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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Greek Royal Family => Topic started by: Svetabel on January 02, 2005, 03:52:48 PM

Title: Help with Identification
Post by: Svetabel on January 02, 2005, 03:52:48 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/royaltygreece.jpg)

The picture was called "Royalty,Greece" on e-bay.
I am doubt...Though  a woman can be  Princess Catherine (1913- ) and a man - her husband?..I have no other idea.
Could anyone help me?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: grandduchessella on January 02, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
It looks like Katherine to me--she has sort of a distinctive face. I would imagine then that the man would be her husband.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Marlene on January 02, 2005, 05:24:54 PM
these photos were taken at the time of the engagement between Katherine and Richard Brandram.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Svetabel on January 03, 2005, 06:06:24 AM
Thanks you all,GDElla and Marlene!  :) :) :)

By the way, Richard Brandram is so cute... ;)
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: grandduchessella on January 03, 2005, 04:13:26 PM
I think she's one of just 2 great-grandchildren of QV left living. I think the other is one of Daisy Connaught's sons (Carl Johan?) She's apparently not in the best health (not surprising at her age).
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: PrinceEddy1864 on January 03, 2005, 08:12:19 PM
There is a lovely full page photograph of Katherine in the current issue of Majesty. Yes it was disscussed on another  thread she, know aged 91 and Carl Johann of Sweden are the last surviving great grandchildren of Victoria. As for Katherine, she was quite pretty, but does not seem to resemble either Sophie or Tino to me, wierd.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: grandduchessella on January 04, 2005, 12:01:55 AM
There was some scuttlebut that Katherine wasn't Tino's at all but the product of an affair of Sophie's. With whom I don't know, but Tino was apparently carrying on a lot. There is a large age gap between Katherine and her next oldest sibling. Or it could be gossip.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Marlene on January 04, 2005, 11:29:49 AM
Tino's mistress was Paola von Ostheim whose husband was a prince of Saxe-Weimer (who lost his title when he marriage Paola, morganatic.)

There is a book of the king's letters to Paola ...am not at home, so cannot run downstairs to pull the book.

It is entirely possible that Sophie eventually succumbed to a marital affair,  but Tino adored Katherine.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: grandduchessella on January 04, 2005, 03:19:59 PM
There was a photo (pretty grainy) of Paola in Inheritors of Alexander the Great. I think the book was Letters from a King  ??? or something like that. I've always meant to try it out.

Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: PrinceEddy1864 on January 04, 2005, 07:25:15 PM
Well I feel kinda stupid, I was unaware of Sophie's alleged infedelities. Is anything else known about Sophie's extramarital partner or whatever he was?
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Marlene on January 04, 2005, 07:57:14 PM
"]There was a photo (pretty grainy) of Paola in Inheritors of Alexander the Great. I think the book was Letters from a King  ??? or something like that. I've always meant to try it out."


I may have that picture of Paola as I inherited most of the late George Tantzos' photos.   The book is called  A King's Private Letters  (being the letters by King Constantine of Greece to Paola Princess of Saxe=Weimar during the years 1912 t0 1923.  
Mark Kerr wrote the preface.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Marlene on January 04, 2005, 07:58:54 PM
", I was unaware of Sophie's alleged infedelities. Is anything else known about Sophie's extramarital partner or whatever he was?"

Just rumors .. no one named (if there was a someone.)  I have a special affection for Sophie as she was born the same day as me - and in fact the only descendant of QV to have that birthdate until the 1970s.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: PrinceEddy1864 on January 04, 2005, 08:07:58 PM
I share the same birthdate as Edward VIII, June 23rd. Perhaps that is why David is a favorite of mine as well. I am not sure off the top of my head if any more of Victoria's descendants share my birthday. Ithink it is just David.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Paul on January 20, 2005, 03:49:51 PM
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As for Katherine, she was quite pretty, but does not seem to resemble either Sophie or Tino to me, wierd.


