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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => French Royals => Topic started by: emeraldeyes on August 18, 2005, 09:40:45 AM

Title: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: emeraldeyes on August 18, 2005, 09:40:45 AM
Okay, being a big jewellery geek, I am always looking for more info/pics on jewels of any type, provenence or description.
Can anyone enlighten me on the marvelous world of French royal jewels?

Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on August 18, 2005, 09:52:16 AM
Well, the most famous French jewels I can think of come from the famous Diamond Necklace Affair. Perhaps someone can find a pic of the necklace?
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Lisa on August 18, 2005, 12:22:06 PM
The Marie Antoinette's necklace is a recreation...

My photos of the jewels in the Louvre:
Évrard BAPST, Frédéric BAPST, duchesse d'Angoulême's Tiara
1819 - 1820
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/photo128.jpg)


idem, necklace; Paul-Nicolas MENIÈRE Évrard BAPST,
Frédéric BAPST
,duchesse d'Angoulème's bracelets 1816 et 1825 ; Augustin DUFLOS, Claude RONDÉ, Louis XV's crown 1722
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/photo129.jpg)

Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Lisa on August 18, 2005, 12:30:09 PM
Queen Marie -Amélie set, coming from Queen Horthense de Beauharnais, re-buy in 1821 by King Louis Philippe for his wife.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/photo131.jpg)

Gabriel LEMONNIER, Empress Eugébie crown, 1855 (executed for "l'Exposition Universelle" of 1855); idem, Empres Eugénie tiara 1853
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/photo132.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on August 18, 2005, 12:33:03 PM
Beautiful pics, Lisa.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: emeraldeyes on August 18, 2005, 02:30:45 PM
Those emeralds!  Oh my Dog!!  I am swooning :o :o :o
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on August 18, 2005, 02:52:40 PM
The sapphires are lovely, too.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Mgmstl on August 18, 2005, 07:41:01 PM
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Well, the most famous French jewels I can think of come from the famous Diamond Necklace Affair. Perhaps someone can find a pic of the necklace?



Actually Prince, it was NEVER part of the French Crown Jewels, Marie Antoinette never actually purchased the necklace, and  Madame de la Motte & her group duped the Cardinal Rohan into purchasing it for the Queen, however she considered Rohan one of her enemies.
This necklace and the scandal surrounding it was the beginning of the French Revolution.   However the necklace was broken up by de la Motte, and the stones sold in London.

Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Robert_Hall on August 18, 2005, 08:09:18 PM
As I recall from Twinning [Crown Jewels of Europe]  most of the French collection was recycled, from one king to the next. What was not lost in the revolution was even recycled for the Bonapartes. I think Martybn has the best source of reference on the French Crown Jewels. [despite my reputation, I did balk at the price to add it to my library!]
The infamous "Diamond Necklace" has always fascinated me, as it is so pivotal to the story of MA.  I know someone who had a copy made [crystal] and wears it now & then for costume.  I have often contemplated buying it  as I guess I am the only one foolish enough to be interested. But, the thing is HUGE [where to wear it !] and UGLY !
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on August 19, 2005, 12:56:46 AM
Marie Antoinette's earrings(swoon,swoon.)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/pssmarieamelie/marie.png)


Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on August 19, 2005, 04:07:08 AM
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Actually Prince, it was NEVER part of the French Crown Jewels, Marie Antoinette never actually purchased the necklace, and  Madame de la Motte & her group duped the Cardinal Rohan into purchasing it for the Queen, however she considered Rohan one of her enemies.
This necklace and the scandal surrounding it was the beginning of the French Revolution.   However the necklace was broken up by de la Motte, and the stones sold in London.



Yes, yes, I know this, Michael G. What I meant was I thought the Necklace was perhaps the most famous piece of jewelry to be in any way connected with the royalty of France. I know the saga of the Necklace - Antonia Fraser examins it in detail in her Marie Antoineete: the Journey.

Can anyone give me more info on a jewel that Louis XII gave to Mary Rose Tudor when he married - the heart of Tuscany, or the Star of Tuscany or something like that, purported to be one of the most fabulous jewels of its day?

BTW, great pics everyone!
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: emeraldeyes on August 19, 2005, 09:43:09 AM
These wonderful photos have surpassed my hopes immeasurably.  Thank you to all who have contributed.  I look forward to gleaning more knowledge as this thread continues to develop.   :)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: emeraldeyes on August 22, 2005, 01:54:59 PM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/emeraldeyes1969/garnetparurenapsoth.jpg)

Found this in the Sotheby's archives of lots sold.  They claim the insignia is that of Napoleon.  Anyone recognize this garnet parure?  Would it have been some type of 'presentation' gift to someone at court, or would it have been the property of the empress?
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on August 22, 2005, 02:05:03 PM
Gosh, I wish I could tell you emeraldeyes . . . but my knowlege of jewels is rudimentry at best.  Perhaps grandduchessella, my co-moderator, knows the answer?  ???
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: etonexile on August 24, 2005, 09:17:45 AM
Teddy thinks he would look stunning in the pearl and diamond tiarra when he goes bowling......
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Kimberly on August 24, 2005, 11:09:24 AM
Well, I am afraid that dear Tedders is going to have to fight me for it because I think it is absolutely stunning......and I have friends in very high places 8) 8)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: etonexile on August 24, 2005, 11:17:07 AM
Well...with all respect...Tedders has friends in very high places as well....



...Looks into the tree tops.....
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on August 24, 2005, 11:38:05 AM
The Diamond and emerald tiara of the Duchesse d'Angouleme is absolutely gorgeous . . . I dread to wonder how much it must cost . . .  :P
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Kimberly on August 24, 2005, 01:07:51 PM
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Well...with all respect...Tedders has friends in very high places as well....



