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Title: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on May 02, 2005, 02:11:55 PM
I'm searching for picture's of

- Marie Therese, Infanta of Portugal and Princess of Braganca

- Marie José, Infanta of Portugal and Princess of Braganca

- Maria Anna, Infanta of Portugal and Princess of Braganca

- Maria Antonia, Infanta of Portugal and Princess of Braganca

BTW:
I know their pictures on www.royaltyguide.nl and www.worldroots.com

Thanks ...

Marie Charlotte
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Grand Duke on May 02, 2005, 04:49:45 PM
Marie Charlotte

can you please put their birth and death dates!

Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on May 03, 2005, 03:05:37 AM
Dear Grand Duke,

I'm sorry, here they are:

Marie Therese (1855-1944), married to Karl Ludwig, Archduke of Austria

Marie José (1857-1943), married to Carl Theodor, Duke in Bavaria

Maria Anna (1861-1942) married to Guillaume IV, Grand Duke of Luxembourg

Maria Antonia (1862-1959), married to Robert, Duke of Parma and Empress Zita's mother

Thanks for the picture of Marie José. I have a postcard of it.

Marie Charlotte
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: LORENZO on May 17, 2005, 06:52:00 AM
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/LORENZ1977/KARLTHEODORMARIAJOSE.gif)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: grandduchessella on May 17, 2005, 08:28:13 PM
Karl-Theodor and Marie Jose had several children including the sad Princess Marie-Gabrielle (who married Crown Prince Rupprecht of Bavaria) and Queen Elisabeth of Belgium the much-loved consort of Albert I. Elisabeth's daughter, named Marie-Jose like her grandmother, became the last Queen of Italy as the consort of Umberto II.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: cimbrio on May 19, 2005, 06:22:57 AM
Why Sad Princess Marie-Gabrielle, Ella? I know she died young, perhaps in childbirth, is that why you said sad? He remarried afterwards, so...was it a love match or perhaps an arranged wedding?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: grandduchessella on May 19, 2005, 03:26:43 PM
I say sad because she suffered so many maternal tragedies and then died so young (age 34). Her marriage seemed to be happy enough. Rupprecht didn't remarry for almost a decade and then married her cousin Antonia of Luxemburg, 30 years his junior (yet he would outlive her as well).

By Marie Gabrielle he had:
 
1) Luitpold (who died at age 13; 2 yrs after his mother)
2) Irmingard (1902-1903; her only daughter)
3) Albrecht
4) Rudolf Friedrich Rupprecht (1909-1912)

I think she was already ill but it was the death of this 2nd child (and her youngest) which caused her to basically lose her will to live. Thankfully she wouldn't see the death of her eldest son.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Marc on June 09, 2005, 07:09:33 PM
Does anyone have some more info about King Miguel I of Portugal and his wife Princess Amelia von Loewenstein?Their children?Are there any good pictures or portraits of this branch of the family?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Grand Duke on June 10, 2005, 09:33:07 AM
D. Miguel

(http://www.arqnet.pt/imagens/phmiguel.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Grand Duke on June 10, 2005, 11:29:24 AM
Miguel of Portugal

(http://www.iac-azores.org/agenda/2007/imagens/d_miguel.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Annushka on July 01, 2005, 11:52:56 AM
Is anyone familiar with this?  I believe his name was Miguel and he was married to Winifred Seyburn who was the granddaughter of John Dodge, one of the founders of the Dodge Motor Company which is now Daimler Chrysler.  I also think they had a son together.  This was probably in the 1940's-1950's.


Holly
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: umigon on July 01, 2005, 12:02:40 PM

Yes, John Miguel de Braganza (1912-1991) married Winifred Dodge Seyburn (1917-) in 1948. They were divorced in 1953 two years after the birth of their only son, Michael William de Braganza, who married Barbara Haliburton Fales (1955-) in 1980. They have three children together: Miguel Samuel (1986-), Annabel Barbara (1989-) and Camilla Fales (1990-).


John Miguel, great grandson of deposed King Miguel I of Portugal, married Katherine King (1931-) in 1971, 18 years after his divorce from Winifred. There were no children born to this marriage.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: umigon on July 01, 2005, 12:08:20 PM

I nearly forget about it!!


John Miguel is not a prince of Braganza, he just descends of royalty, as many people do. His father, prince Miguel renounced to his rights in 1920, after 11 years of marriage to the commoner Anita Stewart. Although the renounce was made because of the morganatic nature of his marriage, I don't know why it was done so late. but what is sure is that Mr. De Braganza is not a prince.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Annushka on July 01, 2005, 12:17:13 PM
That's interesting, Umigon.  The book that I was reading described him as the Pretender to the Portuguese throne.  I guess that sounded better than  "kind of royal".

Holly
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: umigon on July 01, 2005, 12:20:59 PM


Of course he can be a pretender, as much as Maria Pia of Braganza, a supposed illegitimate daughter of King Carlos was a pretender... but following the House Laws, his claim is not a good one, being son of a morganatic marriage of a prince who renounced to his succesion rights. Both of his marriages have been morganatic and exactly the same for his son's marriage...

I think the current Duke of Braganza (King Edward III of Portugal for royalists...) has a better claim than both John Miguel and his family and the late Maria Pia and hers... From my point of view even the Orleans-Braganza would have a much better claim...
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Marlene on July 02, 2005, 09:06:49 PM
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I nearly forget about it!!


John Miguel is not a prince of Braganza, he just descends of royalty, as many people do. His father, prince Miguel renounced to his rights in 1920, after 11 years of marriage to the commoner Anita Stewart. Although the renounce was made because of the morganatic nature of his marriage, I don't know why it was done so late. but what is sure is that Mr. De Braganza is not a prince.



Miguel and Anita's marriage was not morganatic - she was styled HRH during the marriage.  If I recall, the reason for the late announcement was to pass the line to the other branch.  The family lived in the USA, and the children were Americans - and had careers.  It was a decision to exclude the American line.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: umigon on July 03, 2005, 06:43:40 AM


Oh! sorry, I didn't know about that. But then, if the marriage was not morganatic, the children born to Anita and Michael (Elisabeth Nada, John Miguel and Michael Luis) would have to have renounced, as their father did, to their rights. I mean, when their father renounced, they had already been born, so it was illegal for Prince Miguel to renounce in their name.


As far as I know, none of his children have officially renounced. And regarding Portugal's marriage laws, that marriage would have been morganatic, as Anita does not belong to a House considered equal for the Royal House of Portugal. Where can we found more information about this??
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: jackie3 on July 03, 2005, 01:39:36 PM
Not only were the marriages morganatic but I believe these American Braganzas are Episcopalian, not Catholic, so would be inelgible under the old House Laws. Besides the present Duke, Dom Duarte, is highly respected both in Portgual and among other royals/nobility and has 2 young sons so the point of other possible "claimants" is mute anyway.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Marlene on July 04, 2005, 02:12:43 PM

There was quite a lot of news coverage about this famiily when Anita married and afterward.  From what I understand an agreement was reached to have the line pass to Duarte Pio's line (which was previously excluded) because the American branch was not interested.  They were far more American than Portuguese.

Nada was a troubled young woman who took her own life.

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Oh! sorry, I didn't know about that. But then, if the marriage was not morganatic, the children born to Anita and Michael (Elisabeth Nada, John Miguel and Michael Luis) would have to have renounced, as their father did, to their rights. I mean, when their father renounced, they had already been born, so it was illegal for Prince Miguel to renounce in their name.


As far as I know, none of his children have officially renounced. And regarding Portugal's marriage laws, that marriage would have been morganatic, as Anita does not belong to a House considered equal for the Royal House of Portugal. Where can we found more information about this??

Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: umigon on July 05, 2005, 03:48:14 AM


But when Duarte received the title of Head of the House from his brother, he had no line whatsoever. He was just thirteen!!! I don't think that the son of a Portuguese prince and a German princess would have been excluded of Sucession in favour of a Portuguese prince and his Northamerican - morganatic- wife!!
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eurohistory on July 09, 2005, 10:38:06 AM
The marriages of Miguel I of Portugal's chldren and grandchildren have been wonderful.  Among his most notable descendants are: Archduke Heir Otto fo Austria, Queen Anne of Romania, the Duke of Braganca, the Duke of Parma, the Grand Dukes Jean and Henri of Luxembourg and the Fürst of Thurn und Taxis, to name some.

