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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Tatiana Nicholaievna => Topic started by: Maria_Romanov_fan on January 24, 2005, 07:28:23 PM

Title: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on January 24, 2005, 07:28:23 PM
What's up with Tatiana!?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/Otmafan1/otjump.jpg)
:o ??? :o ???
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Abby on January 24, 2005, 07:45:48 PM
LOL, Hmmm.... Is she standing on her toes?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Georgiy on January 24, 2005, 07:51:23 PM
She's levitating!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on January 24, 2005, 08:29:49 PM
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LOL, Hmmm.... Is she standing on her toes?


Sorry Abby, I don't think so. The ground is leveled to Olga's feet and it would be to Tatiana's too... LOL
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Lanie on January 24, 2005, 09:50:06 PM
Funny shadows.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: James_Davidov on January 25, 2005, 02:12:41 AM
The photo is really dark, so its difficult to see.  Im guessing some how she has gotten herself into that position (whether it was meant to be a joke or not)..

She isn't standing on her toes, she's not wearing ballet shoes, and its pritty obvious... maybe there is a mound there, which here feet are leaning against ???
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: pinklady on January 25, 2005, 03:38:19 AM
The children enjoyed taking unusual photos - there are a few of Anastasia levitating!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: otmafan on January 25, 2005, 11:24:24 AM
Was this done on purpose?

(http://livadia.org/ana/1907-1912/94.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Olga on January 25, 2005, 11:29:47 AM
Probably. There are some other ones like this.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: cjred685 on January 25, 2005, 11:32:19 AM
Possibly it was double exposed?   I like the effect though gives him a ghostlike appearence.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Ortino on January 25, 2005, 05:11:23 PM
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Possibly it was double exposed?   I like the effect though gives him a ghostlike appearence.


Perhaps, although I'm no expert on photography. The guy's boots look pretty solid though. Either way, I think it's quite neat.  ;)

As for Tatiana, is it possible that something was suspending her in the air, a rope perhaps? She seems amused by what's going on in the picture, so I'd assume that she knows how she looks in it. The background is also very dark and obscure, so the effect is much greater.

Now that I look at it again, it almost looks like a hedge.....
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_sofia on January 26, 2005, 01:54:43 PM
is it me or does Anastasia have some kind of princess leia haircut in theat funny photo??
sops
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: cjred685 on January 26, 2005, 02:12:36 PM
I tend to agree with James_Davidov "maybe there is a mound there, which here feet are leaning against"  
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Laura Mabee on January 26, 2005, 02:16:02 PM
Woah! That's a funny pic of Tatiana. *plays twillight zone music* I do however, think Anastasia did that pose on purpose. She has so many pictures that are in funny positions or angles.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on January 26, 2005, 02:20:23 PM
That picture that Otmafan posted was creepy. It looks like the person leaning over Anastasia was a GHOST!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Abby on January 26, 2005, 04:13:03 PM
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is it me or does Anastasia have some kind of princess leia haircut in theat funny photo??
sops


Hahaha !!! I see it, too! Wow. Now we know where George Lucas got his inspiration for Princess Leia!!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on January 26, 2005, 08:16:08 PM
LOL, I bet G.L. first though of her name being "Leiastasia"
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Moneypenny on January 27, 2005, 09:23:43 AM
In regard to the first photo-- Tatiana has hooked the heels of her shoes in the bottom bar of a railing (I'm not sure if it is a garden fence railing, balcony railing...) and has thrown her weight forward so that her toes are pointed.  The bottom bar is high enough to keep her totally off of the ground.  You can see that she is holding the topmost bar with her right hand, but the rest of the railing is pretty much impossible to see in this photo.  I used to do this all the time as a child.   :)  
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Abby on January 27, 2005, 10:09:22 AM
I understand what you mean. It makes perfect sense! I just cannot see the railing in the photo because it's so dark!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on January 27, 2005, 08:55:47 PM
I've seen alot of these "trick photographs" coming from the Grand Duchesses. I think they were mostly inside jokes ment to just be a game. Whoever took thoes photographs must have been an excellent photographer.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 27, 2005, 09:06:11 PM
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Was this done on purpose?

(http://livadia.org/ana/1907-1912/94.jpg)


Of course! Anastsia liked to double expose the pics she took o make them look like there was a ghost hovering over her...i've seen some of the tsarina sitting in the window chair and she looks as if she is looking at threee directions at once. think of it as an early 20th century photoshop!  ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 27, 2005, 09:07:15 PM
I think that Tatiana is holding on to soemthing in that pic...she looks to free-expresioned to be standing on her toes, which is no easy task!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 27, 2005, 09:08:38 PM
Here is a pic i thought was funny! it looks like tatia is cared of the kittens!
lol

(http://img164.exs.cx/img164/2708/tm190814an.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: otmafan on January 28, 2005, 05:14:41 PM
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Here is a pic i thought was funny! it looks like tatia is cared of the kittens!
lol


I like that picture too.  :D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: otmafan on January 28, 2005, 05:15:44 PM
Here's Maria and Anastasia being ever so crazy.

(http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/ma1916_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: TatianaFan on January 28, 2005, 05:19:39 PM
lol. Anastasia certainly knows how to pose for pics. ;D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on January 28, 2005, 08:25:37 PM
She sure does. Looks like Tatiana had a mischievious smile in her "levatation" photo too.  ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 28, 2005, 08:45:24 PM
lol, yeah!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 28, 2005, 08:47:53 PM
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Here's Maria and Anastasia being ever so crazy.

(http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/ma1916_1.jpg)


You almost cant even reconzise Maria! her nose looks bigger tahn ususal! ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 28, 2005, 08:50:16 PM
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is it me or does Anastasia have some kind of princess leia haircut in theat funny photo??
sops


actually, i think she just has earmuffs on, because at the time asnastasia's hair looked not long enough to have that big of a bun on both sides, and Alix NEVER let the younger two put up there hair until they were at least 16. I'm suprised the age wasnt 18, but whatever!
Because isnt 18 considered an adult? ???
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 28, 2005, 08:51:23 PM
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What's up with Tatiana!?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/Otmafan1/otjump.jpg)
 :o ??? :o ???


is it just me or did Tatiana seem to smile more as a child? and i mean before the pressures of the war even began. ???
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on January 28, 2005, 09:18:35 PM
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is it just me or did Tatiana seem to smile more as a child? and i mean before the pressures of the war even began. ???


Well, sometimes Tatiana looks pretty angry!
(http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/otmaakitties.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 28, 2005, 09:50:02 PM
Yeah, so does Anastaisa! like in the pic of the whole family on the Standart, and she is pouting!  ::)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: otmafan on January 29, 2005, 07:51:46 AM
You're right.

(http://livadia.org/ana/1901-1906/34.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on January 29, 2005, 01:10:58 PM
A stormy day?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: otmafan on January 29, 2005, 01:14:49 PM
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A stormy day?


Must of been. They all look rather cranky.  :D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: bball33 on January 30, 2005, 01:56:05 PM
Yeah they probably wanted to do something and they couldn't
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 30, 2005, 07:32:11 PM
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Must of been. They all look rather cranky.  :D


yeah, Alix looks frustrated...perhaps they have been at a sitting for  a while...  
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on January 30, 2005, 08:33:11 PM
Is it me, or are they all focusing on the same thing?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Lanie on January 30, 2005, 08:34:48 PM
Probably the camera.  Remember, it wasn't "en vogue" to smile in photographs.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on January 30, 2005, 09:13:40 PM
yeah. and especially in earlier photos because everyone had bad teeth! lol ::)

But also, hthe people wanted to be seen as solemn charachters.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: DeAnochka on February 11, 2005, 11:03:16 PM
I actually heard that the grand duchesses had a gap between their two front teeth. This may have been another reason why they hardly ever flashed their pearly whites.

Here's one. You can't really see Anastasia's gap, but I have a feeling it's there!
(http://www.angelfire.com/ca6/evanglyn/09/swing-1908.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Lanie on February 11, 2005, 11:47:30 PM
Olga, Maria and Anastasia did...varying degrees of it.  I don't think Tatiana did, from photos I've seen she had wonderfully straight teeth (I'm jealous).
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on February 12, 2005, 02:40:55 PM
This picture is a perfect example of Olga's gap!you can vaguely see something going on there... i also thought there was one, but i wasn't sure until now This pic isn't as clear as one i've seen before so the gap isn't as easy to see.

(http://img202.exs.cx/img202/8974/longhair7qh.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on February 12, 2005, 02:46:39 PM
Here's a pic which, oddly enough, looks more easy to see the gap when it's black and white.

(http://img89.exs.cx/img89/7559/katiacolor191324pk.jpg)
You can also see this in Anastasia's album.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on February 12, 2005, 02:49:27 PM
And here is another, perhaps the best!
(i know the girl in the pic with Olga is named Rita, but who is she?)

(http://img172.exs.cx/img172/5162/olgarita5qv.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Ortino on February 12, 2005, 03:42:10 PM
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This picture is a perfect example of Olga's gap!you can vaguely see something going on there... i also thought there was one, but i wasn't sure until now This pic isn't as clear as one i've seen before so the gap isn't as easy to see.

(http://img202.exs.cx/img202/8974/longhair7qh.jpg)



Yes, I can see it. Was this taken in Olga/Tatiana's bedroom, or maybe Tobolsk? The striped panel behind Olga is a direct characteristic of their beds. If I am correct, I'm shocked, because I've never seen a picture of any of their beds in their rooms.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: DeAnochka on February 12, 2005, 04:06:42 PM
There are quite a few gaps going on in this photograph!

(http://www.naotmaa.net/tatiana/03.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: DeAnochka on February 12, 2005, 04:20:01 PM
I knew it! You can REALLY see Anastasia's gap in this copy!

(http://www.naotmaa.net/tatiana/06.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: bball33 on February 12, 2005, 04:50:58 PM
Oh yeah u really can see Anastasia's gap.  :D She still looks cute though. :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Lanie on February 12, 2005, 10:07:18 PM
Deshka - it was taken in 1917 while Olga was recovering from measles. :)  And her mouth is closed in that picture, no teeth showing.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: DeAnochka on February 12, 2005, 10:24:21 PM
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Deshka - it was taken in 1917 while Olga was recovering from measles. :)  And her mouth is closed in that picture, no teeth showing.


I think you meant to direct this post to moonlight_tsarina. . .

