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Title: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: xirbis on June 14, 2005, 09:37:49 PM
 :)greetings!!!

Anybody - please - any links to the Livadia Palace floorplans? It looks great in the pictures - ecpecialy the birds-eye-views. It is difficult to say without having seen the floorpalns (or having visited there) whether the Palace's layout is an extremely simple one or just the opposite -  the maze of inner courtyards, passages etc., a kind of Russian Alhambra. The pictures are confusing...only the actual floorpalns would be able to make it more or less clear.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: BobAtchison on July 04, 2005, 10:15:10 AM
I thought I had one somewhere - I will look...
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: divine_grace on July 04, 2005, 11:05:27 AM
  Mr Bob Atchison, it will really be great if you find it and share it with us.  I do hope you find it. Thank you.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: BobG on July 04, 2005, 02:30:26 PM
I second that!  It would be wonderful to know what the inside of Livadia was like.
Bob,
We'll keep our fingers crossed that you will share them with us.
BobG
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Dominic_Albanese on July 04, 2005, 03:01:54 PM
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I second that!  It would be wonderful to know what the inside of Livadia was like.
Bob,
We'll keep our fingers crossed that you will share them with us.
BobG


Bob - you might do a google search on Livadia - there area lot of pictures on the web of Lividia (and probably on the time machine site as well).

dca
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: divine_grace on July 07, 2005, 02:25:41 PM
Mr. Bob Atchison, any luck finding the livadia palace floorplans? It would be nice to know how it was inside the palace during the last tsar's reign. (I'm sorry if I seem to be rather impatient :-[) Thank you.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 31, 2005, 05:04:14 PM
Oooooooooh, it would be awesome to see the floorplans!
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: BobG on October 24, 2005, 06:49:00 AM
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I thought I had one somewhere - I will look...


Bob,
Any chance that you have found the floorplans?  
We would love to have you share them with us.
Thanks

BobG
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: James1941 on January 10, 2006, 01:17:39 PM
I have been waiting patiently to see if anyone would produce the Livadia Palace floorplans.
Any chance of getting one?
I tried to get the issue of Atlantis Monthly magazine that has an approximate draft of the floorplans, but they didn't answer and have now gone out of business.
I would dearly love to see these floorplans. Help, anyone!
Thanks (this is not meant to be a critical commentary) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Douglas on January 10, 2006, 03:08:51 PM
Does anyone have the floor plans of the Livadia Palace????  

On the website for Livadia there is a phone number but I do not speak Russian or I would have called it.

I have contacted several tour agents in the Ukrane but so far no luck.

I have searched  the web for months but no plans seem to be available.

Several people have said they do have a 'sketch' plan of the palace but so far no one has scanned  and posted.

I even contact Brian, plan master of Imperial Russia, but even he cannot find it so far.

Anyone else have any ideas??

Douglas
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Sarushka on January 24, 2006, 05:00:24 PM
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II tried to get the issue of Atlantis Monthly magazine that has an approximate draft of the floorplans, but they didn't answer and have now gone out of business.

Have you tried getting Penny or Greg by email? Since the magazine's gone out of print, they don't check the Atlantis PO Box very often, but as of August, they did have some back issues available! (Sorry, I don't know which ones -- other than the FOTR special.)
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Alibubba on April 27, 2006, 02:47:32 PM
Hello!
     I have never been in any forum, and I hope I'm doing it right!  I stumbled on this forum by accident, and was thrilled and fascinated!  I had no idea there were folks with the same interests and questions I have!  Anyhow, I have been trying to find the floor plans for the Livadia palace for years with no luck---also for Nicholas and Alexandra's New Palace at Alexandria Peterhof.  Also would be interested to find plans for the Cottage at Peterhof.  Maybe someone has some info, please?
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: gleb on April 28, 2006, 11:45:47 AM
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Hello!
Also would be interested to find plans for the Cottage at Peterhof.  Maybe someone has some info, please?


Somebody posted it already somewhere in the Forum.
You just have to look for it. I am sorry but I don't remember where it was exactly.

Gleb
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Douglas on May 30, 2006, 01:29:35 PM





 Here is a copy of the information about the palace that was given to U. S, Army when Roosevelt visited the palace for his meeting with the Soviet premiere in 1944.