Arturo Beéche
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Prince_Christopher on July 14, 2005, 12:42:21 PM
Children of King Michael of Portugal and Princess Adelaide of Lowenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg:

*Maria das Neves m. Infante Alfonso of Spain, Duque de San Jaime.  No children.
*Michael m. 1.) Princess Elisabeth of Thurn und Taxis. children: Michael and Maria Theresa, m. 2.) Princess Theresa of Lowenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg. children: Isabel, Maria Anna, Duarte (father of present pretender), and Maria Adelaide.
*Maria Theresa m. Archduke Charles Louis of Austria. children: Maria Annunciata and Elisabeth.
*Maria Josepha m. Charles Theodore, Duke in Bavaria. children: Sophie, Elisabeth, Maria Gabriella, Ludwig Wilhelm.
*Maria Anna m. William, Grand Duke of Luxemburg. children: Adelaide, Charlotte, Hilda, Antoinette, Elisabeth, and Sophie.
*Maria Antonia m. Robert, Duke of Parma, as his second wife, and bore him the second dozen of his children, including the future Empress Zita of Austria.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Agneschen on July 22, 2005, 12:48:13 PM
There is a lovely portrait of Queen Adelheid as a young woman in Eduardo Nobre's book Familia Real as well as a picture of her with her husband and 2 eldest children. I am very sorry I have the book but no scanner. Maybe someone else has and could post the pics.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: cimbrio on October 15, 2005, 06:55:01 PM
I wonder what the sisters were like? María de las Nieves seems to me to have posessed a very strong will.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: cimbrio on October 15, 2005, 06:57:40 PM
María Teresa, future Archduchess of Austria-Hungary, wife of Archduke Karl Ludwig.

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/braganza/braganza3/1855%20M.Theresia-02.jpg)

She has a peaceful, somewhat childish look in her eyes... All sisters seem to me to have been very different from one another...
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: cimbrio on October 15, 2005, 06:58:07 PM
María Josefa, Duchess in Bavaria:

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/braganza/braganza3/1857%20M.Josepha.JPG)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: cimbrio on October 15, 2005, 06:59:55 PM
Adelgundes, Countess of Bardi; her husband Enrico was Roberto I of Parma's brother; while Roberto had 24 children (12 with his second wife, her sister), Adelgundes and Enrico never had any children (she is the only one of her siblings not to have had any children of her own).:

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/braganza/braganza3/1858%20Adelgunde-2.JPG)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: cimbrio on October 15, 2005, 07:01:30 PM
María Anna of Luxemburg. There is a thread dedicated to her beautiful daughters in the Benelux section.

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/braganza/braganza3/1861%20Marie%20Anna.JPG)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: cimbrio on October 15, 2005, 07:04:41 PM
María Antonia, duchess of Parma; she had twelve children with her sexually ardent husband, Roberto I of Parma, a VERY rich man who only lacked a land to reign over.

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/braganza/braganza3/1862%20M.Antonia-01.JPG)

She had to become stepmother to her husband's nine children from his first marriage, six of whom were mentally retarded (check Italian section)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: cimbrio on October 15, 2005, 07:08:31 PM
Miguel's sons-in-law:

Alfonso Carlos de Borbón, Duke of San Jaime:

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/bourbon/bbspain2/1849%20Alfonso%20Carlos-04.JPG)


Karl Ludwig, Archduke of Austria-Hungary:

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/habsburg/hbl-lothringen2/1833%20Karl%20Ludwig.JPG)


Karl Theodor of Wittelsbach, Duke in Bavaria:

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/wittelsbach/bavariadukesin/1839%20Karl%20Theodor-03.JPG)


Enrico of Bourbon-Parma, Count of Bardi:

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/bourbon/bbparma2/1851%20Henri%20BBP.jpg)


Willem IV of Luxemburg, Grand Duke of Luxemburg:

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/nassau/luxemburg/1852%20Wilhelm-04.JPG)


Roberto I of Bourbon-Parma, Duke of Parma and Piacenza:

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/bourbon/bbparma2/1848%20Robert-05.JPG)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Prince_Christopher on October 19, 2005, 07:43:35 PM
Does anyone have any pictures or other information on Infanta Maria Antonia of Portugal (1903-1973), dau. of Miguel, Duke of Braganza and his second wife Theresa of Lowenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg?

In 1934, she married American Sidney Ashley Chanler, and they were divorced in 1948.

Did she remarry?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Grand Duke on October 20, 2005, 06:06:46 PM

Wedding: 1934
with: Sidney Ashley Chanler (1907-1994)

Children:
Maria Mafalda Teresa Chanler, born 1935
Anthony Chanler, born 1928
Robert Chanler, born 1941

She didn't remarried.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: David_Pritchard on November 18, 2005, 03:09:47 AM
The present Duke of Bragança is not only the legal heir of the Miguelist Branch but also the last King of Portugal. Through his mother he is a descendent of King Dom Pedro IV of Portugal earlier known as Emperor Dom Pedro I of Brazil.

In 1920, Dom Miguel resigned his dynastic rights in favour of his only son Dom Duarte Nuno by his wife Dona Theresa, daughter of Carl Prince von Lowenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg.

Two years later, in 1922, The Pact of Paris was signed by the representatives of both already married but heirless King Manuel II and Dom Duarte Nuno which resolved the future Headship of the Royal House of Portugal. The Pact of Paris stated:

It has been declared:

A. by the first signatory (for H.M. King Dom Manuel II) that His August Head in default of a direct heir will accept the successor indicated by the general Cortes of the Portuguese nation.

B. Equally he (H.M. King Dom Manuel II) will accept the resolution of the same Cortes as to the political constitution of the restored Monarchy.

C. With the agreement of the Holy See the religious question will be resolved by means of a diploma which is to be submitted to the Cortes.

By the second Signatory (for H.R.H. Dom Duarte Nuno) it was said before the proceeding Declaration His August Head (H.R.H. Dom Duarte Nuno) would ask and recommend to all His supporters that they would accept as King of Portugal Dom Manuel II, and that they would unite loyally under the same Flag that shelters Monarchists. That is the Flag of the Motherland and that Flag shall save Portugal.


In 1927, Dom Miguel died leaving Dom Duarte Nuno as the male heir of King Miguel I. Five years later, King Manuel II died without issue leaving Dom Duarte Nuno as the legitimate Chief of the Royal House of Bragança.

Dom Duarte Nuno married Princess Dona Maria Francisca of Brazil, the daughter of Dom Pedro Prince of Grão Para, in 1942. This union resulted in the birth of three sons: Dom Duarte Pio João Miguel Gabriel Rafael (the present Duke of Bragança), Dom Miguel Rafael Gabriel Xavier Teresia Maria Felix (the present Duke of Viseu) and Dom Henrique Nuno João Miguel (the present Duke of Coimbra). To conform to the Royal House Laws requiring royal princes to be born on Portuguese soil, all three sons were born inside of the Portuguese Embassy in Switzerland. The Royal Family was invited to return to Portugal in 1950 at the request of the benevolent dictator Antonio de Oliveira Salazar who was President of the Council of Ministers of the National Assembly of the Republic of Portugal (the legislative body which replaced the Cortes).

Dom Duarte Nuno died in 1976 leaving his eldest son Dom Duarte Pio João Miguel Gabriel Rafael de Orleans e Bragança as the Chief of the Royal House of Portugal and the Most Serene House Bragança. His godparents at Baptism were His Holiness Pope Pius XII and Her Majesty Queen Amelia, the widow of King Carlos I and mother of King Manuel II.

The full style and titles of Dom Duarte Pio are: His Royal Highness, the Most Serene Lord, Duke of Bragança, of Guimarães and of Barcelos, Marquis of Vila Viçosa, Count of Arraiolos, of Ourém, of Barcelos, of Faria, of Neiva and of Guimarães, Sovereign of the Royal Order of Saint Isabel, Grand Master of the Order of Our Lady of Conception of Vila Viçosa and Grand Master by Birth of the Order of Saint Michael of the Wing and Judge of the Royal Brotherhood of Saint Michael of the Wing.

David
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Bernardino on December 29, 2005, 04:06:34 PM
Hello  :)

Does anyone know where are buried Dom Miguel II and his wives?

Have they been brought to Portugal?

Thank you
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on January 03, 2006, 02:29:26 PM
No, I am quite sure they are not buried in Portugal.

My guess is that they might be buried either with the Thurn und Taxis or the Loewensteins.

I am also looking for the burial places of D.Miguel II's second son, Infante D. Francisco José who died as PoW in Italy in 1919, and his two half-sisters Infanta D. Mafalda (d. Vienna 1918) and Infanta D. Maria Benedita (d. Seebenstein 1971).

Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Bernardino on January 08, 2006, 11:01:20 AM
In Dom Miguel I's children we see an interesting phenomenon, which had already happened to his mother Queen Carlota Joaquina...

Carlota Joaquina's older children were rather ugly (Maria Teresa, Maria Isabel, Pedro I-IV, Maria Francisca and Isabel Maria) while the younger were quite handsome (Miguel I, Maria da Assunção and Anna de Jesus Maria)...Maria da Assunção was the prettiest of them all...This led to rumors of a supposed infidelity of their mother...I believe Carlota was not politically loyal  to her husband, but everything else it's nonsense...

Dom Miguel I's children were all handsome...But two youngest (Maria Anna and Maria Antonia) were uglier...

