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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Final Chapter => Topic started by: TheLionandTheEagle on January 20, 2017, 05:03:34 AM

Title: The Jewels
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on January 20, 2017, 05:03:34 AM
What happened to the jewels found amid the clothing and belongings of the family?  I know Fate of the Romanovs describes them as being sent to Moscow, but where are they now?
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: Forum Admin on January 20, 2017, 06:09:13 AM
long gone. Stones were put into the diamond fund, the gold melted, some sold.
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on January 20, 2017, 08:51:36 PM
Ahh okay -- so I've seen some of them then, perhaps.  (Been to the Diamond Fund in the Kremlin Armory.) 
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: Forum Admin on January 20, 2017, 10:57:45 PM
No you misunderstand. The stuff on display at the Diamond fund is a tiny fraction of what is in the fund. Mostly the Imperial Jewels, not the personal items.  The Ekaterinburg jewelry was BROKEN DOWN. The loose stones put with all the others and the precious metal was melted for bullion. Very little remains intact of what Yurovsky sent to Moscow.
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on January 20, 2017, 11:08:24 PM
Gottcha -- are some of the loose stones on display from Yekaterinburg or no?
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: Forum Admin on January 21, 2017, 12:08:01 AM
No way to know for certain, but highly doubtful given the huge number of gem quality stones in the Fund. You seem not to know that the Diamond Fund is the largest amount of diamonds on the planet.  Far larger than DeBeers, South Africa, Australia or England.  If Russia released all their stones to the free market the price for best quality diamonds would plummet to less than $100 per carat.
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on January 21, 2017, 01:20:41 AM
True -- though I was thinking perhaps that they would show them because of the historical significance -- but perhaps that is the exact reason they WOULDN'T want to, because it is such a morbid and shameful aspect of their history.  Much more morbid than the Crown Jewels and such that are not directly related to the murder.
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: Forum Admin on January 21, 2017, 02:58:35 AM
The Bolshevik government refused to acknowledge the murders even happened and found nothing of the Nicholas II era to be of any "historical value".  They just dumped the stones into the large bags of similar size/color/quality diamonds and the gold was melted down with any other gold they had at the time.  There never was a way to identify the origin of the diamonds much less the identity of the original owner.

The Soviet regime kept pretty much the same attitude.
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on January 21, 2017, 04:04:47 AM
Yikes.  Not sure why I'd expect better from that lot, though.
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on January 21, 2017, 09:39:11 PM
Read the book "The Greatest Heist" which deals with how the Bolsheviks sold all the loot they took and how it enabled them to stay in power.
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: TheLionandTheEagle on January 22, 2017, 04:49:04 AM
Read the book "The Greatest Heist" which deals with how the Bolsheviks sold all the loot they took and how it enabled them to stay in power.

Ooo, interesting!  Thanks!
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: BobAtchison on September 24, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
Soloviev told me he assumed the jewels that were stripped from the bodies were still being kept in the files of the KGB somewhere.
Title: Re: The Jewels
Post by: Превед on October 04, 2017, 04:52:21 PM
Read the book "The Greatest Heist" which deals with how the Bolsheviks sold all the loot they took and how it enabled them to stay in power.

You mean "History's Greatest Heist".
https://www.amazon.com/Historys-Greatest-Heist-Looting-Bolsheviks/dp/0300135580