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Title: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Lanie on January 04, 2005, 01:56:14 AM
This thread will contain all of the information about Marga Boodts and her claim to be the Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna.  Edited by Alixz 05/27/2009



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Now this is a story that is truly a head-scratcher.  Marga claimed to be Grand Duchess Olga, rescued from the Ipatiev House through secret arrangements made by her mother.  She said that she was at prayer one day in a Church near the Ipatiev House (yes, I KNOW!   )  She was kneeling at a prie-dieu, praying away, when a young girl in "peasant dress" came and knelt at the prie-dieu next to her.  She whispered to "Olga" that they should exchange missals.  "Olga" handed hers over, and received the young girl's in turn.  Opening it, she read a short note telling her to go into the sacristy when she was done praying.  A little while later, she wandered over to the sacristy, where the young girl joined her.  They then exchanged clothes, and "Olga" -- now dressed as a peasant -- left with a pair of monarchist officers who were hiding outside the side door of the Church.  It was explained to her that her mother Alexandra had arranged through a series of secret notes, to effect "Olga"'s rescue because she knew that Alexei was not likely to live to adulthood, and therefore "the hope and future of the dynasty" rested on "Olga"'s shoulders.  The young girl had volunteered to die in "Olga"'s place, which she allegedly did on the night of 16/17 July.

The interesting thing about this Marga Boodts is that she tried to run this story twice, the first time in the 1930's, when she was arrested, charged with fraud, convicted, and expelled from France.  At this trial, her possible true identity as a minor Polish Countess was tentatively established -- though she might also have been a Dutch woman from Utrecht. She spent the war years there, living with apparent relatives. She then resurfaced in the late 40s or early 50's, this time in Italy, where she had some increased success with her story, convincing, for example, Prince Friedrich of Saxe-Altenburg of her veracity.

The conviction of the 30s haunted her to an extent, but ironically, she denied her identity as the 1930's Marga Boodts, all the while affirming her identity as Grand Duchess Olga.

There is a lot more detail about her, but this is the gist of the story.  There are two photographs of truly appalling quality that I have sent to Rob for him to kindly post.  They are photocopies from newspapers, one from the thirties, and one from the fifties.  I'm not one who sets a whole lot of store in photo-identity parades, but I am a little more confident in ruling her out as Olga than I am in ruling out AA as Anastasia -- because Olga had an outstanding physical feature in her prominent forehead, which I am pretty sure is missing from both these pictures.

Anyway...


I never knew her "story"...how amusingly entertaining!  Didn't one of Irene's boys end up claiming he believed she was Olga (just like he said AA was AN)?
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Abby on January 04, 2005, 10:58:28 AM
Wow very interesting! How could Olga have been in a church outside the Ipatiev house when the family wasn't even allowed to leave the garden though? Oh well a good story nonetheless! I remember reading about Marga Boodts in various publications but I didn't know that much about her and am eager to see what she looks like!
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Helen_Azar on January 04, 2005, 11:35:15 AM
That's some story. I never heard it before or the name Marga Boodts. I am sure there is a lot more where that came from. Are these actual photographs? They look more like very bad sketches!
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Janet_W. on January 04, 2005, 12:40:29 PM
The dead, it is assumed, can suffer no more. Nevertheless, when someone like this comes forward, the tragedy is threefold: for those who pin their hopes on the surivor's story being true; for those who truly have managed to survive and whose veracity now will also be in question; and for the actual person or personages whose lives are so bereft that they are compelled--via psychological disorders or cruel chicanery--to assume someone else's identity.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Abby on January 04, 2005, 01:24:58 PM
Are they really photos from a newspaper? They are very hard to make out...impossible to see the features!
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Georgiy on January 09, 2005, 02:54:52 PM
A prie-dieu and a missal?! So when did GD Olga become Roman Catholic?! ;) ;D

It would take a huge leap of the imagination to think that a peasant girl no matter how close the resemblance may be could fool guards into thinking she was a Romanov! (Not that I would take the story seriously anyway...)

Maybe someone with computer skills can photoshop and enhance those pics of Marga Boodts?
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Annie on January 09, 2005, 04:04:05 PM
I'm always interested in other claimant stories :)
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: marina on January 17, 2005, 07:11:30 AM
Is somebody read "tsar's daughters" written by Jacqueline Monsigny? This woman met a man the duc Alexis of Anjou I think and this man pretended to have Maria Nicolaievna as grand mother. Monsigny did not believed him but however they became friend. About the age of 40, this duc died suddenly, we do not know how; in the same time, died his mother(so the daughter of Maria). They just decided to be recognised as Romanov. Before dying, Alexis told this story to the french autor:
In this book, Monsigny wrote that during this famous night of july 1918, only the tsar has been killed maybe with Alexei,Olga became Magda Boots, she would live in Italy near the lake of Côme where she helped children without parents; she would died in 1978(?). Alexandra and Tatiana died in Auschwitz during the war(can you imagine this?). Anastasia would have been Anna Anderson(I believe in this) and so Maria got married, had 2 girls, lived first in Africa, and then lived in Italy with Olga(sister that she loved the most:she called her daughter Olga). She died quietly in 1970.
Monsigny is CONVINCED of this. Isn't it flabbergasting, she give so much details about the place of the tomb of Olga(burried in Italy) for example. I also almost believe her. And you?      
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: James_Davidov on January 17, 2005, 07:52:26 AM
...I have serious doubts Alexandra and Tatiana would have perished in a German concentration camp.  Other than being German, wasn't Hitler interested in maybe re-establishing the monarchy in Russia??

Hitler was Austrian.  I don't think, though that he was interested in killing off any supposed survivors of the House of Romanov.  That was Stalin.  Modified by Alixz 08/17/10
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: James_Davidov on January 17, 2005, 07:53:04 AM
...wait, I have serious doubts about the whole story :P
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Forum Admin on January 17, 2005, 09:34:25 AM
Read Volkov. I think he pretty much can shut the door on this claimant...
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Helen_Azar on January 18, 2005, 09:43:58 PM
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I think the reason that they did not attend the burial  had something to do with them not wanting to be seen as taking sides in the debate over who was the true pretender to the Romanov Throne.
 