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This picture is a perfect example of Olga's gap!you can vaguely see something going on there... i also thought there was one, but i wasn't sure until now This pic isn't as clear as one i've seen before so the gap isn't as easy to see.

(http://img202.exs.cx/img202/8974/longhair7qh.jpg)


Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarai on February 13, 2005, 03:35:56 PM
There is some more info. on the Imperial Family's teeth on this thread:

http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=family;action=display;num=1078845785
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarai on February 13, 2005, 03:41:09 PM
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And here is another, perhaps the best!
(i know the girl in the pic with Olga is named Rita, but who is she?)


Rita was a lady-in-waiting to Alexandra who became Olga's good friend. There is a thread about her here:
http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=friends;action=display;num=1082241123
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on February 14, 2005, 09:52:14 PM
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There are quite a few gaps going on in this photograph!

(http://www.naotmaa.net/tatiana/03.jpg)


lol, you are right, but they were all young and still losing teeth so most likely that's why there are so many gaps!lol
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on February 14, 2005, 09:53:36 PM
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Deshka - it was taken in 1917 while Olga was recovering from measles. :)  And her mouth is closed in that picture, no teeth showing.


No I think her mouth is open a bit!
Sorry to contradict you :-X Lanie but it looks open!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Georgiy on February 14, 2005, 10:38:08 PM
Why the obsession with gaps in teeth? (BTW, mine are a little bit close together, but it has never bothered me,nor I presume, anyone else!)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Lanie on February 15, 2005, 12:54:00 AM
Probably since today people see straight teeth being, you know, the ideal, blah blah blah... which is why I have braces for a second time and am getting reconstructive jaw surgery!  :-/

Annie - here's a link to a larger version of that photo: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/LanieD/olgameasles.jpg
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: DeAnochka on February 15, 2005, 09:42:41 PM
I  personally love the gaps in their teeth. It gives them so much more character. We barely see them smile in photographs, no wonder we are so fascinated. I adore the gaps! It's one of those little idiosyncrasies that make them unique yet united because all the children shared the same genetic trait. I think it's fabulous.  :D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 03, 2005, 04:19:28 PM
is he taking her pulse?why?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/Arianwen430/00053004.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: RealAnastasia on July 03, 2005, 05:27:01 PM
I think he is watching her little bracelet or something like that...

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on July 03, 2005, 09:16:28 PM
It does look like he's taking Tatiana's pulse. lol. But I too think he's just looking at something on her wrist. If he was going to show Tatiana something cool about one's pulse, I think Olga and Anastasia would have probably been paying attention, too. But they're looking off somewhere else. Olga looks bored, and Anastasia is looking at the camera.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 04, 2005, 09:48:25 AM
o thank u so much. lolz i just really looked like he was taking her pulse, i thought it was after she was sick or somthing lolz. olga does look very board! :P i wonder wat she was thinking, or looking at.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: karl on July 04, 2005, 10:16:12 AM
i saw this picture as well and others of the officers being with the grand duchesses. these men were very often seen on photographs  - who are they? are the names known? are these far aristocratic relatives doing their job on standart?

karl

what i am wondering: did the elder of the four grand duchesses have close male friends?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Forum Admin on July 04, 2005, 10:36:22 AM
The fellow on the left with the goatee is Voronov.  The man looking down is Sabline. These two officers of the Standart were the closest friends to the IF on board.  It appears as if he is looking at a ring on her finger.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: karl on July 05, 2005, 05:28:24 AM
thanks f.a. for your reply. on the pictures it always looks as if voronov is very closely related to the family. what happened to these officers? did they try to free the family - or were they also imprisoned and murdered?

karl
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 05, 2005, 08:03:34 AM
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thanks f.a. for your reply. on the pictures it always looks as if voronov is very closely related to the family. what happened to these officers? did they try to free the family - or were they also imprisoned and murdered?

karl
 


i would think that they would fled, or b captured and killed. thank u FA for identifying the sailors
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: karl on July 05, 2005, 08:33:31 AM
using the "search" button and the name of the officer i found a lot of info about this man.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 05, 2005, 05:28:51 PM
really? i'm going to look too. :D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 07, 2005, 01:26:06 AM
I doubt that the sailor is looking at a ring or bracelet, if he was then why are his two fingers on her wridt? ???

~Anastacia~
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 07, 2005, 12:34:38 PM
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I doubt that the sailor is looking at a ring or bracelet, if he was then why are his two fingers on her wridt? ???

~Anastacia~


ya i don't see any jewelry on. do you think hes sick?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 07, 2005, 01:15:25 PM
I don't think anything was wrong with her, I mean he could just be taking her pulse for fun :-/
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Lanie on July 07, 2005, 01:48:36 PM
Doesn't look like he's taking her pulse because the way to do it on one's wrist is putting two forefingers on the BACK of your wrist, not the side like he's doing to Tatiana.  He could be looking or fiddling with some bracelet she's wearing.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: hikaru on July 07, 2005, 03:16:03 PM
I think that he is fixing her watches.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 07, 2005, 03:43:32 PM
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Doesn't look like he's taking her pulse because the way to do it on one's wrist is putting two forefingers on the BACK of your wrist, not the side like he's doing to Tatiana.  He could be looking or fiddling with some bracelet she's wearing.


if you look closly lanie is correct. hes touching the side of her wrist. and i don't see any jewelry on her. i really wonder whats happening...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on July 07, 2005, 07:12:09 PM
I think that that picture is going to remain a mystery for a while, lol ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: divine_grace on July 07, 2005, 11:05:25 PM
Maybe he was about to play a trick on her, or a prank maybe?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Ortino on July 07, 2005, 11:53:27 PM
It is possible that it looks like his fingers are on the side because of the size of her wrist. It is most likely that she had a very thin wrist, which means that his large fingers would cover the entire area. Or perhaps it is the angle at which the picture was shot.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Speedycat on July 08, 2005, 10:20:09 AM
Looks to me like he is trying to clasp a bracelet on her wrist.  From the angle the photo is shot, it appears he has something stretched out between his two hands and it is out of view behind Tatiana's hand.....a bracelet or watch of some sort.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 08, 2005, 05:51:28 PM
there could be alot of possiblity's but i don't see any waches, or anything on her wrist. but he could be puting any thing on.  ??? :P why is this so hard. LOL
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Tasha_R on July 08, 2005, 06:08:15 PM
Personally, I think the first theory was the correct one.  Looks like he's taking her pulse, most probably for fun.  Just imagine a conversation going something like this:

"Sometimes traveling makes me nervous," Tatiana stated.

"Oh, really?" commented the sailor beside her.  "Here... let me see if you are nervous now."  He gently takes her hand in his and places something in it.  "Squeeze this and we'll see."  He secretly relishes this opportunity to gently touch the Grand Duchess who he is sworn to protect.

"Hm... " he continues thoughtfully.  "Your pulse does appear to be a bit rapid.  Perhaps it is the sea... or, perhaps it is something else?"  His brow is raised as he looks into her beautiful eyes, caught within their depths.  The Grand Duchess quickly looks away with a shy smile, but not before an audible sigh escapes her lips...

I know, pure fiction, but fun to think!

Sincerely,
Tasha
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: RealAnastasia on July 08, 2005, 06:38:42 PM
How lovely, Tasha!  :D I liked your little sweet fiction about Tatiana and the handsome officer...Oh...(Sigh  ;) ). And now, for us to enjoy: what was Olga and Anastasia thinking while her sister was falling slowly in love? Just watch their faces...Funny!  ;D

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Tasha_R on July 08, 2005, 06:52:31 PM
Thank you!

Yours,
Tasha
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 09, 2005, 09:31:32 AM
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Personally, I think the first theory was the correct one.  Looks like he's taking her pulse, most probably for fun.  Just imagine a conversation going something like this:

"Sometimes traveling makes me nervous," Tatiana stated.

"Oh, really?" commented the sailor beside her.  "Here... let me see if you are nervous now."  He gently takes her hand in his and places something in it.  "Squeeze this and we'll see."  He secretly relishes this opportunity to gently touch the Grand Duchess who he is sworn to protect.

"Hm... " he continues thoughtfully.  "Your pulse does appear to be a bit rapid.  Perhaps it is the sea... or, perhaps it is something else?"  His brow is raised as he looks into her beautiful eyes, caught within their depths.  The Grand Duchess quickly looks away with a shy smile, but not before an audible sigh escapes her lips...

I know, pure fiction, but fun to think!

Sincerely,
Tasha


that was great!!! your a great writer!!! its so cute... "but not before a audible sigh escapes her lips..." aww love... amore amore :-*
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 09, 2005, 04:10:22 PM
cute... ;D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Tasha_R on July 09, 2005, 08:15:09 PM
Ah, thank you, thank you (humbly taking a bow)  ;)

Every picture has a story, don't you think?

Best regards,
Tasha
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 09, 2005, 09:56:31 PM
I completely agree. (That is, if one has the imagination!)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 10, 2005, 05:38:03 PM
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Ah, thank you, thank you (humbly taking a bow)  ;)

Every picture has a story, don't you think?

Best regards,
Tasha


yes i some times picture a little story that goes into the picture. but i always think its incorrect lolz.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Michelle on July 10, 2005, 05:41:55 PM
Tasha, can you continue the story? ;D  Or how about I add something to it:

The sweet and innocent flirting of her sister Tatiana escaped the attention of the Grand Duchess Olga.  How she wished Paul Voronov, the young officer sitting next to her with the peculiar looking nose, would say something to her.  Until he did, Olga decided, she would just act as nonchalant as possible gazing at the clouds.  

"I hope this awkward moment doesn't last too long," Olga thought.
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Post by: Tasha_R on July 10, 2005, 06:46:32 PM
Wonderful!  Oh, we could make a good pair  :D

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Post by: Tasha_R on July 10, 2005, 06:49:29 PM
Just at that moment, young Anastasia rounded the corner, catching her sisters in the midst of their innocent flirtations.  "Bah!" she rolled her eyes thinking to herself that she would *never* be one to fall under the spell of an officer.  "You would think they would have more sense than that," she thought quietly.  "Don't they know that they need to fall in love with at least a prince?!"
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 10, 2005, 08:33:10 PM
you gize are great... but this is kind of off topic. but i still wonder what he is doing. lolz anastasia "bah!" lolz.
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Post by: Tasha_R on July 11, 2005, 08:18:24 AM
Good point.  Sorry... got carried away there a bit!
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Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 11, 2005, 09:26:58 AM
no no you gize are great. its just that...
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Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 14, 2005, 10:52:09 AM
i found this picture! it looks like anastasia took tatiana's special moment away!  ;D tataiana looks very angry (just a little)

http://highway55.library.yale.edu/ROMANOVIMG/size4/D0005/00054005.jpg
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Post by: Tasha_R on July 14, 2005, 09:48:53 PM
LOL!  And she looks rather pleased about it, too, doesn't she?

