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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Olga Nicholaievna => Topic started by: otmafan on January 15, 2005, 10:03:29 AM

Title: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: otmafan on January 15, 2005, 10:03:29 AM
Is she a cousin?

(http://livadia.org/olishka/images/olga3.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: felix on January 15, 2005, 10:29:27 AM
Otmafan, I've never seen this photo before. Where did it come from ?   I have no idea who the girl is.  F.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: otmafan on January 15, 2005, 10:36:36 AM
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Otmafan, I've never seen this photo before. Where did it come from ?   I have no idea who the girl is.  F.


livadia.org
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: felix on January 15, 2005, 11:24:01 AM
Otmafan, thanks i'll check it out.  F.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: matushka on January 15, 2005, 11:25:12 AM
Could not that be one of the daugther of Ania Viroubova sister, Alexandra? That just a suggestion
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on January 15, 2005, 01:09:40 PM
I think it's Anna's sister Alexandra ('Alya')'s daughter.  There are other photos of the little girl with her mother, Anna, etc from Yale - that's where I first saw the photo of Olga and the little girl.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ferngully on January 15, 2005, 01:38:21 PM
oh i love this photo, she reminds me of my european aunt so much in that picture :D and the little girl looks like one of my cousins as a toddler
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: otmafan on January 15, 2005, 02:05:58 PM
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I think it's Anna's sister Alexandra ('Alya')'s daughter.  There are other photos of the little girl with her mother, Anna, etc from Yale - that's where I first saw the photo of Olga and the little girl.


Is that the same child that the Empress is holding in this picture?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/otmafan/alixchildren.jpg)

Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on January 15, 2005, 04:41:34 PM
No, that's Lili Dehn's son.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: otmafan on January 15, 2005, 07:14:29 PM
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No, that's Lili Dehn's son.


Oops!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 17, 2005, 07:47:59 PM
Wow, lanie know's a lot! Im almost jealous!!lol  ;D

at first i thought it was a local town girl, since a lot of the pictures i've seen the GD's are with local flok, but judging by her clothes, i don't think so.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: lostfan on January 31, 2005, 04:59:04 PM
I used to use that photo in my AU story as grown-up-and-married-to-the-Prince-of-Wales!Olga and her daughter. The little girl certainly is a cutie.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on April 11, 2005, 03:04:29 PM
http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/olgaana2.jpg

In this picture? I know that probably no one knows, but I was just wondering.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Laura Mabee on April 13, 2005, 02:39:29 PM
Sorry, I don't know. There were lot of books that the Romanovs read. There is a thread under Alexandra that is discussing what she read, if you're interested  :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ferngully on April 14, 2005, 02:29:28 AM
maybe she was reading one of her mothers books to make sure that it was right for her ;)
selina                  xxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Laura Mabee on April 14, 2005, 12:27:56 PM
Lol  ;)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on April 14, 2005, 02:54:06 PM
That reminds me of something I was going to ask. When Olga told her mother she was going to see if the book was right for her mother to read, was she joking, or being serious?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on April 14, 2005, 03:49:34 PM
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That reminds me of something I was going to ask. When Olga told her mother she was going to see if the book was right for her mother to read, was she joking, or being serious?


Joking, of course.  Alexandra did try to make sure her daughters never read anything, well, questionable...but Olga did, what with the incident with reading a bad word in French!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Laura Mabee on April 14, 2005, 04:32:41 PM
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what with the incident with reading a bad word in French!


??? Do tell Lanie
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Georgiy on April 14, 2005, 04:56:59 PM
It is a crude term for faeces. Although as the Tsar said (I think it was the Tsar who made this comment), when the Soldier/General (?) who uttered it said this word, it was the noblest word in the French language.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Dasha on April 14, 2005, 10:15:02 PM
Georgiy, I do believe it was Nikolai who said that.  Therefore, you're correct.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: IlyaBorisovich on April 15, 2005, 03:14:44 AM
Olga was reading Les Miserables, and underlined the French army's response to the order to surrender at Waterloo.  This was, or course, "Merde!"  She wasn't to see Gilliard until the next day, so she asked her father what it meant.  Nicholas replied that it was a word that should never be repeated, but in the mouths of the French army that day it was the finest word ever uttered.

Nicholas met Gilliard in the garden the following day and asked him about the unusual vocabulary he was teaching his daughter.  Gilliard stammered for a response until Nicholas broke out laughing and said he understood completely.

Ilya
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Laura Mabee on April 18, 2005, 04:23:01 PM
Thanks guys. I don't know what the word  "Merde!" means, or why It would be offensive.. but it's a cute story none the less  :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ferngully on April 18, 2005, 04:25:23 PM
probably the s-word :o
selina            xxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Helen_Azar on April 18, 2005, 04:32:58 PM
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probably the s-word


Yes.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Romanov_Fan_NAOTMA on April 22, 2005, 04:03:54 PM
Merde does mean the s-word. :)
Olga used to take books off her mothers table of books and read them and when Alexandra asked her why she would sy "Mother I must find out if this book is right" or something like that :D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: IlyaBorisovich on April 22, 2005, 07:38:50 PM
Olga used to take books intended for her mother and read them first, saying, "I must make sure this book is suitable for you to read, Mama."

Ilya
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on April 22, 2005, 11:48:55 PM
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1001866&iid=1001866&srchtype=

I assume the girl sitting on the bench beside Aleksandra is Olga. But who's the other girl? Has anyone seen this one before? I haven't. It's been so long since I saw a new picture, and I just had to post it.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nerdycool on April 23, 2005, 03:26:50 AM
Actually, it's Tatiana on the bench, and the other girl is Olga. I think it helped that T was smiling. She has such a distinctive "smiling face" that one can almost always ID her, even when the picture is blurry.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ortino on April 23, 2005, 08:08:30 AM
Yes, it's Tatiana.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Romanov_Fan_NAOTMA on April 23, 2005, 05:09:25 PM
You all are right it is Alexandra and Tatiana on the bench and Olga in the background. :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: GD Alexandra on April 24, 2005, 07:04:51 PM
Tatiana's mouth in that picture reminds me of the photos Anastasia has with her mother. She put faces  just like Tatiana, in this pic. (although Tanya is not doing intentionally)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: dianoshka on April 24, 2005, 07:56:09 PM
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Actually, it's Tatiana on the bench, and the other girl is Olga. I think it helped that T was smiling. She has such a distinctive "smiling face" that one can almost always ID her, even when the picture is blurry.


Yep. I was thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Georgiy on April 25, 2005, 04:53:15 PM
Maybe she was hoping to expand her vocabulary ;)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Laura Mabee on April 26, 2005, 09:36:03 AM
hahaha... thanks for telling me what it meant   ;)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on May 08, 2005, 08:23:31 PM
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1001525&iid=1001525&srchtype=

This looks like Olga. But what is that she looks ready to play?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on May 08, 2005, 08:24:35 PM
She's holding a little telescope.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on May 08, 2005, 08:35:37 PM
Oh, I feel silly. lol. Her lips looked puckered, so I thought she was getting ready to play something. lol
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on May 10, 2005, 07:17:46 PM
it kinda looks like maria, or tatiana  :-/
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: XJaseyRaeX on May 22, 2005, 06:27:59 PM
The one on the bench is Tatiana and Olga is the one standing
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on June 18, 2005, 11:45:13 AM
lol i thought it was some kind of instrument too!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 04, 2005, 10:11:08 AM
does any one have any more pics of them in theese dresses. and in that year, what ever it was?
(http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/images/OlgaTatMid.jpg)

Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_sofia on July 04, 2005, 12:31:19 PM
It was c.1904 for Alexei's christening,
sopsxx
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 04, 2005, 02:25:28 PM
right thank u so much :D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_sofia on July 04, 2005, 02:40:33 PM
There is a lovely quote about them at the event, its in the camera and the tsar's, but i don't have my copy at the moment!
sopsxx
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 05, 2005, 08:04:42 AM
o thats ok. does any one have any more pics of alexei's christining?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: cherrysmile222 on July 05, 2005, 01:02:57 PM
You didn't know M-word, Laura? What a mistake........... ;D Such a basic French word useful in every uncomfortable situation ;)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on July 05, 2005, 06:33:05 PM
If any of these are not from Aleksey's christining, please tell me. I think they all are, but I have a habit of being wrong.
(http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/tatiakokoshnik.jpg)
Tatiana.
(http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/laniecolor_3.jpg)
Maria, colored by Lanie.
(http://www.livadia.org/ana/1901-1906/14.jpg)
Anastasia

Anyone have the pictures of Olga and Aleksey?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 05, 2005, 07:44:40 PM
i'm not shure if they are i'm not very good at that either. i'll try to find some of olga and alexei.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Laura Mabee on July 05, 2005, 10:29:41 PM
Isn't that sad too? I took French since I was in Kindergarden till Grade 9, and I had no idea. *shakes head at self*
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ferngully on July 06, 2005, 04:07:47 AM
i don't know about alexei but here is a pic of the girls
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/magilune/artemis/otma.jpg)
selina                xxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 06, 2005, 08:12:27 AM
o ok thank u so much! i ques u were right ;D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 06, 2005, 03:41:53 PM
ferngully- that's a great pic
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 06, 2005, 03:58:17 PM
i have never seen this pircture. it looks like olga and tatiana. is it them? if it is where and wen was it taken?

(http://img207.exs.cx/img207/2765/124lo.jpg)

Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on July 06, 2005, 03:59:31 PM
It's Tatiana and Olga, c1901-1902, probably in the Alexander Park at Tsarskoe Selo.  There are a series of photos of all the girls from the early 1900s (well, Olga, Tatiana and Maria) posing in front of this tree.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 07, 2005, 12:58:23 AM
The picture is not showing up, can u reposted if its ok?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 07, 2005, 12:59:08 AM
O never mind its showing up now! ;D I've never seen that picture either, its great!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 07, 2005, 01:00:02 AM
Was the picture where the girls were running around the tree taken at that same spot?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Fay on July 07, 2005, 03:42:56 AM
Probably yes.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ferngully on July 07, 2005, 07:11:00 AM
i don't know where i got it from, but i like it a lot :)
selina                 xxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 07, 2005, 03:38:18 PM
they look very old! i wonder how old, it kind of looks like its from a book of some sort.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 07, 2005, 03:39:28 PM
how come olga doesn't have the same dress tatiana is wearing?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 07, 2005, 04:59:05 PM
Hmm interesting question.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on July 07, 2005, 05:21:20 PM
I've seen them on eBay.  They were a set of postcards.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nerdycool on July 07, 2005, 05:45:36 PM
There could be lots of reasons... one of the skirts had a hole in it, or one of the girls was going through a growth spurt so the skirt didn't fit, or maybe Maria and Olga were alike and Tatiana and Anastasia, or (if they were anything like me an my sister at those ages) they decided they didn't want to wear the exact same thing as the other, so one opted for a variation. The list could be quite long.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on July 07, 2005, 09:25:15 PM
(http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/oltatsnow.jpg)

