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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Balkan Royal Families => Topic started by: Angie_H on October 28, 2005, 09:14:48 AM

Title: Books on the Balkan Royals
Post by: Angie_H on October 28, 2005, 09:14:48 AM
I recently took out "The Story of My Life" by Queen Marie of Romania. But the book starts mid-life. There was nothing about her childhood, early marriage, etc. Was there 2 volumes to this book? If there is I want to get that one too.
Thanks!
Angie
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Post by: TampaBay on October 28, 2005, 12:26:29 PM
YES!  The original book was two volumes.  There is a new edition on sale on amazon.com which contains exerts from her diaries not published in the first two volumes.

TampaBay
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Post by: ilyala on October 28, 2005, 03:14:18 PM
i have an older version of the book that has 3 volumes: volume 1 the childhood, volume 2, being a princess of romania, volume 3 being a queen upto 1918, where it stops.
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Post by: TampaBay on October 29, 2005, 07:20:53 AM
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i have an older version of the book that has 3 volumes: volume 1 the childhood, volume 2, being a princess of romania, volume 3 being a queen upto 1918, where it stops.


Marie's book was published differently in Europe & USA.

I believe the Europe edition had three volumes and the USA Edition had two voulmes but I may be mistaken!

TampaBay
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Post by: Marlene on October 31, 2005, 09:58:47 PM
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Marie's book was published differently in Europe & USA.

I believe the Europe edition had three volumes and the USA Edition had two voulmes but I may be mistaken!

TampaBay


yes,  this is true -- 3 vols in the UK, and 2 in the USA, but  all the same material
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Post by: L. on November 02, 2005, 09:38:37 AM
What's the very last sentence of the last volume?
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Post by: Teddy on February 07, 2006, 02:24:11 PM
What are the titles of these volumes?
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 07, 2006, 07:12:31 PM
I think they should be the same title but volume 1 or 2 ?
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Post by: ilyala on February 08, 2006, 07:56:37 AM
yep... story of my life volume 1, 2,3 ... :P
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 08, 2006, 09:22:22 AM
American or British version.  ::)
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Post by: Laura_ on February 08, 2006, 02:55:06 PM
and there was Ordeal....i think this coincides with the third volume,her memoirs during the war
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 08, 2006, 07:56:01 PM
or American edition no. 2 ?  ???
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Post by: Laura_ on February 11, 2006, 05:02:52 AM
could well be that too...
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Post by: Linnea on May 27, 2006, 12:11:19 PM
Hello,

has somebody read this book? What´s your opinion on it? Is it a kind of "photo album"? Thankies! :)
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Post by: grandduchessella on May 27, 2006, 12:35:33 PM
It's a really good book and, yes, it does take the form of a large, coffe-table size photo album. It has just tons of great photos. The publisher, Leppi, also did Romanovs: Love, Power and Tragedy, so if you've seen that one you know what the Nikola & Milena book looks like. It's has glossy pages, all with photos on them and the text isn't straight biographical, it's more like individual essays that trace the family and Nikola's reign. There are sections on each of their children, though a disappointingly small amount on Anna, who married Franz Joseph of Battenberg. The subtitle given on the cover says "The Rise and Fall of Montengro's Royal Family told through Family Albums and Diaries". It's a little less than 350 pages.

The ISBN (for anyone interested) is 0952164442.
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Post by: Ilana on May 27, 2006, 01:51:17 PM
I've always been under the impression that not much was known about Franzjos and Anna, and their life together.  Mostly, of course, because it was a private life.
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Post by: Agneschen on May 27, 2006, 02:16:22 PM
It is a great book IMO : interesting text & wonderful pictures !
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Post by: grandduchessella on May 27, 2006, 03:37:34 PM
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I've always been under the impression that not much was known about Franzjos and Anna, and their life together.  Mostly, of course, because it was a private life.

