albany".  I thought the last Princess of Albany was Alice, sister-in-law of Queen Mary.

TampaBay

 

I guess Jose meant 2 different persons - Prss Karoline Mathilde,sister of Duchess of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. And Duchess of Albany. They stand side by side in the picture.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Kaiserin Sissi on January 31, 2007, 12:29:19 PM
#1: Arpad Feszty: The coronation of Queen Elisabeth. Now it's on display in Betliar Castle, Slovakia. Here's a rather bad photo (I'll try to find a better one

Dboro, have find a better photo ?  :(
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Duke of New Jersey on May 12, 2007, 06:13:11 PM
In Response to Post # 151:

Are Austro-Hungarian Empresses crowned as Austrian Empress, Queen of ungary AND Queen of Bohemia?  So, are there three coronations?

This question may sound stupid but I really don't know much about Empress Elizabeth so I am trying to learn all I can.

-Duke of NJ
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Greenowl on May 13, 2007, 05:25:43 AM
Austria-Hungary did not exist in that form until after the "Ausgleich" of 1867. Thus Elisabeth was crowned Queen of Hungary in Budapest on 08th. June, 1867 and Zita in December 1916. As far as I know, there was no separate coronation in Prague...the Crown of Bohemia was part of the Austrian coronation ceremony. By the way, should this question not be moved to the Habsburg section????
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Duke of New Jersey on May 13, 2007, 07:41:32 AM
Thank you for the answer.  Feel free to delete the post if it is the wrong place.

-Duke of NJ
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: José on May 13, 2007, 12:24:41 PM
I am calling for all the experts! ;) Need help!
This "very sharp picture"  :)  was listed on e-bay. Possibly someone has a better version and could post it? As it's a beautiful picture with many interesting royals. I can't recognize all the sitters...   I see the Saxe-Coburgs -  Karl Eduard at the far right next to his wife and their children sitting on the ground? I also see Prince-Regent of Bavaria - sitting in front of Karl Eduard? Are there Baby Bee (Beatrice of Coburg),Queen Ena of Spain,Infant Alfonso (spouse of Baby Bee) ?

Thanks in advance! :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/s.jpg)

On another thread I got these ID:  Carl-Eduard with his spouse Princess Viktoria von Schleswig-Holstein-Gluecksburg 1885-1970 and their children Pr Hubertus, Pss Sybille, Her. Pri Johann-Leopold      standing Pr Albert of Schleswig-Holstein-S.G. and Pss Karoline Mathlde, Dss of Albany, Pr Alphons of Bourbon-Orleans, Freiin von Thuena, Dk Carl Eduard of S.C.Gotha,
in the middle sitting: Pr Philipp of Sx-Cob-Gotha, Pss Albert zu Schleswig-Holstein-S.G. Dss Victoria Adelheid of Sx-Cob-Gotha with the christened child Pss Karoline Mathilde of Sx.Cob.Gotha, Pss. Alphons of Bourbon-Orleans, Prince Ludwig of Bavaria                 

Who would be the Freiin von Thuenna ?                                                                                                                                     

Does anybodu know anythuing about this Freiin von Thuenna ? A lady-in-waiting or a friend of the family ?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: José on May 30, 2007, 08:53:11 AM
Still no news about Freiin Thuenna  :-\ ?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on August 14, 2007, 07:39:50 AM
By the way, does anyone have  info on Duchess Wilhelmine of Wuerttemberg (1844-92), daughter of Duke Eugen and  Princess Mathilde  zu Schaumburg-Lippe ? Duchess Wilhelmine was spouse of her relative Duke Nicolaus of Wuerttemberg (1833-1903), the couple was childless. Any info and pictures are very welcome. :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on August 31, 2007, 07:01:08 PM
Hi,I found in Zeller auction this portrait by Swedinsh painter Johan Hall!It lloks like this could be Josephine von Leuchtenberg wearing a swedish black court robe,but I am not sure!This tiara is very similar to the one Queen Viktoria of Sweden-Baden had and since I don't know much about tiara provenances I would like some help of our experts :-) in order to solve who this lady could be?
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Swedendo1830.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on August 31, 2007, 07:03:45 PM
Those 2 tiaras are very similar or I am a bit wrong?
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/VicBaden.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on September 03, 2007, 11:26:15 AM
Yes, the tiaras look similar but I think they are different in fact...The lady itself has a slight resemblance to Queen Josephine though I am not sure.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: HerrKaiser on September 03, 2007, 03:18:59 PM
Those 2 tiaras are very similar or I am a bit wrong?
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/VicBaden.jpg)


Wow. Could Joan Crawford play her or what? Quite a resemblance.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on September 04, 2007, 02:46:48 PM
Thank you for the opinions because I was really wondering who could it be....!And Joan Croford :-) of course!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Adagietto on October 08, 2007, 01:06:26 PM
A postcard showing a bridal carriage, evidently part of a series; I have it marked down as being connected with the wedding of Prince and Princess August Wilhelm, but I am not certain about that. Does anyone know?

(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/linschoten/Royal/aw.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 22, 2007, 01:24:19 AM
Looks like Auwi's bride... :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Adagietto on November 10, 2007, 12:10:37 PM
An interesting postcard which was sent to Prince Waldemar of Prussia, the eldest son of Prince Heinrich. It must have been written either by his father ot his mother; can anyone please identify the handwriting? Heinrich can be seen on the card with his brother at an occasion which must have had a special significance for him, the induction into the navy of Adalbert, the only one the Kaiser's sons to enter that service. It would be nice to know if the card was actually sent at the time of that event, and if Waldemar was prevented by the illness that is mentioned in it from attending.The card is dated May 20th 1901; does anyone know if Adalbert entered the navy at that time? Also, I cannot decipher the whole of the final sentence ('Please send me xxxx and a card"). Your help on any of these points would be much appreciated.

(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/linschoten/Royal/ad1.jpg)

(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/linschoten/Royal/ad2.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 11, 2007, 08:01:51 PM
Tough but I guess it can be done.  ???
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on November 12, 2007, 12:01:28 PM
Are we sure it was sent to Waldemar? It's odd that the writing would be in English.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Adagietto on November 12, 2007, 01:53:28 PM
Yes, it is certainly addressed to Waldemar and the address and cancellations are consistent with that; and it comes from an Adelnachlass containing other material deriving from royal sources. It was not unusual for members of the Imperial family to talk or write to one another in English; and on a postcard that might provide an element of privacy.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on January 20, 2008, 08:19:55 AM
Hi,I found this painting in Super stock by Johann Tischbein...It is said that it is Princess von Anhalt in 1770...

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/PrAnh-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on January 20, 2008, 08:23:44 AM
Who could this be?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on January 21, 2008, 12:33:21 AM
Hi,I found this painting in Super stock by Johann Tischbein...It is said that it is Princess von Anhalt in 1770...

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/PrAnh-1.jpg)

Possibly Furstin Friederike von Anhalt-Zerbst (1744-1827), nee Princess of Anhalt-Bernburg, spouse of Furst Friedrih August von Anhalt-Zerbst (brother of the Empress Catherine II).
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 21, 2008, 06:13:41 AM
Good guess...But has more portraits of Frederike survive ?  ???
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on January 21, 2008, 02:28:41 PM
Yes,Sveta,I thought of her as well...but with so many branches you have more choices..It could also be:
-Luise Henriette Wilhelmine, Margravine of Brandenburg-Schwedt,later Princess von Anhalt-Dessau,lived from 1750-1811
-Luise of Schleswig-Holstein-Glücksburg,later Princess von anhalt-Koethen,lived from1749-1812
- Luise von Stolberg-Wernigerode,later Princess von Anhalt-Koethen,lived from 1744-1784

Those are the ones that had lived at that time...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on January 21, 2008, 02:48:11 PM
A postcard showing a bridal carriage, evidently part of a series; I have it marked down as being connected with the wedding of Prince and Princess August Wilhelm, but I am not certain about that. Does anyone know?