Olga is sitting, but who's holding her hand? I assume it's Tatiana, but does anyone have the full picture, or did she just get cut out?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on July 07, 2005, 10:05:34 PM
It's Alexei, who got cut out.  I have no idea when it was taken; I've seen 1915, and I've also seen 1917!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: divine_grace on July 07, 2005, 10:51:49 PM
I thought it was Anastasia. Its in Nicholas and alexandra the family albums by prince michael of greece.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ferngully on July 08, 2005, 07:42:56 AM
where are they?
selina                 xxxxxxx
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ortino on July 08, 2005, 08:29:40 AM
looks like the Alexander Park.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Fay on July 08, 2005, 10:54:02 AM
I also think it's Tatiana. This picture is shown in Tanya's Diary or Olishka's Diary at Livadia.org as far as I remember. You may check it there, clockworkgirl21 :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ferngully on July 08, 2005, 10:57:09 AM
its in olga's diary
selina                   xxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 08, 2005, 02:20:59 PM
That's all I learned in my years of French!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lisa on July 08, 2005, 02:46:50 PM
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Such a basic French word useful in every uncomfortable situation ;)



as a native French, I...

agree!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_sofia on July 08, 2005, 04:26:08 PM
in our french club at our school, the assistant bought this video of a kind of french fame academy, i forgot what it was called,! :) and she started teaching us all the french swear words, we thought she was the coolest teacher after that! lol ;D
sopsxx
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lisa on July 08, 2005, 04:30:58 PM
La Star Académie!
Yeah!
not very good to learn a very smart French, but for the common words-it's perfect!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_sofia on July 08, 2005, 04:34:30 PM
lol! i know, i was terrible at french!!  ;D actually am at most languages! ;D
ha ha poor gilliard! ha ha ;D
sopsxx
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 08, 2005, 05:47:57 PM
maby olga chose to wear i diffrent outfit. but i just adore their coats!!! i wonder why still. ???
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 08, 2005, 05:49:01 PM
o ok thank you lanie!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Speedycat on July 08, 2005, 08:27:25 PM
Oooh, love this pic!  Thanks for posting it.  Yes, I too have seen others in this series, near this tree, sitting on the ground etc., but never this one :D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on July 08, 2005, 10:49:18 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/clockworkgirl21/untitled.bmp


Here's Aleksey at his christining.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 09, 2005, 09:28:13 AM
aww alix is so motherly!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 09, 2005, 09:29:06 AM
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Oooh, love this pic!  Thanks for posting it.  Yes, I too have seen others in this series, near this tree, sitting on the ground etc., but never this one :D


your welcome. would you mind posting them? of course if you have them!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Michelle on July 09, 2005, 04:01:58 PM
Hey can someone color this picture? ;D  I would, but I have to wait until I get my own computer complete with Adobe Photshop, which isn't until August. :(
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 09, 2005, 04:07:23 PM
I color them with pastels, watercolors, or pencils, so I might have a hard copy in a few days (but no scanner!), sorry.  ::)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Michelle on July 09, 2005, 04:09:04 PM
Oh that's okay, Margarita.  I meant can anyone color it with their own Adobe Photshop or Paint Shop?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lisa on July 09, 2005, 04:22:00 PM
here it is...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/oltatsnow.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Michelle on July 09, 2005, 05:41:58 PM
OMG!  Thank you, Lisa!  It's gorgeous! :D :-*
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on July 09, 2005, 06:31:58 PM
Hmm. What does Tatiana have around her neck?
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Post by: clockworkgirl21 on July 09, 2005, 06:34:21 PM
(http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/otmarunning.jpg)
Here's one with them running.
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Post by: Abby on July 09, 2005, 10:28:28 PM
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Hmm. What does Tatiana have around her neck?



I think that is the collar of their shirts under the peacoat (Olga is wearing one, too)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 10, 2005, 08:49:51 AM
o thank you so much for those picture. itsg reat. i think its her shuirt. olga soes have one too.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 10, 2005, 10:39:29 AM
Wow, that might be the most realistic colored photo I have ever seen! Whoa...  :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lisa on July 12, 2005, 02:42:34 AM
Thanks! :D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: RealAnastasia on July 12, 2005, 07:17:53 PM
Olga is alive again in your beatiful colorized photo, Lisa!

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 12, 2005, 08:54:03 PM
is this at the same tree? is this maria also?
(http://www.geocities.com/cbsunshine88/romanov667.jpeg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Laura Mabee on July 13, 2005, 10:05:50 AM
Thanks Grandduchess_42!
I've never seen that picture before
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Abby on July 13, 2005, 11:27:40 AM
Yep I beleive its the same tree. Aww look how cute Maria looks! :D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on July 13, 2005, 11:37:06 AM
Maria   looks so cute :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 13, 2005, 07:13:17 PM
So was this picture cut, or is there a full version? ???
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 13, 2005, 07:14:57 PM
And yes this picture was definetely taken at the Alexadner Palace, there's another one of Alexei pulling someone up the snow mountain, i think, i forgot that that picture went!

Can someone please post it if they have it?

thanx!

~Anastacia~
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 13, 2005, 09:18:01 PM
K I found the picture, here it is!:
(http://www.geocities.com/alexeitsarevich/kolya_258x186.jpg)
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Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 14, 2005, 10:46:22 AM
yes i agree she does look very cute there. aw good i'm glad it was at the right moment! your welcome!  ;D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 14, 2005, 01:03:07 PM
The adorale outfits they wore when they were all little amaze me, they are just the cutest little things! ;D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: divine_grace on July 14, 2005, 06:55:47 PM
So that tells us that Anastasia was the one pulling Olga up, not Alexei because Alexei wasn't wearing a long coat(It looked like he was), Tatiana was the one taking the picture?  Besisdes Alexei was wearing his Standart cap. Not a winter hat.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 14, 2005, 06:59:42 PM
The girl pulling Tatiana up is probably Anastasia because of her height and all, but you never know it could be Marie, its certantly not Alexei!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: RealAnastasia on July 14, 2005, 07:16:51 PM
It seems a boy, not a girl. I don't know if he is Alexei, but I'm almost sure that "she" is not Maria. Anyone...?

RealAnastasia.

Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 15, 2005, 02:09:28 PM
Olga looks somewhat grumpy, doesn't she?
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Post by: nerdycool on July 15, 2005, 05:32:51 PM
She looks more distracted than anything...
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Helene on July 16, 2005, 12:19:57 AM
Does someone have a picture of Anastasia alone in front of a tree, too ?
A pic of Olga  :
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/Angevine/20.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on July 16, 2005, 12:44:50 AM
The ones of Olga and Maria in front of the tree were taken in 1903.  The one of Tatiana, I don't know; there are some group pics of OTMA on a bench from the 1903 photographic session.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 16, 2005, 11:04:17 AM
thanks lanie. is this the picture you were talking about?

(http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/otmabenchlittle.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: DeAnochka on July 25, 2005, 12:36:01 AM
I just love this picture. It shows Olga actually having some fun. Is there a full version of this exact same picture? Lanie, how do you know it's Alexei?  
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: trixiebelle on July 25, 2005, 09:10:55 AM
Lisa,

I love your colorized version of Olga in the snow !  You've made the background so pretty, like twilight in the snow, where its a bluish haze.  My favorite time in winter is the twilight.  :D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: matushka on July 25, 2005, 02:28:44 PM
I do not think it is 1917, the children were ill a very long time and Alexei would not have wearing his Standart uniform in january. Probably end of 1914, beginning of 1915. Lanie? The second person looks like Anastasia.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on July 25, 2005, 04:22:30 PM
I know it was taken in 1916... because I've seen a bunch of other photos from that and they're all dated 1916.  I'm not sure--now it does look like it was Anastasia pulling Olga around.  She looks too short, but maybe that's just the angle of the photograph, she might be leaning down to grab Olga's hands.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: matushka on July 26, 2005, 03:07:27 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 29, 2005, 12:56:57 AM
I know that the girl who is standing is Olga, but doesen't she look a tad bit like Anastasia? ???
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Olga_Anna on July 31, 2005, 10:48:23 PM
Hi, I'm a newbie. I've been interested in the Romanovs for about 2 years. My favorite Romanov is Olga. ( She's so pretty! ) I hope I can learn more about them here. :)

I was wondering if there is a 'last' picture of Olga? If there is could could someone post it?

Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Aliss_Kande on August 01, 2005, 09:32:12 AM
I don't know whether or not this is the absolute last photo of Olga, but it is certainly one of the last.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/Angevine/aloru.jpg
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Robby on August 01, 2005, 09:57:32 AM
I taught it was this one:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b314/Robby_/Delaatstefotovanhunallemaal1917.jpg)
On the roof, in Tobolsk. 1917.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Olga_Anna on August 01, 2005, 11:17:39 AM
Thanks ! :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Abby on August 01, 2005, 12:07:00 PM
yep its the one Aliss_Kande posted - they were on board the Rus, going to Ekaterinburg. The other one is when they were in Tobolsk, before they left for Ekat. :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on August 01, 2005, 12:29:05 PM
Who's the boy in that picture?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Robby on August 01, 2005, 01:14:22 PM
That's Alexei i taught
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: dianoshka on August 01, 2005, 02:24:49 PM
Welcome Olga_Anne! :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Duchess_Scarlett on August 01, 2005, 02:30:16 PM
Yes the boy in the picture is without question Alexei, that's the last picture ever taken of him.

And welcome to the site Olga_Anne :)

Scarlett
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Olga_Anna on August 01, 2005, 02:35:54 PM
 ??? I thought it was the one of Alexei sitting up in bed
with his hands up.

And thanks everybody!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on August 01, 2005, 03:13:49 PM
Thanks Duchess_Scarlett and Robby!  :-[ I can't believe I didn't know who it was...
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Abby on August 01, 2005, 03:27:44 PM
Yep it's Alexei. The pic of him in Tobolsk showed him with his hands up. In one of the books (Radzinsky's 'The Last Tsar', I think) the pic is mis-identified as having been taken in the Ipatiev house but it was taken in the Governor's Mansion.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 01, 2005, 07:43:04 PM
is olga doing a one wheeler here?
(http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/olgabike.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on August 01, 2005, 08:20:48 PM
Nah, the shadow looks like someone else's head (who is walking in front of her) not her wheel.

Plus, they would be laughing.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 02, 2005, 12:01:36 AM
What's a one wheeler?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Olga_Anna on August 02, 2005, 07:50:29 AM
Like a whillie. (That's what I call them. ) You ride with one wheel in the air. 8)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Laura Mabee on August 02, 2005, 10:01:03 AM
I couldn't see a Duchess do a wheelie in front of her conservitive mother, but the idea got me laughing ^_^

;D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on August 05, 2005, 09:02:11 PM
I think she is doing something like a wheellie or what ever, it defenitly doesen't look like that front wheel is on the ground!