Jeremy, I think you're right, I remember reading something like this too. One branch of the Romanov family did not agree with the burial semantics and would not attend the ceremony while the other branch was totally fine with it. I think the British royal family probably just wanted to stand clear of that whole thing. Also, I think many Russians or else members of the Romanov family are still angry at the British for not accepting the IF into Britain when they were asked to in 1917, so many people still blame them for indirectly causing their death, or rather for failing to prevent it... So them being there may have been sort of controversial in that sense....
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 10, 2005, 08:19:44 PM
Hi:

     I read an old post here about Magda Boodts, this woman that lived in Italy and claimed she was Olga Nicolaievna. I'm not a Magda Boodts believer , but as all people who loves all things related to the Romanovs, I would like to know infos about pretenders. Some of them are very interesting, and others are absolutely hilarious and stupid, but I like to know more, and more about them.  ::)

     Well; I wanted to know Magda Boodts story, for she is, by far, the less famous of Romanov pretenders and I can't find any info on her. I read an old post who said that Greg King or Penny Wilson (I can't remember wich of them) had write this lady's story right here, but I'm not able to find it. I only saw a "picture" of her, who was hilarious for it seems an identi-kit!  :)

      Thank you!

       RealAnastasia
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Laura Mabee on May 10, 2005, 09:04:46 PM
I've never heard of her, I would be interested in more information as well. Does anyone have a pic?  :-/
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: lexi4 on May 10, 2005, 11:39:32 PM
Me too Laura. This is the first I heard of her. Does anyone have any information to share?
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: LisaDavidson on May 10, 2005, 11:58:28 PM
There's not much to tell, she lived on Lake Como, few people believed in her, and she has presumably passed on by now.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: stepan on May 11, 2005, 04:20:50 PM
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Me too Laura. This is the first I heard of her. Does anyone have any information to share?


Look at the Imperial claimants thread, "claimants-list,facts,history". There´s some info on Marga Boodts. She died in 1977. Very few people took her claim seriously.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 11, 2005, 07:22:36 PM
Thank you, Helen and Stepen. Actually is not that I think that Magda (or Margda, as I saw wrote in some books) Boodts was Olga Nicolaievna. I only wanted to know in which was her claim, and of course, her "story". Anna Anderson had her "story" (she changed it several times, but she had it, anyway  ::) ), as Eugenia Smith-Smetisko had hers, and of course Heino Tammet had his own story.

  I like to know all the impostors (or not impostors) stories, for they are part of Romanov family's legend.

  
  RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: lexi4 on May 12, 2005, 12:18:45 AM
Thanks guys. I like to read the claimant stories too. So I appreciate the information.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: AGRBear on May 13, 2005, 05:28:54 PM
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                    Marga Boodts          

"A woman calling herself Grand Duchess Olga was living from the twenties in various parts of Europe and in 1939 she settled in nortern Italy under the name of Marga Boodts. she said she was rescued by a loyal officer and then taken to Vladivostok,across China and on by sea to Hamburg,Germany.She was then recognized,she claimed, by the exiled Kaiser Wilhelm,who assured her financial independence during his lifetime. Later on her fortune foundered, but she had an enduring supporter in the shape of prince Sigismund of Prussia,the Kaiser´s nephew and first cousin of the real Grand Duchess Olga. In an interview at his home in Costa Rica in 1974 Prince Sigismund confirmed that he was still convinced of "Olga´s" authenticity. He had met her and said: "We spoke of so many familiar matters that an outsider could not have known about,because they were things that had happened between us two." When we visited Mrs Boodts at her Italian home in 1975 she declined to speak about herself or past events. nothing at all emerged during the to support the notion that she was either the Grand Duchess Olga or even a Romanov."  
This is a quotation from "The file on the Tsar" by Mangold and Summers.  It seems that this woman got some support and was taken seriously by some people.  After Prince Sigismund  recognized her in 1957 he introduced her to the hereditary grand Duke of Oldenburg who was a godson of the tsar. He took a keen interest and supplied her with funds until his death in 1970.  It seems that Marga Boodts lived a very withdrawn life and avoided publicity. I haven´t seen a photo of her and it seems very little has been written about her. It would be interesting if anybody had any more information on her.  She was certainly one of the more intersting claimants.
   


p. 192 Summers and Mangold's book THE FILE ON THE TSAR.


In their notes on p. 374 they tell their source:  "Mrs Boodts claims the Kaiser asked Frau von Schevenbach, the daughter of a friend, to look after her.  This arrangement was interrupted by the war in 1939, and "Olga" was in penury after Frau von Schevenbach's death.  After prince Sigismund reconized her in 1957, he introduced her to the Hereditary Grand Duke of Oldenburg, a godson of the tsar.  He took a keen interst and supplied Mrs. Boodts with funds until his own death in 1970."

AGRBear
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: AGRBear on May 13, 2005, 05:38:18 PM
According to Massie in the ROMANOVS, THE FINAL CHAPTER p. 147 he tells us that Marga Boodts lived in a villa on Lake Como in Italy.  Massie claims that she claimed she was recieving money from the Pope and the Kaiser.

AGRBear
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 13, 2005, 06:36:59 PM
How interesting, Bear! I didn't read this book yet, for I can't find it in my country, but it sounds really interesting. His "Nicholas and Alexandra" is excellent. As French's would said a real "chef-d'oeuvre". I don't know anything - or almost anything- about Margda, Magda or now "Marga"  ;D Boodts, but two little details: she lived in Italy, near Como's lake and she never made official claims.

  And, thank you for the "photo's explanation"! Now I understand what happened with them.

   RealAnastasia-
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 13, 2005, 06:51:37 PM
In the "strange" Blair Lovell's book about Anastasia (to name it without use awful words  ;D) the author claims that Anna Anderson said that "Margda Boodts could have been her sister"  :D Later in her life, when she was senile and more excentric than ever, she also "recognized" this Dutch lady (I guess it was Alexandra de Graaf) as her "lost fifth sister".

  We may also recall that Eugenia Smith "recognized" Michael Goloniewsky, as being her "brother", the Tsarevitch Alexis..."I scratch your back; your scratch mine"  ;D

   It would have been hilarious that AA would travel to Como to see "Olga", and would recognize her. Pretty strange she didn't do so.  ::)

  RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: xX_Mashka_Xx on June 13, 2005, 07:20:33 PM
I find this whole Marga Boodts story absolutely ridiculous, especially now that the bones have been found, and Olga has been positively identified.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: RealAnastasia on June 14, 2005, 03:32:17 PM
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Is the story that Penny told of Marga Boodts gone?