(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/linschoten/Royal/aw.jpg)


I have the image from a magazine of the time and it was Cecile's wedding carriage.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Princess Jil on March 07, 2008, 11:12:05 AM
I am having problems trying to find out how to link a photo I have on Photobucket to this link.  I have a postcard photo that I need to show you in order to get some info on it.  It seems that everytime I click on the "IMG" part of the address it says "Copied to Clickboard".  What is "clickboard"?????  I can not seem to get any help on this problem from the "Help" part of Photobucket.  I so much want to show you a postcard that I have of the Kaiserin of Germany at a train station with a group of people.  I want someone to help me with the German language on the postcard.  It shows the Kaiserin talking with some women.   There are also some children there in the group along with two men.  They seem to be waiting for a train to come to take them away to somewhere safe. The time period is that of WWI. The Kaiserin has a Red Cross band around her arm.   It is quite an interesting photo taken inside a train station in Germany. The postcard says:

"Beratung alleinreisender junger Madehen durch die Bahnhofsmission"

The back of the postcard has the following in German:

"Ierein (or "Serein"or "Berein"-I can't read the old type of German printing) Wohlfahrts der weibl, Jugend unter dem Protectorat, Ihrer Majestat der Kaiserin".

*I am thinking that perhaps some form of money went to aid young children or women when this postcard was bought or sent.  The back of the postcard mentions something about "10pf" (which I assume is some form of German money).

***Can anyone help me?  As soon as I figure out how to link my photo to this site--then I will show you the photo on the postcard.  I really don't understand why it is so hard to get a photo on this site!  I don't seem to have any sort of "paste and copy" system on my computer.  I really hope someone can help me soon!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Adagietto on March 22, 2008, 12:29:16 PM
1. Go to Photobucket and copy the Direct Link (2nd down) for the image you want to copy. Just double-click on the link and it will say 'copied'.

2. Click the second button from the left in the second row above the posting box. THat will call up two sets of 'img' in square brackets.

3. Right click between the two sets of square brackets and click 'paste' to insert the link that you have copied. (It is important that you get it in the right place between the two sets of brackets.

4. And when you press post, the image should appear. It is inconceivable that you don't have a copy and paste system on your computer. What you copy is stored on your clipboard until you paste it. (I think that's right, I'm a complete ignoramus about computers! But even I can work the picture system here.)

The card refers to guidance/ advice that is offered by the Traveller's Aid to young girls who are travelling alone. On the back it says Society (Verein) for the Welfare of Young Women (literally female youth) under the patronage of Her Majesty the Empress. I'm afraid I don't anything about this organization. Do try to post the picture, it would be interesting to see it. If it doesn't work, we'll probably be able to discover why.


P.S. thank you granduchessella for the information about the carriage.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: mardam on March 23, 2008, 07:38:18 AM
This is Carl of Mecklenburg-Strelitz. But I found him as Carl 1708-1752 en as Carl 1741-1816
Does anybody know which one it is?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/mardam/carl.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: mardam on March 23, 2008, 07:41:40 AM
The mother is Friederike of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, born Hessen-Harmstadt, spouse of Carl II 1741-1816.
But who is the child?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/mardam/friederikechild.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on March 24, 2008, 07:29:38 AM
I think that this is Charles II in the first picture...by what he wears and by other portraits seen of him!Although,not 100% sure!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Yseult on June 25, 2008, 04:03:06 PM
Hello
Searching through ebay I have found a cdv of a "Princess Hohenzollern". The picture was taken by Levitsky. Anyone of you knows who was the woman?

(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm243/Gallaeciafulget/PrincessHohenzollernLevitsky.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on June 25, 2008, 04:21:48 PM
It's Antonia of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen. She was born an Infanta of Portugal and married Leopold of H-S. Their son Ferdinand became King of Romania while a granddaughter, Augusta Victoria, became Queen (in exile) of her grandmother's native Portugal. I think she and Leopold have a thread here somewhere.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Yseult on June 25, 2008, 04:34:16 PM
Wowwww...thanks, Granduchessella -ultimately I spent a good deal of time giving you my thanks ;) I never had seen such a picture of Antonia, as a young woman. I think her grand-daughter Lisabetta has a great resemblance with her, by the way.

Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eurohistory on June 26, 2008, 09:32:26 AM
Indeed it is Maria Antonia of Portugal, daughter of Queen Maria II and King Consort Ferdinand (né Saxe-Coburg & Gotha [Kohary Line]).

Arturo Beéche
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 30, 2008, 12:25:07 PM
I think one of the best known one of her as a young woman.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Bourgogne on August 12, 2008, 05:40:44 AM
This is Carl of Mecklenburg-Strelitz. But I found him as Carl 1708-1752 en as Carl 1741-1816
Does anybody know which one it is?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/mardam/carl.jpg)

It can only be Carl 1741-1816. The suit and especially the hair-style are obviously those of 1780-1790...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 13, 2008, 12:58:39 PM
Question:

Is it there more pictures of Cecilie as a little girl and pictures of a younger Prince Heinrich von preussen? . I ve been looking for those kind of pictures everywhere and i cant find em
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 13, 2008, 01:28:20 PM
Quite a lot of Cecile as a girl as postcards. The hard one to find is of her as a baby and Alexandrine as a little girl....
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on September 13, 2008, 01:47:01 PM
There are several of Alexandrine as a little girl, many on the site--or at least there used to be. As for Cecile--have you checked her thread?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 13, 2008, 01:54:02 PM
Yes , i checked her thread and i just find one with her mother, all dressed in white with a parasol in her hand. About Heinrich, nothing, just pictures of him in his fifties and with his family

Ps: Those postcard of Kronprinzessin Cecilie are in her thread? Cause, if they are..i totally missed em !
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 13, 2008, 02:20:54 PM
Few of Alexandrine as a young girl. The ones I see her hair was already up.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 14, 2008, 09:06:58 AM
I just realized there s a misunderstood about my request :P. Im looking for childhood pictures of Duchess Cecilie of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, not her daughters.


Sorry about that. I didnt explain well what i wanted 
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on September 14, 2008, 08:24:14 PM
You might want to post the query in Cecile's thread where more people might see it. These help threads are predominantly for help ID'ing a photo and the like so that we don't have thread upon thread of 'Who is in this photo?'. People who are interested in Cecile might see the question in her thread and perhaps be able to supply some photos. I have one of her as a toddler in a carriage I bought from ebay--I don't know if that's one of the ones you've seen.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 15, 2008, 10:02:54 AM
No i havent seen that picture. I just saw one with her mother when she s wearing in white with a parasol in her hand and the one in Christian X wedding.


I ll ask in her thread, to see if someone s help me. Same thing i ll do with Heinrich`s pictures   ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 15, 2008, 01:33:54 PM
I think Heinrich was much photographed because Vicky was very much into her family and does photos, paintings and even sketches of her children...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Gabriella on September 16, 2008, 03:19:31 PM
This is Carl of Mecklenburg-Strelitz. But I found him as Carl 1708-1752 en as Carl 1741-1816
Does anybody know which one it is?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/mardam/carl.jpg)

It can only be Carl 1741-1816. The suit and especially the hair-style are obviously those of 1780-1790...

Is this Carl of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, the father of Queen Louise of Prussia?

Regards, Gabriella.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Bourgogne on September 16, 2008, 05:00:21 PM


Is this Carl of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, the father of Queen Louise of Prussia?

Regards, Gabriella.

Yes, indeed, he's the father of Queen Louise of Prussia. By the way, he's got the same face on his other portraits, with this a bit large "turned-up" nose.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Bourgogne on September 17, 2008, 08:55:03 PM
Glad Luise did not look like her father...

That's what I was thinking too! But he was not bad when he was young. And actually, she had a little something of him... when he was young!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 18, 2008, 03:24:44 PM
Do you have a portrait of him when he was young.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Bourgogne on September 18, 2008, 08:30:48 PM
Do you have a portrait of him when he was young.

Here you are! He's quite good looking here.

And look, on this portrait you understand where Louise did get her "mischievous" face from, don't you?

(http://sitesweb.dnsalias.net/images/Sn/CharlesIImeckstrelitz.JPG)

Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 19, 2008, 01:34:03 PM
Wonder if a colour copy exists ? We can see his fresh coloring as well.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Bourgogne on September 19, 2008, 03:40:31 PM
Wonder if a colour copy exists ? We can see his fresh coloring as well.

