Alexander Palace Forum

Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Tsarevich Alexei Nicholaievich => Topic started by: AlexeiLVR on February 05, 2005, 11:31:30 AM

Title: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: AlexeiLVR on February 05, 2005, 11:31:30 AM
How old was Alexei when he got his dog Joy? ???
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: lostfan on February 05, 2005, 05:09:47 PM
I'm not sure, but I think he got Joy during the war, around 1914-1915?
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: otmafan on February 05, 2005, 06:36:28 PM
Quote
I'm not sure, but I think he got Joy during the war, around 1914-1915?


I think you're right. They got Jemmy around the same time too.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Marya Pavlovna on February 08, 2005, 12:48:55 AM
I thought he got Joy at a much younger age. I herd that Joy survived and went to live in England, is that true?
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Georgiy on February 08, 2005, 02:01:48 PM
Yes. There's a thread about Joy somewhere with more info on that.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 08, 2005, 09:47:57 AM
i'v only seen a few pictures of joy with alexei... please post some.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on August 09, 2005, 12:03:09 AM
There is also a picture of Alexei and Joy at Livadia where Alexei is wearing a Cossak Uniform, does anyone have that one? I might, but I can't find it at the moment!

~Anastacia~
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: sailor_of_standart on August 28, 2005, 11:50:49 PM
I was just wondering what happened to Joy after the event on July 17th.  It was said she was found alive at the house.  I know Anastasia's little dog was killed along side her.  So what happened to Joy?
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Baby Tsarevich on August 29, 2005, 12:30:10 AM
I've read that Joy was sent to live in England!
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 29, 2005, 12:30:10 AM
I believe Joy's the one who lived out the rest of her life on a farm.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Eternal_Princess on August 29, 2005, 05:16:11 AM
She was sent out to live in England, but the poor baby was said to have been blinded by what she witnessed... oh dear.  :'(
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Ortino on August 29, 2005, 04:03:58 PM
Yes. She went to live in England and is buried at Windsor Park.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 29, 2005, 09:42:56 PM
Hmm. I don't think she saw anything, I don't think she was in the room. Jemmy was in the room, and they killed him/her. I think he/she was the only pet they killed.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Ortino on August 29, 2005, 09:50:41 PM
Joy wasn't in the room when they were killed. He/she did go blind though.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 29, 2005, 11:26:45 PM
It was probably just old age. My dog went blind a few months before we had him put down. That was from old age, too.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Eternal_Princess on August 30, 2005, 09:05:29 PM
I meant that's what everyone said happened to Joy, it turned itself into a romantic little tale untill Yurvskey's letters, apparently, told the truth.  Sorry I didn't add this earlier,  :-[.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Robert_Hall on August 30, 2005, 10:01:11 PM
Joy was taken by a British officer and lived out it's life in Windsor VILLAGE. It is buried underneath a parking lot. The house having long been re-developed. It went blind from old age. Common among many animals. This has been covered exstensively elsewhere.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: sailor_of_standart on August 31, 2005, 08:06:12 PM
I thought it was nice that Joy was buried at Windsor castle. Alas am sadden to think that the only animal that survived the night of July 16/17th is now buried under a parking lot.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: grandduchess_42 on September 02, 2005, 07:18:52 AM
then who was teh dog that died with nastya?
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Eddie_uk on September 23, 2005, 08:31:58 AM
Joy looked such a lovely dog!

Apparently when the Whites rushed to the Ipatiev House they found Joy wondering around the yard  :'(

Joy ended her days on a farm near Windsor. I would love to see her grave if anyone knows where abouts in Windsor it is??
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Linnea on October 07, 2005, 07:22:44 AM
(http://img33.exs.cx/img33/449/romanov660049uu.jpg)
Title: Re: Alexei dog joy
Post by: nena on July 13, 2008, 06:55:23 PM
Joy was found by Whites in 1918, and he was sent to England later, where he died, probbably missed Aleksei. I only know one guard told him(after murders in Ekaterinburg): You are waiting to no purpose....
Because he was near door in Ipatiev's room, and waiting for the IF. Poor dog!
Title: Re: Alexei dog joy
Post by: tatianolishka_ on July 14, 2008, 04:50:41 PM
Here're links to threads about my favorite little spaniel :D

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=9638.0
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=1940.0

You could also check out AGRBear's Imperial Pets thread for information, or PM me. The imperial pets are my passion :)