It was gone, but Bear reposted it for us in a thread I've open not-long ago: "Margda Boodts Again". You'll see her name wrote in three differents ways: "Margda", "Magda" and "Marga"...LOL.  ;D

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: AGRBear on June 14, 2005, 07:25:24 PM
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I'm wondering why Penny dissapeared completely from this forum, as well as Greg. They both are excellent historians, and they must keep fighting for that they believes that it's the right theory ( I said this, "theory", for in history almost nothing is for sure, nor forever. Theories are not forever) . They seems to have "escaped" from the Alexander Palace Discussion Board, only for a couple of people shouted to them "..I saw it in History Channel", "You must accept AA was FS for DNA said it", and so...

   You are good historians guys! I admire you sincerily! You have evidence, you have theories and facts to answer the constant "DNA...DNA..." thing, and you have no right to leave us without your golden interventions here. We NEED you, Penny and Greg!

   RealAnastasia. ;) :D


Your answer:

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Annie

This is PRECISELY the sort of nonsense in which you engage, goading people on, and then flailing about claiming you are being unjustly attacked.  Although Penny can speak for herself, I have to point out that she has never said she does not accept the DNA results; what we have tried to do is reconcile the unanswered questions in the case of FS and AA, and here there are, I repeat, serious issues that have to be investigated before one can make any COMPREHENSIVE judgment.  It doesn't do, in history, to obtain a reasonable answer and then simply ignore that which conflicts with that answer.  One probes, investigates, opposes everything in an effort to seek solutions and try to unravel lingering mysteries.  You take a set of well-known, accepted facts, and you challenge them every possible way you can, to explore all possibilities, before you accept the simple answer.  When doing "Fate of the Romanovs," we spent months going round and round the issue of the four "Officer" letters, trying to work out any scenario under which they might possibly not all have been part of a Cheka plot; in the end, having exhausted all possibilities, we concluded that the present view-that all were forgeries intended to trap the Romanovs-was correct, but we challenged ourselves, as indeed any good historian or investigator would do.

I'm not going to argue with you.  You have made posts claiming you want to stand up for the "truth," but yet you engage in endless, unsubstantiated speculation that has no basis in fact, and cry foul when someone challenges you.  In our work, we rely on hard, intensive research, with original documents and interviews, and a vast collection of papers and books, and I'm more than happy to defend our positions, because they are based in fact, not in speculation or opinion, or "feeling" as you so often phrase it.

Your complete obsession with this issue befuddles me; Penny and myself, according to your insinuations, are pushing some nebulous agenda to promote AA as Anastasia, for a book we haven't written, and to stir up interest in a book that wouldn't even be published for 4-5 years even if we sat down and did nothing else but work on it starting today.  And yet, how many posts have either of us made in these threads?  And what's your last count?  If, as you insist, the issue is settled to you, move on-there are others here who share the same opinions you do and can speak to the issues raised.  And yet, you continue, insisting on the last word, and on this sort of above childish, antagonistic remark, which says much more about you than it does about anything Penny has posted.  Your apparent insecurity over the issue seems to drive you to such juvenile displays.  There's clearly nothing to be done about it.  As such, while I haven't posted here for a while owing to both work on my new book and to the distasteful tone to be found in these AA threads, your remarks this morning have just proven to me that it's better to remove myself completely from further reading or posting of any thread or topic on this board.  I'm sure you won't mourn the loss, but I took pride in bringing various pieces of information here and sharing it with others, and learning from others as well.  But it's time for me to a grown-up, and to leave this sort of antic to you and whatever supporters you undoubtedly will say you have.  Perhaps one day you will reach a point where you can live without your obsession over the issue; until then, I can live nicely without your endless insinuations, ill-informed opinions, and snide remarks.

Greg King
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: RealAnastasia on June 14, 2005, 07:33:47 PM
Thank you, Bear! I was not a forum member when Greg King posted this answer to Annie. I missed the whole "affaire"  ;D. Hmmmm...I may understand Greg well now. But we need Penny and him here, all the same!  :D

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: AGRBear on June 14, 2005, 07:35:51 PM
And, you were right,  you did stumble over my copying Penny's quote and here it is:

Marga Boodt:  More on her from Penny Wilson.

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Now this is a story that is truly a head-scratcher.  Marga claimed to be Grand Duchess Olga, rescued from the Ipatiev House through secret arrangements made by her mother.  She said that she was at prayer one day in a Church near the Ipatiev House (yes, I KNOW!  ::) )  She was kneeling at a prie-dieu, praying away, when a young girl in "peasant dress" came and knelt at the prie-dieu next to her.  She whispered to "Olga" that they should exchange missals.  "Olga" handed hers over, and received the young girl's in turn.  Opening it, she read a short note telling her to go into the sacristy when she was done praying.  A little while later, she wandered over to the sacristy, where the young girl joined her.  They then exchanged clothes, and "Olga" -- now dressed as a peasant -- left with a pair of monarchist officers who were hiding outside the side door of the Church.  It was explained to her that her mother Alexandra had arranged through a series of secret notes, to effect "Olga"'s rescue because she knew that Alexei was not likely to live to adulthood, and therefore "the hope and future of the dynasty" rested on "Olga"'s shoulders.  The young girl had volunteered to die in "Olga"'s place, which she allegedly did on the night of 16/17 July.

The interesting thing about this Marga Boodts is that she tried to run this story twice, the first time in the 1930's, when she was arrested, charged with fraud, convicted, and expelled from France.  At this trial, her possible true identity as a minor Polish Countess was tentatively established -- though she might also have been a Dutch woman from Utrecht. She spent the war years there, living with apparent relatives. She then resurfaced in the late 40s or early 50's, this time in Italy, where she had some increased success with her story, convincing, for example, Prince Friedrich of Saxe-Altenburg of her veracity.

The conviction of the 30s haunted her to an extent, but ironically, she denied her identity as the 1930's Marga Boodts, all the while affirming her identity as Grand Duchess Olga.

There is a lot more detail about her, but this is the gist of the story.  There are two photographs of truly appalling quality that I have sent to Rob for him to kindly post.  They are photocopies from newspapers, one from the thirties, and one from the fifties.  I'm not one who sets a whole lot of store in photo-identity parades, but I am a little more confident in ruling her out as Olga than I am in ruling out AA as Anastasia -- because Olga had an outstanding physical feature in her prominent forehead, which I am pretty sure is missing from both these pictures.

Anyway...


