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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Danish Royal Family => Topic started by: Svetabel on January 13, 2005, 03:35:45 AM

Title: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Svetabel on January 13, 2005, 03:35:45 AM
I'd like to start a thread on Queen Alexandrine,spouse of King Christian X. She was the eldest daughter of GD Friedrich Franz III of Mecklenburg-Schwerin and his russian spouse GD Anastasia Michailovna.Alexandrine  was not such a charming woman as her sister Cecilie and I guess the life of Alexandrine was not so stormy as in the case with Cecilie.I know that King Christian X was rather a severe and sometimes unbearable person (I mean his treatment of Maria Fedorovna,his aunt ).How he and Alexandrine were getting on? I'd like to know any info on them (esp. on Alexandrine's youth)

And 2 my favourites pics of Alexandrine

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/QueenAlexandrine.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/QueenAlexandrine-.jpg)

The last pic is amazing,isn't it?  :)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: redlow53 on January 13, 2005, 05:37:56 AM
hello

Nice pictures. The last is the queen in the natinal dress of Iceland, that time under Denmark. The king and the queen had a very happy marrige thrugh 49 years. King Christian vas a strict person such as many military men at this time. The queen was not charming like Cecilie I know, but she was a very varm, kind and very much loved queen in Denmark. The couple lived a very plain life. Her sons adored her.
You think he was strict to the empress, offcource he was. The danish kingdom have never been a rich kingdom, and the empress know that from she was a litlle girl, but she have lived more years in glitter and overwhelming richdom in Russia then in poor in Denmark and she like glitter and it was sure not easy to put out the habit and not be the person who decide.

All people at this time in Denmark ecenomize light and so on.

(All the suits the empress and the queen of England had bought to their father was hanging not used when he died, because you used the suit till it was worn. It tells something about the danish kingdom.)

Redlow53
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on January 13, 2005, 09:20:34 AM
Alexandrine struck me as someone who was of a less flashy, more settled kind of person. Much like Queen Mary, she seems a rather reserved personality (though not unkind) who probably developed more steady tendencies after growing up with a mother who may have been charming but didn't exactly provide one with the most stable of upbringings. Alexandrine's mother, the former GDss Anastasia Mikhailovna, was very unpopular in Mecklenberg-Schwerin and eventually absented herself entirely from the area after being widowed.

Thus someone steady and dutiful probably appealed to her as opposed to the more fun-loving and glamorous Cecile who would've enjoyed (at least when she was younger) the more flamboyant Crown Prince of Germany. The 2 sisters reminded me somewhat of Eleanor and Marianne in Sense & Sensibility--remarkably close despite their differing personalities.

Christian and Alexandrine's wedding actually took place at Cannes rather than Schwerin because of Anastasia's loathing (though she did insist the Grand Duchy pony up for the trousseau). The bride was 18. Cecile admitted she freely cried for missing her sister and the emotions of the day even got to Alexandrine. Alexandrine received several niece gifts including a tortoise shell fan engraved with diamonds from the Prince and Princess of Wales and a sapphire and diamond necklace from Nicholas and Alexandra. Christian IX and Louise weren't able to attend because of age and health but arranged a gala dinner and celebrations in Copenhagen the night of the wedding.

I don't know if Alexandrine basically acted as the first lady of Mecklenberg-Schwerin in the absence of her mother (I would think so) but she proved much up to the task in Denmark. Queen Louise wasn't to live much longer and 'Aunt Swan' had no taste for society. Alexandrine was a private personality but, dutiful, young and attractive, proved a popular figure. The marriage of these 2 serious-minded people proved successful and 2 sons were born within the next 2 years.

Alexandrine reminds me in other ways of Queen Mary--besides being reserved and shy, she married a gruff, temperamental sailor who scared their children (not surprising given the excessively strict upbringing he endured at the hands of Aunt Swan) and with a love of the arts which her husband didn't share but which she passed on to at least one of her sons (in this case the heir, Frederick).

Unlike Mary, however, she was a much easier figure in regards to her sons who adored her. (She also didn't share Mary's love of jewellery!) However, again like Mary, she didn't stand up against Christian X when it came to discipline but was able to show them more affection herself. She and Frederick came to share a deep love of music and Alexandrine was a devotee of Wagner, even attending the festivals in Bayreuth and was a familiar figure at various concerts in Copenhagen.

Along with Crown Princess Margaret of Sweden, Alexandrine, with her connections, acted as a conduit between relatives who found themselves on opposing sides of WW1. She would receive letters and recopy them herself and send them on. She helped the Dowager Duchess of Coburg (cousin of her mother) to keep in contact with her daughters Grand Duchess Victoria and Queen Marie of Romania. It must've been particularly difficult on Alexandrine as both her siblings were in Germany--one the Crown Princess--and her mother was in France out of reach. Once the war was over, however, she resumed her close relationship with both her siblings and the families attended each others celebrations (birthdays, anniversaries, etc...) in each country.

