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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Windsors => Topic started by: Lucien on May 23, 2011, 10:40:13 AM

Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on May 23, 2011, 10:40:13 AM

TRH the Duke and Duchess will pay an official visit to Canada from june 30th till july 8th.

From july 8th untill july 10th the Couple will visit California. :)

The couple will return to London in time for the Trooping the Colour on june 11th.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on May 23, 2011, 01:03:57 PM

TRH the Duke and Duchess will pay an official visit to Canada from june 30th till july 8th.

From july 8th untill july 10th the Couple will visit California. :)

The couple will return to London in time for the Trooping the Colour on june 11th.

And so their work representing the UK and the Monarchy together, begins.

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on May 24, 2011, 12:12:02 PM
Tonight is the State Banquet at Buckingham Palace in honor of the visit of President and Mrs. Obama.  This will be our first chance to see the Duchess of Cambridge at such an event - and wearing a tiara.  I wonder which tiara the Queen will have loaned her for the occasion?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on May 24, 2011, 01:33:56 PM
Chris, I'm very excited about the Duchess of Cambridge's appearance tonight and CANNOT WAIT to see which tiara she wears. So exciting!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on May 24, 2011, 02:39:37 PM
Hmm, I just read a report that the Cambridge's will NOT be attending the banquet tonight.  Not confirmed
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on May 24, 2011, 03:38:49 PM
Crossing my fingers that they do. They looked fantastic in the photos released today with the Obama's. Not as tan as I thought they might be. Both looked so great!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on June 05, 2011, 07:55:44 AM
The Telegraph today reports that William and Kate will move into Kensington Palace within a few weeks, making a "small property" at the palace their London base on a temporary basis until a suitable larger London property becomes available.  Their main home will remain the small farmhouse near William's job, and their Household Offices will remain at St. Jameses.

The article says their new KP home will NOT be Diana's former apartments, as those are currently in use as offices.  I wonder which apartment have been offered them?  Margaret's was handed over to HRP and is open to the public, the Glouchesters still occupy the one just west of that one, and the Michaels of Kent still have the one next door to Diana's old one.

And I wonder what options are on the table for the "larger permanent London base?"  The article suggested that the Queen had offered the couple an apartment at Buckingham Palace, although I'm not sure which one that could be?!?  From the floor plans I've seen, and aside from the Belgian guest suite, there are only six royal apartments at BP (The Queen's and Prince Phillip's in the North Wing the Wessex, Princess Royal and York apartments in the East Wing, and one more on the floor directly above Phillip's rooms (The King's Apartments).  That last one above Phillip's is the one vacant one as far as I can tell.

By the way, the Princess Royal's London base has always confused me.  Is it in BP or St. James?  I've heard both - the Monarchy website says her apartments are in St. James, but a few years ago in a televised interview. the Duke of York was leading Merideth Viera on a tour of Buckingham Palace and, as they walked down the Principal Corridor in the East Range, he pointed out the door to the Wessex apartment and the Princess Royal's apartment before reaching his own.  Does Anne have two, or has she moved from one to the other?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 10, 2011, 09:40:35 AM

TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended a charity gala dinner at Kensington Palace last night.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 13, 2011, 09:07:37 AM
The Duke and Prince Harry "battled" in the Sentebale polo cup yesterday,Williams team won:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=12-06-2011%20Polo

courtesy PPE ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: LauraO on June 21, 2011, 08:09:34 AM
what to make of kate's decision to not accept  free items from designers etc, good or bad idea? i suppose she's just trying to show privilege isn't going to make her someone else etc,  but i heard someone say that it might have been better if she'd accepted the free items and then just auctioned them off for charity?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on June 21, 2011, 08:51:21 AM
Hm, difficult one, but Cherie Blair has become quite notorious for her pursuit of freebies, so may be better to avoid any possible ambiguity.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 21, 2011, 12:54:36 PM
Happy 29th Birthday to Prince William, The Duke of Cambridge ! ! !
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 21, 2011, 10:04:03 PM
Happy 29th Birthday to Prince William, The Duke of Cambridge ! ! !


Hear Hear!!!Many happy returns of the day:

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?specialid=1126&savesearch=1&flush=1

  :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 22, 2011, 01:33:32 PM
The official photo's for the 2011 Royal Canadian Tour by TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/canadianheritage-patrimoinecanadien/5860260130/in/photostream

 :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lindelle on June 22, 2011, 06:46:13 PM
The Telegraph today reports that William and Kate will move into Kensington Palace within a few weeks, making a "small property" at the palace their London base on a temporary basis until a suitable larger London property becomes available.  Their main home will remain the small farmhouse near William's job, and their Household Offices will remain at St. Jameses.

The article says their new KP home will NOT be Diana's former apartments, as those are currently in use as offices.  I wonder which apartment have been offered them?  Margaret's was handed over to HRP and is open to the public, the Glouchesters still occupy the one just west of that one, and the Michaels of Kent still have the one next door to Diana's old one.

And I wonder what options are on the table for the "larger permanent London base?"  The article suggested that the Queen had offered the couple an apartment at Buckingham Palace, although I'm not sure which one that could be?!?  From the floor plans I've seen, and aside from the Belgian guest suite, there are only six royal apartments at BP (The Queen's and Prince Phillip's in the North Wing the Wessex, Princess Royal and York apartments in the East Wing, and one more on the floor directly above Phillip's rooms (The King's Apartments).  That last one above Phillip's is the one vacant one as far as I can tell.

By the way, the Princess Royal's London base has always confused me.  Is it in BP or St. James?  I've heard both - the Monarchy website says her apartments are in St. James, but a few years ago in a televised interview. the Duke of York was leading Merideth Viera on a tour of Buckingham Palace and, as they walked down the Principal Corridor in the East Range, he pointed out the door to the Wessex apartment and the Princess Royal's apartment before reaching his own.  Does Anne have two, or has she moved from one to the other?





Chris I've been trying to get a hold of that link for ages but I can't find it.
I thought  the PR had apartments at BP still to this day with offices at St James.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Dasha on June 22, 2011, 08:08:30 PM
The official photo's for the 2011 Royal Canadian Tour by TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/canadianheritage-patrimoinecanadien/5860260130/in/photostream

 :)

This is a nice picture of them.  I'm looking forward to following their Canada/US tour. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 22, 2011, 10:19:12 PM
The official photo's for the 2011 Royal Canadian Tour by TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/canadianheritage-patrimoinecanadien/5860260130/in/photostream

 :)

My goodness...they are gorgeous. It makes me so happy to see Kate next to William in photos anymore. They are such a lovely couple...and they must be having an absolute blast!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 27, 2011, 02:55:35 PM
Does anyone here know whether or not the sapphire earrings Kate has been pictured wearing routinely were a wedding gift?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Lh4yYvOg2rY/TgifQRdIIiI/AAAAAAAAPmM/A53uVP1Ck5U/s1600/4444444.jpg

It also looks as though this white gold bracelet with a single charm on it bearing a coronet and the initial "C" may have also been a wedding gift. You will have to scroll down through the article to see a close up of the bracelet.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2008029/Duchess-Cambridge-hand-operation-medals-Irish-Guards-military-role-royal.html

Has it been listed anywhere the gifts that Kate received? I'm really interested in the jewelry she was gifted.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 29, 2011, 03:19:30 AM

TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will start their Official Visit to Canada tomorrow,june 30th.The itinerary & statement by the private secretary,Jamie Lowther Pinkerton:

http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/newsandgallery/focus/a_statement_by_jamie_lowther_pinkerton_private_secretary_to__648572317.html


 :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 29, 2011, 10:02:26 AM
Okay, mystery solved.

Kate's sapphire earrings reportedly were a gift from William and are made from his mother's sapphire earrings after being re-worked. I believe the original earrings were gifted to Princess Diana by the Saudi Royal Family.

Her charm bracelet was a gift from Camilla. Each side of the charm bears a "C"...one side has Camilla's royal cypher and the other Kate's. What a lovely gift and gesture by Camilla.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 29, 2011, 02:16:28 PM

TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will start their Official Visit to Canada tomorrow,june 30th.The itinerary & statement by the private secretary,Jamie Lowther Pinkerton:

http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/newsandgallery/focus/a_statement_by_jamie_lowther_pinkerton_private_secretary_to__648572317.html


 :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13949050

 :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 30, 2011, 08:43:45 AM

TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will start their Official Visit to Canada tomorrow,june 30th.The itinerary & statement by the private secretary,Jamie Lowther Pinkerton:

http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/newsandgallery/focus/a_statement_by_jamie_lowther_pinkerton_private_secretary_to__648572317.html


 :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13949050

 :)

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are on their way to Canada where they will arrive later today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2009840/In-navy-Prince-William-coordinated-Kate-board-plane-Canada-day-royal-tour-begins.html

Catherine Duchess of Cambridge appears to me as a natural in her new role,this couple surely will thrill the Canadians,a great match!



Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 30, 2011, 11:26:45 AM
The Couple is due to arrive in Ottawa.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13979606

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13969844

 :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 30, 2011, 02:28:09 PM

Catherine Duchess of Cambridge appears to me as a natural in her new role,this couple surely will thrill the Canadians,a great match!


Lucien,

I was watching the live coverage of Their Royal Highnesses and you are absolutely right about Catherine..she is a natural ! ! ! This is going to be a fun trip to watch.

Regards,

RoyalWatcher  (aka =Annie=)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 30, 2011, 02:28:26 PM
The Couple is due to arrive in Ottawa.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13979606

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13969844

 :)

Watch the arrival of TRH here,live:

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110630/royal-visit-william-kate-110630

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/1239665812/ID=1899831492

People gathering in Ottawa to welcome the Duke and Duchess:

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=15947803&pos=3

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=15948093&pos=5

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=15948121&pos=7

  :)

Courtesy ANP

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 30, 2011, 11:09:41 PM

Whreathlaying ceremony at War Monument,Ottawa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkcW1uYQtrc&feature=player_embedded

Speech by HRH The Duke of Cambridge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-iaLZPhpH4&feature=youtu.be

 :)

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on July 01, 2011, 04:52:24 AM

Whreathlaying ceremony at War Monument,Ottawa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkcW1uYQtrc&feature=player_embedded

Speech by HRH The Duke of Cambridge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-iaLZPhpH4&feature=youtu.be

 :)




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13979606

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on July 01, 2011, 10:05:53 AM

Canada Day today!

Congratulations to all our friends,posters & lurkers in Canada!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-13979858

 :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 01, 2011, 06:55:31 PM
I have had tears of pride, joy and happiness seeing these two together. Their interaction and Williams warmth towards his Princess is more than I had ever expected. Princess Kate was born for this type of royal duty…what a natural.

It’s probably just me, but I’ve seen William steal a glance at Kate and it like he is secretly thinking…”My God, she’s the love of my life and is willing to do all of this public royal duty and she’s brilliant at it.” His love for her shows through in so many different gestures and looks. I AM LOVING THIS ! ! !
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on July 02, 2011, 12:29:25 AM
TRH will travel to Quebec today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13988025

 :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on July 02, 2011, 07:49:15 AM
TRH will travel to Quebec today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13988025

 :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14000369

 :)...They're doing great!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Dasha on July 02, 2011, 05:33:30 PM
I have had tears of pride, joy and happiness seeing these two together. Their interaction and Williams warmth towards his Princess is more than I had ever expected. Princess Kate was born for this type of royal duty…what a natural.

It’s probably just me, but I’ve seen William steal a glance at Kate and it like he is secretly thinking…”My God, she’s the love of my life and is willing to do all of this public royal duty and she’s brilliant at it.” His love for her shows through in so many different gestures and looks. I AM LOVING THIS ! ! !

You have said it beautifully.  I love watching them interact with each other and with their future subjects/supporters.  I have a theory, that if one has the right support system, one is able to do almost anything, and this couple's support for one another is making public duties not as daunting.  And yes, the Duchess is brilliant at this.  I love (and want) her people skills.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Eddie_uk on July 04, 2011, 04:00:23 PM
Apparently the Duchess's clothes have been called boring by some. However I really admire them! In the age of mini skirts, ugly shoes, enormous bags and low cut vests it is so refreshing to see the lady like & dainty Duchess.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 04, 2011, 05:29:35 PM
Agreed, Eddie_uk.

I think the rags make stuff like that up because there isn't anything controversial or bad to say about Princess Kate or Prince William.

She has looked AMAZING throughout. Major kudos to her for pretty much picking out her entire wardrobe for this tour. Not an easy task in the slightest.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on July 04, 2011, 06:07:22 PM
Hi,

The people who are criticizing Catherine are simply petty and jealous;  and quite frankly boring themselves.

She looks marvellous and very proper for a young lady and moreover, a royal now!!

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on July 05, 2011, 03:23:24 AM
The Duchess is sensibly turned out in clothes which suit her and what she is doing.

The press have been moaning about her clothes since she first appeared on the scene. I really don't know what.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on July 05, 2011, 11:16:50 AM
Criticizing Katherine's clothes?! What?! I love her outfits! So elegant and simple. I have noticed a lot of navy blue, which looks very good on her. I love the way she wore her hair in that little looped bun one day during the tour.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Dasha on July 05, 2011, 12:27:36 PM
I think Catherine dresses to the occasion and therefore, looks appropriate and elegant.  I think being able to choose her outfits is helpful on the tour as well, because she can be comfortable and confident in her choices.  'Boring' is definitely not the word that describes her wardrobe.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on July 05, 2011, 12:44:03 PM
The Duke and Duchess have visited Prince Edward Island,they are in Yellow Knife,North West Territories now:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14012948

 :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Dasha on July 07, 2011, 10:24:18 PM
In Calgary:

Meeting a little girl whose wish was to meet Kate (a Princess):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2012370/A-dream-come-true-Kindly-Kate-moved-tears-hug-child-cancer-sufferer.html

A picture at the rodeo (or more like arrival):
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05mIadG1Z31gV/x610.jpg
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Douglas on July 08, 2011, 12:21:30 PM
The Duke and Duchess will visit Los Angeles today.  They are most welcome except for one of their stops along the way. 

They plan to make a point of putting a spotlight on Los Angeles' well known Skid Row district.  How rude for foreign nationals to come to a city known for it's glamour and style, only to focus on it's more seedy side.  Why don't the Royal couple visit the homeless of London? The people of LA are well aware of the problem of homelessnes, derelicts,  lost drug addicts and have been for decades.

Ask yourself.  How would it look for a mayor of Los Angeles to make a visit to London and to put a spotlight on the homeless and drug infested sections of London?   

The citizens of Los Angeles know all too well about the homeless, they don't visiting royals to be reminded of it.   
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 08, 2011, 12:52:48 PM
Douglas, with all respect, the Wales family has long been involved with the homeless, deprived and addicted in London. Particularly youth  & veterans..I may be wrong about this, but I think Diana  brought  the issue to attention'
 Still, I agree, odd place to show VIP visitors, By the same token I am sure they did not chose the itenerary. These problems are not unique to LA or anywhere. Perhaps the idea is to show common cause ?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on July 08, 2011, 05:02:18 PM
Douglas, with all respect, the Wales family has long been involved with the homeless, deprived and addicted in London. Particularly youth  & veterans..I may be wrong about this, but I think Diana  brought  the issue to attention'
 Still, I agree, odd place to show VIP visitors, By the same token I am sure they did not chose the itenerary. These problems are not unique to LA or anywhere. Perhaps the idea is to show common cause ?

Indeed Robert. Prince William took part in a documentary I think on the BBC last year, where he slept rough for a night in London among the homeless. Clearly this is an issue close to his heart.

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Douglas on July 08, 2011, 09:23:48 PM
Douglas, with all respect, the Wales family has long been involved with the homeless, deprived and addicted in London. Particularly youth  & veterans..I may be wrong about this, but I think Diana  brought  the issue to attention'
 Still, I agree, odd place to show VIP visitors, By the same token I am sure they did not chose the itenerary. These problems are not unique to LA or anywhere. Perhaps the idea is to show common cause ?

Indeed Robert. Prince William took part in a documentary I think on the BBC last year, where he slept rough for a night in London among the homeless. Clearly this is an issue close to his heart.

R.I.

I would rather this issue be close to his wallet than close to his heart...preferably both.  If their visit is nothing more than voyeuristic curiosity, it borders on the grotesque at best.

Their visit reminds me of the public exhibition galleries at the Insane Asylums in the 1850s where visitors would peer at the mentally ill as a form of entertainment.  

 The only thing that would mollify me is if the Duke wrote out a $ 1,000,000 cheque to one of the charities that struggle for funds to barely operate in the LA Skid Row district.

[Not to brag but...As for myself, I and my sister have given many large donations to charities that help the homeless.....  The LA Midnight Mission recently had to eliminate one of the main meals of the day due to lack of staff and funds.  It's nice to feel sorry but its better to do something about it if you are able to in some manner.]
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 09, 2011, 11:18:48 AM
W&K's visit to Skid Row can be likened to their visit to a Youth Center in Quebec. Their visit in LA is to see how a community arts organization is helping youngsters in the socially deprived area of down town LA. Inner-City Arts uses visual arts and performance to give homeless and poverty-hit youngsters a creative outlet.


Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 09, 2011, 11:27:57 AM
Good point, RW. I might add, that both Charles and William have funded  projects with their own money. I think Harry as well, but he concentrates on disabled veterans and  deprived children in Africa, starting  funds with his own money. What I think is admirable, is that  their actions [W&H at least] are not just cheque book  charity. They also participate in action. And, of course their names/patronage encourages others to participate, one way or another.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Douglas on July 09, 2011, 02:55:46 PM
W&K's visit to Skid Row can be likened to their visit to a Youth Center in Quebec. Their visit in LA is to see how a community arts organization is helping youngsters in the socially deprived area of down town LA. Inner-City Arts uses visual arts and performance to give homeless and poverty-hit youngsters a creative outlet.

Thank you Robert for clarifying their visit to Skid Row.  Thank heaven the royal couple will not be bothered with seeing and touching any of the locals swigging beer out of paper bags and smoking marijuana cigarettes. What a relief they won't have to encounter  the toothless and shoeless, mumbling to themselves or shouting to the air as they eternally shunt shopping carts crammed with their worldly possessions.  Of course anyone, even slightly in touch with reality,  knows that this is what Skid Row is really all about.

Evidently the Duke and Duchess will momentarily see some underprivileged kids dance and do some art painting.  Their visit will be a very safe and sanitized version of the hell that's locally known as Skid Row which is a common phenomenon that's well known in all cities worldwide.

We can pray that some of the $4 million raised this weekend from the deep pockets of rich Americans, while having the privilege of watching the Duke play polo, will be funneled into inner-city projects.

 Let's hope so but to be honest, the whole weekend affair is cheque-book charity disguised as a polo match while schmoozing with royals.

It's rather pathetic that foreign royals have to come all the way across the planet to shame local millionaires into coughing up some cash for LA's Skid Row, which is something they should have been doing all along.  To me it would be an embarrassment to even attend the polo luncheon.  Of course millionaires have no sense of shame.   Most wouldn't dream of even getting anywhere near Skid Row....not safe,  'ya know.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 09, 2011, 03:18:13 PM
Douglas, it has been years since I was in that area- skid row.  I used to an altar boy at Saint Vibiana's. It was a challenge getting there but i have obviously survived.
  The cheque book charity bit, well,  the royals work for it. Not like  the money is going into their pockets.  I think it is great to play off the snob appeal for the benefit of less fortunate.
I am curious though, why they will not make a visit up here. Maybe time restraints, scheduling, etc. After all, most of the other royals have.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Douglas on July 09, 2011, 06:39:27 PM
Let's hope that next time the royals will visit that fabled city, that Baghdad by the Bay, that Resurrection city......San Francisco, city of the Golden Gate,... when their schedule permits.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 09, 2011, 06:45:38 PM
We are not an example of screaming teenage girls [as witnessed in Canada] nor fawning royalists,  [ we do have a few] but I am sure they would be warmly welcomed.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on July 10, 2011, 05:48:06 AM
On the BBC Radio 4 News yesterday evening there was a whole lot about the dinner with celebrities the Duke and Duchess were going to last night, with people spending £15,000 for a table. I do hope that money is going to something useful!

Incidentally, I am involved in a UK charity for homeless ex-servicemen. I went to a charity dinner recently which raised just over £1,000 for them (approx £50 per guest, most of whom are likely to do more later). For an organisation with a turnover of about £1m per year, which keeps its admin costs to an absolute minimum, £1,000 is a very useful sum indeed.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Eddie_uk on July 10, 2011, 08:33:16 AM
I wish the Duchess had worn a Tiara! I don't think it's asking too much to expect to see a few historical jewels on display, after all she is a member of the Royal Family now!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on July 10, 2011, 08:37:06 AM
I completely agree Eddie, but something tells me we're not going to see much of that from Catherine, worse luck.  :(
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Eddie_uk on July 10, 2011, 08:51:56 AM
Thanks Grace! Sad to think of so many beautiful jewels sitting in the vaults unseen! They are designed to be worn and should be at every opportunity IMO (such as dinners like these)!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 10, 2011, 10:35:34 AM
Congrats, Ann ! I support a similar charity here. I may be a pacifist, but I have huge respect for those who serve in uniform.
 I do not know about the tiara, though. In  LA, they are a cheap display, even tacky.  I would not wish  Catherine to be exposed to ridicule. Most people just would not  connect to the historical aspect. In D.C., yes. LA....iffy
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on July 10, 2011, 01:39:02 PM
W&K's visit to Skid Row can be likened to their visit to a Youth Center in Quebec. Their visit in LA is to see how a community arts organization is helping youngsters in the socially deprived area of down town LA. Inner-City Arts uses visual arts and performance to give homeless and poverty-hit youngsters a creative outlet.




Critisizing is easy while your rear is in a comfy seat,we are lucky,very fortunate indeed.
But I am really struck as to how wonderfull Catherine Duchess of Cambridge has adopted
her new role,I've said it before,but really,she is a absolute natural.And there's also a
constant interaction between the two,William and Catherine regardless whom they are
with,there's always eyes catching eyes and a smile.Love the two!!

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 10, 2011, 03:04:53 PM
This is so true and remarkably noticeable, Lucien.  A noted difference from other royal marriages.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Paul on July 10, 2011, 06:23:32 PM
It's rather pathetic that foreign royals have to come all the way across the planet to shame local millionaires into coughing up some cash for LA's Skid Row, which is something they should have been doing all along.

Look: we know that all of those "progressive, socially conscious" Westsiders are phoney limousine liberals. They only care when the cameras are rolling. That's how it is. Get over it. If it takes bringing in foreign royality to pump some help into Skid Row- so be it.

It was really nice of the Royal Couple to come in and help out. We thank them for their efforts. :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 10, 2011, 07:19:00 PM
Princess Kate is magic. Plain and simple. She brings out the best in William and through her we are able to see a side of William he has always kept closed to the outside world. She never stopped smiling these past 11 days (except of course when honoring those who have given their life in service of their country) and I have watched all the coverage. She is genuine, poised and extremely likable. How could you not? I will miss seeing them on a daily basis as they retreat back to their private sanctum in Wales. It will be a great day when these two become full time royals from this royal watcher's perspective.

From what I've read, their KP apartment will be ready for them upon their return. I'm very excited to read more about where they settle in KP. As a result of this tour, I whole heartedly hope to see HM Queen Elizabeth's personal honor badge pinned to Kate's dress at the next official royal function. She has more than earned it.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on July 11, 2011, 07:44:56 AM
I do not know about the tiara, though. In  LA, they are a cheap display, even tacky.  I would not wish  Catherine to be exposed to ridicule. Most people just would not  connect to the historical aspect. In D.C., yes. LA....iffy

I quite agree Robert.  Like Eddie, I will enjoy seeing Catherine airing out the family jewels, but there is a time and a place for tiaras - generally only at formal state functions (opening Parliament, state banquets, etc.).  Wearing them to an industry fund raising dinner in LA would be a bit tacky.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on July 13, 2011, 08:45:27 AM
The Duke and Duchess participated in a dragon boat race....watch this,look at the two..priceless!!

http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/editorial/royals/coverage/3274331.html

 ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Dasha on July 13, 2011, 03:14:19 PM
More details about Catherine's meeting with a little girl that has cancer during the trip to Canada.  Very touching.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/inside-kate-middletons-meeting-with-cancer-stricken-girl-6-2011137
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on July 19, 2011, 03:38:20 AM
A pub in Windsor has renamed itself The Duchess of Cambridge. The pub sign uses the Duchess's new coat of arms.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 19, 2011, 09:40:19 AM
Interesting Ann.   There is/was a pub in Bristol that did much same, except it was named The Princess of Wales for Diana.[it w run by friends of mine, but I have not heard from in years to know if is still there]'
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 19, 2011, 12:03:12 PM
I love the town of Windsor. So absolutely charming. I've been to the Horse & Groom directly across the street from the castle. It served probably the best fish & chips I have ever had in my life (with mushy peas of course!).

Which pub was it, Ann?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on July 20, 2011, 03:36:19 AM
The pub is directly across the street from the castle, so it might be the Horse and Groom rebranded!

I was on my push bike at the time, cycling from Plymouth to London for charity, so had to concentrate on the road rather than investigating.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on July 22, 2011, 02:22:50 PM
Queen Elizabeth II and the Duchess of Cambridge took a preview tour of Buckingham Palace's royal wedding exhibit on Friday.

And in what was probably a "you had to be there" moment, the Queen exclaimed to her granddaughter-in-law, "Horrid, isn't it? Horrid and dreadful!"

As the Telegraph and Us Weekly both recount, it was the installation of Catherine's dress and veil that elicited the strong remarks -- the dress is displayed in a dark and gloomy fashion with the veil and tiara hovering ominously above.

While the Telegraph takes the monarch at her word, adding, "It appeared the mannequin's lack of a head may have perturbed the Queen," Us Weekly says she was just joking, explaining, "The Queen, 85, showed where her grandson William, 29, got his wicked sense of humor."

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Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on July 22, 2011, 02:24:40 PM
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Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on July 22, 2011, 02:28:20 PM
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Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on July 22, 2011, 02:29:26 PM
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Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on July 22, 2011, 02:31:25 PM
The Queen and the Duchess tour the exhibit

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and look at Faberge

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Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on July 22, 2011, 02:32:17 PM
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All photos above from yahoo news
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on July 22, 2011, 02:41:06 PM
As usual, I believe the Queen's reaction is correct.  While I'm sure the intent was to give it a dramatic flair, the design and lighting of the display does seem a bit too weird.  Maybe it looks better in person than the pictures suggest?

I do find it hilarious that the Queen was so direct and vocal in her displeasure.  Her expression usually betrays her mood, but her words are usually much more subtle.  
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 22, 2011, 02:48:30 PM
It does look a bit disconcerting.  IMO would have looked better at Kensington.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on July 22, 2011, 04:15:46 PM
Robert, I agree - spooky I would call it with the weird lighting, no head on the mannequin (loved the "veil and tiara hovering ominously above" part!) and that broken piece of wedding cake (the first cut by the ceremonial sword apparently) takes me straight back to Miss Haversham!  Even the gloved hands around the bouquet look a bit sinister in the photo.  Surely they wouldn't deliberately chosen this atmosphere?  I agree the exhibition would have been better at Kensington Palace too.  The room (whichever it is) is far too big for starters.  Still, nice that people can come for a closer up look of what will be one of the most well-known wedding gowns in history...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Dasha on July 22, 2011, 05:21:29 PM
The arrangement of the veil and tiara (hovering) give this whole exhibit a very spooky feel, as many have pointed out.  Maybe more lighting and a manikin would have been a better way to go.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on July 22, 2011, 07:40:52 PM
Lovely exibit, but a bit wierd with no head... :-\
What's with the cake? It can't be real...yet it looks so very much so. How could they have made such a faithful replica cake anyways?
I love the close-up of the lace! Kate is always so poised...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RichC on July 23, 2011, 03:30:10 PM
Here's the BBC vid of the Queen pronouncing the display "horrible".  As the announcer says, "Oh, dear."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14257114

Listening to the Queen talking about the Faberge stuff is interesting too, although it's just a snippet.  

Notice that Kate is again wearing her trademark pantyhose.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 23, 2011, 11:49:32 PM
I'll be spending next weekend in London and I'm definitely going to see it!  Somehow it's easier to tell people that I'm seeing Kate's wedding dress than saying I'm thrilled to see the Faberge stuff...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 24, 2011, 12:58:11 AM
GDA, I think there are 3 or 4 of those cakes floating around.  One was chopped up and packaged as  wedding gifts, another is on tour  for fundraising. And yet another is on display at some culinary school.  No one on seems to eat these wedding cakes.
 And, in my book, the Faberge "stuff" is the better value for viewing.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 24, 2011, 02:48:09 PM
It's being reported that W&K have moved into Nottingham Cottage within the Kensington Palace grounds. This cottage is directly opposite Diana's former home (and that of Princes William and Harry) of apartments 8 & 9. This is a temporary accommodation until something more spacious becomes available like Princess Margaret's former home apartment 1a.

But, this royal watcher would like them to move into Marlborough House down a few mansions from Clarence House on the Mall. It's high time that that important property come back into the Royal fold. Quite frankly they need it. If W&K can reclaim Princess Marget's old digs (Apt. 1a), then I'd love to see them do it with Marlborough House.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on July 24, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
Hi,

I'd also like to see Marlborough House used by some member of the Royal Family - the Cambridges are a good choice...
However, The Queen gave the place to the Commonwealth Organization shortly after Queen mary died in 1953...
I wonder if she can just 'claw it back'???  Personally, I'd say, "Go for it!!"....

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 24, 2011, 09:02:04 PM
It is a rather large establishment for a young, married couple.   In any case, it has  been re-purpossed, I think something smaller would suit them.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on July 25, 2011, 08:14:51 AM
Quite so.  I think it unlikely Marlborough House will ever again be occupied by the royal family.  It's vastly larger than Clarence House, and after Queen Mary's death, it was deemed too costly to maintain for use by the Queen Mother. 

I'm a bit surprised to read that Princess Margaret's former apartment 1A at Kensington Paace is being considered.  The royal household had previously suggested their intent to phase out KP as an occupied royal residence after the current occupants depart.  On the other hand, those current residents (Glouchesters, Kents) won't likely leave for a decade or two, so the KP security cordon has to be kept at least that long.  I suppose that coincides with the period that the Cambridges would likely live there - until the present reign ends and they take over Clarence House.  Perhaps that's the timeframe the household is considering hanging on to KP.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on July 26, 2011, 08:29:06 AM

Notice that Kate is again wearing her trademark pantyhose.


I am glad that Kate wears "panty hose".  There is nothing more unsightly than uncovered legs with a beautiful dress or skirt.  It is a finishing touch to an elegant ensemble.

Uncovered legs belong in shorts or a swimsuit.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on July 27, 2011, 07:29:49 AM
If it hasn't been mentioned previously, William has given Kate his mother's sapphire and diamond earrings which match her / their engagement ring.  Kate wore them on the recent tour of North America and was widely photographed with them twinkling in the light.