Tasha
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Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 15, 2005, 12:10:49 PM
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LOL!  And she looks rather pleased about it, too, doesn't she?

Tasha


i agree! she looks way to happy about her self right there! :D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 18, 2005, 10:19:03 PM
I can't see the first picture that started this thread.  >:( Does anyone else have it?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Duchess_Scarlett on August 01, 2005, 05:33:07 PM
I am wondering if any of you have a better quality of this picture?

(http://www.etnshops.com/romanovphotoarchive/listings/23.jpg)
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Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 01, 2005, 06:28:08 PM
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/clockworkgirl21/tanyacossack.jpg)
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Post by: Margarita Markovna on August 01, 2005, 07:22:25 PM
Look at how tiny her waist is. Give her a sandwich.
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Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 02, 2005, 12:02:14 AM
I know! lol. She was so skinny.
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Post by: DeAnochka on August 02, 2005, 01:31:36 AM
Does anyone know when this photo was taken? I've never seen it before.
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Post by: Olga_Anna on August 02, 2005, 08:51:05 AM
1915-1916? :-/ She looks to be 18 or 19. I really don't know.
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Post by: Lanie on August 02, 2005, 06:53:04 PM
I think 1916 during their last trip to the Crimea when they all went to visit hospitals.
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Post by: Duchess_Scarlett on August 03, 2005, 12:52:09 AM
Thank you very much clockworkgirl21!

Scarlett
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 04, 2005, 10:43:19 AM
thanks for posting i have never seen that picture before. who is that mean standing next to her? is it botkin?
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Post by: grandduchess_sofia on August 04, 2005, 11:10:14 AM
Lanie, i thought they went to the crimea in 1915? they could have done both i suppose! ;D
sopxx
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Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 04, 2005, 01:32:17 PM
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Lanie, i thought they went to the crimea in 1915? they could have done both i suppose! ;D
sopxx


i suppose!  ;) all i know it is taken in lividia.
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Post by: Lanie on August 04, 2005, 03:19:47 PM
May 1916 they went down there.  They didn't visit Livadia or anything; they just visited churches, hospitals, etc.  Stayed pretty much near Yalta AFAIK.
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Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 04, 2005, 04:06:58 PM
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May 1916 they went down there.  They didn't visit Livadia or anything; they just visited churches, hospitals, etc.  Stayed pretty much near Yalta AFAIK.


o thank you lanie! is that botkin next to her?
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Post by: Olga_Anna on August 04, 2005, 04:34:09 PM
I don't think so. I don't think he had a full bald head.
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Post by: Lanie on August 04, 2005, 04:35:47 PM
Looks like just some random Cossack escort-type. :)
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Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 04, 2005, 09:19:11 PM
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Looks like just some random Cossack escort-type. :)


right thanks lanie! i wasn't quite shure. becuse i thought that he had a beard? does he?
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Post by: RussiaSunbeam1918 on August 04, 2005, 11:18:25 PM
I think Botkin had little slasses, and in my oppinion, that man has a rounder smaller face.

Wow, she is REALLY skinny in that picture, you are right, it almost looks unhealthy, but then, my aunt is like that and see is as right as rain so...
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Post by: Baby Tsarevich on August 05, 2005, 06:40:55 PM
Here are some pics of Botkin for you guys:

(http://www.lawbuzz.com/tyranny/anastasia/images/botkin.jpg)

Here Botkin is in the left hand uper corner!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/Praskoviya/ris09exp.jpg

~Anastacia~
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Post by: David_Pritchard on August 05, 2005, 08:39:18 PM
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Looks like just some random Cossack escort-type. :)



Do you really think that the Emperor and Empress would allow "some random Cossack escort type" to be with a Grand Duchess of Russia? The man happens to be an officer, look at the shoulder boards.

The man has shaved his head, look at the shadow on his head. It is common for a soldier to shave his hair in time of war as it requires no care and does not present a home for parasites. Dr. Botkin did not belong to a Cossack regiment, he was also much older than the officer in the picture.

David
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Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 06, 2005, 02:30:12 PM
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Do you really think that the Emperor and Empress would allow "some random Cossack escort type" to be with a Grand Duchess of Russia? The man happens to be an officer, look at the shoulder boards.

The man has shaved his head, look at the shadow on his head. It is common for a soldier to shave his hair in time of war as it requires no care and does not present a home for parasites. Dr. Botkin did not belong to a Cossack regiment, he was also much older than the officer in the picture.

David


i agree. thank you anya for that picture.

if my family were royalty! that i would want them to cheek out this solder who is escorting me.
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Post by: Nastya on October 23, 2005, 10:07:03 PM
hes looking at the time on tatia's watch. if you look at olgas wrist you can see shes wearing a watch, and tatiana and olga always wore the same things
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Post by: grandduchess_42 on October 25, 2005, 05:01:23 PM
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hes looking at the time on tatia's watch. if you look at olgas wrist you can see shes wearing a watch, and tatiana and olga always wore the same things


not nessesarily. olga and tatiana wore a few things that were the same. i don't think she is wearing a watch though.
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Post by: Alixz on October 25, 2005, 06:15:04 PM
What a lovely story you have made up!

I don't see anything on her wrist either.

I hope he was giving her a fantasy to sleep on or to keep her warm in Siberia many years later.

You both should keep this story going.  Start another thread so as to keep on topic?

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Post by: ferngully on October 26, 2005, 08:51:53 AM
start a story on the having fun board ;D
selina                    xxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarastasia on November 20, 2005, 03:03:36 AM
Heya
I found this photo on Livadia.org
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/SaraFeodorovna/MOT1916.jpg)
Who are they mourning for? Why isn't Anastasia in the photo?
I had to think for a while, but OTM's maturatiy and hair suggests that it would have been 1916/1917, and of course Rasputin died then!! But aren't their dresses a bit light weight for mid-winter??

What do you think??

Sarastasia
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Post by: stacey on November 20, 2005, 04:13:38 AM
I'm not certain that they were in formal mourning at that time. I've seen that photo before and if I remember correctly (never a sure thing!) each girl was dressed in the uniform of the branch of Imperial Service of which she was a kind of Honorary Commander. That might explain why Anastasia is not pictured, since she might have been considered too young for that kind of honor. Somebody do correct me if I'm wrong--but I do think these were some kind of military uniforms.
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Post by: PssMarieAmelie on November 20, 2005, 04:38:41 AM
They were in mourning for "KR"--Grand Duke Konstantine Konstantinovich(eldest son of Aleksandra Iosifovna, brother of Queen Olga of Greece) in about 1916 I think. Anastasia was, I guess, too young to attend.
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Post by: stacey on November 20, 2005, 04:50:55 AM
 :-[ Okay--I stand corrected! Back to the history books!
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Post by: PssMarieAmelie on November 20, 2005, 04:52:17 AM
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:-[ Okay--I stand corrected! Back to the history books!



That's quite alright--we all make mistakes. Don't worry about it. ;)
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Post by: Sarastasia on November 20, 2005, 06:28:01 AM
Thank you guys so much for contributing!!!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: matushka on November 20, 2005, 08:11:54 AM
it was in summer 1915.
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Post by: Russian_Duchess_#5 on November 20, 2005, 05:19:17 PM
Im sure I remember reading that they were wearing uniforms and not mourning, but of course, it may be unaccurate!! ;)

Sofi ;D
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Post by: Teddy on November 21, 2005, 11:24:28 AM
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They were in mourning for "KR"--Grand Duke Konstantine Konstantinovich(eldest son of Aleksandra Iosifovna, brother of Queen Olga of Greece) in about 1916 I think. Anastasia was, I guess, too young to attend.


For what I know Anastasia did attend the funeral of KR.
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Post by: Russian_Duchess_#5 on November 21, 2005, 11:31:07 AM
Where did you get that?

Sofi :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Teddy on November 21, 2005, 11:34:15 AM
Michael and Natasja, Love, power and tragedy bij the Crawfords.

In a letter it stays that everyone attended except Michael. So with those words you can surpose that also Anastasia with 14 years was there.

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Post by: matushka on November 22, 2005, 03:30:02 AM
No, Anastasia was not at the funerals. See the Nicolas`s diary: "at 10.30 went to the Petropavlovsk`fortress with Ella, Olga, Tatiana and Maria".
The funerals was the 8 of June 1915. KR died the 2 of june
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: imperial angel on November 22, 2005, 09:36:24 AM
So that is the reason Anastasia wasn't in the photo in mournnig dress-she wasn't there. She was young, of course, and her general demeanor didn't really suit a funeral of a older relative. She had so much life about her.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on November 22, 2005, 10:24:26 AM
What was the cause of KR's death? And how old was he?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: matushka on November 22, 2005, 10:57:17 AM
About sixty. I will check my documents today. I only remember he was totally chocked by the death of his son and his daughter Tatiana`s husband.
I would like to ask is there any other shots of this day, not only of OTM, but of the entire family, with Ella for example?
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Post by: matushka on November 22, 2005, 11:23:59 AM
He was 57 years old when he died. He was born in 1858.
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Post by: reashka on November 24, 2005, 11:54:00 AM
At first I, thought why Anastasia wasn't on the photo is because she was the one taking the picture. But now, all is clear.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on January 05, 2006, 02:23:43 AM
Hello!

Does anybody happens to have or have seen somewhere pictures of Tatiana and Olga in their classroom when they were small? (I mean, before 1910)

Maybe I've had, but I can't remember!

Thanks a lot in advance

(And excuse any mistakes, for English isn't my first language) ;)

Sophia S.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 05, 2006, 12:09:26 PM
sorry no i havn't had a idea of what this picture look like. i havn't even seen it.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on January 05, 2006, 08:14:15 PM
I'm not looking for a particular picture! I just want to know if any of them exist, because I've known the Romanov kids for years, and I've never found any photo of small Olga and Tatiana studying.

