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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Imperial Claimants Post Here => Topic started by: rosieposie on August 13, 2013, 08:16:18 AM

Title: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: rosieposie on August 13, 2013, 08:16:18 AM
While looking for various Romanov media scenes I came across this little gem...

(http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy227/rosieposieAP/Um_zps9450595d.jpg) (http://s794.photobucket.com/user/rosieposieAP/media/Um_zps9450595d.jpg.html)

I can't believe this person is claiming to be a 7 year old.   I am very certain a 7 year old would not be talking like that even if English is their second language and they chose a name like Sarah Lopez.   

Has anyone else found anything like this?   I know I have seen a few in my time online.  If you have please share.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 15, 2013, 03:36:10 PM
Mr H binkow ,who has serious mental issues, post this gem on Queen Marie of Romania s facebook. A hidden daughter of Princess Elisabeth of Romania and Grand duke Dmitri Pavlovich . LOL!!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4493354110687&set=o.102933378591&type=1&theater
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: GDLynn on September 15, 2013, 11:21:14 PM
Found this nut job on facebook today! claims to be the granddaughter of Tatiana and that she (her name is Alexandra) is returning to Russia to take the throne. She posted on one of the pictures that Tatiana lived because she wasn't even there that night.

https://www.facebook.com/russian.monarchy
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: TimM on September 16, 2013, 10:57:05 AM
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Found this nut job on facebook today! claims to be the granddaughter of Tatiana and that she (her name is Alexandra) is returning to Russia to take the throne. She posted on one of the pictures that Tatiana lived because she wasn't even there that night.


Sounds like this person read The Tsarina's Daughter (the plot which says Tatiana was substituted by someone else and the guards were clearly too dumb to notice).

So she's going to Russia to take the throne, eh..


Putin:  Who are you?

Alexandra:  I'm the granddaughter of the Grand Duchess, Tatiana.

Putin:  Sure you are!  **under his breath** Oh God, not another one.

Alexandra:  I'm here to claim the Russian Throne

Putin:  Very well.  I'll call some men in some white coats to escort you to the palace.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Превед on September 16, 2013, 11:03:49 AM
Indeed, these people would perhaps be charged with "desecrating the All-Russian national heritage" if they took a trip to the Russia of Putin, who always seems to be on the lookout for some fringe group he can persecute to stirr nationalist feeling.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: TimM on September 17, 2013, 12:05:12 PM
This lady clearly has some screws loose.  We know that none of them survived that horrible night in 1918.  Why do these people keep popping up?
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Jen_94 on September 17, 2013, 01:09:57 PM
These claimants are crazy.....that Sarah Lopez, she's 7, and I agree, why would a 7 year old be talking like that?
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Bryndis on September 17, 2013, 01:45:48 PM
So her grandmother was Tatiana and her grandfather...Lenin? Now I've seen all :|
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: TimM on September 17, 2013, 05:25:46 PM
Tatiana and LENIN!?!?

That is wrong on SO many levels.  This girl needs to be locked up in the loony bin if she thinks anyone is gonna buy this.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: GDLynn on September 17, 2013, 08:37:06 PM
Tatiana and LENIN!?!?

That is wrong on SO many levels.  This girl needs to be locked up in the loony bin if she thinks anyone is gonna buy this.

haha! yea I saw that! this girl has a few screws loose to come up with a story like this. Also, she has a picture of The Tsarina's Daughter book cover on her facebook.....hummmm think we know where this all started then.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: edubs31 on September 17, 2013, 10:43:12 PM
We should start a FB page claiming to be the great-children of Olga Nikolaevna and Leon Trotsky, then add her as a friend :-)
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Bryndis on September 18, 2013, 10:15:57 AM
I call dibs on being the grandchild of Anastasia + Kerensky.
But seriously! Why are people believing her and calling her Her Majesty? Or are they all her other personalities :| 
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: TimM on September 18, 2013, 11:05:42 AM
Maybe I'll get in touch with this person, tell her I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell her.  That is, after my jamming session with Elvis.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Jen_94 on September 18, 2013, 01:10:21 PM
lol Tim!

Seriously, when a claimant says that their grandfather is Lenin and grandmother is Tatiana....then you know it's false.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: edubs31 on September 18, 2013, 03:10:48 PM
lol Tim!

