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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Olga Nicholaievna => Topic started by: ferngully on April 29, 2005, 12:09:12 PM

Title: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: ferngully on April 29, 2005, 12:09:12 PM
could i ask what olga's regiment was and are there any pics of her in the uniform?
selina                  xxxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: IlyaBorisovich on April 29, 2005, 01:19:11 PM
Olga's regiment was the 3rd Hussars.  They had sky blue uniforms, I believe.  I'm at work right now, but when I get home later tonight I can post a colorized postcard of Olga on a horse reviewing her regiment.  You can sometimes find this card if you do an ebay search for "Grand Duchess Olga."

Hope this helps

Ilya
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Lanie on April 29, 2005, 01:44:27 PM
There are lots of pictures of Olga in uniform.  The tunic was sky blue with gold braiding and the pants (in her case, skirt) was a dark red.  
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: ferngully on April 29, 2005, 03:41:57 PM
okie, thanks very much for the info, i'm off to look around :)
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Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: IlyaBorisovich on April 30, 2005, 08:29:05 AM
Ferngully,

I uploaded my image of the postcard to my photobucket account last night, but I couldn't get it to post here.  If you're still interested in seeing it, I'll send you the virtual link in a PM.

Ilya
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: ferngully on April 30, 2005, 01:32:54 PM
sent you a grateful pm ilya ;)
selina             xxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Michelle on June 10, 2005, 07:48:07 PM
Are there any pictures of Olga in her regimental uniform where she's standing alone?  What I mean is, are there any like this:

(http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/laniemashkaregimentals.jpg)

This is Maria by the way.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Lanie on June 10, 2005, 08:35:41 PM
I have a few.  There are some of her on horseback and two from the set with Tatiana of her alone.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Michelle on June 11, 2005, 07:54:18 PM
Thanks Lanie.  Can you post them?  I'd really appreciate it.  :)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Michelle on June 12, 2005, 12:12:51 AM
Lanie uploaded some for me.  Thanks, Lanie! :D

(http://www.livadia.org/trw/olgauniform/olgahussars.jpg)

(http://www.livadia.org/trw/olgauniform/olgauniform.jpg)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: ferngully on June 12, 2005, 07:07:24 AM
looking smart ;D
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Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: pinklady on June 12, 2005, 07:39:30 AM
I can really see the resemblance to Nicholas in the last photo of Olga.
It is a  beautiful picture of her.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Michelle on June 12, 2005, 04:04:30 PM
Yes, her face looks absolutely beautiful in that last pic.  And she wears that uniform so well.  Her figure is so thin and she manages to look so wonderfully feminine.  In the pictures of her on the horse reviewing the regiment the uniform just flows so daintily on her.  Gorgeous!
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_sofia on June 13, 2005, 01:52:00 PM
i love her gloves! Theyre my favourite bit of that outfit,
sopsxx
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Michelle on June 14, 2005, 01:19:33 PM
I love her gloves too! :D  They're great!
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_sofia on June 15, 2005, 10:35:56 AM
I've always wanted to wear gloves like that but i've never had an outfit to put them with!
sopsxx
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Margarita Markovna on June 18, 2005, 10:58:11 AM
For Halloween I was a grand duchess and wore awesome gloves! I also had a great tiara (which is still sitting on my bookcase). Dressing like OTMA is so much fun!
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_sofia on June 18, 2005, 12:56:40 PM
Margarita, that is a such a cool idea! did you go as any particular grand duchess?
sopsxx :)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Yoyo on August 03, 2005, 07:34:03 PM
 :o I have never seen that big picture of Olga in uniform before. It is absolutely wonderful. Has one of the  geniuses on this board already colored it (like Maria's)? This almost computer illiterate board member would really appreciate if one of you guys colored and posted it.
Yoyo
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: RealAnastasia on August 03, 2005, 07:36:25 PM
Why, Yoyo! I'm also an illiterated in all computer skills!