But thanks for your answer! :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Olga_Anna on January 05, 2006, 08:23:58 PM
I have one of Olga in a classroom around 1910, but she wasn't small she was around 15. And I have one of Tatiana but it was taken in 1912. Those are the only ones I know of. I'll post them if you like.
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Post by: RealAnastasia on January 05, 2006, 10:41:13 PM
I know the one with Olga...Was she with Gilliard? But I don't know the one of Tatiana....Please post it!

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 06, 2006, 07:17:22 AM
i have one of Tatiana and olga on the terrace with gillard...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Katia on January 06, 2006, 08:25:18 AM
One of Tatiana in classroom, not very young though...

http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/tatianastudying1.jpg

Katia
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Katia on January 06, 2006, 08:28:07 AM
And the photo is taken in Livadia I think, not in their Alexander Palace classroom...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Olga_Anna on January 06, 2006, 06:09:36 PM
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One of Tatiana in classroom, not very young though...

http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/tatianastudying1.jpg

Katia

Yup, that's the one of Tatiana. Here's the one of Olga:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/Olga_Anne/OlgaGilliard.jpg
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 06, 2006, 06:15:56 PM
Sophia_Skymind, do you know what palace that Tatiana was in?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on January 07, 2006, 01:50:56 AM
Hello!

Hum... Let's clarify things a little. I know about all the pictures everybody linked on this post, but thanks anyway. :)

No, I'm really looking for pictures of Olga and Tatiana when they were small. Which means for me, when they were 10 or younger.

I really, really don't know in which palace they would have been, for I simply don't know if any photo like this exists. Maybe the Empress simply didn't photographed her kids when they were studying. I don't know. I was just wondering if anybody knew.

Here are the "classroom" photos I already know about:
1) Olga in the Alexander palace classroom with Gilliard, I'd say around 1910-1911.
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1000793&iid=1000793&srchtype=

2) Maria in the same classroom, about the same time
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1000792&iid=1000792&srchtype=

3) Olga and Tatiana on a Livadia's balcony with Gilliard, between 1911-1915
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1000151&iid=1000151&srchtype=

4) The girls drawing in Livadia, around 1911 (not sure for the date)

Tatiana:
http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/tatianastudying1.jpg
Maria:
http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/lishcolor1912_1.jpg
Anastasia:
http://www.livadia.org/ana/1907-1912/52.jpg
Anastasia again:
http://www.glintofgold.org/romanovs/pics/adraw1.jpg

There. And I know a photo of Tatiana and Gilliard exists, but I don't have the link. She's all grown-up, with her hair up and a white gown, and he's reading something over her shoulder.

Well, that's all for now. Maybe it'll help :P
Bye!
And thanks for answering, really!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on January 07, 2006, 02:06:27 AM
Hi!

I was looking for photos of the Romanov girls for another topic when I found those two very interesting photos.

Look closely:
Here is the first, and everything looks quite normal.
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1001545&iid=1001545&srchtype=

We can see friends and people of the Romanov suite dancing or singing, I don't know. I think the partly hidden girl is Olga.

But what are they doing here???
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1001548&iid=1001548&srchtype=

I recongnize Anna Viroubova, officers whose jobs were to watch on the children during cruises on the Standard, and a Romanov grand duchess. Is she Tatiana or Olga? (I think it's Tatiana)

And what is she doing?! It looks like a game!

I found those photos on the Yale's collection. Those are pictures taken by the Romanov themselves when they were in holidays with their Standard, around 1908 I think, probably in Finland, but I can be wrong with the date and location, of course. ;D
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Post by: Fay on January 07, 2006, 08:08:32 AM
I think it is rather impossible to state which girl is it. And the point of this game is probably that the people in the circle must not allow the girl to get into it. I hope you know what I mean ;D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: matushka on January 07, 2006, 05:55:07 PM
Tatiana and P. V. Petrov in the Tsarskoe's classroom.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/TsarskoeTatianaetPetrov.jpg
I think it is 1912, as for the Olga with Gilliard and the Maria alone ones (it must be a serie).
The Livadia's picture of ON and TN with Gilliard (and the similar with MN and AN) are also from 1912.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Margarita Markovna on January 07, 2006, 06:03:11 PM
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3) Olga and Tatiana on a Livadia's balcony with Gilliard, between 1911-1915
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid= 1000151&iid=1000151&srchtype=


Are you sure this is between 1911 and 1915? It can only be between 1911 and 1913, because Tatiana's hair is down in a ponytail. After she was sixteen she would not have worn it like this. :)

Edit: Olga's hair is down too, has to be before November 1911.  
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 07, 2006, 06:40:31 PM
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Tatiana and P. V. Petrov in the Tsarskoe's classroom.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/TsarskoeTatianaetPetrov.jpg
I think it is 1912, as for the Olga with Gilliard and the Maria alone ones (it must be a serie).
The Livadia's picture of ON and TN with Gilliard (and the similar with MN and AN) are also from 1912.


:o WHOA i have never seen this picture before thank you! thats probly the one that SS was looking for thatnks again!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Lanie on January 07, 2006, 07:23:47 PM
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There. And I know a photo of Tatiana and Gilliard exists, but I don't have the link. She's all grown-up, with her hair up and a white gown, and he's reading something over her shoulder.


That photo is of Olga and Gilliard, not Tatiana and Gilliard.

As far as I know there are no photos that I've seen of the girls as children in their classrooms.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: julia.montague on January 08, 2006, 05:49:12 AM
Does somebody have this picture of Maria, not coloured?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: matushka on January 08, 2006, 09:46:10 AM
Here is Anastasia in the classroom, from the same serie as her sisters (first part of 1912, IMO). Helene just posted it in the Anastasia's section, I hope she don't mind I repeat her post here?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/TsarskoeclasseAN.jpg
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: matushka on January 08, 2006, 09:48:56 AM
I add also the picture of Maria and Anastasia with Gilliard in Livadia
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/LivadiaANGilliardMN1912.jpg
I thought it is 1912, but someone of you think Olga has hear down on the similar shot with TN, so 1911? Not sure.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: matushka on January 08, 2006, 09:53:21 AM
A last one :)
Maria drawing, black and white
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/LivadiadessinMN.jpg
I do not remember whom I took it, sorry.
A third one of Anastasia
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/LivadiadessinANmontrant.jpg
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: matushka on January 08, 2006, 09:59:30 AM
Are these drawing picture of 1911 or 1912?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 08, 2006, 11:52:07 AM
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I add also the picture of Maria and Anastasia with Gilliard in Livadia
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/LivadiaANGilliardMN1912.jpg
I thought it is 1912, but someone of you think Olga has hear down on the similar shot with TN, so 1911? Not sure.


i have never seen theese either! thanks alot :) where did you find theese?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on January 09, 2006, 11:37:50 PM
Hello!

Hey, thanks for the picture of Anastasia in the classroom. I knew it must have existed somewhere, but I had never seen it. Don't you think she looked kind of sad being in a classroom? I've read somewhere that she didn't enjoy school very much... ;D

You know, for the dates I posted with the photos. Maybe I'm wrong. Most of the time, I just deduce what year the pictures must have been taken by the way the children look on it.
So I know if something was in 1906 or in 1910, but between 1911 and 1912, I usually can't tell.

One more thing: we know that when one of the girl turned 16, she kept her hair up. Do you think they did it both in private and in public? I mean, maybe it was more confortable to wear it in pony-tails sometimes while in holidays, or a thing like that...

I really don't know, it's just an idea, but can we always use the girls' hair to date a photo?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on January 09, 2006, 11:40:34 PM
Well... I think so... but maybe we'll never know. They sure looked to have fun, thought!

But thanks anyway ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Lanie on January 10, 2006, 12:02:39 AM
We can judge the hairstyles and determine what year since you ALWAYS wore your hair up unless you were sick/sleeping/whatever (and then it was usually braided; Olga seemed to braiid her hair, there's a picture of her in bed after the measles with her hair in two braids).

1911 vs 1912 isn't hard to discern since in 1912 the girls all had rather poofy hairstyles and only Olga had her hair up!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 10, 2006, 07:12:18 AM
ah yes lanie :) i think i have that one

isn't there one of anna V. too?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Tsarina_Liz on January 11, 2006, 02:25:00 PM
It looks like it's Russian version of "Red Rover"
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: matushka on January 11, 2006, 04:09:22 PM
Yes, Lanie, that is clear, but as I have not picture of Olga from the Livadia's "drawing" serie of shots, I can't find the answer! Do you have it?! Thanks!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: hikaru on January 11, 2006, 05:11:49 PM
They are playing khorovod (round dance) game.
They are singing, by dancing slowly (just  keep walking roundly) : "kak na .......'s imeniny ispekli my karavay, vot takoy shiriny vot takoy vyshiny. Karavay, Karavay kogo khocheshy vybiray."
Which means  : " for the birthday of ( the name of a person who is in the center of the circle) , we made a big round bread of su----ch height , of su------ch width.
Round bread ( i.e. a person in the center of the circle), Round bread , please choose anybody you want (or love).
( after this word a person have to choose another person from the circle. After this they must change their places and now a chosen person must stand in the center. If somebody is chosen many times i.e. that this person is the hero of the day.

It is a very old game . It came from pagan times.
We did , we do it and we will do it
forever and ever and ever.
This is a summer game.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: hikaru on January 11, 2006, 05:12:34 PM
Pls explain what is Red Rover is?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Olga_Anna on January 11, 2006, 05:24:01 PM
Red Rover is when two lines of people stand opposite of each other. They hold hands and one team calls over to the other team " Red Rover, Red Rover send ? (some person from the other team) right over!" The person they chose from the other team comes running over. The point is for that person to run in between two peoples hands on the other team to try and break them apart. If the person is successful in doing that then they go back to their team. If not then they join the opposite team. The winner is the team with the most people.