I've never seen this picture in colour, I just know this black and white photography. It's a portrait of Ziesenis, kept in Berlin but I don't know exactly where... Stadt Schloss, probably.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Russka Princess on November 18, 2008, 06:38:00 AM
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t154/rorykiss/Unbenannt-2.jpg)

who is on this pic ???i mean the womans , the woman on the right side it seems like Irene of Prussia or ?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: royaltybuff on November 18, 2008, 07:28:47 AM
I recognize Marie of Romania (Edinburgh/Coburg) seated to the right in the light dress. Her husband, Ferdinand is standing behind the seated man. I can't see enough of the face of the woman standing on the far right to tell if it is Irene of Prussia.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 18, 2008, 07:46:26 AM
I don't think it was Irene of Prussia.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Russka Princess on November 18, 2008, 08:04:02 AM
yeah on this pic the woman have bumpy  full hair, what Irene o Prussia didnt has, i think she has straight hair. or ?

On the side she did like Irene o Prussia cause of her nose and hair.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 18, 2008, 08:05:38 AM
Yep. I am pretty sure it was not here.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on November 25, 2008, 10:10:06 AM
I found on Beyar portrait of ''Prinzessin von Preussen'' by Anton Klamroth but it does not say who could it be:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Preussen.jpg)

So,does anyone have the clue who is this?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 25, 2008, 10:14:15 AM
It could be Charlotte, but I am not sure.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on November 25, 2008, 12:37:05 PM
It could be Charlotte, but I am not sure.

That could not be Charlotte as Anton Klamroth lived in 1860-1929 years...so...Viktoria Luise, born in 1892? Viktoria Margrarethe, born in 1890?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Adagietto on November 25, 2008, 01:40:33 PM
It's not VL; although I have not seen any pictures of Victoria Margarethe as a child, the lips and eyes in this portrait look quite similar to hers in later life, so that seems quite a plausible suggestion.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: HerrKaiser on November 25, 2008, 03:28:44 PM
judging from the hat and similar look to siblings, could it be Princess Cecilie, daughter of the crown princess cecilie and crown prince Wilhelm?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on November 25, 2008, 04:05:55 PM
I found on Beyar portrait of ''Prinzessin von Preussen'' by Anton Klamroth but it does not say who could it be:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Preussen.jpg)

So,does anyone have the clue who is this?

Yes,it does look a bit like Victoria Margarethe judging from her pictures...just I am not sure...Svetabel is right,it can be a confusing thing that Anton Klamroth lived in Meiningen...but don't know...if anyone can guess-thanks!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on November 25, 2008, 04:08:34 PM
The portrait is from the second half of 19th century...Anton Klamroth lived in Meiningen from 1890-1892,later he worked in Leipzig and later for Prince Adalbert von Preussen.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on November 25, 2008, 05:11:16 PM
Well,I would say that the sitter is Viktoria Margarethe...it looks almost like her,the shape of her face,a bit melancholic expression etc.,but I am not 100% sure...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: gogm on March 17, 2009, 07:58:04 PM
Does anyone have an idea where these pictures of the Empress Frederick/Princess Royal Victoria come from and/or the dates they were made?

(http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/42684/2200177090094285158S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2200177090094285158muIrnz)

(http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/41320/2913852400094285158S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2913852400094285158GgPfDG)

(http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/19530/2187221860094285158S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2187221860094285158AZYovI)

(http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/43683/2754777040094285158S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2754777040094285158pScyAQ)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on March 17, 2009, 08:08:17 PM
The 2nd one is actually Dona. The first looks like the late 1870s while the last looks like the mid-to-late 1860s. The etching would've been done within a few years of marriage.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on March 18, 2009, 04:56:41 AM
The first looks like the late 1870s while the last looks like the mid-to-late 1860s. The etching would've been done within a few years of marriage.

I think the last is of 1865/66 when Victoria was pregnant with Moretta.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 18, 2009, 03:33:15 PM
She did look pregnant, muffs and shawls were often used to cover up in photos.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Adagietto on March 19, 2009, 11:50:09 AM
(http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/41201/2821349020100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

Can anyone tell me what this refers to? Oskar's installation as the head of the Order of St John perhaps? Presumably not the confirmation of Oskar jr. because he would have been distinguished from his father, and Konfirmation would have been more likely than Einsegnung in that connection (?).
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 11, 2009, 12:31:05 PM
I wonder who  this lovely lady is. It sais MArie Von Mecklenburg-Schwerin, but it doesnt look like miechen. Help please!!

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8839/alexandrahannover18821.jpg)


Thanks in advanced!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on April 12, 2009, 03:09:42 AM
I wonder who  this lovely lady is. It sais MArie Von Mecklenburg-Schwerin, but it doesnt look like miechen. Help please!!



Thanks in advanced!

That's Grand Duchess Marie of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (born Princess of Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt), 3d spouse of GD Friedrich Franz II of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, and so, step-mother of GDss Maria Pavlovna-elder.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 12, 2009, 08:17:27 AM
Thanks so much for the answer, Svetabel!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on May 22, 2009, 05:26:20 AM
I found at Christie's portrait of Anna Waldeck (1838-1898) :

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/d4399979x.jpg)

As I can't find any Anna Waldeck do you think this woman has to do anything with the House of Waldeck-Pyrmont or she could be mislabeled and it could be someone else from that house!?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on May 23, 2009, 06:59:11 AM
I found at Christie's portrait of Anna Waldeck (1838-1898) :


As I can't find any Anna Waldeck do you think this woman has to do anything with the House of Waldeck-Pyrmont or she could be mislabeled and it could be someone else from that house!?

Waldeck is not only a German family name. So it's not easy to find out quickly who is that Anna Waldeck.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on May 23, 2009, 09:25:03 AM
True...but the lady looks very noble here,so I thought maybe it has something to do with Waldeck-Pyrmonts...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on May 24, 2009, 01:51:25 PM
Can anyone tell who are the persons in the wedding portrait of Ludwig von Hesse and Alice of GB?

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Hessen.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: synnadene on August 29, 2009, 10:51:54 AM

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/jewels_syn/alexandrinepruss.jpg)

Can somebody help me to identify this Princess? I suggest that she is Princess Alexandrine of Prussia (*1842), Pss of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, but I'm not sure..

Thanks.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Veronica on August 29, 2009, 02:37:01 PM
It's Alexandrine Of Prussia as you say. I have the same pic with the identification:

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3459/copiadealexandrinepruss.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: synnadene on August 29, 2009, 03:34:06 PM

So I remembered right, thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: gogm on September 24, 2009, 11:23:20 AM
Does anyone have information about Maximiliana von Scherffenberg. She was involved in squabbling among various German states and principalities. Her image:
(http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/43665/2086976940094285158S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2086976940094285158qCpjVQ)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on September 24, 2009, 12:55:41 PM
This is what I found browsing genealogy sites,but maybe you also know this!So,just in case:

"Maximiliana was born in 1608, the tenth of fourteen children of Graf Karl Franz von Harrach zu Rohrau and Freiin Maria Elisabeth von Schrattenbach. In 1627 she married Graf Adam Erdmann Trczka z Lipy, son of Graf Jan Rudolf Trczka z Lipa and Marie Magdalena z Lobkowicz. Their daughter Maria Isabella would not have progeny. As Wallenstein's closest confidant, Adam Erdmann was murdered, along with Wallenstein's other close supporters Freiherr Wilhelm Kinsky, Rittmeister Heinrich Niemann, and Feldmarshall Christian Ilow at a banquet in the castle of Eger on the night of 25 February 1634.

Maximiliana was, at the time of the murder of her husband, with her sister-in-law Elisabeth Kinsky in an inn on the market place in Eger, opposite Wallenstein's headquarters.

After the death of their husbands both women were brought to Pilsen and interrogated. The board of inquiry could not produce proof of the guilt of Maximiliana's husband in the supposed betrayal by Wallenstein of the emperor; immediately after the news of his death Maximiliana had burned the entire correspondence of her husband; given the situation this showed considerable presence of mind. The inquiry also treated her with great forbearance as a daughter of the late, highly respected Graf Karl Franz Harrach.

The contemporary chroniclers also deal very moderately with Maximiliana; Graf Franz Christoph 'der Jüngere' Khevenhüller writes about her: '...however the wife of Trczka, a born Countess von Harrach, has no knowledge of this (the supposed betrayal by Wallenstein and his advisers), and his Imperial Majesty feels great compassion for her over the manner in which events transpired, and great revulsion over those events'.