I was just disappointed that with usuing family albums and all that there weren't more pictures of the couple.  :( The ones they had were nice though.
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Post by: Linnea on June 10, 2006, 01:03:29 PM
My copy arrived today - and I do already now love it! So many beautiful and unknown pictures, simply marvellous. :)
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Post by: VN on October 09, 2006, 12:00:02 PM
Does anybody know about a bio of Alexander von Battenberg which has been published in Bulgaria? I know all the ones that have been pubished in Germany. Maybe after his death a bio was written ?
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Post by: Linnea on October 09, 2006, 01:58:15 PM
There are Knjaz' Aleksandr I. B¤ulgarskij <1879 - 1886> by Golovin published in 1897, Knjaz Aleksand¤ur I Batenberg glavnokomanduva¤st by Petko Peev published in 1939 and some more with even longer titles.
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Post by: VN on October 10, 2006, 07:47:10 AM
There are Knjaz' Aleksandr I. B¤ulgarskij <1879 - 1886> by Golovin published in 1897, Knjaz Aleksand¤ur I Batenberg glavnokomanduva¤st by Petko Peev published in 1939 and some more with even longer titles.


Danke Linnea. Where could I find the other books with 'even longer titles'? I know the one from Golowine, it is also published in german. Petko Beev I don't know.
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Post by: Linnea on October 10, 2006, 10:12:15 AM
Keine Ursache. :)
There is also Pravda o Bolgarii. Zapiski o¤cevidca. by Potockij (1887) and Knjaz Aleksand¤ar Batenberg. Istinata za caruvaneto mu v B¤algarija by Koch (1994).
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Post by: miki_nastya on March 09, 2007, 03:03:43 AM
  what do you think about the book " The last romantic" by Hannah Pakula ? Its a biography of Missy.
        I started reading it yesterday. I think is prety good.
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Post by: TampaBay on March 09, 2007, 05:50:49 AM
One of the best Royal biographies ever written.  Hannah Pakula's work/research is on the same level as Robert Massie's.

However, please sed that Ms. Pakula did not havre access to all of the letters as discussedin this thread elsewhere in the Balkan Section of the forum.

TampaBay
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Post by: Laura_ on March 09, 2007, 07:41:20 AM
its great, one of the best bios i've ever read  :) i'm sure you'll love it too  ;)
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Post by: Michael II on March 09, 2007, 05:50:40 PM
Execellent book, thoroughly enjoyed it. :)
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Post by: ilyala on March 12, 2007, 02:59:22 AM
i think it's the best biography i've ever read of her...
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Post by: imperial angel on March 15, 2007, 10:11:23 AM
I read it long ago, but in my opinion it is better than the Elsberry ( is that how you spell it?) biography. I really understood Missy's character after reading this book, and it does a good job of helping you learn about her somewhat complex but always interesting personality and life. She was always popular, in contrast to her sister.
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Post by: Laura_ on March 15, 2007, 10:51:01 AM
i think another great bio ,better than Elsberry's book, is Guy Gauthier's Missy, Reine de Roumanie-very nice pics as well  :)
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Post by: miki_nastya on March 24, 2007, 02:48:51 PM
Can you tell me who is about here:
 " Her entuziasm was remarcated by his younger russian  cousin Grand Duches Maria,who was saved from Odessa along her husband by Joe Boyle, who bring them to Bucharest to live with the queen"
       Who is this Grand Duchess Maria???? ???
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Post by: amelia on March 24, 2007, 03:58:20 PM
This is Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna (the younger), daughter of Grand Duke Paul Alexandrovitch.

Amelia
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Post by: ilyala on March 25, 2007, 07:02:13 AM
Can you tell me who is about here:
 " Her entuziasm was remarcated by his younger russian  cousin Grand Duches Maria,who was saved from Odessa along her husband by Joe Boyle, who bring them to Bucharest to live with the queen"
       Who is this Grand Duchess Maria???? ???

i believe maria pavlovna stayed with missy for quite a while. she was a fan of missy's, if i remember correctly.
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Post by: TampaBay on March 25, 2007, 07:11:38 AM
ilaya,

You are correct, Marie Pavlovna was a big fan of Missy's.  I think Marie Pavlovna stayed with Missy for almost a year.

TampaBay
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Post by: miki_nastya on March 26, 2007, 01:56:00 PM
 There was also a part where it's sayed that king Alexander of Iugoslav (Mignon husband) was in loved with a daugher of the tsar. They are refering to OTMA, because it's sayed that he love her until his dead in 1918.
     I wonder wich of OTMA is refering ???
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Post by: TampaBay on March 26, 2007, 07:42:25 PM
It was Olga!!!