And, you are right,  we do need Penny and Greg back because they gave us tons of information which they have at their fingertips and we don't.

AGRBear
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Inquiring_Mind on June 14, 2005, 07:41:01 PM
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And, you were right,  you did stumble over my copying Penny's quote and here it is:

Marga Boodt:  More on her from Penny Wilson.


And, you are right,  we do need Penny and Greg back because they gave us tons of information which they have at their fingertips and we don't.

AGRBear


I also agree wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: imperial angel on October 27, 2006, 11:13:19 AM
The dead, it is assumed, can suffer no more. Nevertheless, when someone like this comes forward, the tragedy is threefold: for those who pin their hopes on the surivor's story being true; for those who truly have managed to survive and whose veracity now will also be in question; and for the actual person or personages whose lives are so bereft that they are compelled--via psychological disorders or cruel chicanery--to assume someone else's identity.

That's a great summation of the whole survivor thing to me. That's very very well put. As for Marga Boodts, did she not claim to be Olga and she lived near a lake in a villa, was it not Austria or something? One book I read hinted there was something strange about claim, which has never been, to my mind, publicized as much as some.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: imperial angel on October 27, 2006, 11:19:36 AM
Yes, like attracts like, I guess, although it is rather sad, about these claimants recognizing one another. One wishes that they had recognized themselves for what they were, which was as deluded imposters, and individuals who needed help, in many cases. It is funny- I find the more silly claimants hilarious, and whenever I read about them I am laughing. Magda or Marga was never taken seriously, I guess, but what exactly were the premises of her claim? I don't believe in her, but I was just curious what her '' Olga escape story'' was-it probably didn't make sense, but what was it?
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: LisaDavidson on October 28, 2006, 11:26:01 AM
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                    Marga Boodts          

"A woman calling herself Grand Duchess Olga was living from the twenties in various parts of Europe and in 1939 she settled in nortern Italy under the name of Marga Boodts. she said she was rescued by a loyal officer and then taken to Vladivostok,across China and on by sea to Hamburg,Germany.She was then recognized,she claimed, by the exiled Kaiser Wilhelm,who assured her financial independence during his lifetime. Later on her fortune foundered, but she had an enduring supporter in the shape of prince Sigismund of Prussia,the Kaiser´s nephew and first cousin of the real Grand Duchess Olga. In an interview at his home in Costa Rica in 1974 Prince Sigismund confirmed that he was still convinced of "Olga´s" authenticity. He had met her and said: "We spoke of so many familiar matters that an outsider could not have known about,because they were things that had happened between us two." When we visited Mrs Boodts at her Italian home in 1975 she declined to speak about herself or past events. nothing at all emerged during the to support the notion that she was either the Grand Duchess Olga or even a Romanov."  
This is a quotation from "The file on the Tsar" by Mangold and Summers.  It seems that this woman got some support and was taken seriously by some people.  After Prince Sigismund  recognized her in 1957 he introduced her to the hereditary grand Duke of Oldenburg who was a godson of the tsar. He took a keen interest and supplied her with funds until his death in 1970.  It seems that Marga Boodts lived a very withdrawn life and avoided publicity. I haven´t seen a photo of her and it seems very little has been written about her. It would be interesting if anybody had any more information on her.  She was certainly one of the more intersting claimants.
   

p. 192 Summers and Mangold's book THE FILE ON THE TSAR.


In their notes on p. 374 they tell their source:  "Mrs Boodts claims the Kaiser asked Frau von Schevenbach, the daughter of a friend, to look after her.  This arrangement was interrupted by the war in 1939, and "Olga" was in penury after Frau von Schevenbach's death.  After prince Sigismund reconized her in 1957, he introduced her to the Hereditary Grand Duke of Oldenburg, a godson of the tsar.  He took a keen interst and supplied Mrs. Boodts with funds until his own death in 1970."

AGRBear

According to Prince Alfred of Prussia, who is Prince Sigismund's son, his father never met any of the claimants. He was asked to write to Boodts and to AA, and to pose questions to them which he felt only the grand duchesses would know the answers. I didn't ask him about Boodts, but apparently Anderson's answers were correct. However, there was no "recognition" as Sigismund never actually met them.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: AGRBear on October 31, 2006, 02:46:10 PM

Perhaps the word "recongnition" was not face to face meeting but through letters of question and answers.

AGRBear
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Padawan Ryan on July 09, 2008, 11:11:09 AM
This is what was on Wikipedia about her:

Marga Boodts, (died 1976), claimed to be Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna of Russia. Boodts lived in a villa at Lake Como in Italy. Money supporting her was said to come from the Pope and Kaiser Wilhelm.[1] Olga's first cousin, Prince Sigismund of Prussia, was convinced of the authenticity of Boodts' claim. He introduced her to the Prince of Oldenburg, a Godson of the Kaiser, who lent her financial support. Most historians do not accept her claim.[2] Michel Wartelle a french canadian historian wrote a book including new testimonies from high rank people that Marga Boodts was really the Grand-Duchess Olga Nicolaievna, L'Affaire Romanov ou le mystère de la maison Ipatiev, Louise Courteau, Quebec, Canada,2008.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: LisaDavidson on February 02, 2009, 07:17:55 PM
This is what was on Wikipedia about her:

Marga Boodts, (died 1976), claimed to be Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna of Russia. Boodts lived in a villa at Lake Como in Italy. Money supporting her was said to come from the Pope and Kaiser Wilhelm.[1] Olga's first cousin, Prince Sigismund of Prussia, was convinced of the authenticity of Boodts' claim. He introduced her to the Prince of Oldenburg, a Godson of the Kaiser, who lent her financial support. Most historians do not accept her claim.[2] Michel Wartelle a french canadian historian wrote a book including new testimonies from high rank people that Marga Boodts was really the Grand-Duchess Olga Nicolaievna, L'Affaire Romanov ou le mystère de la maison Ipatiev, Louise Courteau, Quebec, Canada,2008.

Believe who you will. Prince Sigismund's son, Alfred says that his father never met either woman. Having never met them, he was in no position to introduce either one to anyone.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Tina Laroche on February 03, 2009, 08:45:45 AM
Marga Boots is fat!

