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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Habsburgs => Topic started by: ipflo on February 25, 2006, 01:20:13 PM

Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: ipflo on February 25, 2006, 01:20:13 PM
hi,

Does any one know where I could find plans of the royal palace of Budapest? Plans on which one can see where the Habsburgs lived when they resided in the palace. It is a huge palace, and I was also wondering where did they use the palace for besides lodging the Habsburgs.

Thx in advance,

ipflo

(http://lapin-bleu.net/pictures/20030517-Budapest/img_1936-large.jpg)

(http://regis.budohead.com/travel/budapest/bu_castle_2.jpg)

(http://marksquires.com/Images_Photos/buda291.jpg)

(http://hampage.hu/kozlekedes/sopron/03210118.jpg)

(http://www.budabab.com/Buda%20castle.JPG)

(http://www.angabusiness.hu/images/cikk/kepek/varfelulnezetiterkep.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 25, 2006, 06:45:53 PM
Anybody know about the Hapsburg estate of Alauth, where the Hungarian family lived. Is it still a private home or a museum ? Thanks... ;)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: ipflo on February 27, 2006, 01:29:13 PM
Never heart of Alauth, do you maybe also have an other name of the estate?

ipflo
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 27, 2006, 08:57:23 PM
The estate goes by this name is both bio's of Archduchess Henriette (Queen of Belgium)'s daughters , Louise of Saxe-Coburg and Crown Princess Stephanie of Austria. It was located some miles out of Budapest.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: ipflo on February 28, 2006, 01:50:57 PM
hmmm, it does not ring a bell with me. The only Habsburg residence I know outside of Budapest is Godollo.

Nor when I have a look on google, also when I have a look on the maps, I do not find a village called Alauth unfortunately.

Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on March 01, 2006, 04:41:37 AM
Quote
hi,

Does any one know where I could find plans of the royal palace of Budapest? Plans on which one can see where the Habsburgs lived when they resided in the palace. It is a huge palace, and I was also wondering where did they use the palace for besides lodging the Habsburgs.

Thx in advance,

ipflo



So, here's some information in sequences.
First, the anrecedents:

the first royal palace of Buda (in the Middle Ages, Buda and Pest were sepatete cities) was built between the 13th and the 16th centuries. A view from the 1460s, from the Hartmann-Schedel "Weltchronik":

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft3.jpg)

The palace was almost completely destroyed during the turkish occupation (1541-1686) and the fights of its deliberation (see the ruins of the palace on the left):

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/1686u.jpg)

In the 18th century, during the reign of Emperor Charles IV (III as king of Hungary) and Empress/Queen Maria Theresia. The "true" residence was in Vienna, so the Buda palace was not used so often. Later the Empress gave it to the Sisters of St. Clare. When Emperor Joseph II dissolved the order, the palace was given to the Pest University. Also an observatory tower was built... The palace became royal residence during Archduke Joseph Anton (1776-1827) (Palatin of Hungary, son of Emperor Leopold II) again.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft5.jpg)
More to come... (also plans :-)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on March 01, 2006, 05:08:27 AM
...The palace was burned out during the Revolution and War of Liberty (against the Habsburgs - King/Emperor Ferdinand V/I, then Franz Joseph I) in 1848-49.
The interiors were reconstructed in the 1850s.
At the end of the century, new wings (and a new dome) were added by architects Miklós Ybl and Alajos Hauszmann. See two plans from c. 1857 and 1912. I marked the main rooms as well.
The palace was seriously damaged in the WW2. After the war, because of different (art historical, political etc.) reasons the remains of the interiors were replaced with modern ones, the facades and the roofs were rebuilt with simplified forms... Now it houses different institutions. In the 1950s, ruins of the medieval palace were excavated under the (neo)baroque palace. Some of them were reconstucted and also the royal gardens received a medieval form.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft13.jpg)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft14.jpg)

1 - guards' office (destroyed in the early 1970s)
2 - equerry - demolished in the 1950s
3 - riding-school - demolished in the 1950s
4 - hungarian pavilion of Empress Elisabeth - demolished in the 1950s
5 - entrance to the royal gardens - almost in ruins...
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on March 01, 2006, 05:13:52 AM
Some of the marked interiors:

Marble Hall:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft9.jpg)

North salon with mirrors:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft7.jpg)

Ballroom:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft24.jpg)
Buffet gallery:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft16.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on March 01, 2006, 05:22:11 AM
And the three historical-memorial rooms:

Saint Stephan's Hall commemorating the first king, Stephan (1000-1038 ) and the Árpád Dinasty (1000-1301) in neoromanesque style:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft20.jpg)
The King Mathias'(1458-1490) Hall (the statue remained :-)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft19.jpg)
The Habsburg Hall (with busts of Charles III, Maria Theresia, Franz joseph and Elisabeth) in neobaroque style:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft21.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on March 01, 2006, 05:29:02 AM
And finally  ;),

the main staircase:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft18.jpg)
the original dome:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft25.jpg)
courtyard in original form:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft23.jpg)
ruins in the 1950s:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/ft27.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on March 01, 2006, 05:40:32 AM
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Anybody know about the Hapsburg estate of Alauth, where the Hungarian family lived. Is it still a private home or a museum ? Thanks... ;)


You mean Alcsút (most accurately Alcsútdoboz near Alcsút)
The palace was built between 1819-1827 by Mihály Pollack for Archduke Joseph Anton (Florence, 1776 - Buda, 1847), Palatin of Hungary, son of Emperor Leopold II:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/reformkor_VI_13n.jpg)
(some more pics of his crypt in the royal palace of Buda:
http://mek.oszk.hu/01500/01599/html/08.htm

The palace was damaged in the WW2, the ruins were demolished in the 1950s. Only the portico (and the huge park) remained:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/0892_t0708_maxi.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/Alcsut_kastely_portikuszvv.jpg) (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/alcsut.gif)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: ipflo on March 01, 2006, 02:39:21 PM
thx very much for the info  :D :D :D
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 01, 2006, 08:09:26 PM
Thanks ! Save me a trip there. I do wonder if there are photos of the interior of Alcuit survies in archievs ?
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on March 02, 2006, 07:14:25 AM
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Thanks ! Save me a trip there. I do wonder if there are photos of the interior of Alcuit survies in archievs ?


Yes, there are, but most of them are not published yet. I'll try to do something...
One more of the portico:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/KastelyRom_800.jpg)
some more of the park:
http://www.schefferj.ps.hu/Arb_Alcsuti2.htm
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 02, 2006, 08:29:11 PM
Thanks for the info and the photos. Sad that the estate did bot survive. If one want to go to search in the archievs, which one should I go when I get to Budapest ? Do want to do the Palace, Godollo and some info on Alcuit and the Hungarian Hapsburgs once I do get there. Thanks again for the help.  
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: ipflo on March 03, 2006, 07:29:23 AM
Here is a plan of the garden of alcsut. I assume number 2 is the place where once the mansion stood

(http://korlat.bmknet.hu/vakbarat/alcsut/terkep_nagy.gif)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 03, 2006, 09:25:17 AM
Thanks for the floor plan and location. I wonder if the Hapsburgs still owed the lands ? I wonder if photos was taken of the house during the time when they lived there.  ???
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on March 04, 2006, 04:58:24 AM
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Thanks for the info and the photos. Sad that the estate did bot survive. If one want to go to search in the archievs, which one should I go when I get to Budapest ? Do want to do the Palace, Godollo and some info on Alcuit and the Hungarian Hapsburgs once I do get there. Thanks again for the help.  


The best archive is the Historical Photo Gallery of the National Museum, see details here:
http://www.mnm.hu/english/szerv.html

By the way, the most interesting photographic documents of (other) "Hungarian" Habsburgs are the pictures from the family of Archduke Friedrich (1856-1936) (from the Teschen line - I mean the line of Archduchess Maria Christina, daughter of Maria Theresia and husband Albrecht von Teschen). His wife, Isabella, princess of Croy was a talented photographer, who documentes almost every moment of their everyday life in their residences in Féltorony (today Halbturm, Austria) and Pozsony (aka Pressburg, today Bratislava, Slovakia - this palace was built in the 18th century by the Grassalkovich family - the builders of Gödöllő, now it's the residence of the President of Slovakia).
At least 150 photos are published (there's a Hungarian and  German edition):
Ein Photoalbum aus dem Hause Habsburg / Vilmos Heiszler, Margit Szakács, Károly Vörös ; Übers. v. Therese Töttösy, Budapest, Corvina Kiadó / Wien ; Köln ; Graz : Böhlau Verlag Gesellschaft m. b. H. und Co. KG., 1989
ISBN: 3205051971
(Copies are available online for 20-27 Euros; but here in Budapest copies of the German edition are usually appear on booksales for less then 3 Euros  :) )
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: ipflo on March 04, 2006, 06:06:59 AM
Again a little sidenote from me, an other favourite residence of the Habsburg Teschen family was the Weilburg palace in Baden in the Wienerwald. A beautiful palace built by the architect Kornhäusel around 1800. The castle is named after the city where the wife (a princess of Nassau Weilburg) came of the building archduke, which name I have forgotten on the moment. The palace is reputed to have had the first Christmas tree in Austria. Unfortunately the Red army burnt down the palace after WWII and destroyed it. It has never been rebuilt :(

(http://www.antiqpaper.de/images/big/badenweilburgkol.jpg)

(http://members.aon.at/aquae-thermae/Media/BD_Weilb.gif)

(http://www.garfiocoleccion.com/fotos/10923033262827.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on March 04, 2006, 07:17:23 AM
Quote
Thanks for the floor plan and location. I wonder if the Hapsburgs still owed the lands ? I wonder if photos was taken of the house during the time when they lived there.  ???


Some more information: in 2002 there was an exhibition in the Szent István Király Múzeum, Székesfehérvár, Hungary: "Az alcsúti Habsburg-kastély tündölkése és pusztulása" (The Rise and Destruction of the Habsburg Palace in Alcsút". It has a tiny catalogue with great photos and a lot of information.
According to this catalogue, the last Habsburg, who lived in Alcsút was Archduke József Ágost (Joseph August) (1872-1962). When the Germans installed the Arrow Cross Party (a pro-German anti-Semitic fascist party) in government in October 1944 (and after it, the Soviet army intruded to Hungary), the Archduke's family (wife Auguste, Prinzessin von Bayern, 1875-1964 and their children) left Hungary, they emigrated to the US. After the WWII, they settled in Regensburg, as guests of Joseph's sister and her husband, Albrecht von Thurn und Taxis.
The Soviet Army arrived to Alcsút on the 24th December, 1944. A few hours later, the castle was in flames.
Almost everything destroyed - the family had left all of its properties in Alcsút.
The palace had a great collection. The furnitures were brought from Saint Petersburg as wedding-presents of Archduke Joseph Anton's first wife, Archduchess Alexandra Pavlovna, daughter of Tsar Paul I. Somehow (maybe still in the 19th century), some pieces of the tableware got to the Museum of Applied Arts in Budapest.
A few years later also the Library and the family archives burned out. Surprisingly, a few years ago, 607 letters were found in the State Archives - they were given back to the family.
The palace was demolished in the 1950s. Only the chapel and the equerry remained - the latter houses a golf club today. The Club's honorary president is one of the grandsons of Archduke József Ágost.
During the Communism, the castle and the park was state property - the park was opened as a botanical park and it preserved this function until today.
In the last two decades, excavations were made around the palace, and a lot of fragments were found: molten deer figures of glass, crystal fragments of chandeliers, piano vires, fragments of porcelain vases and busts, some pieces of the weapon collection, fragments of Alexandra Pavlovna's tea-set, given her by her father, with motifs of the park of Pavlovsk etc, etc :(...
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 04, 2006, 10:14:24 AM
Thank you very much for the information. I had a special liking for the Hungarian Hapsburgs. It was sad to see the palace destroyed.  :'( However I hope I can find photos of the interiors and find out how the beautiful collection of furniture and art pieces were laid out.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Paola on April 03, 2006, 10:58:47 AM
Is the Royal Crypt in the Budapest Royal Castle open to public? Which Hungarian Habsburgs are buried there? And is there any Hungarian Habsburgs buried in the chapel or park in Alcsut? Palatin Joseph and his wife, Archduchess Clotilde also owned a beautilful villa in Fiume (now the Croatian  State Archives).
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: amedeo on April 20, 2006, 10:54:54 AM