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 03, 2005, 08:39:14 PM
Margarita, which GD were you? I was Olga two years ago for Halloween. My grandma made my costume after I showed her some pics of Olga.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Margarita Markovna on August 03, 2005, 09:30:17 PM
Tatiana. I look like her. I realize it's historically innacurate though to have a tiara, but whatever.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Margarita Markovna on August 03, 2005, 10:04:44 PM
(http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/olgahorse.jpg)

By the way, here's the picture of her on the horse.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: DeAnochka on August 05, 2005, 01:50:52 AM
I was amazed when I saw Olga and Tatiana's Regimental Uniforms at the Newark exhibit of "At Home with the Last Tsar and His Family." I tried to look for a picture of their uniforms today. Does anybody have one? I swear, I just looked through the entire Hermitage Museum website and couldn't find one!

Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchessella on August 05, 2005, 09:39:44 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/romanov/husuniform.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/romanov/olgasuniform0if5bk1.png)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Robby on August 05, 2005, 09:41:24 AM
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(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/romanov/husuniform.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/romanov/olgasuniform0if5bk1.png)

Thanks GranduchessesElla, the look great, i taught you can find them too on Lanie's sitehttp://www.livadia.org/trw
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: DeAnochka on August 05, 2005, 11:53:49 PM
Thanks grandduchessella!
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: sailor_of_standart on September 01, 2005, 11:55:59 PM
In the colored photographs of the uniforms whose was whose? They are love in color.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: sailor_of_standart on September 02, 2005, 12:12:41 AM
Here is some more pics of Olga in Regimential uniform.
;D  :D

(http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/olgaregimentalsposed.jpg)
Who are the ladies with Olga.

(http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/olgaregiment.jpg)

(http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/bigpairuniforms2.jpg) the back of Olga and Tatiana in uniform

(http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/nickyot.jpg) with Nicky
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: nerdycool on September 02, 2005, 01:56:04 AM
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In the colored photographs of the uniforms whose was whose? They are love in color.

The light blue one with the red skirt was Olga's. The navy uniform with yellow was Tatiana's. I should note, too, that the hats pictured with the uniforms weren't used on the Grand Duchesses. They had different hats as you can see on the other pics.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on September 03, 2005, 01:00:16 PM
what is the point of a Regiment?
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on September 03, 2005, 01:01:42 PM
was olga in the blue uniform?
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Ortino on September 03, 2005, 01:43:41 PM
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what is the point of a Regiment?


Regiments are comprised of soldiers who fight battles, wars, etc. like any army. The purpose of having one? Mainly honorary I suppose. I guess it's a status thing, demonstrating the Czar and his family's leadership and power.

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was olga in the blue uniform?


Both she and Tatiana had blue uniforms. Olga's was light blue with a red skirt, Tatiana's, navy with yellow.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on September 04, 2005, 01:39:35 PM
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Regiments are comprised of soldiers who fight battles, wars, etc. like any army. The purpose of having one? Mainly honorary I suppose. I guess it's a status thing, demonstrating the Czar and his family's leadership and power.


 Both she and Tatiana had blue uniforms. Olga's was light blue with a red skirt, Tatiana's, navy with yellow.


thank you. i'm still puzzled i mean like so a group of people fight for the imperial family. and each of the family has a group of soldgers.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Georgiy on September 04, 2005, 04:16:55 PM
Why do a group of people fight for the President of the US? Or anyone for that matter?

