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Title: Jewels of Norway
Post by: emeraldeyes on September 29, 2005, 02:40:34 PM
Why is it so difficult to find out anything about the Norwegian jewels?  
I have searched the internet and haven't found anything substantial.  Can anyone help with pics?

Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: Prince_Lieven on September 29, 2005, 04:56:56 PM
Hmm . . . I can see why you're having problems. Surely the crown jewels were only created in 1905 and since there hasn't been a coronation since . . . do they even still exist?
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: kmerov on September 29, 2005, 06:05:11 PM
The crown jewels were created in the 19 century and they still exist. They were used by the kings of Sweden-Norway before Haakon and Mauds coronation.
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: grandduchessella on October 02, 2005, 07:59:09 PM
Are you talking of the crown jewels or of the royal jewels of Norway in particular?
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: emeraldeyes on October 03, 2005, 08:52:43 AM
I have had no luck whatsoever with any Norwegian jewels.  Is their jewel casket small?


Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: emeraldeyes on October 03, 2005, 04:03:23 PM

Mette-Marit in some jewels that I have never seen before- anyone got some info?

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/emeraldeyes1969/1095798068mmmysteryjewels.jpg)

Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: lancashireladandre on October 04, 2005, 04:23:02 AM
There was an article in Majesty magazine this summer about the Norwegian jewels. The emerald set originally belonged to the Empress Josephine and passed via her grand daughters the widowed Empress of Brazil and then her sister Queen Josephine of Sweden eventually to Harald's mother Crown Princess Martha who wore them in 1953 to the coronation of Elizabeth II. The other diamond tiara ia also of Napoleonic connexion and was given to Martha by her aunt Princess Dagmar of Denmark who had inherited it via her own mother, The Swedish born Queen Louise of Denmark. There is also a diamond & pearl tiara with a interchangable centre. A copy of an original belonging to Queen Maud. The original being stolen while lodged at a famous jewellers for repair.Lastly there is a broad diamond  band which has been worn with or without a set of diamond maltese crosses along the top. This belonged to Queen Alexandra & must have been among Queen Maud's inheritance in 1925.
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: grandduchessella on October 04, 2005, 08:31:42 AM
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There is also a diamond & pearl tiara with a interchangable centre. A copy of an original belonging to Queen Maud. The original being stolen while lodged at a famous jewellers for repair.


This tiara of diamonds & pearls had an ornate front design. Maud was given the tiara as a wedding present from her parents in 1896.  The tiara was a great favorite of Maud's and she was photographed in it often. It passed to her only son Olav and eventually to the current Queen, Sonja. Sonaj also seemed very fond of it and the family was understandably upset when it was stolen in 1993. the tiara had been left in the care of the promiment form of Garrard's for maintenance and was stolen somehow. Garrard's tried to keep a lid on it but Scotland Yard gave the theft wide publicity in hopes of it turning up which it never did.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tiam11.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia4e1.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia9f1.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia9g1.jpg)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: grandduchessella on October 04, 2005, 08:34:09 AM
To replace the lost tiara, Garrards endeavored to find pearls & diamonds like those in the original tiara. They then set about making a replacement which was worn for the first time in 1996 on a state visit to the Netherlands. In the copy, there's still the ornate front design but now it is removable and just the base worn. This is how Princess Martha-Louise wore it at her wedding.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia9b1.jpg)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: emeraldeyes on October 04, 2005, 08:52:12 AM
Thank you GDella and lancashirelad for the info.  You have just increased my knowledge exponentially!
What a shame about Maud's tiara.  I suppose these things happen from time to time, but Garrard must have been absolutely mortified with the bad publicity.  Is it thought to have been an 'inside' job?  

lancashire lad, I think I know the tiara of Alexandra's to which you refer.  It is a lovely piece, and I have often wondered about its current whereabouts.  If it had still been in the possession of HM QEII, I thought it might perhaps grace the head of the Duchess of Cornwall in the near future, but alas, it would seem that will not be the case.  Perhaps Mette-Marit will dust it off instead!  (And it will look better on her anyway, IMHO)
Thanks again to both of you, and if anything more turns up, please post! :)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: grandduchessella on October 04, 2005, 09:12:40 AM
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The emerald set originally belonged to the Empress Josephine and passed via her grand daughters the widowed Empress of Brazil and then her sister Queen Josephine of Sweden eventually to Harald's mother Crown Princess Martha who wore them in 1953 to the coronation of Elizabeth II.


This very beautiful emerald parure, by the jeweller Bapst, could be the most expensive set of jewels in the Norwegian family. It consists of a tiara, a necklace, two brooches and earrings.

The first person to be photographed with this tiara was Queen Sophia of Sweden, the wife of Oskar II (then also King of Norway) who owned both this set and a similar set of sapphires--currently worn by her Swedish descendants and known as the Leuchtenberg sapphires. These 2 parures went to her daughters-in-law, Ingeborg (wife of Prince Carl and mother of Crown Princess Martha of Norway) and Victoria (consort of Gustav V). Martha was given the set upon the birth of her son Harold in 1937.

Queen Sophie of Sweden
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/emerald-21.jpg)

Ingeborg
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/d5110.jpg)

Crown Princess Martha
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/HU0429532.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/nor20mC3A4rtha20emeralds.jpg)

Queen Sonja
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia2c1.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia2x1.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia2h1.jpg)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: grandduchessella on October 04, 2005, 09:31:27 AM
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Lastly there is a broad diamond band which has been worn with or without a set of diamond maltese crosses along the top. This belonged to Queen Alexandra & must have been among Queen Maud's inheritance in 1925.