A sensitive person (as many shyer people seem to often be) she was apparently so ashamed of CX's treatment towards MF that she was known to have burst into tears on at least one occasion. Again though, she didn't possess the force of personality to stand up to him. It was at this impasse that George V stepped in between his warring aunt and cousin and settled the annuity on her to help ease tensions over money.

CX showed his best colors during the German occupation of Denmark during WW2. Until his health faltered, he would ride out daily through the streets of Copenhagen much to the consternation of the German authorities. It was through this spirit that he became such a national symbol to the Danish people. It wasn't easy on Alexandrine though and she accompanied him to the stables each morning and waited anxiously each day for him to return--even greeting him at the front door herself. According to his granddaughter Queen Margarethe, he didn't actually wear the Star of David as has been reported, but the Jews in Denmark apparently weren't forced to. Confusion seems to have come from a remark that if they were made to CX would be the first to join them. Life wasn't easy for he and Alexandrine as there were 2 bullet holes in his study at his summer palace and Germans were seen to lob grendades into the Amalienborg gardens. Between these dangers and the King's decreasing health, Alexandrine had a good deal of personal worry in addition to the stresses of the war itself. When the country was finally free, Christian and Alexandrine opened the first new Parliament to great acclimation. However, much like George VI in England, his health was permanently damaged by the stresses and he died in 1947.

Alexandrine outlived him by 5 years. She had retreated from the public eye more and more, giving way to her vivacious daughter-in-law Ingrid (daughter of Crown Princess Margaret of Sweden and a great-granddaughter of Queen Victoria) who had married Frederick in 1935. She continued to be involved with her various charities and maintained her musical interests. Increasingly though her health was declining as well. The stress of the war years had been compounded by her devoted nursing of her husband in his final years. She was always with Frederick & Ingrid and their daughters for Christmastime though and Queen Margarethe remembers her with affection and with the way she spoke Danish and English (to Ingrid) with a slight accent despite her 50 years away from Germany.

Soon before her annual Christmastime stay, she fell in with an intestinal complaint. She was admitted to a hospital and an operation was performed but her condition didn't improve. On Dec 27, 3 days after she turned 72, a bulletin was put out that she had slipped into unconsciousness and she passed away the next day. Ingrid would write to Nancy Astor that Alexandrine had proved 'a very kind understanding' MIL who never 'mixed up in our affairs. She adored my husband & admired him tremendously, perhaps that was not a good thing always in his young days, but he certainly deserved it now.' Despite the bitter cold and a heavy snowstorm, 10,000 Danes came out to pay tribute as she was laid to rest in January 1953. As the coffin appeared, the crowd spontaneously burst into the singing of a hymn. It is a testament to Alexandrine that her patriotism had never been questioned despite her German birth during two world wars. The ceremony was a simple one in keeping with her nature, with no sermon, just a brief reading of biblical texts. Her bier was transferred to Roskilde Cathedral to lay beside her husband of almost 50 years.


Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Alicky1872 on January 13, 2005, 05:02:03 PM
I recently received my dvd of A Royal Family (I can't praise it enough!) and there was a home movie clip of Christian X and Alexandrine on the beach. She was in a bathing suit, hugging her knees to her chest and rocking back and foreward! It was so cute! It was nice to see her "letting her hair down" so to speak!

Now as for Frederick IX's leopard print speedos.... LOL!  ;)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Svetabel on January 14, 2005, 12:30:34 AM
Thank you,Ella,for info on Alexandrine!Very-very interesting!!!! :D
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Martyn on January 14, 2005, 02:35:27 PM
That was a very concise yet insightful precis of her life GDElla.  What a sensitive person she sounds.  I particularly loved your comment about her patriotism never being questioned, through two World Wars.  She must have been terribly popular.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: PrinceEddy1864 on January 17, 2005, 08:53:56 AM


About Alexandrine and Christian's wedding photo~
I guess the reason that Thyra's daughters were in the wedding party was because they were cousins to the groom. Do you think that was there closest connection or was there another reason for them being in the wedding.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on January 18, 2005, 12:34:14 AM


I think the Cumberland girls being Christian's cousins was probably the link--I don't know if the Mecklenberg-Schwerins and Cumberlands socialized much since Thyra and Ernst spent so much time in Austria. All the cousins seemed to be very close so it would make sense to put those of age in the wedding.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Marc on January 18, 2005, 06:02:34 PM
Any regal paintings of Queen Alexandine?
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Eurohistory on January 22, 2005, 09:33:58 AM
Coryne Hall, the well respected royal author, wrote an excellent article on Queen Alexandrine of Denmark for The European Royal History Journal in one of our issues a couple of years ago.