Livadia, the former summer palace of Tsar Nicholas II, is situated 1˝ miles from Yalta. The new, or large palace was finished in 1911. Most of the frescoes, panelling, carved doors, etc., were prepared in St. Petersburg. The palace grounds formerly belonged to Count Potocki who presented them to the Romanov family in the 19th century....

The first floor of the palace was used by Nicholas and his son, Alexai, for living quarters. The left wing, facing the sea, contained the Tsar?s study and bedroom. The President?s private dining room was formerly a billiard room. The large conference room was the ballroom-banquet hall. The Tsar had many bedrooms on the first floor and was wont to sleep in a different room every night, even at times changing his room during the night for fear of assassination....

The second floor was used principally by the Tsarina and her four daughters. General Marshall is occupying the Imperial bedroom and Admiral King the Tsarina?s boudoir. The private outside staircase is said to have been used by Rasputin. The large rooms on the left wing were used by the Tsarevnas (daughters) as classrooms. The second floor conference room was a private reception room of the Tsarina. The second floor dining room was a private sitting room used only by the Tsar?s family.

The architect of the palace, Krasnov, often had to give way to the whims of the Tsar to the detriment, so he thought, of the palace. To avenge himself, he used lion head caricatures of the Tsar as armrests on the two marble benches outside the main door. The similarity becomes striking when a cap is placed atop the lion?s head.

Douglas
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: divine_grace on May 30, 2006, 07:34:44 PM
Thank you for the information Douglas but I have a question. From the information above, Nicholas and Alexandra slept in separate bedrooms in Livadia? I thought they were a close couple because in the Alexander Palace, they slept in the same bedroom.  :-? :-/
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Douglas on May 30, 2006, 10:24:28 PM






Good question.  I guess one can take this information with a grain of salt.  This information came from the U.S. State department and who knows where it came from.

I did make another report on the 1944 conference and they all state that the food provided by the Russians for the American delegation was fabulous and lots of it.

The one thing that detracted from the meeting was that the President was in very bad health and died just a few weeks later.  He suffered from hypertention and lung problems as he was a smoker.   He also had spent most of his adult life in a wheelchair as he had polio.

Douglas
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Robert_Hall on May 31, 2006, 07:04:00 PM
That report was given to the American planner by the Soviets.  They would hardly be  the least bit sympathetic nor understanding of the Imperial Family and their living arrangements.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Janet_W. on June 05, 2006, 02:22:59 PM
I visited Livadia Palace in 1991. At the time we were not allowed to visit the second level, but we did tour the ground level.

The information about Nicholas sleeping in a different bedroom each night is ridiculous. As Douglas says, it was given to the United States State Department by someone who obviously wished to promote the idea that Nicholas was paranoid (translate: an idiot). Obviously Nicholas and all Romanovs were aware they were targets for assassination. But the whole idea of going to the Crimea was to relax in an area which was far less hostile to the family than were St. P &  Moscow.

On the other hand, I can confirm that the story about the carved marble charicatures of Nicholas is true; our tour guide pointed them out, just as we were about to enter the palace foyer, and I couldn't help but think how the children must have been amused to see their father's likeness imposed upon the lions!
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: BobG on August 06, 2006, 08:14:38 AM
I just wanted to update this thread on the wonderful posting of the Livadia floorplans by Penny Wilson.  She responded in  another thread:

Thank you both for your quick replies . I hope I was clear that I wasn't suggesting that anyone scan in the whole issue -- or even the article in which the plan appears -- without the express permisson of the copyright holders.  I didn't know Atlantis had been reprinted or I would indeed have asked to buy copies.
 

Hi McLisa!

I'm glad to be able to help out.  Atlantis really isn't being printed anymore -- but I did one for Robert Hall because he's such a great friend (and it helped that he nagged!)  ;D

Anyway -- the plans are now up on kingandwilson.  Here's a copy of the post that appears on our own forum:

+++++++++++++++++++++

When we were doing Atlantis, Greg completed floorplans for several Crimean estates. This is the one for Livadia. It is a schematic plan, based on a number of plans drawn by friends who have visited and on other materials, and may be somewhat different to the actual plans, but the location of the rooms indicated should be correct.

http://www.kingandwilson.com/livadia/palaceplans.htm


Copyright info: The information contained in this link is the property of Greg King and Atlantis Magazine, and may not be copied or reproduced in any form anywhere without the clear written permission. Thanks.