Seriously, when a claimant says that their grandfather is Lenin and grandmother is Tatiana....then you know it's false.

Judging from her FB profile she doesn't look older than about 40. Lenin who died in 1924 would be awfully old to be just her grandfather. How many people do you know of have a grandparent who is over a century older then they? Not impossible but highly unlikely. Which still makes it far more likely than anything else in her story.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: TimM on September 18, 2013, 05:13:28 PM
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How many people do you know of have a grandparent who is over a century older then they?

Depends on how late in life they married and had kids.  My paternal grandfather was born in 1878.  He was 48 when my father was born (1926) and 88 when I came along (1966).  He died in 1973.

However, since we know that Tatiana did not survive the murders, anything this woman says is pure bunk.  Seems reality is a foreign concept to these people.  They can't claim to be OTMAA anymore, too much time has passed.  So now they claim to be the grandchildren or great-grandchildren of OTMAA.

I love how she says she's going to Russia to "take the throne".  Someone should tell this lady that there is NO throne in Russia, and hasn't been since 1917.  So even if she were a Romanov, which she most certainly is not, she would be wasting her time.  However, as I said, reality and these people are strangers to one another.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: rosieposie on September 19, 2013, 05:10:51 AM
Tim your blood line is similar to mine.  My great grandmother was 41 when she had my grandfather and when I came along she was 84 lol.     But yeah when I read that comment on a video I thought, is this serious? 
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: TimM on September 20, 2013, 12:02:35 PM
Yeah, I've always found it kind of cool that my paternal grandfather had clear memories of Queen Victoria (both my paternal grandparents were born in Britain) and was still alive when Neil Armstrong set foot on the Moon.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Jen_94 on September 21, 2013, 05:12:01 AM
Yeah, I've always found it kind of cool that my paternal grandfather had clear memories of Queen Victoria (both my paternal grandparents were born in Britain) and was still alive when Neil Armstrong set foot on the Moon.

That's quite incredible!
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: edubs31 on September 21, 2013, 09:45:48 AM
Yeah, I've always found it kind of cool that my paternal grandfather had clear memories of Queen Victoria (both my paternal grandparents were born in Britain) and was still alive when Neil Armstrong set foot on the Moon.

At the risk of sliding us off topic. I've always wondered, lets say you were fortunate to live to 100, what would be the ultimate time frame to where you could have seen the most change and innovations?

Tim, similar to your grandfather, living from roughly 1870-1970 would have been pretty amazing. You would have lived your childhood pre-automobile but then lived long enough to see men in spaceships land on the moon. The cultural change, depending on what part of the world you were from, would have been pretty amazing too. Victorian-era, industrial revolution, the 20s, Jazz Age, two World War's, Rock 'n' Roll, the counter-culture, etc. You'd have lived through it all!

I feel like society continue to push forward until roughly the 1970s. Things started slowing down a bit then. In other words, while there are always some measure of technologic innovation and social development I don't feel as though anything revolutionary (aside from perhaps music) happened in the 70s. Most of what fascinates us about that decade is really a continuation or offshoot from the far more revolutionary 60s.

By the time the 80s rolled around computers starting playing a larger and larger role in society and the 90s were a major decade for tech and economic (if not cultural) breakthroughs. I must say the 2010s so far are about as bland as can be. Faster and small cell phones and what else? lol. But a life from 1900-2000 would have been pretty amazing also.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: TimM on September 21, 2013, 10:55:19 AM
My maternal grandmother lived from 1912 to 2006.  Last year, on the centennial of her birth, I wrote the following.

On July 8, 1912, my maternal grandmother, whom I was very close to, Patty Nicol, was born. She died in 2006 at the age of 94. On this, the centennial of her birth, I thought I would write this little article.

When my Grandma was born, the telephone was less than fifty years old. There were no radios, no television sets, no PC's or Macs, no Internet, and no cell phones. My Grandma saw them all appear in her lifetime.

When my Grandma was born, cars were still coming into common usage. A lot of people still used horses and buggies to get around. My Grandma saw them give way to the automobile.

When my Grandma was born, there were no man made object orbiting the Earth. Men in space belonged to the writings of H.G. Wells and Jules Verne. My Grandma saw science fiction become reality.