Arturo Beéche
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Marc on January 22, 2005, 09:40:16 AM
I would like to see so much the normal portrait of Queen Alexandrine wearing Ruby parure,because I saw once only one but that portrait was too small and you can't see the beauty of the painting,and of the Queen also...so that's why I asked if anyone has it...?
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on April 12, 2005, 02:27:10 PM
Sorry, just a small one.
(http:// http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/alexandrine1931.jpg)

The only big one I have is this.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/dronningalexandrine.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Marc on April 12, 2005, 06:18:39 PM
Thanks so much!I just love the small portrait!Is there is any chance for you to find it somewhere and post it bigger?I hope there is someone from Denmark who could post it for us!I assume there are a lot of portraits of her in books and libraries throughout Denmark!At least,I hope...
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: aleksandra on April 12, 2005, 06:26:18 PM
cant see the photos from granduchessella. plus have any better & bigger, photo's of queen Alexandrine.
Her sister Cecile was she killed in 1937, airpale crash?
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Marc on April 12, 2005, 06:34:58 PM
It was Cecilie of Greece and Denmark(sister of Prince Phillip) who was killed in aeroplane crash in 1937!
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: aleksandra on April 12, 2005, 08:21:07 PM
thank you very much. your photos do not show up, even when I check your messages that you send out.
Can you try again. I have told you to or even asked to reposted them.
Thanks :(
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on April 12, 2005, 08:39:30 PM
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thank you very much. your photos do not show up, even when I check your messages that you send out.
Can you try again. I have told you to or even asked to reposted them.
Thanks :(


I'll do my best. I still haven't gathered all my photos together after my hard drive crash. I'm moving as fast as I can.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Marc on April 14, 2005, 06:14:13 AM
Anyone have her state portrait bigger,please?  :-[
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Marc on April 14, 2005, 06:15:05 AM
The one from the previous page!
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on November 01, 2005, 06:14:14 PM
Queen Alexandrines state portrait.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/alexmaleri.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Marc on November 01, 2005, 07:47:33 PM
Wow,kmerov-thanks!This is beautiful!
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 08, 2006, 05:58:57 PM
A picture from the engagement of Christian and Alexandrine.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/youngc10anddine.jpg)

Two days before the wedding.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/weddingalexc10.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Marc on January 09, 2006, 04:25:14 PM
Can anyone identify those people?
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on January 09, 2006, 04:39:51 PM
Front Row:

GD Michael M (Miche-Miche), George Wilhelm of Cumberland (?), ?, ?, ?

Seated:

One of the Cumberland Princesses, Thyra of Denmark, Gustav of Denmark (?), Cecile of M-Schwerin (later CPss Cecile), ? (boy behind her), Aunt Swan, Duchess Thyra

Standing:

another Cumberland princess, ?, ?, Princess Nicholas of Greece (?), Christian, Alexandrine, Miechen, CP Frederick, Xenia, Waldemar (?), GD Michael, Cumberland princess, GD Anastasia, Sandro, ?
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 09, 2006, 06:04:57 PM
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Can anyone identify those people?


Front row from left.
GD Mikhail M, GD Boris, Prince Ernst August of Hannover, GD Andrei and Prince Harald of Denmark.

Seated from left.
Princess Olga of Hannover, Princess Thyra of Denmark, Not ID'ed but maybe GD Friedrich Franz 4. of M-S, Duchess Cecilie of Mecklenburg- S, behind her Prince Christian of Hannover, CP Lovisa and Thyra.

Standing from left.
Princess Alexandra of Hannover,Duchess Marie of M-S, Duke Johann Albrecht of M-S, GD Helena, Christian and Alexandrine, Maria Pavlovna, CP Frederik, GD Xenia, Duke Ernst August of Cumberland, GD Mikhail, Princess Marie Louise of Hannover, GD Anastasia, Sandro, and Duke Paul of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 09, 2006, 06:21:17 PM
From the wedding day (sorry about the line).
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/theweddinmgsay.jpg)

First row from left.
GD Andrei, Princess Olga, Cecilie (blurred), GD Mikhail M, GD Boris, CP Ferdinand of Romania.

Second row from left.
Princess Alexandra, GD Helena, Princess Curoussaf, Duchess Thyra, GD Anastasia, CP Lovisa, GD Maria Pavlovna, CP Marie of Romania, GD Marie of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Queen Emma of the Netherlands, and standing CP Frederik.

Third row from left.
Princess Marie Louise, GD Mikhail, Mademoiselle Scalon, Princess Thyra (blurred), Alexandrine, Christian, Duchess Elisabeth of M-Schwerin, Duke Ernst August, GD Xenia, Duke Paul Friedrich of M-S, Duchess Marie of M-S, Prince Harald, Duke Johann Albrecht of M-S.

Back row from left.
GD Sandro, GD Friedrich Franz 4., Duke Adolf Friedrich of M-S,  Duke Heinrich of M-S(later married to Queen Wilhelmina), and GD Sergei Mikhailovich.
 
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Kevin From Australia on January 10, 2006, 12:00:27 AM
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Front row from left.
GD Mikhail M, GD Boris, Prince Ernst August of Hannover, GD Andrei and Prince Harald of Denmark.