This tiara is simple diamond bandeau with detachable Maltese crosses. As Maud embraced the styles of the 1920s, she seemed to prefer the simpler lines of this tiara rather than the more ornate ones she previously was seen in. It's now often seen in simply the bandeau form.

Queen Maud
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tiam141.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/Maltherser20Diamond20Tiara20Queen20.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tiam41.jpg)

Queen Sonja
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia8d1.jpg)

Martha Louise
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia8e1.jpg)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: grandduchessella on October 04, 2005, 09:47:21 AM
I think this could be the diamond tiara that once belonged to Queen Desiree of Sweden. If so, it would've come through Crown Princess Martha as well.

Queen Louise of Denmark (born Princess of Sweden)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/louisedenmark1851-3.jpg)

Queen Sonja
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia1d1.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia1b1.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tia1f1.jpg)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: grandduchessella on October 04, 2005, 09:51:49 AM
Queen Maud wearing the Maltese Cross tiara and Crown Princess Martha wearing the Emerald tiara
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/File1363coronation1937.jpg)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: grandduchessella on October 04, 2005, 09:59:47 AM
Queen Maud

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tiam71.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tiam101.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tiam81.jpg)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: emeraldeyes on October 04, 2005, 12:48:57 PM
This was the tiara I was thinking of, but those uprights don't look like Maltese crosses, they look like fleur de lys, although the base looks right... :-/

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/emeraldeyes1969/ALAE20_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: lancashireladandre on October 04, 2005, 01:03:40 PM
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This was the tiara I was thinking of, but those uprights don't look like Maltese crosses, they look like fleur de lys, althought the base looks right... :-/

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/emeraldeyes1969/ALAE20_1.jpg)

That is the same tiara.There must have been various motifs to wear along the bandeau.Indeed Alexandra had a set of embellishments (scrolls) to wear between the fleur-de-lys !!!!
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: emeraldeyes on October 04, 2005, 02:39:51 PM
Not the best pic, but it seems to show the Maltese crosses.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/emeraldeyes1969/maltese.jpg)

So, that mystery is settled then!
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: Daniela on October 07, 2005, 02:05:57 AM
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Why is it so difficult to find out anything about the Norwegian jewels?  
I have searched the internet and haven't found anything substantial.  Can anyone help with pics?


Emeraldeyes, look at this link: http://www.angelfire.com/la3/lone_mor/kongelige.html

Daniela
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: lancashireladandre on November 06, 2005, 05:32:23 AM
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I don;t think the crown princess wears any historical jewels yet...

The Crown Princess has been seen wearing a small tiara/necklace that (is said) was originally a present to Queen Maud from her paternal grandmother Queen Victoria on her 18th birthday
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 06, 2005, 06:46:20 AM
I would like be a necklace originally as I have never seen Maud wore it before in a photo...
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: lancashireladandre on November 06, 2005, 11:45:43 AM
The small jewel is known as the Vifte tiara and has been worn in both forms by the current Queen.
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: Frederika on November 16, 2005, 08:19:18 AM
i think its good Mette Marit does not were that horrible emerald tiara it would look terrible on her.
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 16, 2005, 09:43:44 AM
She will have to wear it as Queen.
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: grandduchessella on November 16, 2005, 10:45:04 AM
Will she? Won't it be merely an option. There are other jewels available--Queen Sonja just happens to prefer the emerald one and thus is most frequently seen in it.

Queen Maud's diamond & pearl tiara (shown on the first page) would be nice. It's ornate but not overly large. (It's the one that's been reproduced after the theft)

Queen Maud's Malteser Cross tiara--worn with just the bandeau.

The Diamond Tiara that came from Queen Louise of Denmark.

All of these would suit MM.
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: grandduchessella on November 16, 2005, 10:51:42 AM
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I would like be a necklace originally as I have never seen Maud wore it before in a photo...


Queen Maud wearing the Vifte tiara

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/vifte-31.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/jewels/tiam111.jpg)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: Luca_ADE on February 24, 2006, 07:02:17 AM
Some one have photo about Norway crown jewels as crown, orb, sceptre, coronation robe...thank you.
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on June 29, 2009, 09:50:38 PM
Response to Reply #26:  Luca_ADE, you will find clear color photos/black and white and information that you seek on pages 88 & 89 ("Northern Europe (Norway)" in the relatively inexpensive book, "Crown Jewels of Europe," by Prince Michael of Greece, 1983, Harper & Row publishers, New York. The ISBN 0-06-015201-X.  It may be out-of-print now.  Perhaps in a library near you?      Regards,   AP.
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on December 08, 2009, 06:09:23 AM
After the coronation centennary in 2006 a beautiful new site (and exhibition in the coronation city Trondheim) about the Norwegian regalia was launched with many pictures. Here is the English version: https://info.ovf-nett.no/index.gan?id=27097 (https://info.ovf-nett.no/index.gan?id=27097)
Title: Re: Jewels of Norway
Post by: darius on March 10, 2013, 08:02:45 AM
Ive just seen a photo of Crown Princess Martha wearing QVs Turkish earrings which apparently were worn at her wedding to Prince Albert.  How strange that these were not kept in the line of succession to the UK crown and went off to Norway.  Pic was on A Tiara A Day site.