It's not that they had their own personal group of soldiers, but that certain regiments were named in honour of (for example) GD Olga or whoever - sometimes even Christ. Preobrazhenny which was one corps means Transfiguration, which is a big feast in the Orthodox Church. i am sure that every army in every country has regiments named after or in honour of people or events connected to that country.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Janet_W. on September 04, 2005, 06:02:21 PM
Royals must earn their keep by fulfilling public assignments, plus it would have been an honor--even, perhaps, a morale-builder--for a regiment to be overseen and sponsored by a member of the royal family. Even today ceremonial sponsorship is scheduled into the duties of many royals, presidents, and prime ministers.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: matushka on September 05, 2005, 07:26:20 AM
It is perhaps out of thema, but here is a modern avatar of the Hussard`s uniform.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/DSCF0349.jpg
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: sailor_of_standart on September 05, 2005, 08:20:05 PM
That is so cool.  Matuska.  The hats look identical to Olga's regimental hat.  Although the musuem photos don't have the same hats with the uniforms.  I also have to say that Tatiana's hat looked quiet ugly.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on September 06, 2005, 07:27:50 AM
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Why do a group of people fight for the President of the US? Or anyone for that matter?

It's not that they had their own personal group of soldiers, but that certain regiments were named in honour of (for example) GD Olga or whoever - sometimes even Christ. Preobrazhenny which was one corps means Transfiguration, which is a big feast in the Orthodox Church. i am sure that every army in every country has regiments named after or in honour of people or events connected to that country.


thank you i understand perfectly now.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Sarushka on September 07, 2005, 07:22:19 PM
Olga (seated at center) with her regiment, 5 August, 1913:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/scan0021.jpg)
(from Nicholas II, by Marvin Lyons)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: sailor_of_standart on September 08, 2005, 12:07:19 AM
I am still surprised that those guards in Hesse or were ever it is wearing the same regimental helement as Olga.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Margarita Markovna on September 08, 2005, 01:18:55 PM
Hmm...if they were the same rank I guess they would wear the same helmet...;)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on September 08, 2005, 04:35:13 PM
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Hmm...if they were the same rank I guess they would wear the same helmet...;)


thats probly what it means. i'm shure they did the acact thing.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: sailor_of_standart on September 08, 2005, 08:18:51 PM
I mean in the modern picture. The hats look identical to olga's hat.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Lauren on September 28, 2005, 05:15:00 PM
I read that Olga and Tatiana were assigned a regiment of soldiers to inspect, and I read the topic "regiment" already discussing the names of the regiments. If anyone knows more about their duties in the military and what this job was like for them, please post here!
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Linnea on October 23, 2005, 10:23:40 AM
Tatjana and Olga
(http://img112.exs.cx/img112/9374/19112so.jpg)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on October 23, 2005, 04:20:43 PM
why is tatiana dressed up? did they have them the same day?
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Aliss_Kande on October 23, 2005, 04:24:29 PM
I believe they did have their pictures on the same day.  I've seen plenty of other regimentals where they are both together.  I don't remember which website I saw them on though.  There are a couple colored ones in the having fun thread (under old threads on other pages).
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: julia.montague on October 24, 2005, 04:38:17 AM
maybe they just dressed up for the photos ;)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: matushka on October 24, 2005, 05:58:59 AM
Some pictures are of 1910, but most of them are of 5 august 1913.  Were taken in Peterhof. See the Nicolas' diary about this day.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on October 25, 2005, 05:03:00 PM
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I believe they did have their pictures on the same day.  I've seen plenty of other regimentals where they are both together.  I don't remember which website I saw them on though.  There are a couple colored ones in the having fun thread (under old threads on other pages).


o ok just their pictures, not their actual regiment right?
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Aliss_Kande on October 26, 2005, 07:53:04 PM

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o ok just their pictures, not their actual regiment right?


I always assumed all the pictures where they're in uniform were taken on the same day.  If anyone can prove me wrong, fine, but that's what I think.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Sarushka on January 11, 2006, 08:20:18 AM
Sailor_of_Standart posted this earlier, but nobody answered the question:
Who are the women Olga is posing with?

(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1620/olgainregimentalswithunknownwo.th.jpg) (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=olgainregimentalswithunknownwo.jpg)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 13, 2006, 04:10:49 PM
no idea... but she doesn't look to happy about it.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Antie on January 16, 2006, 08:18:34 AM
Aw, she should be smiling!  I think that she has the best "hat" in that picture!
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Jack_Johnson on January 16, 2006, 09:33:15 PM
How come Maria, Olga, and Tatiana all had regimental uniforms, but Anastasia didn't? Was she just too young?
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 17, 2006, 07:28:52 PM
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How come Maria, Olga, and Tatiana all had regimental uniforms, but Anastasia didn't? Was she just too young?