Her name is Boodts... ;) And I agree, she was quite a ridiculous claim.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 13, 2012, 04:18:48 PM
Expect not to cause problems at seeing that the thread is devoted only to Margda Boodts, I was checking on the Russian verssion of wikipedia about the Romanov claimants and I found several unknow "Olgas" to me, I don't remember none of them:

1) Konchetta Fedele. She died in Argentina. There's no real proof that she herself declared that was Olga although her children returned to their "true name". As their major proof  many of her followers say that in her photos she looks totally like the Grand Duchess Olga (I expect to see a few). Her verssion of the "escape" was that many of the members of the IF were able to travel to Poland and then to Germany, all this as result of a "secret threaty" between the Sovietic government and the Kaiser Wilhelm II.

2) Olga Andromeda (aka - Olga Romanov Andromed Gellar) Who's she?!? Any information is welcome!  ;)

3) Sarah Osbourne... again, who's she??

Sorry for the bad translation, I had to use google translator from Russian to understand it!!  :-[

Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Romafan96 on August 19, 2012, 10:37:20 AM
Hi guys!

I've recently come across a *new* Olga claimant. A man on a Romanov Facebook page claims that the massacre at Yekaterinburg was staged and the entire family made it out of the country and settled in a plush estate in Poland. The whole thing was a cover-up which the governments of Japan, America and Britain were in on. I'll copy/paste the whole story he told me later. Anyway, "Olga Nikolaievna" (Nicholas II's oldest daughter)  apparently wrote her autobiography in Italy in 1955 and it is now being published but not in English. Just want to know your thoughts on this story. Cheers, guys!

Link to the Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Am-Alive-Estoy-Viva-The-unpublished-memoirs-of-the-last-Romanov/278177712297249

Link to the book's Amazon page: http://www.amazon.es/Estoy-viva-memorias-in%C3%A9ditas-Romanov/dp/8427038968
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: TimM on August 20, 2012, 04:50:15 PM
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I've recently come across a *new* Olga claimant. A man on a Romanov Facebook page claims that the massacre at Yekaterinburg was staged and the entire family made it out of the country and settled in a plush estate in Poland. The whole thing was a cover-up which the governments of Japan, America and Britain were in on. I'll copy/paste the whole story he told me later. Anyway, "Olga Nikolaievna" (Nicholas II's oldest daughter)  apparently wrote her autobiography in Italy in 1955 and it is now being published but not in English. Just want to know your thoughts on this story

If this guy really believes this, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell to him...
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Romafan96 on August 21, 2012, 02:58:02 AM
Here's the story, Tim.

"The rest of the family were taken to Perm, the evening before the staged massacre. The Tsar had been taken before that night, and informed his wife and family that "They are going to kill me". Not in a physical sense, however, but to publish in the media that he was dead. Baroness Buxhoeveden (lady in waiting to the Tsarina) was there, disguised as a nurse. She knew. The commissar was an American Agent. Read "Yankee Commissar", by Serguis Riis.There were many initiatives made by Germany to Russia and the newly formed Kerensky government as well as the government of Lenin. Other books and a documentary is coming out from England which will further help younger people interested in this period in history. Specifically the Imperial Russian period.

The Tsarevich received a heavy sword blow to the skull which caused a permanent indentation to the skull and scar to his temple. The skull bones found at the so called investigation sight did not have a skull that resembled the Tsar's permanent injury. If one goes to the bottom of the page, there are additional references that further clarify the results as being inconclusive. Dr. Nagi or Dr. Maples as well as the Russian Orthodox Church denounce the scientific examinations and DNA tests as evidence, for it too was compromised. Nicholas could not be formally identified, he escaped to China, he lived in Poland on a very large estate. President Franklin D. Roosevelt was aware of his residency and existence there. Our research and investigation team found the bodies and ashes of three of the daughters, Olga, Maria, and Anastasia. They were not in Russia!

If you read, "Rescuing The Czar", by James P. Smythe, A.M., PhD. (1920) Two diaries identify the successful covert operation to rescue the family through channels of the Kaisier Wilhelm II, and The Vatcian. This book was actually pulled from retail shelves by order of then President Woodrow Wilson in 1920. The first diary was written by the American Agent, Serguis Riis, who was known as "Fox". I have both met and interviewed his son on numerous occasions.. I have several documents he gave me, which includes formal invitation by George V and his wife to attend a reception at Buckingham Palace in his honor. His diary identifies visiting with the family privately, 'bouncing' "Lillybet" (Queen Elizabeth II) on his lap before her bedtime. She gives him a kiss on the cheek. If you truly wish to know anything about the operation that successfully took the Imperial family out of Russia, you need to read the 1920 version of what happened. It is paramount to comprehend this. Without it you will truly be lost in the bowels of the propaganda of the period that allowed the family to vanish.

Serguis Riis, wrote the book, "Yankee Commissar", which identifies his infiltration into the Ipatiev House where he instruct 'Prisoner Romanov' and his family on the operation planned for their rescue, the night before the so called murder is scheduled. There is also additional evidence that clearly authenticates donations to the secret covert operation headed by Kaiser Wilhelm II and The Vatican. They were already away from Russia as these funds in Silver were pouring in. I have documentation that shows $75,000 contributed by the Taisho Emperor of Japan and $50,000 by Emperor Pu Yi of China. We also know that there were support teams in place while traveling through Tibet, ordered by the Thirteenth Dalai Lama. I have various U.S. Department of State documents released to me from F.O.I.A. requests which provide extensive detail of the cabinet of then President Woodrow Wilson giving the order to mine as much silver as possible, and have it shipped to Russia for financing the operation. As a matter of fact, the Captain of the Presidential Yacht, was one of the lead agents sent over by The President.

The largest Sunday magazine in Spain will be publishing the books formal release tomorrow. The magazine is like that of Parade Magazine in the USA. I should receive a scanned copy of this by Monday. I will post it here. I have also posted last weeks recent news media from Patriarch Kirill who states the ROC will be making a new statement with regard to their stand on the bones which they do not believe are the Imperial Family. This news he sates come from the headquarters of ROCOR in New York. I do know that a New York publishing firm is looking at contracting the book: "Estoy Viva: Memorias de ultima Romanov" in English. This will be the third such translation from its original German autobiography, not Belgian as so called historians have stated on Wiki."

Thoughts on this, guys?
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Alixz on August 21, 2012, 09:44:54 AM
My first question would be. When did this agent visit King George V and his family?  Queen Elizabeth II was born in 1927 and would not have been "bounce -able" for at least a year after that.

Also Queen Elizabeth's father was Prince Albert the second son of King George V and why would there be no mention of Prince David, the future King Edward VIII?