Many thanks DBORO for your contribute about the Royal Palace of Buda. It is a long time I have searched pics of the rooms and the floorplans but I was not able to find it. I wish know if you have taken them pics from a book (if you do could you tell me the title and the author becouse I'd like to buy it).
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on April 20, 2006, 01:37:40 PM
It's a little bit difficult to answer...
the photographs are from the digital archive of the Szabó Ervin Library of Budapest. It's really difficult to use, and it's only in Hungarian, so I found it better to send many of them directly to this thread.
If you're patient enough to try to see all the 150 digital images online, here1s what to do:
1. go to www.fszek.hu
2. click "adatbázisok" (databases) on the top
3. then click "saját adatbázisok" (own databases) on the left
4. click "Budapest képarchívum" (Budapest Picture Archive) on the left
5. click "Budapest képarchívum" again - on the bottom right (over the image)
these were only the first steps...
6. if you're lucky, you can see the "keresés" (search) window now (it looks really complicated) if you can't click the torch icon in the upper left corner
searching is VERY complicated here - if you're looking for images of the royal palace, the best thing to do is to search it as an "objektum"
so:
7. click to the "index" button in the line of "objektumról"
a new window appears with a list of the "objektum"s (buildings, statues etc.) in alphabetical order
8. find "királyi várpalota" (the easiest way is to write in the words "kiralyi varpalota" or kiralyi next to the "kezdet" (beginning) & then click "keres" (search)
9. if you managed to find the "királyi várpalota" in the list, choose it & click "beír + bezár"
now you're again in the "keresés" window & you can see
"KIRÁLYI VÁRPALOTA ->"
as the searched "objektum" (it would be easy to write it in in step 6, but you can do it only if you've got this character: Á, because the program doesn't understand "KIRALYI VARPALOTA ->"  :(
10. click "keres" (search) (in the bottom left corner)
a new window appears...
11. click "lista" (list) (in the bottom left corner)
FINALLY, a list appears with 151 thumbnail images of the royal palace...
it wasn't that difficult, was it?  :)

I wrote down this complicated process, because finding books about the palace abroad seems to me more difficult. I think they were published only in Hungary, the best ones are:

Hauszmann Alajos, A magyar királyi vár, s. l. [Budapest], 1912 - a great book by architect Alajos Hauszmann with many big, high quality images...
Czagány István, A Budavári Palota és a Szent György téri épületek, Budapest, 1966. - it was published only in 3300 copies...
I don't have any of them... Anyhow, good luck to find some pics/books!!

Daniel Borovi
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: amedeo on April 22, 2006, 01:34:18 PM
Thank you very much for your help. I've found the pics in the site. Your contribute to this site was very pretious!
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on April 23, 2006, 05:46:28 AM
Grazie e congratulazioni  :)

Daniel
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: ipflo on April 23, 2006, 01:11:55 PM
Unfortunately it did not work out for me, I come to step 11, and see that the program says he found 151 listings, but he does not give me the thumbnails  :'( But anyway, just as Amadeo, thx for the extensive working program how to get to the pictures

Some years ago there has been published a book in France about the Castle of Budapest: Budapest un Chateau pour un Royaume Musée Carnavalet, Paris-Musées 2001, 118 pages, ISBN 2 87900 565 5. It has about 100 pictures, it is a nice book. It was published in relation to an exposition:

L'HISTOIRE DU CHÂTEAU DE BUDAPEST  A TRAVERS L'HISTOIRE DE LA HONGRIE
http://www.paris-france.org/musees/musee_carnavalet/musee/expositions/expos/dp_budapest/histoire_chateau_budapest.htm


You can still order through amazon.fr: http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2879005655/403-9775090-3750043

Although it is a nice book, it does not contain as many maps, plans or pictures, as you probably (and I) would wish

ipflo
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on April 26, 2006, 11:49:53 AM
If you can't see the thumbnails, you can click to the titles, too, or you can try it again. Sometimes this database does REALLY wierd things...

I know the exhibition and the catalogue of the exhibition organized in the Musée Carnevalet, but it doesn't contain so many pictures of the 18-20th century palace. This exhibition followed a huge one organized in the Budapesti Történeti Múzeum (Museum of Budapest History) of Budapest in 2000, entitled "A Budavári Palota évszázadai". It was a really great show presenting many original plans, photographs, works of art & other objects from the 18-20th century history of the palace. It has a rather interesting catalogue, sadly, with small B&W illustrations. That's why I didn't added it to the list. So good luck again, and if you have any questions, or if you need any picture, just ask. I scanned some pics for my thesis, maybe I'll send them, too.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on April 28, 2006, 01:32:34 PM
Some of the so-called ruins before the demolition, 1960.   :'(

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/habsburgt1960.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: ipflo on April 29, 2006, 03:15:04 AM
Is this from the Buda palace? It is unbelievable how many great buildings have been destroyed during the last century
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on May 08, 2006, 10:14:54 AM
Yes, it is. It's the so-called Habsburg Hall (see my previous posts) with the busts of Emperor Charles III, Maria Theresia, Franz Joseph and Elisabeth. The ceiling was decorated with an allegoric, Tiepolo-like wall-painting of Károly Lotz, The Apotheosis of Franz Joseph and Elisabeth. This room almost completely survived the bombings of 1944. There's a short film from 1945: a father shows the ruins of the castle to his son. He speaks about the former glory: he shows 15th century woodcuts of the castle, pages from King Matthias Hunyadi (Corvinus)'s (1458-1490) famous Florentine manuscripts, the so-called corvinas to illustrate the palace's Medieval Grandeur. He shows the baroque-neobaroque ruins as examples of vanity. Then they visit the ruins of the Habsburg Hall - the father says, that ART conquered WAR: the fresco of the famous Lotz remained (Not surprisingly, he ignores it's theme...)
After this film, it's srange to see the consequences: The whole palace became (officially) national monument in 1948. In the 1950-70s archeologists were really proud of their work: they managed to find many fragments of the Medieval palace under the Baroque one. BUT while they did a great job down under, they almost completely destroyed the baroque-neobaroque interiors (because of art historical/political reasons) and in the name of modern priciples of historical monuments' protection, they cleaned the baroque exteriors from the Neobaroque changes, and then they needed to alter the originally neobaroque wings, too, to make a "standardized" look. Etc. etc. The Habsburg Hall was demolished in the early 1960s. Today, it's replaced with a totally modern (and very ugly) interior.

P.s. The busts of Charles III & Maria Theresia are remained. They needed serious restorations, because in the 1960s, after the demolition of the room, they were trown out, but now they're on desplay again, in the Budapest History Museum (in one of the wings of the former Royal Palace)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Paola on May 17, 2006, 08:04:46 AM
Iam  planning  to go to  Budapest  next month and I would like to know if the Royal Crypt  is open to the public and when. If I have time I will visit Godollo and Alcsut too.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on May 18, 2006, 02:50:50 AM
The Crypt can be visited as an exhibition of the Hungarian National Gallery. More info:
http://www.mng.hu/eng/belso.php?inf=informacio_en#belepoLink

Gödöllö:
http://www.kiralyikastely.hu/

Botanical Garden, Alcsutdoboz:
Wed-Sun 9-18h
http://www.vendegvaro.hu/34-46
http://www.alcsutdoboz.hu/alcsutdoboz/telepulesunk_bemutatkozik/
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Paola on May 18, 2006, 06:52:46 AM
Thanks so much dboro.

I will make an appointment to visit the royal crypt. Do you know if the grave of Archduchess Marie Dorothea (later Princess of Orleans) is still in Alcsút? I once read she was buried there but Iam not sure if her remains were later moved to Budapest.

Paola
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on May 18, 2006, 08:09:22 AM
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Thanks so much dboro.

I will make an appointment to visit the royal crypt. Do you know if the grave of Archduchess Marie Dorothea (later Princess of Orleans) is still in Alcsút? I once read she was buried there but Iam not sure if her remains were later moved to Budapest.

Paola

I'll look after it. She died in Alcsút in 1932. I'm sure that her body was not moved to Bp. Here's a plan of the Budapest crypt. This is the actual state - it's in Hungarian, but I think, it won't be hard to understand.

D

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/kep02.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Paola on May 18, 2006, 08:47:27 AM
Thanks. It could be that she is still buried in Alcsút. I will see if I find her grave there. It is an interesting plan of the crypt. But just now there are more Habsburgs buried there. I think this plan is from before the restaurations in the 1970's. Iam very interested in the Hungarian Habsburgs, I have a nice  book "a nadorá kripta" but unfortunately I can't read Hungarian. I would like to learn someday.But the pictures in the book are quite interesting. I am specially interested in Palatin  Joseph, (husband of Clotilde) and all his family.  His son Ladislaus died in a hunting accident and I  like to know more about his short life and death so I ordered an old book about him(Aus dem Leben des Erzherzogs Ladislaus, by I. Thewrewk) in microfilm from Wien.
Do you know nice albums/books/biographies about the Hungarian Habsburgs in Hungarian or German?

Paola
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: dboro on May 18, 2006, 10:49:13 AM
The plan is from that book ("A nádori kripta"). It has a digital version online (sadly, only in Hungarian):
http://mek.oszk.hu/01500/01599/html/index.htm
I'll think about interesting books...

db
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: ashanti01 on July 04, 2006, 10:25:36 PM
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'll give it a shot.

I was looking around for images of Schönbrunn on the forum but was unable to locate any. I did try using the search function, but found no results.

Can anyone post images of this beautiful palace? If you can find images of Empress Elisabeth's (Sissi) personal rooms, I would be forever gratefull.

Here are a few images I was able to find of the interior of the palace.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/smallgallert.jpg)
Small Gallery

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/greatgallery.jpg)
The Great Gallery

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/martialbedroom.jpg)
The Martial Bedroom (Sissi and Emperor Franz Joseph shared it at the start of their marriage.)
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Post by: Arco on July 05, 2006, 08:51:35 AM
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Post by: Arco on July 05, 2006, 08:55:09 AM
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/stepperg/schonbrunn_wideweb__430x276.jpg)
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Post by: britt.25 on July 05, 2006, 10:17:42 AM
The last picture looks very wonderful!!!
Some kind of romantic in this light!
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Post by: ashanti01 on July 05, 2006, 06:39:54 PM
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Sissi's dressing room

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Vieuxlaque room
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Post by: britt.25 on July 06, 2006, 02:50:55 AM
Interesting...very beautiful...where did you find these photos? :)
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Post by: ashanti01 on July 06, 2006, 06:11:59 PM
A few I got from my friend who e-mailed them to me. The last one's I found via Google. There is a webpage that has really nice pictures of Sissi's private rooms but they are so small and I'm unable to enlarge them.  :-/ Needless to say it's very fustrating.
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Post by: britt.25 on July 07, 2006, 06:11:04 AM
Very beautiful...I am going to Vienna this summer, so maybe I get a possibility to see something of it ;)
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Post by: Lucien on August 16, 2006, 12:54:14 PM
An extensive site,in german,of most,if not alll,the Imperial and Noble Palaces in wonderfull Vienna:

http://www.burgen-austria.com/Palais.asp
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Post by: britt.25 on August 25, 2006, 04:45:22 AM
Has anyone got a picture of the dying room of Nap. II ?
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Post by: Helen_Azar on August 25, 2006, 08:42:46 AM
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/stepperg/eSCF005020Medium.jpg)

When I was in Vienna two years ago, we took a private tour of the city, and the driver/tour guide told us that part of Schönbrunn palace has been converted into residential condos. I found that very hard to believe, but he insisted it was so. Does anyone know if this is true? I know I didn't misunderstand because I asked a couple of times. Thanks!
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Post by: Silja on August 30, 2006, 08:39:38 AM
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When I was in Vienna two years ago, we took a private tour of the city, and the driver/tour guide told us that part of Schönbrunn palace has been converted into residential condos. I found that very hard to believe, but he insisted it was so. Does anyone know if this is true? I know I didn't misunderstand because I asked a couple of times. Thanks!

No, you didn't misunderstand. This is indeed so.  8)

Can`t someone move this to the right thread by the way????
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Post by: britt.25 on September 03, 2006, 04:25:45 PM
Hello!

I had already written to Rob, the Administrator, to put this topic to the Habsburg thread, but he did not respond me, and evidently did not do that...a pity, maybe he is too busy.
As I only manage the Habsburg thread I can only make changes there, but cannot put this away to the Habsburgs, as I do not manage the Italian royals, too.  :(

I have just come back from Vienna this evening and yesterday I have seen Schloss Schönbrunn, it was really very nice and interesting to see those rooms, unfortunately there was not too much time, as the bus went away so fast >:(

 Its a bit a pity that it is only possible to watch those rooms from the "outside" ( that means behind glasses) and not possible to go into the rooms itselves to see the photos from the near and to feel how to sit there or something 8)
But in general I can only say, it was very impresssive and everyone , who is interested in the topic should go there once. A pity that it´s not allowed to takes photos there...and: you should have some more than me to see it... :P
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Post by: britt.25 on September 03, 2006, 05:00:51 PM
Here some of my photos that I took, they are from yesterday morning.