In my opinion Maria José was the most beautiful of them all...'die schönste Frau in Bayern'... :)

Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on January 09, 2006, 03:38:20 PM
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No, I am quite sure they are not buried in Portugal.

My guess is that they might be buried either with the Thurn und Taxis or the Loewensteins.

I am also looking for the burial places of D.Miguel II's second son, Infante D. Francisco José who died as PoW in Italy in 1919, and his two half-sisters Infanta D. Mafalda (d. Vienna 1918) and Infanta D. Maria Benedita (d. Seebenstein 1971).



I got this answer at the Franco Iberian MBoard:

a. D.Miguel II .......Kloster Mariä Himmelfahrt, Bronnbach, Germany
b. Elizabeth Thurn und Taxis.....Kloster Engelberg near Kleinheubach, Germany
c. Maria Theresa Loewenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg..
Kloster- und Wahlfahrtskirche Hl. Familie, Vienna XIX (Döbling)
(this the the same church to which Empress Zita had the last Bourbons of France transferred to from Castagnevizza in 1917 and where they remained until 1932)
d. Infanta D. Mafalda .........Kloster- und Wahlfahrtskirche Hl. Familie, Vienna XIX (Döbling)
e Infanta D. Maria Benedita......Seebenstein community cemetery
f. Infante D. Francisco José........Kloster Mariä Himmelfahrt, Bronnbach, Germany
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on February 04, 2006, 01:42:52 PM
One of the tasks a king has is to perpetuate his family and genes and to produce an heir.

King D.Miguel I was effectively THE king of Portugal from 1828-1834.
Yet, I could not find any trace of a marriage prospect during his reign.
And at the time many countries were as conservative as Portugal  ;).
Did the other countries consider his reign a high-risk one and didn't want to "sacrifice" a princess to what eventually happened when he lost his throne  :'(.

As far as I know, the only princess that wanted to marry him  :-* was Ludovika of Bavaria, but her father the king forbade and married her to Duke Max  :(.
(Bavaria wasn't exactly a model of liberal state).
But there were never any deals concerning the marriage.

Did D.Miguel had any feelings for Ludovika ?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Bernardino on February 04, 2006, 06:13:19 PM
I believe that at the time, though on opposite fields of battle, King Miguel I was still legally bonded to marry his niece Queen Maria II...Only after he was defeated the contract was annulled...

But still there is the story that Ludovika wanted to become the Queen of Portugal...
If Miguel had remained on the throne I believe he would have not married Maria anyway...Which geneticaly would have been (and was) a good thing...
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on February 12, 2006, 12:26:22 PM
I read (but in which book? ???) that Ludovica and Miguel met in Vienna, where the Princess and her mother Queen Caroline visited Sophie, Archduchess of Austria.
As soon as it was possible, Miguel sent a minister or somebody like that to Munich in order to ask for permission to marry Ludovica. But she has been already engaged to Max - we know the rest of the story.

But I think it was a stroke of fate that Miguel's daughter Marie José married Ludovica's son Carl Theodor.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Bernardino on February 15, 2006, 08:03:20 AM
And Miguel I's son (Miguel II) also married a Ludovica's gd-daughter  :D : Pssn Elisabeth von Thurn u. Taxis (his 1st wife)...
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Bernardino on June 10, 2006, 08:42:52 PM
Hello  :)

Does anyone have pictures of HRH Duchess Maria Francisca de Bragança, née Pss de Orleans e Bragança- the mother of the current Duke of Bragança-?

Thank you in advance
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on June 14, 2006, 05:19:49 PM
You will find some pictures of D.Maria Francisca in Malcolm Howe's "The Braganza Story - A visit to the Royal Pantheon of Portugal"
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on September 24, 2006, 11:08:14 AM
Hello!

I need pictures of the 3 children of Miguel and Elisabeth.
The name are Francisco Jose, Maria Teresa and Miguel Maximiliano.
It would be very nice, if you could help me!  :-* :-*

Bye!
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eurohistory on September 30, 2006, 10:53:39 AM
I always thought it a pity these boys were unable to leave behind dynastic descendants, thus continuing the Braganza's dangerous genetic roulette of too few male heirs.

Arturo Beéche
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Danjel on October 06, 2006, 04:42:20 PM
Miguel (1853-1927) married 1st Prss Elisabeht von Thurn und Taxis (1860-1881)
                                       2nd Prss Marie Therese zu Lowenstin-Wertheim-Rosenberg( 1870-1935)

Children from his 1st marriage:
1. Miguel (1878-1923), married Anita Stewart
2. Fransisco (1879-1919)
3. Maria Theresa (1881-1945) married Prce Karl Anton von Thurn und Taxis

Children from 2nd marriage
4. Isabel (1894-1970) married Furst Franz Josefvon Thurn und Taxis
5. Maria Benedita (1896-1971)
6. Mafalda (1898-1918)
7. Maria Ana (1899-1971) married Fürst Karl August von Thurn und Taxis
8. Maria Antónia (1903-1973) married Ahley Chanler
9. Filippa (1905-1990)
10 Duarte Nuno (1907-1976) married Maria Francisca Pss of Orleans-Bragança
11 Maria Adelaide (1912) married Nicholaas van Uden


Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Khristeanna on November 04, 2006, 04:00:21 PM
Hello all  :)

I would like to know more about Infanta D. Maria Adelaide de Bragança, i know that she was born on 31-01-1912, her parents name and her children name, but i would like to know something about her and about her life... (sorry if this is already posted, i look for something about her here and i didnt found almost anything...)

Thanks*************
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on November 04, 2006, 07:35:20 PM
Infanta D. Maria Adelaide was the youngest child from D.Miguel (II) and his second wife Pss. Maria Theresa de Loewenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg.
She was born in Saint-Jean-de-Luz in France where her father had gone for an interview with his cousin the recent exiled king D.Manuel II and try to unite the two branches of the Bragança to restore the Monarchy.
The interview came to nothing ... except for the fact that D.Manuel and his Mother Queen D. Amélia accepted to be the child's god-parents.
The Infanta was a bit of a tomboy and she definitely preferred to play with her brother D.Duarte Nuno rather than with her sisters due to the gap age.
Her first years ran smoothly between Austria, Liechtenstein and Bronnbach, the home palace of the Loewensteins.
When war broke, things changed rather suddenly.
Her Father and her elder brothers were serving in the Army and her Mother was left alone with the 8 children.
The family suffered many difficulties during this period and, in  a recent interview, the Infanta told how she longed for her Father's visits every odd week-end.
Not only could she be with him, but he always carried a large provision of cookies for his horse that D.Maria Adelaide and D.Duarte "stole" as sometimes there was not much to eat.
After the war the family was once again reunited (or what's left of it as her sister Infanta D.Mafalda died in 1918 and her half-brother Infante D. Francisco José died a POW in 1919) but they no longer lived with the aisance of previous times.
D. Maria Adelaide and D. Duarte found a "part-time job" by acting as tourist guides to the people who came to visit Bronnbach.
Apparently they were very good and explained everything they knew - as part of the family- and invented what they didn't, for the great amusement of tourists.
When their Mother discovered she ordered them to stop immediately.
One of their pranks consisted on climbing the church tower and advance or retard the clock and watch the people very confused about Mass time.
Those happy times passed quicky and soon came WW2.
The Infanta had studied for Nurse and worked hard in a Vienna Hospital.
She had lots of friends among the resistance and even communists.
One of these, once gave her name under torture, and the Gestapo was going to arrest her but she was told that in advance and could escape.
On another occasion she was arrested with her sister D.Maria Benedita , their crime being they had been listening to the BBC. D.Duarte was also persecuted but he managed to escape.
When the news arrive in Portugal, P.M. Salazar wrote to Hitler a vigourous letter saying it was intolerable that two princesses from a neutral country were under arrest and soon they were released.
BTW I just finished reading a book about the correspondence between Salazar and Queen D. Amélia and apparently Salazar contributed to the release of the Infanta's Thurn und Taxis brothers-in-law who were also under arrest and there had been already a death order to one of them.
After the war the Infanta met her husband, a dutch doctor, they got married and a few years later they settled in Portugal.
There was some curiosity from the Portuguese society about the Infanta, as there hasn't been one for almost one century.
She was constantly invited to teas and parties, but that was nothing she appreciated.
After the war years working in a Hospital, she tried to do some social work with the poors of a small town in front of Lisbon which shocked some of the establishment.
She got the nickname "The Red Infanta" which she claimed she was very proud of.
Due to her age, she only attends family reunions, like D.Duarte's wedding, the Infante's christenings, some birtdays, and she lives very retired, with her family.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Khristeanna on November 05, 2006, 02:36:58 PM
Thank you so much!!!*****************  ;D

Just by curiosity, do you know the name of that small city in front of Lisbon where she worked?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on November 06, 2006, 10:31:16 AM
Not exactly a city, but a small fishing village: Trafaria
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on November 06, 2006, 06:59:29 PM
Do you live / have lived in Portugal ??? ?