When my Grandma was born, only nine years had passed since the Wright Brothers flew their first plane. My Grandma saw the arrival of modern air travel.

When my Grandma was born, the British, German, Russian, and Austrian Empires still existed. Only a few years would pass before three of those empires would fall, and later, the fourth would evolve into a commonwealth. My Grandma saw both World Wars that altered our world (she was in the WAC in World War II).

When my Grandma was born, Canada was still a British colony, the U.S. only had only 48 states (some having only become states that same year she was born). In her lifetime, Canada became an independent country and the U.S. got the 50 states it has now.

Amazing how much the world changed in my Grandma's lifetime.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: edubs31 on September 21, 2013, 05:03:59 PM
Very nice Tim.

I'm fortunate to have a grandmother still around. She'll be 98 in December. Mind boggling to think she could have lived through so much. She was alive when there was still a Russian Empire, and long outlived the Soviet Union. Too bad the effects of dementia have taken hold of her over the past few years. Up through her 90th birthday, around the time your grandmother passed away, she was still very cognizant of the world around her.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: TimM on September 21, 2013, 05:28:40 PM
That's a shame your grandmother has lost so much of her memories.  Like mine, she lived through all the major events of the 20th Century.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Превед on September 21, 2013, 05:39:11 PM
At the risk of sliding us off topic. I've always wondered, lets say you were fortunate to live to 100, what would be the ultimate time frame to where you could have seen the most change and innovations?

I do agree that living through the 20th century would have exposed you to more drastic material changes, but in terms of world view I think living 1820-1920 would have exposed you to greater changes. You would have been born into a quasi medieval, pre-industrial society and your parents, grandparents etc. would have experienced (and told you about) life before the French (and American) Revolution, when property and privilege mattered more than human life. You would have lived though tremendous political reforms and when you died, you could foresee the triumph of democracy and the welfare state in the West (thanks to WW1 and the threat of Socialism) and believe that the "dictatorship of the proletariat" had triumphed in Russia.

Figurately speaking, you would have seen the lofty Enlightenment ideas of your parents' and grandparents' generations carried out practically, when humble folks with the right to vote would use electric light to read newspapers, books etc. after work in order to educate themselves on public affairs and let their voice be heard, instead of the oral culture of your childhood, when ignorant subjects sat around the fire telling fairytales and stories of kings and queens and had no say or interest in politics beyond their own little village world.

It's interesting to consider that if you lived in the US (in states without slavery), you could live through this change in mentality as early as 1700-1800. In Russia you would have to wait and live 1900-2000.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 24, 2013, 03:51:14 PM
Found this nut job on facebook today! claims to be the granddaughter of Tatiana and that she (her name is Alexandra) is returning to Russia to take the throne. She posted on one of the pictures that Tatiana lived because she wasn't even there that night.

https://www.facebook.com/russian.monarchy

Is this my misunderstanding or the "Empress of Russia" isn't happy enough with the Russian Imperial Crown and is also claiming to have "rights" for the British Crown??? (see Sepetmber 20th post).
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: edubs31 on September 24, 2013, 04:12:08 PM
At the risk of sliding us off topic. I've always wondered, lets say you were fortunate to live to 100, what would be the ultimate time frame to where you could have seen the most change and innovations?

I do agree that living through the 20th century would have exposed you to more drastic material changes, but in terms of world view I think living 1820-1920 would have exposed you to greater changes. You would have been born into a quasi medieval, pre-industrial society and your parents, grandparents etc. would have experienced (and told you about) life before the French (and American) Revolution, when property and privilege mattered more than human life. You would have lived though tremendous political reforms and when you died, you could foresee the triumph of democracy and the welfare state in the West (thanks to WW1 and the threat of Socialism) and believe that the "dictatorship of the proletariat" had triumphed in Russia.

Figurately speaking, you would have seen the lofty Enlightenment ideas of your parents' and grandparents' generations carried out practically, when humble folks with the right to vote would use electric light to read newspapers, books etc. after work in order to educate themselves on public affairs and let their voice be heard, instead of the oral culture of your childhood, when ignorant subjects sat around the fire telling fairytales and stories of kings and queens and had no say or interest in politics beyond their own little village world.

It's interesting to consider that if you lived in the US (in states without slavery), you could live through this change in mentality as early as 1700-1800. In Russia you would have to wait and live 1900-2000.