Nastya had her regiment... but there were no pictures taken. it was during the war and i think thats why they didn't. there was only one picture of it, and that was a picture of her medal. i'll post it if you like.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Jack_Johnson on January 17, 2006, 09:56:06 PM
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Nastya had her regiment... but there were no pictures taken. it was during the war and i think thats why they didn't. there was only one picture of it, and that was a picture of her medal. i'll post it if you like.


I'd love to see it! Thank you!
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 18, 2006, 04:00:25 PM
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I'd love to see it! Thank you!


i have the link at home... i'm at my mom's scool right now so. when i get home i'll post it for you OK :)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 19, 2006, 07:20:02 AM
there it is ;D
(http://www.panhistoria.com/Stacks/Novels/Character_Homes/homedirs/772images/anabadge.jpg)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Jack_Johnson on January 19, 2006, 11:42:43 AM
That's very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to post her medal.  :)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 19, 2006, 04:54:36 PM
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That's very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to post her medal.  :)


oh your welcome... it was no trouble at all
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: David_Pritchard on February 08, 2006, 01:47:00 PM
A pdf file containing a hand tinted photograph of a mounted and uniformed Grand Duchess Olga and her father, Emperor Nikolai II, reveiwing the hussars can be seen at this link: http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/pdf/olga.pdf The photograph was published in 1914.

David
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: David_Pritchard on February 08, 2006, 01:54:42 PM
An authographed image of Grand Duchesses Olga and Tatiana in their regimental uniforms as Colonels-in-Chief. This photograph was probably taken on the same day as a few of the others that appear in this thread of discussion.

(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/4365/776zw.jpg)

David
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: David_Pritchard on February 08, 2006, 02:05:08 PM
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there it is ;D
(http://www.panhistoria.com/Stacks/Novels/Character_Homes/homedirs/772images/anabadge.jpg)


This is the regimental badge of the Her Imperial Highness Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna's Own 148th Caspian Infantry Regiment. This regimental badge was authorised for use on 13 December 1911.

David
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 09, 2006, 05:18:25 PM
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A pdf file containing a hand tinted photograph of a mounted and uniformed Grand Duchess Olga and her father, Emperor Nikolai II, reveiwing the hussars can be seen at this link: http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/pdf/olga.pdf The photograph was published in 1914.

David


there is a fulpicture of that. i'll get it if you like.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Natalya on June 23, 2006, 10:24:20 AM
At last year's exhibit "At Home with the Last Tsar" I had the opportunity to see Tatiana's regiment uniform in person.  I was amazed to 1) be actually looking at the dress I have seen her photographed in so many times and 2) to find that the uniform has stood the test of time in PERFECT condition.  It looks like it was just created in our own time!  I was wondering if anyone knows if Olga's regimental uniform has survived, and if it is on display anywhere (in Russia) or perhaps stored away in some museum to be brought out later.  It would be an incredible experience to see both uniforms (of the Elisabethgrad Hussar and the Vosnessensky Lancer Regiments) on display together.

Here's some photos of the girls in their uniforms ...