Trafaria is not exactly a touristic zone although close to one of the most frequented beaches south of Lisbon, Costa da Caparica  8).
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Khristeanna on November 07, 2006, 02:54:03 PM
Yes i live in Portugal  :) in a town near Lisbon too, thats why i asked you about the name of that town  ;D
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Marie Valerie on November 13, 2006, 09:03:31 AM
 (*3rd April 1831; +16th December 1909)

 married in 1851 Miguel I de Portugal



Any Informations about their marriage?

Any Infos about the Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenbergs?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on November 14, 2006, 08:49:40 AM
Dear Marie Valérie,

Adelheid Sophie Amélie Louise Johanna Leopoldine was born at Kleinheubach on April 3rd 1831 and died at the Abbaye Sainte Cécile, Apley, Isle of Wight on December 14th 1909. She was the eldest child of Constantin Hereditary Prince zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg (1802-1838) and his wife Marie Agnes Henriette Princess zu Hohenlohe-Langenburg (1804-1835). As her parents died very young, Adelheid was an orphan when she was only seven years old.

Adelheid Sophie had a younger brother Karl (1834-1921) who married Adelheid Princess zu Isenburg-Büdingen in Birstein (1841-1861), but Adelheid died two weeks after she had given birth to her fisrt child Maria Anna (1861-1896). Karl's second wife was Sophie Princess of Liechtenstein (1837-1899). She was mother of eight children, five daughters and three sons.

Adelheid Sophie herself married Miguel, Infant of Portugal, Duque de Braganza (1802-1866) - let's call him Miguel I. - at kleinheubach on September 24th 1851. The couple had seven children: Maria das Neves (1852-1941), Miguel (1853-1927), Maria Teresa (1855-1944), Marie José (1857-1943), Adelgunde (1858-1946), Maria Anna (1861-1942) and Maria Antonia (1862-1959).

Adelheid was Queen of Portugal, but she has never set foot in that country. Her family had to live in exile, that's why she stayed with her Löwenstein relatives at Kleinheubach and Bronnbach.

The Löwensteins are also known for being very pious. A lot of them were nuns or monks. After Karl's second wife had died in 1899, he decided to become a a member of the Dominican order Trans Cedron at Venloo in August 1907. He was called Raymund Maria since then. His daughter Franziska was a nun, too. Oh, and just think of Adelheid Sophie's granddaughters Adelheid, Maria Antonia and Francesca of Bourbon-Parma (daughters of Infanta Maria Anna and sisters of empress Zita) who all became nuns!
Adelheid herself also lived with nuns at the Isle of Wight in the last years of her life. But I'm not sure if she became a nun, too.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rebecca on November 20, 2006, 02:21:51 PM
Adelheid became a nun in 1897.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Bernardino on December 15, 2006, 03:51:47 PM
I know the Löwensteins were very Catholic, but apparently open to inter-religious marriages...

Duchess Adelaide's mother was the short-lived Hereditary Princess Marie Agnes Henriette, née Princess zu Hohenlohe-Langenburg...a Protestant family isn´t it?

So I wonder if Pss Agnes was Protestant or did she convert to Catholicism?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on January 30, 2007, 05:43:37 PM
Infanta D.Maria Adelaide will celebrate her 95th birthday tomorrow Jan.31st.
She is one of the Gotha's doyennes and of the less young  ::) still alive.
Incredible to realize that her grand-father King D.Miguel was born in 1802, so a span of 205 years has passed  :)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on May 07, 2007, 12:17:53 PM
Has anyone any info on D.Isabel Maria de Bragança a.k.a. Elizabeth Nada of Braganza, eldest daughter of D.Miguel, duke of Viseu and Anita Stewart ?
All I have is her birth and death dates, name of husbands and son, and the fact that she comitted suicide in London in 1946.
Any info and pictures would be very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on May 08, 2007, 10:22:23 AM
Dear Danjel

Thanks for the photo. I had never seen any of D.Isabel Maria.
Do you have any additional info on her, her husbands and son ?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on May 29, 2007, 01:14:51 PM
Any info or pics about her brothers Michael and John of Braganza, american citizens ?
I know one was an air pilot, not sure which ?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Norbert on December 23, 2007, 07:29:24 PM
Thanks for the photo. I had never seen any of D.Isabel Maria.
Do you have any additional info on her, her husbands and son ?

Apparently she was known as Nada ( Nadejda being one of her christian names). Her first husband was Russian and they married in Cyprus. Second husband was a Lt. Free French Navy. She jumped to her death from a hotel window in London. She had a son and a granddaughter Tatiana born 1966.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Norbert on December 23, 2007, 07:39:48 PM
Any info or pics about her brothers Michael and John of Braganza, american citizens ?
I know one was an air pilot, not sure which ?

brothers  1)John died 1991 lived in long Island married twice and left a son Michael born 1951 and two grand daughters. 2) miguel called michael the pilot died palm beach 1996 and married twice and left two daughters Anita born 1947 Mrs John Stckbridge ( son and dau by !st marriage to George Wardman) Michele born 1953.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: beladona on August 15, 2008, 11:54:55 AM
Danjel,
your pictures are great! Do you have a whole picture of Braganza sisters from which are the small pictures of Mafalda, Benedita and Isabel derived?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Kaiserin Sissi on August 16, 2008, 10:16:40 AM
In the the book " les secrets de Mayerling" de Jean des Cars, the autor talk about Migel of Bragança who is promise to Mary Vetsera at the time she met Rodolphe. But who is "this" Miguel of Bragança ? Can you help me ? In the Same book JdC tell that is the brother of Archduchess Marie-Thérése, but "this" Miguel was married to Elisabeth of Thurn and Taxis and after is death with Thérése of Lowenstein... that is possible ?

Thank for your help ans sorry for my bad english.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on August 16, 2008, 01:48:01 PM
In the the book " les secrets de Mayerling" de Jean des Cars, the autor talk about Migel of Bragança who is promise to Mary Vetsera at the time she met Rodolphe. But who is "this" Miguel of Bragança ? Can you help me ? In the Same book JdC tell that is the brother of Archduchess Marie-Thérése, but "this" Miguel was married to Elisabeth of Thurn and Taxis and after is death with Thérése of Lowenstein... that is possible ?

Yes, this is possible. Miguel (1853-1927), son of Miguel I. (1802-1866) and Adelheid von Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg (1831-1909), married Elisabeth of Thurn und Taxis - a niece of Empress Elisabeth of Austria, by the way - in 1877. 3 1/2 years later - in 1881 - , Elisabeth died shortly after she had given birth to her daughter Maria Teresa. This means, Miguel was a widower until November 1893, when he married his second wife Marie Therese.

There would have been enough time for him to marry Mary Vetsera - but we all know that this didn't happen.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: REMI on August 17, 2008, 10:32:59 AM
I did not read the book of M. Jean des Cars which you are talking about. But I guess it is a novel. The authors of historical novels may allow themselves to everything. They mix fiction and reality and attribute to real personages some adventures totally invented (A l'instar de notre Alexandre Dumas, maître du genre). The Vetsera were too small for nobility that the Head of the House of Bragança thought to marry the little baroness who was only 16 years old and came from Cairo...
Besides, the Vetsera were not received by the Court of Vienna, at the Hofburg Palace...

REMI
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on August 17, 2008, 11:53:29 AM
Of course, there are a lot of authors who invent things. Not in this case. There were indeed rumours that Miguel would marry Mary Vetsera.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: REMI on August 17, 2008, 02:39:04 PM
Sorry, Marie-Charlotte....A historian doesn't take a interest in rumours. Only in facts proved. For me, rumours and inventions are the same thing. As you say, " we all know that this didn't happen..."

REMI
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on August 17, 2008, 03:09:33 PM
I think you didn't understand what I wanted to say. There are a couple of authors who wrote about Miguel's plans concerning this marriage. Even Countess Nora Fugger mentioned it in her memoirs.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: REMI on August 18, 2008, 02:51:33 AM
I think you didn't understand what I wanted to say. There are a couple of authors who wrote about Miguel's plans concerning this marriage. Even Countess Nora Fugger mentioned it in her memoirs.

I didn't understand what you said ? But you did write that "there were indeed rumours..."
History and gossiping of parlour-maid don't live happily together.

REMI
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: trentk80 on August 18, 2008, 10:33:24 AM
The authors of historical novels may allow themselves to everything. They mix fiction and reality and attribute to real personages some adventures totally invented.

Not only authors of historical novels but, unfortunately, some authors of historical books sometimes also do it. For instance, recently I had the opportunity to meet a royal author - I'm not going to tell the name - and pointed out some inaccurate things I found in a book this person wrote. The author (who is an historian, not a novelist) didn't seem to care and I was a bit surprised when I heard the reply: "Nevermind. I'm an author so I'm allowed to write whatever I want."
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: REMI on August 18, 2008, 01:53:51 PM
I agree with you. The  probem is that too many historians rely in memoirs of famous people who give counterfeited versions of reality.
Marie Charlotte, in her message of June 18  2006, said herself about Nora Fugger whom she was referring to yesterday:"...she wrote about little scandals in the Imperial Family.Nora loved gossips.
I think that the Fugger is also hardly credile than the Walersee Larish who has written anything and accumulated enormous lies.... 