1820-1920 would of course be fascinating. So many incredible innovations in technology. Transportation alone went from the horse and buggy, to the train, then automobiles, and then air travel. From an American standpoint I think it's obvious that 1770-1870 would be the most interesting in terms of changing politics. You'd have been six years old and witness to revolution and the birth of the republic, and lived long enough to see the Civil War and end of slavery & succession. In between you would have seen a nation develop culturally and politically from its agrarian colonial roots, to one of an industrial capitalist power.

Still it's impossible to beat the 20th century in terms of popular culture and shifting attitudes. From the birth of film industry, to jazz and rock and roll. Radio, television, computers and internet. From automobiles and spaceships. From Kitty Hawk to the Moon and everything in between!
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: edubs31 on September 24, 2013, 04:14:36 PM
Found this nut job on facebook today! claims to be the granddaughter of Tatiana and that she (her name is Alexandra) is returning to Russia to take the throne. She posted on one of the pictures that Tatiana lived because she wasn't even there that night.

https://www.facebook.com/russian.monarchy

Is this my misunderstanding or the "Empress of Russia" isn't happy enough with the Russian Imperial Crown and is also claiming to have "rights" for the British Crown??? (see Sepetmber 20th post).

Yelena I see someone actually contested her claim. How nice :-) I'm tempted to post a comment or two myself but I keep getting reminded of what my grandfather used to tell me..."Don't argue with an idiot, you may not know the difference".
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Duchess Room 311 on September 24, 2013, 07:15:12 PM
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How many people do you know of have a grandparent who is over a century older then they?



I love how she says she's going to Russia to "take the throne".  Someone should tell this lady that there is NO throne in Russia, and hasn't been since 1917.  So even if she were a Romanov, which she most certainly is not, she would be wasting her time.  However, as I said, reality and these people are strangers to one another.

Tim, you may find this part of this article on Wiki of interest.  Here is a quote:  "After the Soviet Union broke apart in the early 1990s, Leningrad reverted to its original name of Saint Petersburg, and a private delegation visited Ilyinsky while he served on Palm Beach City Council to ask him to return to Russia to claim the throne as tsar. Ilyinsky said, "Gentlemen, I could not be more pleased and flattered at your invitation, but I must tell you that I am entirely satisfied with my present occupation."

Ilyinsky died at his home in Palm Beach, Florida, in February 2004.[2]"   
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ilyinsky
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Duchess Room 311 on September 24, 2013, 07:20:05 PM
...and he was the only son of Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: TimM on September 25, 2013, 10:51:34 AM
Interesting. 

Anyway, no matter what any nutcase says, they can't be a claimant.  We all know that.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Превед on September 25, 2013, 02:39:39 PM
and a private delegation visited Ilyinsky while he served on Palm Beach City Council to ask him to return to Russia to claim the throne as tsar.
OK, it may have been Solzhenitsyn et al., but "a private delegation" might of course just as well mean a few Russian equivalents of the self-appointed "custodians of the throne" mocked in this and surrounding threads.

Still it's impossible to beat the 20th century in terms of popular culture and shifting attitudes. From the birth of film industry, to jazz and rock and roll. Radio, television, computers and internet. From automobiles and spaceships. From Kitty Hawk to the Moon and everything in between!
But it's interesting to consider that most of our pop culture gadgets are just developments of stuff that already was in place at the beginning at the 20th century. It's really not a revolution, just an evolution.

The moon landing was of course extremely important, from a scientific point of view (and intellectually, for those few who grasped its real significance  and not just experienced it as more sci-fi entertainment), but ironically I think most people in the developed world already had "forgotten" the moon by the 1960s, as electric light had made them relatively  independent of the forces of darkness and light (including moonlight) which ruled the Old World in a far greater measure than all the kings and emperors combined. Most of Nicholas II's subjects rose with the sun and went to bed with the sun.



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Post by: amelia on September 25, 2013, 02:56:10 PM
I met Paul Ilinsky in Palm Beach, Florida. He was the Mayor there and he used to say that he was "The Tsar of Palm Beach" He was the perfect gentleman and looked very much like his father, probably taller. He liked to be called Pauly.