Next, I own two copies of The Hunt For the Czar by Guy Richards and a lot of the information in it is quite hard to believe. I read it first in the 1970s and then reread it about 25 years later.

There was a poster here on the forum in the past who knew Guy Richards and she and her family had dinner with him on occasion. I seem to remember that she thought he was a "good story teller".

I do wonder when Grand Duchess Olga learned to read and write in Italian? She could barely read and write in Russian and German and English which were the three prime languages of her family and then there was French, the language of the court.

And you may have made an error in posting, but if the Tsarevich had received a blow to the head from the broadside of a sword, it would have killed him. If you posted wrong and meant the Tsar, then he already had a blow to the head from his trip to Japan in 1890 and should have had a crease in his skull from that.

But, please, post more. This sub forum is called The Myths and Legends of Survivors, so it would be interesting to hear more of this story and see where you are taking us.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Forum Admin on August 21, 2012, 10:01:14 AM
People people people. PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF DNA TESTING!

"the DNA was too compromised" is the clue to this entire HOAX. 

It is IMPOSSIBLE to manipulate PCR testing of DNA to achieve a desired result. 100%.

The DNA sequenced by Dr. Gill, Melton et all TWICE, by five separate labs each time (a total of TEN times!) produced 100% IDENTICAL RESULTS.

The 100% Identical results:  Two older humans, one male, one female.  The male: 100% IDENTICAL match to Grand Duke George Alexandrovich (Nicholas II's brother) including a UNIQUE haplytype mutation.  The female: 100% match to the Queen Victoria line of descent and to HH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, establishing without question it was Alexandra Feodorovna.

FIVE SEPARATE CHILDREN. Four female, one adolescent male.  EACH showing 100% sibling genetic relationship to each other. EACH showing 100% as children of the above male and female.  The adolescent male also shows the distinct marker for hemophilia!

As I wrote elsewhere, As Dr. Teri Melton said to me personally "They can re test all they want. The results will always be the same. The tests will never be less conclusive, but can only become more conclusive as more loci are tested."

Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Romafan96 on August 21, 2012, 11:15:07 AM
My first question would be. When did this agent visit King George V and his family?  Queen Elizabeth II was born in 1927 and would not have been "bounce -able" for at least a year after that.

Also Queen Elizabeth's father was Prince Albert the second son of King George V and why would there be no mention of Prince David, the future King Edward VIII?

Next, I own two copies of The Hunt For the Czar by Guy Richards and a lot of the information in it is quite hard to believe. I read it first in the 1970s and then reread it about 25 years later.

There was a poster here on the forum in the past who knew Guy Richards and she and her family had dinner with him on occasion. I seem to remember that she thought he was a "good story teller

I do wonder when Grand Duchess Olga learned to read and write in Italian? She could barely read and write in Russian and German and English which were the three prime languages of her family and then there was French, the language of the court.

And you may have made an error in posting, but if the Tsarevich had received a blow to the head from the broadside of a sword, it would have killed him. If you posted wrong and meant the Tsar, then he already had a blow to the head from his trip to Japan in 1890 and should have had a crease in his skull from that.

But, please, post more. This sub forum is called The Myths and Legends of Survivors, so it would be interesting to hear more of this story and see where you are taking us.

Hi Alixz! May I first put say that I believe this story is just as false as you do. It is riddled with errors and if such a huge operation then it documents MUST have been in the Russian State Archives. Also, Dr. Maples never said that the remains weren't authentic. He may have questioned the way in which they were tested, but he was a firm believer that all the children, including Anastasia died. He even went as far as pointing to the skeletons and saying whom each belonged to. As for the Orthodox Church, they too believe that the entire family was killed as they celebrate their feast day on July 17th. The only thing they dispute is the remains, but that doesn't mean they don't think they weren't killed that night.
Numerous Romanov biographers have had access to these state archives and they all point towards the fact that the entire family was killed. It would have come out long before now. Also, I simply copy/pasted what the guy told on Facebook. He claims that the because the blood stains from the Otsu incident didn't match Nicholas' skeleton it wasn't him, when the results for that test were inconclusive. It didn't mean to say that the blood didn't belong to Nicholas. The DNA from the shirt became too contaminated to analyse. I'll definitely post more of what he's gone around telling people. People are actually starting to believe it which is slightly worrying, but nonetheless, people always while believe in stuff like this.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Romafan96 on August 21, 2012, 11:20:15 AM
My first question would be. When did this agent visit King George V and his family?  Queen Elizabeth II was born in 1927 and would not have been "bounce -able" for at least a year after that.

Also Queen Elizabeth's father was Prince Albert the second son of King George V and why would there be no mention of Prince David, the future King Edward VIII?

Next, I own two copies of The Hunt For the Czar by Guy Richards and a lot of the information in it is quite hard to believe. I read it first in the 1970s and then reread it about 25 years later.

There was a poster here on the forum in the past who knew Guy Richards and she and her family had dinner with him on occasion. I seem to remember that she thought he was a "good story teller".


I do wonder when Grand Duchess Olga learned to read and write in Italian? She could barely read and write in Russian and German and English which were the three prime languages of her family and then there was French, the language of the court.

And you may have made an error in posting, but if the Tsarevich had received a blow to the head from the broadside of a sword, it would have killed him. If you posted wrong and meant the Tsar, then he already had a blow to the head from his trip to Japan in 1890 and should have had a crease in his skull from that.

But, please, post more. This sub forum is called The Myths and Legends of Survivors, so it would be interesting to hear more of this story and see where you are taking us.




Yes, Alixz, after re-reading my original post I believe the man was talking about Tsar when mentioning the sword blow to the forehead. He says the sword caused permanent damage to his skull, none of which were found on his skeleton. I've never read anywhere that Nicholas' skull suffered permanent damage, but I know he had ha scar of about 9 inches for the rest of his life after the incident.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Romafan96 on August 21, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
People people people. PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF DNA TESTING!

"the DNA was too compromised" is the clue to this entire HOAX. 

It is IMPOSSIBLE to manipulate PCR testing of DNA to achieve a desired result. 100%.

The DNA sequenced by Dr. Gill, Melton et all TWICE, by five separate labs each time (a total of TEN times!) produced 100% IDENTICAL RESULTS.

The 100% Identical results:  Two older humans, one male, one female.  The male: 100% IDENTICAL match to Grand Duke George Alexandrovich (Nicholas II's brother) including a UNIQUE haplytype mutation.  The female: 100% match to the Queen Victoria line of descent and to HH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, establishing without question it was Alexandra Feodorovna.