REMI
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Svetabel on August 19, 2008, 12:31:57 AM
The authors of historical novels may allow themselves to everything. They mix fiction and reality and attribute to real personages some adventures totally invented.

I was a bit surprised when I heard the reply: "Nevermind. I'm an author so I'm allowed to write whatever I want."

So I'd say the person is not a true historian but a novelist in fact as a true historian is always accurate with the facts. Surely such historians with clean opinions and critical mind are a rare find.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on August 19, 2008, 11:10:37 AM
REMI, I just wanted to say that "Kaiserin Sissi's" question about Miguel and Mary Vetsera was justified. I have 300 books about the Habsburgs and I read repeatedly about the fact that Miguel felt attracted to Mary. Nora Fugger wasn't a good example - my fault -, but also other authors wrote about them. Vienna's society loved gossip and that's why it isn't surprising that some people thought of a possible marriage. Of course, we don't know Miguel's real opinion about it. So there aren't any historical facts (but I knew that before you listened me to reason ...) -  Marie
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: REMI on August 19, 2008, 03:08:05 PM
Dear Marie-Charlotte. I suppose many men in Vienna in 1888 were attracted by the Vetsera...Not only Miguel de Bragança. Her mother was trying to find evrywhere a husband for her daughter and the Wallersee acted as a pimp....Miguel might have fallen in love with this little Mary. Why not? But to consider a marriage with her, there is an abyss. Don't forget, Miguel was the Head of the House of Bragança.

REMI
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on August 21, 2008, 09:22:08 AM
Dear Marie-Charlotte. I suppose many men in Vienna in 1888 were attracted by the Vetsera...Not only Miguel de Bragança. Her mother was trying to find evrywhere a husband for her daughter and the Wallersee acted as a pimp....Miguel might have fallen in love with this little Mary. Why not? But to consider a marriage with her, there is an abyss. Don't forget, Miguel was the Head of the House of Bragança.

REMI

Yes, I agree. Have a nice day, REMI. :-)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Mari on August 21, 2008, 11:20:09 PM
Anyone have any images of Miguel with wife  or Mary with Husband? :)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Svetabel on August 22, 2008, 12:27:41 AM
Mary with Husband? :)

But Mary died unmarried, in Mayerling with Crownprince Rudolf.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Mari on August 24, 2008, 01:32:21 AM
Yes, I finally had enough time to do a little research and found her Picture. Very Pretty!  I had forgotten much of what I had read about her as it had been years and that She had been the famous Mistress....  However I wonder if anyone has read this Gerd Holler,  (1980) book Mayerling: Die Lösung des Rätsels! It covers the mystery of her Death as apparently there was some. I apologize if this is OT! However since the door has been opened....
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on September 20, 2008, 01:35:11 PM
The story about D.Miguel and Mary Vetsera was true.

After his first wife's death D.Miguel asked ADss Maria-Valeria hand but she turned him down (in a not very pleasant way) and choosed to marry her cousin Franz Salvator.

D.Miguel was heartbroken and then he met Maria Vetsera who was already Rudolph's mistress.

I read that the Habsburgs were very delighted with such a marriage, imagining that Rudolph would forget her.
Infanta D.Maria Teresa and her sisters were completely against for obvious reasons.

As to the fact that he was the head of the House of Bragança and she was a mere daughter of a baron, one may not forget that D.Miguel already had two sons and a daughter by his first wife and thought that the succession matter was dealt.

History would proove him wrong as the eldest son D.Miguel renounced his rights to marry Anita Stewart and D.Francisco never got married and died a PoW.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on September 20, 2008, 03:10:48 PM
Very good articles about the two sons of Miguel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Miguel_of_Braganza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Francis_Joseph_of_Braganza


Francis was very off-hand :)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on November 01, 2008, 10:49:42 AM
Maria de las Nieves wrote a book about her life: "MIS MEMORIAS: SOBRE NUESTRA CAMPAÑA EN CATALUÑA EN 1872 Y 1873 Y EN EL CENTRO EN 1874".
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 01, 2008, 12:57:22 PM
Is the book still available ?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on November 01, 2008, 01:01:50 PM
Is the book still available ?


I found it on http://www.unilibro.es/find_buy_es/product.asp?sku=421819&idaff=0
But I think it´s not available anymore.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 01, 2008, 01:04:42 PM
Was it an out of print book ?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on November 01, 2008, 01:22:01 PM
Was it an out of print book ?

No, it was from a website. On http://www.requetes.com/index.html

Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Jose II on January 07, 2009, 01:04:15 PM
I once asked for a photo of Kar-Ludwig of Thurn und Taxis to fill the gap in my own archive.

Now I just need one of the Invisible man: Count Douglas, Queen Augusta Viktoria's 2nd husband.

The man seemed to be alergyc to photos.

Not a single one of him can be traced.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Paola on January 08, 2009, 07:07:19 AM
Were Miguel, Franz Joseph and Maria Theresa close to their grandmother Helene of Thurn und Taxis? Any pictures? They were after all her only grandchildren. Her son Albert married only after Helene died.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on January 08, 2009, 12:12:39 PM
Informations about Helene are really rare.
I know that Maria Teresa had a good relationship to Helenes son Albert (who was her uncle) and married in St. emmeram Karl Ludwig.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Paola on January 27, 2009, 11:15:54 AM
Informations about Helene are really rare.
I know that Maria Teresa had a good relationship to Helenes son Albert (who was her uncle) and married in St. emmeram Karl Ludwig.

I wonder why is it so difficult information about Helene. Some embarrassing stories perhaps?? ;)  I heard the access to the archives is also extremely difficult.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 27, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Yes...especially the supposed attachment of Helene with a priest in her later years. Not exactly "The Thorn Birds" kind of situation.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on January 27, 2009, 11:40:45 AM
Helene was a Wittelsbach. I don´t believe that her life was so boring. There are no dairies or many letters. But Helene wrote a lot in her life, that´s strange.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Paola on January 27, 2009, 11:55:20 AM
Helene was a Wittelsbach. I don´t believe that her life was so boring. There are no dairies or many letters. But Helene wrote a lot in her life, that´s strange.

Indeed. When one sees the romantic lives of her sisters..... ;) maybe Helene asked all her correspondence and diaries to be burned after her death.

I didn't know about the attachament of Helene to a priest. Where did you read it?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 27, 2009, 12:20:56 PM
It was well known in Regensburg at the time and people did comment on it. It was included in a German book on the Houseo f Thurn & Taxis...
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Paola on January 27, 2009, 12:34:05 PM
I see. Do you mean the book on Thurn und Taxis by Martha Schad?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 27, 2009, 02:10:56 PM
No the one with a portrait of Johanes, Gloria and her children...
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Paola on January 28, 2009, 12:48:29 AM
Ok. I always thought Helene to be so reserve and not so the type of any affairs like her sisters. But with such secrecy around her life one thinks  why....
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: beladona on February 10, 2009, 04:07:00 PM
Any chance of a good picture of Infanta D. Filipa ?  ::)

Infanta Filippa remains invisible...
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Jose II on March 03, 2009, 12:38:58 PM
Birthday girl today.

Isn't she cute ?

http://www.geneall.net/P/per_page.php?id=356753
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Amelio on March 31, 2009, 04:07:07 AM
Fellow posters: there never was a Duke Miguel II in Portuguese history, I'm sorry. This person is only ex-prince Miguel's son, who was Austrian and forever banned from Portuguese soil. No «II» here, please.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Amelio on March 31, 2009, 04:11:11 AM
Again, let me tell everyone abroad that there is no Miguel II in Portugal's history. The person the anti-democracy absolutists call so is only the son of a banned prince who once usurpated the throne of his elder brother. That second Miguel never visited Portugal in his life.Only a few hundereds of people still fight to make believe there ever was a Miguel II. But they have been quite active in this forum  ;)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Amelio on March 31, 2009, 04:22:11 AM
Who would want to marry a traitor who betrayed his own elder brother by usurpating his throne. He was known all over Europe as «the tyran from Portugal» by the time he sat on his stolen throne. Just look at the prints and papers from that period.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on March 31, 2009, 08:40:51 AM
Amelio, why do you repeat yourself? We all know your opinion.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Paola on April 02, 2009, 02:22:12 AM
Hello  :)

Does anyone know where are buried Dom Miguel II and his wives?

Have they been brought to Portugal?