~Anastacia~
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Olga_Anna on August 07, 2005, 11:58:29 PM
It might just be me, but it kinda looks like Olga is riding aside on the bike. Would'nt she tip over? I know they rode aside on horses. Did they ride aside on bikes, too?  ???  As I said my eyes might be playing tricks on me.  
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 08, 2005, 08:17:28 AM
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It might just be me, but it kinda looks like Olga is riding aside on the bike. Would'nt she tip over? I know they rode aside on horses. Did they ride aside on bikes, too?  ???  As I said my eyes might be playing tricks on me.  


i agree it does look like that she is riding on the side. but i think back in those days didn't women ride like that?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on August 08, 2005, 04:51:15 PM
Whoa she is ridding on the side, I can see both of her feet on one side! You have to look really close!

~Anastacia~
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Olga_Anna on August 08, 2005, 07:43:44 PM
Would'nt she tip over?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Georgiy on August 09, 2005, 04:24:03 PM
She was probably about to get off of her bike. You could not ride any great distance at all like that. And no, ladies rode bikes the normal way. That is why bikes for females don't have the bar across the top from the seat to the handle bars, because in the old days when all women wore skirts always, it would have been impossible to ride a bike in a skirt with a bar in the way.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 10, 2005, 11:04:01 AM
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Olga looks somewhat grumpy, doesn't she?


i agree she does look very "sour" in this picture.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on August 17, 2005, 12:43:43 PM
But if you look really closely at the picture, now it looks like both her feet are on oposite sides :-/
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 17, 2005, 12:54:24 PM
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But if you look really closely at the picture, now it looks like both her feet are on oposite sides :-/


not really. because you can see her knees on that one side.
Title: Wedding Ring?
Post by: Olga_Anna on November 26, 2005, 04:54:21 PM
Could this be a wedding ring or engagment ring? It's on the left hand and on the wedding finger. What do you think?:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/Olga_Anne/Olga23.jpg
Title: Re: Wedding Ring?
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on November 26, 2005, 04:57:07 PM
Well, she never bacame engaged to anyone, so I don't know why she'd have an engagement ring on. I think it's just a ring.
Title: Re: Wedding Ring?
Post by: Sarushka on November 26, 2005, 05:13:09 PM
In Russian Orthodoxy, the wedding ring is worn on the right hand.  :)
Title: Re: Wedding Ring?
Post by: Olga_Anna on November 26, 2005, 09:14:09 PM
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In Russian Orthodoxy, the wedding ring is worn on the right hand.  :)

Ohhh...Ok. Thank you.  :-[  :)

Title: Re: Wedding Ring?
Post by: matushka on November 27, 2005, 03:42:08 PM
Sarushka is right. I add that the engagement ring and the weeding ring is the same in Orthodox tradition: we receive the ring at the ceremony of engagement, which can be a few month or only... a few minutes before the weeding. After this ceremony, you are officialy engaged and there is no return possible. So,  we would have known about that, id Olga engaged herself with someone!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Tsarina_Liz on December 03, 2005, 11:24:16 PM
I have to say I like that pic of the Empress and the little boy.  Shows a very different side of her (i.e. motherly and loving).  Certainly that woman making faces is not the same one most people got a glimpse of back then!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: julia.montague on December 04, 2005, 07:19:00 AM
Yesterday I saw this photo of Olga and the girl at Livadia and asked myself who she could be and today I find this topic here ;D
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on January 05, 2006, 09:49:12 PM
Hello!

I was just wondering: Laura Mabee send a lot of nice pictures of Olga in the topic named "Olga Pictures III", but do the little girl on the pastel is Olga or Maria?

I'm sure it is Maria, so I send here what I think is Olga:
(http://www.galereia.ru/node/737?size=_original)

Here is the original pastel I'm talking about (Maria)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/Olgas-Images/Romanov/Olga/15.jpg)

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but either I am or not, please give feedback about what you think!

Sophia S.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on January 05, 2006, 09:56:36 PM
Sorry, I did something wrong in the first post. ???
Here is the link where you can see this pastel of Olga.

http://www.galereia.ru/node/737?size=_original

And if doesn't work this time, here is the address:

http://www.galereia.ru/node/737?size=_original

Bye!
Sophia S.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Olga_Anna on January 05, 2006, 09:59:04 PM
The one you think is Olga is Maria. The one you think is Maria is Olga.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: RealAnastasia on January 05, 2006, 10:37:10 PM
Yep...The problem is that both girls were very close in physical features, and when they grew-up it was more evident than ever.

When Maria pinned her hair up, she was almost a twing of her elder sister Olga. Only the shape of their heads   and their noses were different.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 06, 2006, 07:13:54 AM
its totally olga... there is thread of the picture one... it says that its olga.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on January 07, 2006, 12:32:50 AM
Hi again,

Well, the more I look about the pictures, the more I agree that I was originaly wrong. Can't remember why I first considered the first pastel as Maria, though.

I've read somewhere that those pastels were lost in the revolution. They've been hanged in the Alexander palace's rooms for years, when the family was living there.

Look on the walls of this photo. We see at least those two, one left, one right of the furniture in the center.
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/maplegirls.html

Does anybody knows when they were painted? Were they drawn the same year? By the looks of Maria, Olga and Tatiana on this photo, I'd say it was before 1907, probably in 1905 or 1906.

I agree anyway with this: Olga and Maria had a lot of common physical features. I wouldn't say they were identical twins, but you could see they were sisters.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: snugglemummy on January 08, 2006, 08:20:03 PM
Well,  that first picture you posted, at the start of the thread - I myself initially came across it in a biopraphy of Louis Mountbatten, where it was presented as "the photograph of Maria that he kept beside his bed all his life."

Sarah.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: snugglemummy on January 08, 2006, 08:23:04 PM
Sorry, I meant picture, not photograph!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on January 09, 2006, 08:16:12 AM
It seems to me they might have taken these paintings into exile. I think I remember seeing a photo of Alix's sitting area in Tobolsk with the pictures on the wall. I will have a look in House of Special Purpose and see what I find.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: GrandDuchess_Bella on January 09, 2006, 05:23:15 PM
I can't remember where but I think I have seen these before and I was very confused. They did look stunningly alike and sometimes I still confuse them lol.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on January 09, 2006, 11:46:24 PM
Yes! It's that, thank you! I also saw the picture of who I now think is Olga in the book about Mountbatten.

And if my memory don't fail me, they were also Christmas postcards signed up by the children and send to Mountbatten and his sisters in this book. They were cousins, afterall. :)

But do anyboby knows about the year those pictures were drawn?
and if Maria and Olga were painted, where are Anastasia and Tatiana?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on January 09, 2006, 11:55:55 PM
That is not the drawing labeled as a photo Mountbatten kept by his bed.  The photo he kept by his bed was of Maria in 1914.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: XJaseyRaeX on January 10, 2006, 08:07:06 PM
are there any drawings like that of Anastasia and Tatiana?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Olga_Anna on January 10, 2006, 10:08:40 PM
Not that I know of.....
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on January 22, 2006, 10:49:34 AM
Who has this pic of Olga in full???

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8220/unbenannt17fm.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 22, 2006, 11:16:09 AM
yeah i'v been wondering about that too. but i can't seem to find it. i'v seen the avatar that lanie had. but i have never seen the whole thing. is there even a whole one?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: anna11 on February 03, 2006, 11:57:27 PM
There are 2 photos Im looking for that i saw in a thread here somewhere. and i think they might have been taken on the same day because Olga is wearing the same outfit in both of them.

One of them is of Olga and Anastasia, i think Ana may be sitting on Olga's lap but im not sure. Olga is holding a book and reading it and Ana is looking at the camera.

The other one is of Alix and Olga. Alix is lying on a couch sewing and has a pin or something in her mouth and olga is looking at her smiling.

Does anyone have the photos I mean? And do they know where they were taken?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Laura Mabee on February 04, 2006, 12:35:04 AM
I know both images you mean. They can both be found on Yales site. I'll upload them tomorrow if nobody beats me to it
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Katia on February 04, 2006, 05:10:02 AM
Do you mean these photos, Anna?

http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/olgagiggle.jpg

http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/olgaana2.jpg
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: LarissaAnn on February 04, 2006, 11:22:37 AM
I have the one of Olga and Alexandra a bit clearer here

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/LarissaAnn/OlgaandherMum.jpg

Lovely portraits, both of them
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: anna11 on February 04, 2006, 07:43:39 PM
Yes! Thanks heaps.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on February 09, 2006, 05:28:21 AM
Hey, for al lot time Mandie post this color pic. Now i saw that its a new from the 1914 Livadia session, Olga looking another as on the other Pictures from this session, or? What do you mean?
And who has the s/w and in full version?

(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8281/olgaaa7ce.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=olgaaa7ce.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on February 09, 2006, 05:30:38 AM
Its not one of these!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/Olgas-Images/Romanov/Olga/31.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/Olgas-Images/Romanov/Olga/29.jpg
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on February 09, 2006, 08:11:53 AM
It actually looks like a mirror of the first one, IMHO.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: imperial angel on February 09, 2006, 10:11:17 AM
That really is a very lovely image of Olga! It is one of the formal ones isn't it?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on February 09, 2006, 10:18:41 AM
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That really is a very lovely image of Olga! It is one of the formal ones isn't it?

Indeed it is. ;)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 09, 2006, 05:16:35 PM
she must have been turning around or somthing.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Margarita Markovna on February 09, 2006, 08:41:25 PM
Actually Emily, for the formal photos they were posed by the photographer and were standing completely still for the photo.  ;)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 10, 2006, 04:59:54 PM
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Actually Emily, for the formal photos they were posed by the photographer and were standing completely still for the photo.  ;)


No way really? weird.  

i know one of alexei when hes truning around. i wonder if theirs one of Tatiana.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: anna11 on February 15, 2006, 02:50:53 AM
Yeh If you move only slightly when your getting your picture taken with one of thes camera's the photo turns out blurry.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 16, 2006, 04:25:48 PM
Quote
Yeh If you move only slightly when your getting your picture taken with one of thes camera's the photo turns out blurry.


true... but still she could have done it.. very... very slowly!  :P
Title: Translation of a postcard of Olga
Post by: Sarastasia on October 28, 2006, 07:08:59 AM
Heya everyone
I was wondering if anyone could (help) translate this postcard of Olga. I'd be okay if it were modern Russian - but not old Russian!
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/SaraFeodorovna/th_olish.jpg) (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/SaraFeodorovna/olish.jpg)

Any help would be appreciated!!!

Yours, Sarastasia xx
Title: Re: Translation of a postcard of Olga
Post by: Sarushka on October 28, 2006, 08:21:11 AM
The top says "The Special Petrogradskii Committee of Her Imperial Highness Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna."

Bottom: "Providing charitable aid to famillies and individuals called upon by the war."

This is a rough translation with much help from my dictionary -- any better/native speakers please correct me!
Title: Re: Translation of a postcard of Olga
Post by: grandduchess_42 on October 28, 2006, 10:33:05 AM
thats a great poster!
where was it posted?

in the hospital maybe?
Title: Re: Translation of a postcard of Olga
Post by: Sarastasia on October 28, 2006, 04:12:41 PM
Well, on Livadia.org it is actually credited as a postcard. Which I guess people could buy and send.