Countess Elisabeth Kinsky was able to reach Dresden in safety. When the emperor received the news a few days later of the successful conclusion of the action - of the death of Wallenstein and his followers - he ordered that 3,000 masses be said for the deceased in the churches of the empire.

Maximiliana later married Graf Johann Wilhelm von Schärffenberg, a cousin of Graf Johann Ernst von Schärffenberg who had long been condemned over his knowledge of the supposed betrayal by Wallenstein. She and Johann Wilhelm, the son of Karl von Schärffenberg, Herr auf Spiegelberg, and Polyxena von Rogendorf, had seven children of whom two daughters would have progeny. She held the powerful position of 'Fräuleinhofmeisterin' (stewardess of the ladies of the court) of Eleonora II Gonzaga, widow of Emperor Ferdinand III. Maximiliana died in 1662 aged fifty-three or fifty-four."
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Post by: gogm on October 07, 2009, 04:38:35 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 18, 2009, 03:34:27 PM
I think the Anna Waldeck portrait is by Winterhalter or by his workshop. It would be easy to trace it through that route I think.
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Post by: Alexander1917 on October 18, 2009, 05:27:40 PM
(http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/41201/2821349020100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

Can anyone tell me what this refers to? Oskar's installation as the head of the Order of St John perhaps? Presumably not the confirmation of Oskar jr. because he would have been distinguished from his father, and Konfirmation would have been more likely than Einsegnung in that connection (?).

Einsegnung is a bit "older term" but means konfirmation after death comes the "aussegnung"
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Rani on October 18, 2009, 06:56:03 PM
I found at Christie's portrait of Anna Waldeck (1838-1898) :

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/d4399979x.jpg (http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/d4399979x.jpg)

As I can't find any Anna Waldeck do you think this woman has to do anything with the House of Waldeck-Pyrmont or she could be mislabeled and it could be someone else from that house!?

It could be that she was a member of the rich middle class, maybe..
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Post by: gogm on October 18, 2009, 08:17:50 PM
Compare to this image of Helena of Waldeck-Pyrmont:
(http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/39849/2229570120094285158S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2229570120094285158OULTXI)

or this one of Emma:
(http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/44909/2346257800094285158S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2346257800094285158nNRlpB).

Wikipedia has little about the Waldeck-Pyrmont family, at least in English...
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 18, 2009, 09:33:27 PM
Compare to this image of Helena of Waldeck-Pyrmont:
http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/39849/2229570120094285158S600x600Q85.jpg (http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/39849/2229570120094285158S600x600Q85.jpg)

 

 

This is not Helena, is her daughter Alice of Athlone.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 19, 2009, 03:08:53 PM
The other one look like her sister Emma too...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 19, 2009, 09:24:23 PM
The second one is emma, AUNT of Alice of Athlone ;-(
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: gogm on October 19, 2009, 11:34:00 PM
Is there a family resemblance?
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 20, 2009, 01:01:59 PM
Yes. Both sisters have nice round faces. As a result, Alice Athlone did looked a bit like her cousin Juliana during her youth.
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 20, 2009, 01:53:21 PM
I think Gogm was talking about if the picture of Anna Waldeck had some resemblance with the ones of Alice and Emma  .

Personally..i dont see the resemblance. Maybe it was just a noble lady with surname Waldeck.
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Post by: THERRY on December 21, 2009, 07:10:49 AM
Can somebody help me to identify this Princess ? I only know she was a Saxony Princess. Thank You (http://i47.tinypic.com/drdssk.jpg)
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Post by: Svetabel on December 21, 2009, 08:06:58 AM
That's Anna of Saxe-Weimar (1826-62)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Veronica on December 21, 2009, 03:02:18 PM
For me, it looks like Carola of Vasa, queen of Saxony...
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Post by: Svetabel on December 21, 2009, 11:52:08 PM
For me, it looks like Carola of Vasa, queen of Saxony...

Oh, yes, really. Recently I've been too much into the Saxe-Weimar and Altenburg genealogy and iconography so that's definitely directed me into the wrong way.
And there are more photos from that session of Carola. I have one more somewhere in my collection.
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Post by: THERRY on December 22, 2009, 03:02:28 AM
Thank You  Very Kind !
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 22, 2009, 09:12:04 PM
If that was Carola, it must be a very early photograph.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Rani on March 06, 2010, 01:32:53 PM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/35kveae.jpg)

This is a Winterhalter portrait. But who is the lady? Maybe it´s a famous portrait, but I don´t know it.

Thanks
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Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 06, 2010, 01:44:33 PM
This is Mathilde Letizia Wilhelmine Bonaparte, daughter of Jerome Bonaparte (youngest brother of Napoleon) and Katharina of Wurttemberg
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Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 06, 2010, 01:46:18 PM
This is another pic of her

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/MathildeBonaparte.jpg)
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 06, 2010, 01:50:01 PM
i was going to say the same thing. Here s a close up of her face

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WINTERHALTER.jpg
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Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 06, 2010, 01:54:33 PM
Katenka, guess that was a battle of seconds ;)

The tiara is remarably beautiful. Does anybody know which one it is?
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 06, 2010, 02:29:02 PM
Yes, we re quick!! xDDD

I dont know but it looks pretty much of this one of Sophie of Netherland

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Sophia_Fredeika,_Princess_of_Wurtemberg.jpg
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Post by: Rani on March 06, 2010, 02:34:16 PM
Thank you very much! (Both of you!)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 06, 2010, 02:44:43 PM
That really does, Katenka, thank you. It's maybe a heirloom from the Wurtemberg family. Problem is, that Sophie died at 1877 and Mathilde wore this tiara 1860...It seems to me that there was a duplicate for both of them or that the tiara was just in possesion of the Wurtemberg house and both ladies "borrowed" it for their paintings.
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 06, 2010, 03:12:06 PM
i dont know if it was an exactly duplicated but that kind of tiaras with stars were pretty popular  in that period.

Here another example with Queen Isabel II of spain

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5074/001009ep0.jpg
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Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 06, 2010, 04:11:02 PM
huh, "beautiful" lady :D thanks Katenka, then it might have been a modern "must have" in that time.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Rani on May 01, 2010, 09:30:34 AM
Prinzessin of Baden, but which?

(http://i44.tinypic.com/29ft5ch.jpg)
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Post by: synnadene on May 01, 2010, 12:43:52 PM

I beleive she is the Princess Maria Maximiliane of Leuchtenberg (1841-1914), the Duchess Wilhelm of Baden
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Post by: Veronica on May 01, 2010, 03:25:39 PM
I agree with synadenne, for me it's Marie of Leuchtenberg
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Rani on May 01, 2010, 03:30:17 PM
Thanks!!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Veronica on May 03, 2010, 05:08:33 PM
Does anybody know who this lady is?
The caption says "Princess Victoria of England with her son, the future Wilhelm II", but it doesn't look like them at all...

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8662/80156703.jpg)
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Post by: grandduchessella on May 03, 2010, 05:09:55 PM
It's not them. Victoria was once photographed in a similar outfit, as was her sister Alice, and Wilhelm in a similar outfit as this one but not at the same time.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 01, 2010, 08:20:05 PM
This lady was painted by Julius Kraut...it is assumed that she is of high-birth because of the Coat of arms with the crown on the wooden frame.The painter itself was in service of Prince Karl Anton von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen...he painted many royal portraits including King of Belgium,King and Queen of Romania,Crown Prince and Crown Princess of Prussia...

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/portrait.jpg)

And closer look to coat of arms on the frame:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/wappen.jpg)



any idea who this lady might be?



Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 02, 2010, 07:39:03 AM
it doesnt look like anyone i know from the hohenzollern. Maybe she was an aristocrat?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 02, 2010, 10:35:25 AM
Yes...Some countess or baroness.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on June 02, 2010, 10:48:55 AM
Yes...Some countess or baroness.