Thank you


His first wife Elisabeth Thurn und Taxis is buried in Kloster Engelberg near Kleinheubach, Germany. It is a beautiful peaceful place on the top of a hill. I wonder why she was buried there? And why D. Miguel and his second wife are not buried there too?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Paola on April 03, 2009, 06:45:39 AM
Kloster Engelberg near Kleinheubach is the family crypt of the  Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg. This was the family of Miguel's mother and second wife. I don't know why his first wife should be buried there. Miguel was not buried there but in Kloster Maria Himmelfahrt, Bronnbach.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Jose II on April 07, 2009, 06:05:39 PM
Who would want to marry a traitor who betrayed his own elder brother by usurpating his throne. He was known all over Europe as «the tyran from Portugal» by the time he sat on his stolen throne.



Nothing like his beloved brother D.Pedro, the traitor who usurpated the crown from his own father , right ?

Nor the man who could not find any wife at any european court, where all doors shut at him after the news of his behaviour with his wife reach Europe, right ?

The man who took part or quietly witnessed the assassination of his wife Emperess D.Leopoldina by his own mistress, right ?

A true Angel :-)





Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Jose II on April 07, 2009, 06:39:05 PM
That second Miguel never visited Portugal in his life.Only a few hundereds of people still fight to make believe there ever was a Miguel II. But they have been quite active in this forum  ;)

You should take care of what you say or you will make a fool of yourself.

The Liberator D.Pedro, who had already usurpated the brazilian throne from his father and became a foreign citizen, after being banned from the country he usurpated, decides the tropical air is not good for his health and chooses to come home, the land of his forefathers.

Unfortunately the throne of Portugal is occupied by his brother D.Miguel, so why not start a ravaging civil war and ruin even more the country after the pilliage the french and the english have done ?

D.Pedro wins the civil war and his brother, the rightful king D.Miguel, is sent to exile.

Just like that ? No ! D.Pedro offers D.Miguel a law stating that anybody is entitled to kill him or any of his descendants yet to be born, should he ever enters Portugal again.

Not the police or the army, but any citizen like you or me.

In spite of that, some authors refer that even so, there was a private and secret meeting at Mafra Palace between D.Miguel and D.Pedro V.

Does that make D.Pedro V a traitor for not shooting his uncle :-o ?

As to D.Miguel II, he also visited Portugal more than once.
There is that very wellknown episode when he arrived in Lisbon with his sister Infanta D.Aldegundes and her husband Enrico de Borbon-Parma, duke of Bardi, on the latter's yacht Adelgonda
The couple visited Lisbon, quite discretely, although the Home Office knew of their presence and alerted  King D.Luis, who did nothing.

D.Miguel, his sister and his brother-in-law, decided to go to the São Carlos Theater, where they were recognized.
In  a very subtle way, the Home Office advised them to leave the country.

So, jeopardising his life, D.Miguel II DID VISIT PORTUGAL.

Do your homework before spilling your poison ;-)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Terence on April 08, 2009, 12:14:24 AM
Who would want to marry a traitor who betrayed his own elder brother by usurpating his throne. He was known all over Europe as «the tyran from Portugal» by the time he sat on his stolen throne.



Nothing like his beloved brother D.Pedro, the traitor who usurpated the crown from his own father , right ?

Nor the man who could not find any wife at any european court, where all doors shut at him after the news of his behaviour with his wife reach Europe, right ?

The man who took part or quietly witnessed the assassination of his wife Emperess D.Leopoldina by his own mistress, right ?

A true Angel :-)
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Could you clarify what this is about?

Thanks,
T
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Jose II on April 08, 2009, 10:56:54 AM


D.Pedro had made his mistress Domitilia de Castro better known as the Marchioness of Santos a lady of the Court attending his wife the Emperess.

Emperess Leopoldina was preagnant of what would be her 8th child.

One day, there was a huge row between the arrogant Domitilia and the Emperess which ended in physical violence between the two women.
D.Pedro was present and there are two versions of his behaviour.
Some say he was quite amused watching the two women fighting, the other says he took Domitilia's side and also hit Leopoldina.

In the end, D.Leopoldina, severely hurt, fell down which caused her a miscarriage and, shortly after, she died.

Domitilia thought that after D.Leopoldina's death, D.Pedro would marry her, and that she would became the Emperess, but for her fury, her lover ended their relation

Two articles from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_I_of_Brazil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domitila,_Marchioness_of_Santos
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Duke of New Jersey on April 08, 2009, 02:58:12 PM
Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domitila,_Marchioness_of_Santos

The article on Domitila, Marchioness of Santos was just recently written/edited (in the last week) and has no sources so I don't think you can reference it as a source. 

-Duke of NJ
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Yseult on April 08, 2009, 03:20:09 PM
Frankly, I believe nor Pedro neither Miguel were white doves...
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Zukunftsseele on June 10, 2009, 05:04:29 PM
Does anyone of you have more pictures of Adelgunde? She was truly beautiful. It's so sad she had 9 miscarriages.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Paola on June 14, 2009, 07:05:55 AM
Enrico de Bardi also didn't have children with his first wife, Maria Immacolata of Bourbon Two Sicilies.

Where you read she had 9 miscarriages??  :o
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: MarieCharlotte on June 14, 2009, 11:10:39 AM
Where you read she had 9 miscarriages??

Princess Irmingard von Bayern: "Jugenderinnerungen"
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Paola on June 14, 2009, 01:08:34 PM
I see. :( I thought also something on Count de Bardi's side of the family. Enrico de Bardi also didn't have children in the first marriage. His uncle, Count de Chambord and great uncle duc de Angoulême were also childless.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eurohistory on June 17, 2009, 11:03:33 AM
The Count de Chambord's inability to have offspring most likely stems from a riding accident he had when young.  Certain parts of his body, important for the reproductive system, sustained considerable damage.  The young man was between life and death as a consequence of the accident.

Arturo Beéche
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Jose II on June 22, 2009, 03:59:26 PM
Adelgundes and Enrico never had any children (she is the only one of her siblings not to have had any children of her own).


Infanta D.Maria das Neves and Infante Alfonso Carlos de Borbon didn't have any children either.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Bernardino on June 26, 2009, 08:46:08 AM
By the way, also King Manuel II  of Portugal had no offspring with his wife, Queen Augusta Victoria...does anyone know something about this?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: PrinceEddy1864 on July 03, 2009, 08:50:05 PM
Enrico de Bardi also didn't have children with his first wife, Maria Immacolata of Bourbon Two Sicilies.


Maria Luisa Bourbon-Two Sicilies. Right?


I also would love to see any other images of Adelgunde. I have always thought her to be  the loveliest of the sisters. She was very attractive.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: synnadene on July 04, 2009, 07:15:30 AM

Yes, Maria Luisa, however her real name was Maria Immaculata Luisa, aber we talk about her as Maria Luisa, so we can make out her of her sister Maria Immakulata, the ADss Karl Salvator.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on February 13, 2010, 04:51:37 PM
https://www.ambaile.org.uk/?service=asset&action=show_zoom_window_popup&language=en&asset=21545&location=grid&asset_list=21545&basket_item_id=undefined
wedding of Miguel and Anita
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on May 26, 2010, 11:35:12 AM
When do you consider someone old ?

The Duchess was 43 last November ;-)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on May 27, 2010, 10:10:25 AM
Nope, Infante D. Miguel was 64 last December ;-) .

D.Duarte, duke of Bragança, was 65 on May 15th.
A 21 year gap to his wife born 22.11.1966
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on June 05, 2010, 03:23:11 PM
At 1:16 you can see Miguels daughters Maria Antonia and Mafalda!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whDQfFyoGEE&feature=related
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on July 25, 2010, 08:31:16 AM
Why claimed Manuel the title "Duke de Viseu" for himself? Miguel II. gave this title for his son Miguel after the wedding with Anita Stewart. One other question, was she the Duchesse of Vizeu?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on July 30, 2010, 02:18:54 PM
http://www.ambaile.org.uk/en/item/photograph_zoom.jsp?item_id=867&zoom=2

wedding of Miguel and Anita

I didn´t realized that the woman on the right is Sophie Toerring-Jettenbach. I didn´t know that Sophie and Miguel were so close, that she went to his wedding in Scotland. Or was she the official member for the Bavarian family??
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Zukunftsseele on September 04, 2010, 09:08:04 AM
Are there any more pictures of Miguel I. wife, Adelheid Löwenstein - Wertheim  - Rochefort? She was a pretty lady in my opinion. I saw a picture of her in 'Sisi's Fürstenalbum'.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eutropius on October 14, 2010, 09:05:03 PM
I read a small amount of material about Princess Adelaide of Loewenstein's mother in Letters of Feodora, Princess of Hohenlohe-Langenburg from 1828 to 1827:

Agnes Princess of Loewenstein nee Hohenlohe-Langenburg, died of a fever more than a week after childbirth with "complete presence of mind."  Feodora described her as "very handsome" and amiable.  Constantin Prince of Loewenstein spoke to Feodora about his sadness about the loss of his wife.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on October 15, 2010, 05:48:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9AszAEPxLQ&feature=player_embedded

A march of monarchists with the current Duke and the Duchesse of Braganza.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on October 15, 2010, 06:06:05 PM
Find these caricature

"Battle of the brothers Pedro and Miguel"

(http://historiaaraposo8ano.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/dmariaiidisputa.jpg)

 ;D

I love how they draw the two like children.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on February 02, 2011, 01:52:33 PM
This Monday Jan.31, Infanta D.Maria Adelaide celebrated her 99th birthday.

