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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Myth and Legends of Survivors => Topic started by: Romanov_Fan19 on June 01, 2016, 02:12:29 PM

Title: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on June 01, 2016, 02:12:29 PM
Does the home of Jack Manhan  still  stand
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: rgt9w on June 01, 2016, 05:53:42 PM
Both of Jack and Anna Manahan's homes still stand and are private residences.  They primarily lived in Charlottesville, near the grounds of the University of Virginia on University Circle.  They also owned Fairview Farm near Scottsville.  Fairview was heavily damaged by fire about 10 years ago.

http://www.readthehook.com/76880/manahan-hurt-house-gutted-blaze
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: TimM on June 02, 2016, 07:06:16 AM
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Both of Jack and Anna Manahan's homes still stand and are private residences.

At least they didn't turn them into tacky tourists traps. 
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: rgt9w on June 05, 2016, 11:43:34 AM
Here is an image of the front of the University Circle home from "The Hook", a local Charlottesville journal.

http://www.readthehook.com/files/old/images/issues/2007/0627/cover-jackman-UCircle.jpg
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: Doulton on October 17, 2016, 04:48:05 PM
I lived in Charlottesville from 1973-1977 and the house was obscured by trees, an untended garden that had run wild.  I saw Anna Anderson and her husband at the local public library a few times.  They had an old car.  I always wondered why the city of Charlottesville did not require them to tend their yard.  University Circle was a pleasant street in a neighborhood of wealthier streets with larger houses.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: Превед on October 18, 2016, 12:06:03 PM
They had an old car.  I always wondered why the city of Charlottesville did not require them to tend their yard.

Because it wasn't the Soviet Union, was my first thought, as a Norwegian. Do US municipalities really intervene that minutely in people's right to manage their private propety as they wish to?
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: JGP on October 18, 2016, 11:05:02 PM
The short answer is yes if enough residents complain to the authorities.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: DNAgenie on October 19, 2016, 05:01:55 PM
I would expect that the local authorities could give orders to the owners to clean up the yard if it was so poorly maintained that it became a public health hazard or a fire risk. That is certainly the case in Australia.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: TimM on October 26, 2016, 06:22:05 AM
And that is what happened.  People complained and the city ordered Manahan to clean up the property.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: HerrKaiser on January 02, 2017, 09:38:00 AM
They had an old car.  I always wondered why the city of Charlottesville did not require them to tend their yard.

Because it wasn't the Soviet Union, was my first thought, as a Norwegian. Do US municipalities really intervene that minutely in people's right to manage their private propety as they wish to?

The idea of a "free" nation may be misleading. Fact is, from small municipalities up to the federal government, there are millions of pages of regulations and rules that restrict individual's and group's "rights" to do whatever they want (or not do) with their owned property. From height of trees, to height of grass, to color of siding, to size of mailbox, etc etc etc, nearly every minute detail has a regulation. That's the work of the government bureaucracies whose main mission is to control how people live. Trump has promised to curb that onslaught of regulations and hopefully roll back many.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on January 13, 2017, 04:11:17 AM
They had an old car.  I always wondered why the city of Charlottesville did not require them to tend their yard.

Because it wasn't the Soviet Union, was my first thought, as a Norwegian. Do US municipalities really intervene that minutely in people's right to manage their private propety as they wish to?

The idea of a "free" nation may be misleading. Fact is, from small municipalities up to the federal government, there are millions of pages of regulations and rules that restrict individual's and group's "rights" to do whatever they want (or not do) with their owned property. From height of trees, to height of grass, to color of siding, to size of mailbox, etc etc etc, nearly every minute detail has a regulation. That's the work of the government bureaucracies whose main mission is to control how people live. Trump has promised to curb that onslaught of regulations and hopefully roll back many.

And of course there are "Homeowners Associations" as well.  They aren't the government, but they CAN fine you (though not every neighborhood has one).

Generally, the government doesn't step in unless your place belongs on that Hoarders show.  But a Homeowners Association can, in theory, fine you for leaving your Christmas lights up too long.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: JGP on January 22, 2017, 12:35:58 AM
They had an old car.  I always wondered why the city of Charlottesville did not require them to tend their yard.

Because it wasn't the Soviet Union, was my first thought, as a Norwegian. Do US municipalities really intervene that minutely in people's right to manage their private propety as they wish to?

The idea of a "free" nation may be misleading. Fact is, from small municipalities up to the federal government, there are millions of pages of regulations and rules that restrict individual's and group's "rights" to do whatever they want (or not do) with their owned property. From height of trees, to height of grass, to color of siding, to size of mailbox, etc etc etc, nearly every minute detail has a regulation. That's the work of the government bureaucracies whose main mission is to control how people live. Trump has promised to curb that onslaught of regulations and hopefully roll back many.

That's right Herr Kaiser.  How could I forget that Trump/Drumpf is gonna make America great again, really great, really, really great!; good grief! 
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: Lochlanach on January 25, 2017, 04:35:21 AM
This era of  'alternative facts' , 'fake news' , 'gaslighting' , etc .... just makes me think of Anna Anderson and her adherants.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: TimM on July 20, 2018, 02:56:16 PM
Yeah, imagine if this was happening now.

Anna would probably have her own Facebook page, where all her loyal ciphers could post their support of her rubbish claim to be Anastasia.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: The Test Card Girl on August 12, 2018, 04:39:44 AM
Yeah AA would have been sunk from Day One in the era of DNA testing.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: Sanochka on August 12, 2018, 12:20:15 PM
The saga of Anna Anderson has got to be one of the quirkiest chapters of the 20th century.  It's amazing how DNA testing put the claims to rest, and reduced what might have been an enduring mystery to a mere footnote of history.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: DNAgenie on August 12, 2018, 05:13:02 PM
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Yeah, imagine if this was happening now.

Anna would probably have her own Facebook page, where all her loyal ciphers could post their support of her rubbish claim to be Anastasia.

Yeah AA would have been sunk from Day One in the era of DNA testing.

I know of a Russian woman who claims her mother was Anastasia. She has been tested and has the wrong DNA, but she refuses to admit it, AND she has her own Facebook page!
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: Forum Admin on August 12, 2018, 05:56:07 PM
Some guy posted to the Facebook Romanov News group just recently that he was STILL pursuing Eugenia Smith's claim despite the DNA, and he refers to her as "Evgenia Smetisko"!
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: The Test Card Girl on August 12, 2018, 10:26:54 PM
Weren't there claimants for O & T that became nuns and were actually buried under the names of the Grand Duchesses?
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: GDSophie on August 13, 2018, 12:34:48 PM
No, that was Maria and Anastasia.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on August 13, 2018, 08:12:30 PM
Yeah AA would have been sunk from Day One in the era of DNA testing.

Plus, with how easy it is to spread info now, the fact that she didn't know so much about "her" own family's life would have been public knowledge very quickly...
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: The Test Card Girl on August 15, 2018, 07:02:38 AM
the fact that AA was several years older than AN would be more obvious in today's forensic photography, too.
Title: Re: THE ANNA ANDERSON HOUSE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Post by: TimM on August 15, 2018, 11:18:09 AM
Yeah, it would have been easier to debunk her claims if all that was happening now.