In all heraldic system from Finisterre to Vladivostok, a seven-spiked coronet like this one is the baronial coronet, whereas a comital coronet has nine spikes!!!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 02, 2010, 02:52:06 PM
Thanks for it...helps a lot!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 02, 2010, 05:25:30 PM
At least we know she was a Baroness.  ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 18, 2010, 06:09:32 PM
Could this lady be someone connected to royalty?I think that she is nobility already by seeing her wearing a tiara and coat of arms with the crown on her chair...

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Pic.jpg)

Anybody?Any similarity with some royals?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Rani on June 20, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
Could be a woman from Italy or Hungary. Can you read the name of the painter?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 20, 2010, 08:44:40 PM
Unfortunately not :-( don't know anything about it...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 20, 2010, 08:50:19 PM
I don't think it was a well known royal personage.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 21, 2010, 12:27:16 PM
I don't think either,if she really is royal and not noble...but the coat of arms in the chair,tiara and "whole structure" of the painting is assuming to be a person of a high rank...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 21, 2010, 02:58:38 PM
Maybe an officals wife ?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 21, 2010, 05:18:22 PM
With the coat of arms and the crown on her chair...don't think she is just official's wife...maybe if that official is some kind of regent or something?And those persons could be only of high rank...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on June 22, 2010, 01:42:25 AM
What about a brasilian, portugues or spanish woman? The name of the painter (the first letters) seem like a ferng ... or feng or fernq... or fenq.. for me :-\
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Rasputin on June 22, 2010, 02:23:40 AM
Could somebody recognize these girls?
<a href="http://s466.photobucket.com/albums/rr30/Zecharia_2008/Anna%20Vochminova/?action=view&current=AnnaVochminova4.jpg"
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 22, 2010, 05:41:46 AM
Are they Germans?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 22, 2010, 05:43:14 AM
What about a brasilian, portugues or spanish woman? The name of the painter (the first letters) seem like a ferng ... or feng or fernq... or fenq.. for me :-\

Well,could be...not sure...undecided :-( that's why I asked for help...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Rasputin on June 22, 2010, 10:07:04 AM
Are they Germans?
I am not sure. I do not think so, but you never know ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 22, 2010, 04:37:53 PM
True...try to post also in other threads,maybe someone might know...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Rasputin on June 22, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
True...try to post also in other threads,maybe someone might know...
Thanks, good idea. :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 29, 2010, 09:08:31 PM
Could this lady be someone connected to royalty?I think that she is nobility already by seeing her wearing a tiara and coat of arms with the crown on her chair...

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Pic.jpg)

Anybody?Any similarity with some royals?


Found that it is labeled as:"Bildnis einer fürstlichen Dame." by Artur Ferraris but still don't know the period and who could it be???
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 30, 2010, 07:55:30 AM
I d say, judging her hairdo and dress, between 1850- 1860. But, since Ferraris was born in 1856, it could be in mids 1870s or some 20th century lady in period costume (till 1936, cause Ferraris died in that year)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on July 01, 2010, 12:06:30 AM
True,tough to say...it also says in German:

"Ganzfigur in gelbem Kleid, nach links in einem roten Armlehnstuhl an einem Tisch sitzend. Mit perlenbesetztem Diadem, in der linken Hand einen Fächer haltend. Auf der Stuhllehne gesticktes fürstliches Wappen. R. u. signiert."


Arthur von Ferarris was born in Hungary,but during teenage period moved to Vienna where he stayed until 1876 when he moved to Paris until 1885 when again he moved to Egypt...he moved to Budapest in 1893 but in 1894 he left for Berlin,but soon again found himself in Vienna...

Those years might help to identify the person painted or even "locate" her...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Veronica on July 09, 2010, 01:39:16 PM
Can someone identify this lady please?

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1040/quienes8ddlanding.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 09, 2010, 02:19:08 PM
Alexandrine von mecklenburg Schwering, later queen of Denmark ^^
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Veronica on July 09, 2010, 03:23:18 PM
Thanks! It crossed my mind that it could be her because of the photographer, but since I'm not very familiar with her and have seen few of her pictures I wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 09, 2010, 05:45:08 PM
Yes it was her. She was nicknamed "Adini" and was popular with the family. This must have been taken when she was first "out" of the schoolroom as her hair just seemed to come up.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Bourgogne on July 19, 2010, 05:25:54 PM
Yes it was her. She was nicknamed "Adini" and was popular with the family. This must have been taken when she was first "out" of the schoolroom as her hair just seemed to come up.

Wonderful picture!

 I only knew a pic of her in the wedding of King Leopold III of Belgium with Astrid of Sweden. On this picture she was already old and rather ugly... It's an amazing surprise to see how pretty she was when she was young...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: HerrKaiser on August 02, 2010, 10:47:55 AM
Can anyone determine what the heraldry is on this building that the artisan is restoring?

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/eurochief/heraldry.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on January 26, 2011, 09:30:09 AM
Beladona is interested if anyone can identify this Princess von Wuerttemberg?

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/PzWurt.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 26, 2011, 09:46:21 AM
Thats princess Maria Isabella von Wurttemberg, consort of Johan Georg of Saxony ;-D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on January 26, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
Thats princess Maria Isabella von Wurttemberg, consort of Johan Georg of Saxony ;-D

Yes, that's her, and a very rare image I must say.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on January 26, 2011, 05:01:58 PM
Thats princess Maria Isabella von Wurttemberg, consort of Johan Georg of Saxony ;-D

Yes, that's her, and a very rare image I must say.

Beladona sent me this picture to post here for you,so thanks to her we are seeing something rare...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Zukunftsseele on February 20, 2011, 05:59:18 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/titania1837/4352824291/in/set-72157621797957461/

This is a cabinet card of my photo collection that is showing a member of the Isenburg family from Hesse, Germany. I'm not sure who it is but it's probably one of the two wives of Bruno, Count of Isenburg. Can anyone help me identify her?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 19, 2011, 06:00:36 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/titania1837/4352824291/in/set-72157621797957461/

This is a cabinet card of my photo collection that is showing a member of the Isenburg family from Hesse, Germany. I'm not sure who it is but it's probably one of the two wives of Bruno, Count of Isenburg. Can anyone help me identify her?

Have a look at this page: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Eleonore_zu_Solms-Hohensolms-Lich.jpg&filetimestamp=20080806194003 (http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Eleonore_zu_Solms-Hohensolms-Lich.jpg&filetimestamp=20080806194003)
This is Eleonore zu Solms-Hohensolms-Lich the sister of Mathilde. She looks very similar to the one in the pic so maybe it is really Mathilde.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on March 19, 2011, 07:16:37 PM
Mathilde died in 1867 and this picture is c.a 1870,so it could be her...other thing is that Mathilde was born a Princess and married to Fürst,so don't know why they labeled her as Countess if that was her...

On the other hand Isenburg family had 2 Countly branches which existed in that period,so this lady could be a member of those lines:Ysenburg und Büdingen zu Meerholz and Ysenburg und Büdingen zu Philippseich...

Her face reminds me also of Princess Eleonore Reuss,Queen of Bulgaria..
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Bourgogne on March 29, 2011, 07:17:24 AM
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll205/EnaBatt/ClementinedeOrleanslaterprincess-1.jpg)

I've seen this picture as "Clementine d'Orleans" (nonsense...!!!!)

Of course it's not her, but I don't manage to find who it is. I know this face, but... ?


Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: gogm on June 20, 2011, 04:20:13 AM
Is this Prince and Princess August Wilhelm or Eitel Friedrich?

http://www.gogmsite.net/the-belle-epoque-1890-1914/subalbum-princess-sophie-ch/eitel-fritz-and-sophie-char.html (http://www.gogmsite.net/the-belle-epoque-1890-1914/subalbum-princess-sophie-ch/eitel-fritz-and-sophie-char.html)

I have seen them identified both ways.

Inquiring minds want to know...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on June 20, 2011, 05:31:50 AM
Is this Prince and Princess August Wilhelm or Eitel Friedrich?

http://www.gogmsite.net/the-belle-epoque-1890-1914/subalbum-princess-sophie-ch/eitel-fritz-and-sophie-char.html (http://www.gogmsite.net/the-belle-epoque-1890-1914/subalbum-princess-sophie-ch/eitel-fritz-and-sophie-char.html)

I have seen them identified both ways.

Inquiring minds want to know...