+++++++++++++++++++++

Best,

Penny

For many of us this is the answer to our long hoped for view of Livadia plans.

BobG
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Amy on August 08, 2006, 01:17:03 PM
Just another big huge THANK YOU for the floor plans. 
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: xirbis on August 29, 2006, 03:09:26 PM
THANKS for the plans!!!
But...
there is something wrong with them. Especially with the NW block...And generally - look at the pictures of the palace and count the windows - and now look at the plans, count the windows there...see my point?
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Alibubba on January 27, 2007, 03:14:39 PM
Hello!  I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but I don't remember where in the White Palace the kitchen and other service rooms were located. It seems as if family (and state) rooms were on both the ground floor and the floor above.  I appreciate any info.  Thank you! :) ::)
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Robert_Hall on January 27, 2007, 03:25:58 PM
Kitchens and other service functions were normally is seperate buildings nearby, were they not?
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Sarushka on January 27, 2007, 05:07:19 PM
Here's a link to Livadia's floorplans:
http://www.kingandwilson.com/livadia/palaceplans.htm (http://www.kingandwilson.com/livadia/palaceplans.htm)
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Philippos on May 24, 2007, 05:47:09 PM
I've been an avid reader of this message board for several years, and I'm glad I finally found something interesting to post. Totally unexpectedly, I found a plan of the New/White Palace's ground floor at the following URL:

http://ua.vlasenko.net/_pgs/pgs-html/pgs2-305.html

I know everyone has been hoping for an accurate plan of this beautiful palace and I was thrilled when I stumbled across this little gem while looking for pictures of Dulber. Since I can't read Russian or Ukrainian (I'm not sure which language the guidebook scan with the plan is written in), I wasn't sure what info the site contained.

The scan of the full page with the plan can be viewed here:

http://ua.vlasenko.net/_pgs/pgs-scan/pgs2-305.jpg

I hope this plan helps everyone understand the Imperial Family's favorite residence a little better!
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Vladimir_V. on May 25, 2007, 11:51:12 AM
Nice link, Philippos!

Other floorplans from this website:

Khan Palace (Bahtchisarai) http://ua.vlasenko.net/_pgs/pgs-html/pgs2-313.html

Vorontsov Palace    http://ua.vlasenko.net/_pgs/pgs-html/pgs2-298.html
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: gleb on May 27, 2007, 01:22:06 PM
Many thanks indeed! :)
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on June 24, 2007, 03:09:38 PM
I visited Livadia Palace in 1991. At the time we were not allowed to visit the second level, but we did tour the ground level.

The information about Nicholas sleeping in a different bedroom each night is ridiculous. As Douglas says, it was given to the United States State Department by someone who obviously wished to promote the idea that Nicholas was paranoid (translate: an idiot). Obviously Nicholas and all Romanovs were aware they were targets for assassination. But the whole idea of going to the Crimea was to relax in an area which was far less hostile to the family than were St. P &  Moscow.

On the other hand, I can confirm that the story about the carved marble charicatures of Nicholas is true; our tour guide pointed them out, just as we were about to enter the palace foyer, and I couldn't help but think how the children must have been amused to see their father's likeness imposed upon the lions!

i don't know if this will help or not (or if anyone has posted it before), but i just found this page that has fotos of the Nikolai II & Aleksandra's rooms, including:

"Bedchamber of Their Majesties."
"Library of Her Majesty."
"Domestic dining-room." (ie: the private family dining room)"

http://www.serg-klymenko.narod.ru/Other_World/Ukraine.Crimea.Livadia.htm
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: lilianna on February 26, 2008, 08:32:45 PM
Even in the book about architect Krasnov there is no plan Ливадийского of a palace. But there there is many photo of construction of a palace, and also a photo of the Smart cabinet of Emperor, the Study of Emperor, a desktop in a cabinet of 2 floor, a cabinet of Empress, library and others. If it is interesting to you, I can send them on your mail.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Condecontessa on March 07, 2008, 07:15:03 PM
Here are some pics of the Livadia palace during construction:

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/6russie.jpg)

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/3russie.jpg)


(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/2russie.jpg)

Thanks to Lilianna for kindly sending me the pics.

Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Amy on March 08, 2008, 08:05:30 PM
Many thanks for the photos. Condecontessa and Lillianna. They are wonderful! If you have any more ...

It's been forever and a day since I last posted, but I got inspired by the the ground floor plans Philippose posted a link to last May. Since the original is so frustrating small I decided to re-do it. The results are below. I more or less followed the original floor plans, but I made a few changes based on photos I found - e.g. add/delete a window or door.

It's a work in progress ...

(http://home.comcast.net/~kidwells/LivadiaFlrPlGrFlrV2.jpg)

Direct link:
http://home.comcast.net/~kidwells/LivadiaFlrPlGrFlrV2.jpg (http://home.comcast.net/~kidwells/LivadiaFlrPlGrFlrV2.jpg)

Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Condecontessa on March 10, 2008, 10:13:13 AM
You're welcome Amy, there's more to come but I have to find it in my computer files because I don't remember where I saved it. Lilianna's the one tht sent it to me.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Condecontessa on March 10, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
I hope nobody will get me for my posting these pics under the Livadia floorplan thread. Finally did some digging and here goes:

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/1-1.jpg)
Nicholas II (left), memorial dedication for Livadia Palace (right)
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/3-1.jpg)
(Left) The Imperial couple's bedroom, (right) Alexei's bedroom
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/2.jpg)
Alexandra's boudoir ( There's a picture taken of the family in this room)

Credit goes to Lilianna.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Condecontessa on March 10, 2008, 11:21:38 AM
Here's some more:

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/7.jpg)
Imperial Couple's bedroom
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/5-1.jpg)
Left-Nicholas II's desk in his study, right-Alexandra's study
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/4-1.jpg)
Nicholas II's Great Study


Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Condecontessa on March 10, 2008, 11:41:53 AM
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/11.jpg)
(Left) Cabinet of the Empress
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/FireplaceintheImperialbedroom.jpg)
Fireplace in the Imperial bedroom
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/ffbcbc00.jpg)
Front cover of the book from where all of the pics came from.

Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Amy on March 10, 2008, 03:39:56 PM
Thanks for the photos. :)

Like I mentioned before, the floor plans are a work in progress ..

Below is an updated version.  I re-oriented the compass points to match google earth's, added a few doors I missed, some stairs, fireplaces, and IDed a few more locations, including Nicholas II's Reception and Billiard Rooms.

(http://home.comcast.net/~kidwells/LivadiaFlrPlGrFlrV3.jpg)

Direct link:
http://home.comcast.net/~kidwells/LivadiaFlrPlGrFlrV3.jpg (http://home.comcast.net/~kidwells/LivadiaFlrPlGrFlrV3.jpg)

Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Robert_Hall on March 10, 2008, 04:36:15 PM
Wonderful and thank you! The upper floors perhaps?
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Amy on March 10, 2008, 06:19:04 PM
The upper floors perhaps?

I wish! I don't think any of the upper (or lbasement) floor plans have surfaced yet. I could probably make some educated guesses ... (but it's not ready yet.)

I found an excellent collection of Livada photographs yesterday that helped me ID (with a fair degree of confidence!) some of the rooms.

Room specific photos:

Parade Hall
http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1958 (http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1958)
http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2004 (http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2004)

NII's Waiting Room
http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1928 (http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1928)
http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1946 (http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1946)

NII's Audience Room
http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1961 (http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1961)
http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1994 (http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1994)

NII's Billiard Room
http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1931 (http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1931)
http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1934 (http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1934)

Church
http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2054 (http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2054)

The full collection:
http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1895 (http://www.photoskazka.crimea.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1895)


Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Condecontessa on March 11, 2008, 09:48:16 AM
All I can say is wow!!! Thank you so much Amy.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Reco on March 11, 2008, 06:05:25 PM
I forgot which did this job but I found it on AP

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1318/1ugroundfloorplandiagravn6.th.jpg) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1ugroundfloorplandiagravn6.jpg)(http://)
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Amy on March 11, 2008, 06:57:24 PM
That looks like Greg King's and Penny Wilson's, which BobG posted a link to earlier in this thread. Most unfortunately though, these floor plans are not quite right. This isn't a criticism, just an observation. Penny herself even mentioned when she first posted the link to them that they are "based on a number of plans drawn by friends who have visited and on other materials, and may be somewhat different to the actual plans..." And so they are.