TampaBay
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Post by: miki_nastya on May 17, 2007, 04:16:56 AM
      It was a splendit book ! I learn more about my country history. It also help me to do a project for my history class about Missy. It's so sad that few people of my school know who she was. :'(
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Post by: Rachael89 on July 06, 2008, 05:34:22 AM
Hi Everyone

The other day I brought a book called A Biographer's Notebook, mainly because there was one relatively lengthy section in it about Queen Marie of Romania. Even better was that it included quite a few letters she had written to a man in a America she never met but nonetheless found herself connected to.

I found the letters extremely interesting and they gave me a fascinating insight into Marie's personality asnd opinions. For example, she talked about her dislike of Carmen Sylva's (sp?) fairy tales (she found them too dense and preferred those written by Oscar Wilde), she criticized Elizabeth of Austria for her selfishness and vanity and said she never really got along with Alix because she found her too 'governessy'.

I have no idea how common this book and these letters are, but I had not heard of them before finding the book and am now trying to find out if any other books contain copies of her letters. Marie was a talented letter writer and I would love to read more of her correspondance - does anyone know if any of it has been published other than that included in A Biographer's Notebook?

Best

Rachael
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 06, 2008, 10:11:01 AM
Is this a new book or an old publication ?  :o
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Post by: Rachael89 on July 06, 2008, 02:13:54 PM
The copy I have is from 1950 and it appears to be a first edition, I found it in a place selling second hand books. It is by Hector Bolitho, he visited Romania to write a biography of Carol II and met Marie while he was there, it was shortly before her death.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 06, 2008, 07:40:30 PM
Ah ! another rare book... ;D
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Post by: Laura_ on July 07, 2008, 03:18:16 AM
Yes, I know this book. Here's a web page on it:
http://www.tkinter.smig.net/QueenMarie/References/BiographersNotebook/index.htm

Sorry but I do not know any other books that contain copies of her letters. There are some (if i remember well) in her diary, but that's published only in Romanian langauge :-(
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Post by: Rachael89 on July 07, 2008, 06:45:23 AM
Ah, it seems the book is quite rare then! Thankyou for the information Laurra, I think I will just have to settle for a copy of the last romantic. I have been trying to hone my typing skills, and transcribed some of the most interesting letters in the book. I thought they would make interesting reading!

31st August 1934
   ...When I first came to Balcic the population, which is very poor and heterogeneous, was very excited and delighted. Amongst those who showed their awed pleasure was an old Turkish woman of no degree , almost a beggar in fact ... It tickled my fancy to have her come to see me, with her humble bouquet of flowers or sometimes he gift of a few nuts or eggs. She was always dressed in a black sort of caftan over wide trousers, a white veil on her head and loose slippers on her naked feet. As she generally came about breakfast time, I would invite her to take a chair and share my early repast and I would give her large cups of very sweetened coffee and huge hunks of cake. Neither of us could understand a word the other said, and all our conversation was carried out through pantomime. Her face was as wrinkled as a walnut. She had few teeth left, but there was a look of remembrance in her eyes and, if one studied her features, one could see that she must have once been pretty. Occasionally I had to submit to being kissed!
   Well later on my followers discovered that this old crone had in her youth been 'a lady of light repute' and of course I was henceforth expected to repudiate her entirely. Well, I just did not ... but this inconceivable behaviour is severely criticized by those who consider themselves responsible for my queenly acts!

19th February 1936
   Yes, Ducky has gone forever ... a companionship, a friend, an assurance, and also all the dearest memories of an incomparably happy childhood. To us sisters, Ducky was out conscience. She was the proudest, strongest, most upright, most capable, most law-abiding, but also the most unforgiving of us all, and this inability to forgive was what finally broke her. She had no understanding of weakness, could not accept compromise of any kind. Her ideals were absolute, not to be discussed. There was something of Lucifer's pride about her – magnificent but dangerous. This will give you an idea of her way. Once she said to me; 'If I say something is good taste, it is not that I think it is good taste, but that it is....'
   Unbending, authoritative, almost domineering,  she could accept no half measures. Untruthfulness she could not even understand. Her great fault was that she could give no one a second chance, being in this way my direct opposite. She could not forgive, once a person had disappointed her, or not lived up to what she had expected – she would out him or her aside....Three of us sisters were born leaders, but each in a quite different way. I used gentleness and deep understanding of the other man's side of the case. Ducky used strength and withering contempt when disappointed. Sister Baby used and uses diplomacy. We were a strong race; the mixture of Russian and English was a strange blend, setting us somewhat apart from others, as, having strong and dominating characters, we could not follow, only lead....The meeting of the four sisters, for the last time, at Amorbach, was tragic....When told by my sisters that I was there, she immediately connected the thought of me with flowers, and murmured something about lilies. We both loved our gardens. I also had the consolation to hear her say, when asked if she was pleased I had come 'It makes all the difference in the world...'
   She died at midnight...The next morning I went to her for a last time alone. We had wrapped her in a long soft white silk robe. We had few flowers at Amorbach, but I had some white lilacs which I laid around her head and shoulders, and Sandra put a bunch of freesia in her hands....We buried her at Coburg. It was a cold day, half snow, half rain. I hate funerals. I am not of those who like weeping on graves....