That's Eitel Friedrich for sure with his wife. He is heavily retouched.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 20, 2011, 08:17:01 AM
I ve seen another images of the same period, untouched and he was that handsome. Later he went downhill xD!

Ps: Thanks gogm for the credit on the image ;-D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on June 20, 2011, 09:12:04 AM
Have a look at this page: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Eleonore_zu_Solms-Hohensolms-Lich.jpg&filetimestamp=20080806194003 (http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Eleonore_zu_Solms-Hohensolms-Lich.jpg&filetimestamp=20080806194003)
This is Eleonore zu Solms-Hohensolms-Lich the sister of Mathilde. She looks very similar to the one in the pic so maybe it is really Mathilde.

Princess Mathilde,sister of Eleonore was married to Fürst zu Dohna-Schlobitten,but her aunt Mathilde married into Ysenburg family!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Zukunftsseele on August 28, 2011, 08:06:36 AM
Mathilde died in 1867 and this picture is c.a 1870,so it could be her...other thing is that Mathilde was born a Princess and married to Fürst,so don't know why they labeled her as Countess if that was her...

On the other hand Isenburg family had 2 Countly branches which existed in that period,so this lady could be a member of those lines:Ysenburg und Büdingen zu Meerholz and Ysenburg und Büdingen zu Philippseich...

Her face reminds me also of Princess Eleonore Reuss,Queen of Bulgaria..

From all I know it's a supposed Countess of Ysenburg und Büdingen zu Meerholz. But who?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Zukunftsseele on September 01, 2011, 03:25:55 PM
Does anyone know if these people are royal / noble in any way and who they are? Thank you.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joerookery/5999767020/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joerookery/5999216929/
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on September 22, 2011, 07:53:28 AM
From all I know it's a supposed Countess of Ysenburg und Büdingen zu Meerholz. But who?


Well,if that is the case it could be easier to identify the person...There were just few Countesses from the Meerholz line with that age around 1870ies:

1.Countess Agnes,2nd wife of Count Karl,who was born Princess von Ysenburg und Buedingen zu Buedingen(1843-1912)

2.And maybe,just maybe Countess Marie(1855-1909),who was daughter in law of Count Karl,born Princess Reuss zu Greiz,making her aunt of Princess Hermine,wife of Wilhelm II...she married Count Friedrich only in 1875,so that's why I said maybe...

Marie's brother Prince Heinrich XXII was German ambassador to Vienna under the reign of Wilhelm I, German Emperor,so maybe there is a connection with this cabinet photo!


So,it could be either Countess Agnes von Ysenburg-Meerholz,born also Princess Ysenburg und Buedingen or Countess Marie von Ysenburg-Meerholz,born Princess Reuss zu Greiz,sister of German Ambassador in Vienna...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Danjel on September 23, 2011, 02:06:56 PM
I haved doubts........

Just to compare:
Countess Agnes,2nd wife of Count Karl,who was born Princess von Ysenburg und Buedingen zu Buedingen(1843-1912)
(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af112/Royaldaan/1843-1912AgnesIsenburg-MeerholzxIsenburg-Budingen.jpg)

and Countess Marie (1855-1909)
(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af112/Royaldaan/1855-1909MarieReusszuGreizxzuYsenburg-BdingeninMeerholz-kopie.jpg)
(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af112/Royaldaan/1855-1909MarieReusszuGreizxzuYsenburg-BdingeninMeerholz2.jpg)




From all I know it's a supposed Countess of Ysenburg und Büdingen zu Meerholz. But who?


Well,if that is the case it could be easier to identify the person...There were just few Countesses from the Meerholz line with that age around 1870ies:

1.Countess Agnes,2nd wife of Count Karl,who was born Princess von Ysenburg und Buedingen zu Buedingen(1843-1912)

2.And maybe,just maybe Countess Marie(1855-1909),who was daughter in law of Count Karl,born Princess Reuss zu Greiz,making her aunt of Princess Hermine,wife of Wilhelm II...she married Count Friedrich only in 1875,so that's why I said maybe...

Marie's brother Prince Heinrich XXII was German ambassador to Vienna under the reign of Wilhelm I, German Emperor,so maybe there is a connection with this cabinet photo!


So,it could be either Countess Agnes von Ysenburg-Meerholz,born also Princess Ysenburg und Buedingen or Countess Marie von Ysenburg-Meerholz,born Princess Reuss zu Greiz,sister of German Ambassador in Vienna...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on September 23, 2011, 06:12:37 PM
Thank you for those pictures...in that case we are dropping an opinion about a Countess from Meerholz line...

So,this could be either a Countess from Philippseich side of the family or a Princess from remaining branches of that time...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Zukunftsseele on September 23, 2011, 07:23:22 PM
I think she has similarities with both Marie and Eleonore. But rather Marie. Is there a photo of Mathilde somewhere? Or is this Marie the same as Marie Mathilde?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on October 15, 2011, 10:32:26 AM
Antonio de la Gandara with a portrait of Grand Duchess von Mecklenburg,but which one?

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/adlgmecklenbourg.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 15, 2011, 11:09:37 AM
Looks like Maria Antonia

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1071/1379720507_ee2ab88e37_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on October 15, 2011, 02:07:35 PM
Antonio de la Gandara with a portrait of Grand Duchess von Mecklenburg,but which one?

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/adlgmecklenbourg.jpg)

Could be Anastasia Mikhailovna. But that's more likely Marie Duchess of Mecklenbourg-Schwerin,nee Windiesch-Graetz.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 15, 2011, 02:29:57 PM
Which Marie/Maria are we talking about ?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 15, 2011, 08:09:47 PM
The one i posted above?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 15, 2011, 10:44:33 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on October 16, 2011, 12:34:11 AM
The one i posted above?

Yes, her name was Marie. Maria Antonia was her daughter.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 16, 2011, 07:27:13 AM
I always confuse  both names. Thanks for the correction
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on October 17, 2011, 07:22:45 AM
It really seems to be Marie,but than the person in the picture is wrongly identified as "Grande Duchesse" instead of just "Duchess"which could lead to a wrong clue...

Thank you all for replies...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on November 01, 2011, 08:45:14 AM
A royal person painted by Josef Kriehuber in 1860,but just don' t know who?

I posted here as I assume it was Germanic connected lady because she is painted by Kriehuber

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/royalportrait.jpg)

any thoughts?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Zukunftsseele on November 13, 2011, 05:12:04 PM
Here is another photo from my private collection, supposed to show members of the Ysenburg/Isenburg family. Does anyone know who they are? Maybe even members of the Solms family?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/titania1837/6342248828/
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: jalm on November 14, 2011, 04:25:59 PM
Hello Zukunftsseele,

The girl standing right is to mu opinion Klothilde zu Ysenburg - Büdingen. She lived from 1852 to 1922.
She was the daughter of Karl Friedrich zu Ysenburg - Büdingen in Meerholz and Grafin Johanne zu Castell - Castell.
The seated girl on the left could be her sister Helene (1848-1920).

I have two photographs of the girls which I will scan shortly to compare.

Greetings,

Jan
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Zukunftsseele on November 14, 2011, 06:32:27 PM
Oh, that would really be great Jan! Thank you so so much.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: jalm on November 15, 2011, 09:24:21 AM
Hello,

Please find connected the two photographs of the Ysenburg - Büdingen in Meerholz girls.
The first is Klothilde zu Isenburg - Büdingen in Meerholz (1852 - 1922).
The second is one of Helene zu Ysenburg - Büdingen in Meerholz (1848-1920).

(http://www.xs4all.nl/~eastwin/alexander-palace/cc14-11.jpg)

(http://www.xs4all.nl/~eastwin/alexander-palace/cc15-11.jpg)

Greetings,

Jan
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on November 16, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
I think you got this right ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on January 12, 2012, 09:06:55 AM
Could this girl painted by Kaulbach(1917) be Princess Marie of Prussia instead of Princess Maire von Hohenzollern?

http://www.artvalue.com/auctionresult--kaulbach-friedrich-august-von-a-portrait-of-a-lady-half-leng-2312438.htm

There was one Princess von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen(Marie Antoinette) who could suit the age of a sitter,but she was blond and doesn't look very much like the girl in the portrait!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on January 12, 2012, 01:36:58 PM
Could this girl painted by Kaulbach(1917) be Princess Marie of Prussia instead of Princess Maire von Hohenzollern?

http://www.artvalue.com/auctionresult--kaulbach-friedrich-august-von-a-portrait-of-a-lady-half-leng-2312438.htm

There was one Princess von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen(Marie Antoinette) who could suit the age of a sitter,but she was blond and doesn't look very much like the girl in the portrait!

