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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Habsburgs => Topic started by: Svetabel on July 15, 2012, 07:48:45 AM

Title: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Svetabel on July 15, 2012, 07:48:45 AM
Here's Part V.

Actually I'd like to close all threads on the Empress as nothing new has been said on her, always only the same topics. But I do understand the posters who want to continue the discussion (and the pictures, of course) and here's a new Part on Elisabeth. Possibly some new info is coming...

Please don't repeat the pictures and discussions. Soon the previous 4 Parts will be moderated again and I hope 30-50 pages of each Part come to end.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 09, 2012, 02:06:47 PM
Empress Sissi with Ferenc Deak, it is located at Gödöllo Palace. Is a really nice surprise to see that it is really a painting, the verssions that I saw of it before suggested that it was just a print!! If I'm not wrong it has been recently in restoration.
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/sissideak.jpg)

Click here for bigger!! (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/sissideak.jpg)

Source: lenolaj.hu

Better verssion of this?
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Royals/Capturasss.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 10, 2012, 12:37:44 PM
Sissi and her namesake granddaughter Elisabeth "Ella", eldest daughter of Archduchess Marie Valerie
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/sissiGrandma.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: dboro on August 10, 2012, 07:31:22 PM
Empress Sissi with Ferenc Deak, it is located at Gödöllo Palace. Is a really nice surprise to see that it is really a painting, the verssions that I saw of it before suggested that it was just a print!! If I'm not wrong it has been recently in restoration.

Click here for bigger!! (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/sissideak.jpg)

Source: lenolaj.hu

Better verssion of this?
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Royals/Capturasss.jpg)

Yes, you're right. After the restoration it will be exhibited in the Gödöllő palace.
One more pic:
(http://kiralyikastely.humantelex.hu/media/kepek/153.jpg)

(http://www.ng.hu/Foto/Cikkkepek/2012/05/0518_erzsebetgodollo/1.jpg?NodeProperty=SizeLarge)

(http://www.ng.hu/Root/Sites/NationalGeographic/Foto/Cikkkepek/2012/05/0518_erzsebetgodollo/DCAM9857.jpg)

Read more here:
http://www.ng.hu/Civilizacio/2012/05/erzsebet_godollo (http://www.ng.hu/Civilizacio/2012/05/erzsebet_godollo)
Sorry, sorry, it's in Hungarian. Maybe I'll write a longer post about the panting later...
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on August 11, 2012, 05:33:25 PM
WOW! I open this thread to find some real gems being posted, thanks so much for posting. It great to see that the painting Yelena posted is in restoration.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 03, 2012, 03:34:33 PM
Thank you for the other views of Sissi's mourning portrait!!  :) Hope that you can give more info about the painting!
Sissi and family
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/familyportrait.jpg)

Source: ÖNB
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on September 03, 2012, 04:05:44 PM
I cannot see what you just posted....strange! :(

I did a google translation on that article, and have got a rough idea of what it is trying to explain (so excuse some wrong grammar!)....

"2012th May 17, at noon in the Hungarian National Gallery building B, the so-called. blind to the huge frame was crucified, about five feet high, three and a half feet wide screen image. The National Museum of artworks owned by the revival after the Royal Palace issued. The plan will be a remarkable place, as the royal family's life will be located in a permanent exhibition.

The restoration was a big help to start the U.S. $ 1.4 million grant application by the Royal Palace operating company, in November 2011, won the National Cultural Museum Professional Kollégiumtól. The amount, however, is only the first renewal of the painting, conservation works on enough so that the authorities hope to continue to obtain the necessary financial support.

Ferenc Deák, the "wise man" died in January 1876. His body was in the ground floor lobby of the Hungarian Academy of ravatalozták, where I paid my tribute to Queen Elizabeth, also a wreath on his knees and prayed descending.

The next day, news of events in the press about cikkeztek that this pathetic scene would capture the poetic and picturesque manner. Trefort Augustine Religion and Education Minister instructed Mihály Zichy (1827-1906) painter, paintings capture a representative to the event.

Living in Paris at that time was not present Zichy Deak's funeral, but it can create a true image, traveled to Budapest. He met with the queen to make a sketch of it and have seen the event wore mourning, the funeral bier of the company was rebuilt in its original location. The artist has captured the moment in the painting, as the queen placing wreaths on the grave.

Mihaly Zichy Paris a year later he sent the picture, but is not shown to the public, because the artist has a cypress branch ráfestette is what Abraham Lincoln said Deak sent to the grave. This was unacceptable to the royal court, so Zichy had to paint the picture.

Completed in the summer of 1877 the "improved version" of Queen Elizabeth and the Deak Ferenc bier his oil paintings placed sixth in the National Museum Gallery hall, known as the Habsburg room for compromise as a symbol of continuity.

A picture of a time of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences issued, and then disappeared from public view. Deteriorated over time painting, now in the National Gallery's store was kept wrapped in a cylinder. History is history, art history information intended to convey ideas, which transfer to the museum's mission is Gödöllő."
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: dboro on September 03, 2012, 06:26:47 PM
original state

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/zichy.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 04, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
Jen, couldn't you see the last pic that I posted? I can see it perfectly, but I was looking that photobucket is having some problems since the last weekend, and among these problems many images can appear as missing, in fact, I'm having problems with my two accounts, but I expect that into a few days you can see the pic  ;)

Thank you very much for the translation, the story of that painting is really interesting, is quite nice to know that the painter in fact saw the Empress and then portrayed her -it means that the image of Sissi didn't come just of his imagination as in many of later portraits of Sissi- I didn't know that M. Zichy did it, he was an excellent artist!
Thank you dboro for the original state of the painting, it got really damaged with the time! Happily it is now in restoration!!

1) Modern portrait of Empress Sissi: here!!! (http://erzsebet.gportal.hu/portal/erzsebet/image/ljkilj.bmp)

Source: erzsebet.gportal.hu

2) Miniature of Empress Sissi (http://www.antiques-delaval.com/en/miniature/566-elisabeth-bavaria-painted-miniature-of-the-empress-sissi-19th.html), although IMO she doesn't look much as her
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on September 04, 2012, 05:04:15 PM
Now I can see it! It is a nice picture/family portrait! Thanks! I agree the minature does not look much like her, but it is nice and the hair looks like the hair she had in that familiar painting.

No problem! Yes, it most definitely is nice to know he saw the empress and didn't imagine the painting. Makes the painting seem more 'real' if you understand me.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 05, 2012, 01:10:44 PM
Sure, the miniature was based on Winterhalter's portrait but the artist didn't do a good job with Sissi's face :-/

Hungarian print
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/card1.jpg)
Title: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Lucien on September 10, 2012, 01:49:49 AM

Today marks the 114th anniversary of the death of the Empress.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 09, 2012, 02:49:54 PM
The Empress arriving to Paris, year 1882

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/1882SissiParis-1.jpg)

Source: tipsimages.it
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 09, 2012, 03:05:34 PM
If Elisabeth saw this image, i bet she fainted cause she looks ....curvy, thing that the empress hated !
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on November 15, 2012, 05:43:38 PM
I agree with the above! The Empress' waist was so tiny, couldn't believe it when I saw the photo of her dress.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: cebi26 on November 24, 2012, 05:11:57 PM
How wealthy was the Empress family in Bavaria? Also, did her "pedigree" seemed enough for the Austrian Court?
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 26, 2012, 02:55:13 PM
Two new images of Sissi and Franz:
Time ago I posted a close up of this but is really nice to find the full one... Visiting Venice (from the French blog elisabethdautriche.fr, enlarged and edited by me)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/AtVenice.jpg)
Bigger here! (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/AtVenice.jpg)

Another:
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/SisiyFranz1.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on November 26, 2012, 04:15:27 PM
Lovely finds. Really like the Venice one in particular!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 03, 2012, 01:21:51 PM
Glad you like them Jen!!!  :) A pair new, well these are close ups from old photos of the Habsburg family -with very interesting portraits on the background I must say!-, I expect to see them in color and better quality one day. I expect they still exist -I know many stuff was destroyed during the World Wars-... possibly the Habsburg family still owns them.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/th_BW.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/?action=view&current=BW.jpg)  (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/th_portraitbw.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/?action=view&current=portraitbw.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on December 05, 2012, 04:15:14 AM
What a find!! I really hope those turn up in better quality. There could be a chance that the Habsburg family own them.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 16, 2012, 06:23:42 AM
Hi folks!

I d like to know which book of Robert Massie has this image mislabeled as "Empress Elisabeth in her deathbed". We all know its an scene from Elisabeth´s first film (1921)

Here s the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbRg7ZzBWvQ&playnext=1&list=PL2D6EE728D323C952&feature=results_video

The image

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4714/empresselizabetofaustri.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/empresselizabetofaustri.jpg/)


The questions is because a girl on D.A has this image as stock image on her page. I kindly corrected her saying it wasnt Sissi, but an scene of a movie. She had a trainwreck and send me to confront Robert Massie because in HIS book this image appeared as the real empress in her deathbed (even tho i sent her a link of the video).

Here the lil argument (from her side cause i never wanted to start it)

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/6144/ljgou.jpg

So , now im curious to know which book of Massie has such a mistake (and if that mostake, nowadays, have an erratum). Thanks in advanced!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: aor on December 16, 2012, 07:25:16 AM
I would suggest to this girl, that women in 1898 did NOT wear dark eye shadow....... ::) I would not waste time convincing her to the authenticity of this well known 'image'.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 16, 2012, 07:27:31 AM
i wont do it anymore since she s so stubborn and rude , but im curious about what she said about Robert Massie. I cant believe he made such a mistake labeling that image as the real Kaiserin Elisabeth in her deathbed 0_o
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Veronica on December 16, 2012, 01:42:58 PM
Hola!

The book is "The last Courts of Europe. A Royal Family Album 1860-1914". But Robert Massie only wrote the introduction. The picture research and descriptions are by Jeffrey Finestone.

THe photo is spread in pages 88-89, and the description says "Empress Elisabeth on her deathbed, 10 September 1898. She was assassinated at Geneva while boarding a boat - stabbed in the chest, she nevertheless continued walking but collapsed some moments later".

The photo was reproduced by permission of Roger Violet, Paris.

I hope this helps ;-)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 16, 2012, 02:44:32 PM
Thanks, Vero! i knew Robert Massie wouldnt commit such a big mistake!.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 24, 2012, 12:14:20 PM
If this mistake is in a book I now can understand why it frequently appears in some sites where people firmly believe that the woman is actually the Empress in her deathbed :-/

Happy 175th Birthday for the Empress Sissi!!

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Perlinskiy90/Collages/th_SissiBday175.jpg) (http://s790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/Perlinskiy90/Collages/?action=view&current=SissiBday175.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 24, 2012, 01:31:36 PM
Very, very pretty collage! :) A tremendously interesting and beautiful woman was born 175 years ago today, and may she rest in peace!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on December 24, 2012, 05:49:06 PM
How beautiful!

Happy 175th birthday to the beautiful Empress Sissi!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 28, 2012, 12:58:16 PM
Thank you ladies!!  :)
From the hungarian site index.hu, modern portrait of the Empress
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/ModernPortrait.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on January 01, 2013, 09:15:43 PM
Funny how she was indeed very slim however her dresses during the 1850s to early 1870 made her look curvy! lol
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on January 02, 2013, 11:45:15 AM
Funny how she was indeed very slim however her dresses during the 1850s to early 1870 made her look curvy! lol

I was thinking the same thing actually!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 09, 2013, 01:21:19 PM
The young Empress of Austria, 1854  *****Credits on the image*****
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/KSissi.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: miki_nastya on January 15, 2013, 04:39:09 PM
 This poem by Romanian poet Mihai Eminescu always made me think about Sisi 
   
One Wish Alone Have I

One wish alone have I:
          In some calm land
Beside the sea to die;
          Upon its strand
That I forever sleep,
          The forest near,
          A heaven near,
Stretched over the peaceful deep.
          No candles shine,
Nor tomb I need, instead
Let them for me a bed
          Of twigs entwine.