Seated from left.
Princess Olga of Hannover, Princess Thyra of Denmark, Not ID'ed but maybe GD Friedrich Franz 4. of M-S, Duchess Cecilie of Mecklenburg- S, behind her Prince Christian of Hannover, CP Lovisa and Thyra.

Standing from left.
Princess Alexandra of Hannover,Duchess Marie of M-S, Duke Johann Albrecht of M-S, GD Helena, Christian and Alexandrine, Maria Pavlovna, CP Frederik, GD Xenia, Duke Ernst August of Cumberland, GD Mikhail, Princess Marie Louise of Hannover, GD Anastasia, Sandro, and Duke Paul of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.


The Hanover/Cumberland boy sitting on the ground is actually Prince Christian, and Prince Ernst August is standing behind Duchess Cecilie - they have them mistaken in the Glucksborg book(s) - the boy to the side is in a wheel chair and that is their elder brother Prince Georg Wilhelm - he was recovering from an operation on his knee, which he had been having, and was to have, on going problems with since April 1896.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Marc on January 10, 2006, 06:31:32 AM
Sorry for asking but who are Princess Curoussaf and Madmoiselle Scalon?
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 10, 2006, 12:21:04 PM
Thanks for the corrections, Kevin.  :) I just wrote of the Glücksborg books.

Marc, I don't know either, but they must have been close to the family somehow....
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 10, 2006, 12:25:54 PM
Some random pictures..

Alexandrine with sister Cecilie, and in the back, Christian and Friedrich Franz.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/alexandcecilie.jpg)

Alexandrine and Christian in 1906.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/dobbeltportrait.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 10, 2006, 12:31:31 PM
The hole family on horse-back.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/tilhest.jpg)

And Queen Alexandrine late in life.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/oldalexandrine.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on January 10, 2006, 10:49:17 PM
Great photos Kmerov! I love seeing ones of Alexandrine and her Schwerin family.

I think in the last photo of Alexandrine, you can see a portrait of either EVII or Waldemar and one of Queen Maud (full-length).

Here's a wedding one:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/britain/img676wedding.jpg)

Princess Olga of Cumberland, Helen of Baden, Princess Cecile of Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Mademoiselle Scalon , Alexandrine & Christian, Princess Thyra of Denmark, Princess Alexandra of Cumberland , Princess Marie Louise of Cumberland, Princess Curoussoff
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on January 10, 2006, 11:21:42 PM
Nice 4 generation photo:

GD Michael of Russia with his daughter Anastasia (GDss of Mecklenberg-Schwerin), her daughter CPss Alexandrine of Denmark and her son, the future Frederick IX of Denmark

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/19_1_bRussiaGeorgeMichailowitscha.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Svetabel on January 11, 2006, 12:38:32 AM
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/19_1_bRussiaGeorgeMichailowitscha.jpg)

Yes,I love this picture and have been trying to find out a bigger version for a long time  :(
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Svetabel on January 11, 2006, 12:40:18 AM
Wonderful photos, Kmerov! :D Thanks.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 11, 2006, 03:31:30 PM
Thanks, Gdella and Svetabel. :) Gdella, the picture is of Valdemar.  :)

Christian X was known to be a very hard and stiff man, but he was also a very emotionel man, and he loved his grand children.

Two pictures of Christian as grand dad.
With his oldest grandchild, Princess Elisabeth, daughter of Prince Knud and Princess Caroline Mathilde.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/c10medelisabeth.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/cXbabyalk.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 11, 2006, 03:39:21 PM
Queen Alexandrine was very popular, eventhough she was German. Once during WWII her sister-in law, Princess Helena (nee Glücksborg)said, now we Germans must stick together. Queen Alexandrine pointed to the door, and said, I'm the Queen of Denmark.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Svetabel on January 12, 2006, 12:42:18 AM
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Yes,I love this picture and have been trying to find out a bigger version for a long time  :(


In fact a bigger version is in "The Camera and the Tsars" ;D, yesterday I looked through this book one more time...well, it seems I need a rest from all these photos of Royalties as I already mixed up the photos I had ever seen... :P
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: allanraymond on January 13, 2006, 05:21:57 PM
Helen was a fervent supporter of the Nazis much to the consternation of her husband Prince Harald and their  two sons.

Allan Raymond

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Queen Alexandrine was very popular, eventhough she was German. Once during WWII her sister-in law, Princess Helena (nee Glücksborg)said, now we Germans must stick together. Queen Alexandrine pointed to the door, and said, I'm the Queen of Denmark.

Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on January 13, 2006, 11:13:22 PM
It caused huge embarrassment to the royal family and caused her to get booted out of Denmark by Christian X. She was only allowed to return when her husband was gravely ill.