Oddly, she reminds me of Queen Marie of Romania or her sister, Victoria Melita. Also, I see some resemblance to Elisabeth of Hesse-Darmstadt- especially in the eyes & the nose.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Martyn on January 20, 2005, 05:01:47 PM
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Oddly, she reminds me of Queen Marie of Romania or her sister, Victoria Melita. Also, I see some resemblance to Elisabeth of Hesse-Darmstadt- especially in the eyes & the nose.



You're quite right, she does have a look of Ducky and Missy....
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Angie_H on August 03, 2005, 02:21:49 PM
Is this Sophie?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/booboogbs1/m197501121530.jpg
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on August 03, 2005, 05:02:37 PM
Yes, with Princess Katherine. :)
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Angie_H on August 03, 2005, 05:07:36 PM
thanks Mandie :D
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on August 03, 2005, 06:02:51 PM
your welcome.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Alicky1872 on August 03, 2005, 06:16:13 PM
Oh wow! I've seen lots of pictures taken on that day, but never that image before! Lovely!! I think Sophie looks stunningly beautiful.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: grandduchessella on August 07, 2005, 11:11:34 AM
Here's another one from that sitting:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/balkans/sophie26child3.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: PrinceEddy1864 on August 07, 2005, 09:10:44 PM
I agree I have never seen that particular one Angie. I absolutly love it.  :o ;D Katherine was just the cutest baby.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on January 21, 2006, 04:20:50 PM
I found this picture in Inheritors of Alexander the Great by G. Nicholas Tantzos. It was title Princess Catherine (Tino and Sophie's daughter), but i dont think it is Catherine, i have seen pics of Catherine as a child, and thats not her, so maybe it Queen Olga, Princess Alexandra (Aline) or an other greek/ Danish Princess as a child.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/landt017.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 21, 2006, 06:58:40 PM
Could be Princess Alexandra, who married Grand Duke Paul. She had the Queen Olga look about her.  ???
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Alicky1872 on January 22, 2006, 06:42:25 AM
Yes, I would agree with that. It has to be Aline. Lovely photo by the way!!  :D
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Alicky1872 on January 22, 2006, 09:36:48 AM
I still have to get a hold of that book...it's been years since Grandduchessella recommend it to me! It's a very scarce book!
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Svetabel on January 23, 2006, 12:44:52 AM
Definitely that is Alexandra! Nice picture,thnks, Mandie! :)
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on January 23, 2006, 07:18:28 AM
Thanks Mrs. Eddy! (hows little Rosie? :), the least picture I have seen of her is darling!) and thank you Svetabel dear!  :)

But really Much thanks to Mr. Tantzos for having the picture in the book.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 23, 2006, 12:32:23 PM
Yes...I wonder where he is now... ???
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Alicky1872 on January 23, 2006, 05:35:31 PM
Sadly he has been deceased for some time. Awhile back on another thread, Marlene Konig mentioned this fact, and that he had left the bulk of his collection to her.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: grandduchessella on January 23, 2006, 11:30:57 PM
Yes, it's a shame. He seemed to have a real interest in the Greek royals.  :(
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Marlene on February 02, 2006, 10:16:25 AM
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I still have to get a hold of that book...it's been years since Grandduchessella recommend it to me! It's a very scarce book!


Very, very scarce book.  I believe the final print run was under 2000.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Marlene on February 02, 2006, 10:17:08 AM
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Yes, it's a shame. He seemed to have a real interest in the Greek royals.  :(



george certainly did as he worked for the king here in the USA ... and his father served King Paul and King Constantine in Greece.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Marlene on February 02, 2006, 10:17:42 AM
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Yes...I wonder where he is now... ???