That no one weeps my end,
          Nor for me grieves,
But let the autumn lend
          Tongues to the leaves,
When brooklet ripples fall
          With murmuring sound,
          And moon is found
Among the pine-trees tall,
          While softly rings
The wind its trembling chime
And over me the lime
          Its blossom flings.

As I will then no more
          A wanderer be,
Let them with fondness store
          My memory.
And Lucifer the while,
          Above the pine.
          Good comrade mine,
Will on me gently smile;
          In mournful mood,
The sea sings sad refrain ...
And I be earth again
          In solitude.

 
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on January 15, 2013, 09:00:09 PM
Beautiful and haunting...and it does seem very fitting for Sisi.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on January 16, 2013, 05:14:37 AM
I agree, it is haunting and does remind me of Sisi a little.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on January 29, 2013, 07:12:31 PM
Sorry to double post but stumbled across this beautiful image of The Empress on Tumblr. New to me. Not sure if anyone has seen this?

http://bulletproofjewels.tumblr.com/image/41826990098 (http://bulletproofjewels.tumblr.com/image/41826990098)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Veronica on January 29, 2013, 09:57:18 PM
Yes, it's new. It's by the photographer Joseph Albert and is being auctioned in February.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on January 30, 2013, 04:26:04 AM
Yes, it's new. It's by the photographer Joseph Albert and is being auctioned in February.

Interesting. Thank you for new information!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Veronica on January 30, 2013, 05:26:38 PM
You're welcome.
The photo is from the same session as this one, taken in 1860:

(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u501/Patriciavv/2-61860_zps18da5f4f.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 31, 2013, 04:52:33 PM
Sorry to double post but stumbled across this beautiful image of The Empress on Tumblr. New to me. Not sure if anyone has seen this?

http://bulletproofjewels.tumblr.com/image/41826990098 (http://bulletproofjewels.tumblr.com/image/41826990098)

(X_X) WOW!!! Thank you very much for posting it Jen!!! What beautiful photo, Sissi looks great on it!!  :o Is always great to find new photos of Sissi, there are not very much even of her youth! (or not as much as the ones that we have of other royals) Thank you again!!! Any idea if this was taken by Rabending too?
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on February 01, 2013, 10:54:47 AM
Sorry to double post but stumbled across this beautiful image of The Empress on Tumblr. New to me. Not sure if anyone has seen this?

http://bulletproofjewels.tumblr.com/image/41826990098 (http://bulletproofjewels.tumblr.com/image/41826990098)

(X_X) WOW!!! Thank you very much for posting it Jen!!! What beautiful photo, Sissi looks great on it!!  :o Is always great to find new photos of Sissi, there are not very much even of her youth! (or not as much as the ones that we have of other royals) Thank you again!!! Any idea if this was taken by Rabending too?

No problem, it's a gorgeous photo, it appeared on my tumblr dash and I knew I had to post it here! Not sure how old she is though. And Veronica says it by the photographer Joseph Albert :)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on February 01, 2013, 12:32:40 PM
You're totally right!!! I didn't notice that the name of the photographer was already posted!  :-[

Family postrait, saved from a Hungarian site
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/SissiFranzGisiRudi_zps2de2a323.jpg)

A bit different protrait of Sissi, this was made by Wilhelm Ritcher
*****Credits for the image: bmi.gv.at*****
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/th_amazonaSissi_zps66e5c6a8.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/?action=view&current=amazonaSissi_zps66e5c6a8.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Princess Susan on February 16, 2013, 05:48:06 AM
(http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s590/hillviewroad/Oldphotos/BIG_0007964706_zps8b81db97.jpg)

The nice sculpture of the Imperial couple and FJ's parents. Does anybody know, who is a child on emperor's arms? I suppose, it might be Sophie or Rudolf.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 16, 2013, 09:08:25 AM
Or gisela ;-)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on February 16, 2013, 06:28:20 PM
Personally I believe that the baby in FJ's arms must be Rudolph (you know, he was the expected heir), I doubt that this can be any of the Archduchesses... but who knows :-?
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Princess Susan on February 17, 2013, 05:39:16 AM
I thought the same (because Rudolph was the heir), but Sophie was their first child. But probably you are right and the baby is Rudolph. ;)
Title: Association and Website about Empress Elisabeth
Post by: Kaiserin Sissi on February 23, 2013, 09:20:48 AM
Good Evening,
 
I am happy to share with you the Official opening of the Association "Elisabeth Empress of Austria - Queen of Hungary (Sissi)".
 
Here the website of the Association :
 
http://www.elisabethdautriche.fr/
 
Good reaging and maybe soon
 
 
                                                    Mme Delphine Martin - President of the Association

Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on February 23, 2013, 05:00:01 PM
Have had a little look at the site. Even though most of it is in French, the site looks great and I love the layout :)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on February 26, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
Wonderful site KaiserinSissi, it was full of surprises for me!!! Thanks for sharing, finally I could find some press illustrations that I've been looking for a while!! The paper dolls are superb and quite creative! (X_X) As well as many new images! I believe that the Wittelsbach lady of the -new!!!- photo (the one with the dark crinoline dress wearing a hat) must be Sissi, but is true that there waas a strong resemblance among the sisters.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 26, 2013, 04:26:26 PM
Actually, i found that image in my archives, most probably from an auction site (it was tiny, i enlarged and enhanced it), but in the description said nothing about the Id of that lady. I supposed it was Sissi and asked to a dear friend to post it in a Italian forum about Sissi.

It looks a lot like her but who knows ;-)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on February 27, 2013, 06:45:06 AM
Thanks for posting a pic of that sculpture! The baby, in my opinion, could be any one of the royal babies, but Rudolph is likely.

Agreed with Yelena, all the sisters did look alike!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: THERRY on March 11, 2013, 04:17:55 AM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/eqnzhe.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 07, 2013, 01:22:29 PM
From a Hungarian site: Empress Sissi at an event -with Franz Joseph and little Rudolph-
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/empressSissievent_zpsa66d0193.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingSissi/empressSissievent_zpsa66d0193.jpg.html)
Here a bit bigger!! (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/empressSissievent_zpsa66d0193.jpg)

From a Russian site: an allegory of the Hungarian millenium -I think-, I'm not sure if the lady sitting at the right is Sissi (she looks a lot like her) considering that one of the men at left looks a lot like Gyula Andrassy 
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/allegory_zpsc9508454.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingSissi/allegory_zpsc9508454.jpg.html)
Here much bigger!! (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/allegory_zpsc9508454.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on May 08, 2013, 06:37:25 AM
I particulary like the first one you posted, Yelena! Thanks for posting!

Therry, that's a great photo, thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 20, 2013, 01:44:05 PM
*****The next images belong to the Hungarian site keptar.oszk.hu, the credits are for it*****

The Emperor and Empress, 1857 (ih the carriage)

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/EmpressAndEmperor_zpsfc67a6df.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/EmpressAndEmperor_zpsfc67a6df.jpg.html)

Here a bit bigger!! (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/EmpressAndEmperor_zpsfc67a6df.jpg)

The Empress at an event, 1866 (clearly based in her famous photoshoot with her dog Shadow!!!)

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/EmpressElisabeth_zpsccb2c11f.jpg)

Here a bit bigger!! (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/EmpressElisabeth_zpsccb2c11f.jpg)

The Empress at Crown Prince Rudolph's grave

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/EmpressSissiAtRudisGrave_zps18aa6593.jpg)

Here a bit bigger!! (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/EmpressSissiAtRudisGrave_zps18aa6593.jpg)
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Post by: Jen_94 on June 20, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
Those are amazing, especially that last one. They're drawings aren't they?
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 21, 2013, 11:51:04 AM
Yes, they're drawings. And according to the site (better to say, according to the translator), the artist was Bertalan Székely (the last by Imre Revesz). If I'm not wrong these lovely drawings were  illustrations of a newspaper.
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Post by: Jen_94 on June 23, 2013, 01:16:06 PM
They're absolutely beautiful!  I'm most partial to the second one.

I'm just looking at that website now. Some of Székely's works are stunning.
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 25, 2013, 03:23:41 PM
The Queen in the Buda hills, sorry for the size and quality of the image, that was the most I could enlarge it without damaging the quality of the pic.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/TheQueenInTheBudaHills_zpsf4d6eba2.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/TheQueenInTheBudaHills_zpsf4d6eba2.jpg.html)
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Post by: Jen_94 on June 25, 2013, 03:24:51 PM
Another newspaper image! It's amazing how much the looks of newspapers and magazines have changed since then. 

You do find some good Gems, Yelena!
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Post by: Kaiserin Sissi on June 29, 2013, 12:45:30 PM
Many thanks to you for your comments about my website  :)
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Post by: Jen_94 on June 30, 2013, 05:27:58 AM
Many thanks to you for your comments about my website  :)

You're welcome! Definitely a great website.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 02, 2013, 01:45:02 PM
Jen, I must say that Hungarian old press is full of wonderful surprises and jewels!! :-)

Alice of Hesse posted a photo of this superb painting time ago (in the fourth part of the thread), but after a long time I finally could get a better verssion of it. I enlarged it the most I could without damaging it. I adore this portrait!!! (X_X)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/ElisabettaSttuning_zps5e2eed4b.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/ElisabettaSttuning_zps5e2eed4b.jpg.html)

A commemorative millenium card. Is funny to see that Sissi is always portrayed young despite the time that has passed, FJ looks more than her father than actually than her husband!! :-S
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/milleniumCard_zps9113768e.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/milleniumCard_zps9113768e.jpg.html)
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 02, 2013, 02:06:32 PM
I definitely think I'll have a look through there then!

That is a beautiful painting and one I have never seen before! It's a superb painting and certainly catches her beauty.

Isn't it just? I wonder why that was done?
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 05, 2013, 12:36:05 PM
I found a new portrait of  Sissi, it comes from the Italian forum Sissi-Ludwig. I adore the embroidery of her dress!!! (X_X)

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/SissiGoldDreamlikeGown_zps9c62658c.jpg)

Here bigger!!! (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/SissiGoldDreamlikeGown_zps9c62658c.jpg)

And an old print, this time in German old press. The empress visiting some hospital, I think. Enlarged by me.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/IsabelSissi1_zpsb9665697.jpg)

Here bigger!! (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/IsabelSissi1_zpsb9665697.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 06, 2013, 11:45:28 AM
Dorotheum had this one as young empress Elisabeth of Austria s portrait.

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4632/95s1303261952949155.jpg)
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 06, 2013, 05:16:52 PM
The embroidery on the first one you posted is stunning!

And I love the young portrait of her too!
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 06, 2013, 07:11:40 PM
When was it painted Carolath? I must say that it is really beautiful but the girl portrayed on it doesn't look very much -to me, of course- like the still childish Sissi of her first portraits and photo (she looks much better!) Although I think that she has indeed a Wittelsbach look. I tend to think that it was made time after and the artist used his imagination for making it. Anyways a really lovely surprise, thank you!!! :-)
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Post by: Princess Susan on July 07, 2013, 04:09:39 AM
Indeed very nice young portrait of her! Who is the author?
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 07, 2013, 03:47:48 PM
Unknown and with no date according Dorotheum :-(
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 07, 2013, 05:31:24 PM
Unknown and with no date according Dorotheum :-(

Oh that's a shame. I wonder how old she was though?
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 07, 2013, 05:57:07 PM
Sorry!! there was actually a date for this portrait , 1857

http://www.dorotheum.com/en/cn/auctions/auction-dates/current-auctions/kataloge/list-lots-detail/auktion/9943-easter-auction-art-und-antiques/lotID/96/lot/1473508-osterreichischer-monogrammist-a-s.html?no_cache=1&results=sold&cHash=c8cfea32e33688cf99aa41cb9888a4f9
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on July 08, 2013, 05:36:16 AM
So she would have been around 20 years old or so when this was painted then?
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 09, 2013, 11:35:54 AM
Thank you very much for the information!!! So, it was made in a early date. I thought it portrayed a teenager Sissi (for her hair style, still down) but it is actually depicting a 20 year old Sissi, that's why she doesn't look as her late teen portraits, she was changing and growing into the legendary beauty that she was!!
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 09, 2013, 02:14:33 PM
Thank you very much for the information!!! So, it was made in a early date. I thought it portrayed a teenager Sissi (for her hair style, still down) but it is actually depicting a 20 year old Sissi, that's why she doesn't look as her late teen portraits, she was changing and growing into the legendary beauty that she was!!