It is amazing to realize that she is "just" the gr.grand-daughter of King D. João VI (1767-1826) who had to fled to Brazil when napoleonic troops invaded Portugal !

And that her cousin in the same degree was D.Pedro V.


D.João VI --- D.Pedro IV ---  D.Maria II ---- D.Pedro V (1837-61)

D.João VI ---  D.Miguel I ---  D.Miguel II --- D.Maria Adelaide (1912-...)

Some articles and photos of the Infanta:

http://realfamiliaportuguesa.blogspot.com/2008/08/nica-neta-viva-de-um-rei-de-portugal-s.html

http://realfamiliaportuguesa.blogspot.com/2010/02/uma-visita-uma-princesa-radical-dona.html
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Rani on February 05, 2011, 03:43:32 PM
Happy birthday! How exciting to see that a daughter of Duke Miguel is still living :)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on January 31, 2012, 01:18:35 PM
Infanta D. Maria Adelaide celebrates today her 100th birthday.
She is the first Portuguese royal to reach this age, being also the only living grand-daughter of a Portuguese king alive.

This King was of course D.Miguel I, born in 1802, 210 years ago !

The Infanta will receive the Order of Civil Merit by the President of the Republic, for her humanitarian action, in a banquet tonight.

She founded Nun’Álvares Pereira Foundation, dedicated to the more needed, and devoted her life to their help .

The President, for once, had an intelligent gesture, granting her the Order of Merit.

In a note to the Portuguese press agency, he underlined the example of her moral statute, considering her one of the more relevant Portuguese alive.

You don´t have to be front cover on the papers to act as she did.

Several articles:

http://www.ionline.pt/boa-vida/centenario-vida-extraordinaria-d-maria-adelaide-braganca-princesa-portugal

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/familia-celebra-centenario-da-princesa-rebelde

http://forteapache.blogs.sapo.pt/269105.html

http://realfamiliaportuguesa.blogspot.com/2012/01/celebracoes-do-centenario-natalicio-de.html

http://realfamiliaportuguesa.blogspot.com/

http://www.geneall.net/P/forum_msg.php?id=295643&fview=e

http://www2.netmadeira.com/noticias/politica/2012/1/30/cavaco-silva-condecora-terca-feira-adelaide-de-braganca

Newspaper i has an article on the Infanta, with photos of her life.

http://pt-br.facebook.com/pages/Real-Associa%C3%A7%C3%A3o-de-Lisboa/103930608502#!/photo.php?fbid=10150557770293503&set=a.446930563502.243257.103930608502&type=1&theater
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: edubs31 on January 31, 2012, 02:14:55 PM
Wow, nice, quite the feat! Always comforting to have a link back through time from the living themselves!
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Kalafrana on February 01, 2012, 05:51:46 AM
This is very interesting. The lady must also be the oldest-ever person born into royalty.

I hope she is in good health.

Ann
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on February 02, 2012, 02:22:44 PM
Yes, she is.

Among royals by-wedding Infanta D.Maria Adelaide is only surpassed by Q.Elizabeth the Q.Mother and Pss Alice Duchess of Gloucester


http://www.royaltymonarchy.com/royfacts/longlives.html
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 10, 2012, 12:40:27 PM
Elisabeth was the daughter of Max of Thurn & Taxis and Helene (Nene), Duchess in Bavaria.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Veronica on January 28, 2013, 05:12:02 PM
This is Maria Immaculata Luise, countess of Bardi:

(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u501/Patriciavv/MariaImmacolataLuisaofBourbon-TwoSicilies2_zpsed285ef0.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 28, 2013, 06:52:05 PM
Yes. She must be the sister-in-law of Queen Maria Sophia of Naples.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on January 30, 2013, 10:39:34 AM
Henry does had big google eyes...


Hmmm, he is wearing glasses

Henri and Aldegundes visited Lisbon with D.Miguel II at a time the Miguelist line was proscrit.

They came on the Bardi's yacht Adelgonda.

The authorities, as usual, turned a blind eye to the trio, but one night, at the theater, they were recognized and have to leave hastly.

Thank goodness nobody had a gun as, according to the Banning Law, it was perfectly legal for anyone to kill a member of the Miguelist branch.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on August 10, 2013, 07:43:18 PM
Can anybody provide who were the god parents of Infantes D.Miguel and D. Henrique, D.Duarte's brothers ?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: frohsdorf on February 23, 2014, 08:38:43 PM
Looking for information on the last years of Adelgunde, Countess of Bardi.....her husband died in 1905.  Adelgunde was still alive in the 1940s and is buried in Switzerland.  Does anyone have information pertaining to this?  Where is she buried specifically and why is she not with her husband and other Bourbon-Parmas in the crypt at Villa Borbone in Viareggio?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 24, 2014, 05:47:33 PM
It could have had to do with the turmoil of the post-WW2 era. She had lived at Castle of Seebenstein in Austria until the German occupation when the whole family relocated to Bern, Switzerland, where she died in Gunten.

She had kept busy during her widowhood visiting her numerous nieces and nephews and negotiating for her nephew Dom Duarte to be recognized as Manuel's heir and serving as regent for Duarte until he came of age.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on July 21, 2014, 12:04:33 PM
It is a fact that the Miguelist branch of the Braganzas was extremely well connected namely at the Vienese and Bavarian courts.

My question is:

However, D.Miguel Duke of Viseu married the commoner and richissime Anita Stewart.

Was he ever linked to any princess ? Royal or mediatized ?

I bet his Aunts wouldn't have much difficulty in finding a "proper" bride.
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on September 25, 2014, 02:40:31 PM
No candidates for Duke D. Miguel ?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: fialha on September 27, 2014, 04:54:23 AM
Dear Jose II,

I am writing to you in English, not knowing whether you are Portuguese - like myself -, or British or American. I took great interest in your post about the visits of D. Miguel II to Portugal.

You see, I am a writer of historic novels and am at the moment writing on this subject. I am in tru need of more precise information regarding the comings od the duke to Portugal, namely the one he did with his sister Aldegundes and her husband, Enrico de Bourbon-Parma. I would appreciate more detailed data, like dates and whoever they met in here. I will be searching the national files soon, to which dates would be most welcome.

Information on Aldegundes would also be great.

Thank you for your kind attention.

Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on October 28, 2014, 03:31:48 PM
Dear Fialha

So sorry that only today I came across your post.

Yes, as you guessed I am Portuguese and I will be glad to assist on the quest of the visit D.Miguel II and the Bardi's paid to Lisbon.

Unforunately I do not have the book at hand at the moment but I will try to post it later or tomorrow.

The Wikipedia entry on D.Aldegundes was recently updated.

I had no idea she suffered 9 miscarriages which have been so painful for her specially when one realises her sister (married to her husband's brother) gave birth to 12 perfect and healthy children (well, one was deaf but even so).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanta_Adelgundes,_Duchess_of_Guimar%C3%A3es

the article also refers that Bardi suffered a severe injure during the Carlist wars that turned him into an invalid.

D.Aldegundes was extremely devoted to him and took care of her invalid husband, who, apparently, was not very gentle to her.
(Same happened between her sister D.Maria Teresa and her husbnad Carl-Ludwig of Habsburg)

May be the ill treatment she received from her husband was the reason why she choose not to be buried next to him, and of course she died shortly after the end of the war so things might not have been possible if she should other wise.


Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on October 28, 2014, 07:38:30 PM
Dear Jose II,

I am writing to you in English, not knowing whether you are Portuguese - like myself -, or British or American. I took great interest in your post about the visits of D. Miguel II to Portugal.

You see, I am a writer of historic novels and am at the moment writing on this subject. I am in tru need of more precise information regarding the comings od the duke to Portugal, namely the one he did with his sister Aldegundes and her husband, Enrico de Bourbon-Parma. I would appreciate more detailed data, like dates and whoever they met in here. I will be searching the national files soon, to which dates would be most welcome.

Information on Aldegundes would also be great.

Thank you for your kind attention.



"Infanta D.Aldegundes was a lady of sharp intelligence and remarkable education.

She accompanied her husband in the oceanographic investigations he performed, specially in the Mediterranean, on board of their yachts "Sayonara" and "Adelgonda".

The couple toured India, Japan, Australia and the Antilles.

D.Aldegundes visited Portugal several times in a clandestine way due to the Banning Law. Those visits were well known both to the Government and the RF who never started any official proceedings.