...Looks into the tree tops.....

Look behind you muuhahahahah :-*
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 04, 2005, 08:18:42 AM
Here's a pic of Louis XV's crown:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ad/Louis15.jpg)

The 'Hope Diamond':

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3c/HopeDiamond1.JPG)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 06, 2005, 02:40:02 PM
Gorgeous - love the hand-shake gold thingy . . .
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: bell_the_cat on September 06, 2005, 02:47:39 PM
What does it mean though?

Perhaps her agreement with herself to look after number one? :o
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 06, 2005, 02:53:02 PM
And what about the two angels on the side . . .  ::)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: bell_the_cat on September 06, 2005, 02:58:56 PM
Margot and Hercule!
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 06, 2005, 03:02:39 PM
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Margot and Hercule!


;D ;D ;D Somehow I doubt it!
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Helene on September 07, 2005, 12:46:15 AM
In a letter November 16, 1571, Catherine de Médicis explains to François Dujardin, goldsmith of the queen since 1569, how to set on a pendentive this emerald. The reason for the joined hands is friendship, but angels are a mystery  ???
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: bell_the_cat on September 07, 2005, 12:55:56 AM
Hi Helene!

Do you know which specific friendship was being referred to? Was it a particular friend? Just curious.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Helene on September 07, 2005, 09:23:02 AM
Alas no, I don't know :-/
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: bell_the_cat on September 07, 2005, 01:48:16 PM
That's OK I figured it out over lunch!

The hands refer to the protestants and the catholics being friends, which is what Catherine at certain times in her regency was striving for (Edict of Toleration 1563).
I can imagine her wearing this jewel at crisis meetings - it means: I am the mediator, I am the chairperson. Unfortunately because she changed her tack so often, neither side trusted her.

There is probably more symbolism in the jewel. Renaissance items were always packed with references. The idea was that someone would ask about the jewel, and the owner or wearer would be able to hold forth about the complicated allegories etc.!
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Arianwen on September 09, 2005, 11:01:05 AM
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Can anyone give me more info on a jewel that Louis XII gave to Mary Rose Tudor when he married - the heart of Tuscany, or the Star of Tuscany or something like that, purported to be one of the most fabulous jewels of its day?


The Mirror of Naples, actually. I believe it was a table-cut diamond, something with pearls around it, and Mary Rose took it with her when she eloped with the Duke of Suffolk. François I forever lamented its loss, and it's been since lost to history. I heard nothing of either of Mary Rose's daughters, Frances or Eleanor, inheriting it, so I get the feeling it might have been sold by Suffolk after Mary Rose's death in 1533. Just my tuppence.

Regards,
Arianwen
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Arianwen on September 09, 2005, 11:08:16 AM
Speaking of jewels, the Hope Diamond, etc, there was a fascinating programme on the History Channel on the Hope Diamond and whether it was part of the lost French Blue. They used digital images of each facet and drawings of the original blue diamond of 115 carats, the French Blue of 69 carats, and removed the 45 carat Hope Diamond from its setting to photograph it. The conclusion: the Hope Diamond was cut from the French Blue, which was in turn cut from the original. From the original 1668 blue diamond to the Hope Diamond, 80 carats were lost, and the Hope Diamond is still the largest blue diamond ever found. The programme even tried to see if other stones could have been cut from the 'scraps', and there wasn't enough to make even tiny stones. *sigh* What a loss...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6946421/ A bit more detailed about the process. :)

Regards,
Arianwen
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 09, 2005, 11:41:07 AM
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The Mirror of Naples, actually. I believe it was a table-cut diamond, something with pearls around it, and Mary Rose took it with her when she eloped with the Duke of Suffolk. François I forever lamented its loss, and it's been since lost to history. I heard nothing of either of Mary Rose's daughters, Frances or Eleanor, inheriting it, so I get the feeling it might have been sold by Suffolk after Mary Rose's death in 1533. Just my tuppence.

Regards,
Arianwen


LOL. I knew it was something to do with Italy . . . I heard that Henry, in return for allowing Mary and Charles's marriage to stand, took all of Mary's French jewels, including the Mirror . . .
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Arianwen on September 09, 2005, 11:53:04 AM
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LOL. I knew it was something to do with Italy . . . I heard that Henry, in return for allowing Mary and Charles's marriage to stand, took all of Mary's French jewels, including the Mirror . . .


I think it's that Henry insisted on Mary's behalf that all her jewels were gifts from Louis, and that she had every right to keep them. Then, she was gone before François had a chance to reclaim any of them. ;) Smart woman, I wouldn't have given up my jewels, either, if I'd had to put up with marriage to Louis...*shudders*

Regards,
Arianwen
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Kimberly on September 09, 2005, 12:19:08 PM
I understood that mary kept her french jewels but gave The Mirror of Naples  to Henry as part of the "payback" he demanded from Mary and Suffolk. the Chancellor of France valued it at 30,000 crowns.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Arianwen on September 09, 2005, 01:17:57 PM
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I understood that mary kept her french jewels but gave The Mirror of Naples  to Henry as part of the "payback" he demanded from Mary and Suffolk. the Chancellor of France valued it at 30,000 crowns.


That's quite possible, except I can't imagine Henry giving something like that up, and royal property at that point was still really well-documented. We don't hear of him wearing it or giving it to anyone else, which I find points away from the idea of Henry getting the Mirror. If Suffolk had it when Mary died, and he had married his own ward because he was desperate for money, selling the Mirror sounds likely, and explains how it was lost. Either way, we don't KNOW what happened to it after Mary left France.