She did look young in that portrait didn't she? Easy to mistake it for a teenage Sissi for sure!
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Post by: Princess of Cupertino on July 10, 2013, 12:48:36 AM
I see Gisela in this portrait.

Dorotheum had this one as young empress Elisabeth of Austria s portrait.

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4632/95s1303261952949155.jpg)
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Post by: Greenowl on July 10, 2013, 07:52:00 AM
I agree, it reminds me more of Gisela than of her mother....could it be a mistake? It really looks different to any drawings or paintings I've seen of the young Elisabeth.

Cheers,
GREENOWL
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 10, 2013, 02:40:38 PM
I've looked at pics of Gisela and it does look fairly similar to her.

Just a question: did Gisela and Sissi look alike do you think?
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Post by: Greenowl on July 10, 2013, 05:06:33 PM
No, I don't think they looked alike...Empress Elisabeth would have been shocked at the mere idea, as she always considered that Gisela was not graceful and very clumsy. When Gisela's eldest daughter was born Elisabeth is supposed to have commented that her first grandchild was: "very noisy and ugly and looks just like Gisela !". Not very nice!
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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on July 10, 2013, 05:51:07 PM
In my opinion - I do think Gisela looked like a less pretty version of her mother the Empress Elisabeth and had her father the Emperor Franz Josef coloring and the “Hapsburg jaw”- a true Hapsburg Princess! Besides The Archduchess Gisela was a humble good person (also unlike her mother lived an uninteresting life), she may not have her mother’s famous beauty but she did have some prettiness about her like all women and in her youth she was quite pretty.

Also to me the Empress wasn’t that beautiful but indeed very pretty (however I seen prettier – not just in looks but also in personality) but alas she was obsessively vain over her vanity, extremely selfish person and such an Imperial brat! Which is a real turn off!

 For facts - The Empress did blame the death of her 2 year old eldest daughter Sophie on the baby Gisela which was immature and cruel of the young Empress, I can see why the Archduchess took control of the children from the start!
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Post by: Greenowl on July 11, 2013, 04:09:04 AM
While I don't accept that Gisela looked like a less pretty version of her mother the Empress Elisabeth (or at least I fail to see any great resemblance), I fully agree with everything else you say, especially that she was a good and humble good person and pretty in her youth. I looked back at old posts on the topic and was interested to note that someone commented several years ago that Gisela would have been considered very attractive in the early 1960's as her features "fitted in" with the fashion of that era. 

The Empress was obsessively vain, extremely selfish and made a "cult" out of her beauty. The fact that she allowed no photos after the age of about 30 and always hid her face behind a parasol or fan meant that the only images available were those paintings and photos from her youth, which perpetuated the legend of her beauty. Her assassin is supposed to have stated that he expected her to be beautiful, but in fact she was ugly. Seemingly her skin was affected by the ravages of time and excessive outdoor physical activity, thus she became very wrinkled and old-looking. Seems difficult to imagine, but makes sense, as she was almost 61 years old at the time of her assassination. 
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 11, 2013, 06:13:27 AM
Ah, thank you for your answers. I'm just beginning to learn a little more about Gisela right now. I can't believe that the Empress blamed Sophie's death on Gisela, that is just cruel of her to do that.

I am just looking at that famous last photo of the empress and her lady in waiting in Switzerland, yes, she did not seemed to have aged that well at all. Some people do look naturally good for their age at 60, some don't, and I'm guessing Elisabeth was probably one of those who didn't. 
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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on July 11, 2013, 11:27:50 AM
I think also a reason why Empress Elisabeth ignored Gisela was because that she was raised by her grandmother the Archduchess Sophie and to the Empress, the archduchess was her rival and “somewhat imagine”  enemy for her husband the Emperor’s affections also to the fact that Gisela wasn’t a beauty and that the Empress was  vain over looks. 

Think of this that you’re a vain pretty and young Empress of a powerful empire, known throughout the world as “one of the most beautiful and graceful women in the world” and while it most is a thorn to your side that your own daughter is a plain and clumsy child, must have annoyed the Empress Elisabeth!

 My idea of the Empress thought of her daughter Gisela as just a second archduchess Sophie that’s a plain little girl compeer to her beauty and responsible for her sister’s death. Very unfair of the Empress.  Secondly when Gisela was small she favored her grandmother over her mother which also possibly hurt the Empress which made their relationship strained for life and completely ignore Gisela. Again very mean Sisi!

Also to the fact that Empress Elisabeth thought her mother-in-law was ‘an in-law from hell types’ however to the Archduchess and in my opinion was right about Elisabeth’s immaturity and lack her role as Empress, which of course isn’t truly Elisabeth’s or anyone’s fault.  Totally one of those “stuff happens”.
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 11, 2013, 12:06:46 PM
*Personally I can't look Gisela on that portrait, IMO she looks much Wittelsbach and Gisela didn't take (IMO) very much of that side, she's more a Habsburg to me.

Quote
I can see why the Archduchess took control of the children from the start!

*I disagree in this topic a bit: Although she at least wasn't much better than the immature Sissi (I won't deny the fact that she wasn't prepared to take the role of Empress, wife and mother) despite her "experience". The Arduchess Sophie also commited big mistakes with her grandchildren, mainly with little Rudolph, when she appointed that awful tutor that she choosed and who wasn't the best option for the child. I think that she choosed to take the control of the kids since the begining for her domineering personality, not in vain she was considered the "real empress" on her time. She wanted all could be done as she said, she wanted to control everything. Although the topic isn't about Sophie, so I end here.

*About Sissi in old age: I also think that her extreme fast (she survived just with a few milk glasses and meat bouillon for many years) didn't help her to age well, possibly that made her to look much more old and damaged than she really was, well, just my thought. There aren't much photos of her (in good quality) of that time, but I agree with Jen, in her last photo of Switzerland she looks much (badly different) different than in her youth photos and that's why she became obssesed of not being seen or photographed because the myth of her beauty would have faded.
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 11, 2013, 01:06:03 PM
Would another reason that the Empress ignored Gisela be was because she wasn't a boy? Like, she was disappointed she had another girl and wanted an heir-a son after having Sophie? Just a thought that ran through my mind....

For facts - The Empress did blame the death of her 2 year old eldest daughter Sophie on the baby Gisela which was immature and cruel of the young Empress, I can see why the Archduchess took control of the children from the start!

Why did she blame the death of Sophie on Gisela? Just curious.
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 11, 2013, 01:47:18 PM
Would another reason that the Empress ignored Gisela be was because she wasn't a boy? Like, she was disappointed she had another girl and wanted an heir-a son after having Sophie? Just a thought that ran through my mind....

I don't think so, in honor of the truth she wasn't either much warm with her only son Rudolph (and this despite that the boy admired and adored his mother very much). In general she wasn't a warm and loving mother with her older kids. The only child who was loved by Sissi (in fact, she was overprotective with her) was the youngest, Marie Valerie, IMO because she was the only that she could care personally. I don't see on her any other outstanding characteristic in her rather than in her siblings.

Why did she blame the death of Sophie on Gisela? Just curious.

I think that Sissi considered that Gisela was guilty of her sister's death at being she the one who got sick first during that trip to Hungary, finally she infected Sophie of the same illness (diarrhea and fever). Gisela recovered but Sophie died after several days, in some place I read that Sophie tended to be unhealthy. After the death of the girl, Sissi blamed herself too for taking the girls with her not minding that her mother in law adviced her of not doing that because the girls haven't been much well, but in the other side she considered that her 1 year old daughter was responsible too!! :-/
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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on July 11, 2013, 02:19:36 PM
*Personally I can't look Gisela on that portrait, IMO she looks much Wittelsbach and Gisela didn't take (IMO) very much of that side, she's more a Habsburg to me.

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I can see why the Archduchess took control of the children from the start!

*I disagree in this topic a bit: Although she at least wasn't much better than the immature Sissi (I won't deny the fact that she wasn't prepared to take the role of Empress, wife and mother) despite her "experience". The Arduchess Sophie also commited big mistakes with her grandchildren, mainly with little Rudolph, when she appointed that awful tutor that she choosed and who wasn't the best option for the child. I think that she choosed to take the control of the kids since the begining for her domineering personality, not in vain she was considered the "real empress" on her time. She wanted all could be done as she said, she wanted to control everything. Although the topic isn't about Sophie, so I end here.


Indeed, I do agree on that, the Archduchess Sophie may have not been better then the Empress at raising children - but at least the Archduchess was loving and affectionate to Gisela unlike the Empress. Ironically though with the Archduchess raising the children it did start the strain relationships between the Empress with Gisela and Rudolf.

but when the Empress DID get her way with her children’s upbringing, she completely ignored Gisela and favored Rudolf (sadly the damage of the ruthless tutor had already been done AND the Archduchess was wrong on that topic!) but kept her distance since the Empress known the children prefer their grandmother and later favored over her youngest Marie Valerie while ignoring Rudolf.

My question is if the Empress did raise her children from the start and little Sophie whom got ill from Gisela and died, will the Empress still blame the baby for the death of her eldest? Possibly so and would ignore Gisela still!
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 11, 2013, 04:17:31 PM
Would another reason that the Empress ignored Gisela be was because she wasn't a boy? Like, she was disappointed she had another girl and wanted an heir-a son after having Sophie? Just a thought that ran through my mind....

I don't think so, in honor of the truth she wasn't either much warm with her only son Rudolph (and this despite that the boy admired and adored his mother very much). In general she wasn't a warm and loving mother with her older kids. The only child who was loved by Sissi (in fact, she was overprotective with her) was the youngest, Marie Valerie, IMO because she was the only that she could care personally. I don't see on her any other outstanding characteristic in her rather than in her siblings.

Ah I understand now. That is a shame she wasn't warm towards Rudolph, when he was towards her and that he adored her too.
 
Why did she blame the death of Sophie on Gisela? Just curious.

I think that Sissi considered that Gisela was guilty of her sister's death at being she the one who got sick first during that trip to Hungary, finally she infected Sophie of the same illness (diarrhea and fever). Gisela recovered but Sophie died after several days, in some place I read that Sophie tended to be unhealthy. After the death of the girl, Sissi blamed herself too for taking the girls with her not minding that her mother in law adviced her of not doing that because the girls haven't been much well, but in the other side she considered that her 1 year old daughter was responsible too!! :-/

Oh that is sad. It's such a shame when a child that young dies, isn't it? If Sophie tended to be unhealthy, perhaps she simply just had a weak immune system then.
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 23, 2013, 12:44:09 PM
Found these in two different sites of facebook devoted to the Empress. Both images are enlarged and edited by me.

1) The horsewoman
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/horsewoman11246_zpsacf66415.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/horsewoman11246_zpsacf66415.jpg.html)

Here for bigger! (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/horsewoman11246_zpsacf66415.jpg)

2) Dressed in Hungarian gown, sadly it is much damaged :-(
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/damagedportrait11_zps40bea471.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/damagedportrait11_zps40bea471.jpg.html)
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 30, 2013, 09:14:57 AM
Oh the second one is beautiful! Such a shame about the damage though! And the painting is beautiful, do you have a year for it?
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 30, 2013, 12:06:52 PM
...And the painting is beautiful, do you have a year for it?

I didn't find information about this in the site where I found it, neither I did in other where I saw the same painting. IMO it must be from the 1850's or early 1860's, the pouffy skirt seems to be a crinoline one, as well as the hairdo, she used to arrange her hair in that way at that time. Franz Joseph looks young too. Perhaps I can be wrong and it was made later.