Thanks Sarushka for the translation. If your translation is correct, it's a very nice message!
Title: Re: Translation of a postcard of Olga
Post by: grandduchess_42 on October 28, 2006, 05:10:51 PM
oh ok!

thanks so much!
Title: Re: Translation of a postcard of Olga
Post by: Lanie on November 04, 2006, 04:42:53 PM
Indeed it was a post card; Olga and Tatiana had postcards sold with their photographs on it for their respective war committees to raise money.
Title: Re: Translation of a postcard of Olga
Post by: Sarastasia on November 04, 2006, 04:52:30 PM
Yeah, I thought so. Were there some with them as nurses?
But, I think that this particular postcard has a drawing on it and not a photograph.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lanie on March 05, 2007, 05:39:26 AM
I have that one of Olga b ut I'm on my laptop visiting my mom, no access to my Romanov pictures as they're on my desktop at home.  I should put them all on my laptop since I don't have my desktop at school either.  Anyway!  Sarushka or Laura Mabee might have it since they both I think have my photo collection in its entirety.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on March 08, 2007, 07:57:16 AM
I had to go back to Lanie's original CD to find this -- I guess I thought it was a reversed duplicate of this one (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/Olgas-Images/Romanov/Olga/31.jpg) and never transferred it to my own collection!  :D

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_Olga9.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/Olga9.jpg)

Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Rodney_G. on March 21, 2007, 06:36:17 PM


  I just re-viewed some of the later posts on this this thread and though I'd seen it before , I have to say LarissaAnn's photo (reply148) is priceless!        Seeing Olga smiling and happy still makes my day : :) :) :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Binky on March 22, 2007, 08:49:15 AM
Me too!  I like to look at pictures of Olga when I eat breakfast but onetime I got eggs on my book and it made the pages stick even though I wiped it off.  So now I just look at her pictures when I'm doing other stuff.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on April 06, 2007, 09:57:29 PM
I had to go back to Lanie's original CD to find this -- I guess I thought it was a reversed duplicate of this one (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/Olgas-Images/Romanov/Olga/31.jpg) and never transferred it to my own collection!  :D

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_Olga9.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/Olga9.jpg)



those are great!
it seems... that Olga has most of the head shots out of the Granduchesses during the 1914
shoots. 
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on April 06, 2007, 10:01:58 PM
It sure seems that way. But I wonder how many more formal photos have never been published....?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: grandduchess_42 on April 07, 2007, 09:50:03 AM
that could be true!
i hope they will be if there are any missing!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Lyss on August 31, 2007, 09:08:39 AM
Hi, could someone place and date a photo for me. I'm drawing it now, and don't know when it was taking.
It's the one where Tatiana and Olga are sitting on a balcony having lessons with Gilliard. There is a mountainrange to be seen in the background.
I think it was taken at Livadia, but am not sure.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Rachael89 on August 31, 2007, 10:23:50 AM
If it's  the photo I'm thinking of it was taken in 1911, and as you say Livadia - you'd need to post it for us to be sure.

Rachael
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on September 08, 2007, 08:34:23 AM
This one?

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/th_gilliardbigpair.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/gilliardbigpair.jpg)

It looks to me like Olga's hair is up (no big hair bow like Tatiana), so it could actually be 1912.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ivana antonijevic on September 13, 2007, 09:25:24 PM
It was taken in 1912 - Livadia... and we can see Gilliard, Tatiana and MARIA(not Olga)  http://bibliotekar.ru/rusSamozvancy/24.htm (http://bibliotekar.ru/rusSamozvancy/24.htm)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on September 13, 2007, 09:42:25 PM
It was taken in 1912 - Livadia... and we can see Gilliard, Tatiana and MARIA(not Olga)  http://bibliotekar.ru/rusSamozvancy/24.htm (http://bibliotekar.ru/rusSamozvancy/24.htm)

I'm afraid that site is incorrect -- it is actually Olga and Tatiana. Maria would not have been wearing her hair up in 1912. Here are two photos of the little pair taken at the same time to prove my point:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Little%20Pair/th_MAbalcony.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Little%20Pair/MAbalcony.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/th_7-154b1913.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/7-154b1913.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on September 13, 2007, 10:49:34 PM
I've always seen the one of Gilliard and OT labeled as 1910, but 1912 makes more sense. Tatiana always looked too big to be 13 to me.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 08, 2008, 04:16:24 AM
I have sumbled upon this picture and it says it´s royal martyr Olga, but´with no additional information. Do you think it´s "our" Olga?

(http://bp3.blogger.com/_zF6Sici2JYw/Rq_RN3yD4FI/AAAAAAAAAHM/-ky4olq7Fks/s400/St.+Olga+scan+300+dpi.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: matushka on February 08, 2008, 09:42:31 AM
It is, indeed.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: SweetAngels on February 27, 2009, 10:39:21 AM
Yes it could be Olga, even do I by the first look I didn't think that it was Olga but it could be Olga in her early years before her 16th birthday.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nena on February 27, 2009, 11:29:41 AM
I think so, that's 'our' Olga Nicholaievna Romanov(a).
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nena on May 28, 2009, 05:55:42 PM
Please, is there full one of this (http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Olga/olgatree.jpg) my cropped? It is whole OTMA session near three in early 1900s. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on November 03, 2009, 02:05:16 AM
Recently an Olga formal 1916 postcard was sold along with other Romanov items...  it's the twin to the Tatiana's  1916 that has been seen quite a bit. On one of the threads , I saw referance to this Olga formal  portrait in a photo thread , but the link was broken  :'(
Has it been posted? Does someone have it??

Thank you in advance!

here is the news report about the sale

http://www.ippo.ru/novosti-2009-g./relikvii-priblizhennogo-k-tsarskoy-semje-roda-hitrovo-vernulisj-v-rossiyu-s-videofaylom.html
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on November 03, 2009, 02:39:36 AM
I posted the picture to the forum som etimes ago, but it´s nothingmore than a screencap from this or very similar video.

(http://nd01.blog.cz/298/891/5cdcfc4eae_44828018_u.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on November 03, 2009, 12:01:19 PM
I posted the picture to the forum sometime ago, but it´s nothing more than a screencap from this or very similar video.

(http://nd01.blog.cz/298/891/5cdcfc4eae_44828018_u.jpg)

Thank you so much ! I believe where you posted it last time ,
the link is now broken....and a screen cap is better than nothing.

Thank you again!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 28, 2009, 05:46:45 PM
Does anyone know when the picture of Olga in a sailor suit holding some flowers outside was taken? I'm guessing 1906, but i could be totally wrong...
I don't know how to post pictures, but if you want to see it it's on Olga's wikipedia page.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nena on December 28, 2009, 06:45:03 PM
I think the one must have been taken sometime after 1906. It is labeled as 'Grand Duchess Olga gathers flowers during a summer cruise aboard the Imperial yacht. Courtesy: Beinecke Library.'. I believe it was taken in Finland. There was one 1907 summer cruise to Finland.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 28, 2009, 08:18:30 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: victoriakin on January 08, 2010, 07:02:18 AM
New question about a photo on the website. I'm not really knowledgeable about who is who in the family portrait consisting of the four girls and the boy. There isn't a caption. I wonder if you would please tell me, who is who of the girls, top left to bottom right in the photo:

(http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/slide_show/aleksey/pic4.jpg)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 08, 2010, 07:43:00 AM
From the left: Grand Duchess Tatiana, Grand Duchess Anastasia, Grand Duchess Olga and Grand Duchess Maria. In front of them Tsarevich Alexei.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: victoriakin on January 08, 2010, 08:58:37 AM
From the left: Grand Duchess Tatiana, Grand Duchess Anastasia, Grand Duchess Olga and Grand Duchess Maria. In front of them Tsarevich Alexei.

Are you saying that the bottom right is Grand Duchess Olga, or the bottom left is Grand Duchess Olga?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: SweetAngels on January 08, 2010, 09:22:44 AM
It is Alexei in the center with Olga behind him, Maria is net to the flower and Tatiana next to the exit and that leaves Anastasia to be in front of Tatiana :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Tasia on January 13, 2010, 06:43:39 AM
From the left: Grand Duchess Tatiana, Grand Duchess Anastasia, Grand Duchess Olga and Grand Duchess Maria. In front of them Tsarevich Alexei.

Are you saying that the bottom right is Grand Duchess Olga, or the bottom left is Grand Duchess Olga?
GD Olga is the one behind the boy that's Tsarevich Alexei !!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Tasia on January 16, 2010, 06:43:36 AM
Hope you've cleared your mind xD
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: victoriakin on January 18, 2010, 09:26:50 AM
Hope you've cleared your mind xD

Indeed, though now I'm confused, since I asked only about the girls, why Alexei was consistently brought into the descriptions of the girls' positioning? I think who Alexei is in the photo is the easiest part! :-)

Everyone knows traditional photo identifications run top left to top right, then bottom left to bottom right, and somehow,
this proved too great for you to perform. I am clear now on where Olga is positioned in the photo, but I don't see
the exit being described. Is that on the left side of the photo? How do you know it is an exit?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 18, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
Everyone knows traditional photo identifications run top left to top right, then bottom left to bottom right, and somehow,
this proved too great for you to perform.

Everyone knows what it means when somebody writes: "From the left"
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Holly on January 18, 2010, 12:36:15 PM
Indeed, though now I'm confused, since I asked only about the girls, why Alexei was consistently brought into the descriptions of the girls' positioning? I think who Alexei is in the photo is the easiest part! :-)

Everyone knows traditional photo identifications run top left to top right, then bottom left to bottom right, and somehow,
this proved too great for you to perform. I am clear now on where Olga is positioned in the photo, but I don't see
the exit being described. Is that on the left side of the photo? How do you know it is an exit?

I don't see how it isn't easy in the first place.

If people are trying to help your confused mind with identifying a picture you really have no right to be rude about not being able to get it.

The exit is obviously an exit because you can see the opening to the outside with trees. It's right between Olga and Tatiana if you know who they are.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Tasia on January 18, 2010, 01:38:36 PM
Hope you've cleared your mind xD

Indeed, though now I'm confused, since I asked only about the girls, why Alexei was consistently brought into the descriptions of the girls' positioning? I think who Alexei is in the photo is the easiest part! :-)

That's it, because he's the easiest part to describe, so I've used he showing that Olga was the person behind he. Simple ^^""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""".
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: victoriakin on January 20, 2010, 12:33:31 AM
Indeed, though now I'm confused, since I asked only about the girls, why Alexei was consistently brought into the descriptions of the girls' positioning? I think who Alexei is in the photo is the easiest part! :-)

Everyone knows traditional photo identifications run top left to top right, then bottom left to bottom right, and somehow,
this proved too great for you to perform. I am clear now on where Olga is positioned in the photo, but I don't see
the exit being described. Is that on the left side of the photo? How do you know it is an exit?

I don't see how it isn't easy in the first place.

If people are trying to help your confused mind with identifying a picture you really have no right to be rude about not being able to get it.

