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Title: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: aleksandra on June 21, 2005, 09:09:05 PM
From birth,weight, hight, Books, his sisters,trains. Anything and everything on him to complie in this topic.
Favorite, jews, flowers,places to be at (i.e. Alexander palace).
Please alix
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Georgiy on June 21, 2005, 09:36:10 PM
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Favorite, jews, flowers
???
jewels perhaps?


I believe a favourite book was King Solomon's Mines.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: aleksandra on June 22, 2005, 03:22:07 PM
thats what i meant.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Holly on July 01, 2005, 10:35:23 AM
I'm just now starting to learn about him so here is all I know-
Birthday- August 12, 1904. 1:15 p.m
Weight- 10 1/2
His favorite place to be was probably Stavka.
His favorite playmate when he was younger was Anastasia, but in the Ipatiev House, he was always with Olga.
His favorite Faberge egg was the Trans-Siberian Railway Egg. (I think this is correct..)
He liked to play with his toy soldiers.
He had light brown hair with a glint of copper light his mother. And dark blue eyes.
Thats all i know right now!
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Lanie on July 01, 2005, 11:35:24 AM
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Weight- 8 pounds exactly


Alexei was actually around 10 1/2lbs.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Holly on July 01, 2005, 03:53:07 PM
Oops...You will have to forgive me, I hardly know anything about Alexei and I was just going by my book!  ;D I changed it!
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: etonexile on July 01, 2005, 07:28:12 PM
Were all those chaps he is seen drilling in military precision and watching jump into the water truely his "friends"...or just a diversion?
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: aleksandra on July 02, 2005, 09:02:03 PM
I know this is some ones work and Dont sue. :-[
Alexei
On the day he was born, he was named Ataman, or hetman, of all Cossack Troops (ataman is a title for a Cossack military chief ). In the tsarevich’s case it was  an honorary post which had been held by every Heir to the Throne since Nicholas I had created it for his eldest son Alexander (future Alexander II).  

On the same day (07-30-1904 Old Style) Nicholas II also named his son Chief  (colonel-in-chief) of the following regiments:  
- Atamansky (Cossack Cavalry) Guards Regiment of  His Imperial Highness the Heir Tsesarevich (by tradition, as Ataman of all Cossacks,  the Heir to the Throne was always named chief of this regiment which he only kept until he became emperor);
- Finlandsky (Infantry) Guards Regiment;
- 51st Litovsky Infantry Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (not to be mistaken for the Litovsky Guards Regiment);
- 12th Siberian Rifle Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich.

At the same time he was enrolled in all regiments of which his father, mother and grand-mother were Colonel-in-Chief at the time.
As he grew up, his father  the Emperor named him chief of more military units and establishments. The last official list, published by His Majesty’s Military Chancellery for 1917, names the following (listed by dates of regimental/school holiday). Sadly enough, that year, the February Revolution broke out and the Tsarevich was deprived of his title of Chief of regiments before any of them would celebrate their holiday. When I could find them, I added the dates (old style) on which he was named chief:  

- Konstantinovsky Artillery School;
- 1st Nerchinsky Trans-Baikal Cossack Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (during the War);
- 1st Trans-Baikal Cossack (Artillery) Battery of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (on 05-06-1910, his father’s birthday);
- 12th Siberian Rifle Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (07-30-1904);
- 1st Orenburgsky Cossack Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (during the War I think);
- 14th Gruzinsky Grenadier Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (somewhere between 1910-1914);  
- 89th Belomorsky Infantry Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (during the War);
- Horse-Grenadier Guards Regiment (06-13-1910);
- 5th Kievsky Grenadier Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (somewhere between 1910-1914);
- 43rd (later16th )  Tversky Dragoon Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (on his 3rd birthday: 07-30-1907);
- 1st Volgsky Terek Cossack Regiment of H.I. H. the Heir Tsesarevich (06-1916);
- 2nd Don Cossack Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (during the War I think);
- Tashkent Cadet Corps of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (on 10-05-1904, his namesday);
- 3rd Kuban Plastun (Cossack Infantry) Batalion of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (04-19-1915);
- Alexis Military School (02-02-1906) formerly known as the Moscow Military School;
- Naval (Cadet) Corps (Morskoi Korpus) of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (11-08-1914);
- Moskovsky (Infantry) Guards Regiment (on 11-08-1910, the regimental holiday);
- 206th Saliansky Infantry Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (also for his 3rd birthday);
- Novocherkassk Cossack Military School;
- Atamansky (Cossack Cavalry) Guards Regiment of  H. I. H. the Heir Tsesarevich (07-30-1904);
- 4th Guards Horse Artillery Battery of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich  (01-25-1906);  
- 51st Litovsky Infantry Regiment of H.I.H. the Heir Tsesarevich (07-30-1904);
- Finlandsky (Infantry) Guards Regiment (07-30-1904).
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: RussiaSunbeam1918 on July 03, 2005, 04:24:43 PM
I know he was partial to his tee-pee (sp?)
and toy soldiers. In fact, I read a story about how he would spend forever setting up his soldiers in streight and even lines, but Anastasia would knock them all down again. I'm sure that pleased him.  ::)