Title: Re: Alexei dog joy
Post by: AnnaAnderson101 on July 14, 2008, 05:28:44 PM
thanks i'll be sure to look at the Imperial Pets thread
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Victory_L on September 06, 2008, 01:12:25 PM
Good day! Sorry, I don't speak English. About dogs write in russian: http://www.dog.ru/index.php3?mode=1&id=415036   I from Peterburg, Tsarskoe Selo. Main name is Victoria (in russiandog forum - Kusado). lng-home@mail.ru
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: AGRBear on September 14, 2008, 10:09:56 AM
p. 54 in Katharine McDonogh's  REIGNING CATS AND DOGS:

>>The Tsarevich's assement of the dog's,<<  [Joy's]>> intelligence was astute: in December 1917 Alexei wrote to Petrov, his Russian-language tutor, relating how: "Joy is getting fatter every day as he keeps eating rubbish from the refuse pit.  Everyone chases him away with sticks.  He had a lot of friends in the town and is always running away."  <<

In 1915 Nicholas II thought to take advantage of Joy being photographed with Alexei and wrote to Alexandra the following:
>>How charming Alexei's photos are, the one standing ought to be sold as postcards-- both might be really---pleased, be done with Baby, also, for the public and then we can send them to the soldiers.<<   >>..Fredericks asked my opinion, whether to permit that cinema of Baby and Joy can be allowed to be shown in public; not having seen it, I cannot judge, so leave it to you to decide.  Baby told Mr. Gilliard that it was silly to see him 'faisant des piroutettes' and that the dog looked cleverer than he.<<

AGRBear

See more about Imperial pets:
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=2541.0



Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: tatianolishka_ on September 14, 2008, 11:49:35 AM
Bear, thank you for posting that except. Joy sounds like a typical dog - very funny. I wonder if the footage of Alexei and the dog still exists somewhere, it would be a wonderful gift if it did.

I believe the photograph he was talking about is one of these:

http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a014ic7.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zzzzzzzzzjh0.jpg

I had another one in mind, but can't seem to find it anywhere.

Victory, she was quoting the book and it mentioned how Alexei noted how his puppy was getting fat and how he thought his dog looked more clever than him on one occasion.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: nena on September 14, 2008, 12:35:23 PM
With Joy, at Mogilev, 1916:
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Michael%20of%20Greece%20Album/th_withdog.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Michael%20of%20Greece%20Album/withdog.jpg)
Thanks to EmmyLee!
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Sarushka on April 22, 2009, 07:36:35 PM
Can anyone confirm Joy's gender? I've seen the spaniel referred to as female in FOTR and in conversations here on the AP forums, but while browsing through Alekseyev's Last Act of a Tragedy this evening I ran across this entry in a list of items found in the home of guard M.I. Letemin after the execution:

"88) In Letemin's apartment a dog of former emperor Nicholas II was found, purebred, male [my emphasis], brown with white spots, named 'Joy'."

Alekseyev is pretty authoritative, but are there any written sources that claim Joy was female?
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: CorisCapnSkip on April 22, 2009, 11:59:57 PM
Too bad the copies of my favorite picture (of Alexei holding Joy and the cat) seem to be newspaper quality.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: nena on April 23, 2009, 09:00:05 AM
Well, I think( sadly I have no proofs) that Joy was male. Simply by a dog's name/I think/sounds to me as male one. Cat (Zubrovka) was female, since 'Zubrovka' is indeed female name.  Only IMO, since there are many names of both genders -- I mean one name - both genders, like 'Sasha'.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: CorisCapnSkip on May 13, 2009, 03:44:54 AM
Here

(http://news.webshots.com/photo/2230819730038578487NIGeuV)

is another one.  http://news.webshots.com/photo/2230819730038578487NIGeuV  Anyone know where to obtain a clearer copy without the writing?  That seems to be Joy or a dog like it.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Sarushka on May 17, 2009, 07:20:33 AM
Both Gilliard and Buxhoeveden -- who would have known Joy 'personally' -- refer to the dog as "him." So with Alekseyev, that makes three written sources in favor of male.

Quote
This http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080104052012AANbAgQ says Joy was a female despite a written source saying male.