She was an ardent Nazi supporter along with her brothers-in-law Charles Edward, Duke of Coburg (husband of her sister Victoria Adelheid) and Prince August Wilhelm of Prussia (husband of her sister Alexandra Victoria; son of Kaiser Wilhelm II).  
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on March 28, 2006, 02:34:07 PM
Christian X had a difficult relationship with MF after she moved to Denmark, but the Danish Royal family did a lot to help the Romanovs during the revolution.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Yseult on March 28, 2006, 04:50:29 PM
Kmerov, I was reading the wonderful bio about Minnie writted by Coryne Hall the last days and I am certain that the danish royal family tried to be a real support to the Dowager Empress. I think that Erik Scavenius, the Foreign Minister of Danish Government, and his cousin Harald Scavenius, who was the Denmark´s Minister to Petrograd since 1912, worked very hard in this rough times to ensure the safety of Minnie. Members of the Danish Red Cross delegation as Dr Carl Kreb made a great effort to help Minnie, and the same did employees of the danish Transatlantic Company. Ingeborg Larsen, sister of one employee of TC, arrived at Harax one time with letters from the Danish Royal Family hidden into her clothes.

So, my impression is that King Christian X was really concerned about his aunt Minnie and really wanted to take her away from the Crimea, where things easily could go from bad to worse. But later, when Minnie was in the danish court, he could not be patient with the old lady...and it is a pity. I think Queen Alexandrine suffered a lot, due the behaviour of her husband to the old auntie exiled from a lost empire.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on March 28, 2006, 06:33:51 PM
According to Romanov Diary (Greek Minny's memoirs) she appealed to the Danish and British courts. Since she was in England (having been there throughout the war) and personally gave Queen Mary and letter to pass on to President Wilson. She never heard back from the President.

I don't know about CX and his relations with MF. The Swan family seems to have always been somewhat distant from the rest of the family. The treatment of his mother certainly didn't sit well. The Danish government certainly tried to help and, being a neutral country, were able to issue visas. (I think the Danes did, I know Sweden did for Marie Pavlovna but she'd been a Swedish princess)

Certainly CX's relations after MF left weren't that good. Whereas her British nephew and nieces extended her an allowance and helped her budget so she could begin to live life for the first time being responsible for her own finances, even helping her to find a Danish steward, I don't think her Danish nephew did the same. He allowed her to live in the one palace but there was a constant battle over costs, leading to the famous story of him trying to get her to turn down her lights and MF issuing an order that every light in the palace be turned out.

It was rumored that part of the reason the jewel box was taken (with Xenia's permission) to England was the feeling that CX would want repayment for his years of putting MF up. I forget if this was addressed in Lost Fortune of the Tsars, it was in Coryne Hall's bio on MF and, I think, the recent one on Xenia.

Post-WW2, it was the Danish government which basically forced Olga to leave the country (and her much-loved farm) for political reasons, chiefly fear of angering the Soviets, and emigrate to Canada. I don't know what the Danish royal family thought of this. Xenia remained in England until her death.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on March 29, 2006, 11:35:00 AM
Yes, the Royal family did what they could to help Maria Feodorovna, but also Nicholas II and his family and the Mikhailovich's (as you can see from the telegram), both thru official ways (danish government) and also unofficially.
GD Mikhail son, Count Brasov was sendt to Denmark during the revolution, and stayed there until he could be united with his mother in London.
After Christian IX's death in 1906, the three sisters got one of the Amalienborg mansions to have as their Danish home, so it wasn't actually Christian X who gave MF permission to stay at Amalienborg.  
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on March 29, 2006, 11:44:51 AM
The story of GD Olga is quite sad. During the war she had hidden several Russians who had joined the Nazis against Russia (thinking that they could get rid of the communist dictatorship) in her home. Because of that, the Danish government thought it best that she left the country, before the Soviet Union would demand her arrested or delivered to them.  
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on April 07, 2006, 09:54:50 AM
Besides the telegram from Grand Duchess George, Queen Alexandrine also received telegrams from her mother urging her to help her uncles. Harald Scavenius was allowed to visit the GD's in jail during 1918. He smuggled letters from and to the prison, and tried his best to free the GD's.
Christian X told the Danish government that he would pay for the GD's stay in Denmark if the government could help free the GD's and bring them to Denmark.
Harald Scavenius also tried to help Queen Olga and Princess Olga Paley. Marie Georgievna wrote that he and his staff did more to help the IF then anyone else.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on April 07, 2006, 10:52:15 AM
Is it Scavenius who was the one who supposedly secured the release of the 4 GDs imprisoned in St Peter & Paul only to arrive to a newspaper report saying they'd been executed the day before?
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Michael_II on April 21, 2006, 03:57:39 PM
I have a question in the Christian IX chapel at Roskilde Cathedral there lies buried Christian IX and Queen Louise in a double tomb, Fredrick VIII and Queen Louise in another double tomb and then Christian X and Queen Alexandrine.  My question are they buried in sarcophagi or are those tombs just
memorials and they are buried elsewhere in the cathedral.  (I hope this makes sense) :-/
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: anabel on April 22, 2006, 12:30:05 PM
They are indeed buried there.