February 1937
   ...Thank-you for the articles upon The Tsar (Nicholas II). What a simple fellow he was, so lovable in so many ways, but with something child-like about him. She was his fate. He adored her, and her influence was disastrous. She was one of the few people I was never able to get on with. There was a governessy attitude about her which had a freezing effect....

[Undated]
   How beautiful Empress Elizabeth must have been, but how selfish. She filled the world with her own needs, her own desires, wishes and tastes. Judging her as one of her own caste, I cannot but condemn her. She lived unfairly, spending streams of her husband's money, but not playing the game – looking upon herself as a sacrificial martyr. She had remained a legendary figure because she was beautiful, original, independent of thought; because she was an Empress; and, as her Emperor was both rich and generous she could squander endless millions upon her marvellous setting. Wherever she wished to travel she travelled in a spectacular way – yachts, castles, palaces, gardens, horses – nothing was too lavish; though she had a morbid dislike, even a horror, of being looked at, and always kept a fan between herself and the crowds, even when in her greatest beauty.
   Judging her from a colleagues point of view I would say 'No, she did not play the game.' She took without giving, and never thanked for what she took, only wailed at being misunderstood. She forsook her worthy, hard worked husband, and though she had moments of charity and good will, it was only when it gave her a sort of thrill or excitement. She was a poetic, also a noble, searching soul – but the morbid interest she took in herself, in her feelings, her likes and dislikes, her health, her figure, was unhealthy. She was absolutely ruthless toward the feelings of others. Of course there is no doubt she was not quite normal, and towards the end melancholia had beset her in a way which made all things unbearable to her. The truth is she accepted no duties and no one forced her to do her duty, so she was entirely without aim, never without means of given way to her every ruinous fantasy; and because everything could be had, it became worthless – simply became a chase after satisfaction, and no satisfaction was possible because there was no gratitude for what she was given, and because she had no peace of mind – never, anywhere. She was a woman who wasted her life and was never concious of how she tortured others around her. And yet she had that strange faculty of awakening admiration and calling forth deep devotion amongst the few towards whom she behaved normally...

[Undated]
   Elizabeth has arranged her existence exactly as it suits her.... She is exceedingly talented , is very shrewd, and although rather silent she can be very amusing. It is our mutual love of beauty which is the strongest link between us.... Now we are excellent friends....
   As to my Nicky, I am afraid I have lost him forever, not de couer, but he has been torn from me and about this I am inconsolable. We were such very close friends and companions, had so much in common. He has become a sad wanderer who does not know where to settle down....

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Post by: Mari on July 07, 2008, 08:02:52 AM
Very interesting letters! I hope you post more when you get a chance! :)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 07, 2008, 10:34:57 AM
Thanks Rachael89 ! They are fasinating... ;)
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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on May 30, 2009, 05:07:02 PM
MARIE OF ROMANIA, IMAGES OF A QUEEN   
Princess Marie of Edinburgh and of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha was an extraordinary person and an unforgettable queen. Here is her life in images: official portraits, pictures that appeared in newspapers and magazines, family groups and snapshots. A unique record of a unique individual; the romantic Queen, the mother-in-law of the Balkans, granddaughter of Queen Victoria and Tsar Alexander II, grandmother of King Michael I of Romania and King Peter II of Yugoslavia.