(http://cheddarbay.com/0000Romanov/regimenta.jpg)

(http://cheddarbay.com/0000Romanov/regimentb.jpg)

(http://cheddarbay.com/0000Romanov/regimentc.jpg)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Sarushka on June 24, 2006, 04:00:18 PM
Olga's uniform has indeed survived. I know Lanie once posted a photo of it on Livadia.org or The Romanov Web, but I don't have the link here. When I get home tonight, I will post the photo itself.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Sarushka on June 24, 2006, 06:58:59 PM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Art%20and%20Letters/th_Olgauniform.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Art%20and%20Letters/Olgauniform.jpg)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Natalya on June 24, 2006, 11:19:31 PM
Thank you!  It looks as new as Tatiana's.  I'd love to see this one day.  I wonder if it's on display somewhere in Russia?
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: s.v.markov on June 25, 2006, 09:09:50 AM
The picture Sarushka has posted shows the C-in-C's uniform of HIH GD Olga Nicolaevna's 3rd Elizavetgradsky Hussars Regiment, and it is fully described and illustrated (together with Tatiana's and many other ceremonial uniforms) in the catalogue of the State Hermitage Museum, which I am looking at now. Apparently it was acquired from the Alexander Palace in 1941 and is now at The Hermitage (though frequently 'on tour'). Olga became C-in-C of the regiment on July 11th, 1909. She is mentioned in the regimental song :

We Hussars are not of foil,
We are all of damask steel,
How we value Olga's name,
Our white cloaks and our flag of fame!

(Source, State Hermitage Catalogue, 1998, pages 192/193)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Kurt Steiner on February 06, 2007, 03:28:25 AM
thank you. i'm still puzzled i mean like so a group of people fight for the imperial family. and each of the family has a group of soldgers.

IRRC, it all comes from the Middle Ages, when each king/queen needed a corps of loyal soldiers to protect him or her from their enemies. Just for instance, Harold II had his own guard with him at Hastings, 1066, and all of them died aroudn him to protect him in the final debacle, once William broke through his lines.

Oh, by the way, my great grand-father was a member of the Halberdiers of the Royal Guard of Alfonso XIII of Spain.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: blessOTMA on October 23, 2009, 10:30:10 PM
I read that Olga reviewed her Regiment on Aug 5th 1913. I am currently reading her 1913 diary and so I excitedly turned to this date.
She describes it wonderfully. A funny thing is in the past, when I have seen  photos of her on her horse with her uniform, I would think the horse's name  was one of those  little facts that seem to get lost to history .  So I was delighted to find Olga indeed recorded his name! Fun! She also explains the diffrent group photos one has seen of this event.

At 10:30 the two of us in uniforms went to the training grounds. We rode on horses: I rode on Regent, T[atiana] on Robino. Uncle Nikolasha rode with me to my regiment. Martynov met me with a report. Then I galloped to the trumpet players, greeted each squadron and met Papa on the right flank. Then I followed him around the front again. I was so nervous about the  entrance, but it turned out OK. The parade was nice and beautiful. My great Yelisavetgardsky regiment marched very well. After breakfast talked on the balcony and took group pictures with Papa and my officers in front of the big palace. Then took pictures with the regiment ladies. It's very sad that Mama could not be here. At 3:30 both regiments came to our garden. Mama was sitting in the carriage with Alexi. The singers were singing nice songs as the regiment marched by. Papa and we saw them to the gate and regiment marched past Papa for the last time.The hussars and officers are so sweet, although I don't know them, but still. They presented me with an album picturing the best views of Olga's headquarters. I liked the lieutenant colonel and Sultan Trei most of all. Had dinner with Mama and aunt, had tea with them as well with Papa and Dmitri. There was an  Austrian dinner. Attened vespers. Aunt left at 10 , we saw her off to the station. Heard the regimental march and singing from afar--such sweethearts . They really pleased us. it's very hot today it was 34 in the sun in the morning at Kransnoe Selo.  I'm so incredibly happy with today!!!


Here is film footage of this very review.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-si1gMtPNM&feature=channel#movie_player

You can often pick out Olga because her horse, Regent,  has two white back feet . Both she and Tatiana were remarkable horse women, side saddle no less.  It seems that the girls wore the uniforms at other times, but this was the one time  there was a full scale review. Olga mentions her great uncle Nikolasha riding  with her to her regiment, and in the film you can see him with her and looking out for her. Tatiana reviewed her regiment  that day as well . You can see them ride up behind their father and smile at each other at 3:40 on the right hand side of the screen. Of course the film is from the fabulous  tashusik!