Hope this helps.  :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: hikaru on January 11, 2006, 05:33:01 PM
we have the same game.
The name is "kazaki-razboyniki" - i.e. "cossacks-robbers"
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: hikaru on January 11, 2006, 05:38:07 PM
I might add that they  ( on the photo) are  saying
" of su---ch width" ( when we say of su--ch width we must show how fat is the bread, when we say of suuu-ch height, we must show how tall is the bread).
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Tsarina_Liz on January 11, 2006, 06:18:08 PM
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we have the same game.
The name is "kazaki-razboyniki" - i.e. "cossacks-robbers"



It's only the best playground game ever!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: hikaru on January 11, 2006, 06:23:28 PM
Yes , we played it every day when I was a child and spent my summer hollidays in the dacha near Petersburg and in the dacha at Black Sea.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Margarita Markovna on January 11, 2006, 06:29:10 PM
Tsarina_Liz-
Agreed. ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 13, 2006, 04:30:13 PM
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Yes, Lanie, that is clear, but as I have not picture of Olga from the Livadia's "drawing" serie of shots, I can't find the answer! Do you have it?! Thanks!


i wish to see this one too.... i know i have seen it at some point.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 28, 2006, 05:39:12 PM
ZO posted this picture on the Having Fun board. and Tatiana colored it. did theese come from her mind or where they from life?

Here they are. (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vontatjana24gl.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Olga_Anna on January 28, 2006, 06:22:06 PM
I remember seeing that pic and reading in Anastaisa's Album, that OTMA drew pictures of their mother in her court dresses. I believe it's Alix in a court dress.  :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 28, 2006, 06:37:23 PM
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I remember seeing that pic and reading in Anastaisa's Album, that OTMA drew pictures of their mother in her court dresses. I believe it's Alix in a court dress.  :)


ah thanks... were pictures taken of when she was in them?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on January 29, 2006, 06:59:59 AM
I scanned it from Anastasiaīs Album, and i think she has draw it from Photos of Alexandra. The middle one seems to be from this

(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8986/oaf1791lj.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf1791lj.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: LayLay on January 29, 2006, 04:48:25 PM
Nice pics, In my opinion she colored pretty good.  :-/
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 29, 2006, 05:33:14 PM
me too. they were all great artists.

the last one is there a real dress of that?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 12, 2006, 10:06:55 AM
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start a story on the having fun board ;D
selina                    xxxxxxxxx


i agree :D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Mashka_Angel on March 07, 2006, 11:59:00 PM
I think this might be a picture of Tatiana in the classroom:

(http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/tatianastudying1.jpg)

I think this is in the classroom. Maria and Anastasia:
(http://www.livadia.org/ana/1907-1912/91.jpg)

Olga in the classroom with P. Gilliard:

(http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/olgazhillie.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on March 08, 2006, 08:14:51 AM
Welcome to the forum, Mashka Angel!

The first and last photos you posted above were taken in Livadia -- the top one during a drawing lesson, and the bottom one in the classroom itself. The one in the middle is from the Tsar's study on board the Standart.
:)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Mashka_Angel on March 08, 2006, 04:59:00 PM
Thanks, Sarushka!!! And thanks for telling me about the photos! :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on March 08, 2006, 06:11:36 PM
there aren't many of the pictures in the class room.

is there any of alexei?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on March 12, 2006, 08:31:17 PM
Yes, there are some. I promise I'll find them, but I can't now, because I have school tomorrow  >:(.

I'll send them later.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on March 13, 2006, 10:17:42 AM
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Yes, there are some. I promise I'll find them, but I can't now, because I have school tomorrow  >:(.

I'll send them later.


there are a few of alexei that i have... would you like them?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on March 27, 2006, 07:37:45 PM
Hi!

Yes, that would be nice. You could maybe send the ones you have, and I'll send mines. I'm really sorry, I can't now. To busy with school right now, but later this week, probably.  :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on March 27, 2006, 10:37:04 PM
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Yes, there are some. I promise I'll find them, but I can't now, because I have school tomorrow  >:(.

I'll send them later.
Please do post them when you have time! I've only ever seen a watercolor of Aleksei's classrooom...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on March 28, 2006, 08:49:10 AM
I found some this morning in Tucker-ragazzo's photobucket album!

Don't know where these were taken -- maybe Livadia or Peterhof, judging by the color-scheme?
(http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/830/10008645it.th.jpg) (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10008645it.jpg) (http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/7255/1912015sw9kk.th.jpg) (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1912015sw9kk.jpg)

I think these are at the AP, but I'm not certain:
(http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/7893/alexeoandtutorpetrov0hb.th.jpg) (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alexeoandtutorpetrov0hb.jpg) (http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/5836/romanov572lj.th.gif) (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=romanov572lj.gif)

Here's a watercolor of Aleksei's classroom at the AP:
(http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1824/10033922an.th.jpg) (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10033922an.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on April 03, 2006, 01:17:33 AM
Yes, I will. Don't worry, I didn't forgot. It's just that I'm sooooo busy since Christmas. This end-of-term rush is never going to end!!!  :-/

But thanks for yours, Sarushka. They're great.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on April 22, 2006, 03:28:51 PM
An update: only 2 of those imgages I posted are from the AP, and only 1 is Aleksei's classroom!

This is the AP classroom:
(http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1824/10033922an.th.jpg) (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10033922an.jpg)

This the AP, but it's the playroom:
(http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/5836/romanov572lj.th.gif) (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=romanov572lj.gif)

The other 3 photos I posted were taken in Livadia.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: HRHPrincessCarrie on May 03, 2006, 05:45:32 PM
i know that i have seen one with olga and tatiana on a balcony with i think m. gilliard but i don't remember where i saw it
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: imperial angel on May 04, 2006, 09:40:03 AM
That is a pretty well known photo; perhaps you saw it in Nicholas and Alexandra?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: imperial angel on May 04, 2006, 09:40:15 AM
That is a pretty well known photo; perhaps you saw it in Nicholas and Alexandra?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 06, 2006, 11:45:10 PM
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i know that i have seen one with olga and tatiana on a balcony with i think m. gilliard but i don't remember where i saw it


THis picture shows Gilliard teaching to Olga and Tatiana in Livadia. I saw it for the first time at "Nicholas and Alexandra" video, but I'm sure is posted somewhere in this AP Forums too...

RealAnastasia
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on May 07, 2006, 12:00:58 AM
Here you go:
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3148/gilliardbigpair3ss.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gilliardbigpair3ss.jpg)

And the Little Pair, too, for good measure:
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1452/7154b19133lh.th.jpg) (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7154b19133lh.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on May 07, 2006, 07:57:19 PM
thank you for the pictures of alexei.

isn't there one of alexei eating or studying with his father? hes sitting on a chair arm. i'm not sure if hes eating or studying.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sophia_Skymind on May 10, 2006, 10:12:31 PM
There's also one of Alexei and his mother, sitting by a table. I can't remember weither ther are playing a game or drinking tea, but Alexei is wearing a night robe, or something like that. It comes from Yale.

Yes, there's one of Alexei and his father: they are playing chess.

And no, I didn't forgot; I'll post the pics I know soon...when my PC will stop having such annoying problems like shutting down every two minutes...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on November 10, 2006, 05:22:48 PM
oh yay!
i can't wait for you to post them!

thanks again!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on December 18, 2007, 01:15:23 PM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/Tatiana_by_AlixofHesse.jpg

This photo of Tatiana was coloured by someone else and I put on the text...but my question is, when was this photo taken? ;D
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on December 18, 2007, 06:34:26 PM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/Tatiana_by_AlixofHesse.jpg

This photo of Tatiana was coloured by someone else and I put on the text...but my question is, when was this photo taken? ;D

um.. justine colored that one!
i believe
haha

um the year 1913?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on December 18, 2007, 09:51:47 PM
Emily's right -- that was taken in 1913. (You can tell from the wig.) ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on December 22, 2007, 08:45:55 PM
Emily's right -- that was taken in 1913. (You can tell from the wig.) ;)

:)
thanks sarushka!
they were getting dressed for the Russian Tencharary?
sorry.. i can't spell it.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on December 23, 2007, 07:32:19 AM
they were getting dressed for the Russian Tencharary?
sorry.. i can't spell it.

Yes. The big pair had formal portraits taken in court dress for the tercentenary. (Not sure if I spelled it right, either!) ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on December 23, 2007, 04:44:33 PM
haha ok :)
thanks so much sasrushka.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on December 24, 2007, 10:50:28 AM
Yes, your right Emily, Justine did do that Tatiana photo.
I have a question (about these two photos)?
Are these two taken on the same day and is she wearing a wig? year was 1914 right? I think so because they are wearing the same outfits and as the other 1914 formal photos show.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/Valeria_Anya/OTMA/tprofile19141.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/Valeria_Anya/OTMA/ATF82B.jpg

Where was this second on taken? year was 1913 I think.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/Valeria_Anya/OTMA/tatolposedoutside.jpg
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Aliss_Kande on December 24, 2007, 01:31:10 PM
For the first two, the year is 1914, but Tatiana is not wearing a wig.  Her hair had grown out to that length by that time and she wore it that way for the sitting.  I am not sure of the year on the third, but I would not be surprised if it is 1913 because of the way she has the turbin wrapped around her head. 
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on December 24, 2007, 08:24:03 PM
Where was this second on taken? year was 1913 I think.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/Valeria_Anya/OTMA/tatolposedoutside.jpg

That was 1914.

Aliss is correct about the two formal photos.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on December 25, 2007, 08:30:45 AM
Thanks Aliss and Sarushka for your help. I figured it was taken around that year 1914. It is true that in 1913 the girls were wearing those turbans in 1913 also, but it was a little different. As Sarushka said, it was 1914 because this photo also was taken in 1914 and their wearing the same clothes. :)
http://livadia.org/mashka/images/otma1914_1.jpg


Merry Christmas
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on December 26, 2007, 12:24:07 PM
In that last photo,Tatiana is which one?  :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Aliss_Kande on December 26, 2007, 12:52:47 PM
She is the farest from the camera, behind Nicky, laughing with her mouth wide open.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on December 26, 2007, 03:21:17 PM
Thanks,but that's not the one I meant...Sorry I didn't say which one. I meant this one:
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http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/Valeria_Anya/OTMA/tatolposedoutside.jpg

Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 26, 2007, 05:40:14 PM
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/Valeria_Anya/OTMA/tatolposedoutside.jpg

Olga is in the front, Tatiana is in the back...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on December 26, 2007, 05:48:10 PM
Thank-You! :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on December 27, 2007, 05:32:45 PM
Some photo questions...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/148472824.jpg (Is Tatiana in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/Colored20romanov20015.jpg (Who's who in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/245987104.jpg (Who's who in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/245986506.jpg (Is this Tatiana?)

Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Aliss_Kande on December 27, 2007, 09:11:18 PM
Some photo questions...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/148472824.jpg (Is Tatiana in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/Colored20romanov20015.jpg (Who's who in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/245987104.jpg (Who's who in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/245986506.jpg (Is this Tatiana?)