Regards,
Arianwen
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 11, 2005, 10:47:28 AM
This is the Regent Diamond, which was acquired by Philippe II d'Orleans, Regent of France, and has since been set in Louis XV's crown, and in Napoleon's sword. It is now in the Louvre.

(http://www.gemnation.com/images/history/regent.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 11, 2005, 10:55:09 AM
Another pic of the lovely Hope Diamond:

(http://www.si.edu/siphotos/science-nature/HOPE.GIF)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 11, 2005, 11:10:11 AM
The Hope Diamond with a ring and earrings made from it:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v464/barbaramck/bucket2/bluetripdic.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 11, 2005, 12:11:27 PM
This is a talisman that Charlemagne had made for his wife:

(http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/images/AmuletCharMagn.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Robert_Hall on September 11, 2005, 12:53:11 PM
I MUST have that sapphire !
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 11, 2005, 04:22:48 PM
<rolls eyes> Alright Arianwen, we'll get you one. <says loudly> How much for the Grand Conde? What do you mean it's not for sale? Arianwen wants it! She must have it!  ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Arianwen on September 11, 2005, 04:52:20 PM
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<rolls eyes> Alright Arianwen, we'll get you one. <says loudly> How much for the Grand Conde? What do you mean it's not for sale? Arianwen wants it! She must have it!  ;) ;D ;D ;D


*goes into a corner and stamps foot repeatedly in a pout, and emerges with a sweetly innocent, angelic face* Are you SURE it's not for sale? Not even for me? ::)

As my husband says, just TRY refusing me then...lol

Regards,
Arianwen
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Helene on September 12, 2005, 01:29:13 AM
This diamond was stolen in 1926, the burglar climbed a tall tower for steal it, so if they resist to your charm, and if you are not  scared of heights... ;)

The diamond was found  rapidly after and now it is  still in the castle of Chantilly in "The cabinet des Gemmes".

A picture of the castle if you want to prepare the ground  ;):

http://www.naturepixel.com/chateau_chantilly_2.jpg
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 12, 2005, 10:58:19 AM
Eugenie's pearl tiara:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/lyzotchka1/eugenie.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Arianwen on September 12, 2005, 12:00:14 PM
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So THAT'S where it went......i must get it back!! IT'S MINE I SAY, MIIIIIIIIINE!!!! *stomps off into corner and starts throwing daggers at everyone* Get it back for me. Now!!!!!!  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


All right, little one, *I* already claimed it! I have seniority AND the prior claim, and I'm willing to defy my terror of heights to get it. Plus, I'm closer to France than you. ;) If you're particularly nice, I might let you borrow it, from time to time...8)

Also, I'm taking Eugénie's pearl tiara and Marie Amélie's sapphires, while I'm turning jewellery thief. You lot can battle it out over the rest.

Regards,
Arianwen
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: emeraldeyes on September 12, 2005, 01:13:14 PM
Goodness how my little jewel thread has grown!  Thank you all for the amazing pictures.   :o
Oooh that Grande Condé just makes my mouth water!  
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 12, 2005, 01:41:39 PM
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Goodness how my little jewel thread has grown!  Thank you all for the amazing pictures.   :o
Oooh that Grande Condé just makes my mouth water!  


Heehe, no prob emeraldeyes.  :) Glad you like.

And on a personal note to Arianwen and Grand Duchess Kimberly - I am closer to France than EITHER of you, and I'm thinking that my mum would love the Grand Conde for her birthday next year.  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on September 12, 2005, 05:20:33 PM
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All right, little one, *I* already claimed it! I have seniority AND the prior claim, and I'm willing to defy my terror of heights to get it. Plus, I'm closer to France than you. ;) If you're particularly nice, I might let you borrow it, from time to time...8)

Also, I'm taking Eugénie's pearl tiara and Marie Amélie's sapphires, while I'm turning jewellery thief. You lot can battle it out over the rest.

Regards,
Arianwen







That means I get Marie-Antoinette's earrings and the Hope Diamond. Haha!!! BTW, I am ready to steal Empress Eugenie's tiara first.....



Lieven, I could always use a jet!!! ;D ;D ;) Which is excactly what I'm gonna do....Toodles!!
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 13, 2005, 12:43:36 PM
I couldn't resist - another pic of the Grand Conde:

(http://famousdiamonds.tripod.com/condepinkdiamond.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 13, 2005, 12:48:02 PM
The Blue Heart, rumoured, but confirmed, to have been owned by Empress Eugenie:

(http://famousdiamonds.tripod.com/blueheartdiamond2.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 13, 2005, 12:49:32 PM
The Blue Magic Diamond, cut from the Hope Diamond, belonging to King Louis XIV:

(http://famousdiamonds.tripod.com/bluemagicdiamond.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 13, 2005, 12:51:47 PM
The Briolette of India, which belonged firstly to Eleanor of Aquitaine, and eventually to Henri II, who gave it to Diane de Poitiers.

(http://famousdiamonds.tripod.com/brioletteofindiadiamond.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 13, 2005, 12:58:28 PM
The Hortensia, bought by Louis XIV and later inherited by Napoleon III:

(http://famousdiamonds.tripod.com/hortensiadiamond2.jpg)

Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Helene on September 13, 2005, 01:30:34 PM
Those jewels are dazzlingly beautiful  :D, the Hortensia also called Diamant Rose is really splendid !
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: emeraldeyes on September 13, 2005, 03:16:41 PM
Mon Dieu!  These jewels are magnifique!  :o That briolette makes me swoon!!! :o

(...must go find my smelling salts...)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 13, 2005, 04:45:30 PM
While emeraldeyes recovers, here is the Sancy Diamond, bought by Henri IV:

(http://famousdiamonds.tripod.com/sancydiamond.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on September 14, 2005, 04:39:28 AM
Simply LOVE the Marie-Louise rubies. What a great present it would make for my 14th birthday...(hinthintnudgenudgewinkwink)


Does anyone have a close-up of Empress Eugenie's crown??
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 14, 2005, 09:53:37 AM
Helene, thanks for those pics!!  :)

Here's a slightly bigger pic of Eugenie's crown, Grand Duchess Kimberley:

(http://www.road-school.com/199x/pfcrown.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: emeraldeyes on September 14, 2005, 10:11:59 AM
Oh goodness, it's all too much, really...don't stop!
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: emeraldeyes on September 14, 2005, 01:18:50 PM
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Your knowledge in jewels are infallible, emeraldeyes and Tampabay  :) !
This diadem was originally mounted with emeralds, but emeralds were sold and replaced with turquoises.