Enjoy!
 
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Andreas1066 on February 11, 2010, 03:07:47 AM
Nice photos of the uniforms.

Would I be right in thinking that those are side-saddle aprons rather than actual long skirts?  (For those who don't know: A side-saddle apron is basically a long wrap-around piece of cloth that is worn over breeches and tall riding boots.  There's a picture of a modern example at: http://www.bespokecountryclothing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/photo07_4_320x480.jpg)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2010, 12:31:31 PM
Interesting conjecture, but I think this photo proves otherwise:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/th_otuniforms6back.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/?action=view&current=otuniforms6back.jpg)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Nicolá De Valerón on April 11, 2010, 07:58:11 PM
Here is a detailed, absolutely real and corrected from the Schenk (Schenk made a plenty of mistakes) by Kuznetsov (according to the official Imperial Russian Military laws) uniform's illustrations of Olga Nicholaevna, Tatiana Nicholaevna and Maria Nicholaevna Regiments. I decided to post all of them here on Olga's thread, in order not to "clutter up" all the threads. Maybe it will be helpful for those who colorize pictures with their uniform, make paintings with them and so on, in order to make the works at least more close to reality.

Anastasia Nicholaevna's 148th Caspian Infantry Regiment, as a hundreds of typical Infantry Regiments, has the familiar colours and design to all non-guards Russian Infantry. You can find a plenty of different Infantry Regiments pics in internet. But anyway, here is an example of similar by design (only with Alexander III sign on epaulets), of 145th Novocherkassk Infantry Regiment.

1. 3rd Hussar's Elizavetgrad of HIM GD Olga Nicholaevna Regiment.
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4962/olg.jpg) (http://img249.imageshack.us/i/olg.jpg/)

2. 8th Ulhan's Voznesensk of HIM GD Tatiana Nicholaevna Regiment.
(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4963/tatw.jpg) (http://img180.imageshack.us/i/tatw.jpg/)

3. 9th Dragoon's Kazan of HIM GD Maria Nicholaevna Regiment.
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5460/marxb.jpg) (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/marxb.jpg/)

4. 145th Novocherkassk Infantry Regiment (design similar to original Anastasia Regiment).
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5271/anasf.jpg) (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/anasf.jpg/)


*Taken from the helpful Kuznetsov tables. Thanks to author and his great work in absentia;).
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: blessOTMA on April 11, 2010, 09:02:56 PM
Thank you Nicolá! You are a marvel!
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Sarushka on April 11, 2010, 10:03:02 PM
Terrific post, Nicola. Would you please also cut and paste that information into this thread: OTMA's regiments (http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=10530.0). It would be an excellent reference there as well.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Coldstream on July 09, 2010, 05:24:30 PM
The photograph depicting a rear view of the uniforms was printed reversed.  Tatiana's pouch belt ought to be over the left shoulder and the plume on her czapska (Uhlan cap) ought to be on the left.  The busby bag of Olga's busby ought to hang from the right side as correctly illustrated by other photographs.  The caps shown in the color photograph of the uniforms are undress caps worn when not in full dress uniform (e.g. without the busby or pelisse).  There is a painting by a famous French military artist, Edouard Detaille, depicting Nicholas II at the head of the Life Guard Hussar Regiment while on maneuvers wearing the regimental full dress scarlet uniform with the peaked forage (undress) cap.  The enlisted men are wearing the peakless EM's forage cap.