1) No
2) L to R: Olga, Tatiana, Anastasia, Marie
3) Alexandra Feodorovna, Anna Vyer- whatever, and Olga
4) Can't tell from this far away, but I think it's Olga
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on December 27, 2007, 09:18:59 PM
Aliss spot on :D

the first one was of
Anastasia, Olga *in the back* and Marie laying down.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on January 03, 2008, 01:45:02 PM
This is not about a photo,but is there a anecdote about Tatiana and Ella of Hesse and Tatiana having a box with matches,paper,and gravel in it...to set it on fire when she was lonley?

Thanks,Tatianochka.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: GDLynn on January 03, 2008, 08:12:06 PM
Some photo questions...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/148472824.jpg (Is Tatiana in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/Colored20romanov20015.jpg (Who's who in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/245987104.jpg (Who's who in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/245986506.jpg (Is this Tatiana?)



4) Can't tell from this far away, but I think it's Olga

Yes, I think your right! looks like Olga....ok being the knitting nerd that my sister is (I have seen her/heard her talk about knitting this way)...I have to point this out! But it looks like she is knitting with 3 or 4 needles (most likely 3)...witch means that she is 'Knitting in the round'....lol which you do when making hats and socks (both of which my sister has done)....lol sorry But I just had to point that out! My sister looked at in and said "Yep, she's knitting in the round"

Lynn

P.S. who ever colored that picture did really good!!!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on January 04, 2008, 07:59:53 AM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/245986506.jpg (Is this Tatiana?)


4) Can't tell from this far away, but I think it's Olga

Yes, I think your right! looks like Olga....

It's definitely Olga. I have another photo of Tatiana sitting in the same spot.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on January 04, 2008, 10:48:14 AM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/245986506.jpg (Is this Tatiana?)


4) Can't tell from this far away, but I think it's Olga

Yes, I think your right! looks like Olga....

It's definitely Olga. I have another photo of Tatiana sitting in the same spot.

Could I see that photo?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 04, 2008, 01:48:08 PM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/245986506.jpg (Is this Tatiana?)


4) Can't tell from this far away, but I think it's Olga

Yes, I think your right! looks like Olga....

It's definitely Olga. I have another photo of Tatiana sitting in the same spot.

Is there another picture of the girls, from the same shoot of them lying down in a line.. verticaly.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on January 04, 2008, 09:53:52 PM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/245986506.jpg (Is this Tatiana?)


4) Can't tell from this far away, but I think it's Olga

Yes, I think your right! looks like Olga....

It's definitely Olga. I have another photo of Tatiana sitting in the same spot.

Could I see that photo?

Tatiana:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tatiana/th_TatianainMauveroom.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tatiana/TatianainMauveroom.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: GDLynn on January 18, 2008, 07:28:00 PM
I'm not sure if this is where I sure post this but I have a question...

I was looking through the pictures on the yale site and I wanted to know if any one knew what they were doing in these pictures...
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/vcvcxv.jpg)
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/vccv.jpg)
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/jkljfd.jpg)
and Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/fdfre.jpg)

also this picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/what.jpg). it looks like one of the girls...not sure who. what is she doing? sliding down a big sheet?

Lynn
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Peterhof on January 18, 2008, 08:32:12 PM
I'm not sure if this is where I sure post this but I have a question...

I was looking through the pictures on the yale site and I wanted to know if any one knew what they were doing in these pictures...
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/vcvcxv.jpg)
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/vccv.jpg)
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/jkljfd.jpg)
and Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/fdfre.jpg)

also this picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/what.jpg). it looks like one of the girls...not sure who. what is she doing? sliding down a big sheet?

Lynn

I think I know this one.  In the first four they are doing some stretching exercises on the Standart deck.  In the last one I believe is Maria, having the time of her life, sliding in a piece of cloth (most probably from the Standart), which is hanging from a higher place, one by one they jumped into the cloth and slide safely to the bottom.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: GDLynn on January 19, 2008, 02:51:07 PM
I'm not sure if this is where I sure post this but I have a question...

I was looking through the pictures on the yale site and I wanted to know if any one knew what they were doing in these pictures...
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/vcvcxv.jpg)
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/vccv.jpg)
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/jkljfd.jpg)
and Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/fdfre.jpg)

also this picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/what.jpg). it looks like one of the girls...not sure who. what is she doing? sliding down a big sheet?

Lynn

I think I know this one.  In the first four they are doing some stretching exercises on the Standart deck.  In the last one I believe is Maria, having the time of her life, sliding in a piece of cloth (most probably from the Standart), which is hanging from a higher place, one by one they jumped into the cloth and slide safely to the bottom.

Thank you!!

Lynn
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 20, 2008, 10:13:22 AM
I'm not sure if this is where I sure post this but I have a question...

I was looking through the pictures on the yale site and I wanted to know if any one knew what they were doing in these pictures...
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/vcvcxv.jpg)
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/vccv.jpg)
Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/jkljfd.jpg)
and Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/fdfre.jpg)

also this picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/what.jpg). it looks like one of the girls...not sure who. what is she doing? sliding down a big sheet?

Lynn

I think I know this one.  In the first four they are doing some stretching exercises on the Standart deck.  In the last one I believe is Maria, having the time of her life, sliding in a piece of cloth (most probably from the Standart), which is hanging from a higher place, one by one they jumped into the cloth and slide safely to the bottom.

Thats definatly right!
I think thats the same spot where Nastya is swinging on a big swing.
livadia? they are wearing their white dresses so maybe.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: anna11 on February 15, 2008, 07:15:40 AM
Hey, can someone please give me the Tatiana equivalent of this photo of Olga? (She's got a very regal air here doesn't she?)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c82/anna_11/4olgaformal-vi.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Marie-Catherine on February 15, 2008, 08:13:38 AM
Mines (but they aren't good quality)

With Olga :
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/th_olgatatianaformal.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/olgatatianaformal.jpg)
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/th_olgatatiana4.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/olgatatiana4.jpg)

Tatiana :
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/th_tatianacourtdress.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/tatianacourtdress.jpg)
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/th_JejVsostTanaznovu.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/JejVsostTanaznovu.jpg)
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/th_1913-JejcarskVsostTanaNikolajevna.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/1913-JejcarskVsostTanaNikolajevna.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Nemos on March 24, 2008, 11:01:47 AM
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-2/1575.html

Это фото снято в Угловой гостиной ?
It is a photo it is removed in the Angular drawing room?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: tom_romanov on July 28, 2008, 08:50:57 AM
1. when and where was the photo of O,T,M taken ( they are wearing black dresses and state ribbons, olga is seated , maria next to her, her hair is up , tatiana behind them , ) ???
2.when was the photo of olga and tatiana taken ( they are in the sea, they have their hair down, olga is at the front of th photo and tatiana behind her next to a woman, Olga is holding up her skirt which is wet at the bottom, she wearing a hat) ???

any help appreciated!  :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on July 28, 2008, 09:43:52 AM
1. when and where was the photo of O,T,M taken ( they are wearing black dresses and state ribbons, olga is seated , maria next to her, her hair is up , tatiana behind them , ) ???

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/NAOTMAA%20assorted/th_olgatatmash1916.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/NAOTMAA%20assorted/olgatatmash1916.jpg)

1915, at the time of Konstantine Konstantinovich's funeral


Quote
2.when was the photo of olga and tatiana taken ( they are in the sea, they have their hair down, olga is at the front of th photo and tatiana behind her next to a woman, Olga is holding up her skirt which is wet at the bottom, she wearing a hat) ???

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Vyrubova/th_annabigpairbeach.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Vyrubova/annabigpairbeach.jpg)

Tatiana, Olga, and Anna Vyrubova. I would guess this is sometime between 1908 and 1910, as Olga's hair is still down. (For most of 1911, she wore her hair tied back in a low ponytail.) The shore at Livadia was stony, so this was probably taken in Finland or at Peterhof.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: tom_romanov on July 28, 2008, 09:49:46 AM
thanks so much Sarushka !  ;)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on July 29, 2008, 03:02:25 PM
Are there photos of where OTMA's Aunt Olga lived?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: tom_romanov on July 31, 2008, 05:12:26 AM
can anyone tell me when this photo of nicholas and alexandra was taken?

http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/tom_romanov/?action=view&current=1001784.jpg

thanks for any help.
tom
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Lalee on July 31, 2008, 05:56:08 AM
can anyone tell me when this photo of nicholas and alexandra was taken?

http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/tom_romanov/?action=view&current=1001784.jpg

thanks for any help.
tom

I'm pretty sure it would have been taken some time in 1907 or 1908.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: tom_romanov on July 31, 2008, 06:07:57 AM
thanks Ferah, im trying to put a date on the Beinecke photo albums
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: lulururu on July 31, 2008, 06:30:48 AM
I didn't know that Nicholas II had a dog at that period, in fact he probably had more than one dog...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on July 31, 2008, 06:40:12 AM
Is it just me, or do some of the Beinecke albums seem a bit jumbled, date-wise?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: tom_romanov on July 31, 2008, 07:44:19 AM
Is it just me, or do some of the Beinecke albums seem a bit jumbled, date-wise?

i agree when i look through i see some pictures from 1908 and others 1910! perhaps some fell out and they just shoved them in anywhere?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on July 31, 2008, 07:56:50 AM
I'm fairly sure they were originally Vyrubova's albums, and given what I know about her I'm inclined to believe she wouldn't have been the most meticulous and organized person around...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: tom_romanov on July 31, 2008, 12:22:58 PM
I'm fairly sure they were originally Vyrubova's albums, and given what I know about her I'm inclined to believe she wouldn't have been the most meticulous and organized person around...

hmmm i agree with that if they were her album its a wonder they survived at all ( especially during her adventurious escape)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Holly on August 01, 2008, 02:40:59 PM
It's not just you, Sarah. It's incredibly annoying to sift through those; especially when you're looking for something in particular. I wish someone would write out all the dates/places that appear in each album to make it easier for people find things. I might do this myself...
Title: How did they do this?
Post by: amartin71718 on August 08, 2008, 04:47:19 PM
How did they do this?
(http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/otjump.jpg)
Title: Re: How did they do this?
Post by: Marie-Catherine on August 08, 2008, 04:56:50 PM
I don't think that Tatiana was standing on her toes. It's may be due to the bad exposition of the picture.
Title: Re: How did they do this?
Post by: Forum Admin on August 08, 2008, 05:53:23 PM
she is standing "on point" the ballet position.  The perspective makes it look like she's floating, but she is standing on her toes  (remember the scene in "Titanic" where Rose does the same thing at the dance in Steerage?)
Title: Re: How did they do this?
Post by: koloagirl on August 08, 2008, 06:01:23 PM

Aloha all!