The exit is obviously an exit because you can see the opening to the outside with trees. It's right between Olga and Tatiana if you know who they are.

I did not mean to appear rude and sorry that impression was given. I think that I was more confused with the answers and so I had to restate the question. When there are numerous rows, it is unclear if there is the pattern such as from left to the go-round of clockwise when dealing with the lower, or counter-clockwise when going round to the upper row. I'm just accustomed to having the photo line-ups defined with clarity so that upper rows and lower rows are defined specifically or the direction of "counter-clockwise from the left" being the circular pattern to go upwards from downwards. As you can see, the question I asked apparently did not get seen as a specific pleading for clarity but was viewed as an opportunity to test my voracity to decide which direction I was to view what someone decided to say. One could surmise that the rudeness may be in the eye of the beholder, or the holder, of the needed favor. Being that as it may be, I am new here, and I am taking my references from conventions outside of this forum. My lack of knowledge that those conventions are not applied here is a thing that I'd like to point out. As it is, I'm very surprised to see as many photos here as I do see, and in some photos I'm more able to spot who may be who because the captions are shown in the conventions I am familiar with.

I am clear about who in the photo is Olga now, thanks to your efforts here who have helped answer my question and for that I thank you. I'd like to still be clear about the exit, as I still don't see an exit. I wasn't in the room; dare I say that none of us was? Where is the exit? I see you describing an exit with markers, but I don't see the markers.

My personality is a bit on the sardonic side, either that or starkingly comedic. But I do not intend to be rude. Thanks to all.

Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 20, 2010, 02:51:17 AM
"Exit" is right behind the children, but it´s not a door. The room is actually a part of a balcony. You can see it better in these pics:
The one in question in full:
http://nd01.blog.cz/016/967/fec5e44138_41928912_o2.jpg

And the same place, same day, only with cutrtains drawn back
http://nd01.blog.cz/667/103/96caf0018d_41928929_o2.jpg
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on January 20, 2010, 12:26:03 PM
Ally, thanks for posting those two big files...love those photos. I can imagine Alexandra standing next to the photogher. I say that because most of the children are looking to the side of the lcamera with far more intensity than the two looking into it! lol!  Just imo.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 01, 2010, 03:57:57 PM
i found this on ebay and since the seller always sells rubbish with "royalty" Ids i dediced to ask about it here.


This picture says its Olga. I ve seen picturtes of baby olga and for what i ve seen, its very possible its here but i need second thoughts

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2djcdts.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 01, 2010, 04:16:51 PM
I actually think it really might be Olga.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on February 01, 2010, 04:31:11 PM
Don't you think the background is a little uncommonly undignified for an imperial photo? I've never seen a royal in those days photographed in front of such an industrial outbuilding, not even in photos from their private albums, only from photos taken in exile or captivity. (Though it could very well be from a courtyard at a home farm or an agricultural estate.) If it was an imperial photo, it sure wasn't intended for publication, but comes from a private album, and then it ending up on e-Bay is even less likely.

I'm no expert, will be interesting to hear if experts think that this odd-looking photo could be imperial.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 01, 2010, 05:09:49 PM
Well, these are all the Grand Duchesses - in front of what might be a stable, so I wouldn´t dismiss the picture just because of the building...

(http://nd03.blog.cz/615/429/6a4a7f4c35_61257343_u.jpg)

But you DO have a point.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: imperatrice on February 01, 2010, 07:28:58 PM
i found this on ebay and since the seller always sells rubbish with "royalty" Ids i dediced to ask about it here.


This picture says its Olga. I ve seen picturtes of baby olga and for what i ve seen, its very possible its here but i need second thoughts

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2djcdts.jpg)
I actually think it really might be Olga.
Don't you think the background is a little uncommonly undignified for an imperial photo? I've never seen a royal in those days photographed in front of such an industrial outbuilding, not even in photos from their private albums, only from photos taken in exile or captivity. (Though it could very well be from a courtyard at a home farm or an agricultural estate.) If it was an imperial photo, it sure wasn't intended for publication, but comes from a private album, and then it ending up on e-Bay is even less likely.

I'm no expert, will be interesting to hear if experts think that this odd-looking photo could be imperial.
Well, these are all the Grand Duchesses - in front of what might be a stable, so I wouldn´t dismiss the picture just because of the building...

(http://nd03.blog.cz/615/429/6a4a7f4c35_61257343_u.jpg)

But you DO have a point.

   I've seen this seller on e-bay also.  just curious  why do you say her stuff is rubbish?  the seller say she has  C O A for it.

by the way who do you think is the lady in the background?

 
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Grand Duchess Jennifer on February 01, 2010, 09:34:33 PM
Don't you think the background is a little uncommonly undignified for an imperial photo? I've never seen a royal in those days photographed in front of such an industrial outbuilding, not even in photos from their private albums, only from photos taken in exile or captivity. (Though it could very well be from a courtyard at a home farm or an agricultural estate.) If it was an imperial photo, it sure wasn't intended for publication, but comes from a private album, and then it ending up on e-Bay is even less likely.

I'm no expert, will be interesting to hear if experts think that this odd-looking photo could be imperial.

I see what you mean. It looks like it was taken in a poorer part of town. I don't think this picture is of Olga, but it could be.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on February 02, 2010, 01:00:07 AM
Looks remarkably like Olga N. and while the place is run down, the child's colthes seem right.
Had to tell for sure
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on February 02, 2010, 01:06:07 AM
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Had to tell for sure
  Opps! I mean....  hard to tell for sure
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 02, 2010, 10:33:22 AM

   I've seen this seller on e-bay also.  just curious  why do you say her stuff is rubbish?  the seller say she has  C O A for it.

 

 

She or he uses to sell pictures of ordinary people and she says they re  well known royals. When you write him/her back to tell her she s wrong she answers you very rude and tell you she s not wrong and people is happy buying her/his fraudulent items. For those who know well some royals, some of her /his items are very laughable
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Condecontessa on February 02, 2010, 01:24:45 PM
It might be Olga. The building behind seems like a stable or a barn type to keep the goats etc.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on February 02, 2010, 05:35:46 PM
Quote
by the way who do you think is the lady in the background?
The lady behind the girls in Ally's picture is  Margaret Eager, their Irish nurse maid. 
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: RealAnastasia on February 02, 2010, 09:48:11 PM
I think it is Olga, and if it is not her, she is the spitting image of her! yes, the backgorund is not "imperial" at all, but baby's clothes are not the ones that people of poor condition used to wear back then. Tha lady who is with her, is also wearing "rich woman" clothes.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nena on February 03, 2010, 02:22:18 AM
Those two are new to me. Baby indeed looks like GD Olga, but as anyone says, the background is bit strange. I have no clue what that must be. The photo with goat and nurse (Margaret Eagar and Wishnyakova?) was taken approximately in 1902 at Crimea, from the source of Russian website where series of photos are located.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: victoriakin on February 03, 2010, 03:24:41 AM
i found this on ebay and since the seller always sells rubbish with "royalty" Ids i dediced to ask about it here.


This picture says its Olga. I ve seen picturtes of baby olga and for what i ve seen, its very possible its here but i need second thoughts

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2djcdts.jpg)

Regardless of the background or lack of formality of the photo, I believe this to likely be Olga. The facial expression is priceless! This photo seems to be a casual snapshot rather than a formal sitting. I would need to guess that there were such technologies available as early as that, like precursors to the Brownie.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on February 03, 2010, 12:22:07 PM
Now I'm questioning the size of the child and the dress....if this child stood up, she would be quite big. I believe by this height, Olga would have be dressed  in a type of  sailor suit, as shown in Ally's posted photo. But the face  and expressions indeed seem to be Olga Nicholaievna. I wish the photos were bigger!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carisbrooke on February 04, 2010, 01:58:52 AM
   I wonder where these photo's have been for the last 110+ years, & how many more unknown romanov photo's are out there waiting to be discovered. I suppose not all made their way into family albums, some were possibly given away to servants & retainers, and these look good candidates for that example because of the background.
    I think we are right to be suspicious, but they look convincing to me. If I was the puchaser though I would want to know their origin, COA or not.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: SweetAngels on February 04, 2010, 02:49:55 AM
To me it could be Olga but we don't know for sure. I sat looking through my collection of picture of Olga and came over some picture that could have been take the same time.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 04, 2010, 09:19:31 AM
   
    I think we are right to be suspicious, but they look convincing to me. If I was the puchaser though I would want to know their origin, COA or not.

Im not talking about this picture but others on sale about other royals (and yes, once she / he sold a postcard of a french girl as Tatiana Nicolaevna ¬¬)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on February 04, 2010, 04:24:14 PM
Im not talking about this picture but others on sale about other royals (and yes, once she / he sold a postcard of a french girl as Tatiana Nicolaevna ¬¬)
Yes, I think it's safe to sum up their offerings as "diamonds and dust.".... and one has to look out for the dust ! lol!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 04, 2010, 05:11:06 PM
Yes!. These are my favorites

This is a RARe and UNSEEN picture Of Elisaveta Fyodorovna as a preteen . Some fool spent 36 BUCKS!! in this one...

http://i49.tinypic.com/wcejaf.jpg

Another RARE of Alexandra Fyodorovna, sold at 15.50

http://i47.tinypic.com/2lcpdkx.jpg

And the most laughable of all....Maria Fyodorovna in her childhoood....with clothes of an early 20th century girl!!! (This one had SIX BIDS and was sold at 26.00)

http://i50.tinypic.com/15zmmw1.jpg

and i can go on and on. I true, this seller sometimes has great pictures about the Romanovs, but he/she makes mostly of his/her money selling fraudulent pics.