Christian IX and Louise´s tomb:
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9572/christianluise3ak.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=christianluise3ak.jpg)

Frederik VIII and Louise´s tomb:
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3190/frederiklouise7mk.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frederiklouise7mk.jpg)

Christian X and Alexandrine´s tomb:
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9806/christianalexandrine5ti.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=christianalexandrine5ti.jpg)

Thanks to http://www.royaltyguide.nl/
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: gogm on April 22, 2006, 03:09:23 PM
The story of Alexandrine showing Helena the door is a story of spirit and real ethical character.

Decent people stuck together.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on November 23, 2006, 02:58:33 PM
Queen Alexandrine was very fond of her brother and sister who all shared the same "Russian" humour. The Grand Duke Friedrich Franz IV of Mecklenburg-Schwerin and his family stayed a year in Denmark after november 1918, and she visited them very often. When he was dying in 1945 after the end of WWII Alexandrine went incognito to see him.

Alexandrine and her mother GDss Anastasia
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/alexandrineanastasia.jpg)

From a state visit in 1913 by her brother and sister in-law
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/visit1913.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on November 23, 2006, 03:03:23 PM
Alexandrine and Friedrich Franz in Cannes.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/afrfra1914riviera.jpg)

With her brother and sister in 1928
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/alexsiblingsca1928.jpg)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/alexsiblingsca1928.jpg (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/alexsiblingsca1928.jpg)

Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 18, 2007, 07:59:42 PM
Some more pictures...
The young couple (Alexandrine wasn't very popular during her first years in Denmark but later it changed).
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/chrale1898.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/chralex1897.jpg)

Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 18, 2007, 08:02:46 PM
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/alexadrine1894.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/pchrhertal.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/ankomstkkoeph.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 18, 2007, 08:08:00 PM
Queen Alexandrine receiving Queen Maud for the funeral of Dowager Queen Lovisa in 1926.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/alexmaud1926.jpg)

Alexandrine with her niece, Cecilie of Prussia and her goddaughter Louise of Prussia.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/acecilieniecelouisegdatterpreuss.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on January 18, 2007, 08:14:24 PM
Family gathering in 1932.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/christian62years1932.jpg)
Bigger version
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/christian62years1932.jpg (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/christian62years1932.jpg)


From 1937 without Alexandrine.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/1937.jpg)
Bigger version
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/1937.jpg (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/1937.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: ashdean on January 19, 2007, 07:59:45 AM
Queen Alexandrine was very fond of her brother and sister who all shared the same "Russian" humour. The Grand Duke Friedrich Franz IV of Mecklenburg-Schwerin and his family stayed a year in Denmark after november 1918, and she visited them very often. When he was dying in 1945 after the end of WWII Alexandrine went incognito to see him.
I know  the Grand Duke died at his married daughters home in Schleswig-Holstien...but did the family leave Schwerin before the English (ie may 1945) arrived or before they pulled out & the soviet take over?


Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Svetabel on January 20, 2007, 11:08:06 AM
Just wonderful pictures, Kmerov! :) Thanks.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: KarlandZita on January 21, 2007, 10:48:47 AM
Yes, really fantastic :D

I find a certain resemblance between Alexandrine and her sister Cécilie, although, in my opinion, Cécilie was much prettier at least being young before she grows bigger.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on February 01, 2007, 11:06:47 PM
This is up for sale and listed as Alexandrine by Tuxen but it doesn't look like her to me. Plus, did Tuxen paint her? She didn't marry into the Danish royal family for several years after his famous 1892 family portrait and I don't know if he did any individual work for them after that.

(http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/galleryduval/070129134.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Svetabel on February 02, 2007, 01:41:48 PM
That is definitely not Alexandrine. If I remember correctly the only one image of her  by Tuxen was in the large painting "Christian X visiting Greenland.1921" :-\
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on February 03, 2007, 11:39:55 AM
Here's her wedding dress:

(http://www.dragt.dk/samling/amalienborg/amb05.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Linnea on February 03, 2007, 03:23:56 PM
Alexandrine´s mother was more unpopular than ever after the Cannes wedding of her daughter as the people of Schwerin thought they had been deprived of a great social event, something that didn´t happen too often in Schwerin.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on February 03, 2007, 06:50:10 PM
Her son's wedding, to Alexandra Cumberland, didn't take place in Schwerin either, did it? Her younger daughter, Cecile, was married in Berlin so they were deprived there as well--though that wasn't Anastasia's fault.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on February 06, 2007, 05:38:06 PM
Maybe the portrait is of another Alexandrine then the Queen? It is definetely not Alexandrine Mecklenburg-Schwerin.

The wedding of Grand Duke Friedrich Franz and Princess Alexandra took place in Gmunden. So none of the three siblings had their weeding in Schwerin.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: ashdean on March 05, 2007, 03:12:17 PM
Well at least the taxpayers were saved the expenses of big celebrations...
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 16, 2007, 02:32:36 PM
Great photos Kmerov! I love seeing ones of Alexandrine and her Schwerin family.