-Dana
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Historybuff262 on October 13, 2005, 08:54:30 PM
Was his favorite book really King Solomon's mines????
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Georgiy on October 20, 2005, 03:15:41 PM
I don't know if it was his absolute favourite, but, yes, he liked it very much. I am sure I have read that one of his tutors said that, and his own copy of the book is still around.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Caleb on October 25, 2005, 04:29:09 PM
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Alexei was actually around 10 1/2lbs.

If only I could be that weight again! I've gotten a little more plump on the cruise. Speaking of food, were Alexei & his sisters denied second helpings of food, like Nicholas was?
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Post by: RussiaSunbeam1918 on October 26, 2005, 07:16:49 AM
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Was his favorite book really King Solomon's mines????


Hmm, I never heard this, but it makes me want to read it a lot!
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: nena on April 12, 2009, 01:39:44 PM
Game he used to play : 'Nain Jaune'.

Probably best place he loved was Stavka.

He dank coffee, cat : Zubrovka, dogs : Joy, Shot.

Heard he enjoyed reading adventures of Sherlock Holmes.

Languages he learned: French, English and of course Russian.

Hated pains, any kind of. Was born on Friday, Lower Dacha, Peterhof. July 30/August 12 1904.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: nena on April 12, 2009, 02:35:09 PM
Forgot to add - playing with kopeiks, toy - soldiers, hide and seek, balalaika, sometimes was lazy for writing or learning.

Didn't love to study, loved teasing with friends, Counts, soldiers, loved to be 'the Chief'. But he caused sympathies at people he met, according to Count Voeikov, loved to help anyone who had pains.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: abbigail on February 06, 2010, 03:28:08 PM
He was very compassionate, especially later in his life, for people who were suffering, since he knew what real pain was.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Princess Juliana on February 23, 2010, 08:35:40 PM
It seemed that he thought often about his own death, because he wished for a simple memorial of stones in the forest.

He loved military life and his favorite times were with his father observing the troops when he was 11/12.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 24, 2010, 02:48:11 AM
He expressed that wish for a memorial when everybody thought he was dying in Spala 1912. Wouldn´t you be thinking of death if you had a disease nobody could cure?
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: abbigail on March 03, 2010, 03:50:50 PM
I didn't know that about Alexei. Interesting...I guess being in any of Alexei's situations, whether it's a disease or later on in his life, imprisonment, etc. would make a child somewhat morose. Thank God there's a cure for hemophilia now! Sad that any child has to think about death like that, including Alexei.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Dust_of_History on March 05, 2010, 12:24:46 PM
As far as I know there isn't a cure for hemophilia. With special treatment hemophiliacs are able to live a "normal" life but they still have to be careful. But I'm not an expert on this subject and I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 05, 2010, 12:31:48 PM
You are completely right! There is no cure for it because its a gene deficiency. Even today you have to be careful though medicaments can give you a quite normal life.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: abbigail on March 05, 2010, 03:26:26 PM
There's really no cure? Wow! At least there are the meds one can use, though. Do people commonly die from it anymore or does the medication take care of it every time?
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 05, 2010, 03:35:52 PM
Though there is no cure for haemophilia, it can be controlled with regular infusions of the deficient clotting factor. In Western countries, common standards of care fall into one of two categories: prophylaxis or on-demand. Prophylaxis involves the infusion of clotting factor on a regular schedule in order to keep clotting levels sufficiently high to prevent spontaneous bleeding episodes. On-demand treatment involves treating bleeding episodes once they arise. Prophylactic treatment, however, resulted in average costs of $300,000 per year.