Interestingly, Kate had them slightly altered.  Diana wore them as studs on her lobes, while Kate had them remade into a slight drop style which, frankly, I think the jewels even better.  A little motion lets the twinkling sapphires and diamonds truly shine.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 27, 2011, 02:29:53 PM

Notice that Kate is again wearing her trademark pantyhose.


I am glad that Kate wears "panty hose".  There is nothing more unsightly than uncovered legs with a beautiful dress or skirt.  It is a finishing touch to an elegant ensemble.

Uncovered legs belong in shorts or a swimsuit.

I don't mind uncovered legs but I'm glad she's bringing these back in.  It's much classier.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Clemence on July 28, 2011, 10:20:41 AM

Notice that Kate is again wearing her trademark pantyhose.


I am glad that Kate wears "panty hose".  There is nothing more unsightly than uncovered legs with a beautiful dress or skirt.  It is a finishing touch to an elegant ensemble.

Uncovered legs belong in shorts or a swimsuit.

I don't mind uncovered legs but I'm glad she's bringing these back in.  It's much classier.

not that any appearance of hers is any less elegant!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alice on July 31, 2011, 08:01:11 AM

Notice that Kate is again wearing her trademark pantyhose.


I am glad that Kate wears "panty hose".  There is nothing more unsightly than uncovered legs with a beautiful dress or skirt.  It is a finishing touch to an elegant ensemble.

Uncovered legs belong in shorts or a swimsuit.

I think that's going a bit far. It's 2011 - there's nothing "unsightly" about a woman showing her (lower) legs.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on July 31, 2011, 03:10:54 PM
Tights are an abomination! Hot, uncomfortable and make me itch!

A major reason why I always wear trousers.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 31, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
Bwahahahahaha!!!! I couldn't agree with you more, Ann!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on August 01, 2011, 07:08:45 AM
Royal ladies obviously can't wear trousers all the time!  At Catherine's age and with her figure, she can probably get away with bare legs for many daytime events (as Diana did) but I have to agree that a sheer tight gives a more finished look and is absolutely essential on an older woman.  Just my opinion!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RichC on August 01, 2011, 05:15:31 PM
Well, Catherine's wearing pantyhose and I imagine it's her choice.  Maybe they help her to stay warm?  I recall growing up and seeing lots of commercials for pantyhose on TV for products like L'Eggs pantyhose (weren't they the ones that made you feel good "all under"?), but never noticed when they stopped airing.  Supposedly there's been a spike in sales thanks to Catherine.

btw, I only wear trousers too...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Selencia on August 02, 2011, 02:18:25 AM
Kate wears tights either periodically are all the times. Sometimes they are such good quality tights that I have to look really close to actually see her legs are covered.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Dasha on September 23, 2011, 09:33:01 PM
William's interview about his relationship with his grandmother, the Queen.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2041213/Im-ready-time-Royal-Prince-Williams-exclusive-unprecedented-candid-interview-Robert-Hardman.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TampaBay on October 20, 2011, 01:56:41 PM
Moving the Royal Jewelry discussion regarding the Duchess of Cambridge HERE!

Who has Diana's sapphire and pearl choker, the one made from the brooch given to Diana by QEQM?

Do you think we will see Kate in this piece and do you think it would good?...sapphires with brown hair??

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on October 21, 2011, 10:26:47 AM
I don't think we know yet who has her lovely and gorgeous sapphire and pearl choker. I'm sure the boys are sharing their mum's jewelry collection. William has already given her a pair of re-worked sapphire and diamond earrings. These are very small in size compared to her engagement ring. I guess only time will tell. That sapphire and pearl choker would look amazing no matter what hair color one has!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on October 21, 2011, 05:18:39 PM
TampaBay, I can't picture Catherine in that gorgeous sapphire and pearl choker, sadly.  She doesn't seem the type to be comfortable in jewellery of this type and the fact that it was Diana's may create a talking point she wouldn't like either, although she has Diana's engagement ring of course.  Maybe later on when she's more settled in her royal role or to some truly glittering event we may see it.  I hope we do, though, it would look nearly as stunning on her as it would on you! xx 
Title: TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on October 27, 2011, 12:48:36 PM
TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will be on a working visit to Copenhagen next week wednesday,November 2nd.
They will be welcomed by TRH Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Archduchess Zelia on October 27, 2011, 03:23:21 PM
I couldn't believe it when I read they were coming here, to little Denmark. I'm so thrilled and I'm definitely gonna try to see them on Wednesday. It's also going to be fun seeing them with CP Frederik and CP Mary.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on October 27, 2011, 06:17:58 PM
Hi,

I can see Catherine in that large sapphire and pearl necklace at a State Dinner Function at the Diamond Jubilee next June.
But, only if she thinks that 'the maybe controversity' of wearing it won't upset the spotlight on The Queen, as it is her event, not catherine's....

IMO, it may just be the right time for her to wear it....

Larry
Title: TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on November 02, 2011, 12:48:59 PM
TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will be on a working visit to Copenhagen next week wednesday,November 2nd.
They will be welcomed by TRH Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary.

TRH were on a working visit to UNICEF's Supply Division center in Copenhagen today:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=02-11-2011%20Copenhagen

Courtesy PPE
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on November 04, 2011, 01:31:36 PM
Catherine is still maidenly slim!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on November 04, 2011, 04:20:47 PM
And so is her Danish counterpart.  Do these women ever eat anything?  Is it the pressure of always being scrutinised so closely I wonder?
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on November 05, 2011, 01:34:10 AM
And so is her Danish counterpart.  Do these women ever eat anything?  Is it the pressure of always being scrutinised so closely I wonder?

Oh no,they do have proper meals allright Grace,no worries....and they sport as often as possible,yes.Nothing
out of the ordinary and they don't let themselves go sloppy so that's were discipline sets in too.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on November 07, 2011, 07:32:42 AM
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will move into Princess Margaret's former apartments 1-A at Kensington Palace after a major overhaul of the rooms in the coming year or two.
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on November 13, 2011, 11:36:58 PM

TRH The Duchess of Cambridge and the Countess of Wessex chatting away on the balcony overlooking the Cenotaph,London yesterday:

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=17170770&pos=11

courtesy anp
Title: TRH Prince William and Princess Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on November 14, 2011, 01:44:30 AM
HRH The Duke of Cambridge will be briefly deployed to the Falklands early 2012.

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on December 01, 2011, 07:05:24 AM
The media has an increasing habit of referring to The Duchess of Cambridge as "Duchess Catherine" or "Duchess Kate" in articles. I've never seen that style used widely in reference to a British royal, is that even appropriate?  Or am I the only one irritated by the practice?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Gerta on December 01, 2011, 09:53:34 AM
No, Duchess Catherine or Duchess Kate is not appropriate but that is better than some of the titles the British tabloids are using.  To many, she's still Kate Middleton and (when lumped with her sister), "The Middle-class Middleton's" and the wisteria sisters.  I'm still trying to figure if the British press likes her or not and since her sister signed this enormous book deal on party planning, they want to put the duchess down as much as her sister. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on December 01, 2011, 11:27:56 PM
No, Duchess Catherine or Duchess Kate is not appropriate but that is better than some of the titles the British tabloids are using.  To many, she's still Kate Middleton and (when lumped with her sister), "The Middle-class Middleton's" and the wisteria sisters.  I'm still trying to figure if the British press likes her or not and since her sister signed this enormous book deal on party planning, they want to put the duchess down as much as her sister. 

British tabloids?Filth that doesn't even deserve that name!!!!!!!!!!!And,kept in place by the Brits who apparently revel in the bs...
Telling on the "Nation".... ::)
Title: Prince William and Princess Catherine,Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on January 10, 2012, 04:42:40 AM
HRH The Duchess of Cambridge celebrated her 30th birthday yesterday,january 9th. ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Margot on January 10, 2012, 03:02:52 PM
The media has an increasing habit of referring to The Duchess of Cambridge as "Duchess Catherine" or "Duchess Kate" in articles. I've never seen that style used widely in reference to a British royal, is that even appropriate?  Or am I the only one irritated by the practice?

It is not an increasing habit, the press has been doing similar things ever since the arrival of Diana. Diana was always being referred to as Princess Diana (Totally incorrectly) as well as the Princess of Wales....so the Duchess of Cambridge is being dubbed and referred to in a similar incorrect fashion. It seems to me to be a disneyesque approach used because some quarters in the press think their readership will not be able to identify who the Duchess of Cambridge is unless they remind readers of her Christian name. Basically it is a dumbing down and sheer disregard for correct style and form of address. The media never stopped referring to Diana, Princess of Wales as Princess Diana, either before of after the divorce and it made up its own rules. The public at large had no problem with that and it appears that the media is once again determining that it will call the Duchess of Cambridge: Duchess Catherine or Duchess Kate and the readership will accept this. It is pretty harmless really!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on January 10, 2012, 04:47:55 PM
In most of what I read, she is still referred to as "Kate Middleton" which I find far more annoying than Duchess Catherine or Duchess Kate.  Diana was never called "Diana Spencer" after her marriage...maybe Lady Di occasionally but that was all. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Margot on January 10, 2012, 06:36:29 PM
The same thing happened with the Duchess of Cornwall for a considerable period after her marriage to the POW. I noticed that the pernicious and dreadful "Chattering Classes" Daily Mail was one of the worst culprits during the period 2005 to 2006 constantly referring to her as Camilla Parker Bowles for months after the honeymoon . Interestingly no English newspapers that I have seen, ever refer to the Duchess of Cornwall as Duchess Camilla. With regards to the Duchess of Cambridge being referred to by her maiden name even now, I too find this irritating. I used to feel the same about the 'Lady Di' sobriquet still being used, especially in the Foreign Press, to identify Diana, Princess of Wales throughout the eighties and all the way up till the time of her death! I found that really annoying! Even though she should never have been known as "Princess Diana" during her marriage, I still preferred it with teeth on edge, to 'Lady Di' which was inappropriate and declasse IMHO!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on January 13, 2012, 11:30:37 AM
What grates on my teeth is the fact that certain tabloids.....yes you, Daily Mail for one, insist on calling Pippa "royal" and they also seem to be obsessed with her (Pippa's), backside too....
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on January 13, 2012, 02:45:49 PM
I thought that Pippa was exquisite in her maid of honor dress (but I did wonder about lingerie lines - like where were they?) I think she actually upstaged the bride, but then Catherine had to be discrete and "bride like".

I never see the tabloids that you in the UK see all the time, but I am sure that they are much like the ones we have here.  Anything to sell papers.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Martyn on January 14, 2012, 12:25:17 PM
I thought that Pippa was exquisite in her maid of honor dress (but I did wonder about lingerie lines - like where were they?) I think she actually upstaged the bride, but then Catherine had to be discrete and "bride like".

I never see the tabloids that you in the UK see all the time, but I am sure that they are much like the ones we have here.  Anything to sell papers.

Hahaha! I am sure many were wondering exactly what she had on under that dress that day!  Seriously though, I doubt that she went 'commando' - imagine the rumpus if it emerged that she had in fact no undergarments on - and there are so many wonderful items of lingerie that one can obtain to wear under just that type of dress, which by its very nature shows every line and bump.  I am sure that all was entirely in order underneath.......

As for the tabloids - well, what can one say.  Their insistence on dumbing down for their readership really says more about the management of these organisations than anything else.  Lucien does have a point though - it is the people who buy this rubbish that keeps them in business.


To some extent, the appellations 'Duchess Kate' and 'Duchess Catherine' may perhaps be viewed as familiar and affectionate; the latent antipathy in the media towards the Duchess of Cornwall may explain why she has never been labelled 'Duchess Camilla'.......
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on January 15, 2012, 10:24:31 AM
Wondering about what was worn under Pippa's dress brings to mind the old joke...

"What is worn under a Scotsman's kilt?

Why nothing at all is worn under there, everything is in perfect working order."

Perhaps the same could be said for Pippa?

I hope that this doesn't offend anyone.  ;-)   
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Princess of Cupertino on January 18, 2012, 01:34:34 PM
I don't understand this obsession over Pippa Middleton. IMHO she's neither beautiful nor glamorous. And she's not royal. Why the fuss?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on January 18, 2012, 04:32:53 PM
I don't either!  I think it's entirely media-generated.  Catherine is not playing their game, i.e. giving them lots of candid photo opportunities whilst out and about like Diana did - she is either outsmarting them or is being better protected - that's why they're still focussing on Pippa all these months after the wedding and she's not really doing anything of interest besides just being a normal young woman.  Pathetic!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Gerta on January 18, 2012, 07:34:30 PM
I don't either!  I think it's entirely media-generated.  Catherine is not playing their game, i.e. giving them lots of candid photo opportunities whilst out and about like Diana did - she is either outsmarting them or is being better protected - that's why they're still focussing on Pippa all these months after the wedding and she's not really doing anything of interest besides just being a normal young woman.  Pathetic!
Catherine isn't outsmarting the media, she hasn't reached that level yet, but William is very protective of her.  I understand that his office has already come down on some of the tabloids for being rather catty about her smiling ??? and the press being unjust about the girl guides. ::)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on January 18, 2012, 08:00:53 PM
The media is definitely behind the Pipa fascination/hype whatever you want to call it. The whole bridesmaid dress thing I never understood. She seems like a nice girl who I care to know NOTHING about especially what she's wearing or who she's meeting. It's like jumping online wanting to read a little royal news, which the media treats as celebrity news, and you have to hack your way through Kardashian headlines in order to find something that is somewhat worth looking at. I know I went from Pipa to Kardashian headlines...it's the same to me....the media trying to influence readership...nothing new, but as I age, the less tolerant I have become of such non-information. Just this RoyalWatcher's perspective.
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on January 19, 2012, 11:13:02 PM
Prince William is off to the Falkland Islands for a few months,with his chopper... ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on January 25, 2012, 01:14:38 PM
From “Princess” Diana to “Duchess Kate”: The Incorrect Way of Referring to a Royal Consort


I thought this was interesting.


http://royal-splendor.blogspot.com/2012/01/from-princess-diana-to-duchess-kate.html
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on January 25, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
When you get national newspapers (albeit tabloid newspapers) like The Daily Mail still referring to Queen Elizabeth II as "Her Royal Highness", what hope is there for the general populace to get the titles of lesser royal personages correct? 
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: IvanVII on January 25, 2012, 09:31:54 PM
I can understand foreign press getting it wrong, what bothers me is when the British press can't even print their own national titles correctly.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on January 26, 2012, 02:35:41 AM
My sentiments exactly. :(  Welcome to the forum, IvanVII!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Selencia on February 06, 2012, 08:48:38 PM
I know Queen Elizabeth is a majesty, I believe she is the only majesty in England. But some of the titles I am never going to get. For example apparently it was incorrect for people to call Diana, Princess Diana because she wasn't born a Princess and it wasn't her title. I also get confused with people going back and forth calling Sarah Ferguson( while she was married) a Princess and a Duchess.
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on February 06, 2012, 11:48:50 PM
I can understand foreign press getting it wrong, what bothers me is when the British press can't even print their own national titles correctly.

"Foreign Press" here never gets it wrong and there is no excuse in case they do whereever they're from,they're there to spread knowledge,
not more ignorance then there already is.Regardless,they either should know what they talk about,or buzz off.... ::) ;)

News from "William the Conqueror" as he is on duty in the Falklands:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2012/02/william-the-conqueror-busy-in-falklands.html

courtesy hja


Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on February 07, 2012, 09:32:18 AM
Lady Diana Spencer became the Princess Charles or Diana, Princess of Wales.

Sarah Ferguson became the Princess Andrew or Sarah, Duchess of York.

Check out this link:    http://royal-splendor.blogspot.com/2012/01/from-princess-diana-to-duchess-kate.html
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Selencia on February 11, 2012, 01:23:10 AM
What they really were isn't exactly the topic at hand, Diana was known as Princess Diana. Even in books i never hear either of them referred to as Princess Charles or Andrew; and no one is trying to call Kate Princess William. I just assume that the public at large has decided they don't like the idea of calling someone Princess Charles. Heck, I still see people calling Camila, Camilla Parkeb Bowles, the Duchess of Cornwall. The only wife I know who goes by her husbands name is Princess Michael of Kent.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Selencia on February 18, 2012, 09:06:11 PM
Catherine's been traveling around doing some charity work while William is away. I know she went to an art exhibit and a few days ago was in Liverpool.
Seeing as how the media have no problem calling these women by their wrong titles, Princess Diana and Camilla Parker Bowles The Duchess of Cornwall, why have the media not chosen to call Kate, Princess Catherine? I know it would be incorrect, but as I stated no one has cared before.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: IvanVII on February 27, 2012, 01:21:30 AM
I don't think calling Camilia the Duchess of Cornwall is technically incorrect as Charles is also the Duke of Cornwall (as one of his lesser titles) and that is what the palace said she should be referred to so as not to take away from Diana
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on February 27, 2012, 04:18:27 AM
A decision was taken when Charles and Camilla married that she should be HRH the Duchess of Cornwall rather than HRH the Princess of Wales, in the hope of placating the Diana lobby. Neither Camilla nor Katherine is a princess in her own right, so Princess Camilla or Princess Katherine is wrong.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on February 27, 2012, 05:14:53 AM
Please don't use the term "the Diana lobby". 

The decision for Camilla to use the title Duchess of Cornwall rather than Princess of Wales was taken as much because the couple was well aware that their behaviour prior to their marriage did not find favour with the public as appropriate for the next King of England and his wife as much as it was to do with sentiment over Diana, the late Princess of Wales.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on February 27, 2012, 07:01:41 AM
Grace

'The Diana lobby' makes a convenient shorthand. In my opinion, the opposition to Charles and Camilla's marriage has come mainly from Diana's admirers.

Incidentally, Charles will not be King of Emngland, but King of Great Britain.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on February 27, 2012, 07:31:43 AM
Not to nitpick, but no, the title King of Great Britain existed only existed between 1707 and 1801, when that state was replaced by the United Kingdom.  Charles will correctly be King the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Selencia on February 27, 2012, 12:40:25 PM
A little off topic, but what the heck British?! Why do you keep changing the name of your country?! Stop it!  ;)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: LauraO on March 12, 2012, 12:36:15 PM
Starting to get seriously annoyed by the media over here, went into a newspaper store today and literally so many magazines had kate on the cover with some sort of baby motivated headline, why do they feel the need to push a baby on this couple who have only just got married! Leave them alone for goodness sake! There seems to be so much media "concern" over Kate's weight, maybe if she didnt feel so much press influence hanging over her on massive issue's such as having children then that wouldnt be a problem!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on March 12, 2012, 06:08:17 PM
I think it might be her age. Didn't she just turn 30? That biological clock must be ticking away in some people's minds.

Here, I saw an rag with the title that "Will was away so Kate would play".  How horrible, but how typical.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on March 12, 2012, 07:39:59 PM
Alixz, yes, she turned 30 in January. And that headline is just horrible, just shocking. But its the media, they take stories and twist them, or speculate stories, because they know it would sell. 

TunaEars, I know exactly what you mean! You are 100% right about the baby stuff all over the media! The media are far too pushy sometimes. Far too pushy.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on March 12, 2012, 07:52:56 PM
Frankly, is this none of the medias' business, nor ours ? It is theirs. Same with with this jewels talk. How superfluous if  one thinks that is important to being a royal figure. She will wear what she feels comfortable in, not what some people want  just for a display. She is of a  young generation and  a lot of this just not mean anything to her. When appropriate, she undoubtedly give the pictures you want. Let her do her duty and leave her alone.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: IvanVII on March 12, 2012, 11:53:15 PM
I'll disagree a little. William and Kate having a baby would be a matter of state and therefore of public interest since it is within the direct line of inheritance.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: LauraO on March 13, 2012, 03:07:20 AM
I do understand what you mean about it being a matter of state but shes still adjusting to her new world and headlines like the one above (absolutley terrible and thus why i try my best to ignore tabloid headlines because they are mostly a load of rubbish) cannot be helping. i just find it hypocrital all these magazines saying "kates too thin" and its just like, well, yeah, wouldnt you be if you were being pressured like that?
But on the flip side i do understand what you mean about the line of inheritance...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on March 13, 2012, 04:26:57 AM
I would agree with all that has been said in general terms. However, historically speaking, when an heir apparent or close heir presumptive marries, a child can be expected within a year or so. Prince William himself arrived just under a year after his parents' wedding, as did the Prince of Wales. The most recent examples are the first-born children of Frederik of Denmark and Felipe of Spain, both born 17 months after their parents' weddings.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Robert_Hall on March 13, 2012, 10:24:12 AM
The succession is already well provided for. Putting pressure of the Duchess will not help to have a baby. It often  does just the reverse. It is their business, after all.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on March 14, 2012, 04:40:46 AM
We have Prince Harry - no problem in my view - then the Duke of York. However, I don't think anyone would be happy to have Beatrice and Eugenie any closer to the throne.

But Robert, you are right. William is not the immediate heir, unlike Felipe and Frederik, so no particular need to rush things.

Ann
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on March 19, 2012, 09:44:06 AM

HRH The Duchess of Cambridge today,opening of the Treehouse,a hospice for children in Ipswich.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17431040

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: OctoberLily on March 20, 2012, 02:13:16 AM

HRH The Duchess of Cambridge today,opening of the Treehouse,a hospice for children in Ipswich.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17431040



Thanks for the link, Lucien.  A very nice debut for the Duchess, I'd say  :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on March 20, 2012, 12:18:06 PM
I watch her live speech yesterday, Think she did very well.

Thanks for the link :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on March 21, 2012, 06:52:33 PM
I truly like Catherine. I think she is much more likable than Diana.  Even at her best, Diana, to me, was a spoiled brat who never grew up and expected the world to love and suffer with her.

She did grow into the good works she did later in her life, but she still acted like a "Hollywood starlet" in her social scandals and faux pas.

Catherine has the grace and morals of a great future queen. Will is indeed a lucky man.
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on March 22, 2012, 09:10:13 AM
Good!

The Duke and Duchess were re-united as William returned from his mission abroad!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17458841

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on March 22, 2012, 06:48:51 PM
I truly like Catherine. I think she is much more likable than Diana.  Even at her best, Diana, to me, was a spoiled brat who never grew up and expected the world to love and suffer with her.

She did grow into the good works she did later in her life, but she still acted like a "Hollywood starlet" in her social scandals and faux pas.

Catherine has the grace and morals of a great future queen. Will is indeed a lucky man.

Not sure how you can come to this lofty conclusion less than 12 months after Catherine joined the royal family.  Her public profile has been far less than the late Diana's was a year after she became royal and it's pretty obvious Catherine has the love and support from her husband to a degree Diana never enjoyed, not to mention that she appears to be being eased into royal duties far more carefully than Diana ever was.  I do find her quite likeable, but she's got a long way to go before proving her worth as a royal, in my view.  She has not really been tested so far.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on March 22, 2012, 11:20:24 PM
Catherine Duchess of Cambridge is a complete and absolute natural.Not a lofty conclusion at all,just look at her,
well educated,bright and absolutely lovely without making a spectacle of herself nor using false eyelashes to
convince the crowds what a fake saint she is.No,Catherine is a gift,a jewel in the Crown,one made of the right
stuff to become a Queen Consort eventually.For anything else I totally agree with Alixz,yes I know,but who's right
is right,you can never beat the thruth.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on March 22, 2012, 11:56:31 PM
Time will tell...let's hope you are right.  Many of Diana's most vocal critics were probably praising her to the skies in the first few months of her marriage also... :-X
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on March 23, 2012, 02:20:44 AM
Time will tell...let's hope you are right.  Many of Diana's most vocal critics were probably praising her to the skies in the first few months of her marriage also... :-X

No,afraid not....

But William and Catherine is a different story alltogether!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: feodorovna on March 23, 2012, 02:44:23 AM
I wonder how these two women can possibly be compared. One was a gauche teenager, flung into engagement, publicity, public duties, pregnancy and motherhood all in just over 12 months. She was given little by way of support from her husband and his family and I imagine, that in the early days everything she did was about gaining her husband's approval. She had lived, before marriage, in a very small world, partly because she wasn't intellectual enough to spread her wings further but also because that was how it was for girls like her.

The other woman has been eased very slowly and gently into the position she now holds. She met her man on neutral territory as an equal. I imagine they became friends before they became lovers but certainly, by the time they married, she was able to walk tall and proudly confident in his love for and protection of her. Thank God they are being given this precious time to enjoy each other and their marriage before they become parents.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on March 23, 2012, 07:47:21 AM
Each of these recent posts about Catherine and Diana make excellent valid points, and Feodorovna's summary is spot on - these are two utterly different women in two utterly different situations. 

Certainly, serious damaging mistakes were made 31 years ago when Charles and Diana wed.  It's wonderful that the hard lessons were obviously learned, and are being corrected this time around.  Catherine, William and the entire monarchy will be so much the better off.

But again, those two women are also utterly different people - and so are their husbands.  Society is also vastly different today than in 1981. 
We are not able to assume "what might have been" if Diana had been given the same benefits that Catherine is now.  All the careful hand-holding in the world would probably have made the path easier, but wouldn't have changed the fact that Diana and Charles were not a well matched couple.  It wouldn't have erased the age or upbringing differences that made neither of them able to give the other what was needed emotionally.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on March 23, 2012, 08:30:39 AM
I just like Catherine's style and relaxed presentation of herself. She looks directly into the eyes of the person (child or adult) to whom she is talking and gives everyone her complete attention.

Another woman I always admired and felt I would like to meet is Barbara Bush, the wife of GHW Bush. She also made me feel that she was relaxed and comfortable in her own skin.

Michelle Obama has some of that charisma, but not as much as either the Duchess of Cambridge or Mrs. Bush.

While it is true that Diana was in over her heard and certainly not supported as Catherine is, I have never forgotten the sad, mascara smudged, "Panda" eyed Princess of Wales in her interview discussing "three in her marriage". I thought it was Hollywood at its best and undignified for a woman in her position.

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on March 23, 2012, 04:20:46 PM
Well said Feodorovna, they are two different women.

I agree with Alixz about Catherine, I always see, when she is talking to somebody, she always makes eye contact, listens and actually shows an interest in what that person is saying. I always think she carries herself well and acts natural.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: OctoberLily on March 23, 2012, 04:54:06 PM
 ;D
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But again, those two women are also utterly different people - and so are their husbands.  Society is also vastly different today than in 1981. 
We are not able to assume "what might have been" if Diana had been given the same benefits that Catherine is now.  All the careful hand-holding in the world would probably have made the path easier, but wouldn't have changed the fact that Diana and Charles were not a well matched couple.  It wouldn't have erased the age or upbringing differences that made neither of them able to give the other what was needed emotionally.

I agree with Chris and feodorovna.  These two women are totally different people.  Diana was so young and was thrust into a world she was woefully unprepared in which to live.  Catherine is older and has had a much more "normal" relationship with William.  Lest we forget, these two have been together for several years and by that fact alone Catherine has had the greater benefit.

I am very impressed with Catherine.  And, like Alixz, I like how she's relaxed and presents herself so well.  She seems to have stepped into her royal role so naturally.  Good for her, good for William and good for the British monarchy.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on March 23, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
Catherine's recent speech is the latest example of the involvement of royal women in patient care

http://www.royalhistorian.com/catherine-duchess-of-cambridge-makes-her-first-public-speech-at-the-east-anglia-childrens-hospice-in-ipswitch/
Title: TRH Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on March 26, 2012, 01:54:59 AM

The Duke and Duchess are off on a ski break.Good!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on March 26, 2012, 02:31:07 AM
Why?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vanya Ivanova on March 26, 2012, 07:50:52 AM

I was living in London when Diana died and remember been genuinely shocked at the mass hysteria it unleashed, people were sobbing in the streets for someone they had never met! it was utterly bizarre. I didn't have anything against Diana, nor was I a fan. I felt sorry for her children though. I personally also feel sorry for Kate, I think she has potentially walked into a gilded cage. The one thing the British monarchy does not want to see is 'another' Diana. Therefore I'm quite sure Kate's every move is being monitored by hawkish courtiers.

The reaction after Diana died proved how much power she had. I well remember the angry mob that gathered outside Buckingham Palace demanding the Queen etc show themselves and the anger at the Palace flag not being flown half mast (traditionally only ever done when a reigning monarch dies). The Royal Family's popularity had never been so low. Kate will now always be under the most intense scrutiny not just for her position but because of her predecessor. If anything goes wrong with her marriage I am certain the 'palace' will have made quite sure she is never in a position to challenge them as Diana did.

But they are young and in love and Kate's situation is very different to Diana's. The main difference being its a love match not an arranged marriage. The wedding was lovely and even some of my anti royal colleagues gush over Kate.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on March 26, 2012, 11:48:09 AM
Well,there's a bit of a mix up here.... ::)

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=26-03-2012%20Guandong

COURTESY PPE....
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on March 26, 2012, 06:20:34 PM
Ooops...a big mix up there indeed!  ::)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on April 17, 2012, 12:14:12 PM
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's upcoming 1st anniversary and the history of royal baby speculation

http://www.royalhistorian.com/looking-back-at-the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridges-first-year-of-marriage/
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on April 27, 2012, 12:14:17 AM
TRH The Duke and Duchess yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqE-JBG_YhE



Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on April 29, 2012, 11:36:05 AM
Happy 1st Anniversary to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

http://www.royalhistorian.com/happy-1st-anniversary-to-the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge/
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on April 30, 2012, 11:51:50 PM
Happy 1st Anniversary to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

http://www.royalhistorian.com/happy-1st-anniversary-to-the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge/

I 2nd that emotion!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on May 03, 2012, 11:26:21 AM
Pippa Middleton was listed one of TIME magazine's most influential people of the year last month! That shows the continuing fascination with royal relatives, regardless of their actual activities.

http://www.royalhistorian.com/pippa-middleton-and-the-enduring-fascination-with-relatives-of-royalty/
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on May 03, 2012, 04:22:42 PM
Who or what has Pippa Middleton "influenced", either positively or negatively?  This is absolutely absurd!

I think I've mentioned this before, but I believe there is little if any genuine public "fascination" with Pippa Middleton.  I think it's entirely media-generated by the press which hasn't really got what it hoped for from her sister, the Duchess of Cambridge.  I've never heard of anyone who actually follows what Pippa Middleton is doing or takes a real interest in her, have you?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on May 03, 2012, 06:44:54 PM
Hi,

I agree Grace;  who really gives a hoot about Pippa Middleton - only the mindless, who follow every media celebrity, most of whom are vacuous non-entities!!!

Certainly, I can see "People Magazine" going for this tripe, but "Time" is supposedly a solid news and information and educational publication....

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on May 04, 2012, 03:09:36 AM
Pippa Middleton was listed one of TIME magazine's most influential people of the year last month! That shows the continuing fascination with royal relatives, regardless of their actual activities.