I think in the last photo of Alexandrine, you can see a portrait of either EVII or Waldemar and one of Queen Maud (full-length).

Here's a wedding one:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/britain/img676wedding.jpg)

Princess Olga of Cumberland, Helen of Baden, Princess Cecile of Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Mademoiselle Scalon , Alexandrine & Christian, Princess Thyra of Denmark, Princess Alexandra of Cumberland , Princess Marie Louise of Cumberland, Princess Curoussoff

Whos Princess Curoussoff?
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on December 16, 2007, 10:21:08 PM
If you go here:

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,2222.225.html

brnbg had posted this pic (and was good enough to include many blow-ups of individual sections) while svetabel added the identifications
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Svetabel on December 17, 2007, 12:56:53 AM

Whos Princess Curoussoff?

Princess Yurusova (Yurusoff) was a lady-in-waiting of GDss Maria Pavlovna if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 17, 2007, 04:40:10 PM
thank you Steva and GDElla! :)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: ashdean on January 04, 2008, 10:47:05 AM

Whos Princess Curoussoff?

Princess Yurusova (Yurusoff) was a lady-in-waiting of GDss Maria Pavlovna if I remember correctly.
The Princes OUROUSOFF shared the same  descent from Tartar Khans & the prophet Mohammed as their distant cousins the YOUSSOUPOFFS....In the 1930's a Princess Ourousoff lived in exile in Brussels on a pension from her nephew Nicolas de Basily.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: ArchDss Louise-Henriette on April 22, 2008, 11:01:05 AM
Alexandrine von Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Queen of Denmark
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4514/alexandrinein1.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Luc on July 28, 2008, 04:05:00 AM
That´s a nice one, Louise Henriette :)

Where did Alexandrine live before she became queen in 1912 ???
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Luc on January 05, 2009, 04:18:06 AM
Alexandrine's wedding dress :

http://www.dragt.dk/samling/amalienborg/index.eng.html
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 16, 2009, 09:48:22 AM
A beautiful photo of King Christian X and Queen Alexandrine: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3413/3220672972_6dfd051101.jpg
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: William-Kentucky on October 26, 2009, 05:50:58 AM
I'm happy to read all the postings on Queen Alexandrine; as a Danish friend (now in his 70s) once told me, during war years, she seemed to be a kind of national grandmother. 

He also corroborated her unswerving Danish patriotism, telling the story - and I'm wondering if anyone else has heard this? - about her nephews, then in the Wehrmacht, asking if they could come and visit her.  With great tact, balancing family feeling with her position, she replied Yes, but that the visit must be strictly private and they must come out of uniform.  One nephew (un-named) showed up in uniform --- and was turned away.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on November 07, 2009, 09:13:15 AM
That´s a nice one, Louise Henriette :)

Where did Alexandrine live before she became queen in 1912 ???

Alexandrine lived mainly in what is called Christian VIII mansion at Amalienborg Palace, and at Sorgenfri Palace outside of Copenhagen.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine: film clip
Post by: William-Kentucky on December 10, 2009, 05:28:52 AM
There is currently (10 Dec. '09) an excellent 10-minute film compilation of King Christian X available for viewing on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDEoZ3zJRp4&NR=1

(Should this link not work:  access Youtube; search "Kong Chistian X"; find the 10.36-long segment titled "K. Christian d. 10. 70 arsfodselsdag")

Originally newreel footage, it covers the celebrations of two birthdays (70th and 71st) and of the celebrations marking King's thirtieth anniversary on the throne.  Included are clips of His Majesty's morning rides; motorocades with Queen Alexandrine and other members of the Royal Family through the streets of Copenhagen; the King speaking to the crowd from the balcony of the Amalienborg; and a wonderful segment showing the King and Queen as grandparents (the shot of the King tete-a-tete with Princess Elisabeth I find especially touching).

The compilation features the original Danish narration; in some sequences, the sound seems to have been recorded "live," while in others, it was dubbed in later.

I would imagine that seeing these films on their original release during the war years (1940, 1941, 1942), must have provided a heartening morale boost to the Danish people:  as the King himself concluded, "Denmark lilves!"
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on May 18, 2010, 07:22:25 PM
Christian X's first love was Princess Marguerite of Orléans, sister of Princess Waldemar of Denmark. She turned him down after some years of keeping him waiting and Christian X was heartbroken. He was very emotional at times.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on May 18, 2010, 07:41:47 PM
Christian X at the reunion of Nothern Schleswig to Denmark in 1920.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/th_kongenoggraensen.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/kongenoggraensen.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on May 18, 2010, 08:27:22 PM
Christian X's first love was Princess Marguerite of Orléans, sister of Princess Waldemar of Denmark. She turned him down after some years of keeping him waiting and Christian X was heartbroken. He was very emotional at times.