It's "under control" today, but there are a lot of complications which can occur, for example internal bleeding or adverse reactions to clotting factor treatment
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Post by: abbigail on March 05, 2010, 03:40:31 PM
That's interesting. Still pretty hard to live with, from what I've gathered!
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Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 05, 2010, 03:42:20 PM
BTW and which I find interesting: If a female gives birth to a haemophiliac child, either the female is a carrier for the disease or the haemophilia was the result of a spontaneous mutation. Until modern direct DNA testing, however, it was impossible to determine if a female with only healthy children was a carrier or not. Generally, the more healthy sons she bore, the higher the probability that she was not a carrier. If a male is afflicted with the disease and has children with a female who is not even a carrier, his daughters will be carriers of haemophilia. His sons, however, will not be affected with the disease. The disease is X-linked and the father cannot pass haemophilia through the Y chromosome.
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Post by: Dust_of_History on March 05, 2010, 05:00:15 PM
Wow that's pretty complicated. I saw a guy on a TV show some time ago who had hemophilia and he looked quite healthy but I still could see bruises on his arms and I was shocked, because I didn't expect to see somebody who actually has that illness. I'm really glad that today people with that illness can live a normal live.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Tasia on March 05, 2010, 05:05:59 PM
Wow that's pretty complicated. I saw a guy on a TV show some time ago who had hemophilia and he looked quite healthy but I still could see bruises on his arms and I was shocked, because I didn't expect to see somebody who actually has that illness. I'm really glad that today people with that illness can live a normal live.
I have a friend that has haemophilia! Sometimes he didn't go to classes because he was at the hospital doing (oh I forgot the name E_E). Anyway, his name is Davi and he's very healthy now ^^
He's very white,though. hehe
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Post by: Dust_of_History on March 05, 2010, 05:17:11 PM
I'm glad to read that he's healthy now. ;-) I worked in a hospital and I met people who were really ill but they were full of life and hope. That was really touching. 
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Post by: abbigail on March 05, 2010, 09:45:20 PM
That's rather complex, GD Valeria, but interesting to read about. I'm glad your friend is ok now, Tasia!
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Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 06, 2010, 01:26:37 AM
So Alexei would have produced healthy heirs.
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Post by: Kalafrana on March 06, 2010, 05:20:57 AM
If he had sons, they would have been healthy (at any rate, not haemophiliac). any daughters would have been carriers, so putting his grandsons at risk of haemophilia.

Ann
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Post by: nena on March 07, 2010, 10:47:21 PM
There is exception --  had he married a girl who was hemophilia's carrier, the children would have surely (there is certain percent of possibility) be carriers/or they would have been hemophiliacs.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Kalafrana on March 08, 2010, 04:46:28 AM
True. He could then have produced a haemophiliac daughter! Realistically, he would need to have avoided any girl descended from Queen Victoria.

Ann
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 08, 2010, 06:02:59 AM
That could be difficult. Many descendants ;)
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Post by: Kalafrana on March 08, 2010, 06:37:28 AM
Exactly. Made much more difficult by the First World War, which would exclude all Germans, Austrians and Bulgarians for an indefinite period after the war was over.

I should have said 'descended from Victoria in the female line', in fact, since descendants of Victoria's sons were 'safe', apart from Alice of Athlone, who was rather old for Alexei anyway!

When was Margaret of Connaught's daughter born. If she was close in age to Alexei she would be a reasonable possibility. (I think they would want to get him married in his early 20s, so as to give the maximum chance of fathering a son before premature death)

Ann
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Post by: Margot on March 08, 2010, 07:28:57 AM
I have read elsewhere on the forum in the past, whole lists of possible brides for Alexei!!!!

Ingrid of Sweden was born in 1910 and then there was Ileana of Romania b. 1909.

There would have been other choices too! Everyone went on for a while about the Nicholas of Greece's girls Elizabeth b. 1904 and Marina b. 1906 in particular as possible suitable future wives for Alexei. Probably the added bonus of them being Orthodox!

Maybe even the gorgeous Astrid of Sweden b. 1905 might have married Alexei instead of Leopld III of the Belgiums....who knows?