Can someone tell me all about this book? Sveta told me "The book is a must for Marie's fans : ). It's really a treasure with rare pictures and interesting text." Which  its a great book about Queen Marie, I would also like other people's thought of the book aswell.  :)

thanks.
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Post by: V_Corona on May 31, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
Dear Mandie, I have the book, and I must agree with Sveta. Combining photographs with the text make the book very enjoyable. I recomend it.
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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on June 01, 2009, 01:52:14 PM
Well I buy it from Majesty Magazine. I'm guessing it going to take a month before getting it. I hope they are reliable- the magazine company.
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Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 03, 2009, 08:00:35 PM
It must be very interesting
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Post by: Eurohistory on December 20, 2009, 12:49:50 PM
We have offered this book since it came out. It is well done and a great addition to your royal book collection.

regards, Arturo Beéche
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 22, 2009, 09:42:28 PM
The most complete photos images of Queen Marie of Romania.
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Post by: miki_nastya on December 23, 2009, 02:51:46 AM
 Can anyone post pictures of this book ?
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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 23, 2009, 03:06:15 PM
Why spoil the surprise for people whom want to get the book? there are already some pics in the Maria of Romania topic.

I have that book and I LOVE IT!
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 24, 2009, 10:32:33 AM
Indeed. It came from a great collector's collection.
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Post by: newfan on July 12, 2010, 10:39:15 AM
Hello

Lets bring this section back to life please, and love to hear about more books on Balkan Royalty

The" Nikola and Milena " is a great book indeed.

About Albania's  King Zog:"King Zog self made monarch of Albania"  by Jason Tomes
ISBN 0750930772

"Geraldine of the Albanians" by Gwen Robyns
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Post by: newfan on July 14, 2010, 03:34:04 AM
Any other books bio?

Bulgaria Roayal family,Yugoslavia,Serbia.Montenegro,Albania,Rumunia?Greece?

Thank you

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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on September 15, 2010, 10:12:33 PM
Hello

Lets bring this section back to life please, and love to hear about more books on Balkan Royalty

The" Nikola and Milena " is a great book indeed.


i have it, it wonderful but the book its self is a mess up copy i found it under $ 40 dollars, i guess a good price for a damaged book.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 16, 2010, 08:21:14 AM
Is the book out ofd print ?
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Post by: grandduchessella on February 26, 2013, 03:52:39 PM
The Hohenzollern Case File--has anyone heard anything about this book?

http://www.hohenzollerncasefile.com/

"The family this book is concerned with needs little introduction. The Hohenzollerns have played an historic role that few royal houses can rival. The dynasty’s princes have long been at the heart of European affairs and it was only the post-war settlement that removed the last Hohenzollern ruler from a European throne - the Romanian in 1947. The Hohenzollern Case File sheds new light on a historic royal dispute fought out in Romania and Germany; and a notorious legal battle filled with intrigue and suspense. Royalty Magazine Editor Marco Houston found himself at the centre of the storm - as defendant, eye-witness and unwitting participant in a battle for dynastic rights and political ambitions. The Hohenzollern Case File uncovers the events that changed royal history. From Schloss Sigmaringen to the Royal Courts of Justice, from the White House to the race for the Romanian presidency, an extraordinary drama filled with accusations of conspiracy, forgery, perjury and attempts to pervert the course of justice is revealed."

I recognize Marco Houston's name from Royalty Magazine and the photobook on Nikola & Milena of Montenegro so I'm thinking he has some standing as a royal historian? Yet I'm getting the sense of tawdriness from this, I don't know why.

http://www.hohenzollerncasefile.com/download/PressEn.pdf
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 26, 2013, 05:21:38 PM
Is this book available now ?
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Post by: Marie Valerie on September 27, 2014, 10:54:02 AM
There is a book (in german) about Sophie of Albania - nee of Schönburg-Waldenburg and wife of Wilhelm zu Wied, who was ruler for six months in Albania.

(http://www.artis-causa.de/bilder/publikationen/sophie.jpg)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 29, 2014, 02:30:08 AM
Just came out ?
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Post by: Marie Valerie on February 05, 2015, 04:04:02 AM
Royalty Magazine has the Nikola & Milena book for 35 US-Dollars...
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Post by: Justine on March 10, 2015, 04:49:02 PM
Are there any books about Queen Draga Mašin and King Alexander Obrenović? In English or Serbian?