Since 'Joy' is a common female name in the US and England, I suspect that person is either making an assumption or using FOTR as his source.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Ally Kumari on May 17, 2009, 09:52:17 AM
I always read Joy was female. Don´t know the original source for it though...
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: tatianolishka_ on November 07, 2009, 06:50:37 PM
From most accounts I believe that Alexei's beloved Joy was, in fact, a male - as Sarushka pointed out, Gillard and Buxhoveden describe the dog as a male spaniel.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Ausmanov on November 23, 2009, 04:15:58 PM
I mus agree with sarushka, i think Joy was a male
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Sarushka on December 03, 2009, 08:32:21 PM
Found this reference to Joy in the AF threads:


Letter No. 164  Tsarskoe Selo, Nov. 27, 1915.
I sent for Joy & he lies at my feet - a melancholy picture, as he misses his little master.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Gorseheart on September 09, 2010, 10:33:44 PM
This was rare on another thread, you may have seen it, but I think it's appropriate for this.
(http://nd01.jxs.cz/205/939/1c35754c0d_46031873_u.jpg)

Great friendship!
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Carisbrooke on September 10, 2010, 01:51:37 AM
  In Susanne Dunlap's fictional fem/teen novel "Anastasia's Secret" in the epilogue Susanne writes -

The only living being known to have suvived that night in Yekaterinburg was Joy, Alexei's spaniel. Sidney Gibbes found her wandering lost and forlorn around the yard of the house, crying for her master. She was taken to England to live out her days and is buried in Westminster Abbey. 

I know this is fictoin, but Joy buried in Westminster Abbey surely not.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Robert_Hall on September 10, 2010, 04:07:23 AM
I do not know where you got that story , but I have read in several sources that  Joy was taken in by one of the guards and found  by investigators.
 The dog was brought to England and lived a nice "retirement"  in Windsor village.  The animal is buried in what is now a car park.    I went on a search for  grave of the dog.  Nothing to see, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Carisbrooke on September 10, 2010, 06:54:11 AM
  Perhaps the author spiced things up a bit to give the book a happy conclusion (sort of). Though I don't understand why as it's not required for the plot.

    It would be nice to think it was true.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Princess_Ella on September 10, 2010, 02:02:17 PM
I've never seen that picture of Alexei and Joy before, where and when was it taken?
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: nena on September 10, 2010, 02:26:19 PM
We believe in the imperial train, during one of Alexei's trips to Stavka.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Gorseheart on September 11, 2010, 02:33:04 AM
Yeah, we think he's lying in his army cot. Plus, why do many people say Joy is Black, and others say he's red? Excuse my impudence, but what color was he?
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Gorseheart on September 11, 2010, 02:54:15 AM
Bear, thank you for posting that except. Joy sounds like a typical dog - very funny. I wonder if the footage of Alexei and the dog still exists somewhere, it would be a wonderful gift if it did.

I believe the photograph he was talking about is one of these:

http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a014ic7.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zzzzzzzzzjh0.jpg

I had another one in mind, but can't seem to find it anywhere.

Victory, she was quoting the book and it mentioned how Alexei noted how his puppy was getting fat and how he thought his dog looked more clever than him on one occasion.
Are you talking about the one were Joy is on the lead, and Alexei is (eating?) snow? Sorry for all my questions!
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Gorseheart on September 19, 2010, 09:32:38 PM
Where did Alexei come up with the name Joy?
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Dust_of_History on September 20, 2010, 10:26:33 AM
As far as I know, his mother recommended this name. She wrote a letter to him and explained what "Joy" means in English.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: nena on September 20, 2010, 12:56:44 PM
And when did Aleksei get his spaniel? In photos from early 1914, he is visible with the Heir.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Sarushka on September 20, 2010, 03:36:15 PM
As far as I know, his mother recommended this name. She wrote a letter to him and explained what "Joy" means in English.

Interesting! Do you have a copy of the letter? That would probably provide a date.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Dust_of_History on September 20, 2010, 04:39:09 PM
Yes, it was not easy but I've finally found the letter. :-) I've found it in the German book "Alexej, der Sohn des letzten Zaren" (Alexei, the son of the last Tsar) by Elisabeth Heresch.

Alexandra sent the letter to Alexei on October 31, 1914. As I only have the letter in German, here's my translation (only the part in which Alexandra mentions Joy):

"...What about your dog? He follows (your command) better when you call him "Joy". That means "joy" (the original word here was in Russian) in English."

Here is my copy in German:

"...Und dein Hund? Er folgt besser, wenn du ihn "Joy" rufst, das heißt auf Englisch "Freude"."  
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: AGRBear on September 20, 2010, 06:47:58 PM
There are white and black English Springer Spaniels,  however,  Joy was not.  His color was a white and reddish brown.  The term reddish brown is  known in the dog show world as "liver" color.

AGRBear
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: AGRBear on September 20, 2010, 07:17:24 PM


Quote
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/AGRBear3/Joy.jpg)

Joy

THE FATE OF THE ROMANOVS by King and Wilson p. 364 tell us that  Joy was found with Michael Letemin when he was arrested.  

Quote

...[in part]...