NO!!It only shows the continuing ignorance and plastic bull enforced by rags like TIME and the no-use blittering idiots that run it and take themselves so seriously!!Mental cases!!..It used to be a quality mag...a 100 years ago..But now people are seen,and probably are to some extent,as superficial dumbasses and are kept as dumb by useless pointless rags like the TIME's of this world.Ok,she has a nice butt to be straighforward,but so have I and I'm not even near being influential on a global scale....heck... ::)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on May 04, 2012, 09:34:11 AM
While I certainly disagree with TIME Magazine declaring her one of the most signficant people of the year, there does seem to be some degree of public interest in her. There are twitter feeds devoted to her doings and google searches of her name. A couple of the media interviews I did about the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's 1st anniversary included questions about Pippa. As I mention in my blog post, I think there is always a public fascination with families who intermarry with the royal family.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on May 12, 2012, 05:46:00 PM
BBC report on the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's attendance at the Olympic Gala:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18043130

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: OctoberLily on May 13, 2012, 12:28:32 AM
My goodness!  She looks more beautiful each time I see her!  Love, love love that dress!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on May 13, 2012, 02:53:26 PM
Thought she looked beautiful last night. The colour really suited her, and she looks great with her hair up!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on June 07, 2012, 12:00:46 PM
Prince William turns 30 in a couple weeks and has been promoted to Captain in the Royal Air Force. Here's how his interview with Katie Couric compares with Prince Charles's 1975 interview with Women's Own Magazine

http://www.royalhistorian.com/comparing-prince-william-and-prince-charles-at-30/
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on June 08, 2012, 03:43:45 AM
The RAF doesn't have Captains. Prince william is a Flight Lieutenant.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on June 08, 2012, 05:20:32 PM
The RAF doesn't have Captains. Prince william is a Flight Lieutenant.

Ann

Precisely; unless their eluding to Group Captain.

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on June 09, 2012, 10:05:48 AM
Apparently, what the newspaper means is that Prince William has become an aircraft captain, in other words the senior pilot in a two-pilot aircraft, rather than a co-pilot as previously.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: THERRY on June 11, 2012, 03:29:28 AM
At the wedding of a female cousin
information and pictures here http://www.purepeople.com/article/kate-middleton-une-perle-au-bras-de-william-au-mariage-d-une-niece-de-lady-di_a101902/1#scrolldown
Title: Prince William and Princess Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 21, 2012, 06:41:42 AM
HRH The Duke of Cambridge celebrates his 30th birthday today.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on July 01, 2012, 09:05:40 PM
Prince William is appointed by HM The Queen to the Order of the Thistle.

BBC News: Diamond Jubilee: Queen in Scotland for Royal Week:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-18663842

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: THERRY on July 19, 2012, 11:33:53 AM
The Duchess of Cambridge during his early arrival at the National Portrait Gallery, July 19, 2012, for the exhibition Road to 2012: Aiming High. The Duchess of Cambridge, always attentive to detail, wore a dress of a British designer (Stella McCartney) and a collar nod to gold and the Olympic rings.

http://www.purepeople.com/article/kate-middleton-beaute-electrique-et-olympique-en-stella-mccartney_a104053/1
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on July 22, 2012, 06:12:23 PM
Here's my review of Penny Junor's contrversial book Prince William: The Man Who Will Be King

http://www.royalhistorian.com/the-diamond-jubilee-book-reviews-6-prince-william-the-man-who-will-be-king-by-penny-junor/
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Martyn on August 02, 2012, 03:54:25 PM
A very interesting review.

Personally I can't bear Junor.  Every time that I've seen her interviewed on the subject of Charles and Diana there has been such an unpleasant tone to her pronouncements on their marriage that I have often wondered quite what her real agenda is. 

Objective is never a word that comes to mind when I think of Junor and her opinions.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on August 02, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
Glad you enjoyed my review!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Martyn on August 09, 2012, 08:00:44 AM
Certainly did.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: IvanVII on August 19, 2012, 07:49:23 PM
I believe this is His Royal Highness' first rescue while being the "captain" of the helicopter.

http://www.royalblog.ca/2012/08/prince-william-leads-rescue-of-teenage-girls.html

I think it's a very special  job for a future king to be rescuing his future subjects.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on September 05, 2012, 12:32:22 PM
The itinerary for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's Diamond Jubilee tour of the South Pacific has been released. The Duchess's solo engagement at a reception for women's groups in the Solomon Islands has the potential to improve the status of women in this commonwealth nation.

http://www.royalhistorian.com/the-importance-of-the-duchess-of-cambridges-upcoming-meeting-with-womens-groups-in-the-solomon-islands/
Title: TRH Prince William and Princess Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on September 10, 2012, 08:42:58 AM

In the frame of the Diamond Jubilee TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will visit Singapore,Malaysia,Soloman Islands and Tuvalu
from september 11th till september 19th.

http://www.thediamondjubilee.org/diamond-jubilee-visit-singapore-malaysia-solomon-islands-and-tuvalu


Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: THERRY on September 11, 2012, 07:01:24 AM
http://diamondjubilee.hellomagazine.com/queens-jubilee/tours/201209111117/william-kate-orchid-naming-ceremony/
'Global superstars' William and Kate touch down in Singapore
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on September 11, 2012, 11:03:58 AM
A new orchid was named in honour of William and Catherine's wedding at Singapore Botanical Gardens

http://www.royalhistorian.com/royals-in-the-garden-the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-visit-singapore-botantical-gardens/
Title: TRH Prince William and Princess Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on September 13, 2012, 01:36:40 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19566771

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on September 13, 2012, 11:41:08 AM

TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visiting Malaysia:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19567370

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19588986

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on September 14, 2012, 09:54:28 AM
BBC News: Kate and William angered by 'grotesque' invasion of privacy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19595221

I hope they sue the ass off that photgrapher!

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on September 14, 2012, 10:09:03 AM
While I do feel bad for Kate, I'm surprised she allowed herself to be so vulerable.   I realize she was in a "private" garden at the time, but everyone knows that any place outdoors is not beyond the range of a camera lens these days.   It's a terrible invasion of her privacy, but the lessons should have been well learned by the royal family at this point.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on September 14, 2012, 01:11:04 PM
I hope the legal team for the Royal Family hammer that periodical and the scum who took the pictures so hard that neither it nor any other media will ever invade their privacy again. My hope that it will be a ground breaking ruling that will protect William and Kate and every other person who's privacy is violated.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on September 14, 2012, 01:15:38 PM
I am appalled by the actions of the magazine.

According to someone interviewed on the BBC news this morning, the French have stringent laws relating to privacy, so I hope the French courts will hammer them.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on September 14, 2012, 06:12:17 PM
While I do feel bad for Kate, I'm surprised she allowed herself to be so vulerable.   I realize she was in a "private" garden at the time, but everyone knows that any place outdoors is not beyond the range of a camera lens these days.   It's a terrible invasion of her privacy, but the lessons should have been well learned by the royal family at this point.

I completely agree with you, MTB.  Again everyone tut tuts and bleats about the media but it was a terrible lapse by CATHERINE, in my view.  She should have known better and my sympathies are with the Queen, not her, I have to say. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on September 14, 2012, 06:45:43 PM
BBC News: Topless Kate pictures: Duke and duchess sue French magazine Closer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19604535

I hope they succeed in closing the magazine down! It demonstrates William's determination not to put up with what his mother had to go through at the hands of the Press.

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on September 14, 2012, 06:58:40 PM
Hi Grace,

I'm with you on this - I support and sympathize with The Queen.......

I cannot understand why people run around naked or semi-naked outside their bedrooms or bathrooms - and please keep your curtains drawn.
Harry and Catherine should know better - they're adults, not 4 years olds....
And, I don't even want to see a 4 year old naked, thank you very much....

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: aor on September 15, 2012, 06:37:29 AM
If one does not want to have topless pictures circulated, one keeps ones clothes on in public............ They should have known better!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Stardust on September 15, 2012, 07:55:32 AM
She knows that she is "The most photographed woman in the world"  why would she go out partially naked.  Prince William knew how much his mother suffered in the press, he should have known better and told her to put some clothes on.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on September 15, 2012, 09:32:44 AM
I do agree that the French publication that printed the pictures should be dealt with harshly, but everyone, especially the Royal Family, knows that the paparazzi are snakes.   They shouldn't be surprised or miffed that the snake bites when teased.   Frankly, it makes the Royal Family look a little silly and as others before me have alluded to ,  the Queen does not deserve that.   She's always managed to keep herself above that. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: THERRY on September 16, 2012, 08:30:03 AM
William and Kate in Borneo and Solomon Islands

http://www.purepeople.com/article/kate-middleton-suspendue-a-un-arbre-elle-retrouve-le-sourire-avec-son-prince_a106988/1
http://www.gettyimages.ca/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=151782327&EditorialProduct=Royalty
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: ashdean on September 16, 2012, 01:08:52 PM
She knows that she is "The most photographed woman in the world"  why would she go out partially naked.  Prince William knew how much his mother suffered in the press, he should have known better and told her to put some clothes on.
I could not agree more.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: rosieposie on September 17, 2012, 07:37:52 AM
Lets not forget people that William and Kate are human beings too.  They are very much in love and to say that she should have kept her clothes while on holiday...they could do what ever they wanted to.

They were obviously unaware that the Paps were parked outside.  I think it was kind of romantic that he rubbed lotion or suncream onto her back. 

If she wanted to be topless with the man she loves and he doesn't give a damn at admiring her naked then Good luck to them.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on September 17, 2012, 07:57:36 AM
I agree - I'm actually a bit surprised that some of our fellow posters here are taking the position that the royal couple themselves are somehow to blame.  I mean, certainly when you are royals and you take your top off on a balcony, you do have to assume there's a chance a photographer might be lurking somewhere in the bushes. 

But - that doesn't let the photographer off the hook here.  The couple were deep in a massive private park - they were not "in public".  The photographer was clearly not supposed to be there.  Isn't that against the law / trespassing?  Given the circumstances, I view this no differently than if a photographer had snapped them with a long-range lens through a window into their bedroom.  It is a clear invasion of privacy, and I hope that photographer gets the (legal) book thrown at her.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on September 17, 2012, 08:34:02 AM
Chris

I agree

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on September 17, 2012, 05:58:22 PM
Chris

I agree

Ann

As do I.

Pictures from their East Asia and Pacific tour:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19611365

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on September 17, 2012, 06:04:54 PM
Great article from The Telegraph: "Duchess of Cambridge photos: Ireland to introduce privacy law"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9549016/Duchess-of-Cambridge-photos-Ireland-to-introduce-privacy-law.html

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on September 17, 2012, 06:55:18 PM
Rosie, Chris and Ann, you're all too good to be true!

William has had first hand experience of the media, including the way it treated his late mother, for his entire 30 years.  Surely that knowledge and experience should have warned him to protect his wife so that she could not be exploited by the media in the way that she has been?  The Cambridges cannot have it both ways.  If they want to protect their personal image and the prestige of the royal family then they are very careful, it's as simple as that.  It's the big drawback of who they are.  I fully accept that if they were any other young married couple, what they did was not wrong.  But they aren't and their decision has now ensured that the future Queen Consort can be publicly viewed topless for eternity. 

In the meantime, it's a bit more tarnish on the monarchy for the Queen to polish off.  HM has worked hard for over sixty years now with nothing like this ever touching her and she must wonder what on earth is going to happen after she is gone if her family continue to lapse so spectacularly and so often in ways that are so completely avoidable. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on September 17, 2012, 07:34:49 PM
I really like the "new" understated eye makeup Kate has been wearing lately. Gone is the heavy kohl under eye liner she adopted shortly after their engagement. It's been replaced with a lighter eyeliner more flattering to her lovely green eyes. I know, it's a superficial comment, but I was really pleased she has adopted a softer look. Maybe it's just for this tour...maybe not. She is just gorgeous even in the tropics!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5-ylH25Y22U/UFcjqA1A5JI/AAAAAAAAFFU/nerhROGP4Bk/s1600/Kate%252BMiddleton%252BDuke%252BDuchess%252BCambridge%252BDiamond%252BAa1AT4u0qKwx.jpg
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: jehan on September 17, 2012, 07:52:03 PM
Rosie, Chris and Ann, you're all too good to be true!

William has had first hand experience of the media, including the way it treated his late mother, for his entire 30 years.  Surely that knowledge and experience should have warned him to protect his wife so that she could not be exploited by the media in the way that she has been?  The Cambridges cannot have it both ways.  If they want to protect their personal image and the prestige of the royal family then they are very careful, it's as simple as that.  It's the big drawback of who they are.  I fully accept that if they were any other young married couple, what they did was not wrong.  But they aren't and their decision has now ensured that the future Queen Consort can be publicly viewed topless for eternity. 

In the meantime, it's a bit more tarnish on the monarchy for the Queen to polish off.  HM has worked hard for over sixty years now with nothing like this ever touching her and she must wonder what on earth is going to happen after she is gone if her family continue to lapse so spectacularly and so often in ways that are so completely avoidable. 

I don't see any tarnish on the monarchy at all from this.  The only tarnish is on the photographer and the press who published the pictures.  They were in private, doing nothing wrong, immoral or criminal.  The fact that she was topless in a private situation was no reflection on her.  Had the pics been taken through a window while she was changing would it be any different?

The Queen was lucky to have grown up at a time when the press was not so intrusive.  Had the press been the same in her youth there would have been a lot more scandals (with the family, if not the queen herself) with the Duke of Kent, the Duke of Windsor, Princess Margaret in her youth and others.  All were involved in things with which the  press today would have a field day.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on September 17, 2012, 08:36:27 PM
"The Queen was lucky enough to have grown up at a time when the press was not so intrusive".  Exactly!  But times have changed, and as I mentioned before, there is no place on earth outdoors that is out of range of a camera lens nowadays.   If someone leaves their doors unlocked and comes home one day to find they've been robbed blind, the thieves are no less guilty because the doors were unlocked but the victim is still looked upon as being foolish for tempting fate.   I don't see a whole lot of difference in what has happened to Catherine.   To me, this just shows a simple lack of common sense on Catherine and Williams part.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on September 18, 2012, 08:13:53 AM
Grace / Maria, I'll concede that the Duchess' decision to sunbathe topless was not that smart, given the risks.  I guess what I'm focused on is whether she SHOULD be able to do so without being photographed - and that is a resounding "yes".  A private holiday, deep in a secluded area, is the only place they would ever be free to have a bit of fun.  This is a young newly married couple who live under the microscope every day of their lives and do a damn good job of it.  Should they have to go their entire lives without ever enjoying any normal healthy adult fun - except behind locked doors and with the draperies drawn? 

I think we (as a society) have tolerated a steady decline in privacy rights over the past decades and, while I'm not blind to the march forward in technology, I think we're getting a bit lax in drawing the lines.  We've gotten a bit Orwellian for my tastes.

I had to shudder a bit when an earlier poster mentioned Princess Margaret.  Oh - can you imagine if there had been camera phones on Mustique in the 1960s and 1970s?  I think it quite possible that the monarchy itself would no longer exist.  One single photo spread of Maggie hosting a Saturday night beach party at her holiday retreat would have probably shocked society at that time to its core!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on September 18, 2012, 08:55:27 AM
Chris, I couldn't agree with you more on every point you made.   I, too, wish that the Royal Family could enjoy privacy.  I hope that things will change for the better after this unfortunate incident.
  I want to make clear to those who've posted in defense of Catherine and William - it was not my intent to "trash" either of them.   I am a huge fan of  Kate's (I still am) and was simply disappointed because  this could have been prevented.   She has conducted herself in regal fashion over the years since she and William became a couple.   I have actually been proud of her, speaking as a "commoner" myself, albeit an American.   I truly feel for her right now.  I know this faux pas was totally innocent on her part.   I believe all of us who have posted on this topic are in agreement on that point.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on September 18, 2012, 11:02:29 AM
And on a lighter note....

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/17/kate-greeted-by-topless-women-solomon-islands-traditional-dress.html

Good for Kate!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on September 18, 2012, 03:18:04 PM
Rosie, Chris and Ann, you're all too good to be true!

William has had first hand experience of the media, including the way it treated his late mother, for his entire 30 years.  Surely that knowledge and experience should have warned him to protect his wife so that she could not be exploited by the media in the way that she has been?  The Cambridges cannot have it both ways.  If they want to protect their personal image and the prestige of the royal family then they are very careful, it's as simple as that.  It's the big drawback of who they are.  I fully accept that if they were any other young married couple, what they did was not wrong.  But they aren't and their decision has now ensured that the future Queen Consort can be publicly viewed topless for eternity. 

In the meantime, it's a bit more tarnish on the monarchy for the Queen to polish off.  HM has worked hard for over sixty years now with nothing like this ever touching her and she must wonder what on earth is going to happen after she is gone if her family continue to lapse so spectacularly and so often in ways that are so completely avoidable. 

I don't see any tarnish on the monarchy at all from this.  The only tarnish is on the photographer and the press who published the pictures.  They were in private, doing nothing wrong, immoral or criminal.  The fact that she was topless in a private situation was no reflection on her.  Had the pics been taken through a window while she was changing would it be any different?

The Queen was lucky to have grown up at a time when the press was not so intrusive.  Had the press been the same in her youth there would have been a lot more scandals (with the family, if not the queen herself) with the Duke of Kent, the Duke of Windsor, Princess Margaret in her youth and others.  All were involved in things with which the  press today would have a field day.

I heartily agree with Jehan.

BBC News: Kate topless photos: French injunction against magazine:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19631591

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on September 18, 2012, 07:43:09 PM
An outcome: BBC News - French court bans publication of topless photos:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19637636

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on September 19, 2012, 01:21:08 AM
Good - but will it have much effect?

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on September 19, 2012, 07:25:17 AM
Short term no.  Obviously the pics are out there, the damage has been done.  The tiny fine imposed (a mere swat on the wrist) is absolutely no deterrent when laid against the huge profits the magazines already made from the pics.  And someday in the future, the pictures will no doubt resurface.

But long term, the ruling does help.  It legally establishes that the royals have the right to privacy in certain circumstances, and editors will have to use that when debating whether to publish future questionable pictures.  Some will, of course, but the future punishments can be harsher because of this ruling.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on September 19, 2012, 07:53:38 AM
According to a news report first thing today, the magazine has been ordered to hand over all copies of the pictures by some time today (forget whether it was noon or some other time), or be fined £8,000 per day of delay. Unfortunately, £8,000pd is palret compared with the profits they have already made.

I agree with Chris that the principle is important.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on September 19, 2012, 04:57:02 PM
I've heard the Danish and Swedish press will be publishing the photos too, over a few pages.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: IvanVII on September 24, 2012, 02:09:52 PM
She was topless with her husband, I fail to see the issue or why anyone should consider it news worthy. If she had been caught cheating that would have been news.

Although unfortunatley it seems that a famous couple actually loves each other probably is news these days.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: rosieposie on September 26, 2012, 09:17:10 PM
It's almost like the whole Dodi/Di affair when they were crusing on the yachet or lets not forget the images of Duchess Fergie having her toes sucked.  Things that consenting adults do when in the moment and having to be ruined once the paps get a wind of it.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: koloagirl on September 30, 2012, 05:33:54 PM

Aloha!

I happened to be in Paris when all the furor over the "Closer" magazine was going on - it was out on the newsstands for 2 days I believe - after that, I didn't see it any longer.

It had a picture of the Duchess of Cambridge sans bikini top on the front cover - and quite a few pictures inside as well.   The cover kinda caught your eye!   :o

I agree that privacy should be respected, but I also think that even at a private estate, you should be very careful about removing your clothing outside - if you are a member of
the British Royal Family.

I think she learned a hard lesson about being "Royal" on that vacation.......

Janet R.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: THERRY on October 09, 2012, 08:42:08 AM
Kate Middleton: 1st public release after topless photos
http://www.purepeople.com/article/kate-middleton-1re-sortie-publique-bien-r-habillee-apres-les-photos-topless_a108214/1
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: THERRY on November 26, 2012, 04:03:01 AM
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge  at the Autumn International rugby match between Wales and New Zealand at the Millennium Stadium, Cardiff on November 24, 2012 in Cardiff, Wales.

http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Kate+Middleton/Will+Kate+Before+Welsh+Rugby+Match/tlREpzMzIvu
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on November 28, 2012, 08:54:47 PM
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visited Cambridge today. The royal visit and the history of the Dukes of Cambridge

http://www.royalhistorian.com/the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-make-their-first-visit-to-cambridge-a-royal-dukedom-since-the-restoration/
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on November 29, 2012, 07:42:37 AM
Perhaps I am missing something, but there has been talk on the news about The Duchess's new hair style. I don't see it. What am I missing? It still looks long and uncut. Perhaps the part is different? I don't see any big change.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on November 29, 2012, 02:55:30 PM
She supposedly got bangs according to the story I read (touting her 'new hairstyle') but the photo accompanying it, her hair was blowing so you couldn't tell if she did or not.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on November 29, 2012, 07:43:10 PM
Oh, OK. The picture posted above was from November 24? and her hair doesn't look any different.

No bangs or "fringe" to be seen.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on November 29, 2012, 08:25:30 PM
Sometimes 'getting bangs' can refer to have very long bangs than can be brushed to the side rather than worn directly over the forehead or as a fringe. These are what I have myself. I think Kate had her hair all one length and so this would be a 'huge' change for the press though unremarkable to just about anyone else. :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on November 30, 2012, 07:52:24 AM
I thought that might be the effect, but it isn't that big a change. Poor Kate. They have nothing else to say about her since the photo debacle and the onesy that everyone was talking about was a gift from a happy citizen and not an indication of her condition so they go for the "new hair style".
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on December 01, 2012, 05:21:53 PM
Kate visited her old primary school yesterday, St Andrews in Berkshire.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2240964/Duchess-Cambridge-Kate-Middleton-plays-hockey-high-heels.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2240964/Duchess-Cambridge-Kate-Middleton-plays-hockey-high-heels.html)

You can see her fringe better in some of the photos here.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on December 03, 2012, 10:09:15 AM
Oooooohhh Just announced that there is a baby on the way........
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on December 03, 2012, 10:12:13 AM
Hot off the press....poor girl has hyperemesis too...yuk
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20586343 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20586343)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on December 03, 2012, 11:07:04 AM
Congrats to William and Kate! Wonderful news! Also, I Hope she feels ok soon. Believe William is with her at the moment.

Official statement photo: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_megrzrXki21qjbtf2o1_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_megrzrXki21qjbtf2o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 03, 2012, 11:08:30 AM
Poor thing. I was so glad (and lucky!) I didn't have morning sickness with any of my pregnancies.

Let the name speculation begin!   :)

As William is determined to keep his mother's memory alive, I definitely think Diana will be one of the names for a girl but it won't be the first name.

I think boy or girl, it will be pretty traditional.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on December 03, 2012, 11:20:56 AM
Congratulations to Their Royal Highnesses, and to the rest of the royal family.  Wonderful news!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on December 03, 2012, 11:40:56 AM
Website is down, so the official statement has been posted like this:

http://www.dukeandduchessofcambridge.org/high-demand/baby/ (http://www.dukeandduchessofcambridge.org/high-demand/baby/)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on December 03, 2012, 11:47:52 AM
The official announcement of the Duchess of Cambridge's pregnancy apparently has come from the Duke of Cambridge's Office at St. James Palace, not from Buckingham Palace.  I'm probably the only one who's mind immediately goes to these things, but I wonder why?  What things are issued by BP, and which are issued by the individual Royal Households?

Looking back through the press releases on the Monarchy website, I find that it was the press secretary for the Queen (Buckingham Palace) who announced the engagement of the Prince of Wales and Mrs. Parker-Bowles (the Princes' own household didn't).  BP also announced the deaths of Princess Margaret and the Queen Mother, as well as the pregnancy of the Countess of Wessex and subsequent birth of Viscount Severn.  BP even announced Peter Phillips's engagement (his mother's household didn't).

So why would St. James announce this pregnancy rather than BP?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on December 03, 2012, 12:13:09 PM
Would like to add my delight and best wishes to the Royal Couple and congratulations to all of Great Britain    How exciting!  That'll be one good-looking child.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 03, 2012, 01:29:34 PM
I feel for Kate. In my last pregnancy i had terrible morning sickness and i could eat or drink anything cause i vomited EVERYTHING! (i lost 10 kgs in less than a month)

I hope she feel better soon and congratulations!!!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 03, 2012, 01:43:17 PM
I'm filled with happiness for the Duke and Duchess! It does make be a tad nervous that they announced the baby prior to the 12 week (1st trimester) mark. Poor girl, being nauseous is awful.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 03, 2012, 02:24:51 PM
The official announcement of the Duchess of Cambridge's pregnancy apparently has come from the Duke of Cambridge's Office at St. James Palace, not from Buckingham Palace.  I'm probably the only one who's mind immediately goes to these things, but I wonder why?  What things are issued by BP, and which are issued by the individual Royal Households?

Looking back through the press releases on the Monarchy website, I find that it was the press secretary for the Queen (Buckingham Palace) who announced the engagement of the Prince of Wales and Mrs. Parker-Bowles (the Princes' own household didn't).  BP also announced the deaths of Princess Margaret and the Queen Mother, as well as the pregnancy of the Countess of Wessex and subsequent birth of Viscount Severn.  BP even announced Peter Phillips's engagement (his mother's household didn't).

So why would St. James announce this pregnancy rather than BP?

I heard that the pregnancy was only confirmed to the couple when she was admitted to the hospital. Perhaps they had to move quickly to prevent any leaking to the press? That could explain the announcement prior to 12 weeks as well. Even if it wasn't confirmed to them then, just the fact they would have to say why she was in the hospital would lead to them having to more quickly announce than might have otherwise been planned.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 03, 2012, 02:29:21 PM
Hmmm.....  :)

"Professor Tim Draycott, a consultant obstetrician at the University of Bristol, said the condition was common in the early weeks of pregnancy but did not put the baby at any increased risk, although in extreme cases it can lead to the baby being born with a slightly low birth weight. Draycott told Reuters it may also indicate more than one royal baby may be in the offing."

Twins are also more common the older you get--especially past 30. Just for the sake of it, it would be interesting with the new law if she had twins--boy and girl. Better get that birth order absolutely straight on the certificates. :)

Here's a shot of the new bangs:

(http://www.nationalledger.com/media/images/kate-middleton-335/kate-middleton-hair-bangs.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 03, 2012, 02:54:28 PM
Just saw this on The Telegraph:

"The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge announced their pregnancy early amid concerns that it would become public on Twitter and the internet.

The Duchess, who is less than 12 weeks pregnant, decided to make news of her pregnancy public after she was taken to hospital because she was suffering from a severe form of morning sickness. A royal source confirmed that the couple were concerned that news of their pregnancy would leak out and be repeated on Twitter and other social-networking websites. Their decision comes amid growing concern that the internet appears beyond the reach of regulation. Lord Justice Leveson concluded it was an “ethical vacuum” which the press should seek to rise above."
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on December 03, 2012, 03:45:12 PM
It ceratinly would be interesting if the Duchess is pregnant with twins. I've read this condition is 'Caused by unusual increase in pregnancy hormone, which can be a sign a woman is pregnant with twins' so maybe? Maybe not? Who knows until any more news comes out!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2242350/Kate-Middleton-pregnant-Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-having-baby.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2242350/Kate-Middleton-pregnant-Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-having-baby.html)

Latest is Prince William has left the hospital (just over an hour ago). Also the royal baby will take the title of Prince/Princess.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 03, 2012, 03:48:43 PM
Im the living proof that s more a myth than reality ;)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on December 03, 2012, 04:05:35 PM
Comparing today's news with the last time there were 4 generations of the royal family alive at the same time!

http://www.royalhistorian.com/the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-are-expecting-their-first-child/
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on December 03, 2012, 05:28:13 PM
I had horrible morning sickness. I lost a lot of weight at the beginning.

I only gained 17 pounds over the 9 months and my son was born 9lbs 6oz. He was delivered by C Section.

He took up more than half of the pregnancy weight!

I am not sure that doctors are ever right about pregnancy symptoms.

I hope that this doesn't cause any problems for the Duchess. Stress and stain can be a big factor. I had to quit my job at about 8 weeks on doctor's orders. Besides vomiting at work doesn't go over in a big way.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 03, 2012, 05:48:47 PM
Comparing today's news with the last time there were 4 generations of the royal family alive at the same time!

http://www.royalhistorian.com/the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-are-expecting-their-first-child/

I was just talking to my husband about this at lunch! LOL  I hope they do a photo like the one of Queen Victoria/Edward VII/George V/Edward VIII.

There were 4 generations alive before--just not the monarch and direct heirs in 3 successive generations. They did a photo with Queen Alexandra/George V/Princess Mary/Lord Harewood in 1923.

(http://www.avictorian.com/victoria/victoria_royal_family_1894_Queen%20Victoria%20with%20future%20Edward%20VII%20George%20V%20and%20Edward%20VIII.jpg)  (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmnwttANE21qgz8jvo1_400.jpg)

I had hoped maybe to see one of EII/Anne/Peter Phillips/Savannah as the Queen's first great-grandchild ala the latter photo but they didn't take an official one apparently.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: IvanVII on December 03, 2012, 10:46:41 PM
Congratulations to the young couple. I will go out on a limb and wager on a a girl with the first two names being Elizabeth Diana.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on December 03, 2012, 10:55:06 PM
Since I heard this news, I keep thinking of Diana and how sad it is that she is missing out on this excitement...sad too for the forthcoming child not to have a loving, relatively young grandmother in his or her life on William's side.  She would be very proud and happy I'm sure.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Paul on December 04, 2012, 03:30:50 AM
Twins would be quite an event. That's happened among the Royals' German cousins, but does anyone recall any twins in the actual British royal line?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: carl fraley on December 04, 2012, 04:24:49 AM
The cabinet announced that regardless of the sex of the child it would follow it's father in the line of succession.  King George's Letters Patent state that The Eldest son of the Eldest SON of the Prince of Wales would be entitled to HRH otherwise if its a girl it would be Lady ********* Windsor.  I'm pretty sure though that HM would issue new Letters Patent IMO
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on December 04, 2012, 04:30:00 AM
Twins would be quite an event. That's happened among the Royals' German cousins, but does anyone recall any twins in the actual British royal line?

No, I actually do not....maybe someone with more knowledge could answer this? I'm not sure if twins run in Kate's family either...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on December 04, 2012, 05:31:43 AM
I don't see any history of twins in the British Royal Family. There have been twins in other royal families.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists say that twins are more common in women over the age of 30. I believe that the Duchess just turned 30 and so is not all that old.

On a personal note, I was 36 when my son was born and he is not a twin so no matter what the doctors think it appears to be just the chance of how many eggs are fertilized or if a single egg divides. They say that the percentage of multiple fertilized eggs or the slim chance of one egg splitting can go up after age 30. It is still only a chance not a medical certainty.

Are the stories about the Duchess from creditable sources or from the tabloids? Wishful thinking or solid medical fact?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 04, 2012, 05:45:12 AM
If in Kate´s family are twins, there are more possibilities of her having them.

According Wikipedia

"Women who have a family history of fraternal twins have a higher chance of producing fraternal twins themselves, as there is a genetically linked tendency to hyper-ovulate. There is no known genetic link for identical twinning. Other factors that increase the odds of having fraternal twins include maternal age, fertility drugs and other fertility treatments, nutrition, and prior births."