******
From wikimedia commons: Satined glass in Linz (Austria) commemorating the 50th aniverssary of Empreror Franz Joseph´s reign, 1898 (It was made the same year of the Empress´death too!) The lady at the right is labeled as the Archduchess Gisela and the kids are possibly the Archduchess Gisela's kids. <Click on the image for bigger>

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/stainedglass_zpsf07a62e7.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/stainedglass_zpsf07a62e7.jpg.html)
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Post by: Jen_94 on July 31, 2013, 12:50:03 PM
...And the painting is beautiful, do you have a year for it?

I didn't find information about this in the site where I found it, neither I did in other where I saw the same painting. IMO it must be from the 1850's or early 1860's, the pouffy skirt seems to be a crinoline one, as well as the hairdo, she used to arrange her hair in that way at that time. Franz Joseph looks young too. Perhaps I can be wrong and it was made later.

******
From wikimedia commons: Satined glass in Linz (Austria) commemorating the 50th aniverssary of Empreror Franz Joseph´s reign, 1898 (It was made the same year of the Empress´death too!) The lady at the right is labeled as the Archduchess Gisela and the kids are possibly the Archduchess Gisela's kids. <Click on the image for bigger>

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/stainedglass_zpsf07a62e7.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/stainedglass_zpsf07a62e7.jpg.html)

Ah that's a shame you don't have an exact year for it! From my observation, I'd say perhaps early 1860's?

Gorgeous stained glass window! I love them, thanks for posting.
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 31, 2013, 05:42:26 PM
Jen, according this site is from 1854


"Kaiserin Elisabeth und Kaiser Franz Joseph zu Pferd, Zamnio, nach 1854"

http://www.guideslide.at/slides/slides/32-das_appartment_der_furstin

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Post by: Jen_94 on August 01, 2013, 07:07:01 PM
Thank you! Yelena was quite right when she said 1850's then. It's a nice painting.
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 02, 2013, 12:30:44 PM
Thank you for the date Carolath!

A portrait based on her famous photoshoot with dog Shadow
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/shadowSissi_zps730737bc.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/shadowSissi_zps730737bc.jpg.html)

Not a new one but a bit different verssion of this portrait, I wonder if it is a modern copy because the colors look much brighter than the ones of the first an more common one. (Click on the image for bigger!)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/KaiserinSissi_zps8c5c0e8b.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/KaiserinSissi_zps8c5c0e8b.jpg.html)
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Post by: Jen_94 on August 07, 2013, 07:43:59 AM
Oh I do like the first one! I think I remember seeing the photo that was based on?
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Post by: KarlandZita on August 26, 2013, 04:56:06 PM
Portrait with a dog, 1875 :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/5182341875.png) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=5182341875.png)
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 09, 2013, 11:52:22 AM
From pinterest, Empress Sissi ca. 1860's by Franz Russ (I think that after 1867, it seems to be based in one of her Hungarian coronation photos )

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/Sissi_new_zpscb61fa1f.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/Sissi_new_zpscb61fa1f.jpg.html)
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 10, 2013, 12:03:21 PM
There s actually two portrait which were on action . The other one, by the same artits was one of Franz Josef

Here the page who had it on auction

http://www.imkinsky.com/de/app/direktverkauf/19-jahrhundert_98-1?rows=45


And here to see the other portrait

http://lemaldusiecle.tumblr.com/post/67945904691/carolathhabsburg-portraits-of-kaiser-franz
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 23, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
Illustration of the official visit of the Russian Imperial Couple to Austria, 1896:  Franz Joseph with Empress Alexandra and behind them Nicholas II with a lady.... is she supposed to be Empress Sissi? She reminds me a lot  Archduchess Stephanie rather than Sissi. Any idea??

<Click on the image for bigger>

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/AlixatVienna_zpsb235b0e4.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/AlixatVienna_zpsb235b0e4.jpg.html)


****Copyright of the image: Peter Crawford****

>>>Thanks Carolath for FJ's portrait by Franz Russ!! :-)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 23, 2013, 01:28:10 PM
no I think your right, its Crown Princess Stephanie!

 the Empress Elisabeth was more anti-social then the shy and nervous Russian Empress! And was possibly out and about doing her own thing.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: KarinK on December 23, 2013, 02:14:49 PM
According to Sophie Buxhoeveden, Elisabeth was in Vienna (the visit isn't mentioned in the Elisabeth biography I have, but it might have been considered too minor to be included): "The Empress Elizabeth of Austria, who had quite retired from Court after the tragic death of her son, the Crown Prince Rudolph, came especially to Vienna to welcome the young Empress and was exceedingly kind to her. This was the only time they ever met. Both the Emperor and the Empress fell immediately under the spell of the Empress Elizabeth's romantic personality, and never forgot the picture of loveliness she made at the State dinner at the Hofburg which took place, by the way, at five P.M., as the Emperor Franz Josef had remained faithful to the hour of his young days. The Empress Elizabeth had retained her great beauty. She was all in black, and her glorious thick hair had still kept its deep brown colour." Maybe that is meant to be her in the illustration even though it's not a great likeness?

This is supposed to be a photo of Alexandra and Elisabeth:

(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/KarinArt/Romanov/1896AlexandraElisabeth_zps8871e555.jpg) (http://s951.photobucket.com/user/KarinArt/media/Romanov/1896AlexandraElisabeth_zps8871e555.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 23, 2013, 03:36:53 PM
You're right KarinK!! I was checking a copy of Clara Tschudi biography about Sissi and found the next when she described the visit of the Emperor and Empress of Russia to Austria in 1896:
-I'll try to look for more information-

"The only time that she [Empress Elisabeth] appeared at a Court festivity after the death of her son, was on the occasion of the visit of the Tzar and Tzarina to Vienna, when her presence at the gala reception excited even more curiosity and interest than the sight of the Russian Imperial couple, and a sort of hushed reverence greeted her as she entered leaning on the arm of the Tzar. She was in deep mourning as usual, and bowed to all present with queenly dignity, looking at least twenty years younger than any of her contemporaries, in spite of the sorrows she had endured, which justified the title still due to her of " the loveliest woman of her Court."

If I'm not wrong, this official visit and the Hungarian Millenium celebration were the only official acts where she participated that year. I'm surprised to read that Sissi, in fact, entered leaning on the arm of Nicholas II, so it means that the lady portrayed is in fact Sissi (although she looks more like Stephanie, as Mandie and I said). I'm not sure if the Crown Princess Stephanie participated at that event.

Thank you for the photo Karin, is a great pity that it is too small and the ladies of the carraige can't be clearly seen :-(
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 24, 2013, 12:59:17 PM
One day like today but 176 years ago was born in Munich the Empress Sissi... Happy 176th birthday!!! XD

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/816879013_151891_zps66ddceaa.gif) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/816879013_151891_zps66ddceaa.gif.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: KarinK on December 26, 2013, 03:23:01 AM
I found another illustration of Nicholas and Alexandra's visit. Here Elisabeth looks more like herself.

(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/KarinArt/Romanov/1896NicholasAlexandraVienna_zps76b36494.jpg) (http://s951.photobucket.com/user/KarinArt/media/Romanov/1896NicholasAlexandraVienna_zps76b36494.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 26, 2013, 11:15:29 AM
I found another illustration of Nicholas and Alexandra's visit. Here Elisabeth looks more like herself.

You're right, on that illustration Sissi is much better portrayed!!! Anyways  I can see that the former Crown Princess Stephanie attended the event too, although for the description given by Tschudi she wasn't the lady who entered leaning on the Tsar's arm.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 27, 2013, 11:52:59 AM
Scene of the funeral of Empress Sissi, September 1898, at the Capuchins' Church <Click on the image for a better view>

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/Sissi1898_Capuchins_zpsdc3f2eb0.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/Sissi1898_Capuchins_zpsdc3f2eb0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 03, 2014, 02:24:13 PM
The one posted below finally in full size!!

Empress Sissi in Hungarian court gown, year 1875

 ***Source: www.thans.rs***

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/EmpressSissi_zps29b4f7fb.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/EmpressSissi_zps29b4f7fb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on February 21, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Death notice of Empress Sissi in American Press, date: September 11th, 1898. <<Click on the image for a better view>>

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/deathnotice_zpsb64c9119.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/deathnotice_zpsb64c9119.jpg.html)

Source: Library of Congress but posted on this blog: Streets of Salem (http://streetsofsalem.com/2013/04/)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 28, 2014, 02:01:07 PM
Posthumus portrait of Empress Sissi (according to the site 1899) as Queen of Hungary

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/SissiQueenHungary1899_zpsbaa38afa.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/SissiQueenHungary1899_zpsbaa38afa.jpg.html)

Source: Mosty (http://mosty-rsn.sk/obrateny-stol/)


From the Hungarian forum info.hu, Empress Sissi and Emperor Franz Joseph

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/SissiFranz_zps050c6a87.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/SissiFranz_zps050c6a87.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 28, 2014, 02:32:02 PM
*****The copyright of both images belongs to this site: fotomuveszet (http://www.fotomuveszet.net/korabbi_szamok/200901/kiralyi_oltozteto_babak?PHPSESSID=7ef7153b1b6b018e02a149338f3391ea)*****

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/14343_zps43cb114a.jpg)

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/123_zps46878f64.jpg)

Captions and full size in the original site, in Hungarian... Link at the top ^^
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on April 26, 2014, 01:51:50 PM
Beautiful lithography depicting a young Empress Sissi and Emperor Franz Joseph, source the ÖNB >> Click here (http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/Pages/ImageDetail.aspx?p_iBildID=10599659)

The next illustration appeared in the Neue Illustrirte Zeitung to commemorate the wedding of Crown Prince Rudolph and Princess Stephanie of Belgium. <<Credits in the image>>

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/SF_zpsea3914a0.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/SF_zpsea3914a0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 09, 2014, 11:42:22 PM
Elisabeth is one of my favorites!!!!

I fell in love with her after seeing the Sisi films with Romy Schneider. I know their not very accurate but they were my introduction to her and they made me look for more information on her such as the biographies by Brigitte Hamman and Joan Haslip. It's a real shame that her role in "Ludwig" was only a cameo and that she and Visconti didn't make a real Elisabeth biopic cause her performance in that was amazing too. I hope one day a filmmaker tells the true story (it would be great Oscar bait of any actress) and not just the fairytale although I doubt anyone could top Romy.

To me her Winterhalter portrait is like the Mona Lisa of royal portraits. It's so glamorous and portrays that famous fairytale but when you look at her face you end up with so many questions. Her smile is so mysterious and you can't help but be drawn to her. The fact that she stopped letting herself be photographed or painted after her 30s only adds to everything. The photo of her on horseback covering her face with the fan is just as amazing as the Winterhalter.

The whole legend/myth/truth is so compelling to me. One just wants to take the fan away and get a real good look at her. The stories about her intruding and staying over night in the homes of strangers is amazing and her views on getting old and retiring once one starts to feel it is sad. She clearly had mental problems and an eating disorder. Its a real shame they didn't have proper treatment for either back then. It definitely contributed to her erratic behavior and the split between herself and the world. Proper treatment would have certainly changed everything!  

I can understand why people don't like or get her but I actually sorry for her. She was extremely frustrating and could be really cruel but somehow I still end up sympathizing with her even if she was at times the cause of her own problems. She's really the poster child for people who appear to have everything yet are never happy. She just seemed so bitter, lost and misunderstood by everyone. She may not have been an intellectual but she was smarter then people gave her credit for and its a shame she never found a way to put it to use. She was never settling and always searching for something yet never found it.

Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 15, 2014, 01:14:37 PM
Two images of Empress Sissi, credits on both images ( source: Planet Vienna)

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/th_elisabeth_36_zps81be5849.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/elisabeth_36_zps81be5849.jpg.html)(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/th_elisabeth_24_zps9483169a.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/elisabeth_24_zps9483169a.jpg.html)

>>Click on the images for bigger<<
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 17, 2014, 11:39:01 AM
>>click on the images for bigger<<

The Empress hunting, source Alte Kunst, Click here for different views of the same painting (http://www.altekunst-vienna.com/frontend/scripts/index.php?groupId=0&productId=3526&setMainAreaTemplatePath=mainarea_productdetail.html&query=), by Wilhelm Richter.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/th_Richter_Kaiserliche_jagd_ful_zpsdad8aa16.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/Richter_Kaiserliche_jagd_ful_zpsdad8aa16.jpg.html)

Card commemorating Sissi's wedding, Source: zvab.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/weddingcard_zpsccc4f591.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/weddingcard_zpsccc4f591.jpg.html)

From the Hungarian forum info.hu

Modern painting of Sissi as Queen of Hungary
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/reinahungara_zpsf1d6de2e.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/reinahungara_zpsf1d6de2e.jpg.html)

In a carriage
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/carruaje_zpsf0aa8048.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/carruaje_zpsf0aa8048.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 17, 2014, 12:21:53 PM
Saved from the site info.hu, although they really come from the always great ÖNB, credits to it.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/two_zps0d31fd78.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/two_zps0d31fd78.jpg.html)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/one_zps3840d1f2.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/one_zps3840d1f2.jpg.html)

With Franz Joseph, young couple
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/four_zpsb1234e07.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/four_zpsb1234e07.jpg.html)

Both in older age.
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/three_zps4ce33997.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/three_zps4ce33997.jpg.html)

>>Click on the last image for bigger<<
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 17, 2014, 12:25:48 PM
The next three images come from the ÖNB, all credits and rights for it.

Never saw this in full.
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/sissi_zps632f2ad5.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissi_zps632f2ad5.jpg.html)

Franz Joseph and Sissi
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/fsss_zps25ec7581.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/fsss_zps25ec7581.jpg.html)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/sfff_zps9a334027.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/sfff_zps9a334027.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 21, 2014, 02:17:08 PM
I've never seen this one before. She looks pretty young and her hair doesn't appear that long.

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/d7bc743db25da1bd6064e15751d1b753/tumblr_mhexdmcRXc1qzjmo0o1_1280.jpg)

via melancholykaiserin on tumblr
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 21, 2014, 02:30:24 PM
Hungarian Portrait
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m30v6lDFHu1r2w95mo1_r1_1280.jpg)

bedroom at the Hermes Villa
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2pphnAfZz1rpbltbo1_1280.jpg)

gift from Archduchess Marie Valerie on Sisi's 47th birthday
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvv2r1CQYC1r5a8dho1_1280.jpg)

via empresstitania
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 30, 2014, 12:23:28 PM
Finally in good size and quality!!

Empress Sissi by Johann Nepomul Mayer, 1858.


(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/sissiportrait_zps3fe3e1ce.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissiportrait_zps3fe3e1ce.jpg.html)

<<Click on the image for bigger>>

I've never seen this one before. She looks pretty young and her hair doesn't appear that long.

Check at this thread, from post #35 to #38, you will find there another photo from this beautiful photosession.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Maria Sisi on July 30, 2014, 01:46:53 PM
Check at this thread, from post #35 to #38, you will find there another photo from this beautiful photosession.

Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I must have missed it the first time I went through the thread.

It certainly is beautiful, although she certainly would look even more so in a few years later.

Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 20, 2014, 12:14:22 PM
Images taken from the blog alzbeta-sisi.blog.cz

<<Click on the images for bigger>>

Empress Sissi and her son Crown Prince Rudolph in horseback

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/sissiother1_zps615a4c11.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/sissiother1_zps615a4c11.jpg.html)

Hunting

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/Sissiother2_zps0faf8f4c.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/Sissiother2_zps0faf8f4c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Marie Valerie on August 30, 2014, 12:33:00 PM
(http://www.residenzverlag.at/upload/titles/cover_1724.jpg)

The diary of Elisabeth's lady-in-waiting Countess Marie Festetics will be released in a few days in Germany
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Maria Sisi on August 30, 2014, 07:35:47 PM
If only I could read German!

I read "The Lonely Empress" and Brigitte Hamann quotes her quite a bit. I was absolutely engrossed when Marie was quoted, they revealed so much.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Oberon on September 13, 2014, 05:53:51 PM
file:///C:/Users/Ron/AppData/Local/Packages/microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe/LocalState/LiveComm/6f205e054fe1a96f/120712-0049/Att/20001290/images-1.jpeg
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Oberon on September 13, 2014, 05:58:08 PM
Pffffff.....new here, tried to post a picture but doesnt work... how do I post a picture????
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: wakas on September 14, 2014, 02:05:59 AM
Hi Oberon! In order to post a picture, you have to create an account on Photobucket, upload the photo there and then copy the link in your message here.
http://photobucket.com/
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Oberon on September 14, 2014, 08:12:59 AM
http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Oberon2512/media/55430299-65d3-44fc-affb-de52c40c2c57_zps981ebb73.png.html?state=copy]
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Oberon on September 14, 2014, 08:15:46 AM
Created an account on photobucket but still cannot post a picture.
I want to post a picture, not a link to a picture....grrrr

Maybe someone can place the picture, that I uploaded on photobucket, on this topic for me?
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Oberon on September 14, 2014, 08:37:40 AM
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/Oberon2512/OudereSisi_zpsff0dd023.png) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Oberon2512/media/OudereSisi_zpsff0dd023.png.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Oberon on September 14, 2014, 08:46:22 AM
IT WORKED!!!!!

I found this picture on a documentary about Elisabeth.
I'm very interested in the older empress. How did she look?
With a computer animation they have changed here face in how she looked probably at 60 years old.
She still looks amazing. I think she was too hard for herself...
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Maria Sisi on September 14, 2014, 12:57:26 PM
It does look fantastic for 60!

Although in my opinion it doesn't look like they took into account just how much she abused herself physically, which I'm sure would have effected her face quite a bit. I believe her face became very weather beaten due to all of her outdoor activity and her anorexia and extreme dieting didn't help matters either.   
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Oberon on September 14, 2014, 01:16:13 PM
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/Oberon2512/totenmaske_zps96f2712f.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Oberon2512/media/totenmaske_zps96f2712f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Oberon on September 14, 2014, 01:17:59 PM
Maybe this picture of her deathmask gives you a better idea of how she did look at time of her death...
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Oberon on September 14, 2014, 06:29:58 PM
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/Oberon2512/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09/2014-09-05%2013.09.10_zpscxeslyex.png) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Oberon2512/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09/2014-09-05%2013.09.10_zpscxeslyex.png.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Oberon on September 14, 2014, 06:33:15 PM
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/Oberon2512/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09/totenmaske_zpsuhqunvvh.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Oberon2512/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09/totenmaske_zpsuhqunvvh.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 04, 2014, 03:56:02 PM
I can't see the images of replies number 132 and 129, were they similar than the last one? Anyways, is interesting to see the aged verssion of Sissi's coronation portrait. Is a great pity that in the very few photos of the Empress in old age, she is always covering her face with fans, anyways, I don't think that the aged verssion portrait is much "accurate", or at least it doesn't look very much like the face of the Empress in the only photo of her in old age where her face can be seen (1898). Sadly, the photo is very small and we can't see her skin very well.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/OldSisi_zpsc22afe9a.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/OldSisi_zpsc22afe9a.jpg.html)

Quote
Although in my opinion it doesn't look like they took into account just how much she abused herself physically, which I'm sure would have effected her face quite a bit. I believe her face became very weather beaten due to all of her outdoor activity and her anorexia and extreme dieting didn't help matters either.

Agree with this!! Both things, anorexia and too much exercise outdoors surely didn't help her skin to age much well.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on November 06, 2014, 10:53:33 AM
Wow, a ton to catch up on on this thread...will have a read through it soon :)

Have to agree Maria Sisi, and it is a shame that photo is not a good/clear one Yelena.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Maria Sisi on November 06, 2014, 03:01:35 PM
I can't remember all of it but I remember reading a letter Franz Joseph wrote to Katharina Schratt warning her of Elisabeth's appearance before one of their meetings.

He said that the Empress had a very bad rash and not to look shocked or anything as it was very un-pretty looking and she was very sensitive about it.

I can't remember where he said the rash appeared but her skin had a lot more issues then just wrinkling.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 25, 2014, 01:20:10 PM
I can't remember where he said the rash appeared but her skin had a lot more issues then just wrinkling.

Now I can see why her increasing obsession of keeping her face covered with veils and fans.

***********************************************************************************************************************

By C.Gutsch, 1857, Empress Sissi

Source and credits: restauratorok.hu (http://www.restauratorok.hu/munkaim/restauralas), Click on the link for seeing the full size of the painting and some close ups. The image has great quality.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/Sissi_new_one_zps395c148a.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/Sissi_new_one_zps395c148a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Aliss_Kande on December 04, 2014, 09:51:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO4-TV6Zckc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO4-TV6Zckc)

Don't know if anyone has seen this or not.  Short film/ad/music video featuring an Empress Sisi lookalike.  You might find it blasphemous or you might find it really cool.  One thing's for sure: someone on the production of this video is just as much of a royal nerd as the rest of us!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 15, 2014, 03:15:39 PM
Empress Elisabeth, 1865

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Source: Peter's gallery at Flickr
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Maria Sisi on December 24, 2014, 09:36:05 PM
Eurohistory posted on its blog an article from Jezebel (pop culture site in America) about Sissi! It was inspired by Karl Langerfeld's Sissi/Franz Joseph inspired short film that was shown before one of Chanel's fashion shows in Salzburg.

http://jezebel.com/the-most-miserable-princess-ever-sisi-empress-elisab-1671950113 (http://jezebel.com/the-most-miserable-princess-ever-sisi-empress-elisab-1671950113)

The Hapsburg's are mostly forgotten in the West (outside of Marie Antoinette, and even then people forget she was a Hapsburg), so it's amazing how from time to time you can find Elisabeth in American articles and other places pretty much out of nowhere.

There really needs to be more in English on her! It's been almost 25 years since Hamann's biography and even more since Haslips.


Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on February 27, 2015, 01:27:53 PM
Empress Sissi in Hungarian court dress. I love to see in how many different ways were "recycled" the  few photos taken to the Empress!!! ; )

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Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 28, 2015, 01:11:39 PM
Sissi by Jana Zachariáše Quasta >>Click on the image for full size!

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*****Source: http://alzbeta-sisi.blog.cz*****
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: britt.25 on April 02, 2015, 01:49:42 PM
Interesting portraits. Thanks a lot to all here. I wasn't here a long time because too busy with work !! It's evident that she looks very different on every portrait. Well, the last one is interesting, too, but I think that it does not look very much like her in my opinion. What do the others think?  I didn't know the artist as well, I must confess....Is he well-known?
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on April 09, 2015, 07:56:30 PM
Interesting portraits. Thanks a lot to all here. I wasn't here a long time because too busy with work !! It's evident that she looks very different on every portrait. Well, the last one is interesting, too, but I think that it does not look very much like her in my opinion. What do the others think?  I didn't know the artist as well, I must confess....Is he well-known?

By the way, I must make a correction about the artist name!!  The correct name of the artist of the last portrait is Jan Zachariáš Quast!! (thankfully, an expert on Czech language corrected me) I've googled his name and I've seen some of his works, many are good. In the case of the portrait of Empress Sissi I don't think there is much likeness, I must confess that when I saw it I thought that this was a portrait of Sissi's sister, Countess Mathilde of Trani!!!

The year is 1860.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 18, 2015, 01:24:15 PM
****Taken from ariananadia's livejournal****

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(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/Sissi_livejournal_zpsyyv8jhf1.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/Sissi_livejournal_zpsyyv8jhf1.jpg.html)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/sissikaiserin_livejournal_zps7zrxsfbs.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/sissikaiserin_livejournal_zps7zrxsfbs.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: heavensent on May 18, 2015, 02:17:01 PM



Lady Di and
Elizabeth of Austria


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There are so many similarities and parallels in the lives of Lady Diana and Empress Elizabeth of Austria.
Elizabeth, like Diana married her prince while she still a
young teenager, a decision she was to regret for the rest of her life.
She married into the Austrian Habsburg dynasty and joined a court, hide bound by rules and suffocating in formality
which Elizabeth, ( like Diana ) was eventually to reject and begin to build her own independent life.