(Sorry for only from the outside)

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Entrance to the museum:

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From the other side:

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/PICT0356.jpg)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/PICT0354.jpg)
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Post by: amedeo on September 04, 2006, 07:39:10 AM
Do you have pics of Franz Carl's apartment in Schoenbrunn?
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Post by: britt.25 on September 04, 2006, 09:08:01 AM
Do you mean from inside?

The problem is that photographing the rooms was forbidden and so I could not take any photo from the rooms inside. That was really a pity,  photographing was only possible from the outside (the building from the outside).
There were so many interesting rooms with photos, also with stuff of Franz Karl, but unfortunately I could not take pictures. There were too many people, who could have seen it, and maybe I would have come into trouble... :(
 If you find any picture of the room, please send it!
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Post by: amedeo on September 08, 2006, 01:11:49 PM
Thank you anyway.
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Post by: Robert_Hall on September 08, 2006, 01:56:54 PM
I visited Vienna & Schoenbrunn in wintertime, no crowds but very cold.
 I think the parts that have been sold as condos are forner annexes & staff quarters, not the palace proper. I saw something about this when searching for unique properties.
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Post by: britt.25 on September 09, 2006, 06:45:34 AM
Do you mean the rooms, which are to see there, are not those rooms, where the people have once lived?
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Post by: Robert_Hall on September 09, 2006, 09:57:58 AM
Yes, of course they are. It is old staff quarters and service wings that were converted to condos. As I recall.
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Post by: britt.25 on September 11, 2006, 06:20:20 AM
Thanks very much for all of these :D wonderful :D pictures. Did you take all of them by yourself? It´s very interesting that it seems to be possible to take photographs there, or did you get a special permission?
It´s a pity that I could not go there! I only saw Arstetten from the outside, quite far away, when I was driving with the bus away from Vienna. I would be very interested to go there once, I hope I will get a possibility...Did you go there only once or several times? I have read it still belongs to the descendants of Franz Ferdinand, is this right? Did you meet any interesting people there?

Again: Thanks for the nice photos! :D
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Post by: MarieCharlotte on September 11, 2006, 02:14:10 PM
I've been to Artstetten twice. In summer 2003 I was there for the last time. As I am very interested in Archduchess Maria Annunziata, 3rd wife of Archduke Carl Ludwig, I was very excited to see the place she loved so much. But although Annunziata is Franz Ferdinand's mother, you can only see two photos of her and some kind of memorial.

As far as I know, everybody is allowed to take pictures. And yes, I did all these pictures by myself.  ;) I think that you need a special permission if you want to film the exhibition.

Hmm, when I was there in 2003 I met a camera team (ORF). One of the reporters asked my friend and me to walk across the yard. They wanted to film us! Anyway, we refused to do so.

The castle belongs to Anna (Anita) von Hohenberg. She is married and has three children. If I'm right, I once saw her daughter Alix returning to the castle.
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Post by: britt.25 on September 19, 2006, 09:55:22 AM
Wonderful! Most of them, but not all I seem to remember...

A question: Did you take them yourself? Because I did not, I always feared somebody would be worried, if he watchs me...
I would have loved to take of photo of the room of Franz von Reichstadt, and I waited to -maybe- get a moment, where there is nobody else, but it was not possible---more in private...tomorrow finally I hope ;)

I remember the toilet of Franz Joseph (quite modern, isn´t it? ;D)
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Post by: MarieCharlotte on September 19, 2006, 03:21:31 PM
Dear Britt,

I didn't take them myself, of course.  ;) I found them in different books, especially in Elisabeth, Stationen ihres Lebens by Brigitte Hamann and Elisabeth Hassmann, and on www.schoenbrunn.at.

When I was in Vienna last year, I went to Schönbrunn very early in the morning. In most of the rooms I was all alone and I had enough time to look at the photographs, the paitings and the furniture closely. But anyway I didn't dare to take one single picture.  :-X

By the way: If you want to sit on a chair that once belonged to a member of the Imperial family, you have to visit the Möbelmuseum, also called Hofmobiliendepot in Mariahilferstraße. It's officially allowed to sit on certain chairs there.  ;)
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Post by: britt.25 on October 01, 2006, 07:21:04 AM
Thanks very much for posting all these interesting photos from Elisabeths rooms.

As I haven´t been in the inside of the Hofburg, I would be interested to know, if the rooms are still looking like that, or were changed many things in between? Are they still as they are on the pictures?

I really hope that I can see the museum of the Hofburg, when I am in Vienna to any other time... ;)

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Post by: amedeo on October 03, 2006, 08:09:17 AM
Wonderful pics!  Thank you very much!
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Post by: José on October 03, 2006, 10:55:08 AM
I've been to Artstetten twice. In summer 2003 I was there for the last time. As I am very interested in Archduchess Maria Annunziata, 3rd wife of Archduke Carl Ludwig, I was very excited to see the place she loved so much. But although Annunziata is Franz Ferdinand's mother, you can only see two photos of her and some kind of memorial.

The castle belongs to Anna (Anita) von Hohenberg. She is married and has three children. If I'm right, I once saw her daughter Alix returning to the castle.

Maria Annunciata was C-L's 2nd wife.
The 3rd one was Infanta D. Maria Teresa de Bragança   ::)
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Post by: MarieCharlotte on October 03, 2006, 03:57:04 PM
I've been to Artstetten twice. In summer 2003 I was there for the last time. As I am very interested in Archduchess Maria Annunziata, 3rd wife of Archduke Carl Ludwig, I was very excited to see the place she loved so much. But although Annunziata is Franz Ferdinand's mother, you can only see two photos of her and some kind of memorial.

The castle belongs to Anna (Anita) von Hohenberg. She is married and has three children. If I'm right, I once saw her daughter Alix returning to the castle.

Maria Annunciata was C-L's 2nd wife.
The 3rd one was Infanta D. Maria Teresa de Bragança   ::)

I know.  ;) And Anita Hohenberg is mother of four children.
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Post by: Lucien on November 24, 2006, 11:47:38 AM
Getting in the festive mood:

http://www.weihnachtsmarkt.co.at/index.html
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Post by: britt.25 on November 24, 2006, 12:53:07 PM
Thanks for linking to that side! It´s impressive to see Schönbrunn like that!
But strange for me, because I had been there on a very hot day in summer... ;)
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Post by: newfan on July 09, 2007, 09:06:18 PM
lucien do you know if the link to the palaces  link you posted in last year is in english?
thanks
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Post by: Lucien on July 29, 2007, 02:57:50 AM
lucien do you know if the link to the palaces  link you posted in last year is in english?
thanks

http://www.kaiservilla.at/

http://www.schoenbrunn.at/en/site/publicdir/

http://www.schloss-artstetten.at/englisch/schloss.htm

http://www.hofburg-wien.at/en/site/publicdir/

http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/1605/sissy.htm

http://www.belvedere.at/jart/prj3/belvedere/main.jart?rel=en&content-id=1169655785538&reserve-mode=active

A nice sunday outing through Vienna will show you some more Imperial gems:
http://www.virtourist.com/europe/vienna

Courtesy Enric.
 :)
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Post by: Lucien on July 29, 2007, 05:06:58 AM
http://www.liechtensteinmuseum.at/en/pages/1364.asp

http://www.albertina.at/cms/front_content.php?idcatart=54

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Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on July 29, 2007, 09:22:13 PM
That is very interesting you been to the castles MarieCharlotte, in Vienna the pictures look very pretty thanks for the links Lucien. One day I hope to go to the Vienna Hofburg it is so interesting I would like to see the rooms in the place. :)
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Post by: dmitri on July 30, 2007, 11:49:01 PM
I found the Hofburg rather stark, sterile, cold and extremely formal. I think you would find Schoenbrunn Castle far more interesting  and beautiful as well as the Kaiservilla in Bad Ischl. The carriage museum at Schoenbrunn Castle is wonderful.
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Post by: newfan on August 04, 2007, 08:37:14 AM
hi ..thanks for all the links!
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Post by: britt.25 on August 05, 2007, 02:59:40 AM
That is very interesting you been to the castles MarieCharlotte, in Vienna the pictures look very pretty thanks for the links Lucien. One day I hope to go to the Vienna Hofburg it is so interesting I would like to see the rooms in the place. :)

Unfortuntately I did not get the time to see the Hofburg, when I was there last year. It's a pity. Maybe next time. Have you been to Schönbrunn, did you like it??
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Post by: dmitri on August 05, 2007, 03:37:39 AM
Schoenbrunn is much nicer than the Hofburg. It is less sterile and stark and the gardens are superb.
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Post by: Maximilano on September 05, 2007, 12:48:27 AM
In the gardens of Schoenbrun there used to be a laberinth made of  nicely trimed trees and busches, one of the most difficult laberinths to find the exit. Gardeners had constantly had to be called to rescue someone calling for help. The Austrian Socialist Government od Karl Renner, back in 1920 had this wonderfull laberinth destroyed. Empress Zita loved those laberints and got lost on several ocations. She hated to call for help but eventually she did.

Schoenbrun's gardens suffered a lot of neglect after april 1919.
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Post by: Alexander_IV on February 07, 2008, 09:28:23 PM
I've just returned from a 4-day visit to Wien and I can't describe how impressive the city is.
I've seen a lot of big and/or historical European cities but most of them don't even come close to Wien imo.

The city is more than beautiful, the people are extremely friendly, the city was remarkably clean,...
At almost every streetcorner we turned, there was yet another beautiful site, a beautiful palais, a beautiful square, etc. It just never stopped

@britt: The Schönbrunn itself might be prettier than the Hofburg (and the garden, for some reason, I liked more than the one at Versailles, perhaps because it seemed more natural and was a little more sober), but personally I was more impressed by the latter for some reason. The entire part of the city of the Hofburg, the Neues Rathaus and the 2 big museums is just amazing. There are also some great museums harboured in the Hofburg/Neue Burg (Weapons & arms, Imperial treasury, silverware museum, Sisi-museum, etc.).

I think the only city-trip that could top this one would be St-Petersburg (still hoping to get there some time soon :D).
I'll surely be going back to Wien soon since we didn't have time to see half the things we wanted to :(
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Post by: toddy on March 06, 2008, 08:30:35 AM
does nayone have photos or floorplans of laxenburg castle?  the alte schloss and the bluecourt 
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Post by: erzsi on March 06, 2008, 01:36:35 PM
the site of laxenburg can be intresting for you www.schloss-laxenburg.at
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Post by: Maximilano on March 07, 2008, 01:19:32 PM
This castle was private property of the Habsburgs and was confiscated in 1919. Much of the land has been sold to real estate developers who have profited from the land. This was one of the primary residences of Emperor Charles I during WWI. It was here where he saw on several occasions his brother in law Sixtus, brother to Empress Zita. From these meetings derived the so called "Sixtus Affair".
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Post by: toddy on March 08, 2008, 07:40:54 AM
are there any floor plans for laxenburg available??/
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Post by: Lucien on March 09, 2008, 01:13:33 PM
The Eastermarket at Schönbrunn Palace started:

http://www.eastermarket.at/files/info_en.html

From august till the end of january 2009 there's an exhibition on Rudolf's life,mainly one particular interest of his,hunting.
The exh. is at his former appartments.
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Post by: britt.25 on March 10, 2008, 12:54:37 PM
That looks interesting...I wished I had a possibility going there, but haven't because I have exams...
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Post by: Pedroro on October 04, 2008, 06:50:31 PM
Hermes Villa

(http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7112/hermespanoramamx7.jpg)

(http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/4481/hermespanorama1ej9.jpg)

(http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/5080/hermespanorama2fu7.jpg)

(http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/1291/hermespanorama3ci0.jpg)
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Post by: Pedroro on October 05, 2008, 08:22:01 AM
Franzenburg

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5779/22345864rb7.jpg)
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Post by: Lucien on December 19, 2008, 03:26:07 AM
http://www.weihnachtsmarkt.co.at/index.html

 :)
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on December 22, 2008, 06:44:10 AM
Hi There,

I am quit curious, are there ghostst of servants or people from the imperial family in the palaces in schönbrunn, Hofburg, Kaiservilla or the laxenburg or even in the Kaisergruft in the kapuzinerchurch??
Or someone else of the habsburg family anywhere else?