.... Joy, Alexis' spaniel, hid during the murder and , when the bodies were taken out of the cellar room, he ran out into the streets of Ekaterinburg. Later, Joy was found in the home of an Ipatiex House guard, Michael Letemin. When the guard was arrested by the White Army. Colonel Paul Pavlovich Rodzianko looked after Joy who had by then became totally blind. Joy was taken to Omsk with the British Military Mission. There, Baroness Buxhoeveden went to see Joy and the dog seemed to recognize her, despite he was blind, probably because of a familiar smell. Then Paul Rodzianko brought the dog out of Russia with him to a new home in England ". All this is from an article by Marion Wynn " The Last Resting Place of Joy " which was published in ROYALTY DIGEST of november 2004. Marion Wynn also says that " Ortino died with his mistress on the 17th july 1918 and that Jemmy was found in the mineshaft ". I do not know if there is GENUINE evidence about Ortino beeing killed in the cellar room ? And judging from the photo kindly posted by AGRBear, I find it very difficult to recognize Jemmy and to believe that his body did not decompose after so many months in the mineshaft.

AGRBear


Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Sarushka on September 20, 2010, 08:28:10 PM
Yes, it was not easy but I've finally found the letter. :-) I've found it in the German book "Alexej, der Sohn des letzten Zaren" (Alexei, the son of the last Tsar) by Elisabeth Heresch.

Alexandra sent the letter to Alexei on October 31, 1914. As I only have the letter in German, here's my translation (only the part in which Alexandra mentions Joy):

"...What about your dog? He follows (your command) better when you call him "Joy". That means "joy" (the original word here was in Russian) in English."

Here is my copy in German:

"...Und dein Hund? Er folgt besser, wenn du ihn "Joy" rufst, das heißt auf Englisch "Freude"."  

Excellent. Thank you.

Makes me wonder what other name Aleksei had been using for Joy...
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Dust_of_History on September 21, 2010, 07:02:27 AM
Yes, that would be interesting to know. Unfortunately, Alexandra doesn't mention anything about that. Maybe Alexei had not been using another name for the dog and was just unsure how to call it. Then Alexandra recommended calling the dog Joy. But that's just a guess.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: nena on September 21, 2010, 11:07:37 AM
I am deeply grateful for the letter. Danke shoen,  Dust_of_History! ;-). Still, he might have got him in the spring/summer of 1914, right?
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Dust_of_History on September 22, 2010, 07:55:34 AM
Bitte schön nena, no problem. :-) Yes, it is very likely that Alexei got Joy in spring/summer 1914. But it seems that the dog did not get the name "Joy" until November in the same year.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: AGRBear on September 22, 2010, 02:22:26 PM
....[in part]...

Here’s another photo I like a lot of Alexis wearing the uniform of the Tsar’s “Konvoi” (Cossack Bodyguard). It was taken on the terrace of the Livadia Palace with Joy, maybe at the same time he had his photo taken with his parents (see my earlier post).

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/Atamanets/alekseyjoy.jpg)


Ortino, what makes you think that Alexis didn’t get Joy before 1914? My feeling is that the 2 photos from Livadia (the one with Joy and the other one with his  parents) were taken on October 4, 1913. Why? Because on that day, the Imperial Family celebrated the regimental holiday of the Emperor’s Own Cossack Escort by going to the Cossacks’ barracks for a review and later coming back to the Palace for a holiday luncheon, as recorded by Nicholas II in his diary. It was customary for the Emperor to wear their uniform on that occasion.  As Alexis also is wearing the same uniform,  it must have been for a special occasion related to the Cossack Escort. They did go back to Livadia in Spring 1914 but I can’t think of any similar occasion then.

I unfortunately don’t know when the Tsarevich got his dog. But on October 5, 1913 Nicholas II wrote that “Alexis received his gifts in our bedroom”. October 5 was Alexis’ namesday. Before the Revolution, a namesday was more important than a birthday: gifts and congratulations were offered on one’s namesday. What if Alexis had received an early present on the day before – a dog! – so the photo taken on the terrace that day would be the first taken with his new companion?

By then it seems his injured leg was much better. When they arrived in the Crimea that year (on August 9) Alexis still couldn’t walk. I have a newsreel taken on that day and he can be seen being carried by Derevenko. Nicholas II records that he started his mudbaths on August 20. According to Gilliard, they helped a lot as he was soon able to walk again, albeit with a limp, as seen on other newsreels from late 1913-early 1914.

...[in part]...

Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Dust_of_History on September 22, 2010, 03:33:06 PM
Thanks AGRBear, of course it is possible that Alexei got Joy one year earlier in 1913, but I doubt it. I have never seen a letter or a diary entry written by Alexei in 1913 in which he mentions Joy. If Alexei had gotten Joy for his namesday, I'm pretty sure he would have mentioned that. But that's just my guess.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: nena on September 22, 2010, 06:16:50 PM
Alexei started writing his diary in 1916. Yes, those Convoy photos indeed come from October 4h, 1913 -- according to the albums of Empress Alexandra.

One photo from the session :

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Formalne%20slike%20and%20Romanov%20assorted/th_3cb3d9d1e458.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Formalne%20slike%20and%20Romanov%20assorted/?action=view&current=3cb3d9d1e458.jpg)

However, this photo (http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksej/P1030381.jpg) comes from Pierre Gillirad's collections, and it states that it was taken in 1914 at Livadia. (Russian Site). It can be wrong as well.

Russian site:

The first Alexei's dog ever mentioned , was Shot. What breed was that dog  -- it is not clear. Olga wrote on Oct. 18, 1914:

"... Alexei's Shot dead. He was buried today on the Island, and he is now his brother, also a Shot ... ".

What happened to the new pet, how long he had lived Alexei - not known. From the published letters and diaries of the tsar's children since 1914 hereinafter referred to only one dog Tsarevich - Spaniel (according to some sources Springer Spaniel) Joy.


Since the breed of Shot was not known, could be the Shot be in that photo taken in 1913? If the one of Alexei's photo on Livadia's balcony was taken in 1913. (With Joy).

EDIT: This is really confusing. We have to figure out was the photo of Alexei with a dog taken in 1913 or in 1914? I believe in 1913. But other statements claim that Joy was not mentioned but since 1914.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: Sarushka on September 23, 2010, 08:45:09 AM
If I recall correctly, Aleksei's dog Shot is also mentioned in a letter or diary entry from the IF's captivity in Tobolsk -- I believe Shot played the canine role in "The Crystal Gazer."

So presumably Aleksei had both dogs at the same time, though Joy seems to have been his favorite.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: EmmyLee on November 01, 2010, 07:23:14 PM
p. 54 in Katharine McDonogh's  REIGNING CATS AND DOGS:

In 1915 Nicholas II thought to take advantage of Joy being photographed with Alexei and wrote to Alexandra the following:
>>How charming Alexei's photos are, the one standing ought to be sold as postcards-- both might be really---pleased, be done with Baby, also, for the public and then we can send them to the soldiers.<<   >>..Fredericks asked my opinion, whether to permit that cinema of Baby and Joy can be allowed to be shown in public; not having seen it, I cannot judge, so leave it to you to decide.  Baby told Mr. Gilliard that it was silly to see him 'faisant des piroutettes' and that the dog looked cleverer than he.<<

Bear, thank you for posting that except. Joy sounds like a typical dog - very funny. I wonder if the footage of Alexei and the dog still exists somewhere, it would be a wonderful gift if it did.

I know that this is a late answer to tatianolishka's question, but that video does exist. I'm trying to find it in the videos I've added to my photobucket account and this is the closest I've come so far. The clip starts at about 1:22.

http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/?action=view&current=Romanovs.mp4 (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/?action=view&current=Romanovs.mp4)

This clip is from Laura Mabee's website, Frozentears.org.

The video clip Nicholas was talking about is the one where Alexei is twirling on the ice while Joy is nearby, hence Alexei's embarrassment over the "piroutettes."
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: CorisCapnSkip on September 13, 2018, 06:17:46 PM
Too bad the copies of my favorite picture (of Alexei holding Joy and the cat) seem to be newspaper quality.

Today I came across these better versions (possibly different sizes of the same image):

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c4/5c/d9/c45cd9008e7312852647959445fbf4ec.jpg)

(http://siberiantimes.com/PICTURES/OTHERS/Joy-Royal-dog/2.jpg)

(https://communismblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/prince-alexei-romanov-family-russia-murdered-communists-eastern-europe-people-history.jpg)

Getty Images also has one, watermarked of course.

Also, after looking at hundreds of photographs, this one is the closest I have found of what I wanted of Alexei and Joy.  I had never seen it before.

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/c9/51/6b/c9516b508f6c4e46bc40577c8f9c8c69.jpg)
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: CorisCapnSkip on September 13, 2018, 07:51:48 PM
Today I came across these better versions (possibly different sizes of the same image):

They are as the same scratch across the face can be seen in all three copies.
Title: Re: Alexei and his spaniel Joy
Post by: PAGE on September 14, 2018, 04:15:24 AM
Very nice photography. I did not know the last one. Very pleasant.