In one of her journeys, she used an english passport and posed as her lady-in-waiting's maid.

In 1880 and 1883 she visited Lisbon, in 83 with her husband and brother D.Miguel II.

In 1883 the Count fell suddenly ill and had to come ashore and stay at an hotel in Lisbon. The Government, as usual, ignored their presence, but apparently the RF discretely interested and enquired about the Count's health.

When the Count was already convalescent, D.Aldegundes and D.Miguel II decided to attend São Carlos theater but they were recognized by some spectators and had to abandon the theater and rush out of the country.

In 1911-1912 the Infanta supported moral and finacially the monarchic invasions commanded by Paiva Couceiro, in order to restore the monarchy, travelling to Galicia to help the organization.

When her brother D.Miguel II abdicated his rights on D.Duarte Nuno, D.Aldegundes was appointed political tutoress of her nephew with the role of a Regent, and was then created Duchess of Guimarães.

In her Regent capacity, she negotiated the Pact of Paris in 1922 to rule the dynastic situation due to D.Manuel II lack of successors.

After the outbreak of WW2, she moved from Seebenstein to Switzerland with her nephews.

She expressed the wish to visit Portugal for the Double Centennary Exhibitions of 1940, but due to frail health and advanced age, she could not travel.

She was a Lady of the Starry Cross of Austria and of Honorary Lady of Saint Elisabeth in Bavaria."

From Nobreza de Portugal e do Brasil by Afonso Zuquete.

Hope it will help.

Concerning clandestine trips, there are rumours, never confirmed and scarcely documented that D.Miguel I also visited Portugal after he was forced to exile.

According to these sources he was supposed to have had a secret meeting with his grand-nephew D.Pedro V at Mafra Convent-Palace.

Everything was convenientelly hushed and never reached the public opinion.

D.Pedro V had a particular interest to his uncle whom he felt was ill-treated by his grand-father D.Pedro IV and he pitied the economic conditions D.Miguel and his family had to endure.



Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: fialha on November 23, 2014, 10:57:21 AM
Dear Fialha

So sorry that only today I came across your post.

Yes, as you guessed I am Portuguese and I will be glad to assist on the quest of the visit D.Miguel II and the Bardi's paid to Lisbon.

Unforunately I do not have the book at hand at the moment but I will try to post it later or tomorrow.

The Wikipedia entry on D.Aldegundes was recently updated.

I had no idea she suffered 9 miscarriages which have been so painful for her specially when one realises her sister (married to her husband's brother) gave birth to 12 perfect and healthy children (well, one was deaf but even so).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanta_Adelgundes,_Duchess_of_Guimar%C3%A3es

the article also refers that Bardi suffered a severe injure during the Carlist wars that turned him into an invalid.

D.Aldegundes was extremely devoted to him and took care of her invalid husband, who, apparently, was not very gentle to her.
(Same happened between her sister D.Maria Teresa and her husbnad Carl-Ludwig of Habsburg)

May be the ill treatment she received from her husband was the reason why she choose not to be buried next to him, and of course she died shortly after the end of the war so things might not have been possible if she should other wise.


Thank you so much, José. Yes, it had beem most helpfull.

Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on November 29, 2014, 12:07:17 PM
Can someone help in my search ?

I want to know where (city) were baptized the 2 Infantes sons of the late Duke and Duchess of Braganza D.Duarte Nno and D.Maria Francisca.

And who were the godparents.

D.Duarte Pio's godparents are known: Pope Pius XII and Queen Amélia of Portugal.
However, sometimes a 3rd godparent appears: Pss Adelgonde of Liechtenstein.

But I cannot trace D.Miguel and D.Henrique's godparents.

Due to the friedship between D.Maria Francisca and her sister, the countess of Paris was a possibility.
D.Duarte was very fond of her 2 younger sisters, Infantas D.Filipa and D.Maria Adelaide.
Maybe some austro-german relatives: Liechtenstein, Wittelsbachs, Habsburgs or Thurn und Taxis ?
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on September 18, 2015, 01:38:54 PM
Still no replies ?

If The Braganzas were not such a catholic family, I would bet D,Miguel and D.Henrique were not baptized  ;D   :-[
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on September 18, 2015, 01:48:02 PM
TRH the Duke and Duchess of Braganza attended the wedding of Prínce Franz Clemens d’Altenburg with Countess Eleonore de Toerring-Jettenbach in Andechs this summer.

They were accompannied by their elder children the Prince of Beira and Infanta D.Maria Francisca who turned to be a lovely young woman.

The bride and groom are cousins since Franz Clemens descends from Emperess Elisabeth (Sissi) and Eleonore descends from Sissi's brother Carl-Theodore duke in Bavaria and his wife Infanta D.Maria José de Bragança

http://nucleomonarquicoabrantes.blogspot.pt/2015/09/ssaarr-os-senhores-duques-de-braganca.html

Scroll down for photos of the family and the bride and groom
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on January 21, 2016, 10:53:02 AM
Back to the visit of D.Miguel II and the Count and Countess of Bardi to Portugal, there is a rather comprehensive passage on the book

"As lágrimas da Princesa" by Maria João Fialho Gouveia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFQwUZ1QyvE
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: Nadasearch on May 08, 2016, 12:29:41 PM
I'm trying to research Princess Nadejda (Nada) de Braganza -
 
Sufficiently famous in 1935 to be featured in a UK advertising campaign. She had a book of poetry published in Paris, was married twice, apparently has a bust on display in the Pompidou Centre and her mother Anita was one of the wealthiest titled ladies in America. There are references to Nada's 1946 tragic death falling from a London Hotel but I can find no obituary or newspaper report on her. She had a son by her first husband and was presumably still married to Rene Millet.

Is her overall story and circumstances at the end known? Any clarification gratefully received.

Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on October 04, 2016, 12:59:19 PM
The Duke and Duchess of Braganza, accompannied by their 3 children, attended the wedding of Maria Theresa Martorell Salgado to Nuno Amaral de Freitas.

Maria Thereza is the daughter of Elizabeth d'Orléans-Bragança Martorell and grand daughter of the late Pss Thereza d'Orléabs-Bragança, sister of the Countess of Paris and the Duchess of Bragança.

Her father is Elizabeth's first husband João Espírito Santo Salgado, the younger brother of the former all-mighty banker Ricardo Espírito Santo Salgado.

The wedding took place at the Espírito Santo family private chapel in Cascais.

Among the guests was Pss Hélène of France who can be seen on pic 2 talking to Infante D.Miguel duke of Viseu.

On the 4th row, behind a tall man, one can see the Duke and Duchess of Bragança.

Diana duchess of Cadaval also attended with husband Charles-Philippe Duke of Anjou and little Pss Isabelle.

On pic. 4, Maria Thereza with her father and half-sister Maria do Carmo Martorell Calém acting as bridesmaid.

http://www.vip.pt/maria-salgado-e-nuno-freitas-casamento-de-princesa-em-cascais



Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on October 05, 2016, 07:29:06 AM
Can someone help in my search ?

I want to know where (city) were baptized the 2 Infantes sons of the late Duke and Duchess of Braganza D.Duarte Nno and D.Maria Francisca.

And who were the godparents.

D.Duarte Pio's godparents are known: Pope Pius XII and Queen Amélia of Portugal.
However, sometimes a 3rd godparent appears: Pss Adelgonde of Liechtenstein.

But I cannot trace D.Miguel and D.Henrique's godparents.

Due to the friedship between D.Maria Francisca and her sister, the countess of Paris was a possibility.
D.Duarte was very fond of her 2 younger sisters, Infantas D.Filipa and D.Maria Adelaide.
Maybe some austro-german relatives: Liechtenstein, Wittelsbachs, Habsburgs or Thurn und Taxis ?


Still looking forward for any reply on the Infantes god-parents

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on February 17, 2017, 01:12:29 PM
The Duke of Bragança's sercretariat issued the following statement:

http://realbeiralitoral.blogspot.pt/

The Duke of Bragança's secretariat announces with the deepest regret the death of HH D.Henrique de Bragança, Infante of Portugal and Duke of Coimbra on February the 14th 2017

His urn will arrive at São Vicente de Fora thursday 16.02 followed by a mass at 19.30

On Friday there will be another mass at 10.00 and the corteje will leave for Santar where the Infante will be buried.

According to "O Observador" D.Henrique suffered from cancer .
This source doesn't say where the Prince died but he was in coma in a hospital after a bad fall at home where he suffered a traumatic brain injury.

What a sad end.

My condolences to the RF especially to HRH The Duke of Bragança.

Title: Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
Post by: José on February 17, 2017, 01:13:38 PM
Pictures from yesterday at São Vicente de Fora.

The Duke of Bragança looks extremely shaken by his brother's death.

http://blog_real.blogs.sapo.pt/funeral-do-infante-d-henrique-de-3637187

Infantes D.Diniz and D.Maria Francisca took active part in the readings.

In the last photo, Infante D.Miguel with his nephews and niece