Does anybody have stories about this or articles about it?
Or maybe u saw it yourself?
please share all u got on it..cause its very interesting!

when i was in the kaisergruft i felt a strange atmosphere..so i think there are ghosts.. im so curious..:p

Greets,
Madame-jessy
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on February 05, 2009, 05:51:22 AM
Anyone??
im so curious..
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Post by: Olga Maria on February 06, 2009, 07:49:24 AM
Sorry, YRH Madame Sisi for I've got no news for you.
I'm also interested with this! Thanks for sending this topic!
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on February 07, 2009, 05:22:14 AM
yes me 2..
i ordered a book on an austrian website its called : die habsburger und das übersinnliche, die weiße frau in der hofburg und andere phänomene..
that book is about ghostly stuff around the habsburger..
so i hope it comes in soon..than i maybe can tell more..
but if anybody else knows stories and stuff about this subject.. please post it here!
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Post by: Greenowl on February 07, 2009, 05:43:39 AM
There is the legend of Perchta von Rosenberg, a beautiful daughter of Ulrich II. von Rosenberg, the so-called White Lady. Her father married her against her will to Jan von Lichtenstein, a powerful lord of noble rank and also a violent and boorish man.

 Her marriage was hell on earth, but eventually her husband died and she happily returned to her parental castle and became the good spirit of the castle and helped anyone who had problems. However, the pain she had experienced left its mark upon her and no one ever saw her smile again. Sad, slender, prematurely aged, with curly golden hair covered by a white veil, she walked through the chambers and courtyards of the castle and watched over her brother's estates until her death. After her death she continued to appear in the Rosenberg castles and was known as “The White Lady”. She wore a simple white dress with keys around her waist and was seen floating through the corridors and chambers. A smile on her face was a sign of good tidings whereas black gloves in her hands and a solemn countenance foreshadowed impending disaster or death. Then for some reason the White Lady started to appear when death came to the Habsburgs. She was seen for the first time when Karl V died at Yuste. Every time a Habsburg is about to die she was said to have appeared. She was seen in the Hofburg when the Duke of Reichstadt, son of Napoleon and Marie Louise, Archduchess of Austria, died and was reputed to give a peaceful death to those who saw her.

The White Lady was supposed to have been seen near Mayerling. Apparently Crown Prince Rudolf had killed a white deer some days earlier and the White Lady appeared over the hunting lodge, white and pale as a mirage.

The book "Mayerling: The facts behind the legend" (London, 1971) by the late Fritz Judtmann has a whole chapter devoted to “paranormal” (I wonder if that is the best choice of word??) events surrounding Mayerling. I think he mentions the white deer. However, the part of the chapter that I found most interesting was the so-called “Paramatta mystery”, which strangely enough would sort of “fit in” with the claims made in the Erich Feigl book "Kaiserin Zita. Kronzeugin eines Jahrhunderts". Amalthea, Wien 1989, ISBN 3-85002-277-3.

Cheers,
GREENOWL
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on February 07, 2009, 05:46:11 AM
cool...u got more of this things?
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Post by: Greenowl on February 07, 2009, 06:07:43 AM
No, I am not aware of any other legends associated with ghosts in the imperial palaces, apart from what I read many years ago in the chapter devoted to the “paranormal” in Fritz Judtmann's book "Mayerling: The facts behind the legend" (London, 1971).
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on February 07, 2009, 08:25:40 AM
Well i will see it in the book "Die habsburger und das übersinnliche"...when there are some interesting stories i will place it here..

Oyeah Empress Elisabeth also believed in the spiritual world..She have seen the ghost of Ludwig..
this story is also in the diary of her daughter Marie Valerie.. and in the book of her cousin gräfin Marie Larisch.

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In Elisabeths diary ( not found to this day but quoted by Marie Larisch), Elisabeth explained her tendencies.
I do not belong to those whose spiritual senses are closed off.
And that is why I hear, or, rather,feel the thoughts and the will concerning me of my spirit,
That is why I see blonde Else of the Rhine and Bubi( her nephew Taxis, who died young), once I also saw Max(brother-in-law), but he did not have the strenght to tell me what he clearly wished to tell me.... These images come to me in a waking state, just as a memory arouses "phantoms" while we sleep.
But what I see in the waking state are not phantoms, not hallucinations, as some people, who lack understanding, claim, and so give a meaningless word instead of a logical explanation....It gives me grat satisfaction and deep reassurance in many an hour that I can make a connection with spirits from beyond. But with very few exceptions, people do not understand, they declare to be nonsense.
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Elisabeth told her daughter Marie-Valerie(and she wrote it in her diary) and to Marie Larisch(that also wrote it down) about the "apparitions" of Ludwig II. Once she said, she heard a noise like the gurgling of water while she lay in bed.

Gradually this soft trickle filled the whole room, and I experienced the entire plight of drowning. I wheezed and choked and struggled for air, then the horror disappeared, with my last strenght I sat up in bed and could breathe freely again. The moon had risen, and its glow turned the room bright as day.
Then I saw the door slowly opening, and Ludwig entered.
His clothing was soaked with water, which ran down and formed small puddles on the parquet floor.
His damp hair was sticking to his white face, but it was Ludwig, looking just as he did in life.

Then Elisabeth continued, a conversation with Ludwig's spirit. And  he spoke of a woman who was burning: "I know that it is a woman who loved me, and until her destiny is fulfilled, I shall never be free. But afterward you will meet us, and the three of us will be happy together in paradise."

Elisabeth told Marie Larisch:
"But while I spoke, the apparition vanished; once again I heard the dripping of unseen water and the gurgle of the lake against the shore. I was seized with horror, for I felt the nearness of the shades from that other world who were holding out their ghostly arms, seeking the comfort of the living."
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Post by: Imperial_Grounds on February 07, 2009, 10:11:46 AM
The event spoken of above is mentoined in a dutch roman on Sisi's life. Ludwig came to her, he told her someone they both held dear would die by fire and then she would soon join them. The book is called "Sisi's Winterlied"(Sisi's Wintersong), by Lucas Zandberg. Also I remember Eric Lowe mentioning that the death of Sisi, Sophie, and - if I recall  correctly - Ludwig. He said it was pronounced by a gypsy or something that Ludwig II would die by water, Sophie by fire and Sisi by steel.

And remember Sisi mentoining, only short before her death, that she hoped her spirit to leave her body by a hole in her heart. So that is what happens,
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on February 07, 2009, 11:08:20 AM
The event spoken of above is mentoined in a dutch roman on Sisi's life. Ludwig came to her, he told her someone they both held dear would die by fire and then she would soon join them. The book is called "Sisi's Winterlied"(Sisi's Wintersong), by Lucas Zandberg. Also I remember Eric Lowe mentioning that the death of Sisi, Sophie, and - if I recall  correctly - Ludwig. He said it was pronounced by a gypsy or something that Ludwig II would die by water, Sophie by fire and Sisi by steel.

And remember Sisi mentoining, only short before her death, that she hoped her spirit to leave her body by a hole in her heart. So that is what happens,

I know im dutch to so i have read that book :)
but i read it in Brigitte hamann's the reluctant empress and the diary of marie valeries daughter..
Marie larisch also said in her book that ludwig came to her to tell her the "future" but not very clear..

and that of a gypsy pronouncing it..i've read that also somewhere..dont know exactly where :S
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Post by: Olga Maria on February 07, 2009, 03:51:29 PM
Interesting and scary stories! Thanks to all who posted!
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Post by: Greenowl on February 11, 2009, 06:27:46 PM
Yes, Empress Elisabeth was a great believer in the supernatural, and not only did she have visitations from her cousin Ludwig II, but also from her hero Heinrich Heine, who she claimed appeared to her in dreams and dictated her poetry to her. The Empress was quite sincere in her belief, but it can't have been Heine, as I cannot imagine that his poetic talent could have deteriorated so much after a few decades on "the other side"....or maybe the Empress could not hear him properly (I'm joking of course)!!
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Post by: Olga Maria on February 12, 2009, 02:07:58 AM
Well, did she tell someone about those experiences?
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Post by: Greenowl on February 12, 2009, 03:34:02 AM
Oh yes, she made no secret of it to her friends and to her daughter Marie-Valerie. Brigitte Hamann relates Marie-Valerie's description (as told to her by her mother) of one of the nocturnal visits of "The Master" (Heinrich Heine) on page 452 of her book "Elisabeth, Kaiserin wider Willen" (I think "The Reluctant Empress" is the title of the English translation). The description comes from Marie-Valerie's diary entry of  26.08.1889 with the note "three years ago", so that particular "vision" must have taken place in 1886
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Post by: Olga Maria on February 12, 2009, 10:45:53 PM
Did they believe her? I'm sure they did. ( She's no liar) I'm sure those people she confided with those got scared, too.
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Post by: Greenowl on February 13, 2009, 05:16:01 AM
They believed that she was not trying to fool them and that she was telling the truth as she saw it. However, I have no idea whether they really believed that she had had such experiences. I think that Marie-Valerie was skeptical, but took that attitude that if it made her mother feel happy (which it obviously did), then it was a good thing.

I personally don't believe that Elisabeth "saw" anything....she only dreamed or imagined that she did (although of course to her it was true). As I said (half joking) in a previous post, if Heinrich Heine really dictated poems to Elisabeth, then like him, she would rank among the greatest poets who ever wrote in the German language, but obviously this is not the case and while Elisabeth tried hard to copy "the master", her attempts are just a pale shadow of Heine's work. I wonder which of Heine's poems/books she liked best? Does anyone know? An amusing anecdote (but true) is that on one occasion a famous actor was engaged for a poetry reading at which members of the Imperial family were present. Among the poems was a work by Heine. The actor only recited half of it, as the other half was considered "unsuitable" for imperial ears (poor Heine was always censored for one reason or another). When the actor finished Elisabeth stood up and demanded the rest of the poem....and either forced the actor to recite it or recited it herself. She was a real Heine expert and often consulted on matters pertaining to his work.

Cheers,
GREENOWL
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Post by: Olga Maria on February 13, 2009, 10:36:25 AM
What a good piece of information, GreenOwl! And the rest, I can say, didn't believe her so far.

Yes. I wonder how long her memory could keep what Heine dictated to her! How did she jot down all that Heine said while sleeping, hm?
Something interesting!
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Post by: Greenowl on February 13, 2009, 11:03:05 AM
Not exactly, Ingrid Alexie! She claimed that Heine "moved the pen" as she wrote her poetry and told her what to say as she went along! That was what she believed anyway. But she also reported that he came to her in the night and in dreams....some of her descriptions of these "visits" are almost erotic in character. In "real life" she visited Heine's sister in Hamburg and also consulted with one of his nephews when choosing a statue of Heine for her "Achilleion" in Corfu. Seemingly Baron Nopcsa was a bit shocked that the statue depicted Heine dressed casually in a shirt(or night shirt) and commented on it, to which Countess Festetics replied "at least it is better that Greek God dress (griechischer Goettertoilette) i.e. naked"
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Post by: Joanna on March 30, 2009, 02:13:08 PM
A brief history of Blauer Hof, Laxenburg and floorplan with locations of apartments of Franz Josef, Elizabeth, Karl, etc:

http://www.iiasa.ac.at/Admin/INF/docs/pdf_files/BriefHistory.pdf

Joanna
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on April 27, 2009, 07:27:01 PM
Some paintings of the  famous "white lady".
(http://www.ckrumlov.info/img/3743b.jpg) (http://www.ckrumlov.info/img/1141b.jpg)
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Post by: Carisbrooke on June 11, 2009, 07:16:43 AM
I first visited the achilleion in 96 & was last there in july 98. I hope that most of the information I gained then is still relevant.

Local buses do run to gastouri from corfu town though these are few & far between. The best way to get there is definitely by rented vehicle, thus avoiding the dreaded coach party tours. If your budget does not stretch to a car then hire a motorscooter, but do watch the roads as some are like glass in the summertime. The achilleion is accessible from all parts of the island being at a mid-way point. Park on the main road just outside the house, its chaotic but theres usually enough room for all.

The ground floor rooms only were open on my last visit. I thought the building was in good state of repair, the only drawback I could find was there seemed to be a certain lack of exhibits inside. The gardens were excellent & well looked after, and can anyone else lay claim to a better patio area.

On leaving go down the hill heading fo the coast road, this takes you past the Sissi memorial. Then to round off your journey see the strange sight that is kaiser bridge.