Like Diana she was expected to breed and supply
male heirs for the dynasty.
Elizabeth eventually had one son .....Rudolf in 1858 the heir to the Hapsburg Dynasty who tragically committed suicide in 1889 at Mayerling.
She also gave birth to 3 daughters.


Elizabeth, like Di, became obsessed with fitness and keeping her trim figure. In the case of the Elizabeth she went even further in the pursuit of a svelt figure and wore elaborate corsets that reduced her waist down to 16 inches.

All this amazed the Austrian public but infuriated Elizabeth's overbearing mother in law.... the Archduchess Sophie who wanted to see her son's wife pregnant with the future dynasty not laced up for the sake of vanity.


Elizabeth , like Di, seemed to be endlessly travelling Europe... England, Madeira, Corfu, Hungary. It was as if by all this travel she could escape her problems and anxieties.

Unlike Di however , Elizabeth was a brilliant rider and horsewoman with a deep love of horses and hunting.
Elizabeth was tall for her era... 5ft 8 inches , tall and slim, just like Lady Di.


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Like Lady Di, Elizabeth was famous and celebrated all over Europe, she was a stunning beauty with an amazing head of rich chestnut hair..... hair that reached down to her knees.
That rich, luxuriant hair also became a fetish, requiring hours and hours of care and preparation.

Tragically, Elizabeth, like Lady Di, died suddenly and violently
... in her case stabbed by an assassins knife in broad daylight on the shores of Lake Geneva ...she was age 60.

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I feel that , if they had met, they would have recognized so many similarities in their lives and situations.
I'm sure they would have swapped anecdotes about the stuffiness and overformality of each of their respective Royal Dynasties.
They might even have become soul mates !
..... at least they would have had a lot to talk about !l

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Elisabeth was born in 1837 of the eccentric Bavarian Wittelsbach royal line, and married the young Emperor Francis Joseph of Austria-Hungary when she was sixteen.

After the relative freedom of her Bavarian childhood, she found herself thrust into Europe's most ossified court.
Her sense of personal dignity and independence as well as her very real democratic and humanitarian instincts continuously offended against the role into which she was cast.

Her first ''political'' duty was to breed. She had three children in quick succession, after which, despite her excellent health and natural fertility, she refused to have any more (although she was later to have a fourth child), and encouraged her husband to take a mistress and develop a ménage ŕ trois rather than suffer his sexual attentions.


This sexual rejection was all the more publicly scandalous and personally painful in that the Emperor was known to be (or have been) infatuated with his wife. The result was that the Empire, after the suicide of their only son, the Crown Prince Rudolph, (Mayerling ) was left without a male heir.


In the oppressively rigid Habsburg court, and under the constant interference of her mother-in-law, the Archduchess Sophie, which prevented her from breast-feeding her children and developing a natural relationship with them, she became reputed sexually frigid (she had been virtually raped on her wedding-night), and unmaternal, as she herself confessed, ''loath(ing) the whole business of child-bearing'' .


(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/lovegodlover/Elisabeth%20of%20Austria/ELIZABETHEMPRESSAUSTRIA.jpg)Elizabeth and Emperor Francis Joseph
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: heavensent on May 18, 2015, 02:18:50 PM






Her sexuality was sublimated in her attachment to her younger daughter Valerie, large animals (especially horses), and the cultivation of her own body. She was famous for her equestrianship - haute école, circus-style stunt riding, and hunting.

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At 44 years ''she looked like an angel and rode like the devil'' . When she finally gave up riding in 1882, she devoted herself to marathon solitary hikes, swimming, gymnastics and fencing.

The Empress' fear of pregnancy, her mania for sport and violent exercise, her preoccupation with her physique, her peculiar diet, her attitude to dress - all had one common denominator: the preservation of a figure which was naturally very slender, small-boned and muscular.

She was tall ( five feet eight inches), and never weighed over 50 kilos (111 pounds) all her adult life. Her legendary beauty and charm brought her oppressive adulation wherever she went in Europe.

She preserved her youthful appearance in the face of what press and medical opinion viewed as bizarre, not to say improper, excesses in sport, diet and slimming. She hated to have to sit down to eat. She abominated banquets.

For long periods she lived on a daily diet of raw steak and a glass of milk or orange-juice. She struck people as hyperactive, and astonishingly hardy. Her illnesses were all evidently psychosomatic, and her neurotic crises always cleared up when she was away from court, and was free to travel and ride, free of the gaze of courtiers and public, which she experienced as physically painful - as a visual rape.

Her diary, alas, was destroyed by the police after her death. But further study of archival material, of medical and newspaper reports, might reveal much more of the precise circumstances surrounding her youthful reputation for tight-lacing.

It seems that around 1860-61 her waist measured no more than the 16 inches of the belt exhibited in London at the Great Exhibition . Why was an object with such scandalous associations put on public display? With her horror of publicity, especially as regards details of her personal life, it seems inexplicable that the Empress would have encouraged gossip around so intimate a matter as a waist-measurement.

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If the numerous biographies remain silent on this curious episode, is it because domestically the matter was hushed up? After all, in order to protect the imperial dignity the police actively suppressed stories of her equine acrobatics, and destroyed photographs pertaining to it.

If the 16 inch belt was displayed with her permission and knowledge (and it seems hard to conceive otherwise) or, worse, on her personal initiative, was it intended as a provocation? Was it the bizarre symbol of or satire upon the exhibitionism to which the most adulated woman in Europe was subject?

Her ''peak tight-lacing period'' seems to coincide with the prolonged and recurrent fits of paranoid depression which she suffered 1859-60, which have been attributed to her husband's political defeats, her three pregnancies, her sexual withdrawal, and quarrels with her mother-in-law over the rearing of her children.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: heavensent on May 18, 2015, 02:20:24 PM







Immediately after each pregnancy, she dieted and exercised rigorously; the smallness of her waist, which she appeared to flaunt and exaggerate, angered the Archduchess, who wanted her to be continuously pregnant. There were frequent rumours of grave illnesses at this time; consumption was widely diagnosed, and she was even accused of killing herself with tight-lacing.


Her health improved immediately after she left Vienna for extended travels, and was able to confront the physical hardships of nature and sport. On her return to Vienna in August 1862, a lady-in-waiting noted her improved sociability, and that ''she looks splendidly, she eats properly, sleeps well, and does not tight-lace anymore'' . At this time her waist-measure had probably increased to 18 inches, its reputed extent (more or less) until her death
.







Other costumes exhibited at the Museum of Modern Art had external measures of 18 1/2 inches and 19 1/2 inches (two, including the bodice through which the Empress was stabbed to death).


In 1882, she is described by the Prince of Hesse as ''almost inhumanly slender.'' In 1887 she was ''scarcely human in (her) fantastic attributes of hair and line'' (Haslip, pp. 334 and 373). In 1890, she is still ''graceful, but almost too slender'' and ''excessively slender, but still in terror of growing stout''

. She was at this time having herself heavily massaged, and wrapped naked in wet sheets impregnated with seaweed. She transmitted her horror of fat women to her daughter Valerie, who was positively terrified when, as a little girl, she first met Queen Victoria.


Her body became a religious cult, but one of a highly ascetic and solitary nature. Clothing, as such, was excluded from the cult. She disliked the expensive accoutrements and the constant changes of outfit to which her role condemned her.
She caused offence by the plainness, the preferred monochrome of her attire .
What mattered to her was perfect fit.

An essential and early constituent of her legend was that she was regularly sewn into her riding-habit. ''It was common knowledge in the hunting-field that a tailor from Whitchurch went every day to the Abbey to sew the skirt of the Empress' habit onto her close-fitting bodice, so that there should not be the slightest crease or wrinkle around her 18 inch waist'' .


Her niece Countess Marie Larisch (p.65) confirms this custom, and that ''she wore high laced boots with tiny spurs.''

Her English hunting companions loved her for her warmth, modesty, ease of manner, for the fact that she was not at all ''sewn-in,'' and for her anger at any instance of cruelty to horses which came to her attention .

Some of her corsets were made in leather, like those of a Parisian courtesan. ''Her many-coloured satin and moiré corsets were made in Paris, and she only wore them for a few weeks. They had no front-fastenings (i.e., no split busk, current since c. 1860), and Elizabeth was always laced into her corsets, a proceeding which sometimes took quite an hour .

She never wore petticoats ... when she took her walks she slipped her unstockinged feet into her boots, and wore no underlinen of any description ... she slept on an iron bedstead, with no pillows'' .

Her hair was a glory, in texture very thick and wavy, a rich chestnut in colour, and hung down below her knees.
Dressing it was the most important ritual of the toilette, which lasted up to two hours, during which she usually read, or studied languages. Many anecdotes testify how her self-imposed ''enslavement'' to her hair sublimated her sense of enslavement to the public role, how she used her capillary crown ''in order to get rid of the other one'' (the imperial crown).
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: heavensent on May 18, 2015, 02:21:32 PM




The hair was inviolable, mystical, almost literally sacred, a cult of which her spoiled and arrogant hairdresser was the high-priestess .

The biography of the Austrian Empress contains a whole psychology of fetishism, which emerges with peculiar intensity and pathos as a function of her struggle within her uniquely elevated social rank.

The rituals around her riding, slimming cures, corseting and hair were various channels of escape from and protest against her public role, attempts to recover an individual identity of which a pettifogging court, a devouring public, insatiable reporters and photographers constantly worked to deprive her.

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Elizabeth was born in Munich, Bavaria. She accompanied her mother and her 18-year-old sister, Helene, on a trip to the resort of Bad Ischl, Upper Austria , where they hoped Helene would attract the attention of their cousin, 23-year-old Franz Joseph, then Emperor of Austria.


Instead, Franz Joseph chose the younger sister... Elisabeth, and the couple were married in Vienna on April 24, 1854. Elisabeth later wrote that she regretted accepting his proposal for the rest of her life.

Elisabeth had difficulty adapting to the strict etiquette practiced at the Habsburg court. Nevertheless she bore the Emperor three children in quick succession:

Archduchess Sophie of Austria (1855–1857),
Archduchess Gisela of Austria (1856–1932),
and the hoped-for crown prince, Rudolf (1858–1889).
A decade later, Archduchess Marie Valerie of Austria (1868–1924) followed.

Elisabeth was denied any major influence on her own children's upbringing, however — they were raised by her mother-in-law Sophie, and soon after Rudolf's birth the marriage started to deteriorate, undone by Elisabeth's increasingly erratic behaviour.


To ease her pain and illnesses, Elisabeth embarked on a life of travel, seeing very little of her offspring, visiting places such as Madeira, Hungary, England, and Corfu.
In Corfu she commissioned the building of a castle which she called Achilleion — after her death the building was sold to the German Emperor Wilhelm II.

She not only became known for her beauty, but also for her fashion sense, diet and exercise regimens, passion for riding sports, and a series of reputed lovers.

She paid extreme attention to her appearance and would spend most of her time preserving her beauty. Her diet and exercise regimens were strictly enforced to maintain her 20-inch waistline and reduced her to near emaciation at times (symptoms of what is now recognized as anorexia).

One of the few things she would eat was raw veal meat juice, squeezed from her juice press, then boiled and seasoned.

Some of her reputed lovers included George "Bay" Middleton, a dashing Anglo–Scot who was probably the father of Clementine Ogilvy Hozier (Mrs. Winston Churchill).
She also tolerated, to a certain degree, Franz Joseph's affair with actress Katharina Schratt.

National unrest within the Habsburg monarchy caused by the rebellious Hungarians led, in 1867, to the foundation of the Austro–Hungarian double monarchy, making Elisabeth Empress of Austria and Queen of Hungary.