Back to the topic, i found among my pics this one of Olga with the same smile of the girl of the picture

(http://i49.tinypic.com/ir52r8.jpg)




Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on February 04, 2010, 09:47:41 PM
I was thinking of that Olga baby picture when looking at these two in question ...and both do look like Olga's gappy grin, not just one of the two.
Those other photos  are pretty funny...but what I have found is that seller's  real stuff goes for alot more than the phony items ...they had a great picture
of Olga on the one of the yachts last week that went for 131.00...while the made up royals go for much less. So people seem to know to watch out for the phony items...however the seller  shouldn't be offering them at all.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carisbrooke on February 05, 2010, 02:16:49 AM
   I share your concern about the seller Katenka, but somehow I fear we are misunderstanding each other, & I do not want this to be so. My point is if the photographs prove to be genuine, and I hope they are, then where does that leave us ? All the forum will have will be two grainy images & the rest of the information will be lost. The history is as important, if not more so than the photographs. Consider, all this we are loosing. The location of the photograph, the photographers identity and that of the lady & where the photo's have been all these years. That is why the origin of the photo's is so important, it may answer one or two of these questions. The new owner could have the answers, (if the authenticity is any good), but we have none.
   By the way, the picture of a french girl being sold as tatiana is a serious matter, but it did make me giggle.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 05, 2010, 09:10:25 AM
Well. i wish this seller knew some info about this picture, but im afraid she/he doesnt know a dime about it, . Hopefully here we have people with knowledge about imperial family and will tell us. ;-)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: EmmyLee on February 05, 2010, 06:03:19 PM
Wow, those are difficult to determine. It really does look like it could be Olga, especially when they're compared to the one of Olga that Katenka posted. The clothes seem fairly similar too.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ImperialHighness on February 06, 2010, 02:09:25 PM
I know I m not often here and maybe I m not the one to mention it- but I have seen the album of the seller you are mentionin at ebay, cause I m a restorer, Historian and I work for many museums- so one thing, it can happen that portraits are dislabeled- even my mum did mix up uncles in an old album and identified them wrongly, cause when they were young they did look so similar to each other. And I ve told the seller once at ebay that one of Tatiana offered was wrong and it was taken off ebay. I ve seen real rubbish on ebay and other auction houses, even Stade auctions at Hamburg once offered a photo of Anastasia and it was Marie of Roumania as a youg girl. They did sell it for 300 Euro and that s a shame and they were told about it many times by me and colleagues.
Why can t it be possible that a seller or someone has really rare portraits at home, collected by family members or do you think we all have seen every photo of the Romanovs that they made? I do not think so, cause every member of the family had an album and there is much in the archives lost. Just think of the fact that everyone had no interest at first in the letters that were found of Alix friend Toni Becker-Bracht- a discussion started- it can t be true and so on! But they are published now.
I do not want to blame anyone here- but some things, which you can t deny:

Members of this board did sell repros of Romanov photos at ebay some time ago, even made up as Cabinet ones, sold as repros, but this is against copyright laws, isn t it? But were they allowed and respected in this, cause they were members of this forum?

Pictures copied from books are copied in here...from Beinecke...and so on...

I remember one person in here who tried to tell everyone she has bought an antique letter of young Alix- a funny badmade fake, wasn it it?

These are only some things I can tell. I do not want to blame anyone, do not want to be rude or unpolite, my English is not well- but you should find the real bad sheeps at ebay and not sellers, who do offer great antique items. The seller you mentioned is not rude or unpolite, so maybe one of you treated this one badly- cause I know that the seller tried to publish the albums photos and no one had interest in them, but some were donated to museums and archives and I could myself examine a really rare photo of little May and Alix together, which I had never seen before to prove the authencity. And even a letter written by little Alix...the album is a wonderful find.

And the photo of Olga is Olga for sure.

I think this here isn t the place to sue others or something like that if it s not the case and just do not buy the items- it s a fuzz about nothing to discuss this. Maybe the one who started this discussion...well, maybe the member is not able to buy them and just so dissapointed to do this all.

If I would think an item is not correct or a fake, I would not bid on it. :)

I hope you do understand what I mean, but if you want I can show you links to real fake items at ebay- just think of the blaming fact that people do sell items used by Jews or photos of them to get money...horrible.

I do not want to offend anyone and if I had done it I m sorry, but I wanted to share my thoughts and feelings towards all this.

Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 06, 2010, 02:26:33 PM

Members of this board did sell repros of Romanov photos at ebay some time ago, even made up as Cabinet ones, sold as repros, but this is against copyright laws, isn t it? But were they allowed and respected in this, cause they were members of this forum?

 


Yes, some lurkers and non active members did that  and thats why we watermark rare pictures to avoid to see them on ebay


Quote
.well, maybe the member is not able to buy them and just so dissapointed to do this all

Im sorry?. I do have money to buy old pictures but im not interested in stuff about NAOTMAA. I wonder how you got that conclusion. The proofs about what this seller is doing are pretty clear and i think its right to alert people , in special those who re starting to know about royalty about this kind of Sellers. NO ONE has denied this seller has pretty good stuff about romanovs (sometimes) but mostly of his/her are pictures of ordinary people with "royal labels".

This seller maybe was nice with you and withdrew that phoney pic of Tatiana but with me and other members of this forum who nicely told him/ her he/she was mistaken was totally unpolite .

Here s what he/ she said to one of the  posters about  his/her items...

A few days ago I wrote to the seller that the girl on the CDV is not Marie Valerie and that there were more people who told the same.
He/she wrote that I was the only one who had written that it was not her and that some other people (the ones that made a bid) were very happy with such a a great find.

Thats sounds like someone who wants to make money of people who has NO idea about royals . Thats wrong and its not just a thing of mislabeled pictures, its take advantage of people .

Ps: Re reading your message i think you re talkin about other ebay seller who also has great pictures of Romanovs (ST_Moritz). I ve helped him/ her to put right ids to his/ her pictures and he/she is very nice and polite
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on February 06, 2010, 03:46:58 PM
as Katenka_Fyodorovna  pointed out, as far as this thread is concerned, we have totally acknowledgedthe seller does indeed offer real items....that's why we are discussing it at all. If there was no real items, it wouldn't be of much interest. It's a difficult situation...because as you say , there's no reason a private person can't have a real photo.  Thank you for your post , I learned alot!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ImperialHighness on February 07, 2010, 01:53:55 AM
@Katenka,

I want to make some things clear- first you said things like that the seller at ebay does not a dime about the photo- that s not true- you just have to ask.

You said:
Yes, some lurkers and non active members did that  and thats why we watermark rare pictures to avoid to see them on ebay

Unfortunatelly this isn t true at all- there were two very active members here who sold those photos and even to each other, but no one mentioned that here and that frustrated me, cause there is another seller from UK now who offers printes of photos, copies- okay, marked as copies, but it s not okay- I m talking about something which is called "Doppelmoral" in German, I think, my German is not very well- but I know the term- it s used in situations like these- to allow a part of people to sell stuff and attack others...I can t explain it better, but I came up to the term when I read your words.

You said:
Im sorry?. I do have money to buy old pictures but im not interested in stuff about NAOTMAA. I wonder how you got that conclusion. The proofs about what this seller is doing are pretty clear and i think its right to alert people , in special those who re starting to know about royalty about this kind of Sellers. NO ONE has denied this seller has pretty good stuff about romanovs (sometimes) but mostly of his/her are pictures of ordinary people with "royal labels".

It was just a guess, cause I asked the seller about your emails and got some quotes- yours were never nice ones- they were mainly very rude and aggressive, offending- so that s no way I think and that s sad. To alert people is a thing- sorry, it has something of this denunciating thing- if you feel good in that, it s your choice, but it has a bitter taste for me.
By the way, you mentioned three of her offer with pics- sorry to say you were wrong about them. The one of Elisabeth or Ella does show her in a typical German summer`s dress for children and I have one antique portrait in which another little Princess of Germany wears a similar one.
Ordinary people labelled as Royals? That s nonsense.

May I quote you again:
This seller maybe was nice with you and withdrew that phoney pic of Tatiana but with me and other members of this forum who nicely told him/ her he/she was mistaken was totally unpolite .

That s not true as far as I know- we have a term- the sound makes the music. ;) It s one way to say to someone "You are one too blame and a shame for the whole planet", when appearing for the first time or just saying "Hello, I think you ve made a mistake." Historians can mix up things, too and it even happens in  huge exhibitions.
Just let me tell you this, although if it might be uninteresting to you Katenka- I have bought portraits of Victoria Melita and her sisters labelled as just girls from Coburg and I have bought a portrait by Backofen signed as Ella. The one of Ella was not Ella, the scan at ebay was not pretty well and to see it in reality was a different thing. The seller is a high class seller at ebay and an antiquarian dealer if I remember it right- but he made such a mistake and I never got back my money. I want to say that Backofen does not mean at all that it must be a Grand Duchess of Hesse.
I ve seen dislabeles photos here, too and some ones who want to be the one of a kind to post a misidentified one- that can happen, but it s okay if it happens here?!

---------

Here s what he/ she said to one of the  posters about  his/her items...

Quote from: Elske on December 28, 2009, 10:57:25 AM
A few days ago I wrote to the seller that the girl on the CDV is not Marie Valerie and that there were more people who told the same.
He/she wrote that I was the only one who had written that it was not her and that some other people (the ones that made a bid) were very happy with such a a great find.

Thats sounds like someone who wants to make money of people who has NO idea about royals . Thats wrong and its not just a thing of mislabeled pictures, its take advantage of people .

-That s not true, but believe what you believe. I think we do have our different points of view. I have seen the CDV of Marie Valerie and the seller took it off ebay- so what- you have all reached your goal, haven t you? I have helped her later in identifying it, cause it does show an aristocratic girl from Vienna- of the Brehm family. But it was not mislabelled by the seller. And the Historian who examined it made a mistake- so the seller saw the mistake later. But that happens other sellers, too.


Ps: Re reading your message i think you re talkin about other ebay seller who also has great pictures of Romanovs (ST_Moritz). I ve helped him/ her to put right ids to his/ her pictures and he/she is very nice and polite

No, I do not know St Moritz. I only have three sellers I do buy from at ebay, if I do buy there- from Sweden, Germany and Russia. I do mainly buy my items from auctions like Sothebys, Stade at Hamburg and others worldwide.

Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on February 07, 2010, 07:33:49 AM
Please, folks, let's return to topic.

If you'd like continue discussing the reliability of particular eBay sellers, I can move the relevant posts to create a new thread in the Romanov and Imperial Russia Links board.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 07, 2010, 09:18:23 AM

It was just a guess, cause I asked the seller about your emails and got some quotes- yours were never nice ones- they were mainly very rude and aggressive, offending- so that s no way I think and that s sad. To alert people is a thing- sorry, it has something of this denunciating thing- if you feel good in that, it s your choice, but it has a bitter taste for me.
 


I wanted to answer your message till i read this. You have no idea which is my ebay id and yet you got quotes of the messages i supposely send?!...Hmm...Hmm...Hmmm


Lets do what Sarushka says cause we gonna end up beating the dead horse with false facts and supposed "hate messages"
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ImperialHighness on February 07, 2010, 10:37:36 AM

If you'd like continue discussing the reliability of particular eBay sellers, I can move the relevant posts to create a new thread in the Romanov and Imperial Russia Links board...

@Sarushka, it would be better to stop this discussion I think, for it s not the task or the sense of this forum to discuss the reliability of ebay sellers I think.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ImperialHighness on February 07, 2010, 10:44:14 AM
@Katenka,
"I wanted to answer your message till i read this. You have no idea which is my ebay id and yet you got quotes of the messages i supposely send?!...Hmm...Hmm...Hmmm
Lets do what Sarushka says cause we gonna end up beating the dead horse with false facts and supposed "hate messages""

I have asked the seller at ebay just simply what messages were received in fact of false or fake items, cause the seller started to talk with me about it. I never said that I got your ebay id, but to notice how you react make me go...mmmhh...mmmhh...
I never wrote a hate message, I just think to attack one person is unfair and I would say the same about other sellers, too if I would think or would be sure that they did not sell fakes. I just wrote my opinion and I would have been more happy if the reaction here was different to my words- especially when I mentioned the members who sold the photo repros at ebay...

I never quotes stats from ebay...how could I? I just got some extracts of them by the seller and read them. I have asked for it, cause I told the seller about the discussion here.
   