The achilleion may not be to everyones taste, some may say its over the top & kitsch, but I think its great. I came away very much smitten, partially with the house, though I seem to recall at the time it was mostly with Empress Sissi. 
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 01, 2009, 05:09:23 PM
does anybody knows anything about ghosts in Mayerling or laxenburg?
im interesting in those places...especially in mayerling..so much happend there..!

well i came to this question while i just finished watching most haunted on youtube..and they also do palaces...maybe they should go to one of the austrian imperial palaces...i am so curious...
i would go myself by night if i could and got people 2 join me on the investigation...love to expierence it and know more about it..


so does anyone have a story of ghosts and hauntings in mayerling or laxenburg?
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 02, 2009, 12:08:56 PM
Is Mayerling the lodge where Crown Prince Rudolf of Austria killed his lover Mary Vetsera and himself ?....however this is still a mystery.
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Post by: Tina Laroche on July 02, 2009, 01:04:57 PM
Is Mayerling the lodge where Crown Prince Rudolf of Austria killed his lover Mary Vetsera and himself ?

Mayerling was Rudolph's hunting lodge where the couple's bodies were found, as far as I know. It's in Lower Austria.
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 02, 2009, 01:16:49 PM
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mayerling_Incident

Mayerling Lodge is indeed a perfect place for ghost stories.
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 02, 2009, 03:36:14 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mayerling_Incident

Mayerling Lodge is indeed a perfect place for ghost stories.

Yes...but are there people who have written about it or know about people who have seen or heard paranormal stuff in mayerling?
i wanna know the stories..well rather find it out myself..but dont know when im in austria again..
im so curious..they really should send something like most haunted or ghoshunters down there :p

And for sure the kaisergruft in vienna is haunted as well!
when i was there i had strange feelings got sick in some rooms and sometimes felt like i was being touched.. and watched with 100 eyes..followed..temperature changing.. and when i got to the part of sisi, franz, and rudolf..it really made me cry..but in every room i felt something that is like paranormal..that is not on the living side anymore..and the guy at  the entrance desk who sold the ticket was so damn creepy as well...he looked like lurg from the adams family..but then smaller and more long like wet hair that was not quit fresh..and he looked scary..
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 02, 2009, 04:13:21 PM
when i was there i had strange feelings got sick in some rooms and sometimes felt like i was being touched.. and watched with 100 eyes..followed..temperature changing..

I have to confess that I'm skeptical about these things, but once I had those same feelings when I was visiting a medieval castle here in Italy...the strange thing is that I have never heard of paranormal stories about that place...it was just my imagination?, who knows?
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 02, 2009, 04:37:31 PM
when i was there i had strange feelings got sick in some rooms and sometimes felt like i was being touched.. and watched with 100 eyes..followed..temperature changing..

I have to confess that I'm skeptical about these things, but once I had those same feelings when I was visiting a medieval castle here in Italy...the strange thing is that I have never heard of paranormal stories about that place...it was just my imagination?, who knows?

yes..well i always told myself first witness it myself..by hearing, feeling or seeing.. first see than believe you  know.. but when i was like 8 i wtinessed some spooky stuff..but i thought and it was said it was just my imagination..
but now i have also witnessed unexplainable things so i believe it.. like others tell you your crazy but a friend of mine..didnt believe in this stuff and i was with him also in a miedeval castle here in holland and it was halloween and we went for fun there cause it had bedrooms to rent..so we did that..and we were going through scary shit..now he is a believer in those things..but sometimes when people say some things im like yeah well i gotta witness that myself at that place..
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 03, 2009, 07:42:52 AM
About Laxenburg...it was the birthplace of the unlucky Crown Prince Rudolf (and this is a link with Mayerling), but Rudolf to part, what happened there?...I mean, is that Palace remembered for another tragic event?...

A beautiful photo of Laxenburg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blauer_Hof_Laxenburg_3-4.JPG
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 03, 2009, 08:38:46 AM
Also Gisella the second daughter of the imperial couple was born in laxenburg..
And Elisabeth(erzi) the daughter of rudolf was born there..

at the first world war it was badly damaged and i think at that time people might have been passed away there by the tragic war..

if you wanna know more about laxenburg here i have a youtube video of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULDk_tCKo1w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULDk_tCKo1w)
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 03, 2009, 09:01:58 AM
Thank you very much for the beautiful video!, Laxenburg Castle is really amazing, I'd like to go there.
Yes, probably there were victims during the first world war.

Also, are those remains of a pre-existend structure in the park around the castle?...we can see tham at half video...
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 03, 2009, 06:57:11 PM
I can't see you tube videos here :-(
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 04, 2009, 01:24:10 PM
I can't see you tube videos here :-(

on your pc?
just gotta click on the link..
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 06, 2009, 06:51:49 AM
I was looking through a book i have bought in the hofburg...its a kind of tourbook..

but with 2 rooms i found pictures in it.. that have something rare on it...
1 is explainable..i think...but the other not certainly not...

the court kitchen in 1904...i made a cirkle around...this is the one i cant explain when i look cloesely in my book it looks like a cat face..with point ears...but certainly 2 eyes
(http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/1939833/640/1939833.jpg)


Here i see a man..but you can look through him... on none of the pictures are people looking around so..or maybe a lost tourist when they made these fotos..
(http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/1939834/640/1939834.jpg)


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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 06, 2009, 07:30:30 AM
Very interesting!, in which palace these photos were taken?...in the first one I can see very clearly the two "cat eyes"...lights maybe, or the reflection of something?
In the second one, the "mysterious man" could be a lost tourist (as suggested by you), or maybe a vigilant or an employee of the palace...?...the "transparency" of the figure can indicate that the man (or woman) in question was moving at that moment...in fact I think he/she is walking...

EDIT: I think that she is a woman, If I'm not wrong I think that she is wearing a skirt...
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 06, 2009, 10:11:24 AM
both are from the hofburg in vienna.

but i dont think it is a lost tourist or something...cause on all the other photos you dont see tourist or any other person, i believe they made sure no one was standing in any of the rooms during the time these photos were taken..

i also have showed it to my sister in law and she says the second picture could be a woman like a servant back in the days..

the first photo..well..i dont know but if its an reflection..there should be mirrors behind but i only see a door opening behind the man
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 06, 2009, 10:37:14 AM
both are from the hofburg in vienna.

Oh yes sorry, I missed the first part of your post.

Again, about the first photo, now I think that it's not a reflection...lights maybe?, but from what?...surely not from a chandelier.

Second one: I have the habit of finding a rational explanation for everything...but I have to admit that now I don't know what to say  :)...this is the typical picture that makes me mad! - LOL!  ;) :)
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 06, 2009, 01:05:57 PM
I'm curious to know if there are "strange stories" about the Castle of Miramare, is not in Austria, it is here in Italy, precisely in Friuli-Venezia Giulia, near to Trieste (the region of Friuli-Venezia Giulia was under the Austro-Ungharian domination).

In that castle the Archduke Maximilian lived for several years with his wife Charlotte of Belgium...here you can see a photo of the castle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CastelloMiramare.jpg
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 06, 2009, 01:45:44 PM
I'm curious to know if there are "strange stories" about the Castle of Miramare, is not in Austria, it is here in Italy, precisely in Friuli-Venezia Giulia, near to Trieste (the region of Friuli-Venezia Giulia was under the Austro-Ungharian domination).

In that castle the Archduke Maximilian lived for several years with his wife Charlotte of Belgium...here you can see a photo of the castle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CastelloMiramare.jpg

im curious 2 :p

want to know stories about all the habsburg palaces and castles around the world :p
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 06, 2009, 02:30:41 PM
Since I live in Italy, it was very easy for me to find informations about the legends of the Castle of Miramare around the Italian web sites.

I repeat that I'm sceptic, I don't consider myself a "ghosts believer", although I find these stories interesting.

It is said that the ghost of Charlotte of Belgium is still in the castle, according to some testimonials in the castle you can hear the noise of footsteps and you can see lights that turns on and off mysteriously.
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 06, 2009, 06:31:00 PM
I don't believe in gosths, but sometimes is interesting for pass the time,
 RomanovsFan4Ever your information is new for me... Thanks! :-)
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 07, 2009, 05:03:14 AM
Since I live in Italy, it was very easy for me to find informations about the legends of the Castle of Miramare around the Italian web sites.

I repeat that I'm sceptic, I don't consider myself a "ghosts believer", although I find these stories interesting.

It is said that the ghost of Charlotte of Belgium is still in the castle, according to some testimonials in the castle you can hear the noise of footsteps and you can see lights that turns on and off mysteriously.


would love to know more about that...

do you got that story complete...maybe y ou can translate from italian to english...?
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 07, 2009, 05:23:58 AM
I have not yet found the full story but I found other informations that I will be happy to include here on this topic soon...from what I read, there are many legends about the castle.
For example, according to other testimonials, the ghost of Archduke Maximilian of Mexico was seen walking in the garden surrounding the castle...
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 07, 2009, 06:34:06 PM
Do you know more about gosths of Empress Charlotte? Perhaps in the
palaces where she lived in Belgium , no?
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 08, 2009, 04:36:55 AM
this i just found on the internet..also wanna know more about that :p

In Trieste, Italy, there is a beautiful castle called Miramare Castle. The legend says that the castle has a curse. The curse was brought by the ancient Egyptian sphinx that sits outside the castle.
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 08, 2009, 07:36:39 AM
Do you know more about gosths of Empress Charlotte? Perhaps in the
palaces where she lived in Belgium , no?

Unfortunately I don't know nothing about ghosts in the Palaces in Belgium where Charlotte lived, but I will try to find something.
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 08, 2009, 07:41:51 AM
In Trieste, Italy, there is a beautiful castle called Miramare Castle. The legend says that the castle has a curse. The curse was brought by the ancient Egyptian sphinx that sits outside the castle.

Yes, I read about that "curse" on an Italian web site, but in that web site the "curse" was not attributed to the presence of the sphinx, there are probably several versions of this legend.
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Post by: joan_d on July 12, 2009, 02:04:30 PM
I had a holiday in May on Corfu and visited the Achillion Palace (on a"dreaded coach tour" although it wasn't too bad - the guide said she would buy the tickets to  "save the party waiting"  which she paid 4 Euros - we found out later the official admission was 3 Euros !!).

It was in a beautiful position and on quite a small scale as a Palace for Empress.  Very interesting and I agree, there were very few exhibits inside apparently the Palace had been stripped of the furniture and possessions during two wars.
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Post by: Carisbrooke on July 13, 2009, 02:00:19 AM
Perhaps the coach party comment was not called for, some of them can be quite good. I hope you enjoyed corfu.
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 19, 2009, 07:29:57 AM
when i got time tonight/tomorrow i will translate some stories in the book "die habsburger und das ubersinnliche"..there are some interesting stories in it!!
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Post by: Greenowl on July 19, 2009, 11:16:16 AM
Thanks, Madame-Sisi! I am looking forward to hearing those stories. Is their anything in the book about the castles of Brandeis or Kladruby?

Cheers,
GREENOWL
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 20, 2009, 02:42:55 PM
Thanks, Madame-Sisi! I am looking forward to hearing those stories. Is their anything in the book about the castles of Brandeis or Kladruby?

Cheers,
GREENOWL

No not about those castles...

but i had not got time yet...so i think it will be tomorrow or the day after tomorrow... sorry for that delay..but i dont got much time lately..and i need 2 translate it to english here...

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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 22, 2009, 02:08:52 PM
I have One story in the book...well its small story..
Empress Zita has written it.. its about the white lady(der weiße frau von der hofburg) that comes when somebody of the imperial family dies.
she write (I'll Translate it) "on 30 August 1889 Elisabeth  (she is in caux in switserland on that moment)  is enjoying the cool night on the balkony. At midnight she saw in the park of the hotel the white lady very wanderin around very clearly and bright. she stares at her and then the white lady disappears. in the same year on 10th of September she was murdered in Geneve"


Another part of the book(again translated from german 2 english so sorry if there are some writing mistakes):
there is a special interesting story (that has been told by more than one people) and its about an acoustic ghost/phenomenon.
In one hall/salon in schönbrunn castle, at night seems to be a returning voice heared by persons of the imperial family and by the servants in the time of the monarchy.
strangely the nightly whispers and giggles is still heared in our republican days.
some of the people from "schönbrunn-Betriebs-Gesellschaft" have heared/wittnised these noisy but peacefull phenomenon.