Full article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on December 04, 2012, 06:36:00 AM
Congrats to William and Catherine!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on December 04, 2012, 06:47:46 AM
Hmmm...very interesting. From what I've seen in Kate's family tree, no twins, but who knows? There could be twins going way back in Kate's ancestry/family tree! Obviously, having a history of twins would definitely increase chances. Ceratinly would be an interesting event IF she is having twins. I've also seen alot of people asking "If she has twins, who will be first in line?" and answer is simple. The elder twin!

In other news, William arrived to see Kate at the hospital at 11:30am this morning.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 04, 2012, 08:16:10 AM
Marlene announced on her blog that "Today, the palace announced that a son will be a prince and a daughter will be a princess.  "
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: LisaG on December 04, 2012, 09:53:04 AM
I'm putting my hat in the ring for "Helena" if it's a girl. Helena Elizabeth Diana Mary.

(I don't know why I think that, other than it's the only name of a daughter of Victoria that hasn't been used by the RF lately, to my knowledge.)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on December 04, 2012, 10:54:17 AM
Hi,

Very happy news for the Cambridges and the Royal Family.....  I am glad that all the speculation over the months has ceased now and we can get on with concrete facts - hopefully!!!

Are we now putting our hats in the ring - name wise - - OK here's mine:
Philippa for a girl - to honour Prince Philip;  and Queen Philippa, consort of Edward III;  and Philippa, who married a Portuguese king centuries ago...
James for a boy - to honour Scotland.

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on December 04, 2012, 11:48:17 AM
Philippa would also honour Kate's sister, Pippa (her real name is Philippa).
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 04, 2012, 02:43:50 PM
Hi,

Very happy news for the Cambridges and the Royal Family.....  I am glad that all the speculation over the months has ceased now and we can get on with concrete facts - hopefully!!!

Are we now putting our hats in the ring - name wise - - OK here's mine:
Philippa for a girl - to honour Prince Philip;  and Queen Philippa, consort of Edward III;  and Philippa, who married a Portuguese king centuries ago...
James for a boy - to honour Scotland.

Larry

Pippa Middleton's name is actually Philippa. I don't see it being a first name for the baby though.

I had put out James for one of the names, again, I don't think it will be a first name though it's one of my faves. Kate Middleton's brother's name is James as well. Since the couple met in Scotland at University, it would be a nice touch. :)

I'm going with:

girl--Victoria Elizabeth Diana [one other name--maybe Mary, Charlotte, Caroline or Philippa]
boy--George William Charles and a toss-up between Michael, James and Henry

There are actually a lot of good names floating around the couple in both of their families.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 04, 2012, 02:44:09 PM
Baby name fun! Okay, I'll chime in...

Girl: Charlotte Elizabeth Diana Carole

Boy: Arthur George Charles Michael
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: LisaG on December 04, 2012, 02:49:19 PM
I also thought Charlotte and/or Arthur!

Isn't Prince Edward's son named James? They can't have two Jameses.  My wish would be John, if only to break the "curse."
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 04, 2012, 02:58:00 PM
Great minds think alike Royal Watcher. :)

I think James could sneak in as a first name but, yes, Edward's son is James. But he will eventually be James, WhateverTheTitleIsThen whereas this would be a Prince James so it could be done. I mean, EII's father didn't mind becoming George VI even though he had a brother George. :)

I wonder if Albert might make another appearance. Or Alexandra.

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 04, 2012, 03:11:07 PM
So the parents:

Catherine Elizabeth and William Arthur Philip Louis

The Aunt & Uncles:

Henry Charles Albert David (Harry)
Philippa Charlotte (Pippa)
James William

The grandparents:

Carole Elizabeth & Michael Francis and Diana Frances & Charles Philip Arthur George

Great-Grandparents:

Peter Francis and Valerie (Michael Middleton's parents) & Ronald John James and Dorothy (Carole's parents)
Edward John and Frances Ruth (Diana's parents) & Elizabeth Alexandra Mary and Philip (Charles's parents)

Some Great-great-grandparents:
Victoria Alice Elisabeth Julie Marie & Andrew (Philip)
Albert Frederick Arthur George & Elizabeth Angela Marguerite (Elizabeth)
Albert Edward John & Cynthia Elinor Beatrix (Earl Spencer)
Edmund Maurice & Ruth Sylvia (Countess Spencer)
Richard Noel & Olivia Christiana (Peter Middleton)
Frederick George & Constance (Valerie Middleton)
Stephen Charles & Edith Eliza (Ronald Goldsmith)
Thomas & ??? (Dorothy Goldsmith)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on December 04, 2012, 06:18:56 PM
grandduchessella, I really like the name Alexandra too. I also like Victoria for aswell. Victoria Elizabeth? So many possibilities! For a boy, I quite like James, but then again, it is the same of Edward and Sophie's son. I quite like the name George.

Just have a feeling Elizabeth will be in the name somewhere if the first child is a girl.

Girl: Alexandra Rose or Victoria Elizabeth Diana
Boy: George Phillip Charles? (Haven't really thought about this one)

RoyalWatcher, I do like your name ideas!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on December 04, 2012, 06:45:57 PM
Hi,

Thank you Ella for all the various names of the relations.

I actually like Thomas and Dorothy too as different names for royalty.

And then of course, there's also Raine!!!!  Ha, ha........

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 04, 2012, 09:07:38 PM
Somehow I don't think Raine will make the cut. LOL

More tangential relations's names:

Alexandra--Queen Alexandra, Princess Alexandra (Mrs Angus Ogilvy) of Kent, Empress Alexandra, Duchess of Fife
Mary (or Marie)--Queen Mary, the Duchess of Teck, one of Elizabeth II's names
Louise--Princess Royal, Duchess of Argyll, Queen Louise of Sweden [but the name of Edward's daughter]
Margaret/Margarita--Countess of Snowdon and Crown Princess of Sweden (born a British princess), Margarita Armstrong-Jones, Philip's sister Margarita
Sarah--Sarah Armstrong-Jones [but I think the Fergie connection dooms it anyway!]
Anthony--Anthony Armstrong Jones
Marina--the late Duchess of Kent
James--besides Kate's brother, also James Ogilvy
Helen (or Helene, Helena or Ellen)--Helen Taylor, Queen Victoria's daughter, Helena Victoria of Schleswig-Holstein, Princess Nicholas & Queen Mother Helen of Romania (both Greeks)
Anne--the Princess Royal
Nicholas--Prince Nicholas of Greece, Nicholas (Duke of Kent's son)
Sophie/Sophia--Sophie Wessex, Queens Sophie of Greece and Sophia of Spain and Philip's sister Sophie
Cecilie--Philip's sister and the Queen Mother's mother's middle name [this is actually one of my favorite names :)]
Rose--Rose Gloucester and Princess Margaret's middle name
Maud--Queen of Norway, Countess of Southesk


Catherine/Katherine is not only Kate's name but the Duchess of Kent's as well.

Victoria is still my pick for a girl-- Victoria is not only the name of a great Queen (with so many parallel's to EII) but also the name of Philip's grandmother.

George is still my pick for a boy--there's George V, George VI and rumors Charles could go with the name as well when he becomes King; George Kent; George I of the Hellenes (William's great-great-grandfather), it's been one of the names for many of the male royals; St George, the patron saint of England; and the nice call-back to the last Duke of Cambridge

The Windsor's do like their throw-back names--Andrew has Beatrice and Eugenie, Edward has Louise and James. Anne was the only rebellious one. :) And that's continued with Peter's children--Savannah and Isla. Anne's name was itself pretty traditonal--Anne Elizabeth Alice Louise. I don't know why they picked Anne but Elizabeth (mother & grandmother), Alice (grandmother) and Louise (great-aunt) were pretty obvious choices.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 04, 2012, 09:54:56 PM
The cabinet announced that regardless of the sex of the child it would follow it's father in the line of succession.  King George's Letters Patent state that The Eldest son of the Eldest SON of the Prince of Wales would be entitled to HRH otherwise if its a girl it would be Lady ********* Windsor.  I'm pretty sure though that HM would issue new Letters Patent IMO


Marlene had more on her blog today:

"The British government "has received consent from the Commonwealth realms to 'press ahead legislation" to change the succession laws to the British crown. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, who is responsible for overseeing these changes said today:

"It is a wonderful coincidence that the final confirmation from the other realms arrived on the very day that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge made their announcement. The Government will soon introduce the Succession to the Crown Bill which will make our old fashioned rules fit for the 21st Century. It will write down in law what we agreed back in 2011 – that if the Duke and Duchess Cambridge have a baby girl, she can one day be our Queen even if she later has younger brothers."

...Apart from gender equality, and the removal of the loss of succession rights for those who marry Roman Catholics, the actual legislation has not been made public. We do know that the Act of Settlement will be superseded by the new law.  It also possible that the succession to the throne will be limited to a smaller group of people, perhaps the descendants of George VI or even Queen Elizabeth II."

The full article including some interesting bits about future titles--would the daughter be Princess of Wales eventually? Also, the fact that the anti-Catholic requirement would be scrapped, although not for the Sovereign himself/herself, obviously. And that the Act of Settlement would be scrapped with the loss of many, many dynasts:

http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com/2012/12/legislating-succession.html

Marlene is really the Queen (no pun intended!) of these kinds of details.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on December 05, 2012, 09:01:25 AM
They don't really need to pick four names.

But it is good that the royals stopped doing the five and six name thing in the early 20th century.

I would bet on Elizabeth and Diana (in what ever order) along with Mary or Victoria or both? Especially if the law changes and the baby girl will be the heir. Elizabeth Victoria Diana Mary (May)

I know that Queen Victoria had a son Arthur, but I have yet to figure out why so many royal sons also carry the name except that it does to go to the legendary Arthur

Does William have any favorite uncles as Charles did in Louis Mountbatten? The first name for a son would be up in the air, but I would bet on Charles and Phillip and either Michael or James being in there. Maybe even John for Diana's father. They seemed to have dropped the ubiquitous Albert.

QEII was named after her mother Elizabeth and Queen Alexandra and Queen Mary - odd since when she was born no one knew that she would be queen.

It looks like Margaret Rose came from her mother's name Marguerite but no info on the Rose. Anyone?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on December 05, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
It's about time that this "men first" law was scrapped.  Our current Queen, as well as Victoria and Elizabeth I, has shown that a woman is just as capable of doing the job as a man is.  So if William and Kate's first child is a girl, she has every right to be first in line to the throne.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on December 05, 2012, 12:55:28 PM
I heard on the news today that some dumb Australian Radio Station host, called the hospital and pretended to the the Queen (like the Queen would call the hospital on an unsecured line).

The radio host pretending to be the Queen said, "This is the Queen, I want to get some information on my darling Kate and her "tummy".

Pleassse! How could anyone working for that hospital fall for that!  But they did and gave out information on the Duchess's health!

The hospital employee is just as dumb as the Australian Radio Show host!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on December 05, 2012, 01:10:24 PM

It looks like Margaret Rose came from her mother's name Marguerite but no info on the Rose. Anyone?

Supposedly, she was given the second name Rose simply because her parents liked the name and thought it went well with Margaret.  The new baby's grandfather didn't like it.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: darius on December 05, 2012, 02:08:20 PM
The cabinet announced that regardless of the sex of the child it would follow it's father in the line of succession.  King George's Letters Patent state that The Eldest son of the Eldest SON of the Prince of Wales would be entitled to HRH otherwise if its a girl it would be Lady ********* Windsor.  I'm pretty sure though that HM would issue new Letters Patent IMO


Marlene had more on her blog today:

"The British government "has received consent from the Commonwealth realms to 'press ahead legislation" to change the succession laws to the British crown. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, who is responsible for overseeing these changes said today:

"It is a wonderful coincidence that the final confirmation from the other realms arrived on the very day that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge made their announcement. The Government will soon introduce the Succession to the Crown Bill which will make our old fashioned rules fit for the 21st Century. It will write down in law what we agreed back in 2011 – that if the Duke and Duchess Cambridge have a baby girl, she can one day be our Queen even if she later has younger brothers."

...Apart from gender equality, and the removal of the loss of succession rights for those who marry Roman Catholics, the actual legislation has not been made public. We do know that the Act of Settlement will be superseded by the new law.  It also possible that the succession to the throne will be limited to a smaller group of people, perhaps the descendants of George VI or even Queen Elizabeth II."

The full article including some interesting bits about future titles--would the daughter be Princess of Wales eventually? Also, the fact that the anti-Catholic requirement would be scrapped, although not for the Sovereign himself/herself, obviously. And that the Act of Settlement would be scrapped with the loss of many, many dynasts:

http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com/2012/12/legislating-succession.html

Marlene is really the Queen (no pun intended!) of these kinds of details.


Am I alone in feeling that this is on the most part the most needless legislation to ever be produced?  I find it incredible that the British Government have nothing better to do than tinker with these historic Acts of Parliament.  Yes, in principle I agree with the end of male primogeniture however, I fail to see where the public interest lies with scrapping the Act of Settlement.  This Act discriminates against nobody who is not born into or marries into the Royal Family.  What is the point of investing Parliamentary time legislating against having Elisabeth Ferner Beckman at No 87 in the line of succession, or Karina Medforth-Mills at No 92???  It would appear that once the decision was made to get rid of male primogeniture some government flunky decided to have a look at what other damage could be done to the fabric that underpins the Monarchy.  Will these people never realise that a nation is the result of historic laws and traditions; that they are part of the national story?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 05, 2012, 02:23:53 PM
But doesn't it discriminate? If you're a royal and marry a Catholic, you lose your place. If you're a Catholic who wants to marry into the royal family and not convert, you may do so but your spouse suffers and your children cannot keep their place (remote as it is) and be Catholic. I find it very offensive in this day and age.  It's also not so very ancient as it only dates back to 1701--not too long in all of Britain's history. The tinkering then (1701) messed with tradition moreso than changing it now.

However, the particular changes and their merits or lack thereof should probably be further carried on on this thread:

Government starts effort to change succession law
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=16821.0
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 05, 2012, 02:26:51 PM

It looks like Margaret Rose came from her mother's name Marguerite but no info on the Rose. Anyone?

Supposedly, she was given the second name Rose simply because her parents liked the name and thought it went well with Margaret.  The new baby's grandfather didn't like it.

"The Duchess of York originally wanted the names Ann Margaret, as she explained to Queen Mary in a letter: "I am very anxious to call her Ann Margaret, as I think Ann of York sounds pretty, & Elizabeth and Ann go so well together.  King George V disliked the name Ann, but approved of the alternative "Margaret Rose"."

So, the King DID like it, Rose, but it still doesn't explain where it came from. Perhaps 'the Rose of York' given how her father was the Duke of York at the time? Also, her aunt was named Rose--Rose Leveson-Gower, Countess Granville nee Bowes-Lyon. The Countess stood as godmother to her niece Margaret, as well.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on December 05, 2012, 05:32:15 PM
I'll bet is the from the Aunt.  It's a good thing they didn't go with Ann Margaret as there was (maybe still is) an actress of the same name.

Ann Margaret Olsson born April 28, 1941

Princess Margaret was born in 1930, so long before the actress, but still, when I hear Ann Margaret, she is who I think of.

Did anyone hear about that horrible prank and I posted about earlier?  I heard about it again on the news at 6PM so I guess it is true.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on December 05, 2012, 07:15:11 PM
Isn't the rose the most beloved flower in England?  Pehaps that was the reason for the name.   Is there some sort of rule that says those in the line of succession be named after previous monarchs?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 05, 2012, 07:55:13 PM
I'll bet is the from the Aunt.  It's a good thing they didn't go with Ann Margaret as there was (maybe still is) an actress of the same name.

Ann Margaret Olsson born April 28, 1941

Princess Margaret was born in 1930, so long before the actress, but still, when I hear Ann Margaret, she is who I think of.

Did anyone hear about that horrible prank and I posted about earlier?  I heard about it again on the news at 6PM so I guess it is true.

Yes, Alixz, I did hear of it this morning first thing. It was a disgusting prank. What on earth was that nurse not thinking? I hope she is able to retain her position albeit she's probably been transferred off Princess Kate's hospital ward and rightly so. In the US we have a thing called HIPAA (The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) which basically makes it illegal to share one's medical history to non qualified medical practitioners without the patient's explicit signed consent and other protections (it's a very detailed thing actually). I wonder if Britain has something similar in place. If so, then the nurse's job could be placed in jeopardy for disclosing the information she did. The two subjects who pulled this prank should be fired regardless. I have zero tolerance for the media outright violating a person's privacy...as should be known by my previous posts. Is there no decency left in the world? (rhetorical)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on December 05, 2012, 08:22:54 PM
Oh, come on, expecting the pranksters to be fired is a bit over the top I think.  They fully expected that the hospital would terminate their call as soon as they claimed it was the Queen and were amazed they were actually put through to the ward the Duchess was in.  The whole thing is just so absurd, it's unbelievable that anyone could really think it was HM!

I agree it was a silly thing to do but the mistake lies fair and square with the hospital - the switchboard operator for not screening the call for starters, the nurse involved if she did not follow correct protocols regarding giving out patient information or with the hospital itself if its privacy rules were lax.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 05, 2012, 08:41:11 PM
Yeah, I suppose the bit about the firing was over the top. Agreed.  :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: OctoberLily on December 05, 2012, 11:47:59 PM
Congratulations to the Duke and Duchess on their happy news!  And the best of wishes to Kate so that she may feel better quickly and be able to enjoy this special time in her life!

My picks for names are:

Boy:  Christian Charles Philip Henry

Girl:  Charlotte Elizabeth Diana Caroline

Wouldn't it be fun if one of us hits the mark on this?  8)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 06, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
The Duchess has been sprung

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1214507.1354793834!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-middleton-hospital-1206.jpg)

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1214510!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-middleton-hospital-1206.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on December 06, 2012, 11:33:29 AM
Can you imagine how utterly embarrassed that nurse must feel today?  She probably hung up from that call in total shock - and perhaps pride - that she had just spoken to "the Queen" and "the Prince of Wales".  I can almost picture her turning to whichever co-worker was nearby and relaying her conversation with the "royals".  Nobody in her life will likely ever let her live this down.

Of course, what she did was flatly wrong, and frankly stupid (I read the transcripts of the call, and it seems that anyone sufficiently educated to have been chosen as private nurse to a member of the royal family would have been able to figure out they were being duped)!  And no doubt their rules state that even if God himself called, you can't release medical information. 

But I know several nurses and how hard and long hours they work.  She could have been exhausted from a long shift, and taken off guard by having an unexpected call from "the sovereign" put through to her.  Poor thing - probably assigned to change bedpans the rest of the week, and no doubt will never be allowed in a VIP ward any longer.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 06, 2012, 02:15:58 PM
Yes, while she has to face up to her actions, I wonder if these 'pranksters' (and we have tons here in the US on the radio) realize the real-world consequences for some of their pranks. They were thinking of themselves and what a lark it would be. Granted, she's responsible for what she said but these 2 really make me angry.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on December 06, 2012, 04:26:49 PM
Those are lovely photos! Really love the flowers she is carrying!

About that Prank call, it makes me angry at what they did. So wrong and such an awful, digusting prank.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on December 06, 2012, 05:02:23 PM
I like William so much! He is thoughtful and considerate of his wife. I remember seeing Charles walk ahead of Diana and act as if he were the most important thing in the world even after William was born.

William always makes sure that Kate is cared about and cared for. That man will make a great Dad and and fine King.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on December 06, 2012, 05:09:33 PM
I like William so much! He is thoughtful and considerate of his wife. I remember seeing Charles walk ahead of Diana and act as if he were the most important thing in the world even after William was born.

William always makes sure that Kate is cared about and cared for. That man will make a great Dad and and fine King.

I completely agree. In photos, you can see he cares for her and looks out for her!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on December 06, 2012, 05:28:34 PM
With all that Kate's been through the past few days, she really looks very healthy, doesn't she?   Her eyes look clear and bright and that's where we would have noticed any signs of fatigue.   No amount of make-up could hide that.   They obviously took great care of her.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 06, 2012, 05:38:31 PM
I liked how his sweater and her scarf coordinated. :)  Kate actually looked pretty good--sometimes she wears her eyeliner a little to heavy and her hair a little fussy. She actually looks younger here.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on December 07, 2012, 08:43:23 AM
Oh, come on, expecting the pranksters to be fired is a bit over the top I think.  They fully expected that the hospital would terminate their call as soon as they claimed it was the Queen and were amazed they were actually put through to the ward the Duchess was in.  The whole thing is just so absurd, it's unbelievable that anyone could really think it was HM!

I agree it was a silly thing to do but the mistake lies fair and square with the hospital - the switchboard operator for not screening the call for starters, the nurse involved if she did not follow correct protocols regarding giving out patient information or with the hospital itself if its privacy rules were lax.


Breaking news just now. The switchboard operator has committed suicide. Poor, poor woman.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on December 07, 2012, 09:04:08 AM
Where did you hear this Kimberly?  I just searched BBC news and other sources and nobody is reporting it.  I sincerely hope that report is in error.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on December 07, 2012, 09:06:03 AM
It was breaking news in the Daily Wail...but I have just heard it announced on the radio.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244608/Kate-Middleton-hospital-receptionist-duped-Australian-DJs-prank-dies-suspected-suicide.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244608/Kate-Middleton-hospital-receptionist-duped-Australian-DJs-prank-dies-suspected-suicide.html)

She was actually a nurse who had worked at the hospital for 4 years. She was the one who answered the call and then put the caller through to the ward nurse. The hospital apparently doesnot employ a switchboard operator as such over night. Hmm wonder if those oh so trendy DJs have heard yet.......
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on December 07, 2012, 10:12:57 AM
How horrible!

Here in the US, she would have been on the "Today" show and offered a book deal. What a difference between cultures and countries.

(I am not saying that a book deal would have been appropriate, I don't think it would have been, but the US is into "everyone gets 15 minutes of fame" and this would have been hers.)

Remember the couple who got into the State Dinner without an invitation? They got news coverage for days and every talk show and news show rambled on about them ad nausea.

Poor woman.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: amelia on December 07, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
The couple in Australia should be made accountable for her death. What an horrible thing!!!!

Amelia
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on December 07, 2012, 10:24:42 AM
The couple in Australia should be made accountable for her death. What an horrible thing!!!!

Amelia

Amelia, they are not accountable for her death at all.  Nobody is responsible for another person choosing to end their life.  It was an embarrassing mistake but these always eventually blow over and this one would have as well.     
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 07, 2012, 10:59:23 AM
It was breaking news in the Daily Wail...but I have just heard it announced on the radio.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244608/Kate-Middleton-hospital-receptionist-duped-Australian-DJs-prank-dies-suspected-suicide.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244608/Kate-Middleton-hospital-receptionist-duped-Australian-DJs-prank-dies-suspected-suicide.html)

She was actually a nurse who had worked at the hospital for 4 years. She was the one who answered the call and then put the caller through to the ward nurse. The hospital apparently doesnot employ a switchboard operator as such over night. Hmm wonder if those oh so trendy DJs have heard yet.......

Wow. How utterly gut wrenching. My heart goes out to her family.
Title: TRH Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on December 07, 2012, 11:12:55 AM


The result of a sick sick joke!!This is a tad too far!!Horrendous!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20645838


I am disgusted by the jokes people think they can pull,I hope someone
will clabber these aussie dj-s over the head big time...Really,this is way
beyond what is decent,with a awfully tragic result!!...Oh God,poor thing
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 07, 2012, 11:13:48 AM
Those two DJs and anyone else involved with that call will carry this with them for the rest of their lives.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on December 07, 2012, 11:16:13 AM
The DJ's had no way of knowing this would happen.  Who would suspect this woman would kill herself over this?  

Sarah Palin got pranked the same way during the 2008 campaign (two Canadian DJ's pretended to be the President of France and she fell for it).  She was embarressed, yes, but didn't go so far as to kill herself.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on December 07, 2012, 11:19:34 AM
The DJ's had no way of knowing this would happen.  Who would suspect this woman would kill herself over this?  Sarah Palin got pranked the same way during the 2008 campaign (two Canadian DJ's pretended to be the President of France and she fell for it).  She was embarressed, yes, but didn't go so far as to kill herself.

The DJ's had NO BUSINEES in the first place other then to make themselves popular to the most vulgar of walking dumbo's....
And this is in No way a comparison with that idiot from Alaska..

This is about the nurse and TRH..No bimbo from Alaska,so don't even try and hyjack and make this a US thread again..Tim
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on December 07, 2012, 11:23:02 AM
WHOA!  Hold the phone there, dude.  I am not trying to "hijack" this thread, I was just making a comparison to another such prank.  That's all, no agenda here.  Chill.

As I said, there is no way anyone could suspect this poor nurse would go so far as to kill herself over this.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on December 07, 2012, 11:32:39 AM
WHOA!  Hold the phone there, dude.  I am not trying to "hijack" this thread, I was just making a comparison to another such prank.  That's all, no agenda here.  Chill.

As I said, there is no way anyone could suspect this poor nurse would go so far as to kill herself over this.

No NO..this is about crossing a border by the dj's..with this effect!!People better THINK beofre they think they can pull a joke next time..
but looking on fb and twitter it seems grey cells ran out at some point..and people just blabber  away and pull whatever gets to their head
without thinking..I condemn that,just as I condemn the ways others try to defend the wining ways of we couldn't know this or that...NO no..THINK !
A rare commodity..and even rarer by the day..or so it seems..in general that is.

Nurse Jacintha leaves her husband and two children and many other family members and friends...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: jehan on December 07, 2012, 12:30:42 PM
There is a difference here.  The prank on Sarah Palin was a prank on a public figure who had put herself in the public eye and knew that she would get both positive and negative attacks and knew she would have to handle press attention.

While this prank has been termed a prank on the Royal Family- it wasn't.  It was a prank on two (the receptionist and the nurse) hardworking private individuals who were just doing their jobs.  Did they follow procedure?  Obviously not, and there would and should have been repercussions though the workplace.  What they were not in a position to handle and what they never would have anticipated was the press attention and ridicule and criticism.  Few of us would be in a position to do well with that much publicity that they never asked for or wanted.  None of us know what other problems they had in their lives, but it was all too much for one of them . Sad.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 07, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
The FA had posted something on Facebook--that was the first I'd heard of it. So sad and tragic. :(

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/07/kate-middleton-nurse-found-dead-prank-callers_n_2257231.html

It's what I said yesterday about those 'pranksters' didn't even think about the consquences in the real world just 'oh what a laugh'.

I don't think they are accountable for her actual death--that resides with her--but they do bear some responsibility for the situation in its whole. They just didn't think. I'm sure it never crossed their minds she would commit such a drastic act but how they couldn't have foreseen some possible employment consequences? The poor woman must've had other issues, I would imagine. Was her name public before this? I had always just heard 'a receptionist' or 'a nurse' with anything more specific.

I wouldn't compare it to Sarah Palin at all. She didn't bear any repercussions--she was looked at as the victim of the prank more in line almost with being the Kate of the situation. This woman actually was faced with losing her job or at least being reassigned and facing lord knows what at work.

Prank calling has a long and (un)illustrious history in the US going back as far as I can remember. I mean, Howard Stern was pulling this stuff in the 80s. Usually it's harmless and people either think 'oh that was funny' or 'oh he's an asshole'. This was really interfering with someone's job.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 07, 2012, 02:38:20 PM
The Huffington Post has some updates to the basic story:

UPDATE: The palace has released a statement: "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are deeply saddened to learn of the death of Jacintha Saldanha. Their Royal Highnesses were looked after so wonderfully well at all times by everybody at King Edward VII Hospital and their thoughts and prayers are with Jacintha Saldanha’s family, friends and colleagues at this very sad time."

UPDATE II, 12:18pm: The two Australian radio hosts, Mel Greig and Michael Christian, have both taken down their Twitter accounts, reports journalist Daniel Bentley. An executive producer for the station, 2Day FM, told TMZ, "I advise you to stop trying to call them" as the hosts have been "ordered" not to speak to media.

UPDATE III, 1:31pm: Greig and Christian of 2Day FM will be stepping away from their duties following the news of Saldanha's death. Southern Cross Austereo, the company that owns the station, released a statement reported by TMZ, which says, "SCA and 2Day FM are deeply saddened by the tragic news of the death of nurse Jacintha Saldanha from King Edward VII’s Hospital. [...] SCA and the hosts have decided that they will not return to their radio show until further notice out of respect for what can only be described as a tragedy."
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Alixz on December 07, 2012, 03:37:45 PM
Have "they decided" or are the owners of the station now worried about a law suit from Jacintha's family?

They probably could not have known that she would take her own life, but I still feel that they should make some recompense to her family.

It almost feels like what is called "felony murder" which is defined as:  it makes any participant in such a felony criminally liable for any deaths that occur during or in furtherance of that felony.

I don't know if making a "prank" call is defined as a felony maybe it is just a misdemeanor but the suicide was a result of the "prank" and the pranksters should be punished by more that taking down their Twitter accounts and getting few days off.

Actually, I heard that the hospital was trying to work with Jacintha and was not punishing her in a major way. 

JMHO
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on December 07, 2012, 03:43:23 PM
Actually, I think this whole incident should stop being discussed on this thread now.  I don't know about any else, but I'm getting angrier and angrier with each successive post.

This is no longer about the royal family, it is simply arguing about who was "responsible" for this woman's death (I know what I think about it) and the media and this thread is turning the whole thing into nothing but a witch-hunt which will help nobody.

Can we get on to discussing William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 07, 2012, 05:45:30 PM
Have "they decided" or are the owners of the station now worried about a law suit from Jacintha's family?

They probably could not have known that she would take her own life, but I still feel that they should make some recompense to her family.

It almost feels like what is called "felony murder" which is defined as:  it makes any participant in such a felony criminally liable for any deaths that occur during or in furtherance of that felony.

I don't know if making a "prank" call is defined as a felony maybe it is just a misdemeanor but the suicide was a result of the "prank" and the pranksters should be punished by more that taking down their Twitter accounts and getting few days off.

Actually, I heard that the hospital was trying to work with Jacintha and was not punishing her in a major way.  

JMHO

It wouldn't even be felony murder here in the US and I don't think it's a felony in the UK or Australia either. I don't think even depraved indifference would be charged here because that has an expectation that some harm could come as a result of the action and I don't think ANYbody saw this happening.

Prince Charles, poked fun about the incident with reporters on Thursday (obviously before the tragedy) when he said he was very glad to hear the Duchess was feeling better.

“How do you know I’m not a radio station,” he joked, later adding that he is “thrilled” about the pregnancy. “It’s a very nice thought to become a grandfather in my old age, if I can say so,” Charles said at an event in London. He also said that “I’m very glad my daughter-in-law is getting better, thank goodness.”


The Washington Post noted that the royals have been the target of hoax callers before. Canadian disc jockey Pierre Brassard telephoned the queen in 1995, pretending to be Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien. In a conversation that lasted 15 minutes, Brassard managed to elicit a promise from the monarch that that she would try to influence Quebec’s referendum on proposals to break away from Canada.

The case obviously ended on a much more somber note: The DJs have stepped down, or been asked to, temporarily; the Duke and Duchess have issued a statement as has the hospital--I don't know what may have gone on with the poor woman to cause her to take such drastic action but now that's it's moved away from the issue of the Duchess it's probably for the best to move the discussion along now. May she rest in peace and may her family find the strength to get through this trying time with the press hopefully backing off of them and giving them space to grieve and not digging around the woman's life too much.