Coldstream
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: blessOTMA on July 09, 2010, 07:59:50 PM
Coldstream, Thank you for your post ! Reversed photos are a pet peeve of mine. Military uniform are a great help in knowing whether a photo is reversed or not....when one knows how they should look , as plainly, you do.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on July 23, 2010, 08:32:35 PM
I didn't know Nastya had uniform too! I've never seen a photo of her in uniform, does it exist??
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Tasia on July 24, 2010, 03:43:04 PM
I didn't know Nastya had uniform too! I've never seen a photo of her in uniform, does it exist??
Well, we don't know!
Holly thinks that when Nastya get her regiment it was occuring the first world war (1914-1918), so her father didn't get any pics of her and her uniform!
EDIT: But maybe there's one picture. Who knows!!
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Lady Nikolaievna on July 24, 2010, 03:47:15 PM
Oh, too bad we don't know; I'd love to see her in uniform. :)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: blessOTMA on July 24, 2010, 04:51:12 PM
I don't think it's rare, but I haven't seen this one much. Scanned a nice size
  (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Olga%20Nikolaevna/th_regfrombook.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Olga%20Nikolaevna/?action=view&current=regfrombook.jpg)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: voyageroffreedom on April 11, 2011, 04:53:04 AM
Olga uniform:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Olga/th_olgauniform.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Olga/?action=view&current=olgauniform.jpg)
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: blessOTMA on April 11, 2011, 06:20:40 AM
 VOF! Wow that is gorgeous ! Thank you! It's a  deeper blue than is usually seen . The gold braiding is amazing
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on April 11, 2011, 01:46:48 PM
Beautiful, simply beautiful! The colors are so rich!!
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: RealAnastasia on April 11, 2011, 11:31:02 PM
How amazing! I wish I could have seen Olga in this wonderful uniform. It would fit perfectly to her face.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: blessOTMA on April 11, 2011, 11:55:41 PM
How amazing! I wish I could have seen Olga in this wonderful uniform. It would fit perfectly to her face.

RealAnastasia.
True! The way they have positioned it though, is better than usual. One can see Olga in this somewhat. The stance is similar. But I just can't imagine seeing her dressed in this  amazing uniform with all her decorations, her gold hair and blue eyes  in the sunshine...it must of been dazzling . The peaked cap was part of her kit...but I've never seen a photo of her wearing it...only the dress hat ...which looks like bear skin
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: blessOTMA on September 07, 2011, 03:46:46 AM
http://olginshtab.narod.ru/11.jpg
http://olginshtab.narod.ru/photo.jpg
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Kalafrana on September 07, 2011, 04:01:36 AM
Olga's regiment were hussars, so she wore their headdress, which is a fur cap known in English usage as a busby. A bearskin (worn here by the Foot Guards) is quite a bit taller.

If you google for pictures of the King's Troop, Royal Horse Artillery, you will find busbies (and hussar-type full dress though without the pelisse).

Ann
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: blessOTMA on September 07, 2011, 04:19:53 AM
Thanks, Ann I was wondering if the fur used on Olga's  Hussars headdress was also bear ...it would be interesting to know what type of fur was used. Are you saying size of the headdress  dictates what fur is used and bear would not be used for a Hussar's headdress ?
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Kalafrana on September 07, 2011, 04:39:29 AM
I'm not an expert on the subject, but I think hussar headdress is also bear fur. Guards bearskins are made from the hide of the Canadian black bear, but I think most hussar regiments wear brown busbies.

Fusilier regiments in the British Army wear fur headdress which is similar in shape to a Guards bearskin, but lower and with a badge on the front, but they are made of sealskin and look quite different.

Incidentally, as Colonel in Chief of the Royal Scots Greys Nicholas II also wore a bearskin - the Grey, and their successors the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, are the only cavalry to wear bearskins.

Ann
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: blessOTMA on November 22, 2011, 09:39:43 PM
Page dedicated to Olga's Hussars...with terrific photos

http://olginshtab.narod.ru/index.html
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: Dru on April 01, 2012, 10:59:37 AM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7260/7035395741_a1be4bbc9b_b.jpg)

Olga in white Hussar's uniform--a little different from her usual blue jacket.  Download for full size.
Title: Re: Olga's Regiment and Military Duties
Post by: blessOTMA on April 01, 2012, 11:28:58 AM
Thank you Dru!  =) I couldn't open this file on my computer. I love how painterly it is