It seems to me that sometime in the last couple of years this same question was raised about this very same picture - as best I can recall it was shown via comparison with another picture that she is actually holding onto a railing of a fence - and the ground was raised - neither
of which you can see clearly in this pic.

I'm relying on my always-faulty memory here, but maybe others can remember the same discussion?

Janet R.
Title: Re: How did they do this?
Post by: Holly on August 08, 2008, 07:21:30 PM
If you lighten the picture, you can see she's standing on a mound of dirt.
Title: Re: How did they do this?
Post by: nena on August 09, 2008, 07:49:13 AM
I wanted to ask about that image in Looking for Help thread. What a interesting picture---circa 1910, I guess?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Olga Maria on January 20, 2009, 04:33:13 AM
Isn't that tiring? Anyway, for the Romanovs, it  would be so okay for you, Holly, right?
God Bless.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on February 13, 2009, 11:38:10 AM
Could someone post the letter that Alexandra wrote to Tatiana that says something like, ''You must think nicely before writing your words''...?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: nena on March 15, 2009, 03:21:34 PM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/NAOTMAA%20assorted/th_olgatatmash1916.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/NAOTMAA%20assorted/olgatatmash1916.jpg)

1915, at the time of Konstantine Konstantinovich's funeral
Again this photo -- seen just labeled to be taken at Rasputin's funreal, and it is labeled '1916' in your photo.  :o. strange. That's why OTM are wearing 'fat' clothes, but just IMO.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 15, 2009, 03:22:57 PM
No, that is definitely not Rasputinīs funeral. That funeral happened practically in secret and anyway - why would the girls wear the order ribbons? And Maria looks happy (which I find a bit odd considering it really was a funeral)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: nena on March 15, 2009, 03:27:23 PM
You are right about order ribbons now. Anyomre taken from same day. Again mysteries with 'missing photos' and sources. t might be funreal of a soldier from hospital, and now I believe it is from 1915 at KR funreal. 
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: nena on April 06, 2009, 12:54:35 PM
Who is with Tatiana in this 1914 Livadia photo behind?:

http://livadia.org/tanya/images/tatarbor.jpg

Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Proud_Olga on April 06, 2009, 01:21:30 PM
I wonder the same thing too.
I'd say it could be Anastasia.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on April 06, 2009, 01:25:18 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Grand Duchess Ferah on April 06, 2009, 06:12:13 PM
I was able to make out the eyes and the eyebrows.  Although it 's not very clear,  I would say it 's definitely Anastasia, too..
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: RealAnastasia on April 06, 2009, 11:28:44 PM
As far as I know, it IS Anastasia.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: nena on April 07, 2009, 08:13:03 AM
Thanks to all, firstly I though it is Anna Vyrubova, since of a hat, but mystery is solved for me now!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Georgiy on August 06, 2009, 10:39:09 PM
It seems the kind of thing that Anastasia would do - sneak up behind her sister when she's having a photo done - probably wanted have the photo end up with Tatiana shrieking or something, but the photographer was too quick. :-\
Title: Looking for a pic!
Post by: HistoryFreak7793 on November 09, 2009, 04:23:05 PM
hey everyone i was wondering if someone has a pic of tatiana when she was little close up. uncolored
like this-
http://s416.photobucket.com/albums/pp250/Rocker678/?action=view&current=215.jpg

thanxx!
Title: Re: Looking for a pic!
Post by: nena on November 09, 2009, 04:30:52 PM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/hpqscan0003-1.jpg)
See: http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=9036.390 In the next time, try using thread 'Looking For Pictures', in Having Fun section. Lucky!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: blessOTMA on December 05, 2009, 11:42:17 PM
Lord knows where, but I have seen a better or brighter copy of this photo of  Tatiana / 1914 Livadia
and it's clearly Anastasia peeking though the brush....no surprize there    http://livadia.org/tanya/images/tatarbor.jpg

Are there a big pair equivalent of the photos of  Maria and Anastasia sitting on rope coils on
the Standart in sailor suits?...when quite young, even around the film of all of the them playing

thanks!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: nena on December 06, 2009, 02:57:47 AM
We have always suspected is that Anna Vyrubova, but most likely it is Anastasia. And you are pretty correct, there are 1907 Standart photos of OTMAA individually. And footage too.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on December 06, 2009, 07:24:12 AM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Olga/th_ostandart1907.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Olga/?action=view&current=ostandart1907.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tatiana/th_tatianayacht.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tatiana/?action=view&current=tatianayacht.jpg)

These were actually taken on board the Polar Star. The Standart had solid deck rails to prevent the children from falling over the edge. When NAOTMAA visited Polar Star, canvas was stretched over the open rails for the same purpose -- as you can see in these photos.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Justine on December 06, 2009, 08:39:18 AM
Lord knows where, but I have seen a better or brighter copy of this photo of  Tatiana / 1914 Livadia
and it's clearly Anastasia peeking though the brush....no surprize there    http://livadia.org/tanya/images/tatarbor.jpg


at http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov_album.htm (http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov_album.htm)(in the beginning of 3rd album)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: blessOTMA on December 06, 2009, 02:34:31 PM

These were actually taken on board the Polar Star. The Standart had solid deck rails to prevent the children from falling over the edge. When NAOTMAA visited Polar Star, canvas was stretched over the open rails for the same purpose -- as you can see in these photos.

Sarushka, Thank you  for the photos and the information!! I think of them as always being on the Standart ,
but that was not the case... in fact thier yachting years  might almost be spilt between the two ships . 
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: blessOTMA on December 06, 2009, 02:48:59 PM

at http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov_album.htm (http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov_album.htm)(in the beginning of 3rd album)
[/quote]

Thank you Justine! , when the question is Romanov photo, the answer is often beinecke! lol!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: larri* on March 08, 2010, 02:39:23 PM
I found this picture labeled as Tatiana but I'M ALMOST SHURE SHE ISN'T HER. What do you think?

(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/probablynottanya.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 08, 2010, 02:50:24 PM
If it really is one of OTMA, it is Tatiana.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: larri* on March 08, 2010, 03:30:05 PM
The fact is that I found it on Ebay so maybe the girl is not none of OTMA, but physically she looks like Tatiana
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: rosieposie on March 08, 2010, 04:46:04 PM
Looks similar to the clothes and hat that OTMA wore so could be a blured picture of  Tatiana.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 09, 2010, 12:59:06 AM
I also think the clothes fit, and there is definite resemblance to the grand Duchess. Iīm opened to the idea of it being Tatiana.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on April 19, 2010, 10:03:11 AM
Does anyone have the picture that began this topic? I can't see it. I hate it when Photobucket pictures don't show up, don't you?
Emily x
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Talya on April 19, 2010, 11:55:43 AM
Jesu Maria! I don't know how many times I couldn't see a photobucket picture!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on April 19, 2010, 02:01:51 PM
Does anyone have the picture that began this topic? I can't see it. I hate it when Photobucket pictures don't show up, don't you?
Emily x

It's this one:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/th_bigpairwoods.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/?action=view&current=bigpairwoods.jpg)

If you lighten it, you'll see that Tatiana is standing with her heels against a mound or a rock.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Beautiful_Anastasia on April 20, 2010, 06:55:41 AM
Thankyou Sarushka!
Emily x
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Olga Maria on April 23, 2010, 12:47:33 AM
I found this picture labeled as Tatiana but I'M ALMOST SHURE SHE ISN'T HER. What do you think?
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/probablynottanya.jpg
This looks like Tatiana in Finland c. 1911 or 1912. But, I'm not also sure if the girl here is really her.
Does the seller indicate where he/she got this picture?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: larri* on April 23, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
This looks like Tatiana in Finland c. 1911 or 1912. But, I'm not also sure if the girl here is really her.
Does the seller indicate where he/she got this picture?
[/quote]

I can't remember it exactly, and the picture is already sold so I can't check it, but I believe the seller indicated the picture was her grandmother's.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Talya on May 04, 2010, 01:12:47 AM
IMO if it was his grandmothers, she had to be close to a red guard or a lady in waiting
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: RomanovMartyrs on May 23, 2010, 02:49:50 PM
I am looking for information on a specific photographer who supposedly shot one of Nicholas II in (guessing) 1908, Tsarskoe Selo.

The photographer's name I know, but only the old Russian form and I have no means of typing out the old Russian correctly.

So in 'Modern' Russian it's roughly П И Видинева.

If anyone could confirm that he (she?!) ever actually photographed the Tsar it would be helpful. I ask this because I am trying to authenticate (or prove false for that matter) a photograph.


THANKS!
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: nena on May 23, 2010, 03:18:36 PM
By the surname that ends on 'va' , we are talking about a woman. I have been searching, but with no luck to find certain photo. Could you give us more information about details?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: RomanovMartyrs on May 23, 2010, 05:25:33 PM
By the surname that ends on 'va' , we are talking about a woman. I have been searching, but with no luck to find certain photo. Could you give us more information about details?