Actually I don't see any resemblance to any Hohenzollern Princess of that time...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on January 12, 2012, 03:26:02 PM
Could this girl painted by Kaulbach(1917) be Princess Marie of Prussia instead of Princess Maire von Hohenzollern?

http://www.artvalue.com/auctionresult--kaulbach-friedrich-august-von-a-portrait-of-a-lady-half-leng-2312438.htm

There was one Princess von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen(Marie Antoinette) who could suit the age of a sitter,but she was blond and doesn't look very much like the girl in the portrait!

Actually I don't see any resemblance to any Hohenzollern Princess of that time...

You are right,me neither,but if we consider painters freedom could it be possibly be someone?Don't know why she is labeled Princess Marie Hohenzollern...it must be some royal connection!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on February 15, 2012, 10:56:01 PM
From Metropolitan museum the title is Duchess of Mecklenburg,maybe even Grand Duchess...

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Meck.jpg)

but which one?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on February 16, 2012, 12:20:24 AM
From Metropolitan museum the title is Duchess of Mecklenburg,maybe even Grand Duchess...



but which one?

The style of the dress is 1867-1869 years...well...her profile looks familiar  but not that familiar to  be some known to us a Mecklenburg-Schwerin or Strelitz Duchess or GDss.

I'd say she resembles GDss Adelheid of Luxemburg (nee Prss Anhalt-Dessau).

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelheid_Marie_von_Anhalt-Dessau (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelheid_Marie_von_Anhalt-Dessau)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on February 16, 2012, 10:37:53 AM
Here is a link for the picture,you can use zoom so maybe that would help a bit:

http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-collections/190041958?rpp=60&pg=1&ft=Pierson%2c+Pierre-Louis+%28French%2c+1822-1913%29&pos=24
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Zukunftsseele on April 04, 2012, 04:51:18 AM
Does anyone know who this guy is? He is supposed to be Emanuel of Salm-Salm but I have my doubts....
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/zukunftsseele/6875674538_3738408810_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on September 24, 2012, 05:24:47 AM
Portrait of,said to be,Princess von Anhalt:

http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm65.pl?f=NR_LOT&c=3709&t=temartic_M_GB&db=kat65_m.txt

but which one...to me the portrait looks similar to the one of Alexandra Iosifovna,but the features look like Nassau,but I am not sure...and the portrait provenance is of Grand Duchess Vera of Russia!

What do you think?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on September 24, 2012, 06:33:43 AM
Portrait of,said to be,Princess von Anhalt:

http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm65.pl?f=NR_LOT&c=3709&t=temartic_M_GB&db=kat65_m.txt

but which one...to me the portrait looks similar to the one of Alexandra Iosifovna,but the features look like Nassau,but I am not sure...and the portrait provenance is of Grand Duchess Vera of Russia!

What do you think?

Marc, that's a  very flattering portrait of Princess Bathildis of Anhalt, spouse of Prince Schaumburg-Lippe and so mother-in-law of GDss Vera's daughters. In some book I've seen another version of the portrait, probably an original, as that one from the auction is a copy.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on September 24, 2012, 07:47:03 AM
Very flattering indeed...Thank you Svetabel,somehow I just knew someone on this board might know!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on November 17, 2012, 08:55:17 PM
(http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/78958306-olympic-games-stockholm-sweden-tennis-in-the-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=fOqRSGnZREbdOD5U9z9TH4euTvH99KO05dsISBAsN1vWyGkS6xIretMdzn%2bc5Fir)

I was wondering if this could be Charlotte of Prussia sitting with Gustav V in the Stockholm Royal Box during the 1912 Olympics? She was cousin to his wife, Victoria, and I'm thinking it could be her. She has that same white-powdered, rather sunken eyed look that Charlotte around this period had.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 17, 2012, 11:38:58 PM
I think it does look like her, and she was a very restless traveler even though her health was far from good (see John Rohl's "Purple Secret").
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on November 18, 2012, 12:21:56 AM


I was wondering if this could be Charlotte of Prussia sitting with Gustav V in the Stockholm Royal Box during the 1912 Olympics? She was cousin to his wife, Victoria, and I'm thinking it could be her. She has that same white-powdered, rather sunken eyed look that Charlotte around this period had.

That's definitely her.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on November 28, 2012, 05:25:45 PM
Thanks, Sveta.

This was ID'd as Max Baden but it looks more like GD Boris to me:

http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205124147
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Veronica on November 28, 2012, 05:46:59 PM
Yes, I think that is GD Boris.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 28, 2012, 06:51:53 PM
100% sure that s my Boris  ;)

Ps: its amazing the amount of innacurate labels just because back then, someone labelled it wrong  and nothing in the archives have the time or knowledge to  correct them! xD
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 28, 2012, 10:57:04 PM
Yes pretty sure it was Boris.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Rodney_G. on November 29, 2012, 04:33:53 PM
If that's Boris, this is a pretty significant misidentification. The picture is clear and of high quality, and the subjects were very famous and high profile at the time of this photo. And yet it happens.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on November 29, 2012, 07:47:45 PM
This part of the collection comes from Lord Lonsdale who knew the participants. The 5th Earl of Lonsdale was a close friend of decades to the Kaiser.  He even entertained the Kaiser at Lowther Castle and the 2 had private dinners when the Kaiser visited England. He was known in the papers as the Kaiser's English Pal and frequently attended German miitary maneuvers as well as well as conducting a copious correspondence. Lady Lonsdale even launched the Kaiser's racing yacht Meteor II. The 2 were great sailing enthusiasts and frequently met up at Cowes and Kiel.  Lonsdale stuck by the Kaiser through thick and thin and maintained their correspondence after WW1, even though they never met again after 1914. 

 It's hard to believe he would've mislabeled them on the photographs but perhaps an error somewhere down the line if they were noted on the actual photos. Museums and archives frequently make errors. Still Max and Boris don't look much alike at all!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: edubs31 on November 29, 2012, 09:45:32 PM
 It's hard to believe he would've mislabeled them on the photographs but perhaps an error somewhere down the line if they were noted on the actual photos. Museums and archives frequently make errors. Still Max and Boris don't look much alike at all!

Well maybe they were just so confused to find Boris looking so dignified and appropriate, and not in his usual role of the outspoken playboy running around with his mistresses, that they assumed it couldn't be him :-)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on November 29, 2012, 11:03:06 PM
Too funny! As good an idea as any. It is a rather different look for Boris than we are used to seeing. I haven't been able to find out yet when Lord Lonsdale and Boris may have crossed paths.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on March 05, 2013, 04:02:31 AM
It is labeled as Fürstin von Hohenlohe-Langenberg by monongrammist "BS" in 19th century,although to me it looks more 20th century and doesn't look like any Fürstin von Hohenlohe-Langenburg from that period...Maybe it was some other member of the Hohenlohe-Langenburg family labeled as Fürstin instead of Princess/Prinzessin:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Album%201/Hohen_zps889398c3.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on March 06, 2013, 01:12:55 AM
The style of the dress is from the beginning of 20 cent. definitely...The appearance of the woman is quite unique, I mean the features, so she could be easily recognized in a photo, but I don't recall any Hohenlohe-Langenburg Princess of that period with such a face.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on March 06, 2013, 04:32:54 AM
The style of the dress is from the beginning of 20 cent. definitely...The appearance of the woman is quite unique, I mean the features, so she could be easily recognized in a photo, but I don't recall any Hohenlohe-Langenburg Princess of that period with such a face.

Me too :( although,I am not an expert...That's why I posted here...

Maybe it's one of the less known members of the collateral branch of the family...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 30, 2013, 10:05:43 AM
Hi!! does anybody knows who  s this lady

http://fotocollectie.huisdoorn.nl/HuDF-0070

It says its Adelheid of Schleswig-Holstein nee Pss of Hohenlohe - Langenburg, but obviously its not since this image its from the 1860s  and in that period Adelheid was quite young (she was born in 1835), not like this old lady

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Princess_Adelheid_of_Hohenlohe-Langenburg,_Duchess_of_Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg.jpg

Thanks in advanced!!

Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on March 30, 2013, 11:12:23 AM
It's Louise (or Luise), Duchess of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg (1796-1867). She was Adelheid's mother-in-law--as well as Princess Helena of Great Britain's.

She was born  Countess Lovisa-Sophie Danneskjold-Samsøe. In 1820 she married Duke Christian who renounced his rights to the  Duchy of Schleswig-Holstein in favor of his son. They had 7 children.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 30, 2013, 11:42:02 AM
Thanks so much!!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on March 30, 2013, 11:51:37 AM
You're very welcome. Given that she was Adelheid's mother in law (and the photoback may very well say 'Duchess of Schleswig-Holstein or something like it), I can see where the mistake could be made. I contacted Huis Doorn as well.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on April 01, 2013, 12:23:46 PM
This was ID'd as Miechen but, looking at the long-haired boy, is it Marie Windisch-Graetz?

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grand-Duchesse-Maria-Pavlona-Mecklenburg-Schwerin-Inscribed-Signed-Photo-1898-/261192017460?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item3cd041e634
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 01, 2013, 03:07:48 PM
Yup, it looks like her with Heinrich Borwin

Image courtesy of Svetabel

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/ChildrenofDukePaulFriedrich_1895.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on April 02, 2013, 07:39:26 AM
This was ID'd as Miechen but, looking at the long-haired boy, is it Marie Windisch-Graetz?

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grand-Duchesse-Maria-Pavlona-Mecklenburg-Schwerin-Inscribed-Signed-Photo-1898-/261192017460?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item3cd041e634

Yes, that's Marie Windisch-Graetz  with Heinrich.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on August 26, 2013, 07:00:56 AM
It is said that the sitter is Princess of Prussia in 1902 painted by Richard Reimanns:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Richard-Reimanns-1902-Olgemaelde-Prinzessin-v-Preussen-150x120-Biedermeier-Berli-/261272570214?clk_rvr_id=514078021156

Any thoughts who might this be?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 26, 2013, 10:02:20 AM
Doesnt look like any prussian princess i know
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: HerrKaiser on August 26, 2013, 05:30:09 PM
I agree; she does not look familiar. 1902 would be too early for any of the daughers-in-law of WII, and the image doesn't look like any of them. Certainly not Irene or VL. Too young for Louise of Baden. Doesn't look anything like Vicky and Fritz's four girls.

Possibly Dona's younger sister Louise Sophie?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on August 27, 2013, 09:04:20 AM

Possibly Dona's younger sister Louise Sophie?

I wondered the same.Just for the easier comparation:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/LS_zpsa8ef2c67.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/auersperg21/media/LS_zpsa8ef2c67.jpg.html)

Courtesy to Royal Musings.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchessella on August 27, 2013, 01:42:52 PM
I had looked at the Online Gotha last night trying to see who it may possibly be--there weren't too many Prussian princesses all together and definitely not during this time frame. Most were either too young or too old. Louise Sophie was one of the right age but it would be a really bad likeness. I tried searching the artist as well and couldn't find a record of a princess he painted. I wonder if something was lost in translation and the painting was owned by a Prussian princess and not of one.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Svetabel on August 27, 2013, 04:34:41 PM
I wonder if something was lost in translation and the painting was owned by a Prussian princess and not of one.

Good point. As the woman in the portrait actually doesn't look like any Princess of Prussia.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on August 27, 2013, 07:29:19 PM
It could well be the case...or maybe just some Princess in Prussia,not of Prussia,if not just owned by Princess of Prussia.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on February 19, 2014, 07:29:13 AM
Found this portrait in Nobility portraits by Oliver Mark...It only consists of German royals and nobles,so I assumed the question should be posted here in this thread...

Here is a link to the site: http://www.oliver-mark.com/portfolios/nobility-portraits/

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/who1_zps533df5d4.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/auersperg21/media/who1_zps533df5d4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on February 19, 2014, 07:40:43 AM
What do you think?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on May 23, 2014, 04:10:11 AM
Lady with ermine coat ainted by Franz von Lenbach,exhibited in Wilhelmsgymnasium:

http://www.wilhelmsgymnasium.de/assets/Uploads/Museums-Abo/_resampled/resizedimage600450-140506-lenbachhaus-20.JPG

The picture...and the link:

http://www.wilhelmsgymnasium.de/museumsabo-galerie-2013

Who could it be?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Dru on August 07, 2014, 02:44:10 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5561/14667370370_0910240304_o.jpg)

Which Princess Anna of Prussia is this?  Anna, Landgravine of Hesse or her sister-in-law, Anna of Anhalt-Dessau?  Many thanks!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marie Valerie on August 30, 2014, 12:19:41 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5561/14667370370_0910240304_o.jpg)

Which Princess Anna of Prussia is this?  Anna, Landgravine of Hesse or her sister-in-law, Anna of Anhalt-Dessau?  Many thanks!


I think it's Landgravine Anna of Hesse, she wears the order of Luise, this Award was - as far as I know - not given to her sister-in-law Maria Anna of Anhalt-Dessau.
Title: Film of Wilhelm II & Ella
Post by: Queen_Missy on June 17, 2016, 03:58:12 PM
In the "Host of White Duchesses" documentary on FrozenTears - http://www.frozentears.org/Sasha/Spikes/White.Duchesses.01.m4v

Part 1 - 23:30-23:50

Is that Wilhelm on Ella? At first I thought it was Alix but how he is doting on her makes me think it must be Ella. Grin

If anyone watches it who speaks Russian could you tell what it says right in that part please?
Title: Re: Film of Wilhelm II & Ella
Post by: Inok Nikolai on June 17, 2016, 04:20:21 PM
In the "Host of White Duchesses" documentary on FrozenTears - http://www.frozentears.org/Sasha/Spikes/White.Duchesses.01.m4v

Part 1 - 23:30-23:50

Is that Wilhelm on Ella? At first I thought it was Alix but how he is doting on her makes me think it must be Ella. Grin

If anyone watches it who speaks Russian could you tell what it says right in that part please?

The narrator is simply reading the entries from Tsar Nicholas' diary and letters concerning Wilhelm's visit.
Title: Re: Film of Wilhelm II & Ella
Post by: Queen_Missy on June 17, 2016, 04:48:01 PM
Oops of course I meant AND Ella not ON Ella lol
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on July 25, 2016, 07:49:46 PM
Which Princess Anna of Prussia is this?  Anna, Landgravine of Hesse or her sister-in-law, Anna of Anhalt-Dessau?  Many thanks!


Based on Royal Collection it is a lithograph of Princess Maria Anna of Anhalt-Dessau by Gustav Heinrich Gottlieb Feckert (1820-1899):

https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/search#/1/collection/608036/maria-anna-of-anhalt-dessau-princess-of-prussia

and by Carl Mayer:

https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/search#/5/collection/608038/marie-anne-princesse-de-prusse

Feckbert also painted Maria Anna's sister Princess Agnes of Anhalt-Dessau:

https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/search#/7/collection/610135/agnes


But based on Zvab,it is Maria Anna,Princess of Hesse,whose portrait was done by Carl Mayer (1798-1868):

http://www.zvab.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=15817058906&searchurl=hl%3Don%26tn%3Dcarl%2520anna%2520maria%26sortby%3D20


Just for comparation here is a lithograph of Princess Maria Anna of Hessen-Kassel by Gustav Heinrich Gottlieb Feckert (1820-1899):

https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/610792/anna-of-prussia-princess-of-hesse-kassel
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on September 22, 2016, 01:34:08 PM
Whose portraits are hanging on the wall next to Gloria?Woman with a tiara?

(http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj526/auersperg24/Gloria_zpspdinwzge.jpg) (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/auersperg24/media/Gloria_zpspdinwzge.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)
Post by: Marc on September 23, 2016, 11:58:33 AM
Bigger version with better close up:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5vfnS-1A7H4/Vl3tew1FbKI/AAAAAAAApcw/PPn7Bn-wExg/s1600/HouseofThurnUndTaxis_cover.jpg

Can anyone recognize the portraits on the wall?