Helene, you do flatter me!  If I have any knowledge at all it is due to the many, many learned contributors who post on this board.  I am just riding on coattails, my dear!  
It would have been amazing to this see piece with the emeralds.  The design is quite lovely IMHO.  TampaBay, we might have been cell-mates!  (Very well-dressed and accessorized jailbirds, natch.)
Thanks again to everyone for all of the pics you have posted so far! ;)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: TampaBay on September 14, 2005, 01:37:21 PM
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TampaBay, we might have been cell-mates!  (Very well-dressed and accessorized jailbirds, natch.)
Thanks again to everyone for all of the pics you have posted so far! ;)


Emeraldeyes,

I have never seen this tiara before.  It is simply stunning.  I place it second only to the Vladimir Tiara on my "must aquire" lists.

TampaBay
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 14, 2005, 02:13:06 PM
Don't worry emeraldeyes and TB - when you're under lock and key we'll still visit.  ;)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 14, 2005, 03:44:33 PM
The 'Tiffany Yellow Diamond' which belonged to Empress Eugenie but she sold it after her husband lost his throne in 1871.

(http://famousdiamonds.tripod.com/tiffanyyellowdiamond.jpg)

And the Wittlesbach Diamond, which belonged to Louis XIV:

(http://famousdiamonds.tripod.com/wittelsbachdiamond.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on September 14, 2005, 05:30:01 PM
My GOD!!! Look at that yellow diamond!!!! I think I shall faint!!


Thnx for the close-up of Empress Eugenie's crown.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 14, 2005, 05:33:56 PM
No problem - always happy to help.  :)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on September 17, 2005, 07:32:36 AM
Marie Louise's parure

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/pssmarieamelie/chaumet_history2.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 17, 2005, 06:56:39 PM
Lovely pic, GDK.  :D
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on September 17, 2005, 06:59:14 PM
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Lovely pic, GDK.  :D



Google is my little lifesaver. That's where I found the pic..... Or should I say "HUGE" lifesaver??
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Dmitry2 on September 17, 2005, 11:23:01 PM
I think Prince Lieven is mistaken.

The Tiffany was only discovered 7 years after Napoleon III's abdication and was sold directly to Tiffany's.  There was never another owner.  

It is similar in cut to the Regent diamond, however, which the Empress Eugenie did wear, but which was not sold by her and remains in the Louvre.

The Wittlesbach was never part of Louis XIV's collection.  

Perhaps there is some confusion with the Hope, which was part of that king's treasury.  

Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 18, 2005, 07:22:50 AM
You think so? Perhaps my source was wrong then?
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on September 21, 2005, 05:31:48 AM
One of Eugenie's hair jewels:

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/pssmarieamelie/hair-jewels.png)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: aleksandra on September 23, 2005, 04:23:28 PM
I am drooling. Gosh thats pretty, I wans it and keeps it for ever.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on September 24, 2005, 07:43:47 AM
Be careful--I might get there first...... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: emeraldeyes on September 29, 2005, 09:00:46 AM
Kimberley, maybe if we pool our resources we could buy... the smallest diamond on that tiara and share it!

Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on September 29, 2005, 05:05:44 PM
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Kimberley, maybe if we pool our resources we could buy... the smallest diamond on that tiara and share it!



Yepp!!! That is exactly what we shall do!!!
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 29, 2005, 05:06:55 PM
Unless Emeraldeyes is a great heiress and Duchess Kimberley really is a Duchess, I doubt you could afford even the frame!  ;)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on September 29, 2005, 05:12:52 PM
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Unless Emeraldeyes is a great heiress and Duchess Kimberley really is a Duchess, I doubt you could afford even the frame!  ;)




OI!!! No need to be so honest!!!
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: TampaBay on September 30, 2005, 08:47:48 AM
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Unless Emeraldeyes is a great heiress and Duchess Kimberley really is a Duchess, I doubt you could afford even the frame!  ;)


Well somtimes we must throw morals and common sense out the window and "steal" what we want.  

We will look truly regal and magnificent driving to the slammer and our mug shots will be "Royal Portrait" quality.  I think it would be worth to wear these tiaras for a couple hours.  If we are luck it might take a week for the police to catch up with us!