Good point about the surname, however I have simply copied the name from the back of the 'photograph' and it is part of a sentence. So it could very well just have the ending because of the rest of the phrase. It could be a Vidinev.
Title: Clothing
Post by: RussianLACE on August 30, 2010, 12:25:37 AM
When and where were these photos taken? im thinkin 1914 in the crimea. it looks like she was wearing different clothes than her sisters. didnt she normally match olga or olga, maria and anastasia?
(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx184/RussianLACE/9ec9d5ca2fcc.jpg)
(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx184/RussianLACE/34eb3063406c.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: nena on August 30, 2010, 07:37:18 AM
Yes, definitely Crimea in the spring of 1914. GD Xenia Alexandrovna was also presented with her husband. I am not sure if I understand your question about Tatiana's clothes. Yes, it seems that she wears different gown.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: blessOTMA on August 30, 2010, 11:12:25 AM
Since it seems a family outing, imo it's more likely they could dress as they pleased , rather than completely alike as  usual.
Thank you for posting these.  I love that series. Everyone is so casual and carefree ...a moment of sunshine just before the war.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: RussianLACE on August 30, 2010, 11:13:40 AM
Tatiana usually wore clothes matching Olga. so why isnt she matching olga in this photo?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Condecontessa on August 30, 2010, 03:12:31 PM
I'm pretty sure they did not wear exact matching clothes all the time. They must have worn clothes with similar styling, cut etc... Besides, they must have worn similar cut and styling but with differnet colouring.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: blessOTMA on August 30, 2010, 03:48:08 PM
The Crimea meant a relaxation of many things....perhaps dress as well. And perhaps about this time and after , only in their public life did they wear absolutely the same.... but in private life , during the war and after,  we do see them wearing different clothes from each other.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on August 30, 2010, 07:42:47 PM
There are also a few photos of the imperial family on board Standart that show Tatiana in a different dress than her sisters:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Standart/th_Benchdotsdog2.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Standart/?action=view&current=Benchdotsdog2.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Standart/th_Benchdotsdog.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Standart/?action=view&current=Benchdotsdog.jpg)

(I know this has been discussed before, but I can't think of what keywords would be specific enough to bring up the thread in a search.)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: blessOTMA on August 30, 2010, 10:26:43 PM
I always thought Tatiana is dressed differently from the rest of OTMA there because she stayed with her mother that day while the others went ashore...( both  Tatiana and her mother are sewing) ... but that is speculation
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: nena on August 31, 2010, 08:03:33 AM
I always thought Tatiana is dressed differently from the rest of OTMA there because she stayed with her mother that day while the others went ashore...( both  Tatiana and her mother are sewing) ... but that is speculation

Yes. I was about to say same. Maybe they had to wear exact and specific clothes when they were sewing -- in this case, both Empress and Tatiana were sewing, unlike OMA.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: blessOTMA on August 31, 2010, 09:07:39 AM
Yes. I was about to say same. Maybe they had to wear exact and specific clothes when they were sewing -- in this case, both Empress and Tatiana were sewing, unlike OMA.
Well activity seemed to dictate  what one wore. Tatiana would not wear an out fit they wore for hiking with their father if she was to spend the day with her mother. There are photos of TN wearing the same outfit as OMA do here of course...a good number  of them.
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Tatiana%20Nicolaievna/th_tasha1914.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Tatiana%20Nicolaievna/tasha1914.jpg)
In the two photos Sarushka posted, I have wondered if this  was at the end of a day of hiking ...they seem tired( for once! )and Anastasia has next to her that stray dog they found ....it is the same type as Joy, but does not have Joy's facial markings
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Jessika on December 02, 2010, 03:30:20 PM
Does somebody have this picture of Maria, not coloured?

This one? (http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll299/Romanovy/OTMA/happy%20times/Mariekresl.jpg)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: larri* on February 09, 2011, 10:04:05 AM
I've always thought the baby of this photo, was Maria. But  yesterday I found this version (clearer version than the one I had) of the photo in the Hermitage Museums Collection and there said this photo, included on a Faberge frame, was sent by Nicholas and Alix to Xenia Alexandrovna in 1898, and in the back of the photo it was written "Niki and Alix 1898".
(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4995/1898tatyana.jpg) (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/1898tatyana.jpg/)

 I used to thought the baby was Maria, amongst other things because Alix seems to wear the same dress, hairstyle and adornent on the neck (as the photo shows) than in 1899's newborn Maria's photograph session:
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4244/21899augustm2copia.jpg) (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/21899augustm2copia.jpg/)

But then comparing the photos, I think Tatiana looks more like the baby (thin lips, tiny nose) than Maria.
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6751/31897tcopia.jpg) (http://img145.imageshack.us/i/31897tcopia.jpg/)
(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4995/1898tatyana.jpg) (http://img810.imageshack.us/i/1898tatyana.jpg/)
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Does someone know for sure, if the baby is Tatiana or Maria? Thanks for your help =)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on February 09, 2011, 04:03:53 PM
You can tell by the empress's dress. It's unusual for her to wear dark clothes in a formal session, but in 1899 she wore black because the court was in mourning for Grand Duke Georgiy. (Alexandra also wore black for some photos in Anastasia's baby session in 1901 due to Queen Victoria's death.) For Tatiana's baby session Alexandra wore white. Other photos of the empress in the same dress and jewelry show Tatiana as a toddler, so the baby you're asking about must be Maria:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_family1899.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=family1899.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_family1899_3-1.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=family1899_3-1.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_family1899_2.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=family1899_2.jpg)

Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on February 09, 2011, 04:13:25 PM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_family1899_2.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=family1899_2.jpg)
Thank you for a nice big version of that darling photo!  :)
As for whether or not the baby is Tatiana or Maria, the dress Alix is wearing points to it being Marie, and yet the frame said "1898". So...it must be Tatiana? Puzzling... ???
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: larri* on February 09, 2011, 04:35:36 PM
You can tell by the empress's dress. It's unusual for her to wear dark clothes in a formal session, but in 1899 she wore black because the court was in mourning for Grand Duke Georgiy. (Alexandra also wore black for some photos in Anastasia's baby session in 1901 due to Queen Victoria's death.) For Tatiana's baby session Alexandra wore white. Other photos of the empress in the same dress and jewelry show Tatiana as a toddler, so the baby you're asking about must be Maria:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_family1899.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=family1899.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_family1899_3-1.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=family1899_3-1.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_family1899_2.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=family1899_2.jpg)


Ok. Sarushka, thank you very much for your help! =)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on February 10, 2011, 08:43:41 AM
As for whether or not the baby is Tatiana or Maria, the dress Alix is wearing points to it being Marie, and yet the frame said "1898". So...it must be Tatiana? Puzzling... ???

It could be that the frame is wrong. Remember, Tatiana would have been a year old in 1898, not an infant.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: TimM on February 10, 2011, 04:57:23 PM
That would seem to support the idea that it is Tatiana.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Condecontessa on February 10, 2011, 06:03:55 PM
I also think its Maria since there is another pic of baby Maria with the Empress and Olga. The frame must be inscribed that it was given by the Imperial couple and GD Xenia or the Hermitage simply inserted the questioned pic. I know it's kind of odd that no formal pic of baby Tatiana with her family was taken. There are pics of the Empress holding baby Tatiana but it's outdoors and kind of "amateurish".
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on February 10, 2011, 07:08:36 PM
Oh no, there are formal pictures of baby Tatiana. They're not taken when she was as little as the other girls, she seems to be at least six months, but I'd still consider that baby, wouldn't you?  ;) 
http://otma.blog.cz/galerie/formalni-fotografie/1897-8#44803621
On the other hand, I've never seen the outdoor "amateurish" one that you referenced. Unless I'm mistaken and I just don't recall. Could you please post it anyways?  :)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2011, 09:02:13 AM
Oh no, there are formal pictures of baby Tatiana. They're not taken when she was as little as the other girls, she seems to be at least six months, but I'd still consider that baby, wouldn't you?  ;) 


There are younger ones yet:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_alixot1897-1.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=alixot1897-1.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_babytatolga.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=babytatolga.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/th_alixbabytat.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Formals/?action=view&current=alixbabytat.jpg)

Possibly the last one is the photo Condecontessa referred to.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Condecontessa on February 11, 2011, 05:53:49 PM
The pictures you posted are the amateurish outdoor pics I was refering about, thanks for posting it Sarushka. To me, it seems like the pics were taken outside either at Tsarskoe or Peterhof. The other 3 GD's have pics that were taken around the time of their christening in a more formal setting.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: The Test Card Girl on May 31, 2013, 09:22:09 AM
I miss the beautiful dresses of the Imperial era. Unisex clothes by definition can't be as feminine.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Arfly on July 30, 2015, 02:16:59 PM
Does anyone know whether the girl in the first picture is Olga or Tatiana?
I noticed that this picture was already discussed on this forum. However, the discussion was over whether or not the girl in the first picture was Tatiana or Maria.
For my part, I have always thought it was Olga, so I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts/evidence and/or other pictures that would help to determine which girl this is?

I have accompanied the photo in question with a second of Tatiana from around the same time. These are the only pictures I have been able to find of the girls in these outfits at this certain age. One might be tempted to say that because the girl in the second picture is Tatiana that, therefore, the girl in the first one must be Tatiana as well. However, if Tatiana is wearing that outfit, than Olga must be wearing the same outfit as well, so the first girl could still be Olga.

Notice how Tatiana's outfit (in the 2nd picture) is rather loose fitting and cuts below her knees. The first girl's outfit, however, looks short and ill-fitting. My theory is that Olga was possibly in the middle of her growth spurt at this time and her clothes were not fitting right. On the other hand, one might argue that the 1st dress just looks too short, but it really isn't and has simply gotten mussed up in the time between the 2nd pic and the 1st.

Another point I would like to make is that Tatiana's hair in the 2nd pic is sticking out and messy, while the girl's hair in the first picture is smooth. Of course, it could be argued that the first picture preceded the second and that Tatiana's hair got messed up in between; or that the pictures were taken on two different days.

It just seems so uncharacteristic of Tatiana to smile that brightly. It is more of something Olga would do.

Thoughts anyone?


(http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/arflypaper/media/TatianaOlga_zpsjxy5yj3z.jpg.html)

(http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/arflypaper/media/1001511_quarter_zpskprkxkue.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Arfly on July 30, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Sorry the pics didn't upload right the first time.

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah232/arflypaper/TatianaOlga_zpsjxy5yj3z.jpg)
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah232/arflypaper/1001511_quarter_zpskprkxkue.jpg)

That's better...
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 01, 2015, 03:44:42 AM
I never doubted that the girl in question was Tatiana. She is laughing unabashedly in the photo, something that is rare, but that is her face alright. Furthermore the man behind her is Nicholas Sablin, who was assigned to look after her on the Standart cruises (and funny enough the man holding her hand is also Nicholas Sablin, the namesake of the first), The differenc tnagles of both photos make it difficult to judge how fitting the dress is, but to my eyes it looks the same. The second girl IS Tatiana beyond any doubt, too.
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Arfly on August 02, 2015, 10:27:47 AM
Who was assigned to look after Olga on the Standart cruises?
Title: Re: Question about and/or Help with a Picture
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 02, 2015, 10:42:57 AM
According to Helen Rappaportīs Romanov Sisters it was this other Nikolai Sablin.