Elisabeth had always sympathized with the Hungarian cause and, reconciled and reunited with her alienated husband, she joined Franz Joseph in Budapest, where their coronation took place. In due course, their fourth child, Archduchess Marie Valerie was born (1868–1924). Afterwards, however, she again took up her former life of restlessly traveling through Europe, decades of what basically became a walking trance.
The Empress also engaged in writing poetry (such as the "Nordseelieder" and "Winterlieder", both inspirations from her favorite German poet, Heinrich Heine).

Shaping her own fantasy world in poetry, she referred to herself as Titania, Shakespeare's Fairy Queen. Most of her poetry refers to her journeys, classical Greek and romantic themes, as well as ironic mockery on the Habsburg dynasty.
In these years, Elisabeth also took up with an intensive study of both ancient and modern Greek, drowning in Homer's Iliad and Odyssey. Numerous Greek lecturers (such as Marinaky, Christomanos, and Barker) had to accompany the Empress on her hour-long walks while reading Greek to her.


Her Greek genealogical roots are presented in Greek pedigree of Empress Sisi. According to contemporary scholars, Empress Elisabeth knew Greek better than each of the Bavarian Greek Queens in the 19th century.

In 1889, Elisabeth's life was shattered by the death of her only son: 30-year-old Crown Prince Rudolf and his young lover Baroness Mary Vetsera were found dead, apparently by suicide.
The scandal is known by the name Mayerling, after the name of Rudolf's hunting lodge in Lower Austria.



After Rudolf's death, the Empress continued to be a myth, a sensation wherever she went: a long black gown that could be buttoned up at the bottom, a white parasol made of leather and a brown fan to shun her face from curious looks became the trademarks of the legendary Empress of Austria.


Only a few snapshots of Elisabeth in her last years are left, taken by photographers who were lucky enough to catch her without her noticing.
The moments Elisabeth would show up in Vienna and see her husband were rare. Interestingly, their correspondence increased during those last years and the relationship between the Empress and the Emperor of Austria had become platonic and warm.


On her imperial steamer, Miramar, Empress Elisabeth traveled restlessly through the Mediterranean. Her favorite places were Cap Martin at the French Riviera, where tourism had only started in the second half of the 19th century, Lake Geneva in Switzerland, Bad Ischl in Austria, where she would spend her summers, and Corfu in the winter.


More than that, the Empress had visited countries no other sovereign had seen at the time: Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Algeria, Malta, Greece, Turkey and Egypt. Traveling had become the sense of her life but also an escape from herself.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: heavensent on May 18, 2015, 02:23:07 PM

Assassination


On September 10, 1898, in Geneva, Switzerland, Elisabeth, aged 60, was stabbed in the heart with a needle file by a young anarchist named Luigi Lucheni, in an act of propaganda of the deed. She had been walking along the promenade of Lake Geneva about to board a steamship for Montreux with her lady-of-courtesy, Countess Sztaray.
Unaware of the severity of her condition she still boarded the ship. Bleeding to death from a puncture wound to the heart, Elisabeth's last words were "What happened to me?".


The strong pressure from her corset kept the bleeding back until the corset was removed. Only then did her staff and surrounding onlookers understand the severity of the situation. Reportedly, her assassin had hoped to kill a prince from the House of Orléans and, failing to find him, turned on Elisabeth instead. As Lucheni afterward said, "I wanted to kill a royal. It did not matter which one."


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The Empress Elizabeth's assassin being led away.

The empress was buried in the Imperial Crypt in Vienna's city centre which for centuries served as the Imperial burial place.





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Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Превед on May 18, 2015, 04:07:10 PM
There are so many similarities and parallels in the lives of Lady Diana and Empress Elizabeth of Austria.

There are many external similiarities, perhaps fewer shared character traits:

- Diana had a very caring side and liked to care of children, both her own and others' and other disadvantaged persons. Elisabeth did not care about children, neither her own and others', valued freedom and only admired other strong personalities. Her caring side probably showed itself more in her relationships with animals, which Diana cared a lot for in her childhood, but less as an adult.
- Diana was not an intellectual and did not enjoy learning French at finishing school in Switzerland. Elisabeth threw herself into learning a difficult language like Hungarian and a scholarly language like Greek, read ancient poetry, translated and wrote her own poetry.

Diana displayed many typically feminine traits, whereas Elisabeth displayed many typically masculine traits and presented a rather androgynic image. Perhaps you meant German Queens of Greece, which also would include Sophie of Prussia and Frederica of Hanover.

According to contemporary scholars, Empress Elisabeth knew Greek better than each of the Bavarian Greek Queens in the 19th century.

Strictly speaking, there were no Bavarian Queens of Greece. The only one it might apply to was Amalia of Oldenburg, spouse of King Otto, born a Prince of Bavaria. Perhaps you meant German Queens of Greece, which also would include Sophie of Prussia and Frederica of Hanover.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Превед on May 19, 2015, 07:15:39 AM
More than that, the Empress had visited countries no other sovereign had seen at the time: Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Algeria, Malta, Greece, Turkey and Egypt. Traveling had become the sense of her life but also an escape from herself.[/size]

Huh? These countries were by no means exotic for royal travellers in the late 19th century, with the possible exception of Morocco, plus they all, except Malta and Algeria, had their own sovereigns. Remember that many young male royals, especially those serving in their countries' navies, toured the world by ship and visited any place with a coast. Adult royals, sovereigns and royal women mostly limited themselves to exactly the countries you mention: The Mediterranean ones. Catholic royal families like Elisabeth's had lots of relatives to visit in Portugal and Spain, Protestant and Orthodox royals in Greece.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: heavensent on May 19, 2015, 09:12:43 AM
Lets  remember  that  Elizabeth was a  horsewoman.... a  brilliant  rider  in love with all things  equestrian...

whereas  Diana  ..... !  dont  think she  even  liked  horseriding  ...  Diana  was  a    town  mouse  while   Elizabeth  was  definitely a
country mouse .
     Elizabeth    was   a  huge  celebrity  way back in the   19th  cent...  who  could  compare  with her  ?


Probably the  closest   was   Princess  Alexandra  ....

(wonder if they ever met  ?)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 19, 2015, 08:05:52 PM

- Diana had a very caring side and liked to care of children, both her own and others' and other disadvantaged persons. Elisabeth did not care about children, neither her own and others', valued freedom and only admired other strong personalities. Her caring side probably showed itself more in her relationships with animals, which Diana cared a lot for in her childhood, but less as an adult.

Well, in general you are right, the Empress was quite cold towards her older children as well as with her grandchildren. But there was a noticeable exception to this, Elisabeth loved deeply her youngest daughter, Archduchess Marie Valerie and was closer to her. This child was raised by the Empress herself (MV was the only child that wasn't raised by the domineering Archduchess Sophie) and I've read that Elisabeth tended to be overprotecting with she. But yes, this was an exceptional case.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 01, 2015, 01:44:05 PM
Don't remember seeing this in color before, as well as in such good size (Click on the image for a bigger view)

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/sissiyoung_zpsfcoblwax.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/sissiyoung_zpsfcoblwax.jpg.html)

Credits on the image
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 01, 2015, 02:30:32 PM
Empress Sissi in a carriage at Franzensburg (Laxenburg) in 1870

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Empress Sissi and Emperor Franz Joseph at Cap Martin, 1890's

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Credits on the images
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 03, 2015, 03:08:22 PM
Empress Sissi in Gödollö by Alexander von Bensa, ca. 1880. Credits on the image.


(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/sissi1880shungary_zpsl7fokrwi.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/sissi1880shungary_zpsl7fokrwi.jpg.html)


I haven't seen this before, expect to see a better verssion of it soon. From sissi.de

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/amazonasissi.de_zpsapneqy7g.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/amazonasissi.de_zpsapneqy7g.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 15, 2015, 12:53:28 PM
Sissi wearing a Hungarian court gown

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/z_sissi2_zpssmyr73hh.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/z_sissi2_zpssmyr73hh.jpg.html)

The Empress

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/z_sissi_zps2fr3laul.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/z_sissi_zps2fr3laul.jpg.html)

Both images come from sissiofaustria.tumblr
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Jen_94 on July 09, 2015, 02:34:56 PM
Wow, I love the second image, she was truly beautiful!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 31, 2015, 02:57:04 PM
Portrait of a very young Empress Sissi (1850's I think) in a ridding gown, I guess.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/info.hu_zpsuqlvkrfh.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/info.hu_zpsuqlvkrfh.jpg.html)

*****Source: the Hungarian forum index.hu*****
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 14, 2015, 01:49:52 PM
I didn't know how many different verssions of this painting (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/LittleSissi-1.jpg) exist, unfortunately, their quality isn't much good :-( The images get bigger when clicking over them

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/th_sissifull_zpsbruqy9wg.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissifull_zpsbruqy9wg.jpg.html)(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/th_sissi22_zpspqqmunm1.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissi22_zpspqqmunm1.jpg.html)

Another portraits from the 1850's
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/alzbeta-sisi_zps92vfuqt4.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/alzbeta-sisi_zps92vfuqt4.jpg.html)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/drdrd_zpsflehafcx.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/drdrd_zpsflehafcx.jpg.html)

>>>Source: Alzbeta-Sisi blog>>>
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 15, 2015, 03:35:55 PM
Empress Sissi painting made from her famous coronation photo by Emil Rabending. Taken from pinterest.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/sissi%201867_zpsztryozfu.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissi%201867_zpsztryozfu.jpg.html)


I posted this time ago, but now I found a better verssion of it. Credits on the image.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/sissiblue_zpsoe7rq5ci.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissiblue_zpsoe7rq5ci.jpg.html)


Empress Sissi receiving Empress Marie Feodorovna, August 25th, 1885. Credist and source on the image.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/1885%20Sissi%20da%20bienvenida%20a%20MF_zpsmaxuoyxr.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/1885%20Sissi%20da%20bienvenida%20a%20MF_zpsmaxuoyxr.jpg.html)(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/sissi%20y%20MF%2025%20a%20go_zpspmpwyyfc.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissi%20y%20MF%2025%20a%20go_zpspmpwyyfc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 22, 2015, 02:03:07 PM
1867 (From pinterest)

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/sissi1867%202_zps5uajzrva.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissi1867%202_zps5uajzrva.jpg.html)


Don't remember seeing this before.... (From forum index.hu)

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/MED_0013259153_zpszcsj6sz8.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/MED_0013259153_zpszcsj6sz8.jpg.html)

Neither this... or at least in color. (From the forum index.hu)

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/hungara_zpshtm6mv4a.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/hungara_zpshtm6mv4a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 28, 2015, 01:57:17 PM
Hungarian Millenium celebrations, 1896. Sissi is the lady in black at right.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/Hungarian%20millenium%20celebrations_zpswwphhzrc.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/Hungarian%20millenium%20celebrations_zpswwphhzrc.jpg.html)

Taken from the Hungarian newspaper Vasárnapi Ujság (credits and thanks to epa.oszk.hu).

Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 31, 2015, 01:38:45 PM
Not Sissi, but there is no thread about her short lived first born, so I decided to include the following images here.