Ladies get your court dresses ready!  The heist goes down at midnight! ;D ;D ;D

TampaBay
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Ursula on October 01, 2005, 04:54:12 PM
Hy...
I love all your postings....and I`m very pleased that you visit my website,  but, (Duchess Kimberley and Helene)  please post a link to the sites in future, no copy,  that`s   o.k.  for me   ;)

http://www.royal-magazin.de/french/rubin-tiara-france.htm

http://www.royal-magazin.de/french/crown-jewels.htm


Ursula

Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Helene on October 02, 2005, 12:51:06 AM
Ok Ursula  ;) , your website is great, will you make a french version ?
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on October 02, 2005, 02:47:04 AM
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Hy...
I love all your postings....and I`m very pleased that you visit my website,  but, (Duchess Kimberley and Helene)  please post a link to the sites in future, no copy,  that`s   o.k.  for me   ;)

http://www.royal-magazin.de/french/rubin-tiara-france.htm

http://www.royal-magazin.de/french/crown-jewels.htm


Ursula






Shoot!!! I forgot about that......sorry.... :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Ursula on October 02, 2005, 03:29:24 AM
Hi Helene,
I don`t speak french
(only a little bit, not enaugh for website translations)
...but if anybody would translate the text (brilliant idea) I will add it of course  ::)
           
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: lancashireladandre on October 09, 2005, 01:51:46 PM
The american Nancy Langhorne Astor wore the sancy diamond as the centre stone of her tiara.It was said to have been a wedding present from her father-in-law the 1st Viscount Astor then one of the worlds richest men.After her death it was sold by her heirs and ended up back in the Louvre.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: grandduchessella on October 13, 2005, 04:35:29 PM
This is what it says. (I'm not very fluent on the provenance or identification of famous jewelry  :-/ )

the fifth largest pearl in the world and a crown at the Christie's auction house on October11, 2005.

The pearl, weighing 302.68 grams, formed part of the French crown jewels in 1811, was later owned by the Russian Youssoupov family. The pendant is expected to fetch between GBP 300,000 and GBP 480,000 (437,000 euros and 582,000 euros)

whilst the crown, which is set with 1,000 carats of white and yellow diamonds, is expected to fetch between GBP2,300,000 (3,347,540 euro) and GBP3,300,000 (4,803,133) at auction.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Decadence on November 12, 2005, 11:40:42 AM
Ok, maybe diamonds are a girls best friend,
but they are certainly mine as well! lol

OMG! *swoon*
the jewels are...*in indescribable silence*

ok, if emeraldeyes smashes the cases with some expensive vase stand or something, I'LL grab the swag, Prince, you be the limo getaway driver, and everyone else you can have the pleasure of sitting in the limo and watching me draping myself in jewellry and jittering so all the diamonds glisten mouthwateringly :D

By the way, where are all of these mouthwatering jewels? (LOL and I am planning on stealing them)
I [glb]must[/glb] see them! :D
xxx
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on November 12, 2005, 12:37:58 PM
LOL, sounds like a good plan to me.  ;D ;D

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure most of them are in the Louvre (and when I was there all I saw was the boring Mona Lisa!!  >:() ;)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: David_Pritchard on November 25, 2005, 10:43:23 PM
I have noted a number of references to the purchase of the Imperial Jewels of Napoleon III and Eugenie by Tiffany & Co. in 1883. This was not the first time that the company profited from the instabilty of the French government. In 1848, representatives of Charles Tiffany were in Paris for their annual buying trip, when the Paris mobs started to shake the reign of Louis-Phillippe to the ground. Fearing revolution and a pennyless exile, the Orleans Royal Family and other members of the nobility sold their regalia and jewels to the Tiffany & Co. representatives for about half of their true value.

David
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 30, 2005, 09:52:25 AM
I wonder after the histoical sale of the Sappaires from the collection of Queen Marie Amalie. How many historical pieces does the Orleans family ( Count of Paris branch) have ?  :(
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Decadence on December 03, 2005, 04:28:21 PM
Has anyone been on the Tiffany website? It is SO disappointing, it has really put me off the Tiffany & co brand because the jewellery is so unimpressive looking and yet so expensive...

ANYWAY! someone may of asked this before but is that a Fabergé elephant (e.g. like one of the ones the Maharaja's ordered?)

:D LOVING THIS TOPIC
MMMMMMMMMM JEWELS!!
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on December 05, 2005, 02:28:39 AM
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Has anyone been on the Tiffany website? It is SO disappointing, it has really put me off the Tiffany & co brand because the jewellery is so unimpressive looking and yet so expensive...




LOL--it is disappointing. Prefer to look at Cartier's website. Diamonds, these days, have turned into nothing special, excpet for royal stuff and the odd celeb engagment ring or two.... :(


Okies. Enough of my whinging. Back to royal jewels!
;D
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 07, 2005, 07:49:18 AM
Yes...to the jewels still owned by the French Bourbon family... ;)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: frohsdorf on January 08, 2006, 12:24:08 AM
Marie Antoinette's personal jewelry was packed and sent out of France secrely in 1791.  The boxes and caskets were received by the Queen's sister, Archduchess Marie Christine, in Brussels.  She later turned the jewels (and money) over to her nephew, Emperor Francis II of Austria.  Marie Antoinette's daughter, Marie Therese Charlotte de France (1778-1851), Duchesse d'Angouleme,  inherited her mother's jewels when she arrived in Vienna in 1796.  They remained in her personal possession during her many years of exile, both before and after the Bourbon Restoration in France.  At the time of her death in 1851 at Frohsdorf in Austria, Marie Therese had many of her jewels in her apartments at Frohsdorf, while others were kept at the Imperial Treasury in Vienna.  According to the terms of her July, 1851, will, the jewels were divided in thirds between her nephew, the Comte de Chambord, his wife, the Comtesse de Chambord, and his sister, the Duchesse de Parme.  Since the Chambords were childless, upon the Comtesse's death in 1886, all of Marie Antoinette's jewelry passed into the Bourbon Parma line.  Most pieces were left to the two daughters of the Duchesse de Parme:  Marguerite, Duchesse de Madrid, and Alice, Grand Duchesse de Tuscany.   Other pieces were left to the wife of Robert, Duc de Parme.   Marguerite and Alice received magnificent diamond necklaces once the property of Marie Antoinette (which can be seen in the portraits of the Duchesse d'Angouleme at Versailles today).  The Duchesse de Madrid's two daughters sold one of the diamond necklaces at Sothebys in 1937.  It was sold again in the early 1970s and the location is now unkown.  A pity that none of these magnificent pieces of the most famous French queen are not in the Louvre today.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 08, 2006, 09:06:18 AM
Sad...indeed. It would be a major work to put back togather the collection of Marie Antoinette.  ???
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eddie_uk on January 08, 2006, 10:24:20 AM
Very interesting thank you frohsdorf!!