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 07, 2010, 11:06:53 AM
No , you said i was unpolite  with the messages i sent to this seller, not that you send hate messages, and you made an affirmation about this not knowing which was my ebay ID.  

About the active members selling reprod, you throw the stone and say, at least to the adm of this forum who they are cause i think its pretty nasty to rip off pictures here posted in good faith to profit with them

And to finish this, as you say, its not the forum bussiness talk about Ebay sellers but its pretty useful for people new in royalty to  know who can put a finger in your mouth selling you phooney royalty pics. At least they will know with who they re dealing.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: ImperialHighness on February 08, 2010, 01:18:45 AM
@ Katenka,

And to finish this, as you say, its not the forum bussiness talk about Ebay sellers but its pretty useful for people new in royalty to  know who can put a finger in your mouth selling you phooney royalty pics. At least they will know with who they re dealing.

I do not share this opinion, but if you want to be the good one who can point the finger- it s your choice. But I still have to admit that it reminds me of denunciation and I do not think that anyone new in Royalty will buy anything he/she can grab. That would be childish and in these economical times no one will do that.
I do not want to offend you, but maybe you ll come to the point one day to think about this. Your behaviour has still a bitter taste for me, I can t help it.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 08, 2010, 08:57:08 AM
Cause im bitter, my dear ^^
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on February 08, 2010, 07:14:27 PM
One more time: Please return to topic.

You two can always continue this discussion via PM.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 08, 2010, 08:10:05 PM
No, dont worry, its over ^^
Title: The book, of books...
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on February 15, 2010, 09:39:23 AM
(http://www.freewebs.com/tatianaromanova/BeautyOTMA.gif)
Was there a sort of fashion for reading blank books then, because there are a few pictures of them doing just that?...
Title: Re: The book, of books...
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 15, 2010, 10:24:38 AM
A) yes, it was not uncommon topose with books.
B) the book is not blank. I have a better version of that picture and you can see illustration and written lines.
C) maybe you´de like to post questions like this into regular picture thread rather then starting new next time :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: RomanovMartyrs on February 17, 2010, 04:27:07 AM
Is this Olga? Or Tatiana, or..?

One so rarely sees them smiling with their teeth it's hard to identify them!

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll299/Romanovy/OTMA/happy%20times/1af80f50b792.jpg
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 17, 2010, 04:54:16 AM
That is Tatiana.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Tasia on February 17, 2010, 06:35:08 AM
Beautiful Picture!!! *_*
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: azrael7171918 on February 17, 2010, 06:39:57 AM
That is Tatiana.

Are you sure I thought that was Maria.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 17, 2010, 06:41:30 AM
That is Tatiana.

Are you sure I thought that was Maria.

Thought this question has been brought up in different thread not so long ago, I´m 100% positive it is indeed Tatiana. The fact we don´t see her smiling a lit makes it more difficult for some to recognize her.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 17, 2010, 08:00:53 AM
Wow, for me looks like Maria 0_o
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 17, 2010, 08:13:22 AM
Except for the physical resemblance to Tatiana there are other things like:

1. This picture is captioned as Tatiana in "Ten years aboard Imperial yacht Standart". True - captions are sometimes wrong.
2. The shape of the face, dark hair, and height - all matches Tatiana pics from the same period (aka 1907-1908).
3. The officer behind Tatiana is N. Sablin - who was assigned specially to her to take care of her. There are many pics of them together.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: EmmyLee on February 17, 2010, 11:12:50 AM
So the Grand Duchesses had sailors assigned to them too? I'd thought it was just Alexei. Do we have photos of the other Grand Duchesses with their sailors?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 17, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
Yes, all the children had their sailor.

(http://nd01.blog.cz/452/864/4f47744326_39959461_o2.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: EmmyLee on February 17, 2010, 11:45:30 AM
Thank you, Ally! It's kind of amusing how even the sailors somewhat match in the height lineup.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Talya on March 15, 2010, 01:34:05 AM
Quick Question but I need to know where all of the formal pics were taken.
Sorta like this if you will:
1913-
1914-
1915-
etc :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 15, 2010, 02:07:27 AM
1896
1897
1899
1900
1901
1904
1906
1910
1911
1913
1914
1916
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on March 15, 2010, 07:58:49 AM
And 1898. :^)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Talya on March 15, 2010, 08:10:54 PM
I said where! It's okay though because now I have a compleate list of when but I meant where :)

Ex:
1913-Livadia

I don't know exactly where though
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on March 15, 2010, 10:02:20 PM
IMO, judging mostly by the furniture which appears in each session:

1900 - Peterhof
1901 - Peterhof
1904 - Peterhof
1906 - Tsarskoe Selo
1910 - Tsarskoe Selo
1911 - Peterhof (or Livadia?)
1913 - Tsarskoe Selo
1914 - Tsarskoe Selo
1916 - Tsarskoe Selo
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Talya on March 15, 2010, 10:36:43 PM
YAY!! Thank you Sarushka!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on March 16, 2010, 08:23:02 AM
Although I can't tell by the furnishings, it's also likely that the sessions featuring Tatiana and Maria as infants (1897 and 1899) were taken at Peterhof -- with the exception of Olga, all of the imperial children were born there.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: EmmyLee on March 17, 2010, 05:53:16 PM
Why was Peterhof such a popular location for the formals? Did they just schedule the shoots for the time they were staying there?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Talya on March 17, 2010, 07:11:03 PM
Same with Tsarskoe Selo? Did they just happen? (And of course why no Livadia?) (except for the maybe 1911 shoot)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on March 18, 2010, 12:30:50 AM
Quote
Posted by: Grand Duchess Ally :Yes, all the children had their sailor.
you know I believe these are the same  sailors standing by in the famous footage of the children playing on the yacht...makes sense
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: tatianolishka_ on March 18, 2010, 08:50:06 PM
Why was Peterhof such a popular location for the formals? Did they just schedule the shoots for the time they were staying there?

I'm not 100% sure, but I'll try and give a possible explanation.

A common theme throughout the formal sessions taken in Peterhof are the light, airy summer dresses. Therefore we can assume that the family preferred to have their photos taken during the warmer time of the year, when they would go to Peterhof.

Same with Tsarskoe Selo? Did they just happen? (And of course why no Livadia?) (except for the maybe 1911 shoot)

Considering most of the formals at Tsarskoe are taken post-1913, the family was traveling much less (and were often about during the 300th year celebrations, if I assume correctly) and stayed in their home for the most part.

I don't think I could explain the 1906 or the 1910 shots.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: larri* on March 28, 2010, 05:26:42 PM
Does someone have this picture in better quiality? I have seen it portrait version but I would like to have the photograph version.   Thanks in advance =)
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/1896_OLGA-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on March 28, 2010, 05:51:33 PM
I suspect this has been somewhat retouched, but here you go...

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_family1896_1.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=family1896_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: larri* on March 29, 2010, 04:30:08 AM
Thank you very much Sarushka! =)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nena on April 03, 2010, 05:56:29 PM
That image appeared on the front page of Zhurnal 'Niva' in 1896, if I recall correctly.  ;-). I think only Aleksandra - Olga cropped version. I have it somewhere in my database.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: larri* on April 08, 2010, 05:18:06 PM
Does someone have this same photograph with the OLD MARK of "photoarchive.spb.ru" (on the left bottom part). I really love this photograph and I would be so grateful. Thanks in advance =)

(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/1896_babyolga.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on April 08, 2010, 09:33:17 PM
otmaprivatealbums I never saw that one before! Thanks! I love how Olga's hand is resting on her father's
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on April 09, 2010, 07:37:21 AM
Unmarked:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_nickyolga1896.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=nickyolga1896.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: larri* on April 09, 2010, 08:45:23 AM
Unmarked:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_nickyolga1896.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=nickyolga1896.jpg)

Thank you very much for helping me again Sarushka! =)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on April 09, 2010, 09:33:05 AM
Indeed Sarushka!, thank you! Love it!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Talya on May 04, 2010, 12:39:13 AM
Can I get a couple wheres and whens? AKA Where is it and/or when was it taken.


(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/Olga/olgabig.jpg)
(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/Olga/2ba39ee94607.jpg)
(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/Olga/2djcdts.jpg)
(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/Olga/180-8.jpg)
(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/Olga/oaf12106uc-8.jpg)
(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/Olga/olgawickerdeck-10.jpg)
(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/Olga/Olgapatients.jpg)
(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/Olga/PrivateWorldofLastTsar047.jpg)
(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/Olga/3_1.jpg)
(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab16/natat/The%20Romanov%20Family/Olga/5.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nena on May 04, 2010, 07:41:50 AM
Livadia, autumn of 1913/spring of 1914
Around Mogilev, summer of 1916
'Baby Olga ?' , Crimea?
Tsarskoe Selo, 1914/5
Again Mogilev, summer of 1916
Standart?, 1911
Nursing at Tsarskoe, ca. 1915
At Standart,around 1912, cruise to Finland?
Peterhof, formal one from 1896 and at Peterhof/Tsarskoe's gardens with a lady, approximately in 1896.

I hope I helped.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Condecontessa on May 04, 2010, 06:30:01 PM
I thought the last one was taken at Bialowezia but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Talya on May 04, 2010, 11:21:01 PM
Well I don't know but thank you soooooo much nena! This really helped a lot
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on June 23, 2010, 01:37:35 PM
I am wondering about a picture of the Big Pair from around 1910. They are wearing funny flat hats and dark coats, and are sitting in some sort of garden with bushes and fountains. Where was this taken?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on June 23, 2010, 02:09:27 PM
Is it one of these?

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/th_bigpairfountain.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/?action=view&current=bigpairfountain.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/th_olgatatiana1py.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/?action=view&current=olgatatiana1py.jpg)

I'm not certain where they were taken, but the clothing matches outfits they wore during their trips to Germany in 1910.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Katya_C on June 23, 2010, 04:34:53 PM
Is it one of these?

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/th_bigpairfountain.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/?action=view&current=bigpairfountain.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/th_olgatatiana1py.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/?action=view&current=olgatatiana1py.jpg)

I'm not certain where they were taken, but the clothing matches outfits they wore during their trips to Germany in 1910.

I'm fairly sure that the photos were taken at Massandra Palace, Crimea, ca. 1909 as they are both on the same index page at Beinecke.

Check out Beinecke album 4, page 26 at:

  http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1000718&iid=1000718&srchtype=

Photo no. 1000723 is the one with Olga & Tatiana sitting at the fountain (notice the umbrella) & photo no. 1000725 is Alexandra with Olga & Tatiana (and their umbrellas) wearing what appears to be the same outfits.

The railing/balustrade appears to be the same in both photos as well.

Regards,

Katya C.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on June 23, 2010, 06:07:05 PM
Thank you! I thought something of the sort, but I wasn't sure...

By the way, it's the first photo. ( Why do they have walking sticks?)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Katya_C on June 23, 2010, 06:36:28 PM
Is it one of these?