Amelia (Eva McDonald)
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: edubs31 on September 25, 2013, 05:50:04 PM

Still it's impossible to beat the 20th century in terms of popular culture and shifting attitudes. From the birth of film industry, to jazz and rock and roll. Radio, television, computers and internet. From automobiles and spaceships. From Kitty Hawk to the Moon and everything in between!
But it's interesting to consider that most of our pop culture gadgets are just developments of stuff that already was in place at the beginning at the 20th century. It's really not a revolution, just an evolution.

The moon landing was of course extremely important, from a scientific point of view (and intellectually, for those few who grasped its real significance  and not just experienced it as more sci-fi entertainment), but ironically I think most people in the developed world already had "forgotten" the moon by the 1960s, as electric light had made them relatively  independent of the forces of darkness and light (including moonlight) which ruled the Old World in a far greater measure than all the kings and emperors combined. Most of Nicholas II's subjects rose with the sun and went to bed with the sun.

To some extent I agree with your first comment. I think we have hit a bit of wall in terms of gadget technology (perhaps technological advances in general) to where we are more about refining the products we have rather creating anything brand new.

But while I'm not certain what you refer to as "pop culture gadgets", certainly the idea of television, computer, internet and rocket ships were little more than science fiction in 1920. The internet came out of nowhere as well. In the early-90s it first became known to the masses. By 1995 there 16-million members, and now there are over 2.7-billion. Rock and roll too was something of an entertainment and cultural revolution. Sure it had its roots in blues, rockabilly, and country & western, but no one as late as the very early-1950s could have imagined how this new form of music would have shook the world over the next few years.

Also I agree the moon itself probably lost its luster over the decades as technology meant we no longer had to depend on it, and scientists revealed it a lifeless desert without mystery. But it's a still regarded as a check point for exploration in human history. Mankind has proven that we are, at heart, all explorers. It's the natural outcome of curiosity and having the means for travel. We didn't "discover" the moon in 1969 they way Columbus did the new world in 1492, but in terms of "what's next" it was equally important.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: TimM on September 26, 2013, 05:12:00 PM
Of course, the question is where do we go next.  Mars, I suppose.


Anyway, to get this thread somewhat back on topic, I have to wonder why these people keep it up. DNA has proven that they all died on July 17th, 1918.  None of them survived and had children, so therefore, there can be NO descendants of NAOTMAA alive today.

The idea that my cat, Tatiana, is the reincarnation of the Grand Duchess has better credibility than someone going around saying they're Tatiana's grandchild.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: rosieposie on October 23, 2013, 07:34:23 AM
Your Tatiana is adorable.   

I think it is sad I mean I have seen a guy who frequents Romanov fan pages to go on about his grandmother being Olga N and showing comparison photos of Olga N's "daughter" and "grandson" it is kind of sad really.   He also has articles of his grandmother in Spanish saying she is Olga N. 
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Post by: TimM on October 23, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
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Your Tatiana is adorable.


Thanks, Chantelle.


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I think it is sad I mean I have seen a guy who frequents Romanov fan pages to go on about his grandmother being Olga N and showing comparison photos of Olga N's "daughter" and "grandson" it is kind of sad really.   He also has articles of his grandmother in Spanish saying she is Olga N.
 

Clearly this poor chap is not in touch with reality.  I wonder if he also thinks he's Elvis's love child.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Превед on October 24, 2013, 08:59:40 AM
Clearly this poor chap is not in touch with reality.  I wonder if he also thinks he's Elvis's love child.

Oh, but you know there are such interesting and CLOSE links between Elvis and the Romanovs:
Elvis met his wife Priscilla in (Bad Nauheim) in the Romanovs' second homeland, the former Grand Duchy of Hesse and Priscilla's grandfather was from the same Norwegian province as, Cornelius Cruys, Peter the Great's trusted admiral and best man at his wedding to Katarina I! That can't be co´ncidence, can it!?
:-)
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Post by: TimM on October 25, 2013, 02:07:34 AM
Maybe they were all abducted by the same aliens.