The baptism of Archduchess Sophie (1855)

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/baptism_zpskppbmwjz.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/baptism_zpskppbmwjz.jpg.html)


The funeral of Archduchess Sophie two years later (1857)

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/sophie-7_zpsh2vyzohc.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/sophie-7_zpsh2vyzohc.jpg.html)


>>Source: here (https://keizerinelisabeth.wordpress.com/category/sophie/)<<
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 04, 2016, 01:02:28 PM
Empress Sissi at a ball

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/sissiball_zpslvjkecpx.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissiball_zpslvjkecpx.jpg.html)

With Empress Marie Feodorovna, 1885

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/sissiyMF2_zpsauivwxg7.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissiyMF2_zpsauivwxg7.jpg.html)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/sissiyMF_zpsyqzdoery.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissiyMF_zpsyqzdoery.jpg.html)

>>Last two images come from erzsebet-kiralyne.blog<<
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 06, 2016, 02:05:15 PM
Some new:

Finally in color although in very small size

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/color_zpsxuwa9eq3.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/color_zpsxuwa9eq3.jpg.html)

Emperor Franz Joseph and Empress Sissi saying goodbye (with a kiss!) for the Emperor´s depature to Dalmatia, 1875.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/dlmatia%201875_zpsecos5jam.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/dlmatia%201875_zpsecos5jam.jpg.html)

Sissi and Franz Joseph

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/sisifranz_zpskr5zvyxy.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/sisifranz_zpskr5zvyxy.jpg.html)

Family portrait

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/sissifami_zps0disq27g.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/sissifami_zps0disq27g.jpg.html)

Silver wedding, I think

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/silverwedding_zpstpj8jrpi.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/silverwedding_zpstpj8jrpi.jpg.html)

Other

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/sissibustle_zpsb2jtc5sp.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/sissibustle_zpsb2jtc5sp.jpg.html)


Source: http://alzbeta-sisi.blog.cz/
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Maria Sisi on January 06, 2016, 02:42:26 PM
The illustrations are interesting.

Considering her fame was centered on her famous beauty and thinness its a mystery as to why they make her look rather heavy and fat in so many of them. Many of them look nothing like her.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 07, 2016, 01:18:29 PM
Considering her fame was centered on her famous beauty and thinness its a mystery as to why they make her look rather heavy and fat in so many of them. Many of them look nothing like her.

There were several illustrators that didn't do a good work.


Empress Sissi at Corfu
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/SissiCorfu_zpsyfb4raet.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/SissiCorfu_zpsyfb4raet.jpg.html)

Sissi in her youth
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/sissijovenm_zpsqxhqchfe.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/sissijovenm_zpsqxhqchfe.jpg.html)

Credits on the images
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: synnadene on March 06, 2016, 07:09:22 AM
Some new:

Finally in color although in very small size

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/color_zpsxuwa9eq3.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/color_zpsxuwa9eq3.jpg.html)


Here is a bigger version:

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Synnadene/Elisa/Erzseacutebet.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Synnadene/media/Elisa/Erzseacutebet.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 10, 2016, 11:49:16 AM
Thank you so much Synnadene!!! Even the colors are of better quality. I didn't notice before that Sissi is wearing a Hungarian style dress on that portrait!! (the bodice!) : ) thank you again!!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 29, 2016, 02:49:41 PM
New to me! (♥_♥) A new pose of this well known photo session by Ludwig Angerer (1860)

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/darlingdear_zpsrp5gny0p.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/darlingdear_zpsrp5gny0p.jpg.html)

>>Click for bigger!!

Credits on the image
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on April 26, 2016, 01:32:13 PM
Sissi in later years, taken from worldofhabsburgs.tumblr

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/darlingdear_worldofhabsburgs_zpsjmas3qds.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/darlingdear_worldofhabsburgs_zpsjmas3qds.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on April 28, 2016, 02:28:26 PM
The Illustrirte Zeitung informing about the death of the Empress.

Full

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/annoshow-752x1024_zpsska0unzs.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/annoshow-752x1024_zpsska0unzs.jpg.html)

Detail of the Empress lying on deathbed

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/ErzsiMarie/annoshow-752x1024detail_zps4pu5ntqs.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/ErzsiMarie/annoshow-752x1024detail_zps4pu5ntqs.jpg.html)

>>Source: europeana press<<
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 20, 2016, 02:21:40 PM
This is new to me:

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/franzjosephwh48_zpscj16rfnf.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/franzjosephwh48_zpscj16rfnf.jpg.html)

Source: here (http://www.kulturundwein.com/winklerhermaden.htm)


In horseback with family >>Click for bigger!<<

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/descarga_zps43mlxnvc.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/descarga_zps43mlxnvc.jpg.html)


Source: here (http://sammlungenonline.albertina.at/?query=record/objectnumber=%5B5031%5D&showtype=record)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 24, 2016, 02:13:45 PM
CREDITS TO: All the following images were taken from the wonderful site www.sissi.de

The Empress in Hungarian court dress, 1870's or 1880's

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de%2055_zpsmej93dde.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de%2055_zpsmej93dde.jpg.html)

From her well known photo session of the 1860's, I wonder if anyone has seen the full one??

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de%2044_zpsquk70752.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de%2044_zpsquk70752.jpg.html)

Empress Sissi at the funeral of Frenc Deak

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Sisi%20pics/sisi.de%20deak_zpssgmail0y.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Sisi%20pics/sisi.de%20deak_zpssgmail0y.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 24, 2016, 02:19:19 PM
CREDITS TO: All the following images were taken from the wonderful site www.sissi.de

In Hungarian court dress

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Sisi%20pics/sisi.de%2066_zpsy9ofnjvm.png) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Sisi%20pics/sisi.de%2066_zpsy9ofnjvm.png.html)

A similar portrait in two different versions, 1850's: blonde and darker haired

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de%20joven_zpsw7wafctd.png) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de%20joven_zpsw7wafctd.png.html)(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de%20var_zpsiwuz5zrd.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de%20var_zpsiwuz5zrd.jpg.html)

Lower quality ones:

In Hungarian clothes with Franz Joseph

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de%202_zpsb33hpkse.png) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de%202_zpsb33hpkse.png.html)

In horseback:

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de_zpschjdow8m.png) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de_zpschjdow8m.png.html)(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de3_zps4eq6yuov.png) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Sisi%20pics/sissi.de3_zps4eq6yuov.png.html)

Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 28, 2016, 03:26:10 PM
A new photo of Sissi has appeared lately on tumblr (antique-royals.tumblr). On it we can see Empress Sissi, her sister, Helene aka "Nené" and a lady in waiting (Hunyady Windischgratz). ca. 1860.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/1860_zpscxdaj2ly.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/1860_zpscxdaj2ly.jpg.html)

But lately I found that it is just a detail of a larger picture...

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/le%20dame%20di%20compagnia%20Hunyady%20Windischgraetz%20e%20Thurn%20und%20Taxis%20che%20la%20accompagnarono%20a%20Madeira.%20Compare%20nella%20foto%20seppur%20sa%20_zpseba7hbyz.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/le%20dame%20di%20compagnia%20Hunyady%20Windischgraetz%20e%20Thurn%20und%20Taxis%20che%20la%20accompagnarono%20a%20Madeira.%20Compare%20nella%20foto%20seppur%20sa%20_zpseba7hbyz.jpg.html)

Taken from: sweetlydreamingofthepast.blogspot.com
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 26, 2016, 02:09:27 PM
Some kind of Hungarian WWI era propaganda depicting the late Empress Sissi

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/wwi%20prop_zpsquxwyhgz.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/wwi%20prop_zpsquxwyhgz.jpg.html)

Sissi and Franz Joseph in the 1880's

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/fjss2_zpsjtaz2zvz.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/fjss2_zpsjtaz2zvz.jpg.html)

Now on a carriage, 1860's

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/FJss_zpso7ctj5wm.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/FJss_zpso7ctj5wm.jpg.html)

And even younger, in the 1850's... not much time after their marriage, I think

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/otalia_zps3aeehyv1.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/otalia_zps3aeehyv1.jpg.html)


All tha images come from: http://alzbeta-sisi.blog.cz/
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Dru on August 14, 2017, 07:26:30 PM
http://adini-nikolaevna.tumblr.com/image/162913355225 (http://adini-nikolaevna.tumblr.com/image/162913355225)

Archduchess Sophie, Elisabeth's firstborn, on her deathbed by Miklós Barabás.
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 29, 2017, 03:13:56 PM
Portrait, young Sissi, 1850's (https://68.media.tumblr.com/6d61c6a5bd929e7d4a4274653e6a5848/tumblr_owus8qBwBm1v1oo6no1_500.png)

Illustration from the 1880's (https://68.media.tumblr.com/006b419d39d3c49570358ee6a14e5a52/tumblr_owamc2V98F1v1oo6no1_400.jpg)

Court event, Hungary (https://68.media.tumblr.com/8eb9558e721fbdc2567524e077903466/tumblr_owam92yEKP1v1oo6no1_1280.jpg)

The Empress' assasination, 1898 (https://68.media.tumblr.com/9948a3bdcdf5ad193aa5c1451782c858/tumblr_owamk8gtTR1v1oo6no1_500.jpg)

In horseback, 1853 (https://68.media.tumblr.com/891fc0e590e4464ca700cfab481c83d8/tumblr_owuqqoIfPp1v1oo6no1_1280.jpg) The best verssion of this picture that I've ever seen.

>>>Great find Dru!!!
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 25, 2017, 02:52:05 PM
By Frank Reynolds, 1890. (https://78.media.tumblr.com/c0382e66b4a619e97f771aed0079e570/tumblr_oy1rkrorhT1rlm2lro1_1280.jpg), Empress Sissi in ridding dress.

Empress Sissi after death (https://78.media.tumblr.com/b27fb84076cff61c64851422b24b9638/tumblr_oye6p5nYKy1v1oo6no1_1280.jpg), being received by her son, Crown Prince Rudolph at heaven.

By Johan Nepomuk Mayer,  (https://78.media.tumblr.com/93babd916ba01c5940787d211da1894d/tumblr_oye67ehxzm1v1oo6no1_400.png) Empress Sissi in the 1850's. >>>Courtesy and credits: artnet.de
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 19, 2018, 03:39:48 PM
The Empress being assasinated in Geneva by Luigi Lucheni: Here (https://78.media.tumblr.com/388257b932de045d41020d4f6e348bf8/tumblr_pa6asoK1Ud1v1oo6no1_500.jpg)

The Empress visiting a hospital:  here (https://78.media.tumblr.com/272fad9deeb4aa795bc1b609681bbad9/tumblr_p9x2eyI2XP1v1oo6no1_400.jpg)

Young Sissi: Here (https://78.media.tumblr.com/7792d4052ac094e45ae4456c6eb67ba7/tumblr_p9sl35pFOK1ti8s2bo1_540.jpg)

Sissi with ladies at Buda: Here (https://78.media.tumblr.com/fdecaff097d96f0f35335d4c74250f8e/tumblr_p993z10YB41v1oo6no1_1280.jpg)

Young Sissi portrait: Here (https://78.media.tumblr.com/f228916c4bf48acd76bb8aaa360c6502/tumblr_p8u7yxRwLH1v1oo6no1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 19, 2018, 03:54:49 PM
1860's (https://78.media.tumblr.com/b7494eb255b901ff000327a2700fe8b7/tumblr_p1y4sonD9b1v1oo6no1_1280.jpg)

Imperial family (https://78.media.tumblr.com/cd9015972bd3afd177c597f223c5d822/tumblr_p2cx4jYrUF1v1oo6no1_400.jpg)

After 1989: 1 (https://78.media.tumblr.com/0ca8957b65a8afe01940307317647dc3/tumblr_p23uiy1gK91ti8s2bo1_540.jpg), 2 (https://78.media.tumblr.com/11454433f9e8b21e57cbde9828781e85/tumblr_p6s7evB3Eb1v1oo6no1_640.jpg)

By Franz Russ, later than1888 (https://78.media.tumblr.com/2c4415bbc2a2476e78a8e31254182d72/tumblr_p7r8ejY9wn1v1oo6no1_500.jpg)

Queen of Hungary (https://78.media.tumblr.com/ccf59671eb9fa00b44888d5b999ae4f9/tumblr_p7r89ebtzN1v1oo6no1_400.jpg)

Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Martin-Karl on November 01, 2018, 06:09:54 AM
Hello all !

I am new here and I have a question:
Did I read that here that Sisi didn't really like the French language so much ?

I'm having difficulty to find it ...

Edit:
No that was Italian
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=14597.570

Sorry for bothering, mods can delete this post if they want
Title: Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
Post by: Martin-Karl on November 05, 2018, 05:46:52 PM
Does anyone know a higher resolution of this photo ?
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/c0/7b/80/c07b80f0a33edeb1ba7d43fb20b6fdb7.jpg)

Supposedly that's Sisi with her hairdresser Fanny Angerer