I did read that Marie Therese received some of Madame Elisabeths jewels. Is their any truth in that?

Also at Madame Elisabeths trial they questioned her about her jewels, apparently she had sent them to her brother the Comte de Artois. Don't know if thats right... ???
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 08, 2006, 10:35:49 AM
I think her jewels should have went to Princess Marie Therese, her niece, whom she was devoted. Anyway she was one of the last to see her Aunt alive, and perhaps told her.  ::)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: frohsdorf on January 08, 2006, 11:30:09 AM
Unfortunately, I don't know what became of Madame Elisabeth's jewels.  One can assume they eventually came to Marie Therese, as the heiress of her parents' personal property (and almost certainly her aunt's, as well).  I do know Marie Therese sold a  magnificent ruby and diamond parure to her cousin, Francis II of Austria, in 1800-1801.  This belonged to Marie Antoinette.  It remained in the Habsburg family until WWI, at which time it disappeared or was stolen (as happened to many Habsburg pieces).  There is a portrait of Empress Elisabeth of Austria wearing this parure.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on January 08, 2006, 11:32:48 AM
Thanks for the info Frohsdorf! And welcome!  :D
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: frohsdorf on January 08, 2006, 11:46:59 AM
Thank you!  I have extensive background in French history and the Bourbon dynasty in particular.  I have visited many of the European sites connected with the exiled Bourbons and have visited some of their descendents, as well.  This discussion board is very interesting!
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Prince_Lieven on January 08, 2006, 11:48:27 AM
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Thank you!  I have extensive background in French history and the Bourbon dynasty in particular.  I have visited many of the European sites connected with the exiled Bourbons and have visited some of their descendents, as well.  This discussion board is very interesting!


Ooh, we look forward to your contributions very much then!!  ;D :D :D
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: lancashireladandre on January 08, 2006, 01:32:08 PM
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(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/emeraldeyes1969/eugeniesemeralds.jpg)

drool dripping off my chin...

This diadem was made between 1819 & July 1820  for The Duchesse de Angouleme.The stones were from the crown collection and included a central shallow emerald of 15:93 carats,2 smaller stones of 14:19 and 14:13 and another 37 emeralds plus 1,031 diamonds.This diadem later became a favourite of the Empress Eugenie who with her red hair particularly suited the vivid green stones.Sold in the great sale of the French crown jewels it became the property of the Lambton family,Earls of Durham.In 1982 ,it was exhibited in the "Treasure Houses Of Britain" exhibition in Washington DC.Scince then it has returned to the Louvre.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: lancashireladandre on January 08, 2006, 01:45:17 PM
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Very interesting thank you frohsdorf!!

I did read that Marie Therese received some of Madame Elisabeths jewels. Is their any truth in that?

Also at Madame Elisabeths trial they questioned her about her jewels, apparently she had sent them to her brother the Comte de Artois. Don't know if thats right... ???*

Madame Elisabeth's gems were taken out of France with the Queens jewels by Leonard the Hairdresser at the time of the flight to Varennes.Marie Therese was the natural heir to the gems...Indeed Elisabeth seems to have been the central influential character in her neice's life.During the course of the long years of the first exile,MT was obliged to sell numerous items from the combined collection.The rubies went to the Austrian crown,the huge earrings were bought by Princess Tatiana Youssoupoff ( they are now in the Smithsonian)various other dazzling items allegedly from the collection,ended up in the caskets of Vanderbilts,Astors,Maharajah's,Barbara Hutton and now Queen Elizabeth II......
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: frohsdorf on January 08, 2006, 07:39:34 PM
The largest and finest diamond necklace once owned by Marie Antoinette passed through the Bourbon line to Prince Don Jaime de Bourbon (1870-1931), who died unmarried.  He left it to his two sisters, Archduchess Blanca of Austria and Princess Beatrice de Bourbon-Massimo.  The sisters sold it at Sothebys in 1937, where it was purchased an Indian Maharaja.  That family then sold it again in 1971 or 1973.  The current location is unknown.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 08, 2006, 08:36:16 PM
Thanks for the information ! Love royal jewelry investigation... ;D
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: lancashireladandre on January 10, 2006, 09:19:07 AM
In Ian Vorres "The Last Grand Duchess".The Tsar's younger sister GD Olga Alexandrovna mentions that on her marriage to Prince Peter of Oldenburg,his mother (Nee Princess Eugenie of Leutchenberg) showered her with gems including the Ruby tiara that had come down to her from her great grandmother the Empress Josephine.On Olga's divorce in 1916 she returned the gems and it is stated that the proceeds of the sale of these,kept the Oldenburgs in comfort in exile (seem to remember that the couple settled in Biarritz where the Princess for long an invalid died in the late 20's.her husband survived both wife & son dying circa 1932).Does anyone know if the tiara survived intact?.With so many other of the Empress's gems surviving in the royal Scandanavian collections thanks to other descendants,it would be interesting to know the ruby tiara's fate,
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eddie_uk on January 10, 2006, 12:36:47 PM
Thanks for the info guys, I did read Madame Elisabeths jewels went to her neice which is only right.