Any of the above would have been highly attractive candidates because they came out of hemophilia free marriages which by the 1920s would have been pretty obvious I would have thought!
 

Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Gorseheart on May 30, 2010, 06:11:55 PM
Well I know that he was born August 12, 1904 (It was a different date at the time because they changed the calender). He had Brown/copper hair, and the Romanov blue eyes. He never smiled because he had a gap in his teeth, (being a Hemophiliac it would be difficult for a dentist to fix it). He was atleast a foot shorter than Nicholas at the time of death. He played balalaika, soldiers and all sorts of war games.
Here's a couple of things he did as he mentioned in a journal entry:

6 January 1918
"Got up at 7. Had tea with Papa, Tatiana and Anastasia. We played cards. Maria is dress and is walking around the rooms. At 6 o’clock we played hide and seek and shouted and made a terrible noise."

Cited from Alexeiromanov.org

He also played with Kolia. Some kid he knew. I've heard Tsar Nicholas speak before but there's no recording of Alexei. :(

-Taylor
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Sarushka on May 30, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
He never smiled because he had a gap in his teeth

It's true he had a gap, but there are numerous photos that show Aleksei smiling in spit of it.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Gorseheart on May 30, 2010, 10:39:24 PM
He never smiled because he had a gap in his teeth

It's true he had a gap, but there are numerous photos that show Aleksei smiling in spit of it.

Well yeah I know, I've found lots of them in the the family's online photoalbum, but the thing was that there aren't many of them. I guess he smiled alot, just not much for the camera. ^^ I do know he had a certain laugh that gave people the chills, because it was his "Sinister" prank laugh. Oh and sorry, he was a lot taller then Nicky.
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Post by: RealAnastasia on May 30, 2010, 11:02:25 PM
He never smiled because he had a gap in his teeth

It's true he had a gap, but there are numerous photos that show Aleksei smiling in spit of it.

Yes. I think he didn't care about his gap...In fact we know that he had a gap since we've seen him smiling in lot of pics.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on May 31, 2010, 12:47:21 AM

Any of the above would have been highly attractive candidates because they came out of hemophilia free marriages which by the 1920s would have been pretty obvious I would have thought!


Who knows if he wouldn't have choose a russian girl for marrying for love. We know, that this was nearly impossible according to the law and the profound aversion of the IF to morganatic marriages, but times always changes and remember his parents (esp. his mother) which were absolutely devoted to him and the possibility of his own froward head. Who knows if he wouldn't have said: "This one and no other." He was not the well-behaved child like his sisters and much more was him allowed to do. And everything was addicted to him.

Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Sarushka on May 31, 2010, 06:56:32 AM
I do know he had a certain laugh that gave people the chills, because it was his "Sinister" prank laugh.

Interesting. Do you know the source for that info? I've not heard of that before.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on May 31, 2010, 11:54:53 AM
 Referencing Reply # 41. I, too, would be interested in verification of this and will watch for the reply statement/origin of "proof."  I have the strangest feeling that this poster ("Gorseheart") is picking up information from one or more of these prolific "teen/crush" sites and not being very discriminating in filtering/verifying the information therein. ( The references to Kolia Deverenko in Post # , as "some kid he played with," and the Heir's not being attended by a dentist : "Also Alexei wasn't allolwed to the Dentist being a Hemophiliac,"  a direct quote of "Gorseheart" from Reply # 28, "Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty/ Tsarevich Alexei Nicholaievich/ Was his teeth crooked? "  are very revealing in knowledge/research depth.) Perhaps time and experience will sharpen his/her skills.   Regards,  AP.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on May 31, 2010, 12:30:04 PM
The reference to Kolia is in "Gorseheart's" #36 post of this thread.   The number was omitted in my previous post #42.  AP
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Gorseheart on May 31, 2010, 02:46:06 PM
I do know he had a certain laugh that gave people the chills, because it was his "Sinister" prank laugh.

Interesting. Do you know the source for that info? I've not heard of that before.

I've picked this information up in a book, but there are several quotes, like here's one from: "The Romanovs & Mr. Gibbs"-

 "There were several battles involving scissors. 'I had a rather bad quarter' Gibbes wrote in dismay. 'He wanted to cut my hair off and he was rather disconcerted when I told him he had made a bald place...he would insist on cutting or pretending to cut everything. The more I tried to prevent him, the more he shrieked with delight' Gibbes noted, with disapproval, a change in the Tsarevitch's appearance during these outbursts. 'He doesn't look handsome then: a most curious expression.' At the time Gibbes had no idea the Tsarevitch was a hemophiliac. Had he known, he would have been considerably more disturbed by the boy's antics."