In the book is a capitel about empress Elisabeth.. some small parts say she did pagan rituals and Voodoo magic.. because of that she carried with her alot of talismans because of the fear of the evil that could come from the "other side".
(in  a Other book i got a picture of what i believe are her Talismans i shall scan it one of these days)

There is also a capital in the book about archduke Johann Salvator.. he had done some séances with crownprince Rudolf, Archduke Eugen Dr. Widerhofer, Baron Hellenbach and more people..2 communicate with the spirits on the other side.. but i will translate that another time...if anybody is interested in that..
 
Later i will translate more and place it here
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Post by: Greenowl on July 22, 2009, 05:59:40 PM
Thanks, Madame-Sisi! That was most interesting. I am really looking forward to hearing more, as while I am rather sceptical about the supernatural, I nevertheless find it fascinating. If you have any difficulty with translation from German to English send me a PM and I will help you if I can.

With regard to Crown Prince Rudolf and Archduke Johann Salvator: unlike Empress Elisabeth, both were opponents of spiritualism. In 1882 Crown Prince Rudolf published an anonymous 39 page brochure on the subject, in which he criticized the craze for spiritualism that was rampant among the nobility at that time. Two years later, he and Archduke Johann Salvator "unmasked" the famous medium Bastian in the course of a séance and revealed that he was nothing more than a common swindler and crook.
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on July 23, 2009, 03:41:45 AM
Thnx greenowl..no help needed with translating i love languages and though both are noth my own i know them very well ;)

that about unmasking that guy is also written in the book indeed.
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Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 23, 2009, 08:32:24 AM
there is a special interesting story (that has been told by more than one people) and its about an acoustic ghost/phenomenon.
In one hall/salon in schönbrunn castle, at night seems to be a returning voice heared by persons of the imperial family and by the servants in the time of the monarchy.
strangely the nightly whispers and giggles is still heared in our republican days.
some of the people from "schönbrunn-Betriebs-Gesellschaft" have heared/wittnised these noisy but peacefull phenomenon.


Interesting, there are many legends about paranormal acustic phenomena, for example (I'm sorry, it's not very pertinent to the Habsburgs) we have here in Italy a castle in the region of Emilia Romagna where, according to a legend, you can hear a mysterious voice of a child.

And also, I didn't know that Empress Elisabeth was so superstitious, and I didn't know that she has talismans, I descovered another side of her, thank you for the information Madame-Sisi!
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 28, 2009, 04:47:43 PM
Yes, I found a photo of her talismans, You can see it on Empress Sissi and Family Pics III, it's from a
czhec page, I added the link, you will see stgh. like Sissi's things, of course if you haven't seen them
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Post by: Eos on August 11, 2009, 11:39:14 AM
I'm new to this forum, but you know that Maximilian and Charlotte lived in the Chapultepec Castle while in Mexico, and some say that they are used to seeing Charlotte searching for Maximilian in every corner of the castle until she gives up and sits on her bed. Others say that she plays the mexican national anthem on the piano, while others say that both she and Maximilian waltz every night.
It would be really interesting to hear something about the belgian palaces...
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on August 11, 2009, 03:26:30 PM
I'm new to this forum, but you know that Maximilian and Charlotte lived in the Chapultepec Castle while in Mexico, and some say that they are used to seeing Charlotte searching for Maximilian in every corner of the castle until she gives up and sits on her bed. Others say that she plays the mexican national anthem on the piano, while others say that both she and Maximilian waltz every night.
It would be really interesting to hear something about the belgian palaces...
never heard of that story.. very interesting!
got some more information? or a website where i can read about it?
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 12, 2009, 11:10:23 AM
Eos, that information is completely new for me!! I'm mexican and I haven't seen it. i went to Chapultepec
palace a pair of times and no one told me anything, the last saturday i watched a program about Chapultepec palace
ant they didn't mention any word about them, where did you read that info?? Is really interesting, and I
also want to know something about belgian castles but I haven't had luck. Thank you!! :-)
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Post by: Madame-Sisi on August 13, 2009, 06:51:44 AM
I also wonder if it haunts at the place where empress elisabeth died..like by the lake or in the room in the beau Rivage hotel..
doe any one has a story or information about that?
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Imperial_Grounds on August 13, 2009, 07:43:11 AM
Well, I don't know if the hotel is haunted but I do know that the suite still exists, and still is open for guests too, and that every year at christmas a woman comes into the room. I've heard it is quite expensive to stay there and that only exclusive guests have acces to certain things that deal with the tragic event(Like the Eye-witness account of Fanny Mayer on the event and a dress of Sisi, likely the one she died in), but that others are displayed for Sisi-tourists - as those are called. I've read all this in a book called "In Sisi's traces", whioch travels throughout the world to visit places that once have seen the Empress. I think it is only available in Dutch, perhaps in German, up to this day. It has nice pictures in them, including one of the room she died in.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on August 13, 2009, 11:58:58 AM
Well, I don't know if the hotel is haunted but I do know that the suite still exists, and still is open for guests too, and that every year at christmas a woman comes into the room. I've heard it is quite expensive to stay there and that only exclusive guests have acces to certain things that deal with the tragic event(Like the Eye-witness account of Fanny Mayer on the event and a dress of Sisi, likely the one she died in), but that others are displayed for Sisi-tourists - as those are called. I've read all this in a book called "In Sisi's traces", whioch travels throughout the world to visit places that once have seen the Empress. I think it is only available in Dutch, perhaps in German, up to this day. It has nice pictures in them, including one of the room she died in.
I know that book saw it on bol.com but didnt want 2 buy it.
anyway the dress that she was killed in is in the hofburg in vienna. i saw it there 2 years ago.

i really want to know if she haunts the place there around the lake and the hotel..:p would be fun
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eos on August 14, 2009, 12:22:55 AM
I'm Mexican as well and I was under the impression that it was some sort of oral story. There is a website that refers to, pretty much what I wrote, but it's in spanish. It is very "oficialistic" but I'll put it anyway:
http://www.redescolar.ilce.edu.mx/redescolar/publicaciones/publi_prodigios/bosq_chapul/leyenda.htm
I also read somewhere, about a year ago, that there was a story told by a night guard, that works near where Maximilian died, and he (the guard) said that one night, he heard a voice calling him from the bushes, you know the typical "psst" and when he aproached, he saw a bright figure and then he fainted. When the guard woke up the next day, one of his hands was clutched firmly, and inside it held a coin from the time of Maximilian. I don't know where I read it, but I'll search for the website.
About Sissi, I read on Brigitte Hamann's biography, that after they both passed away, she was very keen on speaking with Maximilian and her cousin Ludwig II. And so one day, while at the Kaisergruft she apparently heard little sounds. It may have been a product of her imagination, but still....
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 15, 2009, 06:17:08 PM
Eos:
Thank you very much for the link!!!  I'll read it, it sounds interesting, don't worry I can understand Spanish
, no problem with it, thank you again!!
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on August 16, 2009, 10:58:35 AM
i wish u could understand it!
can someone translate what is on that site??

Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eos on August 16, 2009, 06:36:10 PM
I'll put the translation here:

"THE EMPRESS' GHOST
A long time ago, in Chapultepec Castle, there lived a lady by the name of Charlotte and her husband Maximilian of Habsburg. They came from Austria, an European country. They came to Mexico because, a group of men, the conservatives, had promised to make them Emperors of Mexico. They did not know that it could not be possible, because the mexicans would not allow it. At first, they did not realize how dangerous it was for them to be here, but when they did, they had to fight alongside those who brought them against Benito Juárez and the army. They were defeated and taken as prisioners. When Charlotte found out, she tried to save her husband, asking for forgiveness, but it did not happen and when Charlotte found out about Maximilian's death, she went mad and later died.
With time, the castle became a museum, and a lot of their things are on display so we can see them. Some museum employees and visitors, say that sometimes, during night time, you can see the shadow of a lady walking through the halls and rooms in search of someone and those who have looked closely have found out that it is Charlotte of Habsburg in search of her husband."   http://www.redescolar.ilce.edu.mx/redescolar/publicaciones/publi_prodigios/bosq_chapul/leyenda.htm

I largely disagree with the text; it has MANY mistakes, but what counts is the last paragraph. :)
This is my favorite period of history and the only two times I have ever been to the castle, I get very anxious...
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on August 17, 2009, 05:32:28 AM
thanks Eos!
the text has indeed some mistakes!

but still its interesting 2 hear that people had seen a lady wandering at night.
but i dont think it is charlotte for some reason :S
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eos on August 17, 2009, 07:01:59 AM
I don't think it's Charlotte either. For some reason the lady seems defenseless. If it really were Charlotte, I think her appeareance would be quite forceful, like that, apparently, of Elizabeth I of England in Windsor Castle I think. People would know she was there; but then again, it would point out a serious non-existent knowledge of history, like the mistakes on the text.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 17, 2009, 06:37:14 PM
Your translation is very good!! Again very interesting. Chapultepec Palace is an interesting place not only for Charlotte and Maximilian, also for other historic and interesting things, but of course the story of the mexican imperial couple is interesting too!!!
One photo of the palace
http://www.luxuriousmexico.com/wwwluxuriousmexico/Luxurious%20Mexico/Circuits/Deluxe%20fascinating%20Mexico/The%20Chapultepec%20Castle%20in%20Mexico%20City%20Photo%20by%20visitmexico.jpg (http://www.luxuriousmexico.com/wwwluxuriousmexico/Luxurious%20Mexico/Circuits/Deluxe%20fascinating%20Mexico/The%20Chapultepec%20Castle%20in%20Mexico%20City%20Photo%20by%20visitmexico.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: miki_nastya on September 16, 2009, 02:38:06 PM
 There is a similar threat in the Winsdor's section, so I think we colud do one here. Could you post pictures of any Habsburg palce?
       I alwys  been fascinated about Schönbrunn.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 22, 2009, 03:58:04 AM
schönbrunn:
(http://www.europa-rad-touristik.de/bilder/donau_wien_schoenbrunn_wien_tourismus_jpg)
(http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.data.image.s/s332896b.jpg)
(http://www.konzerte-wien.com/images/illustrationen/abend1.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3556/3448301618_91208513e9.jpg)
(http://www.schoenbrunn.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/BlaueStiege_03.jpg)
(http://www.schoenbrunn.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/ArbeitszimmerFranzJoseph.jpg)
(http://www.schoenbrunn.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/Stiegenkabinett.jpg)
(http://www.schoenbrunn.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/MarieAntoinetteZimmer.jpg)
(http://www.schoenbrunn.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/GelberSalon.jpg)
(http://www.schoenbrunn.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/KleineGalerie.jpg)
(http://www.schoenbrunn.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/Porzellanzimmer.jpg)
(http://www.schoenbrunn.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/SalonFranzKarl.jpg)


Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 22, 2009, 04:16:32 AM
Hofburg:
(http://www.alovelyworld.com/webautri/gimage/autri27.jpg)
(http://www.miele-references.com/media/references/images/vienna_hofburg_ein_zentrum.jpg)
(http://www.funonthenet.in/images/stories/forwards/vienna/Hofburg%20-interior.jpg)
(http://www.funonthenet.in/images/stories/forwards/vienna/Hofburg.jpg)
(http://www.romanvirdi.com/vienna/sissy_room.JPG)
(http://imgpe.trivago.com/uploadimages/53/80/5380723_l.jpeg)
(http://imgpe.trivago.com/uploadimages/51/80/5180740_l.jpeg)
(http://imgpe.trivago.com/uploadimages/54/53/5453536_l.jpeg)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/111/368343286_1023757d8a.jpg)
(http://www.hofburg-wien.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/Kaiserstiege_JW.jpg)
(http://www.hofburg-wien.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/Speisezimmer_JW.jpg)
(http://www.hofburg-wien.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/Audienzwartesaal_LL_web.jpg)
(http://www.hofburg-wien.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/Konferenzzimmer_JW.jpg)
(http://www.hofburg-wien.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/ArbeitszimmerFranzJosephs_JW.jpg)
(http://www.hofburg-wien.at/uploads/tx_extmarginimages/Berglzimmer.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 22, 2009, 04:26:48 AM
Kaiservilla Bad Ischl:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_MXIdqqRCGYM/SGe-8XkGLaI/AAAAAAAAAlU/e9QCV7WmAHQ/DSC03470.JPG)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/478587012_a424dd8eb0.jpg?v=0)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Kaiservilla_Bad_Ischl.JPG)
(http://www.cusoon.at/photos/1191402968/kaiservilla-bad-ischl-oberoesterreich-burgen-schloesser.jpg)
(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/1/958109-War_to_Serbia_was_declared_in_1914_there-Bad_Ischl.jpg)
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8586/958127sissisgymmorebadi.jpg)
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/562/elisaroom220w.gif)
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8946/officecropped220w.gif)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 22, 2009, 04:30:47 AM
Laxenburg:
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9789/schlossparklaxenburgfra.png)
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9933/blauhof.jpg)
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7158/dscf1476tjpg.jpg)
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9756/gartenansicht2.jpg)
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/324/gem2thronsaal2005.jpg)
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1450/haupteingangportal.gif)
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4502/schlosslaxenburgsmall.gif)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 22, 2009, 04:35:01 AM
i will place more tomorrow im quit busy today!
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on September 22, 2009, 04:43:46 AM
Wonderful photos!, I hope to visit all of those palaces very soon, I don't know why I'm particularly attracted by Hofburg palace. 
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: THERRY on September 22, 2009, 06:43:32 AM
Thanks for all these beautiful photos
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: aor on September 22, 2009, 04:35:48 PM
Thank you so much for al that work putting those pictures up!
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 22, 2009, 07:06:29 PM
What photos!!! Thank you veery much for posting them. What nice places!!
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 23, 2009, 02:57:23 AM
Schloss Belvedere, Vienna:
(http://ling.uni-konstanz.de/SemPrag2003/belvedere.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2153/2536058071_e27eed0fe5.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2206/2536876922_de5de8323d.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/a/aa/20071209215412!Wien_Schloss_Belvedere_DSC02997.JPG)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Carlo_Innocenzo_Carlone_-_Prince_Eugene_as_a_new_Apollo_and_leader_of_the_Muses_-_Schloss_Belvedere%2C_Ceiling_of_the_Marble_Hall.JPG/800px-Carlo_Innocenzo_Carlone_-_Prince_Eugene_as_a_new_Apollo_and_leader_of_the_Muses_-_Schloss_Belvedere%2C_Ceiling_of_the_Marble_Hall.JPG)
(http://www.vienna.cc/wienpix/belvedere27.jpg)
(http://www.vienna.cc/wienpix/belvedere10.jpg)
(http://www.vienna.cc/wienpix/belvedere26.jpg)
(http://www.vienna.cc/wienpix/belvedere23.jpg)
(http://www.oepb.at/images/eugen.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 23, 2009, 03:52:12 AM
Hermesvilla, Lainz:
(http://www.talkingcities.co.uk/destinations/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/vienna_image33.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3001/2566142812_8a4297c1f4_o.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Hermesvilla3.jpg/790px-Hermesvilla3.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Hermesvilla2.jpg/784px-Hermesvilla2.jpg)
(http://www.museum.vienna.at/mus_hermesvilla_impress02_gross.jpg)
(http://www.jarayfamily.net/images/hermesvilla.jpg)
(http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/76380/1/Hermesvilla-Ceiling-Paintings.jpg)
(http://keizerin-elisabeth.webs.com/photos/Reisfotos-Wenen---Hermesvilla/P1020055.JPG)
(http://www.vienna.cc/wienpix/hermes08.jpg)
(http://www.vienna.cc/wienpix/hermes11.jpg)
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5092/0201cd.jpg)
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8494/80534015.png)
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/159/58665820.png)
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2938/44880463.png)
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3546/45646s.png)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1569/52707.jpg)
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/826/naamlooskr.png)
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1444/naamloos2h.png)
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4451/naamloos3dy.png)
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1053/naamloos584798.png)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 23, 2009, 04:06:48 AM
Castle Miramare , Trieste ,Italy:
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5752/p6435triesteitalycastel.jpg)
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6532/hallwaymiramare.jpg)
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7782/miramare.jpg)
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7319/miramare2.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on September 23, 2009, 04:19:51 AM
It is indeed one of the most beautiful castles that we have here in Italy.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 23, 2009, 04:23:20 AM
Gödöllo , Hungary:
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6598/szalon.jpg)
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9946/barokksestszoba.jpg)
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1750/budapestimoktober07003.jpg)
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7092/diszlepcsohaz.jpg)
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4975/diszterem.jpg)
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1472/erzsebetemlekere.jpg)
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5945/erzsebetkiremlek.jpg)
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9374/erzsebetkirneoltozosz1.jpg)
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8787/erzsebetszalon.jpg)
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2988/godollo2q.jpg)
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8632/godollo1.jpg)
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6417/goed2.jpg)
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4281/grasskalyha2.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4574/iferencjdolgsz.jpg)
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6720/iferencjszalon.jpg)
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7523/kiallitas23szoba.jpg)
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2461/koronazasikisterem.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5204/sisiszobagoo.jpg)




Again i will post tomorrow more pictures of other palaces of the habsburgs
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: THERRY on September 23, 2009, 06:34:30 AM
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2zgardy.jpg) Thanks
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 23, 2009, 03:30:07 PM
What incredible photos!!! Thank you very much for post them!!!
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 24, 2009, 01:48:44 AM
Achilleion , Corfu:
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2420/pxachilleion.jpg)
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5849/256075117264fec983b6.jpg)
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6868/2560751472888ccde3f1.jpg)
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6779/achilleion.jpg)
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2783/achilleion1.jpg)
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/323/achilleion18.jpg)
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7931/achilleion22.jpg)
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4739/achilleion47.jpg)
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6453/achilleion63.jpg)
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6044/achilleion1897.jpg)
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5913/achillionpalacedrawing.jpg)
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2976/halr.png)
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4726/insie.png)

Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 24, 2009, 02:07:45 AM
Schloss Hetzendorf:
(http://www.modeschulewien.at/web/images/schloss/schloss-ansicht.jpg)
(http://eos.topreal.at/iol/bilder/DB13804193_6F9A.JPG)
(http://www.hrdlicka-parkett.at/images/schloss_hetzendorf_02.jpg)
(http://www.wien.gv.at/verwaltung/personenwesen/ehe/images/hetzendorf2.jpg)
(http://www.wien.gv.at/verwaltung/personenwesen/ehe/images/hetzendorf5.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3335/3304111191_33464733dd_o.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/8/83/Hetzendorf_Stiege.JPG/140px-Hetzendorf_Stiege.JPG)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 24, 2009, 02:35:46 AM
Palais Augarten:
(http://www.viennatouristguide.at/Quiz/Bezirke/02%20Augarten/aug_singen.jpg)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_DujyNgfQf4Q/RrIBGiNt2gI/AAAAAAAAANo/APtvuPlhxIY/CIMG2349.JPG)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Palais_Augarten_Vienna.jpg/800px-Palais_Augarten_Vienna.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 24, 2009, 03:06:46 AM
Albertina ( palace archduke Albrecht):
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Vienna_by_Martin_-_29.JPG/800px-Vienna_by_Martin_-_29.JPG)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Albertina_Vienna_June_2006_607.jpg/450px-Albertina_Vienna_June_2006_607.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_021.jpg/450px-Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_021.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_019.jpg/800px-Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_019.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Albertina_und_Albrechtsbrunnen_um_1898.jpg/762px-Albertina_und_Albrechtsbrunnen_um_1898.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_038.jpg/450px-Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_038.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_040.jpg/450px-Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_040.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_039.jpg/800px-Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_039.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_031.jpg/450px-Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_031.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_008.jpg/800px-Palais_Erzherzog_Albrecht_008.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 24, 2009, 03:13:44 AM
Palais Modena:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Palais_Modena_Vienna_June_2006_320.jpg/450px-Palais_Modena_Vienna_June_2006_320.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/c/c1/Palais_Modena_1.JPG/436px-Palais_Modena_1.JPG)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/c/c0/Modena_1.JPG)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/7/77/Modena_2.JPG)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 24, 2009, 03:30:51 AM
castle Eckartsau:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Eckartsau_Schloss.JPG/792px-Eckartsau_Schloss.JPG)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/5/58/Eckartsau1.jpg/399px-Eckartsau1.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/ee/Eckartsau2.jpg)
(http://www.wildmedia.at/fileadmin/user_upload/wild.media/fotos/hover_gallerie/schloss.jpg)
(http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/7097378.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Eckartsau02.jpg/800px-Eckartsau02.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Eckartsau10.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Eckartsau07.jpg/450px-Eckartsau07.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Eckartsau11.jpg/800px-Eckartsau11.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Eckartsau12.jpg/800px-Eckartsau12.jpg)
(http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/2074962.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2111/3527265675_036780c0ef_o.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 24, 2009, 04:44:50 AM
Castle Hof:
(http://www.guidebratislava.com/img/no02.jpg)
(http://www.guidebratislava.com/img/no03.jpg)
(http://www.guidebratislava.com/img/no01.jpg)
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(http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/images/00012360_Imperial%20Pleasure%20Palace2.jpg)
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Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 24, 2009, 05:22:15 AM
Hofburg , Innsbruck:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Hofburg_Innsbruck_Austria.jpg/800px-Hofburg_Innsbruck_Austria.jpg)
(http://www.cusoon.at/photos/1200058501/kaiserliche-hofburg-innsbruck-innsbruck-tirol-museen-kultur.jpg)
(http://www.cusoon.at/photos/1200060485/b23b958e-5c15-6884-b1e8-7996ae88a179.png)
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(http://www.cusoon.at/photos/1200060583/332d912d-bd04-bd14-69f0-09675966b4e5.png)
(http://www.burghauptmannschaft.at/uploads/670.013-hofburg_innsbruck-02-ffm0.jpg)
(http://www.innsbruck.info/scms/media.php/8679/Riesensaal.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on September 24, 2009, 05:45:27 AM
Villa Wartholz:
(http://www.old-picture.com/europe/pictures/Reichenau-Wartholz.jpg)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 24, 2009, 08:03:43 PM
What beautiful places Madame Sissi! Your images are rally nice!!
Do you have photos of Sissi's furniture?? With explanation?
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eric VdV on October 04, 2009, 09:42:05 AM
My pictures from the Palatin crypt inside the Royal Palace of Budapest.

Like to thank poster Daniel Borovi, 'Dboro', very much for his increadible useful information here, especially for the scan of the royal crypt out your old book.
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=6361.0 (http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=6361.0)
Habsburg / Hungary / Budapest Royal Castle

The crypt was in honour of Archduke Joseph (1776-1847), Palatin (ruler) in Hungary, for the Austrian Emperor.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/EricVdV2006/Palatin%20crypt%20Budapest/Afbeelding058.jpg)
In the middle the giant statue of Archduke Joseph on his grave tomb. At the left the tomb of his third wife Archduchess Maria Dorothea, née Duchess of Württemberg. At the right the tomb of his second wife Archduchess Hermine, née Princess of Anhalt-Bernburg-Schaumburg-Hoym.
The tomb of his first wife is behind.
In front the tomb of Archduchess Elisabeth (1865-1866), granddaughter of Archduke Joseph and eldest daughter of Archduke Joseph (1833-1905) and Archduchess Clotilde, née Princess of Sachsen-Coburg u. Gotha

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Tomb of Archduchess Elisabeth of Austria (1865-1866)

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Grave of Archduchess Alexandrine of Austria, eldest daughter of Archduke Joseph (1776-1847) and his first wife Archduchess Alexandra Pavlovna, née Grand Duchess of Russia and being the eldest daughter of Emperor Paul I of Russia. The child died shortly after her birth, while the mother died 8 days later.
The grave was heavily destroyed and opened during the 1970's by burglars, like some other tombs in the crypt.
At the other corner of the crypt the grave of her halfsister Archduchess Elisabeth (1820-1820).