With the DJ's 'prank' (which started off as an intrusion into the Duchess's privacy) and the telephoto lens photos of the Duchess sunbathing, I can't imagine either William or Catherine feel too much of a sense of privacy right now--at this most personal time in a married couple's life. :(

On a cheerier note, a couple more photos from when the Duchess left the hospital. I don't envy her putting on hose when feeling so badly, but otherwise I thought she had a good balance of being comfortable (because who wants to dress up when leaving the hospital) but fashionable enough for the gazillion cameras waiting them.

(http://www.globalnews.ca/uploadedImages/Global_News/World/katemiddleton_hospital.jpg?size=sw380nws)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/892091/thumbs/o-DUKE-AND-DUCHESS-OF-CAMBRIDGE-570.jpg?5)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 07, 2012, 05:51:11 PM
On the name topic again:

"Royal children often boast an array of middle names offering them the chance to include a nod to both sets of relatives. They also might incorporate a Welsh name to reflect their links to Wales, a name with historical connections to the city of Cambridge or perhaps something Scottish to represent the time they spent together in St Andrews.

Linda Rosenkrantz and Pamela Redmond Satran, the authors of Cool Names for Babies, already have their predictions on the babyzone website - posted before Kate was even pregnant.

Suggestions include Alice (the name of Queen Victoria's second daughter and also the Duke of Edinburgh's mother), Amelia (George II's second daughter), Dorothea (meaning gift of god) and Charlotte (wife of George III) for a girl and Augustus (George II's middle name), Frederick (a son of George III) or Leopold (a son of Queen Victoria).

The last example of a great granddaughter of a still serving Sovereign born on the male line was Princess Mary, who was born in 1897 and was George VI's sister and a great granddaughter of Queen Victoria.

As to the child's surname, according to the monarchy's official website: "For the most part, members of the Royal Family who are entitled to the style and dignity of HRH Prince or Princess do not need a surname, but if at any time any of them do need a surname (such as upon marriage), that surname is Mountbatten-Windsor." William has used Wales professionally in the forces. His children might use Cambridge in the same way, or even Wales too as William still retains his title Prince William of Wales.

Bookmaker William Hill said it will pay out a "small five-figure sum" after many people betted on a 2013 royal baby. Speculation is rife over whether the Cambridges will have a boy or a girl, and what they will name their first born.

Odds are 10/11 for a boy and the same for a girl. Favourite names are Frances and John, both at 9/1, while Charles, Victoria and George are 10/1.

Spokesman Joe Crilly said: "We fully expect that the betting public will get involved in speculating what the baby will be called. When William and Catherine got married we were bowled over by a million pounds worth of bets and we predict similar levels of excitement before the birth of their first child."

William Hill is even offering odds on the colour of the newborn's hair - 6/4 brown, 2/1 blonde, 5/2 black, and 8/1 ginger.

Odds for other names include Anne, Diana, Phillip, Richard and Spencer at 12/1; Mary, Henry and Sarah at 14/1; Carole, William and Edward at 16/1; Alice, David, Victoria, Albert and Arthur at 20/1; and Elizabeth at 25/1.

If they think that baby has a better chance of having Fergie's name than the Queen's...well, I just don't know!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on December 07, 2012, 06:07:55 PM
Some royal tidbits:

*Kate's illness brought forward the royal couple's announcement ahead of the 12-week mark, with Prince Harry, who is currently serving in Afghanistan told over email and the Queen also only informed today (12/3). The royal pregnancy announcement on Monday was so unexpected even the Queen had only been aware she had another grandchild on the way an hour earlier.

*According to the Daily Mail's Royal correspondent Rebecca English, the pair had been hoping to keep the news to themselves until Christmas Day. "Members of the Royal Family – including the Queen and grandfather-to-be Prince Charles – were informed less than an hour before the statement was put out at 4pm yesterday."


*Prince Phillip was the last royal to be treated at the King Edward VII's Hospital Sister Agnes, spending five days there during the Queen's Jubilee having treatment for a bladder infection.

*Other royal patient: Grandfather to-be Prince Charles had a routine hernia operation there in 2003, while Camilla had a hysterectomy at the private hospital in 2008. Sophie, the Countess of Wessex, was admitted to the hospital with an ectopic pregnancy in 2001. The late Queen Mother had two hip replacements performed by medical staff there and had a fish bone removed from her throat at the hospital in November 1982.

*Twitter is already being flooded with messages regarding people's feelings about the sheer number of press that were camped out in front of the hospital--some referring to them as 'vultures'. Politicians also weighed in: "Foreign Secretary William Hague suggested the newly announced pregnancy of the Duchess of Cambridge could be seen as a test of press restraint. "Let's hope that she gets some privacy from the media as appropriate - without needing any new laws to tell the media to do that," he told ITV's The Agenda with Tom Bradby.

*The couple had been on a visit to earlier and William had accepted a handmade baby outfit. The handmade baby-gro featured a helicopter and the words "Daddy's little co-pilot" - a reference to the Prince's career as a search and rescue captain. Samantha Hill told The Mirror: "I made it for when his little one comes along, he's a helicopter pilot so his baby will think his daddy is cool. "When I gave it to him he said 'I'll keep that' and handed it to his aide."

*Princess Mary, Princess Royal (b.1897) was the last great-granddaughter born to a sitting sovereign.


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Post by: grandduchessella on December 07, 2012, 06:12:53 PM
Huffington Post had some funny 'Amazing Royal Baby Facts'

Until 1956, all royal babies were kept in cages.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/267462/slide_267462_1835382_free.jpg?1354620607012)

All royal babies get their names by combining four names popular during the Victorian era with the name 'Windsor'.

All royal babies look like the young Winston Churchill - a fact which endlessly amuses their families.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/267462/slide_267462_1835388_free.jpg?1354620607018)

It is impossible to guess the sex of a royal baby from its attire.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/267462/slide_267462_1835558_free.jpg?1354623592110)  (http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/267462/slide_267462_1835389_free.jpg?1354620607019)

Royal babies grow up in the grounds of fairytale castles, where they vie for attention with corgis.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/267462/slide_267462_1835393_free.jpg?1354620607023)

Everyone is happy when a royal baby arrives.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/267462/slide_267462_1835395_free.jpg?1354620607024)
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 07, 2012, 07:02:08 PM
I find it somewhat amusing that the Huffington Post referred to a "playpen" as a "cage!" Unbelievable.
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Post by: grandduchessella on December 07, 2012, 07:17:21 PM
Well, they meant it all in humor. (Like the 'everyone's happy' one with everyone staring unsmilingly at the camera) They were all faux facts though some of them have a ring of truth! :)

I liked the one that says they dig through Victorian names and just stick a mishmash of 4 of them with Windsor. LOL

The whole article had more--learning to wave, etc...
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Post by: Alixz on December 07, 2012, 07:48:14 PM
I have a friend who is a rabid Royal-ophile. When Diana went to Glamis to "learn" from the Queen Mother, my friend said that the first thing she would be taught was to 'wear those flowery yet stylish hats".

Of course she was joking.

The Duchess already has her own "hat style". At least she doesn't wear the strange creations worn by Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie.
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Post by: grandduchessella on December 07, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
Beatrice and Eugenie are totally upstaged by their 86 year old Grandma hat-wise. :)  The Queen's hats have gotten very stylish the last decade or so.
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Post by: Alixz on December 08, 2012, 09:16:51 AM
In general the Queen has become much more stylish in the last decade. I wonder just how much of her dowdiness was because of her mother's influence?

I know that my mother always thought about what my grandmother would think about things before she made any decisions. My mother is 90 and born in the same decade as the Queen.

Maybe it is the decade and the styles and culture of her youth.
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on January 06, 2013, 07:20:40 PM
Baby name fun! Okay, I'll chime in...

Girl: Charlotte Elizabeth Diana Carole

Boy: Arthur George Charles Michael

Well, I am sure my initial baby name is out now that Earl Spencer and new wife have just christened their little baby girl Lady Charlotte Diana Spencer.
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on January 09, 2013, 04:22:14 AM

HRH The Duchess of Cambridge celebrates her 31st birthday today!
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Post by: Jen_94 on January 09, 2013, 04:27:54 AM
Happy birthday to HRH The Duchess of Cambridge for today! :)
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Post by: CHRISinUSA on January 09, 2013, 07:44:09 AM
The BBC are reporting that the Queen has earmarked Amner Hall, about 2 miles from Sandringham House, as the future country home of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.  Part of the Sandringham Estate since 1898, the hall was rented by the Duke and Duchess of Kent from 1972 - 1990, and is currently occupied by the Everett family, owners of a kitchen and timber company Norfolk Oak. 

The Hall's current lease expires in 2017, which makes me wonder - will the Cambridges' have no country home for the next 4-5 years, or a temporary one, or perhaps will the Queen buy out the Amner Hall lease early?

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Post by: Lucien on January 09, 2013, 02:40:33 PM

HRH The Duchess of Cambridge celebrates her 31st birthday today!

And also:

HM The Queen has issued Laters Patent that in case the baby of TRH is a girl,,she will be styled a Princess and titled as HRH,
not a mere Lady.

 :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20962102

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Post by: Suzanne on January 09, 2013, 03:08:56 PM
Some additional background on the December 31, 2012 Letters Patent granting equal titles to all the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's children

http://www.royalhistorian.com/queen-elizabeth-decrees-that-all-of-the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridges-children-will-be-princes-and-princesses/
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Post by: Jen_94 on January 10, 2013, 04:37:38 PM
Well, it seems the royal couple spent Kate's 31st in an evening out in London. The Duke and Duchess were spotted seeing the Cirque du Soeli's show, Kooza at the Royal Albert Hall last night.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/kate-middleton/9794296/Duchess-of-Cambridge-celebrates-31st-birthday-with-family-outing.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/kate-middleton/9794296/Duchess-of-Cambridge-celebrates-31st-birthday-with-family-outing.html)
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on January 10, 2013, 05:44:11 PM
The BBC are reporting that the Queen has earmarked Amner Hall, about 2 miles from Sandringham House, as the future country home of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.  Part of the Sandringham Estate since 1898, the hall was rented by the Duke and Duchess of Kent from 1972 - 1990, and is currently occupied by the Everett family, owners of a kitchen and timber company Norfolk Oak. 

The Hall's current lease expires in 2017, which makes me wonder - will the Cambridges' have no country home for the next 4-5 years, or a temporary one, or perhaps will the Queen buy out the Amner Hall lease early?



And, now The Telegraph is reporting the same thing with details including a planning application that has already been filed on the Grade II listed property:
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9793380/Prince-William-and-Kate-Middleton-to-be-given-a-rural-home-fit-for-a-Royal-family.html

I suppose the property that the PoW was building called "Harewood Park Estate" is indeed not intended for William and Kate after all.
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Post by: CHRISinUSA on January 11, 2013, 07:52:00 AM
Apparently not.  Amner will make a nice family home for the couple.  But it does make me wonder about the royal housing shuffle in the next reign. When Charles becomes King, he'll gain Balmoral and Sandringham.  Highgrove is owned by the Duchy of Cornwall, so won't that pass to William?  I suppose at that point Amner Hall could be given to Harry and his eventual wife.
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Post by: grandduchessella on January 11, 2013, 10:27:59 AM
Kate's first official portrait. The bottom half of her face looks like an older woman.

(http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2013011/reg_634.katemiddleton.painting.jlc.11113.jpeg)
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Post by: Jen_94 on January 11, 2013, 12:12:14 PM
Ok, my opinion:

Right up close, I think the portrait looks so much better. From the distance, not really. The only thing I like 100% about the portrait is the fact it looks so real and also the way the hair was painted. The portrait doesn't flatter her that much, I don't think.

Kate and William made an appearance (Kate wearing a rather nice dress, and looking healthy!) at the National Portrait Gallery, London to view the painting unveiled today. The Middletons were also there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2260655/Kate-Middleton-Rotten-official-portrait-Duchess-Cambridge-artist-Paul-Emsley-unveiled.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2260655/Kate-Middleton-Rotten-official-portrait-Duchess-Cambridge-artist-Paul-Emsley-unveiled.html)
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Post by: Gerta on January 11, 2013, 12:19:17 PM
I agree, the portrait is not becoming. Showing bags under the eyes, small wrinkles and tired eyes, it really looks like a passport photo.  I think they could have found a better artist to do the portrait.
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Post by: Sara Araújo on January 11, 2013, 03:27:02 PM
I think that the main issue with the portrait is that it really makes her look much older than what she is. It's almost as if we're looking at a future version of herself. Considering the fact that she's pregnant this is even more awkward, as one would expect her to look healthy, young and fresh as that is usually the idea we have of young mothers. And it just doesn't look like herself. Other than that I think it's very well executed.
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on January 11, 2013, 05:44:27 PM
Her hair in the portrait is phenomenal. Absolutely gorgeous. However, her face looks jaundice and the painted nose seems twice the size of her actual one. Bummer. Is this the one that the PoW commissioned?
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Post by: DNAgenie on January 11, 2013, 08:19:17 PM
I read somewhere that Kate wanted the portrait to show the real person, not her public face.  And she has a degree in art history, after all, so she presumably knows what she wants.
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Post by: grandduchessella on January 11, 2013, 10:28:04 PM
Then the artist presumably thought her 'real face' was snide and a bit calculating. :/  That's the impression I get when I look at it. Art is very subjective, however. If they wanted a discussion started then they got that at least! She was also familiar with the artist's style so she would've known how it may come across.
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Post by: Grace and Diana Fan on January 12, 2013, 02:44:30 PM
In my honest opinion, the artist did an amazing job! He drew from a real-life picture from which she posed, and the painting looks just like the actual photo. I don't understand the fuss from the media. I think they are used to seeing air-brushed images of Kate, and this one is the exact opposite; this is how she really looks.

Case in point:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/11/article-2260655-16E0414A000005DC-368_634x443.jpg)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/11/article-2260655-16E0412F000005DC-393_634x353.jpg)
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Post by: grandduchessella on January 12, 2013, 10:23:20 PM
I still think it's unflattering regardless of talent level, photos, etc...If I was going to be immortalized for millions to see, I want to look good! :)

However, you bring up a  point that really bothers me--the fact that we almost can't recognize what people actually look like anymore. It used to just be some minor touching-up for shadows, facial hair, etc...on magazine covers. Now, everyone on a magazine cover looks increasingly like a freakish Barbie doll--very plastic looking in face and body. Plus, more and more it's just not professional shots for magazine covers but everyday shots for public consumption--even so-called candid shots by the paparazzi are being photoshopped. Obviously, news photos used to be touched up but it seems very out of hand lately. So, yes, you're right, we probably are so used to seeing even candids of Kate being touched up to some degree that it is a shock to see a portrait where she has shadows and bags and other flaws. Maybe we are just becoming re-conditioned as to what's flattering and what's not.
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Post by: Kalafrana on January 13, 2013, 08:40:25 AM
In the midst of all this I suddenly realised that we really don't know what Kate looks like - she has never been seen without make-up!

I remember reading a piece about her about the time of the wedding - it said that even when she was a first year student she used to wear make-up to go out running.

Ann
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Post by: Alixz on January 13, 2013, 09:46:26 AM
I think the portrait is so very dark compared to even the picture that was used.

I think she looks tired and bored.

We are so used to seeing her sunny smile from her walk abouts and not that half smile in the portrait.

To each her own.
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Post by: Jen_94 on January 14, 2013, 07:09:10 AM
It has been announced today that the royal baby is due in July. :)
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Post by: Lucien on March 06, 2013, 03:45:24 AM
HRH The Duchess of Cambridge visited Grimsby yesterday.

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=05-03-2013%20Grimsby

courtesy Albert Nieboer of Dutch PPE photo agency.
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Post by: Jen_94 on March 06, 2013, 07:43:50 AM
Kate looks wonderful, I think. She looks well! Thanks for the photos.

Did you hear about her slip up, prompting people to think she's having a little girl? Took a teddy and said, "Ooh is this for our d...." stopping hastily, then saying, "Thank you so much."
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Post by: Maria the Beautiful on March 06, 2013, 10:23:39 AM
Some women have all the luck!  I think I had a bigger belly bump the day I was born than Kate has at 5 months pregnant.  Bless her heart.
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Post by: darius on March 06, 2013, 01:21:48 PM
Kate looks wonderful, I think. She looks well! Thanks for the photos.

Did you hear about her slip up, prompting people to think she's having a little girl? Took a teddy and said, "Ooh is this for our d...." stopping hastily, then saying, "Thank you so much."

I think the majority of the British population would look great if they were tanned from Mustique and just back from a weekend in Switzerland!  Hate to be a grinch, but I just cannot warm to this couple...
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Post by: Grace on March 06, 2013, 04:51:36 PM
Darius, I agree with you, I think they have some work to do.  However, I did suggest this some time back and the view was not popular!
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Post by: darius on March 06, 2013, 11:17:40 PM
I appreciate that they are young and are trying to lead a semi-normal life however, their position and privilege mean sacrifice and duty above all the rest.  That is their job and that is what they need to do.  I am a convinced Monarchist but the activities of the Queen´s grandchildren do not help a monarchist cause.  Yes, the Duke of Cambridge is a serving RAF officer but I think the time has come for him to fully embrace the firm and not opt out of what is not suitable for him.  Harry´s visit to Lesotho is admirable but he shouldn´t forget that his first duty lies in the UK which also has a part of its population living in eceonomic misery.  The York princesses are a case apart...  somebody needs to ake a decision on whether or not they will be Royals (and by that I mean do what Royals do ie. visit hospitals, factories, engage with the people), or will not be Royal in which case I think they should renounce their HRH and Princess titles and disappear. 60 years of hard work by HM and The DofE appears to be squandered by this highly privileged and spoilt generation.
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on March 07, 2013, 04:28:27 PM
Kate looks wonderful, I think. She looks well! Thanks for the photos.

Did you hear about her slip up, prompting people to think she's having a little girl? Took a teddy and said, "Ooh is this for our d...." stopping hastily, then saying, "Thank you so much."

This story got me to thinking....maybe she wasn't going to say "daughter"....maybe she was going to say "twins!" The lips look similar when starting to pronounce both words. :) 
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on March 07, 2013, 04:46:24 PM
I appreciate that they are young and are trying to lead a semi-normal life however, their position and privilege mean sacrifice and duty above all the rest.  That is their job and that is what they need to do.  I am a convinced Monarchist but the activities of the Queen´s grandchildren do not help a monarchist cause.  Yes, the Duke of Cambridge is a serving RAF officer but I think the time has come for him to fully embrace the firm and not opt out of what is not suitable for him.  Harry´s visit to Lesotho is admirable but he shouldn´t forget that his first duty lies in the UK which also has a part of its population living in eceonomic misery.  The York princesses are a case apart...  somebody needs to ake a decision on whether or not they will be Royals (and by that I mean do what Royals do ie. visit hospitals, factories, engage with the people), or will not be Royal in which case I think they should renounce their HRH and Princess titles and disappear. 60 years of hard work by HM and The DofE appears to be squandered by this highly privileged and spoilt generation.

I used to feel that way about William. I wanted him to get on with his royal role...full-time. He's good at....a natural. But now that he's married and they are starting their family, I don't begrudge either of them continuing on they way they have been since it will afford them more privacy to raise their family. Similar to what HM and the DoE were afforded after their marriage. I know, it was a different time. I wouldn't be surprised if William stayed in the background as he has for another 5-10 years. Until such time that HM really does need to slow down and the PoW takes an even larger roll. Then, it will be more than time for William to step forward into the role to which he was born. All that being said, I would be pleasantly surprised if he ditched his RAF career and started full-time in the Firm. I love his and his brother's youthful energy...it's needed and they both make a huge and positive impact.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on March 07, 2013, 05:45:49 PM
Kate looks wonderful, I think. She looks well! Thanks for the photos.

Did you hear about her slip up, prompting people to think she's having a little girl? Took a teddy and said, "Ooh is this for our d...." stopping hastily, then saying, "Thank you so much."

This story got me to thinking....maybe she wasn't going to say "daughter"....maybe she was going to say "twins!" The lips look similar when starting to pronounce both words. :) 

Alot of people think she was going to say dog for some reason but I don't think so...she says she doesn't know yet BUT we'll just have to wait until July to find out if that WAS a slip up or not....! Interesting observation about the 'twins' thing though...
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Post by: CHRISinUSA on March 08, 2013, 08:17:38 AM
Yes, the Duke of Cambridge is a serving RAF officer but I think the time has come for him to fully embrace the firm and not opt out of what is not suitable for him.  Harry´s visit to Lesotho is admirable but he shouldn´t forget that his first duty lies in the UK which also has a part of its population living in eceonomic misery.  The York princesses are a case apart...  somebody needs to ake a decision on whether or not they will be Royals or will not be Royal in which case I think they should renounce their HRH and Princess titles and disappear.

As history proves, every action brings reactions - and I suspect the palace takes a wider, more cautious view of things.  They tend to practice patience and let things happen naturally - however slowly it appears to us on the outside.

There is the matter of volume and cost:  the goal is to reduce the working royals, not increase them.  There are already 12 elder royals on the royal circuit.  Bringing the younger generation forward now will bring stronger calls for the elders to retire, and they may not be ready to do so.  The Queen's cousins are of retirement age and starting to step back, but Andrew, Edward and Anne are still middle-age and have many more working years ahead of them.  What else would they do?

There is also a matter of priority.  Charles and Camilla are next on the throne, so the palace's first goal is to solidify Charles as the next monarch, not to mention continuing to best to position Camilla as an acceptable consort in the public view.  Moving William forward now could actually hurt that objective.

There is also learning from past mistakes - letting Kate settle into her role slowly - and letting her add motherhood into the mix before she launches into full time royal duties - may prevent a repeat of recent royal marriage disasters.  And it is pretty clear to all that Harry is still a wee bit too immature to be yet trusted as a full time public face of the British nation.  He has a little more growing up to do first, and the military is a good training ground for a young man.

Looking at the whole picture, I think the palace's current plans are wise.  Focus now on Charles and Camilla.  When the current reign starts to wind down and the elder royals retire, then bring the younger ones forward.  In the meantime, let the younger ones continue to mature and prepare.  As to the York princesses, I've read that Andrew is lobbying for them to be working royals.  Yet they are only given the occasional token duty to perform so far.  I suspect the Queen is hedging her bets for now to keep the peace.  But I also suspect once Charles has grandchildren to secure the succession into the next generation and he himself ascends the throne, the Yorks will be encouraged to pursue private lives.  That is just guessing on my part, though.
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Post by: Lucien on March 08, 2013, 11:04:31 AM
Agree Chris!That's the proper order,nothing else.They'll be ok as they are doing OK already!
No doubts,anything else is really ragslike...we could choose to stand above that sort of thing.. :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on March 08, 2013, 04:42:56 PM
Hi,

My take on this is:
Who would I stand in a crowd and wait for?
The Queen and Prince Philip
William and Catherine
Princess Alexandra

The rest, I wouldn't waste my time.  I have no problem (qualms) with Princess Anne, Prince Edward & Sophie and Prince Harry;  but I wouldn't go out of my way to see them.
The Gloucesters and the Kents have done their duty and I guess, continue to do so - but I wouldn't bother seeing them either.
The rest are a waste of space and money.

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: darius on March 09, 2013, 02:45:57 AM
And the Prince of Wales??  I think he has done a decent job as heir over the past 50 years.  Despite his rather complicated personality I believe he has done his best to serve the public good over the years. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on March 09, 2013, 09:31:36 AM
Hi Darius,

Charles and Camilla - I wouldn't give 2 farthings for them.

Every day, I give thanks that The Queen is still with us....  Long may she reign...

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Princess of Cupertino on March 09, 2013, 11:01:14 AM
I think the public hasn't treated the POW with justice. He's much more of an intellectual than his parents or children. He's done his duties well. He seems a great father after all. Like Edward VII he has a different vision for the monarch than his mother. I think history may well rest on his side as it did with E VII. the public has been largely focused on his rather sad personal life. I'm happy he's finally with the woman he loves and finds contentment. Whether he reigns or not he's left his mark.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on March 09, 2013, 04:57:55 PM
This is getting a bit off topic. This line of discussion would probably be better of on this thread:

Current Perception of the Windsors and the Future of the Monarchy
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=6834.540
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Post by: Lucien on March 18, 2013, 12:13:44 AM

The Duke has been appointed a personal Aid-de-Camp of The Queen
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on March 18, 2013, 12:08:18 PM
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/prince-william-appointed-personal-aide-de-camp-t_836114.html (http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/prince-william-appointed-personal-aide-de-camp-t_836114.html)

More information here.
Title: TRH Prince William and Princess Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on April 05, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
The Count and Countess of Strathearn visited,ao,Glasgow,and they met with the Duke of Rothesay at Dumfries House...grin..:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=04-04-2013%20Glasgow


http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=04-04-2013%20Dewar


courtesy PPE
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 06, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
I'm confused. If William and Kate are known as the Earl and Countess of Strathearn while in Scotland, which is one of William's subsidiary titles...if William has a son, that son would be given the Earl of Strathern title from birth. So, if both William and his son are in Scotland...they'd both use the same title? This sounds wonky to me. From my understanding, only the PoW (and his consort) has a Scottish title while in Scotland.

Can someone provide some insight into this title confusion for me?
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Post by: Jen_94 on April 06, 2013, 04:51:38 PM
That's an interesting question. What title do the Earl/Countess children usually get? I know in Sophie and Edward's case, Louise and James got Viscount (I think) and Lady. Hopefully someone here knows the answer to your question.
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Post by: Kalafrana on April 07, 2013, 02:45:37 AM
Under the 1917 Royal Warrant, children of a monarch, male line grandchildren and the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales are HRH Prince/Princess from birth. Presumably this will be extended to cover a female heir apparent under the succession to the Crown Bill currently going through Parliament.

Whether the Earl of Strathearn's eldest son has a specific Scottish title depends on whether or not the Duke of Rothesay has a third Scottish title. Normal practice with peerages is that the eldest son uses his father's second title by courtesy (i.e. he is called by it), and the eldest son's eldest son uses the third, provided, of course, that there is one. There were problems in 1914 when Arthur of Connaught's son (the future second Duke of Connaught) was born, as no one realised that, following practice up to then, he should have been HH Prince Alasdair of Connaught, and the Duke of Connaught didn't have a third peerage. Things then drifted and the young man ended up using his mother's second title (she was Duchess of Fife in her own right), and was known as the Earl of MacDuff until he succeeded his grandfather in 1942.

Ann
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Post by: CHRISinUSA on April 08, 2013, 08:47:22 AM
Actually Her Majesty has already taken care of the matter of titles for the children of William and Catherine, and extended it to all children born to the couple, not simply the eldest son (or eldest daughter).

“The QUEEN has been pleased by Letters Patent under the Great Seal of the Realm dated 31 December 2012 to declare that all the children of the eldest son of The Prince of Wales should have and enjoy the style, title and attribute of Royal Highness with the titular dignity of Prince or Princess prefixed to their Christian names or with such other titles of honour.”


Any courtesy titles used by William's offspring doesn't have anything to do with Charles' titles anymore - on the day William was given his own peerages he stopped drawing his title from his father (ie.  he stopped being HRH Prince William of Wales) and started to hold them in his own right (by the will of the Sovereign).  That principal extends to William's children - they will draw their styling from their father, not their grandfather.  William's children will each officially be HRH Prince / Princess X of Cambridge.  But as to any courtesy titles the firstborn may use (if any), that is an interesting question!  It probably won't be resolved until we know if its a boy or a girl.  

Charles being known as Duke of Rothesay in Scotland is a legal / constitutional matter - that dukedom was legally held by the heir to the Scottish throne (same as Duke of Cornwall in England).  That is why William was never Duke of Cornwall or Duke of Rothesay himself (even though under normal peerage rules he would have been able to as firstborn son and heir).  I suspect that William being known as Earl of Strathearn in Scotland has no similar legal basis, but is rather being used informally (no differently than if Andrew visited Inverness and was referred to as its earl).

A firstborn girl will not automatically gain a courtesy style because the Letters Patent creating William's peerage included the standard form "heirs male".  The Queen would have to issue new letters placing a daughter in the line of succession for William's titles for her to be able to use his subsidiary title by courtesy.  But if the child is a boy, he will automatically be heir apparent to William's titles and entitled to use a subsidiary title by courtesy.  Whether he does or not - and which title he uses - depends on the preference of his parents and the Queen (under normal practice each noble family chooses which subsidiary title is used by the heir  - and it isn't always the highest ranking one).

We shall just have to wait and see how this plays out.  My bet - no courtesy titles will be used by any of William's children - they will stay prince / princess of Cambridge until the present reign ends.
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Post by: Jen_94 on April 08, 2013, 11:04:03 AM
Very useful information. Thanks for all that! I did not know HM had already taken care of it all, although it doesn't surprise me she has done.
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Post by: Suzanne on April 12, 2013, 03:36:20 PM
The lastest favourite in the betting on the royal baby name is "Alexandra"

http://www.royalhistorian.com/princess-alexandra-of-cambridge-the-history-of-a-potential-royal-baby-name/
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Post by: Jen_94 on April 13, 2013, 06:05:53 AM
I like Alexandra for a girl, actually. One of the Queen's middle names, a Name of a Britsih Queen and also Princess Alexandra, the Queen's cousin.
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Post by: LisaG on April 19, 2013, 11:02:29 AM
I like it too, but am still hoping for Helena or Mathilda. ::fingers crossed::
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Post by: Jen_94 on April 19, 2013, 04:43:01 PM
I like it too, but am still hoping for Helena or Mathilda. ::fingers crossed::


Helena is a nice choice! I like that. Queen Helena also has a nice ring to it.
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Post by: Suzanne on May 29, 2013, 06:01:12 PM
Speaking of royal babies, here's my blog post today on 5 royal parenting trends that are actually centuries old. I've noticed a lot of recent coverage on the upcoming royal baby assumes that Diana introduced all "modern" royal parenting trends from breastfeeding to taking a royal baby on tour.

http://www.royalhistorian.com/5-modern-royal-parenting-trends-that-are-actually-centuries-old/
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Post by: Kalafrana on May 30, 2013, 03:24:29 AM
My father noticed in the paper a couple of days ago that the child is due in the bracket 24 July - 23 August. 23 August is his birthday, but I doubt that William and Catherine are going to call the child Richard after him!

Incidentally, why has everyone apparently decided that the child is going to be a girl?

Ann
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Post by: Jen_94 on May 30, 2013, 06:52:49 AM
William and Kate have also said Mid July. So I'm confused. We'll just have to wait and see when it arrives!

Ann, I'd love Will and Kate to have a girl, but I wouldn't mind a boy either. As long as the child is healthy, that's all that matters in my opinion! I think it's the case of people just wanting it to be a girl, plus the 'Is that for my d...' incident in Grimsby, obviously is making people think it's a girl she's having? I don't really know....but maybe that's why?
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Post by: Kalafrana on May 30, 2013, 09:42:41 AM
I think the world had decided it was going to be a girl before the Grimsby incident. Being contrary, I'm now rather hoping it's a boy!