In Heaven.  George died more than a decade ago.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Marc on February 09, 2006, 02:35:00 PM
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/auersperg22/Grprincess.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Marc on February 09, 2006, 02:43:15 PM
I just found this portrait ''Portrait of a lady''!She remindes me so much of Princess Helen of Greece/Romania,but I am also puzzled because it is done by an Austrian painter(forgot his name),so maybe it could be Elisabeth of Greece/Törring-Jettenbach,or maybe even Olga Greece/Yugoslavia...What do you think(of course if this is indeed a princess)?Does anybody else sees some resemblance?
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Laura_ on February 09, 2006, 03:07:13 PM
indeed !!!the resemblance with Helen is striking!!! :o

just look at those eyes...
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 10, 2006, 07:43:13 PM
Either Helen or Irene...they can look real alike in some photos and...some angles too.  ???
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 17, 2006, 10:32:58 AM
I think she wasn't a Princess of Greece as the others were. Also yes she had her own issues... :(
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: TulinnDon on July 11, 2008, 07:22:03 AM
Here a few photos coming from our private family-photos-album.
Without any mention.
We only know that some people, perhpas the children, should be Russian but living in Greece.
Why ? ?
Who ? ?
 
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p322/DonTulinn/Nicolas%20Victor/albumphotosdeNICOLAS1002.jpg)



(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p322/DonTulinn/Nicolas%20Victor/albumphotosdeNICOLAS1005.jpg)

(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p322/DonTulinn/Nicolas%20Victor/albumphotosdeNICOLAS1007.jpg)



What do these photos inspire to you ?



Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Rani on December 05, 2009, 01:45:50 PM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/25ftx86.jpg)

I donīt know who this ladies are. Can anyone help me?
Are they Italian or Greek, I donīt know...
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 05, 2009, 02:13:49 PM
Queen Victoria Eugenie of Spain, wife of King Alfonso XIII, with her two daughters Infanta Maria Cristina and Infanta Beatriz.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Rani on December 06, 2009, 09:38:54 AM
Queen Victoria Eugenie of Spain, wife of King Alfonso XIII, with her two daughters Infanta Maria Cristina and Infanta Beatriz.


Thank you!
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: REMI on December 07, 2009, 11:43:50 AM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/25ftx86.jpg)

I donīt know who this ladies are. Can anyone help me?
Are they Italian or Greek, I donīt know...

Attention, please: l'infanta Beatriz is on the left and L'infanta Maria- Cristinais on the right

REMI
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 07, 2009, 12:05:15 PM
Beatriz is the one who looked more like Alfonso and Maria Cristina was the blonde one.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 07, 2009, 03:06:39 PM
Maria Christina was pure battenberg and Beatriz, even tho she looked like her paternal grandfather, was beautiful
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: grandduchessella on December 07, 2009, 04:16:17 PM
The way I always remember who is who (of the daughters) is that they looked the complete opposite of the grandmothers they were named after. Beatriz looked more like Maria Christina and vice versa.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 07, 2009, 04:19:59 PM
hahaha i never realized about that!. Good one!
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 17, 2010, 08:19:24 AM
I found this one as princess Margaret of greece. Is that really her?. Thanks in advanced!

(http://i46.tinypic.com/zvdb0y.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Svetabel on June 17, 2010, 08:29:50 AM
Yes, that's her.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 17, 2010, 08:33:15 AM
How changed she looks! thanks you
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: grandduchessella on June 17, 2010, 01:47:42 PM
Yes, it's her. She is wearing her grandmother-in-law's ruby parure (from Bolin?) that had been a wedding gift to Marie from her father Alexander II. It was left to Margarita's mother-in-law Alexandra of Hohenlohe-Langenberg and then onwards.
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 17, 2010, 06:31:31 PM
Yes. Sandra asked her mother to give the parure to her (much to the dismay of her other sisters). The interesting is that I never saw a photo of Sandra wearing this ruby parure. However it seems to be a favourite of Margarita (Sandra's daughter-in-law). The piece was sadly sold off and the ruby flowers from the tiara dismantaled.  :(
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: kmerov on July 29, 2010, 08:37:46 AM
The ID on this couple is King Alexander I and Aspasia Manos, but they don't like them at all. Would anyone know who they are?
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Greece/alexanderaspasia.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 29, 2010, 11:41:05 AM
Definitely not Aspasia and Alexander !
Title: Re: Help with Identification
Post by: grandduchessella on July 29, 2010, 01:12:09 PM
No way in heck! It doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to either one save that Alexander had a moustache as well.