FIVE SEPARATE CHILDREN. Four female, one adolescent male.  EACH showing 100% sibling genetic relationship to each other. EACH showing 100% as children of the above male and female.  The adolescent male also shows the distinct marker for hemophilia!

As I wrote elsewhere, As Dr. Teri Melton said to me personally "They can re test all they want. The results will always be the same. The tests will never be less conclusive, but can only become more conclusive as more loci are tested."



After watching 'Forensic Detectives' 1,000,000 times (it really is very good!) I'm willing to accept the DNA results as nothing but FACT.  When discussing with the man in question I always bring up the issue of DNA but he dismisses it as 'compromised'. Not good enough at all. He never says WHERE the DNA was compromised or WHO's idea it was to tamper with the results. By the time the skeletons had been unearthed, the Russians had no need to cover up the crime anymore. The people who did it were long dead and the glasnost wanted to see the end of the Soviet Union period.

As for the five children being conclusively identified, one of the girls was also tested to be a heamophillia carrier. It was either the Grand Duchess found in the 2007 grave, or the youngest girl identified in 1991 (I can't remember which!), so it really was either Maria or Anastastia.

But yeah, I never knew that it was impossible to manipulate PCR testing. Thanks for that info!
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Romafan96 on August 21, 2012, 11:44:12 AM
More info on this story:

"You, like me once, go and assume you know this and that! It was pure Bolshevik propaganda that the Romanov's were executed, they had escaped and Lenin didn't want anyone to know especially the white Royaltist army! They all spilt up. Nicholas, Alexandra and Alexei went to live in Germany/ Poland, while the girls went and lived in Italy and eventually became good friends of pope Pius XII. There tombs have even been found in Italy, go through some Harrys links and eventually you will find pics of the links Harry got himself!!! Going onto Alexi, well what didn't he do! Alexei in later life actually had an affair with Prince Michael of Kent's Mother who had a son who is still living today in N Ireland!! Alexi took on the name of Nikolia so search and you will find the info. As I said before the Tombs of Alexandra, Anatasia, Tatina, and Olga's were found in Italy however the rest were never found Nicholas's is presumed somewhere in Germany or Poland, Maria we haven't a clue and Alexis is probably somewhere in N Ireland! Tara you should respect the elderly wether they know more or not, Harry is a top professor and works for many Univirsites around the Globe! He has expolored from Italy to the USA to Japan to Russia and knows way more than you!! He has worked with Russian princesses and great scientists have I anymore o say??

Picture of the tomb of Grand Duchess Maria: http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv253/1toscany/TombeCcileCzapska.jpg
Picture of Grand Duchess Maria and Olga in old age, supposedly: http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv253/1toscany/Mariaolgab.jpg
Article from an Italian newspaper regarding the Grand Duchesses visit: http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv253/1toscany/IMG_0741.jpg
Here's a link to the Facebook pages where all these claims are being made: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Romanovs/150196918980. Look for posts from Harry Blanton Binkow.

"Perhaps you have heard that the story of what happened at the Ipatiev House in 1918 was a big lie! There was no massacre of the Imperial Family.

In 1920 a book published in the Western Hemisphere was released to provide explanation of the truth. The most influential was "Rescuing The Czar", by WIlliam P. Smythe.

By the 1970's news from England revealed the existence of documents proving the evacuation of the Imperial Family was real. In 1976, two British journalists. Summers & Mangold, working for BBC, published another book, "The File On The Tsar", were new discoveries identified secret negotiation between the Bolsheviks and the German EMpire to liberate the Tsarina and her children. They also revealed the existence of documents from the Sokolov investigation that were not included in his published report of 1924. Those documents are filed in famous universities in The United States, Since 1983, strong rumors about the survival of Alexandra Feodorovna and her children spread through Europe, where two daughters of the Tsar, Olga and Maria lived in secrecy, protected by Queen Helena of Italy and The Vatican.

A relevant fact is that next month, September 2012, the largest editorial house in Spain (Planeta) is to release the unpublished memoirs of Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna Romanova.

The autobiography of Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna. It was to have been published in 1956, however The Vatican would not allow it. It is not as silly a book like that of Greg King and Penny Wilson. It is an autobiography of her life after being rescued from Russia. The entire family was rescued from Russia by Kaiser Wilhelm II and The Vatican. Planeta is the largest editorial house in Spain. They would never consider the publication of this book without its insurmountable credibility and evidence. For your information, the archives of Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna in Italy, comprise 35,000 documents. The Orthodox Church, The Vatican, and the Government of Russia, The Romanoff Family Association, Russian Nobility Association, BBC, History Channel, Telemundo, Smithsonian, Royal Russia, as well as many other authors and organizations involved in the true fate of the Romanov's, are aware of this publication which certainly will state its precedent in history. I believe you will be very surprised."

NB. I am aware that King and Wilson are users of this forum so if they happen to come across this mention of their book then I do apologise!
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Forum Admin on August 21, 2012, 11:50:37 AM
"compromised" DNA could never produce the results gotten.  Nicholas' DNA was sequenced first, for example, before his brother George.  It contains that unique single mutation.  How could anyone have known, or gotten the exact DNA elsewhere to "contaminate" the grave remains with Nicholas' own DNA? Not physically possible.  The same goes for the hemophilia markers found in the two children...

Whoever you are "talking" to is a Flat Earth believer.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: TimM on August 21, 2012, 12:02:52 PM
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"You, like me once, go and assume you know this and that! It was pure Bolshevik propaganda that the Romanov's were executed, they had escaped and Lenin didn't want anyone to know especially the white Royaltist army! They all spilt up. Nicholas, Alexandra and Alexei went to live in Germany/ Poland, while the girls went and lived in Italy and eventually became good friends of pope Pius XII. There tombs have even been found in Italy, go through some Harrys links and eventually you will find pics of the links Harry got himself!!! Going onto Alexi, well what didn't he do! Alexei in later life actually had an affair with Prince Michael of Kent's Mother who had a son who is still living today in N Ireland!! Alexi took on the name of Nikolia so search and you will find the info. As I said before the Tombs of Alexandra, Anatasia, Tatina, and Olga's were found in Italy however the rest were never found Nicholas's is presumed somewhere in Germany or Poland, Maria we haven't a clue and Alexis is probably somewhere in N Ireland! Tara you should respect the elderly wether they know more or not, Harry is a top professor and works for many Univirsites around the Globe! He has expolored from Italy to the USA to Japan to Russia and knows way more than you!! He has worked with Russian princesses and great scientists have I anymore o say??

