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Discussions about Russian History => Imperial Russian History => Topic started by: Rodney_G. on February 12, 2011, 12:22:41 PM

Title: genealogy- a semantic/logic question
Post by: Rodney_G. on February 12, 2011, 12:22:41 PM
 In thinking about past Russian Imperial Family members, I was struck by this question or concept. How many[ i]paternal[/i]great grandmothers does one have ? I have one paternal (on my father's side) grandmother , but would I have two paternal great-grandmothers? I guess that's possible but it sounds funny.

Put another way,and making it more tricky, is my father's []maternal[u grandmother   my paternal  great-grandmother? That is, paternal simply because it's through my father's family line?
This was triggered by a Romanov family reference, but it applies to any genealogy, and I wondered what the right word or expression wold be.
Title: Re: genealogy- a semantic/logic question
Post by: Forum Admin on February 12, 2011, 04:14:34 PM
It sounds weird, but when you diagram out a family tree, you actually have two Paternal Great Grandmothers.  Your Paternal Grandfather (your Father's Father) had a mother,  Paternal Grandmother One, AND his wife (your Paternal Grandmother) also had a mother, your second Paternal Great Grandmother. Took me a moment to reason this out for you.

Title: Re: genealogy- a semantic/logic question
Post by: Rodney_G. on February 14, 2011, 12:33:13 PM
 Yes, I'm confident of it by the genetics and logic but it's just the wording of it in English. "My paternal great-grandmother" refers to a particular individual,  of course, but that formulation doesn't preclude there being another one, which obviously there was. I guess there's a natural linguistic or semantic analogy to what's going on when we say, for instance, "my mother", of whom there is definitely only one.