Ann
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Post by: Jen_94 on May 30, 2013, 12:32:24 PM
Hm, remember when everyone assumed twins as well due to the HG she had?

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a boy to be honest though...
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on May 30, 2013, 02:12:58 PM
Speaking from my own family history (and everyone's is very different), male children caused extreme, and I mean extreme, morning sickness for the mother in the first trimester even into the beginning part of the second trimester. Because of this, my guess is that she is carrying a boy.
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Post by: Suzanne on June 20, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
New details regarding the royal birth were announced this week. I've incorporated them into a short history of the royal delivery room

http://www.royalhistorian.com/the-duchess-of-cambridge-to-give-birth-at-st-marys-hospital-in-london-a-short-history-of-the-royal-delivery-room/
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Post by: Jen_94 on June 21, 2013, 07:18:19 AM
Speaking from my own family history (and everyone's is very different), male children caused extreme, and I mean extreme, morning sickness for the mother in the first trimester even into the beginning part of the second trimester. Because of this, my guess is that she is carrying a boy.

Hm, it also wouldn't surprise me if she is carrying a boy indeed. I've seen more male births in the Windsor family than that of girls.
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 01, 2013, 02:47:40 PM
The name game! (Start humming it in you head now!)

It's getting closer to the royal birth and I have had a change of heart regarding my initial baby name guesses. So here goes again...

Little Princess: Alexandra Elizabeth Diana Carole/Victoria. I feel really confident about Alexandra, Elizabeth and Diana, but not so much on Carole. William and Kate could go classic and choose Victoria. I could be wrong and most likely I am!

Little Prince: Phillip Charles Arthur George. I think their first little boy will be called Phillip. It just makes sense...a nod to William's grandpa. Charles....because he is William's father and future king. Arthur and George seem like shoe-ins since George VI, Charles and William (except for the name George) have those two names as well. My Little Prince names do not include Kate's father, Michael Francis. If there is a second son, I think Michael would be one of the names...for sure. Again, I could be and probably am completely wrong! William seems to have quite a fondness for his father-in-law so who knows.

My research which brought me to my name guesses:

Phillip: Phillip
Charles: Charles Phillip Arthur George
Michael: Michael Francis
Harry: Henry Charles Albert David
William: William Arthur Phillip Louis

Elizabeth: Elizabeth Alexandra Mary
Carole: Carole Elizabeth
Diana: Diana Francis
Kate: Catherine Elizabeth





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Post by: Kalafrana on July 02, 2013, 03:30:06 AM
We have to bear in mind that the child is a future monarch, which, I think, rules out Philip - rather a pity, but the only other Philip to be King of England was Philip II of Spain through his marriage to Mary Tudor. Not a happy precedent.

Ann
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 02, 2013, 05:16:52 AM
For the name game...
Girl: I feel confident about Alexandra too. One of the Queen's middle names, the name of a British Queen and also the Queen's cousin, Princess Alexandra. Victoria would be nice too. My guess would be Alexandra Victoria Diana Elizabeth OR what about Mary in the name? The Queen's other middle name and also a nod to William's Great Grandmother, Queen Mary. I'm certain Elizabeth will be in the name if they have a girl, Kate's middle name and the name of the Queen of course. Name guesses for a girl are:
Alexandra Victoria Diana Elizabeth
Alexandra Mary Victoria Elizabeth 

Or Victoria for a first name?
Victoria Mary Alexandra Elizabeth.

Boy: I quite like the names Arthur and George. Phillip I think will be in the name somewhere, well it wouldn't surprise me, a nod to Prince Phillip, like RoyalWatcher said. I've been looking at names...Edmund? Could that also be a possibility? Arthur will likely be in the name somewhere. James would have been my top choice for a boy, but isn't that the name of Sophie and Edward's son? At the moment, I quite like George. Albert could be a possibility.

All I could come up with was: George Phillip Arthur Charles? 

And have you seen? Press have started camping outside the hospital already!
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Post by: CHRISinUSA on July 02, 2013, 07:40:20 AM
We have to bear in mind that the child is a future monarch, which, I think, rules out Philip - rather a pity, but the only other Philip to be King of England was Philip II of Spain through his marriage to Mary Tudor. Not a happy precedent.Ann

I tend to agree with you Ann, they will most certainly name the child keeping in mind that he/she will eventually be monarch.   So if a girl, I suspect they wouldn't choose Victoria as first name (there will already be a reigning Queen Victoria - of Sweden - in the next generation).  Not that it would be a deal-breaker, but still.  The royals do like continuity, so a future Elizabeth III would be a possibility.  On the other hand - would the whole Scottish numbering controversy stop that?  (the Scots weren't happy with EII since there was never a EI in Scotland).  The future potential of an independent Scotland might be enough to head off Elizabeth as a choice.

For a boy, no doubt they would first consider what regnal name Charles - and William - intend to use as monarch.  Many assume Charles will choose George VII, and William will be William V), but we don't know for certain.  So far in Britain there have been 11 Kings named Edward, 8 named Henry, 6 named George, 4 Williams, 3 Richards, 2 Charles, 2 Edmund, 2 Harolds, 2 James, and 1 each Alfred, John, Edgar, Steven and a bunch of other names that would no longer be suitable in modern times.

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Post by: grandduchessella on July 02, 2013, 09:55:48 AM
I can't remember exactly what order of the names I had predicted before but I don't think I've changed too much on the names themselves--I think the first name will be either Charlotte or Alexandra and I think Elizabeth, Diana and Carole (or Caroline) will be in the mix. Probably 4 names alltogether? So Charlotte/Alexandra Elizabeth Diana Carole. I had thought Victoria but with the future Queen Victoria of Sweden there--2 Queen Victorias now matter how brief the overlap? I don't know.  For a boy, I think the first name will be George with Charles, Michael and Philip in the mix.
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Post by: LisaG on July 02, 2013, 10:53:40 AM
I'm still holding out for my dark horses - Helena and Mathilda. Helena because it's the only one of Victoria's daughter's names that hasn't been used by the RF, and Mathilda because, if this baby is a girl, then she'll be the first English monarch who will rule over a brother since Mathilda/Maud. (Right? I think that's right.) But that's just me!

I still think George for a boy, but my dark house there is Arthur.
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Post by: grandduchessella on July 02, 2013, 11:33:46 AM
Ever since Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught, the name has been in the mix for the men in the direct line:

Albert Frederick Arthur George (GVI)
Charles Phillip Arthur George
William Arthur Philip Louis

but not as a first name. Do you think they'd want to go with a potential King Arthur? (Of course, the monarch can choose to be called whatever he wants so he could be Prince Arthur up until the time he became King) I hadn't realized that William had it as well so I could definitely see it being somewhere in the mix, if only for tradition's sake.

Sarah Chatto's son is also named Arthur. :)
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 02, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
I'm still holding out for my dark horses - Helena and Mathilda. Helena because it's the only one of Victoria's daughter's names that hasn't been used by the RF, and Mathilda because, if this baby is a girl, then she'll be the first English monarch who will rule over a brother since Mathilda/Maud. (Right? I think that's right.) But that's just me!

I still think George for a boy, but my dark house there is Arthur.

Princess Eugenie's name is Eugenie Victoria Helena. I like the name Helena too.
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Post by: Kalafrana on July 02, 2013, 01:33:24 PM
Matilda never did reign. She and her supporters claimed that she was the rightful ruler, but never that she was the ruler. This was at a time when a reign began with the coronation, and she was never crowned.

Ann
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 02, 2013, 03:07:16 PM
We have to bear in mind that the child is a future monarch, which, I think, rules out Philip - rather a pity, but the only other Philip to be King of England was Philip II of Spain through his marriage to Mary Tudor. Not a happy precedent.

Ann

I was thinking the exact same thing, but what ultimately tipped my guess was William himself. His approach to royal life is so different from his family. I think it would secretly tickle HM if he and Kate decided to name him Phillip (but not as much as if they choice Albert or George after her beloved Papa), and I think Phillip would be super chuffed about it albeit privately. Talk about breaking with tradition! That's what William seems to try to do when possible. I hope they choose the names they want even if that means breaking with royal tradition. Here's to hoping they do!

=Annie=
(aka Ann Elizabeth)
(aka RoyalWatcher)
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Post by: IvanVII on July 02, 2013, 10:22:07 PM
We have to bear in mind that the child is a future monarch, which, I think, rules out Philip - rather a pity, but the only other Philip to be King of England was Philip II of Spain through his marriage to Mary Tudor. Not a happy precedent.

Ann

I was thinking the exact same thing, but what ultimately tipped my guess was William himself. His approach to royal life is so different from his family. I think it would secretly tickle HM if he and Kate decided to name him Phillip (but not as much as if they choice Albert or George after her beloved Papa), and I think Phillip would be super chuffed about it albeit privately. Talk about breaking with tradition! That's what William seems to try to do when possible. I hope they choose the names they want even if that means breaking with royal tradition. Here's to hoping they do!

=Annie=
(aka Ann Elizabeth)
(aka RoyalWatcher)

The thing is he likes to break tradition while being respectful about it, so I think Philip becomes a real choice.
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Post by: Janet Ashton on July 07, 2013, 04:38:12 AM
I'm still holding out for my dark horses - Helena and Mathilda. Helena because it's the only one of Victoria's daughter's names that hasn't been used by the RF, and Mathilda because, if this baby is a girl, then she'll be the first English monarch who will rule over a brother since Mathilda/Maud. (Right? I think that's right.) But that's just me!

I still think George for a boy, but my dark house there is Arthur.

This is quite interesting, because Matilda and Arthur are both rather popular as names at the moment - and also very ancient in terms of Royal tradition. Matilda keeps popping up on boards as a suggestion, but I expect they'll go for something less obviously fashionble...they seem fairly conservative sort of people!
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Post by: grandduchessella on July 07, 2013, 11:49:21 AM
I don't think it will happen but someone on another group mentioned 'Eleanor/Eleanore'. That could be very pretty. If the Cambridges have more than one child, it will be interesting to see what they may come up with after the pressure of naming the future monarch is off. I don't think they'd go with a Zara or anything even then but they'd certainly have more freedom to play about. Maybe a Matilda (Australia would really love that) or Arthur could pop up then.
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 07, 2013, 01:08:57 PM
Eleanor is certainly a pretty name. William mentioned that they were thinking about having two children.

Victoria is now the bookies favourite alongside Charlotte and Alexandra for a girl.
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/1858178/report-bookies-shut-shop-as-victoria-emerges-top-candidate-for-royal-baby-name (http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/1858178/report-bookies-shut-shop-as-victoria-emerges-top-candidate-for-royal-baby-name)
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 08, 2013, 07:25:09 PM
Is anyone else checking the news feeds every so often [obsessively  ;) ] ever since the media threw out a wild guess last week that maybe Kate's due date isn't actually the 13th, but earlier as Diana had done with William's due date...supposedly?
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Post by: Vecchiolarry on July 08, 2013, 09:36:24 PM
Hi,

I'm still going with Eleanor and Philip...

But I would not be disappointed if Charlotte or Alexandra were chosen...  Victoria, Elizabeth and Caroline would be second names for my choices.
Geoffrey is another I'd pick for a first name and even Gregory or Christopher;  and Richard or Frederick for a second one.

We've had too many Henrys, Edwards and Georges and James is a long shot and John is a non-runner...
Mary is boring and Diana is trouble;  and I guess Joanna is out (Juana la Loca).....  Sophia and Amelia would be different!

Larry
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Post by: Kalafrana on July 09, 2013, 03:01:26 AM
We've had quite a lot of Fredericks as first names under the Hanoverians and as middle names more recently (George VI was Albert Frederick Arthur George), but King Frederick sounds terribly German!

The Danes have had alternating Christians and Frederiks for 500 years, so a narrow name pool for monarchs need not cause problems.

Ann
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 09, 2013, 04:00:16 AM
Is anyone else checking the news feeds every so often [obsessively  ;) ] ever since the media threw out a wild guess last week that maybe Kate's due date isn't actually the 13th, but earlier as Diana had done with William's due date...supposedly?

I have been doing so, every day! The baby could come any day now. I have a feeling something is going to happen this week or early next.
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Post by: CHRISinUSA on July 09, 2013, 12:54:54 PM
I have a question about how royal and noble titles co-exist.  The papers are all today reporting that the child will be titled HRH Prince X of Cambridge, or HRH Princess Y of Cambridge.  I understand that is due to the Queen's Letters patent (issued earlier this year) that all of the children born to the Cambridges would be entitled to the HRH style and the rank and title of Prince / Princess of the UK.  Without those special Letters Patent, the 1917 Letters Patent of George V would apply, and as a male line great-grandchild of the Queen the baby would only be styled as the child of a duke.

But if the child is a son, isn't he also entitled to use William's senior subsidiary peerage title - and in this case become HRH Earl of Strathearn?  Edward's son is Viscount Severn - if he had been allowed to adopt his royal birthright and be known as a prince, would he still be HRH Prince James, Viscount Severn? 

Or is the overriding rule that if you hold a royal princely title by birth, than you don't also add a courtesy peerage title to the end of that?

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Post by: mcdnab on July 09, 2013, 02:01:36 PM
In the case of Viscount Severn he is using the title by courtesy as the son of any other British Earl would do. He is not a peer himself.
Were he a HRH - custom would dictate that he would not use the courtesy title as his HRH would be his own style and ranks higher so does not need to use a courtesy title  - HRH Prince James of Wessex.
The children of Royal Duke's who are the grandchildren (or great grandchildren which will only apply to the Cambridge's children) of a sovereign are usually HRH and take their style from their father's peerage unless they bear a title in their own right
So Edward VIII during his great grandmother's reign was Prince Edward of York, during his grandfathers Prince Edward of Wales, during his father's HRH The Prince of Wales.
The of Wales, or of Cambridge, or of York is just easier than HRH, Prince... of Great Britain and Northern Ireland etc - it also easily identifies whose offspring they are.
Under the George V letters patent only the eldest grandson of the Prince of Wales is entitled to the HRH style - the other issue would be styled as those of a Duke.
The Queen was making sure that all the Cambridge's children born during her lifetime will get the style they would eventually gain in later life as first the grandchildren and then the children of a reigning sovereign.


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Post by: CHRISinUSA on July 09, 2013, 02:04:59 PM
Thanks for the information, as I suspected a HRH doesn't use a courtesy title.  Makes sense.
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Post by: Vecchiolarry on July 13, 2013, 09:46:17 AM
Hi,

As the birth of "thee royale babee" approacheth,  here are some old royal names that may be considered - other than the ones now bandied about:

Herleva     Harold
Matilda      Edmond
Emma       Edgar
Edith         Thomas
Judith        Lionel
Cecily        Humphrey
Blanche     Roger
Constance  Robert
Arabella     Owen
Sophia      Jasper
Dorothy(ea)   Guilford
Sarah        Rupert
Marjorie     Rudolph
Ingrid        Roderick
Irene        Leopold
Violet        Ernest
Alma        Anthony

And lastly, my name Lawrence if a boy;  and Laura if a girl.....

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 13, 2013, 05:37:48 PM
In the case of Viscount Severn he is using the title by courtesy as the son of any other British Earl would do. He is not a peer himself.
Were he a HRH - custom would dictate that he would not use the courtesy title as his HRH would be his own style and ranks higher so does not need to use a courtesy title  - HRH Prince James of Wessex.
The children of Royal Duke's who are the grandchildren (or great grandchildren which will only apply to the Cambridge's children) of a sovereign are usually HRH and take their style from their father's peerage unless they bear a title in their own right
So Edward VIII during his great grandmother's reign was Prince Edward of York, during his grandfathers Prince Edward of Wales, during his father's HRH The Prince of Wales.
The of Wales, or of Cambridge, or of York is just easier than HRH, Prince... of Great Britain and Northern Ireland etc - it also easily identifies whose offspring they are.
Under the George V letters patent only the eldest grandson of the Prince of Wales is entitled to the HRH style - the other issue would be styled as those of a Duke.
The Queen was making sure that all the Cambridge's children born during her lifetime will get the style they would eventually gain in later life as first the grandchildren and then the children of a reigning sovereign.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, mcdnab. I have posted about this very same topic a few times now and have been unable to obtain a clear answer. It totally makes sense. So, I won't get all bothered and annoyed anymore when the media and others refer to Prince William as the Earl of Strathearn while in Scotland or the Baron Carrickfergus while in N. Ireland. Seriously, thank you for your explanation.
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Post by: mcdnab on July 14, 2013, 10:19:44 AM
Both the Earldom of Strathearn and Baron Carrickfergus are titles William was granted along with the Dukedom of Cambridge - when in Scotland or N Ireland he uses the title that relate to those countries - as his father does (Duke of Rothesay when in Scotland rather than Prince of Wales).
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Post by: CHRISinUSA on July 19, 2013, 01:05:29 PM
I've just read reports that the Duke and Duchess abruptly left the Middleton family home this afternoon bound for London.  No news yet on whether they are returning to Kensington Palace, or heading directly to hospital.  Fingers crossed - this might be the start.
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Post by: Maria the Beautiful on July 19, 2013, 06:25:02 PM
I've just read reports that the Duke and Duchess abruptly left the Middleton family home this afternoon bound for London.  No news yet on whether they are returning to Kensington Palace, or heading directly to hospital.  Fingers crossed - this might be the start.

I was so excited when I read your post I immediately began checking the news channels and online reports to see if anything was being mentioned about the incident.   All I found was this report of the local firefighters near Bucklebury responding to a call from the Middleton home this afternoon to rescue one of Kate's dogs that got it's head caught in a gate.   Seems all is well now - the pup is fine  and  . . .  no baby yet! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/kate-middleton/10191968/Firefighters-rush-to-rescue-pet-dog-at-Duchess-of-Cambridges-home.html
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Post by: Grace on July 22, 2013, 01:55:07 AM
The Duchess of Cambridge has been admitted to hospital to have her baby!!!


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/kate-goes-into-labour/story-fni0cx4q-1226683283511 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/kate-goes-into-labour/story-fni0cx4q-1226683283511)
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Post by: Kimberly on July 22, 2013, 02:12:54 AM
Oh dear Lord!!!!
We have just had a midwife on the news explaining to us plebs what "early labour" is all about.
I am running for the hills..............
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 22, 2013, 03:13:06 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2350630/Duchess-Cambridge-rushed-hospital-goes-labour.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2350630/Duchess-Cambridge-rushed-hospital-goes-labour.html)

Watching this all on the news at the moment, quite excited!
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 22, 2013, 09:24:19 AM
I am beyond EXCITED ! ! !
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Post by: TimM on July 22, 2013, 10:03:30 AM
Hopefully, we'll hear the good news soon.
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Post by: Kimberly on July 22, 2013, 10:42:00 AM
Poor Kate, in labour on the hottest day of the year too.
What really boils my wotsits is this horrendous media circus, "why hasn't she had it yet...do you think she has been induced" etc. etc.
And of course, once the child is born the media will be rolling out some bliddy so-called experts on breast feeding/childcare/how to get rid of  that post baby tummy ( I have given up with that bit after 26 years cos everything has "gone south") :-).
Grrr,I do feel sorry for William and Katherine but on the other hand, I am rather looking forward to seeing Niagra Falls being lit up...blue for a boy, pink for a girl.
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Post by: Kimberly on July 22, 2013, 02:38:06 PM
ITS A BOY. 8 lb 6 oz born 16.24.
Many congrats.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Tony de Gandarillas on July 22, 2013, 02:39:27 PM
Yes, Congratulations! For he's a jolly good fellow!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on July 22, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
I'm watching it unfold all on Sky News! Congratulations to Will and Kate! The Easel has just gone outside Buckingham Palace.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Erika on July 22, 2013, 02:50:53 PM
I am very glad for Will and Kate, but I must admit that I am a little disappointed. I had hoped for a girl - Queen Alexandra!
Congratulations to the happy parents!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 22, 2013, 03:18:34 PM
Oh my goodness what delightful and happy news! Congratulations to the new parents: Kate and Wills!!!

Three cheers for the new royal prince...hip hip hooray!

(My guess was right...a boy prince!)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 22, 2013, 03:34:22 PM
She certainly didn't look like she was carrying a 8 lb. 6 oz. baby...wow! Bless her heart.   :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on July 22, 2013, 03:47:09 PM
Congratulations to Kate and William!  Welcome to the world little "Baby Boy Cambridge"!   I'm so happy for the Royal Family and Great Britain, although I do have to admit I was also a tinge dissappointed it wasn't a little girl.   
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on July 22, 2013, 08:16:06 PM
Congrats to William and Catherine on the birth of their new son.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on July 23, 2013, 02:58:21 AM
My guess was right, too.

My money's on George!

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on July 23, 2013, 03:03:14 AM
We'll just have to wait and see what they name him.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Erika on July 23, 2013, 03:20:40 AM
My guess was right, too.

My money's on George!

Ann

I think he will be named George as well.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Greenowl on July 23, 2013, 03:42:09 AM
Wonderful news! I'm so happy for the proud parents (and grandparents).
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on July 23, 2013, 03:13:34 PM
Looks like a chunky little chap. Oh I so love that yummy new baby smell.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: OctoberLily on July 24, 2013, 01:54:25 AM
Congratulations to William and Catherine!  I just love watching these two.  They are just so delightfully normal.  Lovely moment in front of hospital today.....proud, beaming parents so obviously in love with their baby boy, and each other.   :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on July 24, 2013, 10:46:11 AM
Hi,

Congratulations and best wishes to the Cambridges and to the Nation and Commonwealth....  The Monarchy is secure for the next near century, it seems!!  3 Kings in the queue - waiting - WOW.......

I'm still hoping for Geoffrey, an old royal name..
But, I'd be happy with Philip or Alexander also;  let's have something different...

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on July 24, 2013, 12:23:04 PM
Well, you got your wish Larry :-)
its George Alexander Louis.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23443504 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23443504)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on July 24, 2013, 01:23:25 PM
George Alexander Louis--a name replete with family history an connections.

George--the name of six previous Kings (including the Queen's beloved grandfather and the reigning name, if not the given name, of her father) as well as the name of the last Prince and Duke of Cambridge prior to William and baby George

Alexander--the name of the founders of both the Teck (Queen Mary) and Battenberg/Mountbatten (Phillip) houses as well as a nice nod to Scotland--much-loved by the British royal family and perhaps a nod to where the couple met

Louis--The Hessian line is well-represented here both through the lines of Ludwig IV and Princess Alice and through the Battenbergs (Louis Battenberg and Louis Mountbatten). Charles has the name George where William has the name Lous amongst their 4 names as well.

So there were nods to Elizabeth, Phillip, William and Charles (and the Cambridge name) in the name pick. It's a nice tying together as well of the various branches--Teck/Cambridge, Windsor, Hesse/Battenberg/Mountbatten which make up this generation of the family. A very royal name with a very royal heritage given the baby's position.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 24, 2013, 03:03:49 PM
Wonderful name analysis, grandduchessella!

You gotta love William and Kate...they keep us all guessing. I'm tickled that they did name their little boy George. Wonderful! I didn't guess right this time. I am surprised that their are only three names when four are traditional. I think I have my answer as to why only three names in my last sentence.

Welcome to the world, Prince George of Cambridge!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on July 25, 2013, 02:02:57 AM
The future King George VII.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on July 25, 2013, 02:11:37 AM
Well, it might be George VIII if Charles chooses George as his regnal name.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on July 25, 2013, 04:23:03 AM
I rather thank the Prince of Wales will reign as Charles III. We've all got too used to him as Charles.

I'm a bit surprised they didn't include charles or Philip among the names, and I'm not mad on Louis, but George Alexander is just the thing.

Long live the future King George!

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Greenowl on July 25, 2013, 05:52:52 AM
I rather thank the Prince of Wales will reign as Charles III. We've all got too used to him as Charles.



I was thinking the same thing myself last night...it would be very odd not to refer to him as King Charles, despite the fact that it seems to have been common knowledge since the 1970s that he would reign as King George VII, George being his last name. Two other thoughts that occurred to me were that King George VI was actually Albert (known as "Bertie"), while Louis Mountbatten was called "Dickie" for some reason. I love George and Louis but am not so keen on Alexander (although had the baby been a girl I would have liked Alexandra)...I likewise think it is a pity that Charles and/or Philip were not included but hopefully there will be more Cambridge babies.

Cheers,
GREENOWL
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on July 25, 2013, 07:32:51 AM
I think that the difference between George VI and Prince Charles is that we have already had two kings named Charles, so it has a British royal pedigree (though not for over 300 years, and the precedent of Charles I is a bit unfortunate). There has never been a King Albert, and the name was only introduced into this country with the Prince Consort. If the young Prince of Cambridge decides he doesn't like his first name, there have been three kings named Alexander in Scotland! I only hope he's not going to be called Georgie by his family.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 25, 2013, 09:53:06 AM
Oh dear, Ann, I started calling him that yesterday! We have the pond between us (and I am on the "left" coast) so I think I'm safe saying his name that way without you hearing.  ;)

On another note, have you all seen the most wonderful commemorative china that The Royal Collection released yesterday in honor of the birth of Prince George? GORGEOUS designs. I am anxiously awaiting my little pillbox with his beautiful name on it. It will join his parents' pillbox commemorating his Mum and Dad's wedding!!!

Click here for a look: http://www.royalcollectionshop.co.uk/royal-baby.html#cat=168%2C169&dir=asc&order=position

=Annie=
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on July 25, 2013, 10:50:53 AM
Wow, that is beautiful china.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Forum Admin on July 30, 2013, 08:50:32 AM
I'm going to caution users that we generally don't permit links to outside sales of items in the Forum as it opens up a slippery slope of commerce.  I will grant an exception here, as opposed to say adverts on ebay, for the general link to commemorative pieces licensed for the event.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on July 30, 2013, 09:12:55 AM
I really do like the name for the Prince! I thought it would be George for a boy for a while...

And that is gorgeous china!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on July 30, 2013, 10:46:14 AM
What to expect at Prince George of Cambridge's Christening

http://www.royalhistorian.com/what-to-expect-at-prince-george-of-cambridges-christening/
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on August 19, 2013, 06:47:31 PM
Pictures of Prince George with his parents were released midnight UK time. Believed to have been taken by Michael Middleton, Kate's father.
http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/cambridges/official-photos-of-prince-george-released-14660 (http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/cambridges/official-photos-of-prince-george-released-14660)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Princess of Cupertino on August 19, 2013, 09:42:54 PM
Does anyone feel the Middleton influence is a bit too strong? from spending Christmas with them instead of the royal family to having the newborn's first months there, I think the Cambridges are breaking a little too much from tradition. After all they're part the symbol of tradition not average Joe who tends to follow the wife's family around after marriage.

Not that they're the Woodvilles. Thank heavens times are different.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Grace on August 20, 2013, 01:42:59 AM
I did wonder if this was the case a while back before I reasoned that the Middletons were probably the first normal complete family unit away from the royal family that William has got to know well - and been welcomed into as a son - in his life and in this world of broken marriages and relationships, I think this is a good thing.  I'm not 100% in love with the Middletons, but they do seem a strong, solid family - a rarity these days.

As long as William and Catherine don't spend a ridiculous amount of time in the company of the in-laws, I don't see a problem and it'll be lovely for their little boy - he has already been robbed of someone who would have been the most doting of grandmothers - Diana.
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on August 20, 2013, 03:47:09 AM
Does anyone feel the Middleton influence is a bit too strong? from spending Christmas with them instead of the royal family to having the newborn's first months there, I think the Cambridges are breaking a little too much from tradition. After all they're part the symbol of tradition not average Joe who tends to follow the wife's family around after marriage.

Not that they're the Woodvilles. Thank heavens times are different.

No,their "influence" isn't too strong,but a good balance..." Influence"  really!..Too far fetched,but then..oh well..
...just because they prefer the peace and tranquility out of the spotlights at their home?Nonsense!

Here's the happy family with George...who,as I saw in a pic today with a laughing QEII saying:
"They should name him George Michael,because he took so long to come out"....Hilarious!

http://www.anpfoto.nl/search.pp?eventid=1630255

courtesy ANP

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: DNAgenie on August 20, 2013, 04:41:12 AM
Quote
Does anyone feel the Middleton influence is a bit too strong? from spending Christmas with them instead of the royal family to having the newborn's first months there, I think the Cambridges are breaking a little too much from tradition. After all they're part the symbol of tradition not average Joe who tends to follow the wife's family around after marriage.
I don't really understand this.  What particular tradition are the Cambridges breaking from?

The only thing I can think of is their not yet moving back into their family apartment at Kensington Palace after the birth, as it is still being renovated. However they are scheduled to live there from September, and that will certainly continue the tradition of a private family home for the latest royal heir. In the meantime where else would they go but back to the maternal grandparents? In the last three generations, the eldest child has been born into a loving and private family, with the mother taking personal care of her child, and in that regard the Cambridges are indeed following tradition.

Princess Elizabeth of York lived with her parents in rented houses in London, the first of which was lent to the family by the Bowes-Lyon family, maternal grandparents.

Prince Charles was born at Buckingham Palace, but was taken home to live in his parents' apartments at Clarence House. His life changed when he was four, when his mother became Queen, but she still made time for him and his sister.

Prince William was born at St Mary's Hospital, and grew up in his parents' homes at Kensington Palace and Highgrove House.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: CHRISinUSA on August 20, 2013, 07:49:33 AM
I quite agree, the couple's choices so far are perfectly natural.  Staying in the country for the first few months is sensible, and their new country home at Sandringham is not yet ready for occupation.  Mrs. Middleton is available to assist the Duchess learning the ropes of motherhood, while William's family has their schedules set months in advance.  The couple has privacy, comfort and the assistance of a close-knit family - what is wrong with that?

I wonder if Catherine was from an aristocratic family and the couple spent the summer at her family's ancestrial seat, would people still think this was unusual?  Don't forget, the Queen Mother even gave birth to Princess Margaret at Glamis Castle.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on August 20, 2013, 02:40:42 PM
I can't see anything wrong with Will, Kate and George staying at Kate's parent's house.

I don't think the Kensington Palace apartments are ready either?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on August 21, 2013, 03:44:37 PM
I quite agree, the couple's choices so far are perfectly natural.  Staying in the country for the first few months is sensible, and their new country home at Sandringham is not yet ready for occupation.  Mrs. Middleton is available to assist the Duchess learning the ropes of motherhood, while William's family has their schedules set months in advance.  The couple has privacy, comfort and the assistance of a close-knit family - what is wrong with that?

I wonder if Catherine was from an aristocratic family and the couple spent the summer at her family's ancestrial seat, would people still think this was unusual?  Don't forget, the Queen Mother even gave birth to Princess Margaret at Glamis Castle.

Well said, Chris.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on September 10, 2013, 09:30:53 PM
My review of Royal Babies: A History 1066-2013 by Amy Licence, published at the time of Prince George's birth

http://www.royalhistorian.com/royal-babies-a-history-1066-2013-by-amy-licence-review/
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on September 12, 2013, 10:36:06 AM
It's been reported that Prince William has left the RAF and armed services altogether. His last RAF shift was on Tuesday. The prince will be taking what's being called a "transitional year" prior to picking up his royal duties representing the Queen at home and abroad. Apparently, during this transitional year, he and Kate will continue to perform limited royal duties. The family will be moving into Apt. 1A within the next week or so.