That's so interesting! Thank you Kmerov! Was that in one of the Danish books you are always so good to share from? Poor Christian was 'married off' to several princesses in the press, including his cousins Victoria of Wales and Marie of Greece. There was another engagement reproduced with photos in some magazine but I can't recall who it was--it might have been Princess Pauline of Wurttemberg. They never named the one he actually was interested in though! Does anything you've read say how he came to get to know Alexandrine and whether it was a love-match? They certainly seemed to suit.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on May 21, 2010, 09:27:02 AM
You are welcome. Yes, it's from a Danish bio on him. As I remember he met Alexandrine in march 1897 in Cannes where he went officially to visit his aunts, Duchess Thyra of Cumberland and Queen Olga of Greece, but really he was there to spot eligible princesses, and particulary Alexandrine which he had not met until that point. Within weeks the couple were engaged. It was a love mach in the sence that they really fell in love during these days, but of course Christian was there with a plan to propose if they suited each other. By the way, he proposed while on a visit to the island named Marguerite not far from Cannes. 
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: grandduchessella on May 21, 2010, 09:39:47 AM
Thank you once again! I really need to check out our Danish Rosetta Stone and learn to at least read the language if not speak it!  :) Interesting that Olga was down there. She could have provided some intel on Alexandrine since her mother was a Russian Grand Duchess perhaps? She also was a good sounding board for George of Wales when he was debating whether to propose to May Teck and maybe acted in the same capacity. Regardless, it's nice to know that they did fall in love and they made a very attractive young couple. Christian always struck me as reminiscent of his cousin George V in temperament--is that borne out at all in the bio?
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on May 21, 2010, 10:26:20 AM
You are welcome. Yes in the recent years more personel letters and diaries of the Danish RF have been published, thus bringing a lot of new information.
It's been a while since I read the bio, but Christian X and Alexandrines connection to Queen Olga and the Russian IF is mentioned in the book, but it doesn't say how the idea of marriage came about in details.
I think that Christian X and George V had similar personality traits, but I can't remember if the book mentions this. Christian X was pro-British and he often wrote to George V and I get the impression that he liked him.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 18, 2010, 07:40:41 AM
The royal couple

(http://i49.tinypic.com/1zbyqkk.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: kmerov on September 03, 2010, 10:47:22 AM
From Christian X's 25 jubilee on the throne in 1937.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/th_christian25r1937.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/Christian%20X%20and%20Alexandrine/christian25r1937.jpg)

My guess.
First Row, Haakon VII of Norway, Queen Alexandrine, Christian X and Gustav V of Sweden.
Second row, Prince Carl of Sweden, Crown Princess Ingrid, Crown Prince Frederik (IX), and Princess Ingeborg.
Third row, Prince Valdemar, Grand Duchess Alexandra of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Grand Duke Friedrich Franz IV of M-S, Princess Caroline Mathilde, Prince Knud.
Fourth row, Princess Helena, Prince Harald, not sure too blurry, Prince George of Greece, and Prince Gustav.
Fifth row, ?, Princess Margareta, Prince Axel, ?, Princess Margrethe and Prince René of Bourbon-Parma.
In the small room. In the front Princess Aage, Count Christian of Rosenborg, ?,?.
The back row includes Prince and Princess Viggo, and the two sons of Axel and Margareta.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 06, 2010, 12:42:15 PM
Christian and Alexandrine

(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/759/62717486.jpg) (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/62717486.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Rani on November 06, 2010, 01:04:33 PM
Christian and Alexandrine

(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/759/62717486.jpg) (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/62717486.jpg/)

 

Okaay, she looks a little bit odd.
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Rani on November 06, 2010, 05:32:09 PM
(http://b.bimg.dk/node-images/409/2/608x403-c/2409744-margrethe-som-pkldningsdukke.jpg)

With granddaughter Margrethe
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 15, 2011, 01:29:13 PM
Wanna read some nonsense??

http://valdemarshdatter2.webs.com/aliasmargrethemopezat.htm/

There s a ´picture of Christian with Crownprincess Martha of Norway labeled as "Christian and a PROSTITUTE"!!!. What a disrespectful lunatic creep
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Svetabel on December 05, 2011, 01:33:43 PM
Future Christian IX and his relatives. George of Greece, Princess Alexandra of Wales, behind them at back Prince Waldemar of Denmark and not sure who's that guy on the George's back.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/dane.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: miki_nastya on January 01, 2012, 10:07:29 AM
 What a charming picture...they all seem to have so much fun in the holidays speed in Denmark...
 
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 30, 2014, 08:53:26 PM
Christian, Alexandrine and her mother Grand Duchess Anastasia
(http://www.royalbooks.se/static/webimages//rdqcz6.jpg)
royalbooks.se
Title: Re: Christian X & Queen Alexandrine
Post by: Joanna on September 28, 2016, 10:24:45 AM
Nicholas II’s Curiosity – Sorgenfri Slot, Denmark

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2016/09/nicholas-iis-curiosity-sorgenfrei.html

Joanna