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/th_bigpairfountain.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/?action=view&current=bigpairfountain.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/th_olgatatiana1py.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/?action=view&current=olgatatiana1py.jpg)

I'm not certain where they were taken, but the clothing matches outfits they wore during their trips to Germany in 1910.

I'm fairly sure that the photos were taken at Massandra Palace, Crimea, ca. 1909 as they are both on the same index page at Beinecke.

Check out Beinecke album 4, page 26 at:

  http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1000718&iid=1000718&srchtype=

Photo no. 1000723 is the one with Olga & Tatiana sitting at the fountain (notice the umbrella) & photo no. 1000725 is Alexandra with Olga & Tatiana (and their umbrellas) wearing what appears to be the same outfits.

The railing/balustrade appears to be the same in both photos as well.

Regards,

Katya C.


Awww.... my mistake, I was talking about the photo on the left, the one of the Grand Duchesses at the pond/fountain with their umbrellas.

The photo on the right with the Grand Duchesses sitting on the bench with walking sticks may very well have been taken in Germany.

Katya C.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on June 23, 2010, 09:06:33 PM
when one goes to that link,  Beinecke album 4, page 26 at:
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1000718&iid=1000718&srchtype=

One sees that great photo of the big pair with their mother, but the next photo is of Alexandra alone, and what I had not noticed before , one sees her daughter's long shadows in the photo as well .Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nena on July 01, 2010, 01:36:32 PM
Well, I have seen some photos of IF visiting Massandra/South Crimea in the fall of 1909, and they indeed wore black dresses.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: larri* on September 14, 2010, 12:38:09 PM
I'm looking for a picture of Olga from the 1914 formal session. This picture is quite rare and it has the watermark of the "bpk" website, and although I'v been looking for it through the "Rare pictures" threads I can't find it. Thanks in advance! =)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on September 14, 2010, 01:24:36 PM
I'm looking for a picture of Olga from the 1914 formal session. This picture is quite rare and it has the watermark of the "bpk" website, and although I'v been looking for it through the "Rare pictures" threads I can't find it. Thanks in advance! =)

Luckily  I just saw this  yesterday among my MANY unorganized photos!  :)
Olga Nikolaevna , gorgeous even though such a watermark. Let me know if you ever find it without the lettering!

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Olga%20Nikolaevna/what.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Dru on September 14, 2010, 05:37:04 PM
Without the watermark:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4991544592_1f66929a40.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: cebi26 on September 17, 2010, 09:49:43 AM
Anyone know who are the men in this photo apart from Nicholas?
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1459/1c368cb46254101861u.jpg
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 17, 2010, 10:08:53 AM
The gent beside Gd Olga Alexandrovna is her husband Peter of Oldenburg. The other one at the right...i dont know
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on September 17, 2010, 10:16:24 AM
He could belong in some way to their Aunt Irene who is there as well
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 17, 2010, 10:20:14 AM
Yes. but who?. Heinrich defo it isnt.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 17, 2010, 11:31:16 AM
Bigger version: http://nd02.jxs.cz/396/703/1c368cb462_54101861_o2.jpg

could it be Mikhail?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 17, 2010, 07:16:50 PM
Maybe, but im not sure. Its something about that moustache...
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on September 17, 2010, 08:31:14 PM
It's not Nicholas brother, Michale  imo  ...though I wondered at  first. Aunt Olga A was there and I believe her first husband as well.
So there are number of persons he could be attacted to . Still he had to be close to be there at such a family outing ...there are many photos taken that day and it might pay to study them

I have a question about a photo. I know this at Peterhof ..but isn't  that Christopher of Greece with Olga? ( and Anya? ) How interesting.

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Olga%20Nikolaevna/th_1000472.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Olga%20Nikolaevna/1000472.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 18, 2010, 01:56:59 AM
Maybe, but im not sure. Its something about that moustache...

Well, he did have such moustache in 1903. This picture can be like 1906 IMO, I don´t know how long he had that thing on his face.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nena on September 18, 2010, 07:52:44 AM
I have a question about a photo. I know this at Peterhof ..but isn't  that Christopher of Greece with Olga? ( and Anya? ) How interesting.
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Olga%20Nikolaevna/th_1000472.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Olga%20Nikolaevna/1000472.jpg)

Yes, I see Madame Anna Vyrubova. I think it was taken in late 1913/early 1914.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 18, 2010, 09:29:37 AM
Maybe, but im not sure. Its something about that moustache...

Well, he did have such moustache in 1903. This picture can be like 1906 IMO, I don´t know how long he had that thing on his face.

I know he had a moustache but not that long and curvy. Thats what i meant.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Condecontessa on September 18, 2010, 05:59:58 PM
I agree with Ally because I recall seeing another setting from the same session with Grand Duke Mikail.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on September 19, 2010, 01:01:23 AM
Luckly there are a good number of pictures taken that day so there's a better chance of comparing other photos . I just saw a photo where
 MA  has this mustache....  and only family  seem to be there.  It almost is a case, where it has to be him .


(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/CofG.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Olga%20Nikolaevna/1000472-1.jpg)
Here is  Prince Christopher of Greece. It seems to me the man in this photo with Olga and Anna, is he. We know Prince Christopher  expressed the desire to marry Olga,  so it's interesting  there is this photo of them together from that that time... or even later. That was  in late 1913, or early in 1914, ( because Olga was 18 when Christopher asked Nicholas for her hand )  and this photos seems a bit later than that. Unlike Carol,  Olga  didn't reject Prince Christopher completely if I recall. It's conjecture on my part, but it seems she's annoyed at being photographed and he looks uncomfortable! lol!  Olga  seems about to tell a sister to get lost. lol!   I wonder if she would have agreed to his proposal if things worked out differently  and he agreed to staying  in Russia of course!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Nicolá De Valerón on September 19, 2010, 02:08:58 AM
blessOTMA, you have a very good imagination;).

I think (sure) that this man with Olga and Vyrubova on photo is just one of the HIM Cossack Guard's Convoy officers (rank "Sotnik", US - Lieutenant). Nothing more. Of course he can have some resemble to Christopher of Greece, but it's only a good coincidence. Moreover, the man on photo has a typical southern dark appearance (Georgian or more likely, Azerbaijanian). Nothing from the Greek royalty;)

Btw, as I can see, photo itself is taken on balcony of Vyrubova house in Tsarskoe Selo. So, it's 100% officer of HIM Guard's Cossack Convoy (and not for example Terek Cossack), which was dislocated in Tsarskoe Selo.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 19, 2010, 09:14:30 AM
About the picture that Bless OTMA mention, its isnt Christopher  of Greece
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: blessOTMA on September 19, 2010, 08:17:47 PM
Quote
blessOTMA, you have a very good imagination;).
lol ! I have been told that before! Thank you  Nicolá , as always, for your answer and all the great information!! :)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: GrandDuchessIsabelle on April 05, 2012, 03:10:46 PM
I have a question about Olga's 1911 formal pictures. As you can see here:
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/th_olga-b.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/?action=view&current=olga-b.jpg) she is wearing what appears to be a sprig of flowers in the middle of her dress, something her sisters aren't: (http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/th_34.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/?action=view&current=34.jpg) (http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/th_15-1.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/?action=view&current=15-1.jpg)
And you can see it here too: http://nd01.jxs.cz/683/835/e492c3b157_44824547_o2.jpg
Is it a sprig of flowers, or perhaps a broach? I understand that her 16th birthday was in 1911, maybe it was a present which is why she wears it but not her sisters?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sunny on April 06, 2012, 01:00:10 AM
It seems a brooch to me, but it's clear the session was taken before Novbember, since ON's hair is still down on her shoulders.
I don't know exactly why the sisters don't have them... we should ask Sarushka.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on April 06, 2012, 08:34:21 AM
Looks like lily-of-the-valley to me, but I'm not sure whether it's live flowers or a brooch.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Kassafrass on December 17, 2013, 12:38:32 AM
Was searching through the Beinecke albums and was in album 4 when I came across this photo

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S4kuTfg8SSE/UpaoZ6PATAI/AAAAAAAAB-U/MwJy7yR9ukI/w554-h509-no/ON+Pierre+Gilliard.jpg)

The album is labeled as 1909 but with Olga's hair up, it has to be at least late 1911. Is the album by Anna V? I know she sometimes mixed the years up on the photos and I suppose that might be the case, but I also know that Maria was allowed to put her hair up every now and then before her 16th birthday and wondered if maybe the same happened for Olga. I was just looking for some conformation on this. Thanks!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nena on December 17, 2013, 07:00:15 AM
The photo was, accordjing to the Russian sources, taken at Livadia in 1911, (You will notice that most of the photos of Grand Duchesses with P. Gilliard at Livadia are labeled to have been taken in spring of 1912) and the photo can be seen in A. Vyrubova's album.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Kassafrass on December 17, 2013, 01:57:10 PM
So I'm assuming that the photos of TMA in the same room are also from the same time?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: nena on December 17, 2013, 02:46:44 PM
So I'm assuming that the photos of TMA in the same room are also from the same time?
No, not those. The photos I am talking about are the ones with Gilliard on the balcony of Livadia palace during French lessions, that were taken in 1912. The photos inside the palace are also said to have been taken cca. 1911.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Kassafrass on January 12, 2014, 01:10:16 PM
Does anyone have the full version of this photo?

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/ef729979707f4ed2bd46aa02eec39230/tumblr_mz96jl08qh1sac95co1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Dru on January 12, 2014, 02:53:28 PM
I used to have this much bigger, but I can't find it anywhere.  I know there is a larger copy around somewhere, so maybe someone can post it later; in the meantime, here is the full photo:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/11915037986_debd973508_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Kassafrass on January 12, 2014, 07:42:27 PM
Why thank you Dru! Giving me this allowed me to find a larger version

*Download for fuller size

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3757/11919623464_8669bd9b2f_o.jpg)

This has to be 1909/1910, right?
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Dru on January 12, 2014, 07:52:27 PM
Thank you!  I've been looking for that photo ever since I saw your earlier post.

1910 sounds about right, but I'm not what you could call an expert on dating these photos  :-\
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Kassafrass on January 12, 2014, 08:37:38 PM
I just think it must be around that time seeing as how mature Olga looks. Anastasia seems to be getting older as well. Maybe someone with better knowledge on years can shine some light on it :-)
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Sarushka on January 12, 2014, 09:30:32 PM

This has to be 1909/1910, right?

I would guess 1909. In many of the 1910 photos Olga wears her hair in a low ponytail fastened by a large bow, apparently in preparation for putting it up in 1911.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Kassafrass on January 12, 2014, 10:40:20 PM
Ah, yes of course. I remember you mentioning that in a message to me before. Thanks for the confirmation Sarah!
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: rosieposie on January 13, 2014, 05:07:15 PM
It looks like something amusing was said,  Nicholas has a smile on his face.
Title: Re: Question About/Need Help With Picture(s)
Post by: Kassafrass on January 13, 2014, 06:10:54 PM
I just love photos where they're smiling together. Shows how he was a respected Papa, but was also friendly with his kiddies.