Thank you for posting the pic of the diadem made for The Duchesse de Angouleme. I'm suprised she purchased it as I got the impression that clothes and jewels didn't interest her. You would have thought she had enough jewels but it's good she treated herself and why not!!  :D :D
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 11, 2006, 09:12:38 PM
Yes it was one of the few bright lights in such a sad, wasted life.  :'(
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Zanthia on March 13, 2006, 04:55:02 PM
Beautiful pictures, imagine to wear those jewels ::).
But I think there is something sad about jewels in a montre. They were made to be used, not just lie there and collecting dust in a museum, although it's great that we can see them closely (and almost hypnotized by them). Of course there aren't anyone worthy to wear the french jewels now, but in countries where the monarchy still excist, it should be like here in Denmark: The crown jewels are daily on display for everyone to see, but still in use by the Queen on special occasions.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 14, 2006, 06:16:13 AM
Apart from Queen Marie Amelie's celebrated sapphires. I wonder how much historical jewels does the House of Orleans left...?  ???
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Alexandre64 on November 16, 2007, 03:54:01 AM
 

In the fall of the Second Empire, the Crown Jewels were composed of:
51 403 Diamonds, brilliant cut .
21 119 Diamonds, rose-cut .
2 962  Pearls.
507 Rubis  - 136 sapphires - 250 emeralds.
528 Turquoise  - 22 Opals - 235 amethyst.
500 Other stones.
Or: 77662 stones and pearls..

The gems in the gallery of Apollo
(DC) = Diamonds owned by the Crown.
Le Régent (DC) – Le Sancy (DC) - The Pink Diamond « Hortensia » (DC) -
Spinel « Côte de Bretagne » (DC).
Ornament sapphires: Total of 42 sapphires - 2147 diamonds.
Tiara: 24 sapphires and 1083 diamonds.
Necklace: 8 sapphires and 631 diamonds.
A pair of earrings: (2 sapphires and 59 diamonds) x 2.
Large pin: 4 sapphires and 263 diamonds.
A pair of small pin: (1 sapphire and 26 diamonds) x 2.
A pair of bracelets from the Duchess of Angoulême (DC)
Total de 72 rubis et 420 brillants
The crown of the Empress Eugénie: 212 pearls and 1998 brightest. (DC)
A pair of earrings Josephine: Total: 2 pearls and 52 diamonds.
The Crown of the Empress Eugénie: 2490 brightest and 56 emeralds.
Broche-pendentif Eugénie: 85 diamonds. (DC)
Tiara emeralds from the Duchess of Angoulême (DC)
40 emeralds-1031 brightest.
Ornament emeralds of Marie-Louise: 38 emeralds -1 246 diamonds.
Necklace: 32 emeralds and 1138 diamonds.
A pair of earrings: (3 emeralds and 54 diamonds) x 2.
Large plate of Odre of the Holy Spirit: 400 bright and ruby.
Order of the Elephant from Denmark: 2 rubies and 142 diamonds. (DC)
The Show of the Dey of Algiers: 265 diamonds.
Eagle Poland: 1 garnet and 149 rubies, emeralds and pearls.

Either: 42 sapphires-76 ruby-154 emeralds-214 beads - 7789 diamonds.
(+ 150 stones and pearl of the Eagle of Poland)
Total: 8425 stones and pearls.

Stones and gems from the jewels in the crown. Sold at the Ecole des Mines in 1887. Friedel Edmond, director of the school.
-A bright-square former size.
- A bright flat oval.
- 173 pearls breakthroughs-100 beads smaller - 642 small pearls.
- 46 emeralds balls breakthroughs.
- 16 emeralds from the imperial crown.
- 34 emeralds smaller-177 amethysts Siberia.
- 7 big pink topaz from Brazil-52 topaz smaller.
Either 1249 stones and pearls with a value of 25176, 93 Francs.


In 1887, some stones exceptional (8 and 48 shiny, or 56 stone) were assigned to the National Museum of Natural History in Paris.
The Grand Saphir of Louis XIV ( "Ruspoli" 136 cts).
The Topaz Louis XIV (28.10 carats).
The Diamant-portrait of the Empress Marie-Louise.
The Opal of Louis XVIII (77 cts) .. Surrounded by many brilliant (48).
The Saphir bicolor-diamond-Daffodil- Emeraude of Louis XIV (17 cts).
The Amethyst of Marie-Louise. Remembrance of the ornament for Nitot delivered by the empress.

Either a grand total of more than 9630 stones and pearls.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Mari on November 16, 2007, 05:24:57 AM
Thank you so much for the list! I am sad so many of the wonderful images are gone.....but at least the earrings Marie Antoinette owned are still there.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Alexandre64 on November 16, 2007, 07:16:05 AM
Hello, I know a link, the site pictures of the National Museums, and the "party" Malmaison, you can see old ornaments, I add this link if you might be interested in her:
http://www.photo.rmn.fr/cf/htm/CSearchT.aspx?Round=2&Total=4391&FP=89512593&E=22S39UW21TLO4&SID=22S39UW21TLO4&New=T&Page=56 (ftp://http://www.photo.rmn.fr/cf/htm/CSearchT.aspx?Round=2&Total=4391&FP=89512593&E=22S39UW21TLO4&SID=22S39UW21TLO4&New=T&Page=56)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 19, 2007, 12:43:44 AM
Unable to accress... :(
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Alexandre64 on November 19, 2007, 07:34:23 AM
You go to "search", you type "Bijoux de la couronne", "bijoux des reines et Impératrices de Franceé" or "Malmaison", "click on" more than 500 images "then ur research
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Alexandre64 on November 19, 2007, 07:40:32 AM
www.photo.rmn.fr (http://www.photo.rmn.fr)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on April 27, 2008, 11:22:11 PM
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The French Crown Jewels
by Bernard Morel