To my limited knowledge, the only actual plan to surface so far is the ground floor. Since this copy is so frustratingly small ... :)







Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Ortino on March 11, 2008, 09:53:29 PM
If you don't mind me asking, Condecontessa, what is the book that contains the photos of Livadia about? I can't read Russian, sorry.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Sarushka on March 12, 2008, 07:59:07 AM
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/2.jpg (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/divine1grace/2.jpg)
Alexandra's boudoir ( There's a picture taken of the family in this room)
Credit goes to Lilianna.

Is this the photo you're thinking of?

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/th_6-134b.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/6-134b.jpg)

Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: lilianna on March 13, 2008, 06:20:10 AM
Photo from the book " Romanovs and Crimea ".
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Condecontessa on March 13, 2008, 12:50:32 PM
Yes, Sarushka. That's exactly what I was thinking of.  :) Ortino, Lilianna sent me the pics, so it came from the book Romanovs and the Crimea. If you're asking about the picture of the front cover of a book I posted awhile ago, I can't read Russian either. I'm sorry. I wish I have that book (sigh). :(
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: lilianna on March 13, 2008, 04:42:16 PM
If someone wishes to receive a photo of a cover of the book, I can send. Mine адрес:coccer@yandex.ru.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: EmmyLee on May 09, 2008, 03:29:02 PM
To everyone who posted them, thank you for the floorplans. It's very interesting to see the layout of Livadia. I was wondering about Alexei's rooms. Everyone else had their rooms on the upper floor except for him. Could this be for his convenience after recovering?
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: xirbis on May 11, 2008, 10:54:40 AM
Alexei's rooms are located right above the N&A rooms, they are with a sea view.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Helen_Azar on May 11, 2008, 01:34:11 PM
Does anyone have any idea which painting this is?

(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll287/helenazar2/livadia.jpg)
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Vladimir_V. on May 11, 2008, 02:33:50 PM
It is the Persian (Iran) hand-made tapestry “NII with AF and the son”
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Helen_Azar on May 11, 2008, 02:48:02 PM
It is the Persian (Iran) hand-made tapestry “NII with AF and the son”

Thank you! Do you have a picture of it by any chance?
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Vladimir_V. on May 11, 2008, 03:03:09 PM
I think I took a photo. I`ll try to find it in my comp.
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Vladimir_V. on May 18, 2008, 12:24:00 PM
I have this photograph only:

(http://i021.radikal.ru/0805/42/e77832b61cc5t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i021.radikal.ru/0805/42/e77832b61cc5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Amy on June 05, 2008, 12:50:08 PM
While searching for Livadia pictures, I happened upon a link which I'm assuming discusses, at least in part, the construction of the new palace at Livadia. The text may be interesting for those that read Russian, but for those who do not (myself included) there are sketches some of the architectural details ...(I think!)

http://www.commonuments.crimea-portal.gov.ua/rus/index.php?&v=1&tek=90&par=74&l=&art=388&dt=20083

Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Joanna on August 06, 2008, 10:16:24 PM
I have searched but unable to find if this was posted before - Details of the construction of Livadia palace including Kitchen building of 90 rooms (!!) and garages, etc. The palace had 3 elevators.

http://www.grafskaya.com/article.php?id=363

Joanna
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: Alexander1917 on June 14, 2010, 10:36:39 AM
here I have a plan which is shown in the palace itself

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245/alexander1917/DSCI0063.jpg)

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245/alexander1917/IMG_3167.jpg)


this tapsetry diappeared from the palacve, and was recently bought by a German at Sotherby's. It is NOT part of the palace property, it's only on loan there.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w245/alexander1917/DSCI0066.jpg)
Title: Re: Livadia's floorpalns
Post by: G.Michael on June 16, 2012, 02:36:36 AM
Link: www.livadiapalace.crimea.com/mapa_ld.htm