(Please understand, I pick my information up from very reliable sources, never those stupid "Dating sites". Plus I've found numerous times when others have failed to quote. But this is only one of the quotes, when I find the other, I'll put it up. So please, don't be rude, I can be smart about a subject too.)
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on May 31, 2010, 03:59:27 PM
Re Reply #44:  Please note that IMO, (though I do not speak for her), you have NOT definitively answered "Saruska's" question, relating to the "Sinister" remark and giving people the "chills", only deflected it by saying "in a book," and then changing the subject by moving on to other potentially-related quotes, "like here's one....." Perhaps the wording "sinister" prank laugh/ "chills" is YOUR dramatic "literary-license" interpretation?  However, you HAVE said that when you find the "other" (quote), you'll put it up.  It will be interesting to see the exact wording AND the source.  AP
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Tasia on May 31, 2010, 04:01:25 PM
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/641/2ada2d38.jpg)
This photo shows a little his teeth!
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on May 31, 2010, 07:12:15 PM
Continuing potentially clarifying information about the hair-cutting episode in Reply # 44, as related by " Gorseheart":   Reacting to this quote, in another thread,  ("Discussion about the Imperial Family and European Royalty/ Tsarevich Alexei Nicholaievich/ Alexei Anecdotes,"  poster "Dust of History" in Reply #36, relates the following (full quote, but the emphasises are mine):  "Well, ACTUALLY Alexei hid behind a curtain and cut his OWN hair.  Gibbes said that Alexei cut himself a bald place."  AP
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Dust_of_History on June 01, 2010, 04:28:36 AM
I got the information about the hair-cutting episode from the book "Alexej - Sohn des letzten Zaren" (Alexei - son of the last tsar) by Elisabeth Heresch. I think you can also find this information in Pierre Gilliard's book. Ms Heresch used it as a main source. Sorry for being unclear. :-)  
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Post by: Kalafrana on June 01, 2010, 04:39:33 AM
How old was Alexei at the time of the alleged hair-cutting incident?

My brother when aged about four cut a chunk out of his front hair and there was a gap at that point for years after.

If the story of his cutting Mr Gibbes's hair is true then Alexei was even more spoilt and undisciplined than I realised!

Ann
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Dust_of_History on June 01, 2010, 04:52:24 AM
I think he was nine. The incident took place in one of Gibbes first lessons with Alexei. 
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on June 01, 2010, 06:08:45 AM
Reflecting on Replies # 49 on this thread (Ann), and #36 ("Dust of History") in a related thread previously mentioned: it appears, if I understand correctly, that the Heir cut (no pun intended) a bald spot on his OWN hair and did NOT mutilate the tutor's hair, as first seemed to be suggested.  AP
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Dust_of_History on June 01, 2010, 01:49:16 PM
Yes. Alexei first wanted to cut Mr Gibbes hair but Gibbes refused. Then Alexei cut his OWN hair, wherupon Gibbes said that Alexei had cut a bald spot on his head. But I think Gibbes just wanted to keep the Heir from doing that again. 
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Sarushka on June 02, 2010, 09:27:31 AM
I do know he had a certain laugh that gave people the chills, because it was his "Sinister" prank laugh.

Interesting. Do you know the source for that info? I've not heard of that before.

I've picked this information up in a book, but there are several quotes, like here's one from: "The Romanovs & Mr. Gibbs"-

 "There were several battles involving scissors. 'I had a rather bad quarter' Gibbes wrote in dismay. 'He wanted to cut my hair off and he was rather disconcerted when I told him he had made a bald place...he would insist on cutting or pretending to cut everything. The more I tried to prevent him, the more he shrieked with delight' Gibbes noted, with disapproval, a change in the Tsarevitch's appearance during these outbursts. 'He doesn't look handsome then: a most curious expression.' At the time Gibbes had no idea the Tsarevitch was a hemophiliac. Had he known, he would have been considerably more disturbed by the boy's antics."