this book is absolutely amazing.     it's huge -- oversize, 420 pages & almost every one is illustrated.    i


here are the fotos from the 1884 exhibition of the crown jewels (some are familiar, but others, maybe not so much):

click on images for larger versions

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/10-1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/10-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/9.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/9.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/15-1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/15-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/14-1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/14-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/12-1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/12-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/11-1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/11-1.jpg)
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incidentally, (i tried to find the thread but couldn't) someone posted this foto (taken by Berthaud in 1887) showing a diamond tiara & 2 bandaus idenfiying it as once belonging to the Russian imperial family.    i'd like to correct that:   it was actually part of the french Crown Jewels & never belonged to the Romanov's.   according to morel, it was made by Bapst in 1863, and had been inspired by one owned by the then empress of russia.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/23-1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/23-1.jpg)



Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on April 28, 2008, 12:03:58 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/greekkeytiara.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/greekkeytiara.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/pearlnecklace.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/pearlnecklace.jpg)

Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on April 28, 2008, 12:08:25 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/turquoisepartofparure.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/turquoisepartofparure.jpg)
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turquoise parure
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/turqoisetiara.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/turqoisetiara.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on April 28, 2008, 12:18:06 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/rubytiara.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/rubytiara.jpg)
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ruby parure
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/rubiespartofparure.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/rubiespartofparure.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on April 28, 2008, 12:23:49 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/sapphiretiarafromparure.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/sapphiretiarafromparure.jpg)
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sapphire parure
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/sappires.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/sappires.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on April 28, 2008, 12:35:56 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/currantleaves4.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/currantleaves4.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/currantleaves2.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/currantleaves2.jpg)
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part of the currant leaf parure
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/currantleaves3c.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/currantleaves3c.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Mari on April 28, 2008, 03:34:38 AM
Beautiful! Are any of the dates on the Jewels earlier than the 1800's?
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Norbert on May 08, 2008, 04:16:19 AM
Yes there is a history of all the crowns...very good book and worth the expense.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Alejandro Spain on January 25, 2010, 10:23:03 AM
Hello! What about posting here private jewels belonged to Orleáns family and his members? :D

Helene of Orleáns, Duchess of Aosta:

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5011/301293834672298faee8o.jpg)

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3918/2735302783ca1c1a012co.jpg)

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5899/15020v.jpg)

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8573/3528478726accf4de2a4.jpg)

-Louise of Orleáns
 
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6346/louiseyoung.jpg)

-Two social events:

(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5707/69607370.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5516/52458595.jpg)

-Duchess of Guise:

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/504/gre00333031.jpg)

(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3995/1aaaxabcd.jpg)

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9709/isabelleb.jpg)

-Tiara/necklace that belongs to Duchess of Montpensier:

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9392/diademe.jpg)

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3264/buqphtqbgkkgrhgohdcekjw.jpg)

-Duchess of Chartres:

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8633/1844francoise02.jpg)

-Françoise of Orleáns:

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9855/franoiseoffranceprinces.jpg)

-"Peigne" of diamonds:

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/636/peigne2.jpg)

(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/6205/annej.jpg)

-Parures of sapphires:

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1183/saphirorleans2.jpg)

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8411/saphirorleans5.jpg)

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3982/saphirorleans1.jpg)

(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2835/saphirorleans4e.jpg)

Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: CountessKate on January 26, 2010, 07:46:07 AM
I've always hated the large tiara of Helene, Duchess of Aosta (4th from the top).  It looks like someone chopped it in half.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: HSH The Duchess of Bourbon on January 26, 2010, 10:44:25 AM
the second set of sapphires are beautiful <3
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: ashdean on January 26, 2010, 11:01:38 AM
Francoise of Orleans,Princess Christopher of Greece, wears the suite of diamonds and turqouise her husband inherited from his mother Queen Olga.Sadly sometime after their untimely deaths their son Prince Michaels trustees were obliged to sell them
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 26, 2010, 12:57:04 PM
Francoise looks like a very interesting woman with good taste in jewels. Too bad Prince Michael did not put that information in his books on royal jewels.

I like the pieces with the "Lilies of France". That seem to be a great theme in the Orleans pieces (from tiaras, diadems (crowns or circlets), chocker and bracelet clasps, brooches...etc). Even Irene, Duchess of Sporleto owns a huge booch of that motive.
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: Alejandro Spain on January 29, 2010, 02:50:45 PM
Gift of the French monarchists to Countess of Paris in 1931:

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3558/3012939222dc1e7bee42o.jpg)

Two sapphires parures:

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1919/2615787410094285158eomq.jpg)

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/701/2776879870094285158ephf.jpg)

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5859/2695206190094285158fixl.jpg)

:)

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6110/2209963180094285158zfxb.jpg)

The diadem that Coty gave to Countess of Paris in 1931:

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2379/anaom.jpg)

Musy tiara belonged to Aosta branch:

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2561/amadeoclaudia8zb6.jpg)

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9822/amadeoclaudia1qg7.jpg)


Peigne:

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/636/peigne2.jpg)

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6825/carlosbs27an.jpg)

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8931/carlosbs22.jpg)

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2451/anao1.png)

(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6205/annej.jpg)

A tiara of the collection of Van Cleef and Arpels that I have read that is dated of the First Empire:

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/662/115aj.jpg)

(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5558/114b.jpg)

Another tiara by Chaumet. Chaumet lent it to her:

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3711/tg004364.jpg)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1482/comtessedeparis.jpg)
Title: Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 21, 2010, 05:32:41 PM
Everything is utterly, utterly gorgeous! *swoon*
Such amazing craftsmanship!