Picture of the tomb of Grand Duchess Maria: http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv253/1toscany/TombeCcileCzapska.jpg
Picture of Grand Duchess Maria and Olga in old age, supposedly: http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv253/1toscany/Mariaolgab.jpg
Article from an Italian newspaper regarding the Grand Duchesses visit: http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv253/1toscany/IMG_0741.jpg
Here's a link to the Facebook pages where all these claims are being made: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Romanovs/150196918980. Look for posts from Harry Blanton Binkow.

"Perhaps you have heard that the story of what happened at the Ipatiev House in 1918 was a big lie! There was no massacre of the Imperial Family.

In 1920 a book published in the Western Hemisphere was released to provide explanation of the truth. The most influential was "Rescuing The Czar", by WIlliam P. Smythe.

By the 1970's news from England revealed the existence of documents proving the evacuation of the Imperial Family was real. In 1976, two British journalists. Summers & Mangold, working for BBC, published another book, "The File On The Tsar", were new discoveries identified secret negotiation between the Bolsheviks and the German EMpire to liberate the Tsarina and her children. They also revealed the existence of documents from the Sokolov investigation that were not included in his published report of 1924. Those documents are filed in famous universities in The United States, Since 1983, strong rumors about the survival of Alexandra Feodorovna and her children spread through Europe, where two daughters of the Tsar, Olga and Maria lived in secrecy, protected by Queen Helena of Italy and The Vatican.

A relevant fact is that next month, September 2012, the largest editorial house in Spain (Planeta) is to release the unpublished memoirs of Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna Romanova.

The autobiography of Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna. It was to have been published in 1956, however The Vatican would not allow it. It is not as silly a book like that of Greg King and Penny Wilson. It is an autobiography of her life after being rescued from Russia. The entire family was rescued from Russia by Kaiser Wilhelm II and The Vatican. Planeta is the largest editorial house in Spain. They would never consider the publication of this book without its insurmountable credibility and evidence. For your information, the archives of Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna in Italy, comprise 35,000 documents. The Orthodox Church, The Vatican, and the Government of Russia, The Romanoff Family Association, Russian Nobility Association, BBC, History Channel, Telemundo, Smithsonian, Royal Russia, as well as many other authors and organizations involved in the true fate of the Romanov's, are aware of this publication which certainly will state its precedent in history. I believe you will be very surprised."

Wow, this guy is really out to lunch.  These stories crack me up. 

What will he say next, that he saw Anastasia having lunch with Elvis at a Burger King in Cleveland?
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: edubs31 on August 21, 2012, 02:19:49 PM
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Wow, this guy is really out to lunch.  These stories crack me up. 

What will he say next, that he saw Anastasia having lunch with Elvis at a Burger King in Cleveland?

Think we can get BlessOTMA Anne to draw us a picture of that one Tim? :-)
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: TimM on August 21, 2012, 05:00:31 PM
LOL!  That would be an interesting picture to see.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: kolia van ginneken on February 16, 2013, 06:24:17 AM
Is somebody read "tsar's daughters" written by Jacqueline Monsigny? This woman met a man the duc Alexis of Anjou I think and this man pretended to have Maria Nicolaievna as grand mother. Monsigny did not believed him but however they became friend. About the age of 40, this duc died suddenly, we do not know how; in the same time, died his mother(so the daughter of Maria). They just decided to be recognised as Romanov. Before dying, Alexis told this story to the french autor:
In this book, Monsigny wrote that during this famous night of july 1918, only the tsar has been killed maybe with Alexei,Olga became Magda Boots, she would live in Italy near the lake of Côme where she helped children without parents; she would died in 1978(?). Alexandra and Tatiana died in Auschwitz during the war(can you imagine this?). Anastasia would have been Anna Anderson(I believe in this) and so Maria got married, had 2 girls, lived first in Africa, and then lived in Italy with Olga(sister that she loved the most:she called her daughter Olga). She died quietly in 1970.
Monsigny is CONVINCED of this. Isn't it flabbergasting, she give so much details about the place of the tomb of Olga(burried in Italy) for ex


The   empress   in   exile   hermine   reuss    knew   this  to    why   nobody    searches   in  that   direction   she   met    boots   and   anastasia  several  times     kolia


ample. I also almost believe her. And you?      
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Georgiy on February 27, 2013, 03:17:52 AM
"Anastasia having lunch with Elvis at a Burger King in Cleveland?"

Someone should do a photoshop of that! Maybe put Rasputin in at the serving counter.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Jen_94 on February 27, 2013, 06:51:23 AM
"Anastasia having lunch with Elvis at a Burger King in Cleveland?"

Someone should do a photoshop of that! Maybe put Rasputin in at the serving counter.


I can just picture that! Agreed someone should do a photoshop of that!
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Georgiy on March 01, 2013, 10:58:19 PM
Of course it must be the real Anastasia that is used, but put Anna Anderson and Eugenia Smith somewhere in the mix too. Come on talented people out there - surely someone on this board is able to do that!
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 13, 2013, 10:08:23 AM
Well, don't think that claimants haven't thought about photoshoped images... the supporters of Maria Marti's claims took seriusly the idea of the photomontages! They have a pair of photoshoped images to support their bizarre claims!... :-/
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Romafan96 on March 16, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
The best photoshopped work from a claimant I've seen is when they posted a DNA profile which contained 'Nicholas and Alexandra's profiles', to prove that they were a Romanov child. Stuff like that goes beyond delusion, to be honest.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Jen_94 on March 16, 2013, 06:13:02 PM
That is crazy! Which claimant was that?
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Romafan96 on March 17, 2013, 10:36:25 AM
This was on a Facebook profile. I think it's been taken down now due to complaints. The entire profile was disturbing to say the least. If I do happen to find the photo I will post it here.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: TimM on March 17, 2013, 03:16:32 PM
No doubt that is why it was taken down.
Title: Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna - Marga Boodts
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on February 26, 2016, 02:14:22 PM
Any idea of who is this woman? She doesn't look like Marga Boodts or Concetta Fedele to me, but I could be wrong.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/olga%20claimant_zpszupqlrez.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/olga%20claimant_zpszupqlrez.jpg.html)