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/EricVdV2006/Palatin%20crypt%20Budapest/Afbeelding061.jpg)
Grave tomb of Archduke Stephan (Istvan) of Austria (1817-1867), eldest son of Archduke Joseph and of his second wife Archduchess Hermine, who died in child birth the same day as Archduke Stephan and his twin sister Archduchess Hermine (1817-1842),were born.
Archduke Stephan, following the palatin succession, has been exiled from the double monarchy Austria-Hungary to Schaumburg where he lived in the castle of his mother's family. It was presumed he had too many liberal ideas. Finally, he died in Menton, France. His halfsister Queen Marie-Henriette of the Belgians, wife of King Leopold II, paid him (secretly) a visit in Schaumburg before her move to Belgium when she married.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/EricVdV2006/Palatin%20crypt%20Budapest/Afbeelding062.jpg)
Tomb of Archduke Alexander of Austria (1825-1837), eldest son of Archduke Joseph out of his third marriage to Archduchess Maria Dorothea

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Tomb with urn and portrait of Archduchess Alexandra Pavlonna, née Grand Duchess of Russia, first wife of Archduke Joseph. It was well-known that she was very pretty and bloved. Her sister-in-law Grand Duchess Elisabeth Alexievna, wife of future Emperor Alexander I of Russia, was not pleased about her popularity.
The couple were married at the Gatchina Palace in St Petersburg and lived in a small summer house in Ulm, where Archduchess Alexandra Pavlovna firstly was buried until 2004. She couldn't be buried in the crypt as not being sharing the catholic faith of her husband. The same goes for the second and third wife of Archduke Joseph, being both also protestant
I remember the reburial in 2004 took place with many descendants of her husband (out of the third marriage)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/EricVdV2006/Palatin%20crypt%20Budapest/Afbeelding064.jpg)
Impressive monumental tomb with their lying statues of Archduke Joseph (1833-1905), son of Archduke Joseph sr and his third wife Archduchess Maria Dorothea
At the right, again with a lying statue, the grave of their youngest son Archduke Ladislaus (1875-1895), who died in a hunting accident

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/EricVdV2006/Palatin%20crypt%20Budapest/Afbeelding065.jpg)
Again the marvellous tomb of Archduke Joseph (1776-1847) and at the right the tomb of his second wife Archduchess Hermine, while at the left the one of his third wife Archduchess Maria Dorothea and behind her tomb the one of the first wife Archduchess Alexandra Pavlovna
Archduke Joseph knew the tragedy that his first and second wife both died in child birth, respectively only aged 17 and 19!
At the right of the grave of Archduchess Hermine, née Princess of Anhalt-Bernburg-Schaumburg-Hoym, the gravez (not visible here) of her daughter Archduchess Hermine Amalia (1817-1842), who was an abbess in Prague and very popular in Budapest. Everything still named 'Hermine' in Budapest, like e.g. associations, are beared their name after her.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/EricVdV2006/Palatin%20crypt%20Budapest/Afbeelding066.jpg)
Grave tomb of the third generation after the palatin: Archduke Joseph (1872-1962) and his wife Archduchess Augusta (1875-1964), née Princess of Bavaria and being the granddaughter of Emperor Franz Joseph I & Empress Elisabeth through their daughter Archduchess Gisela, married to Prince Leopold of Bavaria.
At the left the little grave of little Archduke Matthias (1904-1905), their youngest son

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Grave tomb of Archduke Joseph Franz (1895-1957) and his wife Archduchess Anna (1903-1976), née Princess of Saxony, parents of present "palatin head of the family" Archduke Joseph Arpad
Next to their grave the one of his eldest sister Archduchess Gisela of Austria (1897-1901)

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Painting of Archduchess Joseph of Austria (1776-1847), Palatin of Hungary, by Peter Kraft, painted in 1820, from the Hungarian National Gallery, Royal Palace Budapest

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/EricVdV2006/Palatin%20crypt%20Budapest/Afbeelding079.jpg)
Archduke Stephan (Istvan) of Austria (1817-1867), portrait from the Military History Museum

Eric VdV
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: aor on October 04, 2009, 10:43:23 AM
Thank you so much for these outstanding pictures!!
So sad to see all these little tombs. Such sadness in his life.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: violetta on October 20, 2009, 02:19:14 PM
Here are some pictures of the Kaputzin church - burial place of the Habsburgs. Beautiful tombs!



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Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: violetta on October 20, 2009, 02:36:40 PM
a tomb of mariya teresa and her husband


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Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: violetta on October 20, 2009, 02:57:55 PM
(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/DSCN0360.jpg)


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Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Trianon on November 24, 2009, 12:43:16 PM
Hello! I live near Vienna and I'm very interested about the Habsburgs, so I've visited some palaces of them. Schoenbrun is a wonderful place with a lot of amazing rooms, the Hofburg is also very interesting, especially the Sisi-museum and of coure the apartments of the emperor and the empress. Also a wonderful palace is "Hof", an amazing baroque area:
http://www.schlosshof.at/cms-en/

Also a wonderful place is Laxenburg with the palace and the Franzensburg, a beautiful english styled park, perfect for relaxing.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on December 15, 2009, 04:20:49 PM
i thought i already talked about the white lady but i just found this small article on internet..thought it would be interesting to post it here!

Hapsburg Dynasty's White Lady - Death Omen

The specter foretells disaster or death for the royal dynasty of the Austro/Hungarian Empire. The origin of the White Lady is unknown. Empress Maria Theresa and others saw her at Schonbrunn Palace on April 5, 1807. Maria Theresa died eight days later. Emperor Francis saw her twice, before the deaths of his wife and his father. Empress Elizabeth saw her twice during the same day. Within a week after the empress saw the specter, she was killed by anarchist Luigi Luccheni.
What are Grey Ladies?
Most of these ghosts are hauntings. A haunting has no intelligence and is energy imprinted in time and space, like a videotape. These specters reenact the scene or scenes repeatedly and do not react to witnesses’ presence. They can appear on the anniversary of their deaths, at certain times, such as during a full moon or a stormy night, or intermittently. Grey ladies who are death omens may appear to the one who is about to die and/or other people
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on December 16, 2009, 04:13:12 AM
Quite interesting!...I heard about the theory of imprinted energy some times in various documentaries, one of them was about an old theatre in England that was considered haunted.
Many spectators claimed of having seen strange figures wandering around on stage, others said they even saw "flames"...it was discovered that about a century before, the theatre was destroyed by fire.

So, has been suggested the theory of the energy imprinted, and the repetition of events occurred a century ago...very interesting theory in my opinion.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Trianon on December 16, 2009, 05:19:09 AM
It's said that the grey lady of the Habsburgs also was seen when there would be a brith in the family. Then she wears white gloves, when she she was saw before a death, she wears black gloves. Interesting is that she was seen in Schönbrunn and also in the Hofburg and also its said that she was seen by Empress Elizabeth one day before she died in Geneva.
In the book "Die Habsburger und das Übersinnliche" is a hole capitel about this ghost, when someone is interested in, I'll read it and post some informations.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on December 16, 2009, 08:35:20 AM
yes thats right!
dont know if i already putted something about the white lady up here from that book? gotta read that back.
its a very interesting book i got it myself aswel.

whats also quit interesting that in that book there are pieces of the diary of empress Zita who tells about her paranormal experience!!
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on December 16, 2009, 09:52:21 AM
whats also quit interesting that in that book there are pieces of the diary of empress Zita who tells about her paranormal experience!!

About Empress Zita, you have posted something in reply #48, but if you can add something more about her experience it would be great, I'm very curious to know more about what Zita written on her diary.
Unfortunately I can't read the book since I don't know German, and also, that book it's not easily available here. :- (
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 18, 2009, 05:25:13 PM
Is it true that Marie Antoniette saw the white lady one time? I'm not sure if it's just a mistake
and thanks for the article below ;-)
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: pers on December 20, 2009, 07:51:22 AM
Please note that the white figure at the end of the enfilade through the rooms of the Empress Elizabeth is an actual life size statue of the Empress Elizabeth.  I am surprised no one has posted on it as yet...
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on December 20, 2009, 09:00:38 AM
This statue?: http://www.sloley.net/1986/019_025.jpg

Another photo, the description on superstock.com says Statue of Sissi. Hofburg Imperial apartments. Vienna.:

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1566/X1300/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1566-052144.jpg
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on December 20, 2009, 03:11:09 PM
Please note that the white figure at the end of the enfilade through the rooms of the Empress Elizabeth is an actual life size statue of the Empress Elizabeth.  I am surprised no one has posted on it as yet...

maybe i have missed something but im a bit confused...what has this to do whit ghosts/ ghosts in palaces?
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on December 21, 2009, 04:09:48 AM
If I understand correctly, I think that pers was referring to this photo that you have posted a couple of pages before:

Here i see a man..but you can look through him... on none of the pictures are people looking around so..or maybe a lost tourist when they made these fotos..
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/1939834/640/1939834.jpg[/img]
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: pers on December 21, 2009, 10:07:43 AM
Yes, you are right, that is the very statue that were posted a few pages before.
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Madame-Sisi on December 23, 2009, 09:42:43 PM
but i wasnt talking about the statue..... other wise it would be dumb to say it could possibly be a ghost..than i wouldnt even post it here...
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Eos on May 20, 2010, 12:58:06 PM
Hello! I haven't written anything in a while, but I've got something interesting now! :)
A book has recently been published here in Mexico, that speaks about the ghost of Emperor Maximilian! The book is called "Guía de fantasmas bicentenarios", (Guide to bicentenary ghosts, because of the 200th anniversary of Mexico's independence, coming up in September) and it is completely dedicated to ghosts from famous peple.
I'll put the passage here and then the translation:

"Desde entonces, 1867, muchas personas vecinas o visitantes de la bella ciudad de Cuernavaca comentaban que en la casa Borda, antiguo refugio de veranos de los infortunados emperadores de México, suelen escucharse suspiros, canto y llanto de una mujer. Algunos veladores o trabajadores del sitio narran que han visto vaporosas figuras femeninas transitar furtivamente, pero sobre todo, parecen huir de una mujer vestida de india, que muy abatida se seca el llanto con un pańuelo, mientras camina lentamente por entre los jardines hasta fundirse, desvaneciéndose, entre las flores y enredaderas.
En excepcionales ocasiones, cuando hay noche de noviluno, y la oscuridad envuelve el tranquilo y siempre florecido jardín, eventualmente se p uede mirar una pareja de jóvenes que apenas se distinguen, pero se adivinan extraordinariamente hermosos y muy enamorados, deslizándose, entrelazados, por entre los andadores del jardín o de alguna plaza cercana. Nadie que los haya visto puede decir que no estaban vivos, o que no se tratara de una difusa pareja, vista en la distancia. El es muy alto, ella menuda.
También desde entonces, afirma una leyenda que cada vez que una pareja feliz  visita Cuernavaca, cuando pasean por algún bello jardín después de la hora veinticinco, o mejor todavía, si visitan los jardines de la Casa Borda, podrán tener la visión."

"Since then, 1867, many neighbors and visitors of the beautiful city of Cuernavaca, say, that at the Casa Borda, old summer house to the emperors of Mexico, sighs, singing and crying coming from a woman can be heard. Some night guards or workers, say that they have seen female figures fleeing from a woman dressed as a native, who, distraught, dries her tears with a handkerchief, while walking slowly until mixing with the flowers and plants.
On exceptional ocassions, when there is a new moon night, when darkness envelopes tranquility, eventually one can see a pair of young lovers that can barely be seen, but that one can tell, are extraordinarily beautiful and very much in love, walking hand in hand in the surroundings of the gardens or a nearby plaza. No person that has seen them can say that they were not alive, one would say that they were a blurry couple seen from afar. He is very tall, she is short.
Also, since then, leyend has it, that whenever a happy couple visits Cuernavaca, while strolling through a beautiful garden at the early hours, or even better, if they visit the gardens of the Casa Borda, they may see them."

This passage refers to Concepción Sedano, Maximilian's mistress in Cuernavaca. It is unclear whether what her connection with the gardener was, no one knows if it was his wife or his daughter, but apparently Maximilian fell deeply in love with her.
Interesting, isn't it?
Title: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: heavensent on October 23, 2010, 12:49:27 PM
I was thinking... these palaces are historically  important and  deserve their own threads...
 Schonbrunn for eg.... I read there are  1444  rooms  !
Title: Re: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Dru on June 27, 2014, 05:46:51 PM
Are there any pre-WWII images of the palace at Alcsútdoboz (residence of Archduke Joseph, Palatine of Hungary)?  I have seen photos of the ruins, but I would like to know what it looked like before it was destroyed.
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Title: Re: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Joanna on March 13, 2018, 08:56:43 PM
Step into the past with Emperor Franz Joseph and Empress Elisabeth in the summer of 1870 in Bad Ischl, Austria

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2018/03/emperor-franz-joseph-empress-elisabeth.html

Joanna
Title: Re: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Joanna on March 21, 2018, 02:01:50 PM
Rare photographs c1890s of the Hermesvilla interiors in Vienna Austria from the time of Emperor Franz Joseph and Empress Elisabeth

http://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2018/03/nicholas-ii-and-empress-alexandra-visit.html

Joanna
Title: Re: Palaces,residencies, estates of the Habsburgs
Post by: Joanna on April 01, 2018, 01:10:52 PM
Click on the link below for rare photographs of Emperor Franz Joseph’s study and guest bedrooms in the Hofburg, Vienna

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2018/04/emperor-franz-josephs-study-guest.html

Joanna