I bet the foot traffic near and around KP will increase considerably...at least in the short term. I wonder if they'll hear crowd/street noise from their back garden? I would think so.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on September 15, 2013, 06:53:49 AM
So basically they are increasing their workload after a year or so?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on September 15, 2013, 09:19:39 AM
Shouldn't be too difficult for them........
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Duchess Room 311 on September 21, 2013, 11:23:09 AM
I was told by the forum administrator that this link is better suited here.  So for those who are interested, this link will take you to a chart detailing how the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are related via the Fairfax line. 

http://www.americanancestors.org/uploadedFiles/American_Ancestors/Content/Blogs/The_Ancestry_of_Catherine_Middleton/WilliamChart.pdf
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on September 21, 2013, 05:31:10 PM
Thanks for posting this link.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on September 21, 2013, 05:57:11 PM
Thanks for the link!

Title: Baptism of Prince George: TRH the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on September 27, 2013, 10:35:10 AM
TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge announced the dat for the baptism of Prince Georg.
That will take place at St.James Palace on october 23rd by the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on September 27, 2013, 12:57:03 PM
The Chapel Royal in St. James's Palace from King Henry VIII to Prince George of Cambridge

http://www.royalhistorian.com/the-chapel-royal-at-st-jamess-palace-from-king-henry-viii-to-prince-george-of-cambridge/
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on September 28, 2013, 03:35:34 AM
Interesting that they've chosen the Chapel Royal. The usual venue in recent generations has ben the Music Room in Buckingham Palace.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on September 30, 2013, 11:07:14 AM
And, it's also the location where his mother was placed prior to her funeral service at the Abbey.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Suzanne on September 30, 2013, 03:36:09 PM
Here's my review of Katie Nicholl's new bio of the Duchess of Cambridge - Kate: The Future Queen

http://www.royalhistorian.com/kate-the-future-queen-by-katie-nicholl-review/
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on October 11, 2013, 06:20:54 AM
There is talk of The Duchess opening the first Scottish Branch of The Art Room, of which she is the Patron of, in Edinburgh early next year.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/kate-middleton-to-open-edinburgh-arts-charity-1-3132928 (http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/kate-middleton-to-open-edinburgh-arts-charity-1-3132928)

And also as tweeted by Clarence House:
Quote
The Duchess of Cambridge will attend @100_WHF Gala Dinner in aid of @ActionAddiction at Kensington Palace on 24th October
@100_WHF is 100WomeninHedgeFunds.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on October 23, 2013, 10:08:42 AM
Aaww sweet little chubby chops.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24642388 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24642388)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on October 23, 2013, 02:22:01 PM
So wonderful to see the Cambridge family today especially wee little Prince George. It was fantastic getting a good look at him since we haven't really seen him at all. Is it just me in thinking he resembles Kate just a tad bit more than William? He's definitely a blend of them both, and I really like what looks to be a cowlick. Goodness he's precious!   
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: OctoberLily on October 23, 2013, 04:01:24 PM
I thought he looked a bit more like Kate, also.  But I'm like you RoyalWatcher, he's a happy blend of them of them both.  A truly beautiful baby!  I loved the way he seemed to study his Great Grandmama!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on October 23, 2013, 11:16:25 PM
He was a cute little chubster--those cheeks! I loved how William was bouncing George's arm up and down--a gesture most parents can recognize. LOL George looked adorably grumpy and kind of over it but did his first royal duty like a trouper. :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on October 24, 2013, 10:21:13 AM
He was a cute little chubster--those cheeks! I loved how William was bouncing George's arm up and down--a gesture most parents can recognize. LOL George looked adorably grumpy and kind of over it but did his first royal duty like a trouper. :)
My first thought  when I saw William bouncing the little one was "Careful, William, that cutie-pie is going spit up all over that beautiful christening gown."  Luckily that didn't happen.   What a beautiful child - what a gorgeous little family - William, Kate and little George.
Title: Baptism of Prince George of Cambridge,pics! Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on October 25, 2013, 12:18:45 AM
He was a cute little chubster--those cheeks! I loved how William was bouncing George's arm up and down--a gesture most parents can recognize. LOL George looked adorably grumpy and kind of over it but did his first royal duty like a trouper. :)

http://www.dukeandduchessofcambridge.org/life-in-pictures

http://content.nos.nl/data/image/xxl/2013/10/25/566706.jpg



Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on October 25, 2013, 10:52:20 AM
What a treat! My favorite ones are those of wee Prince George with his arms extended and the family portrait where the Queen is the only one looking at him. I’m glad they took the “required” photo of the current monarch and the three heirs to the throne. It’s only been 100+ years since that has happened. Lovely!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kassafrass on October 25, 2013, 12:31:30 PM
Is it up to the parents whether or not they will have the baby baptized or is that one of the "rules"?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on October 25, 2013, 04:30:18 PM
Is it up to the parents whether or not they will have the baby baptized or is that one of the "rules"?

Parts of the Act of Settlement of 1701 (in the reign of William III, an original Calvinist!) still in force say:

.... And that the said Crown and Government shall from time to time descend to and be enjoyed by such Person or Persons being Protestants as should have inherited and enjoyed the same in case the said Person or Persons so reconciled holding Communion professing or marrying as aforesaid were naturally dead After the making of which Statute and the Settlement therein contained Your Majesties good Subjects who were restored to the full and free Possession and Enjoyment of their Religion Rights and Liberties by the Providence of God giving Success to Your Majesties just Undertakings and unwearied Endeavours for that Purpose had no greater temporall Felicity to hope or wish for then to see a Royall Progeny descending from Your Majesty to whom (under God) they owe their Tranquility and whose Ancestors have for many Years been principall Assertors of the reformed Religion and the Liberties of Europe and from our said most gracious Sovereign Lady whose Memory will always be precious to the Subjects of these Realms And it having since pleased Almighty God to take away our said Sovereign Lady and also the most hopefull Prince William Duke of Gloucester (the only surviving Issue of Her Royall Highness the Princess Ann of Denmark) to the unspeakable Grief and Sorrow of Your Majesty and Your said good Subjects who under such Losses being sensibly put in mind that it standeth wholly in the Pleasure of Almighty God to prolong the Lives of Your Majesty and of Her Royall Highness and to grant to Your Majesty or to Her Royall Highness such Issue as may be inheritable to the Crown and Regall Government aforesaid by the respective Limitations in the said recited Act contained doe constantly implore the Divine Mercy for those Blessings And Your Majesties said Subjects having Daily Experience of Your Royall Care and Concern for the present and future Wellfare of these Kingdoms and particularly recommending from Your Throne a further Provision to be made for the Succession of the Crown in the Protestant Line for the Happiness of the Nation and the Security of our Religion And it being absolutely necessary for the Safety Peace and Quiet of this Realm to obviate all Doubts and Contentions in the same by reason of any pretended Titles to the Crown and to maintain a Certainty in the Succession thereof to which Your Subjects may safely have Recourse for their Protection in case the Limitations in the said recited Act should determine Therefore for a further Provision of the Succession of the Crown in the Protestant Line We Your Majesties most dutifull and Loyall Subjects the Lords Spirituall and Temporall and Commons in this present Parliament assembled do beseech Your Majesty that it may be enacted and declared and be it enacted and declared by the Kings most Excellent Majesty by and with the Advice and Consent of the Lords Spirituall and Temporall and Comons in this present Parliament assembled and by the Authority of the same That the most Excellent Princess Sophia Electress and Dutchess Dowager of Hannover Daughter of the most Excellent Princess Elizabeth late Queen of Bohemia Daughter of our late Sovereign Lord King James the First of happy Memory be and is hereby declared to be the next in Succession in the Protestant Line to the Imperiall Crown and Dignity of the said Realms of England France and Ireland with the Dominions and Territories thereunto belonging after His Majesty and the Princess Ann of Denmark and in Default of Issue of the said Princess Ann and of His Majesty respectively and that from and after the Deceases of His said Majesty our now Sovereign Lord and of Her Royall Highness the Princess Ann of Denmark and for Default of Issue of the said Princess Ann and of His Majesty respectively the Crown and Regall Government of the said Kingdoms of England France and Ireland and of the Dominions thereunto belonging with the Royall State and Dignity of the said Realms and all Honours Stiles Titles Regalities Prerogatives Powers Jurisdictions and Authorities to the same belonging and appertaining shall be remain and continue to the said most Excellent Princess Sophia and the Heirs of Her Body being Protestants And thereunto the said Lords Spirituall and Temporall and Commons shall and will in the Name of all the People of this Realm most humbly and faithfully submitt themselves their Heirs and Posterities and do faithfully promise That after the Deceases of His Majesty and Her Royall Highness and the failure of the Heirs of their respective Bodies to stand to maintain and defend the said Princess Sophia and the Heirs of Her Body being Protestants according to the Limitation and Succession of the Crown in this Act specified and contained to the utmost of their Powers with their Lives and Estates against all Persons whatsoever that shall attempt any thing to the contrary.

And whereas it is requisite and necessary that some further Provision be made for securing our Religion Laws and Liberties from and after the Death of His Majesty and the Princess Ann of Denmark and in default of Issue of the Body of the said Princess and of His Majesty respectively Be it enacted by the Kings most Excellent Majesty by and with the Advice and Consent of the Lords Spirituall and Temporall and Commons in Parliament assembled and by the Authority of the same
That whosoever shall hereafter come to the Possession of this Crown shall joyn in Communion with the Church of England as by Law established.


So with regard to baptizing royal infant heirs, Protestant Anabaptists, e.g. Amish and Baptists, will not make it to the throne. :-)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on October 25, 2013, 04:50:59 PM
The Christening pics are lovely! Especially the one of Kate and Will with baby George.


So wonderful to see the Cambridge family today especially wee little Prince George. It was fantastic getting a good look at him since we haven't really seen him at all. Is it just me in thinking he resembles Kate just a tad bit more than William? He's definitely a blend of them both, and I really like what looks to be a cowlick. Goodness he's precious!   

To me, he is a lot like William, apart from the eyes...they look like Kate's.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on October 26, 2013, 02:17:45 AM
The Church of England takes a fairly liberal view of 'being in communion with them'. So Prince George could be baptised in a different denomination (though not Catholic) without affecting his place in the succession.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kassafrass on October 26, 2013, 02:57:40 AM
So if he happened to be Catholic, he would no longer be in the line of succession?

I guess it just seems so bizarre to me that even with there being freedom of religion, the royals still must conform to these rules in order to ascend to the throne. But royalty is based on nothing if not tradition :D
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: DNAgenie on October 26, 2013, 03:55:37 AM

Kassy wrote
Quote
So if he happened to be Catholic, he would no longer be in the line of succession?
Britain’s newly enacted Succession Law repeals the provision of the Act of Settlement which barred anyone from succeeding who is married to a Roman Catholic. However, it does not grant succession rights to people who are Roman Catholic themselves.

So, yes.  If he was Catholic, he would be no longer in the line of succession.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: grandduchessella on October 26, 2013, 02:04:29 PM
Wouldn't George, as future Defender of the Faith, have to be baptized Anglican though? I could see other children belonging to a different denomination but not the future monarch.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on October 27, 2013, 04:38:00 AM
Defender of the Faith is actually Defender of the Catholic Faith! It was bestowed on Henry VIII by the Pope of the day for his Treatise on the Seven Sacraments.

Strictly speaking, George does not need to be baptised at all. It's only necessary  that he is never a Catholic and professes the Anglican faith at the time of his accession.

But it makes perfect sense to have him baptised as an Anglican.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on October 28, 2013, 02:01:26 PM
They saved the best for last...new christening photo!!! And, it's a beauty!

http://www.newmyroyals.com/2013/10/new-christening-photo-of-prince-george.html
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kassafrass on October 28, 2013, 09:40:45 PM
Tears! There are tears in my eyes!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on October 29, 2013, 03:20:06 PM
They saved the best for last...new christening photo!!! And, it's a beauty!

http://www.newmyroyals.com/2013/10/new-christening-photo-of-prince-george.html
It's precious, isn't it?   I would love to see some of the personal family photos they've taken of the little prince.   Maybe someday.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on October 30, 2013, 04:50:46 PM
It was a magical moment caught in a happy snap. I think in time we will see some of those photos too. However, the photos I would very much like to see would be those of the newly refurbished and decorated Apartment 1A! I was really hoping that wee baby George's christening party would have taken place at their new digs instead of at Clearance House. I just have to be patient and keep calm and carry on.
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Post by: Jen_94 on November 22, 2013, 11:15:28 AM
Have to agree, what a lovely photo!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: mcdnab on November 28, 2013, 10:34:35 AM
Defender of Faith was granted to Henry VIII by the Papacy for his affirmation of the faith against the teachings of Luther in the early 1520s
It was of course defunct when he was excommunicated after he split from Rome.
The current title is the one granted to the crown in perpetuity by the English Parliament in the 1540s and of course now refers to them as defender of the reformed religion - it is not usually used outside the British Isles (Although I think Canada have retained it within the Canadian royal styles).

A future King or Queen does not just have to be "in communion" with the Church of England they also have by law to swear to preserve and protect the protestant reformed religion on their accession (this oath now only applies to the United Kingdom) the Oath is not always included in the Coronation service (but must happen and usually takes place at the first accession council)

In terms of religion - the main aim of the Act of Settlement was to avoid having a monarch who was spiritually answerable to a higher power on earth (ie the Papacy). It was not just framed through religious prejudice and distrust but tries to answer some problems that even now would affect a Roman Catholic who succeeded to the British throne if they were permitted by law to do so.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 03, 2013, 05:15:32 PM
*******TIARA ALERT*******

Accompanied by her husband, the Duke of Cambridge, the Duchess of Cambridge attended the Diplomatic Reception at Buckingham Palace wearing The Papyrus Tiara (it's been referred to as other names) ! ! ! This is the first time since her wedding that the duchess has worn a tiara in public. And what is super fantastic is that, for me in any event, is that this tiara was in the possession of Princess Margaret and has not been seen since her death, which means that her either Margaret or her children willed it back to HM. Being a royal jewel fanatic, this is wonderful news! Hopefully, we will see lots of pictures of the duchess from tonight's reception! Fingers crossed.  :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kassafrass on December 05, 2013, 11:18:39 PM
Ah yes I saw something about that on Facebook from Cosmopolitan. The next day they posted an article about the fact that the Duchess came out in a ponytail. They had it titled as BREAKING NEWS. I love Catherine as much as the next royal watcher but that was just ridiculous.

Anyway, I was excited to see her out with a tiara, especially since I recognized it (even though I couldn't put a name to it) I'm hoping she wears some more. She wears them well.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kassafrass on January 08, 2014, 07:39:39 AM
Mild arguments with my family lately have led me to post on this thread and ask a question: Will Catherine indeed be Queen of the UK?

I reasoned yes - she will be the queen consort. And my family insists that it's a no because she is not royal and she has the title of Duchess of Cambridge instead of princess. My mother and aunt were adults (I was a small child) and were great admirers of Diana during her prime. If Diana received the title Princess of Wales, why would Kate not also be called the princess?

They also wondered why she would get to be the queen consort when Philip is only known as a prince. My speculation was that he was known simply as the prince consort because Elizabeth is a queen regent and perhaps she doesn't want someone with the title king. But again, this was all my own speculation and I have no idea if I'm right on that or not.

I've done some research - trying to find out whether or not she would indeed succeed to be queen consort, but there were mixed opinions everywhere. So I decided there was no better place than the AP forum to ask this question.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on January 08, 2014, 10:02:48 AM
They don't think she will be queen? Tell them that a serf's daughter (William's 8 x great grandmother) became reigning Empress of Russia (Catherine I) back when "blue blood" still meant a lot.

My speculation was that he was known simply as the prince consort because Elizabeth is a queen regent

QEII is a queen regnant (a queen who reigns herself, as opposed to a queen consort, which is what Catherine will be). (A regent is someone, male or female, who reigns on behalf of someone else, for example a dowager queen on behalf of her underage son or daughter. When that child is declared of age and ascends the throne, she will become queen mother, also if she is the mother of the king, because she is a queen (consort) who is the mother of the monarch.)

A country can thus have several queens at the same time (the UK had 3 after QEII's accession), but only one king.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on January 08, 2014, 10:54:33 AM
And my family insists that it's a no because she is not royal and she has the title of Duchess of Cambridge instead of princess.

Her official style is now HRH, so she is royal, although not born royal.
British royal spouses are not created princesses, like royal spouses on the Continent are nowadays. They are thus only reffered to as princesses if they are married to the Prince of Wales (courtesy title as "princess consort") or are princesses in their own right (like the late Princess Marina). Otherwise they are referred to by a courtesy title from their husband's dukedom (like Catherine) or, if he doesn't have a dukedom, by a courtesy style based on their husband's princiary title (Princess Michael (of Kent)).

The last style was in common usage in all Europe in the 19th century, also for born princesses, and that's why you will see QV's daughter referred to as "the Princess Henry (of Battenberg") or her granddaughter Victoria Melita as "the Grand Duchess Cyril of Russia", just as any ordinary married Jane née Miss (Jane) Jones would be referred to as Mrs. Smith. or, if her husband had a high-ranking official position, (especially on the Continent) Mrs. General Smythe / Madame la générale Lefèbvre / Frau Generalin Schmiedth / мадам генеральша Kузнецовa.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on January 08, 2014, 11:42:41 AM
just as any ordinary married Jane née Miss (Jane) Jones

Of course Miss Jones if she was the eldest daughter, otherwise Miss Jane (Jones).
But is it the senior (eldest) spouse in the family, regardless of the line's seniority, who is the Mrs. Astor and not just Mrs. William Astor - or is it the spouse of the head of the family, of the senior line, who can claim that style? :-) A bitter war was fought over that, every bit as lethal as the battles over precedence in European courts.

Yours truly,
Ward McAllister :-)

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: rosieposie on January 09, 2014, 06:23:21 AM
Mild arguments with my family lately have led me to post on this thread and ask a question: Will Catherine indeed be Queen of the UK?

I reasoned yes - she will be the queen consort. And my family insists that it's a no because she is not royal and she has the title of Duchess of Cambridge instead of princess. My mother and aunt were adults (I was a small child) and were great admirers of Diana during her prime. If Diana received the title Princess of Wales, why would Kate not also be called the princess?

They also wondered why she would get to be the queen consort when Philip is only known as a prince. My speculation was that he was known simply as the prince consort because Elizabeth is a queen regent and perhaps she doesn't want someone with the title king. But again, this was all my own speculation and I have no idea if I'm right on that or not.

I've done some research - trying to find out whether or not she would indeed succeed to be queen consort, but there were mixed opinions everywhere. So I decided there was no better place than the AP forum to ask this question.

Elizabeth Lyon-Bowles was also a commoner and she was the king's consort so you,  won the argument :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on January 09, 2014, 09:52:55 AM
Elizabeth Lyon-Bowles was also a commoner and she was the king's consort so you,  won the argument :)

Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon and Lady Diana Spencer had exactly the same background: Daughters of earls. So Lady Diana merely followed precedent, while Miss Middleton is something new.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on January 09, 2014, 10:34:30 AM
Hi,

Yes, the future Queen Catherine is 32 today!!!

Happy Birthday to the present Duchess of Cambridge......

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lindelle on March 31, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
Are there any pics of the interior of their new home at KP?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lindelle on March 31, 2014, 11:46:27 PM
I also found an interior pic of Amner Hall but it looks pretty cluttered and not sure if I'm allowed to post it. If anyone's interested, just search Interior Pictures Of Anmer Hall.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on April 07, 2014, 10:27:30 AM
He is a cutey.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2598337/Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-begin-New-Zealand-Australia-tour-Prince-George.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2598337/Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-begin-New-Zealand-Australia-tour-Prince-George.html)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 07, 2014, 04:05:03 PM
Wee Prince George is so very precious. Oh my goodness!!! So excited to see more of him. He looks like a complete mix of both Wills and Kate. Oh, and his parents looked great too!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on April 07, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
He is a cutey.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2598337/Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-begin-New-Zealand-Australia-tour-Prince-George.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2598337/Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-begin-New-Zealand-Australia-tour-Prince-George.html)

So strange that the British always dress their children so sparingly, with bare legs when the parents are much more warmly dressed. If he were a Scandinavian (or Russian?) prince he'd have a nice warm woollen sleeper on.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: DNAgenie on April 07, 2014, 06:38:09 PM
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So strange that the British always dress their children so sparingly, with bare legs when the parents are much more warmly dressed. If he were a Scandinavian (or Russian?) prince he'd have a nice warm woollen sleeper on.
Well it was about 22degC when they left Sydney and presumably George was dressed accordingly. Then when they arrived in Windy Wellington the temperature was down to 14deg or below. They probably won't make that mistake again. Even Scandinavian or Russian princes need to dress for the climate.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on April 08, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
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So strange that the British always dress their children so sparingly, with bare legs when the parents are much more warmly dressed. If he were a Scandinavian (or Russian?) prince he'd have a nice warm woollen sleeper on.
Well it was about 22degC when they left Sydney and presumably George was dressed accordingly. Then when they arrived in Windy Wellington the temperature was down to 14deg or below.
Surely they knew that. Their staff no doubt checked.

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They probably won't make that mistake again.
They will, if they are English! I remember holidaying on the Northumbrian coast as a child and we Norwegians, adults and children, wore long trousers and jackets because it was windy and chilly, but the English parents, themselves well and good dressed, let their children run around in thin shirts and shorts! My mother and aunt, who worked in the UK at a Butlin's holiday camp and as an au-pair also remarked on this. And 19th century accounts of English nannies in Russia etc. also seem to describe this, the horror of nannies who ordered open windows, fresh air, cold baths and only thin flannel clothes. Even though we Scandinavians and Russians like to be outside in the cold, skiing, ice bathing etc. we always dress very warm and snug and prefer woollen undergarments, even in summer if necessary!

Indeed there is the Norwegian saying: Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær. = There is no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes.

This is just as puzzling to Scandinavians as the non-existant insulation of a traditional English cottage is, with draughts coming in from everywhere, especially from underneath those badly proportioned doors.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 08, 2014, 03:30:51 PM
I suppose the British raise their young to be strong against the elements. Makes sense to me. What I may consider to be cold may not be the same for another who lives in a cooler climate. 14c is not cold even with gusts....from this royal watcher's humble perspective.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on April 09, 2014, 12:48:38 AM
Yes, stiff upper lip and all that. Anyway, glad you visited the Northumbriam coast, it is stunning whatever the weather.
A busy day for George:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2600284/Young-prince-meets-New-Zealand-babies-families-official-public-engagement.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2600284/Young-prince-meets-New-Zealand-babies-families-official-public-engagement.html)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lindelle on April 09, 2014, 05:02:09 AM
Actually, the temperature in New Zealand and in Australia is really quite nice. You must remember - we have a very different humidity factor -  compared to England so on the day they arrived it was raining yes, but warm in temp. Today in Australia we had a 20 deg c temp but it was so warm and we (like New Zealand) are only just starting Autumn.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what season did W & K get married in. Autumn wasn't it? And it seemed quite warm if not just ok then.

Honestly, don't worry about little George's leg's getting cold - it's not winter yet, just a charming time of year.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on April 09, 2014, 06:40:39 AM
Hi Lindelle,

William and Kate got married in April 2011;  so it would be spring in the Northern Hemisphere and autumn in the Southern...

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on April 09, 2014, 01:26:21 PM
April 2011 was a warm month, though their wedding day was cooler - fortunately for those in heavy uniforms!

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lindelle on April 09, 2014, 04:44:42 PM
Hi Lindelle,

William and Kate got married in April 2011;  so it would be spring in the Northern Hemisphere and autumn in the Southern...

Larry

Thanks Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 09, 2014, 05:36:04 PM
It is total cuteness overload (TCO) watching little Prince George. I am fascinated and thankful for all the coverage. I'm wondering...did he inherit his green'ish eyes like his mum? From the photos, it's hard to discern the color of his eyes. Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lindelle on April 09, 2014, 07:36:07 PM
Not sure RoyalWatcher but I do think he looks a lot like Katherine's father and has Williams nose when he was little.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Forum Admin on April 11, 2014, 01:06:56 PM
I don't normally post much in these threads, but a good friend in New Zealand sent us this photo.  He was part of the delegation in Aukland meeting the Royal couple.  This just makes me smile.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/10246340_10202829390687336_3049201864462289749_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on April 11, 2014, 02:44:16 PM
Hahahahaha yes and its put a smile on her face too.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on April 11, 2014, 02:47:50 PM
There was a time when one had to go out to the colonies to see naked, tattooed people. Today you don't need to travel further than Essex, I suppose.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on April 11, 2014, 11:07:47 PM
Hi,

Ouch!!!  That must have hurt....

Is this his best side??

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Forum Admin on April 12, 2014, 09:04:37 AM
There was a time when one had to go out to the colonies to see naked, tattooed people. Today you don't need to travel further than Essex, I suppose.
  That photo was taken in Aukland New Zealand actually.  Their RHs were on an official visit this week.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on April 12, 2014, 09:14:04 AM
There was a time when one had to go out to the colonies to see naked, tattooed people. Today you don't need to travel further than Essex, I suppose.
 That photo was taken in Aukland New Zealand actually.  Their RHs were on an official visit this week.


Да, я знаю:
Новозеландский тур Их Королевских Высочест герцога и герцогини Кембриджских (http://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/tag/%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%86%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8F%20%D0%9A%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B6%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F)

Perhaps I should have said "Bishop Auckland, County Durham" instead of the more stereotypical Essex.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on April 12, 2014, 09:58:15 AM
And LOL, many of the Russian commentators here: Первый день герцога и герцогини Кембриджских в Новой Зеландии  (http://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/2021901.html)  share my sentiments of worry about the baby prince's bare feet and light clothing when all the adults in the pictures (excluding the hardy Māori) are so warmly dressed!

E.g.
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мама в пальто, ребенок в бодике?
=
Mama is in a coat, the child is in a bodice / body?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Forum Admin on April 12, 2014, 10:02:04 AM
There was a time when one had to go out to the colonies to see naked, tattooed people. Today you don't need to travel further than Essex, I suppose.
 That photo was taken in Aukland New Zealand actually.  Their RHs were on an official visit this week.


Да, я знаю:
Новозеландский тур Их Королевских Высочест герцога и герцогини Кембриджских (http://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/tag/%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%86%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8F%20%D0%9A%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B6%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F)

Perhaps I should have said "Bishop Auckland, County Durham" instead of the more stereotypical Essex.

Which STILL has nothing to do with the country of New Zealand....
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on April 12, 2014, 10:10:05 AM
Most of New Zealand culture relates (in)directly to Britain, including the visit of this family. That is, things that are not strictly Māori. In Māori Auckland is called Tāmaki Makaurau, which I agree has no counterpart in County Durham, which BTW is the ancestral county of the Duchess's coal miner forebears.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 15, 2014, 08:50:52 PM
The Cambridges' have left New Zealand bound for Australia. In the photos of their last day of engagements, they are looking tired in a few of them. Prince William especially. It must be absolutely brutal with the extreme time change, being "on" so much of the time, prepping for the next day, meetings, the baby, etc. They're doing so well and they come off as genuinely loving towards others and themselves. They are so good for each other. I don't know why I take such pleasure in these two, but I do! I think they are fabulous! :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 20, 2014, 11:19:44 AM
It is total cuteness overload (TCO) watching little Prince George. I am fascinated and thankful for all the coverage. I'm wondering...did he inherit his green'ish eyes like his mum? From the photos, it's hard to discern the color of his eyes. Does anyone know?

Prince George has brown eyes.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on April 21, 2014, 07:42:28 AM
George has Kate's eyes, Hazel :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on April 24, 2014, 04:12:18 PM
Отпусти меня и позвольте мне поприветствовать мой народ! > Release me and let me greet my people! (http://37.media.tumblr.com/ec5be6a3613d6c020743e93769713d88/tumblr_n44gqykV4N1swv4gbo2_250.gif)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Clemence on May 09, 2014, 01:25:03 PM
What I'd like to know is if there was another royal baby following parents in royal visits abroad. I always thought it would be somehow at risk for all members of a family to travel together.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 07, 2014, 11:48:25 AM
Does anyone know why Prince William wasn't in uniform yesterday while attending a tea for WWII veterans? His father was in uniform. Just trying to understand the intricacies of royal wardrobe.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Greenowl on June 08, 2014, 11:53:54 AM
What I'd like to know is if there was another royal baby following parents in royal visits abroad. I always thought it would be somehow at risk for all members of a family to travel together.

Prince William himself accompanied his parents on state visits from a very young age.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on July 22, 2014, 01:50:37 PM
Hi,

Prince George of Cambridge is one year old today - - Happy Birthday!!

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on July 22, 2014, 06:21:45 PM
Prince George is a cutie, but am I the only one who has never seen a photo of him smiling?   Even when he's around baby animals he doesn't seem to be as animated or bubbly as most babies would be - always has a stern countenance.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on July 23, 2014, 09:06:54 AM
Hi Maria,

I'm not so sure I'd be smiling either if 50 or more photographers were popping flash bulbs in my face.
The poor kid may just be overwhelmed and confused.

I agree though that it would be great to see him smiling!

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on September 08, 2014, 04:32:28 AM
Clarence House has just confirmed that baby number 2 is on the way. Once again the poor lass is said to be suffering with severe morning sickness.
The announcement has been brought forward due to the morning sickness and Catherine having to cancel appointments.....
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on September 08, 2014, 05:52:57 AM
Prince George is only 13 months old, so there will be less than two years between them.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Vecchiolarry on September 08, 2014, 09:12:15 AM
Hi,

Great news about another child for the Cambridges.

Now of course, all the speculation will begin about the gender and name(s) for the baby;  so let me be the first to predict:
A girl named Charlotte.

I would be satisfied also with Eleanor or Philippa - let's get some new names in the Royal Family;  although these are older ones used in past centuries - but let's revitalize them!!

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on September 08, 2014, 09:19:23 AM
If Scotland stays in the union I think they should celebrate by naming a girl Bonnie Flora Alba Elspeth Morag :-)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Forum Admin on September 08, 2014, 09:43:25 AM
Clarence House has just confirmed that baby number 2 is on the way. Once again the poor lass is said to be suffering with severe morning sickness.
The announcement has been brought forward due to the morning sickness and Catherine having to cancel appointments.....