Shhhhhh, Cancerman might be listening!
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 29, 2013, 02:25:13 PM
Someone mentioned a whule ago the stupid, sad and pathetic story of the lost and hidden "daughter" of Princess Elisabeta of Romania and Grand duke Dmitri Pavlovich. Well, here s the supposed daughter , supported for a well know ex member of this forum

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=628845940480913&set=pb.218861104812734.-2207520000.1383074384.&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash3%2F1238902_628845940480913_868117395_n.jpg&size=389%2C622

He couldnt convince anyone about the lost son of Gd Mikhail Alexandrovich, so he made out another story. Thats sad...so sad
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Post by: TimM on October 30, 2013, 04:13:52 AM
You just wish you could say to him:  "Dude, give it up.  No one here is buying what you're selling.
Title: Re: Claimants on YOUTUBE and other sites.
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 30, 2013, 09:57:06 AM
We told him over here but he never got the memo and he had to be banned from here because it was getting very annoying.
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Post by: TimM on October 30, 2013, 10:57:09 AM
Some people just can't face reality, it seems.
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Post by: rosieposie on December 19, 2013, 06:08:28 PM
Just posted it in the Windsor sub forum.  The claimant I mentioned early who thinks he is the son of Princess Margaret has won the rights to look at her last will and testament.     I can not fathom how this guy can do this,  I mean DNA testing?    If they could DNA test Philip for Anna Anderson,  I am sure they can DNA test either the Queen for this Robert Brown.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2526551/Accountant-believes-secret-illegitmate-son-Princess-Margaret-wins-legal-victory-bid-will.html
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Post by: GDSophie on May 28, 2016, 12:35:22 PM
I remember reading on another website that a man was claiming to be the grandson of Olga and that AOTMAA survived and fled the shooting. He had mass followers and he was talking about trying to claim the Russian throne and being allowed permission to go into the Russian Archives. I don't think the people who believed him were serious or not, but to test if they just believed everything on that website, I made a claim that my grandmother was Grand Duchess Tatiana. Of course, they believed me and so did he! He went on for days about my evidence being accurate and even calling me 'cousin'! Just goes to prove that people believe everything they hear. I haven't been back on it for a while and don't remember the website so I can't go back. Oops. But I am NOT claiming to be a Romanov, just so you know, just telling you about the story and how I was able to prove he was a liar, and this was before the remains were found in 2007.
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Post by: Kalafrana on May 28, 2016, 01:07:04 PM
Msge.42

No, I don't think the Queen will agree to DNA testing in relation to Robert Brown's claims (incidentally, Mr Brown seems to have gone quiet since his successful court case over Princess Margaret's will).

The IF were long dead, and using the Duke of Edinburgh's DNA to put that beyond doubt (except to head cases) was essentially of historical importance. By contrast, Mr Brown is still alive and clearly a head case. The Queen's own views can perhaps be ascertained from her declining to agree to DNA testing of the supposed bones of the 'Princes in the Tower' in Westminster Abbey.

Ann   
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Post by: TimM on June 07, 2016, 07:26:03 AM
DNA testing really has debunked a lot of absurd claims, hasn't it.
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Post by: DNAgenie on June 07, 2016, 06:06:38 PM
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DNA testing really has debunked a lot of absurd claims, hasn't it.

It certainly has. For example, DNA testing has debunked the claim that Prince Albert of Saxe Coburg-Gotha was illegitimate. His British Coburg descendants in the male line match the Y-DNA of other male-line descendants of his ancestor Leopold I, King of the Belgians so that claim has now been proved to be absurd.

However DNA sometimes confirms claims that were thought to be absurd, and those results are not always made public. Silence does not always mean failure.
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Post by: Royal Bloodline Descent on July 10, 2016, 12:40:55 AM
DNAgenie

You are correct to say DNA testing has debunked the claim that prince Albert of Saxe ciburg was illegitimate with the poof of his British Coburg decedents etc. Like before when RBD posted photo proof of the same ancestor gene been passed down in certain royal decedents but was questioned by some as fraud or manipulation of facts and Photos.

You appear to be a knowledgeable person and Royal Bloodline Descent appreciates people who like yourself understand what is correct and what is not.

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DNA testing really has debunked a lot of absurd claims, hasn't it.

It certainly has. For example, DNA testing has debunked the claim that Prince Albert of Saxe Coburg-Gotha was illegitimate. His British Coburg descendants in the male line match the Y-DNA of other male-line descendants of his ancestor Leopold I, King of the Belgians so that claim has now been proved to be absurd.

However DNA sometimes confirms claims that were thought to be absurd, and those results are not always made public. Silence does not always mean failure.