(Please understand, I pick my information up from very reliable sources, never those stupid "Dating sites". Plus I've found numerous times when others have failed to quote. But this is only one of the quotes, when I find the other, I'll put it up. So please, don't be rude, I can be smart about a subject too.)


As I pointed out in a parallel thread, this passage was misquoted significantly. Text in italics was omitted from Gorseheart's post:

"There were several battles involving scissors. 'I had rather a bad quarter,' Gibbes wrote in dismay. 'He wanted to cut my hair, and afterwards his own, and when I tried to prevent him, he went behind the curtain and held it round him. When I opened it he had actually cut some hair off and was rather disconcerted when I told him he had made a bald place... he would insist on cutting or pretending to cut everything."

(The Romanovs and Mr. Gibbes, pg 42.)


I won't tolerate remarks about rudeness from someone who's misrepresenting information.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Gorseheart on June 02, 2010, 09:54:34 PM
I do know he had a certain laugh that gave people the chills, because it was his "Sinister" prank laugh.

Interesting. Do you know the source for that info? I've not heard of that before.

I've picked this information up in a book, but there are several quotes, like here's one from: "The Romanovs & Mr. Gibbs"-

 "There were several battles involving scissors. 'I had a rather bad quarter' Gibbes wrote in dismay. 'He wanted to cut my hair off and he was rather disconcerted when I told him he had made a bald place...he would insist on cutting or pretending to cut everything. The more I tried to prevent him, the more he shrieked with delight' Gibbes noted, with disapproval, a change in the Tsarevitch's appearance during these outbursts. 'He doesn't look handsome then: a most curious expression.' At the time Gibbes had no idea the Tsarevitch was a hemophiliac. Had he known, he would have been considerably more disturbed by the boy's antics."

(Please understand, I pick my information up from very reliable sources, never those stupid "Dating sites". Plus I've found numerous times when others have failed to quote. But this is only one of the quotes, when I find the other, I'll put it up. So please, don't be rude, I can be smart about a subject too.)


As I pointed out in a parallel thread, this passage was misquoted significantly. Text in italics was omitted from Gorseheart's post:

"There were several battles involving scissors. 'I had rather a bad quarter,' Gibbes wrote in dismay. 'He wanted to cut my hair, and afterwards his own, and when I tried to prevent him, he went behind the curtain and held it round him. When I opened it he had actually cut some hair off and was rather disconcerted when I told him he had made a bald place... he would insist on cutting or pretending to cut everything."

(The Romanovs and Mr. Gibbes, pg 42.)


I won't tolerate remarks about rudeness from someone who's misrepresenting information.

Calm down I haven't been here long enough to learn the bells or whistles. I haven't gotten 1 kind comment. I got one from you once, but I take that back.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Ekaterina-Nikolaevna on June 05, 2011, 11:57:30 AM
What a mischievous little boy! Though he did grow up during his stay at Stavka. He was very grown up when Pierre Gilliard told him of Nicholas's abdictation - he didn't cry, like OTMA did, or even mension himself.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: DIANE on October 06, 2011, 02:03:05 AM

Any of the above would have been highly attractive candidates because they came out of hemophilia free marriages which by the 1920s would have been pretty obvious I would have thought!


Who knows if he wouldn't have choose a russian girl for marrying for love. We know, that this was nearly impossible according to the law and the profound aversion of the IF to morganatic marriages, but times always changes and remember his parents (esp. his mother) which were absolutely devoted to him and the possibility of his own froward head. Who knows if he wouldn't have said: "This one and no other." He was not the well-behaved child like his sisters and much more was him allowed to do. And everything was addicted to him.



in fact it was the same think his father did , he said "Alix or nobody else"
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: DIANE on October 06, 2011, 02:10:37 AM
How old was Alexei at the time of the alleged hair-cutting incident?

My brother when aged about four cut a chunk out of his front hair and there was a gap at that point for years after.

If the story of his cutting Mr Gibbes's hair is true then Alexei was even more spoilt and undisciplined than I realised!

Ann
don't forget that male kids are always protected by mother, more if you are ill and the only boy in your family destinated to throne you can easily understand that , even if Alexej had perhaps good heart, he felt that he would  be always proteced whatever he did and he was also a ltìittle ungry for his illness.
Title: Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
Post by: Kalafrana on October 06, 2011, 02:18:35 AM
I have a younger brother who was asthmatic and also spoilt rotten!

Ann