An Heir and a Spare.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on September 08, 2014, 11:27:19 AM
So delighted after hearing this news! I do believe another prince is on the way. The name Robert sure sounds grand and means "bright flame."
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on September 08, 2014, 03:24:53 PM
Boy  Stephen  Arthur Ian 
Laura Elizabeth Louise Alexandra
Christening   Chapel Royal St James  Palace
or  Westminster Abbey (where  the  parents were  married)
Earl of  Carnarvon  of Earl of  Wessex    Duke of Westminster    Godparents
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on September 08, 2014, 03:45:58 PM
Good grief, the poor wench is only about 6-8 weeks gone ...... :-)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on September 08, 2014, 04:08:47 PM
im excited lol
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on September 08, 2014, 05:20:17 PM
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Philippa - let's get some new names in the Royal Family

They could name her that after her aunt.  Philippa is Pippa Middleton's real name.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on September 08, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
love it   ... also Arthur if a boy
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on September 08, 2014, 09:27:05 PM
Do any of you know how close  the baby   and  Prince  George  are to  Nicholas II  Like cousin wise
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: DNAgenie on September 08, 2014, 10:35:10 PM
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Do any of you know how close  the baby   and  Prince  George  are to  Nicholas II  Like cousin wise

They are cousins in multiple ways, via the British and Danish and 3 different German royal families:
1st cousin 4 times removed
2nd cousin 4 times removed
4th cousin 5 times removed
5th cousin 5 times removed
plus other more distant relationships.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on September 08, 2014, 11:15:15 PM
thanks
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Post by: Kalafrana on September 09, 2014, 03:55:25 AM
Not Stephen. The one royal Stephen had an utterly disastrous reign, and there literally hasn't been one in any British royal family since.

Ann

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Post by: Marie Valerie on September 09, 2014, 08:58:20 AM
For a Girl: Helen or Mary (as second or third name: Diana)

For another Boy: Frederick or Edward

I like old names...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on September 09, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
I Like the old names  too   I Still like Stephen  lol     its my name    Also  Peter    Alexander   Hugh    Robert or Reginald or Alfred    Frederick
for a girl    Louise  Alezandra  Mary Grace
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on September 10, 2014, 10:51:08 AM
How about Olga, Tatiana, Maria, or Anastasia!
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Post by: Превед on September 10, 2014, 12:24:40 PM
How about Olga, Tatiana, Maria, or Anastasia!

It is surprising how few no famous British or even Anglophone Olgas there are.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on September 11, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
How about  Laura  Grace  Frances Caroline
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on September 12, 2014, 05:23:55 PM
for a boy 
Philip Michael  Francis  Charles
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Post by: Kalafrana on September 13, 2014, 12:06:02 AM
According to the press, Elizabeth is the most likely choice for a girl. Quite right too!!!

Philp would be a good choice too, especially as the Duke of Edinburgh is getting frail and not appearing much in public (he is 92 now).

Ann
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Post by: Greenowl on September 14, 2014, 04:43:03 AM
According to the press, Elizabeth is the most likely choice for a girl. Quite right too!!!

Philp would be a good choice too, especially as the Duke of Edinburgh is getting frail and not appearing much in public (he is 92 now).

Ann

I agree, especially about Elizabeth and would like to see either Philip or Charles for another boy (I am very traditional)!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: DNAgenie on September 14, 2014, 04:24:54 PM
You are a stodgy lot [g]! I would prefer something non-traditional this time, or at least old-fashioned non-royal.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: DNAgenie on September 14, 2014, 04:58:24 PM
William and Kate will live in their new country home at Anmer Hall, Norfolk, when William takes up his duties as a helicopter pilot with the local air ambulance.  Details at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2714405/After-4-5m-refit-make-Kensington-Palace-fit-prince-William-Kate-head-live-Norfolk.html
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Post by: Превед on September 30, 2014, 01:31:09 PM
Strange watching the last episode of "Downton Abbey" and wondering if the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge named their son George after the heir to Downton Abbey!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on November 06, 2014, 10:42:37 AM
I am sure I heard George was in honour of George VI?

In other news, looks like William and Kate are attending the royal variety show!
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 15, 2014, 03:05:51 PM
An absolutely ADORABLE photo set released by Kensington Palace of Prince George. That little lad looks so fun and cheeky. No wonder Kate stays so slim...she's running all over the palace chasing after that little rascal! Takes after is papa at that age. :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-george/11292291/Prince-George-given-classic-look-in-his-official-Christmas-2014-photographs.html
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 15, 2014, 03:14:33 PM
From the photos, George clearly has his mother's hairline (maybe he will buck the male baldness trend as Mr. Middleton has a full head of hair), eyebrows, eyes, cheeks and mouth. He definitely has his father's nose. It will be so much fun to watch him grow. What a cutie!
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Post by: Превед on December 16, 2014, 03:49:38 PM
An absolutely ADORABLE photo set released by Kensington Palace of Prince George. That little lad looks so fun and cheeky. No wonder Kate stays so slim...she's running all over the palace chasing after that little rascal! Takes after is papa at that age. :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-george/11292291/Prince-George-given-classic-look-in-his-official-Christmas-2014-photographs.html

An icon of Britishness: Shorts and bare blue-hued knees for a toughening, chilly Christmas!

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on February 02, 2015, 07:10:31 PM
any new photos of Prince George
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on February 09, 2015, 01:26:05 PM
Is anyone else surprised by the fact that HM seems to not have bestowed the family order to Kate? I thought for sure she would have received it after the birth of Prince George. Perhaps she does have it, but hasn't had an opportunity to wear it?
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Post by: grandduchessella on February 10, 2015, 11:43:43 AM
It may still be early. Camilla received it in 2007; Sophie in 2004 (after several years of marriage and Louise's birth).
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kassafrass on March 28, 2015, 06:26:56 PM
We're certainly fast approaching Catherine's due date (although I'm sure it wasn't fast for her with that terrible sickness..)

I wonder if there will be as much of a hype over this birth as there was for George. I remember there was a live stream outside of the hospital waiting for them to come out and show off the baby. Can we expect that again now that we already have an heir and this baby is "the spare"?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on March 29, 2015, 11:47:08 AM
The British press wouldn't have it any other way I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on March 30, 2015, 12:02:11 PM
Yeah, I can see them lining up, just waiting for the big moment...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 02, 2015, 01:03:23 PM
The British press wouldn't have it any other way I'm afraid.

I must correct my previous post. It's not just the British press; it's the international press as well. The world press loves following the Royal Family.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kassafrass on April 02, 2015, 01:14:34 PM
'Tis true and I am one of those who are eagerly awaiting to hear of the birth. But there's a line that is crossed far too often, methinks...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on May 02, 2015, 01:57:32 AM
Stop Press: Woman goes into labour :-)
Duchess of Cambridge admitted to the Lindo Wing this morning in the early stages of labour.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32562117 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32562117)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on May 02, 2015, 06:44:31 AM
Awwwwww....it's a girl, 8 lbs 3 oz born just after 08 30 today. How lovely.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on May 02, 2015, 12:02:13 PM
Yay, the baby is here.

George has a little sister.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on May 02, 2015, 04:56:14 PM
Hm, born on the 2nd of May. If she were to be named after the day's saints she would be:
Athanasia Borisa Josée Maria Germaine Waldeberta!

Of course it would be nice if they exchanged Athanasia for Anastasia! Perhaps Alice Philippa Anastasia to commemorate Prince Philip and the whole Hessian / Orthodox connection?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on May 02, 2015, 07:13:23 PM
Have they announced a name yet?
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Post by: Kimberly on May 03, 2015, 02:16:34 AM
No but according to the " bookies", Charlotte, Alice and Victoria are the favourites at the moment.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Olga Maria on May 03, 2015, 11:31:06 AM
I hope not a common Princess' name. Alice, Charlotte and Victoria are too common. But it depends on them so whatever they decide to name her, all right!
Just saw the news this early morning (May 4 here already). The baby's very cute! The Duchess looks very beautiful with that body frame. Too sad she would lose those pounds again in a couple of weeks. She's very beautiful being like that, imo. She doesn't need to be always thin (again,imo).

God bless their family!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on May 03, 2015, 12:12:49 PM
I'm sure they'll pick a name before long. 

Imagine if it was "Tatiana".
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on May 03, 2015, 12:41:26 PM
Over the moon with happiness for the Duke & Duchess!!! I am thrilled that they have a healthy little princess! How exciting...a girl baby!!! I thought of a new name that sounds lovely and not exactly traditional royal: Emily Elizabeth. I can't wait until we are told the little princess's name!
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Post by: Превед on May 03, 2015, 02:13:11 PM
I thought of a new name that sounds lovely and not exactly traditional royal: Emily Elizabeth.

Emily is indeed extremely unroyal. I don't think there has been any royals called that. It's also quite rare in the peerage. But it's roughly cognate with Amalia / Amélie and that is a very royal name in Northern Europe.
Too funny if they went all Roman with Æmilia!

But the combination Emily Elizabeth is too cutesy, adhering to the idea that girls' names must start with vowels and be "soft". Let's rather have something more challenging, like Elspeth Morag Edwina Hyacinth.
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Post by: TimM on May 03, 2015, 05:25:45 PM
I'm guessing there's still no news yet.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on May 03, 2015, 06:35:05 PM
It's been reported that a name has been selected; however, the name will not be revealed until the Queen has met her great-granddaughter. To me, that means, her name will be Princess Elizabeth of Cambridge. Lovely and so very appropriate!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on May 04, 2015, 03:15:17 AM
Imgagine if they named her Diana Camilla! Might just as well make it Diana Camilla Wallis to ruffle everyone's feathers!
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Post by: Olga Maria on May 04, 2015, 03:35:24 AM
Preved! Don't say 'bad words"! Hahahahaha!! xD

Until now no news about when they are going to meet. I'm excited for the announcement!
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Post by: Janet Ashton on May 04, 2015, 04:30:12 AM
I thought of a new name that sounds lovely and not exactly traditional royal: Emily Elizabeth.

Emily is indeed extremely unroyal. I don't think there has been any royals called that. It's also quite rare in the peerage. But it's roughly cognate with Amalia / Amélie and that is a very royal name in Northern Europe.
Too funny if they went all Roman with Æmilia!

But the combination Emily Elizabeth is too cutesy, adhering to the idea that girls' names must start with vowels and be "soft". Let's rather have something more challenging, like Elspeth Morag Edwina Hyacinth.


The various Hanoverian princesses named Amelia used sometimes to be referred to as "Emily" in the press and peoples' reminiscences, according to what I've seen. Possibly the royal family may even have used "Emily" as an occasional nickname for George III"s Amelia - if we have a George III expert here maybe they will know, but I think I've read this name in a letter or two. Royal use of Amelia is certainly the reason the name Emily became popular in the UK, as the form Emily was obviously more palatable to English speakers. Amelia caught on later (1960s onwards?); I hate it, it's as twee as anything to my ear. :-)

I'm rooting for "Wallis", personally! :-D  
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Post by: Kimberly on May 04, 2015, 09:07:59 AM
Hot from Kensington Palace...it's official.
Charlotte Elizabeth Diana is the little bubba's name
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Post by: Olga Maria on May 04, 2015, 09:11:23 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/royal-baby/11581417/kate-middleton-royal-baby-princess-name-live.html

Finally the long wait is over! Congratulations to all who guessed it right! Beautiful name!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: LisaG on May 04, 2015, 09:29:56 AM
I wonder if waiting to tell the Queen wasn't because they were using Elizabeth, but to tell her they were using Diana. This, coupled with using Diana's engagement ring, is William's way of saying "You're not going to erase my mother from memory."
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on May 04, 2015, 09:30:41 AM
Agreed, beautiful name and a loving tribute all the way around!
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Post by: Forum Admin on May 04, 2015, 10:05:16 AM
I wonder if waiting to tell the Queen wasn't because they were using Elizabeth, but to tell her they were using Diana. This, coupled with using Diana's engagement ring, is William's way of saying "You're not going to erase my mother from memory."
They always wait to tell the Queen first.  As the Monarch and Great Grandmother she is given this courtesy and respect to be informed prior to the rest of the Country.  Read nothing more into it than that.
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Post by: LisaG on May 04, 2015, 10:16:03 AM
It seemed like the made a POINT of doing a release/leak that they had decided on a name and were waiting to tell the Queen. They didn't do that with George.
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Post by: Forum Admin on May 04, 2015, 11:04:09 AM
Not true actually.  The Queen visited them and George at Kensington Palace earlier in the day and told her of the name. They then released the name to the public at 6:30 pm later in that afternoon.

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: LisaG on May 04, 2015, 11:42:19 AM
No, I know that. But they didn't tell US that. This time they made a point of saying "We have a name but we're waiting on the Queen."

Anyhoo. It doesn't matter. They did what I thought they WOULDN'T do, which is honor Diana. I thought at the very least, they'd use Frances as a middle.
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Post by: TimM on May 04, 2015, 05:16:19 PM
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Charlotte Elizabeth Diana

What a lovely name.  A beautiful tribute to her grandmother and great-grandmother.
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Post by: Kalafrana on May 05, 2015, 03:37:19 AM
I was hoping for Elizabeth, but happy with Charlotte. It's also been suggested by the British press that Charlotte is in part a tribute to the Prince of Wales.

It used to be the case until the 1970s that the child's name was not announced until the baptism.

Ann
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Post by: Превед on May 05, 2015, 01:51:16 PM
The various Hanoverian princesses named Amelia used sometimes to be referred to as "Emily" in the press and peoples' reminiscences, according to what I've seen. Possibly the royal family may even have used "Emily" as an occasional nickname for George III"s Amelia - if we have a George III expert here maybe they will know, but I think I've read this name in a letter or two. Royal use of Amelia is certainly the reason the name Emily became popular in the UK, as the form Emily was obviously more palatable to English speakers. Amelia caught on later (1960s onwards?); I hate it, it's as twee as anything to my ear. :-)

I'm rooting for "Wallis", personally! :-D  

Interesting!
Speaking of "that woman", one of her Hessian collegues, the Countess Reichenbach-Lessonitz, was born (bourgeoisly) Emilie and gave two of her daughters some strange Æmilian names: One, who divorced and remarried the same man, was named Amalie Wilhelmine Emilie , while another was named merely Emilie!

BTW it seems that the little princess's namesake, Queen Charlotte of Mecklenburg, had a paternal grandmother called (Christiane) Emilie, not Amalia, - of Schwarzburg-Sondershausen.
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Post by: TimM on May 05, 2015, 05:20:47 PM
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It's also been suggested by the British press that Charlotte is in part a tribute to the Prince of Wales.

Could be.  Charlotte is the female equivalent of Charles isn't it.   Anyway, I've heard of women named Charlotte going by the nickname "Charlie".
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Post by: Превед on May 06, 2015, 05:00:34 AM
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It's also been suggested by the British press that Charlotte is in part a tribute to the Prince of Wales.

Could be.  Charlotte is the female equivalent of Charles isn't it.  

Yes, by being the female version of Charlot, the French diminutive of Charles. The official female equivalent of Charles is Caroline (Carolina being the female version of the Latin form Carolus, hence North and South Carolina named after Charles I). The more direct equivalent is Carol, the name of Kate's mother, but that is of course far too plebeian for the RF, just like Charlene and Carola, despite Carola of Vasa, an (albeit Catholic) Queen of Saxony and a Charlène being Princess of Monaco. Carla is also not quite not comme il faut, despite Kate choosing the mother tongue of Carla Bruni-Sarkozy as her foreign language.

The Saxe-Cobourg-Gothas dits Windsor prefer the blend of German and French that is genuine English :-) Charlotte Elizabeth Diana really makes me think of the greatest Germano-Frenchwoman of all times, Elisabeth Charlotte of the Palatinate aka Liselotte von der Pfalz aka Madame, the Duchess of Orléans, the celebrated correspondent and niece of the Electress Sophia of Hanover, who often was depicted "en Diane" because of her love of hunting. Let's not hope that this Charlotte Elizabeth's husband will be a crossdressing homosexual!

BTW I was intrigued to see that there was an effort to name a US state (and not just a city) after Queen Charlotte of Mecklenburg: Vandalia (after the Slavic Wends originally inhabiting Mecklenburg and often erroneously confused with the Vandals), along the Ohio River, mostly in what is today West Virginia.

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Post by: mitia on May 06, 2015, 09:52:47 AM
There is no real diminutive of Charles or Charlotte in France. For a man named Charles, Charly is rather " commoner " and Charlot has become a word used for a man who makes a fool of himself : he is a Charlot or " c'est un charlot " means the man is rather " funny ". Charlotte is just Charlotte and a name often given nowadays, just like Louise, Emma, Victoire etc...I would not say it is in the fashion, it is classic just like Louis, Paul, Alexandre etc...for boys.
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Post by: Greenowl on May 06, 2015, 10:55:52 AM
Is Charlot not the French version of Charlie Chaplin? Jeannot is a diminutive form of Jean
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Greenowl on May 06, 2015, 10:58:57 AM
I was hoping for Elizabeth, but happy with Charlotte. It's also been suggested by the British press that Charlotte is in part a tribute to the Prince of Wales.

I like it, and Elizabeth is the second name so all is well in my opinion
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Post by: Превед on May 06, 2015, 02:51:52 PM
Interesting to hear that the -ot diminutive in French, like in Charlot, is rather dated, in these Je suis Charlie times. Just like Charlot other diminutives have also taken on fixed identities of their own: Pierrot - and the double diminutive Guillotin (from Guillaume), which with a feminine ending, became the guillotine.

I wonder if the first ever recorded (royal) Charlotte was Charlotte de Bourbon (1388 - 1422), Queen of Cyprus. If so, funny coïncidence that she was the daughter of a Catherine - de Vendôme.

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Post by: TimM on May 06, 2015, 05:56:37 PM
Well, as I said, "Charlie" is used by women named Charlotte as a short form of their names.  British singer Charli XCX's real named is Charlotte Emma Aitchison.
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Post by: mitia on May 07, 2015, 04:54:35 AM
Indeed, Charlot is the French version of Charlie Chaplin.
Of course " Je suis Charlie " is linked to the name of the weekly satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo. The tittle of this newspaper is itself linked to Charlie Brown (Snoopy) and also to Charles De Gaulle who was sometimes nicknamed either " Le Grand Charles " both beacause of his size and of his "achievment"s, or sometimes Charlie. I perfectly remember people saying Le Grand Charles (I am 60), not at all Charlie.
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Post by: Kassafrass on May 07, 2015, 09:36:23 AM
I can just see someone calling her Charlie and sparking an argument over how inappropriate it is to use nicknames for royals
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Post by: TimM on May 07, 2015, 05:28:03 PM
Well, they call Charlotte' uncle "Harry" although his name is Henry.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: wildone on May 08, 2015, 12:29:25 AM
I can just see someone calling her Charlie and sparking an argument over how inappropriate it is to use nicknames for royals

Wasn't Charlie (or Charly) a nickname for Vicky's daughter, Charlotte?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on May 08, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
I can just see someone calling her Charlie and sparking an argument over how inappropriate it is to use nicknames for royals

I think this has only been discussed with regard to royals who are dead, sainted and / or are truly historical figures instead of contemporary pop culture celebs.
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Post by: TimM on May 08, 2015, 05:28:14 PM
They called Sarah Ferguson 'Fergie" all the time. 
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Post by: Gabriella on May 10, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
I like the idea of calling Princess Charlotte "Lottie". another short form for Charlotte.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on May 10, 2015, 02:24:41 PM
I like the idea of calling Princess Charlotte "Lottie". another short form for Charlotte.

I think the Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha-Battenbergs should call her Löttchen :-) After all, UKIP lost the election most overwhelmingly, so being ever so European = German is the feeling du jour.
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Post by: DNAgenie on May 11, 2015, 12:51:22 AM
Wildone asked
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Wasn't Charlie (or Charly) a nickname for Vicky's daughter, Charlotte?

Her family nickname was Ditta, but her grandmother Queen Victoria always referred to her as Charlotte.
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Post by: Kimberly on May 11, 2015, 02:08:19 AM
I like the idea of calling Princess Charlotte "Lottie". another short form for Charlotte.

I think the Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha-Battenbergs should call her Löttchen :-) After all, UKIP lost the election most overwhelmingly, so being ever so European = German is the feeling du jour.

Well, that would go down like a ton of bricks in the UK
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Post by: Превед on May 11, 2015, 06:25:21 AM
I think the Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha-Battenbergs should call her Löttchen :-) After all, UKIP lost the election most overwhelmingly, so being ever so European = German is the feeling du jour.

Well, that would go down like a ton of bricks in the UK

Yeah, Lol, 70 years after the war a Muslim name would probably be more acceptable than a German one. Well, partly because the unwashed masses are allowed to spew hate and vitriol at the Nazis Germans, but not at Muslims.
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Post by: TimM on May 12, 2015, 05:08:42 PM
I think Charlotte is a fine name for the new Royal.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kassafrass on May 14, 2015, 11:11:33 AM
I like the idea of calling Princess Charlotte "Lottie". another short form for Charlotte.

Now that would be very sweet! I can't wait for official photos of HRH. Some are saying that we may see some by the end of May as George's came out pretty soon after his birth and that her baptism will be in September. All speculation I'm sure, but events that I am eagerly awaiting all the same. :D
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Post by: Kassafrass on May 24, 2015, 09:55:10 PM
It has begun, People magazine was referring to her as Charlie. I've heard others calling her Lottie which I do love...
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Post by: mitia on May 25, 2015, 06:53:50 AM
Grand Duchess Charlotte of Luxemburg was often called Tante Lottie by her nephews and nieces.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on May 26, 2015, 05:23:12 PM
Yeah, both "Charlie" and "Lottie" are short forms of Charlotte.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kimberly on June 06, 2015, 02:34:36 PM
Ooooh, hang on to your hats everybody......photos of Princess Charlotte are going to be released this evening. Her mum has taken them herself!
Watch this space.....
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Post by: Kimberly on June 06, 2015, 04:16:21 PM
Lovely pics.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3113786/By-George-s-gorgeous-Heart-melting-portrait-Princess-Charlotte-enjoying-cuddle-older-brother-adorable-picture-taken-doting-mum-Norfolk-home.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3113786/By-George-s-gorgeous-Heart-melting-portrait-Princess-Charlotte-enjoying-cuddle-older-brother-adorable-picture-taken-doting-mum-Norfolk-home.html)
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Post by: Greenowl on June 07, 2015, 04:36:13 AM
What wonderful photos and what a lovely family.

Cheers,
GREENOWL
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 07, 2015, 12:14:58 PM
Those pictures are absolutely adorable! So precious :)
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Post by: Kassafrass on June 08, 2015, 12:43:57 AM
The christening has been scheduled for July 5th. Can't wait for more photos of this little princess and her family...
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on July 09, 2015, 02:25:26 PM
Did anyone see the official christening photos today? They're absolutely lovely!
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 09, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
YES!!! I agree the pictures are so very lovely. Here is a link for anyone interested in seeing the highlights of the day including the Mario Testino photos William and Kate chose to share...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/princess-charlotte/11718069/The-Christening-of-Princess-Charlotte-of-Cambridge-in-pictures.html?frame=
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Post by: Greenowl on July 10, 2015, 05:22:40 PM
Thank you for the link. The photos are really lovely and the great grandparents look so well
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Post by: Kalafrana on July 12, 2015, 12:41:04 PM
I was fortunate enough to meet the Duke of Edinburgh the day before the baptism, and he was remarkably well and active for a man of 94!

Ann
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Post by: Kimberly on July 12, 2015, 03:29:24 PM
Hope his language wasn't too ripe for you Ann...ha ha ha
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 12, 2015, 04:31:21 PM
That is absolutely fabulous, Ann! Long live the duke!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Kalafrana on July 13, 2015, 03:46:45 AM
The Duke was in good form.

The event was at the Defence Sixth Form College at Welbeck, of which I became a governor last year. On being told that there were 'about fifteen' governors, the Duke observed that 'Our Lord managed with only twelve'!

Ann

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on October 20, 2015, 03:57:27 PM
Kate and William looked fantastic at the state banquet tonight. Kate was wearing the papyrus tiara; however, she was not wearing the Family Order. Unfortunate. I would think by now, producing and heir and a "spare," that she would have been awarded that honor.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on October 20, 2015, 04:07:38 PM
Kate and William looked fantastic at the state banquet tonight.

I didn't know the menus at British state banquets are printed in French!
See https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRyLrq4WsAEs7JP.jpg (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRyLrq4WsAEs7JP.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Maria Sisi on October 20, 2015, 04:12:10 PM
Well French is still considered the language of international diplomacy!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on October 21, 2015, 12:26:26 PM
Well French is still considered the language of international diplomacy!

I think today the situation is rather that French is the formal language of international diplomacy, or rather one of several. (The official languages of the United Nations are Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish.)  QEII can converse with anybody in French (although in a very peculiar accent), but neither can her family nor her Chinese guests.

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: OctoberLily on October 21, 2015, 03:23:21 PM
I ran across this article that said Kate had received the Family Order.  I can't imagine her not wearing it if it was indeed presented to her.   Can anyone confirm?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/celeb-style/kate-middleton-looks-regal-in-red-for-her-first-state-dinner/ss-BBmgiJr (http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/celeb-style/kate-middleton-looks-regal-in-red-for-her-first-state-dinner/ss-BBmgiJr)
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on October 21, 2015, 03:38:49 PM
If HM had bestowed her that honor, she would have worn it at the banquet last night.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on October 21, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
I ran across this article that said Kate had received the Family Order.  I can't imagine her not wearing it if it was indeed presented to her.   Can anyone confirm?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/celeb-style/kate-middleton-looks-regal-in-red-for-her-first-state-dinner/ss-BBmgiJr (http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/celeb-style/kate-middleton-looks-regal-in-red-for-her-first-state-dinner/ss-BBmgiJr)

Despite rumours that she received it at Balmoral during the Queen's regnal jubilee, she is apparantly not yet a портретная дама.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on October 22, 2015, 02:28:48 AM
I'm rather surprised she hasn't been awarded it yet. 

Love the Lotus Tiara on her, though.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 02, 2015, 04:32:27 PM
Absolutely adorable pictures of Princess Charlotte's at six months of age.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/princess-charlotte/12023301/Princess-Charlotte-pictured-aged-six-months-in-new-images-taken-by-Kate-Middleton.html
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 08, 2015, 03:49:23 PM
It has been reported that Kate has worn the Cambridge Lover's Knott Tiara to the Queen's annual Diplomatic Reception. This is very exciting news for those of us who have been waiting to see that lovely tiara once again. Marvelous!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Jen_94 on December 16, 2015, 01:04:20 PM
She indeed did! There is a picture out there somewhere....

And the pictures of Charlotte are so precious!
Title: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Lucien on June 22, 2016, 05:10:54 AM

Prince William graces the cover of "Attitude" a gay magazine in the UK!Great! :)

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36536059

Great guy,William!



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Post by: Williamsorb on July 26, 2016, 07:40:26 PM
Kensington Palace KensingtonRoyal
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will visit #India in the spring of 2016, at the request of HM's Government.

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Prince George and Princess Charlotte won't travel to India with their parents next year.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on July 28, 2016, 07:10:54 AM
They'll be coming here to Canada for a visit this fall:

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/william-and-kate-are-coming-to-canada-for-their-second-visit-this-fall/ar-BBuWR9r
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on August 10, 2016, 03:38:19 PM
Duchess Kate's Olympic Doppelganger Is French Cyclist Pauline Ferrand-Prevot:

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-beauty/news/kate-middletons-olympic-doppelganger-is-cyclist-pauline-ferrand-prevot-w433693?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_1144057

The resemblance is quite amazing actually.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on January 16, 2017, 03:25:28 PM
It has been reported that Prince William will be leaving East Anglian Air Ambulance to become a full-time working member of the Royal Family.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on January 16, 2017, 05:02:53 PM
It has been reported that Prince William will be leaving East Anglian Air Ambulance to become a full-time working member of the Royal Family.

Makes sense -- Her Majesty is, understandably, stepping down from some of her duties due to old age.  Someone has to fill in the "gap," and William is very popular.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 23, 2018, 07:57:03 PM
Congratulations to William and Kate on the birth of their new little prince on this day, Monday, April 23, 2018!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on April 24, 2018, 02:19:07 AM
Congratulations to William and Kate on the birth of their new little prince on this day, Monday, April 23, 2018!

Born on St. George's Day - this one should have been called George!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on April 25, 2018, 05:19:10 AM
Congratulations to William and Kate on the birth of their new little prince on this day, Monday, April 23, 2018!

Born on St. George's Day - this one should have been called George!

I'm sure they are glad that George is the name of a future King, though, considering that Prince George of Cambridge was named for George Vi.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on April 26, 2018, 11:27:04 AM
Congratulations to William and Kate.

Any news on what the little fellow is named yet?
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 26, 2018, 03:55:53 PM
No name news yet...I've been hoping they'd announce the wee one's name today. Looks like it will be left for tomorrow?! I sure hope so.

My name guess: Albert Charles Michael
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on April 26, 2018, 11:26:57 PM
Hopefully, we'll find out before long.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Greenowl on April 27, 2018, 07:27:20 AM

My name guess: Albert Charles Michael

Good guess! But it is Louis Arthur Charles. I was disappointed that they did not include Philip (or Philip instead of Charles, especially as Charlotte is a female version of Charles).

Cheers,
GREENOWL
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Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 27, 2018, 11:26:33 AM
Prince Louis Arthur Charles...lovey. Louis is quite a surprise, but a wonderfully welcome one. Little Prince Louis...I love it!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on April 27, 2018, 12:05:05 PM
Louis is an interesting choice.  I wonder if they named him after one of the French kings.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 27, 2018, 12:16:38 PM
From what I've read, it's most likely a nod to Louis Mountbatten, Earl Mountbatten of Burma...Prince Phillip's uncle, HM's second cousin and Prince Charles' honorary grandfather.

I know these are early days, but there is an uncanny Spencer resemblance to Prince Louis around his eyes. I could be totally wrong and I probably am. Like I said, it's still early days.
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Post by: Превед on April 27, 2018, 05:59:16 PM
From what I've read, it's most likely a nod to Louis Mountbatten, Earl Mountbatten of Burma...Prince Phillip's uncle, HM's second cousin and Prince Charles' honorary grandfather.

I can imagine anything Russian is extremely unpopular in the UK in this year of the Shrewsbury gas attack, but it's interesting that in this centennary of the murder of the Romanovs their relative Louis Mountbatten, himself assassinated by revolutionaries and someone who always kept a picture of Maria Nikolayevna at his bedside, is commemmorated in this way.

BTW the s in Louis is a reminder of the original full Proto-Germanic form: Hludowigaz (Ludwig), just like Alice / Alix are short forms of Aþalhaiduz.

Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: TimM on April 27, 2018, 06:03:51 PM
Quote
From what I've read, it's most likely a nod to Louis Mountbatten, Earl Mountbatten of Burma...Prince Phillip's uncle, HM's second cousin and Prince Charles' honorary grandfather.

Yeah, that makes sense.
Title: Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Post by: Превед on April 28, 2018, 08:16:07 AM
Reportedly Russians of a certain age immediately think of this song when they hear about a royal called Louis:

YouTube: Alla Borisovna Pugachova: Всё могут короли (Kings Can Do Everything) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqvaQqyd3-Y)
A song from 1979 by one of the greatest Soviet artists about Ebenbürtigkeit! (About how a king like a certain Louis II can do everything except marry the beautiful goose herdess he wants, but is forced to marry some ugly ebenbürtige princess.) Perhaps the restrictions of Ebenbürtigkeit somehow ressonated with the opressed masses of Soviet citizens?