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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Rulers Prior to Nicholas II => Topic started by: Katharina on February 17, 2004, 06:06:03 AM

Title: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Katharina on February 17, 2004, 06:06:03 AM
Do you think the bomb that killed Alexander II. was really disguised as an Easter cake (Radzinsky, Royal Russia)?
According to another source the bombs consisted of thick glass filled with nitrogycerine and were wrapped in white cloth.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Katharina on February 24, 2004, 05:19:44 AM
One of my favorite russian compositions is a waltz by Dmitry Shostakovich titled "Sophia Perovskaya". Years ago I found this catchy tune on a CD called "The Shostakovich Film Album". Does anyone know if there is a connection with the assassination of Alexander II.? I guess there is a russian film dealing with Sophia Perovskaya, the first female aristocratic to be executed for her participation in murdering a "tyrant".
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Sushismom on February 25, 2004, 03:15:01 PM
This is all from memory, so forgive me if I'm wrong. Weren't there two bombs thrown at Alexander II? Wasn't one thrown that exploded in back of him and that caused him to stop and check on the dead and injured? And while he was stopped the other bomb was thrown that succeeded in killing him?
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Sarai on March 02, 2004, 02:55:38 PM
Sushismom,
Indeed, two bombs were thrown at Alexander II that day, the second being the one that actually killed him. The first bomb was thrown at his carriage and wounded several in his escort. The Tsar got out to check on the wounded, despite pleas from his driver to flee. He also actually approached the bomber to ask if he had done it, and as he did another young man threw a bomb between himself and the Tsar, which mortally wounded both.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Valmont on March 02, 2004, 05:52:57 PM
On a street corner near the Catherine Canal Sophia Perovskaya gave the signal to Nikolai Rysakov and Timofei Mikhailov to throw their bombs at the Tsar's carriage. The bombs missed the carriage and instead landed amongst the Cossacks. The Tsar was unhurt but insisted on getting out of the carriage to check the condition of the injured men. While he was standing with the wounded Cossacks another terrorist, Ignatei Grinevitski, threw his bomb. Alexander was killed instantly and the explosion was so great that Grinevitski also died from the bomb blast.

Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Penny_Wilson on March 02, 2004, 06:11:32 PM
Just to be totally pedantic....

Alexander was not killed instantly, though he was mortally wounded.  I'm not certain how long he lived afterwards, or what his level of consciousness was, but he certainly made it home.  Allegedly, he was able to tell his remaining guards that he wanted to die at home, so he was carried into the Palace and placed on a sofa or chaise longue, where he expired a little while later as his family watched.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Valmont on March 02, 2004, 06:26:20 PM
Penny,
You are right, he was not killed instantly, he died at home an The Cathedral of Resurection on Blood was erected on the site of the murder. he was burried in the Cathedral of the St. peter & St. Paul Fortress in St. Petersburg..
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: AGRBear on July 14, 2004, 09:54:43 PM
According to most books,  the future Nicholas II saw his grandfather, who had been torn apart, while he was dying and  laying on a sofia where the cossacks had placed him in the palace....  

The description of Alexander II's wounds are very horrific.

This had a great impact on young Nicky.

I don't remember if the bomb throwers were Jewish, but, it is true, Nicky was told they were.

One description of that time in Nicholas II's life is found p. 16 in Nicholas and Alexandra by Massie.

AGRBear
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Forum Admin on July 15, 2004, 08:34:35 AM
I direct your attention on this point to the lengthy discussion thread here "Anti-Semitism of the Romanovs"
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: AGRBear on September 21, 2004, 03:22:15 PM
The future Tsar Alexander  II  was born four days before Easter,  17 April 1818 which caused quite a stir.  Not only was he a son of Tsar Nicholas I, he was a "easy" birth, born in the Kremlin and during Easter Week.  All the stars seemed to have been  in line for this baby.  Fate would have him  be the Romanov who as a second son of a Tsar becomes the heir and then Tsar who freed Russia's enserfed millions, and, then the stars went off line on 1 March 1881 as the People's Will's  seventh attempt of assassination succeeded and ended the life of Alexander II at 3:30 that afternoon.

Why do you think he should have been the hero of the masses?
OR
Why do you think he was not a hero but a villian who failed  the masses?

AGRBear

PS:  See: http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/AlexIIbio.html
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Annie on September 21, 2004, 10:17:28 PM
I have heard some say, no source I can quote, that he was killed because some terrorists wanted him gone because he was too good to the people and he was hurting their chance at revolution!
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Olga on September 26, 2004, 03:21:53 AM
The bomb thrower was Polish. The explosion was so great that he died aswell. His name was Ignacy Hryniewiecki.

I've heard pretty horrific accounts of Alexander Nikolaevich's wounds. One of his legs was torn off, blinded in one eye, etc etc.

The group that organised the assassination was Narodnaya Volya (People's Will). They included

Nikolai Kibalchich (an explosives expert)
Sofya Lvovna Perovskaya (aristocrat)
Nikolai Ivanovich Rysakov (threw the first bomb)
Timofei Mikhailovich Mikhailov
Andrei Ivanovich Zhelyabov (husband of Perovskaya)
Gesya Mironovna Gelfman (Jewish)

All were executed except for Gelfman.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Belochka on September 26, 2004, 11:15:02 PM
The first bomb was thrown by a nineteen year old student, Nikolai Ryasakov. This was the eighth attempt on the Emperor's life.

While the actual bomb which mortally wounded Alexander II was thrown by the 21 year former engineering student Ignaty Grinevitskii. He uncovered a round shaped bomb and threw it at the Emperor's feet. He suffered for almost an hour before succumbing to the trauma of his wounds.

Alexander sustained horrendous injuries to both his legs, one of which was dismembered at the knee. He did not however loose his eye. He recognized Kulebyakin, his Convoy officer believing he was an angel before losing consciousness.

[Ref: Alexander II by P. Krasnov, 1995 pp 538-40 a Russian language source]  

Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Karel on February 05, 2005, 04:43:09 AM
Hello!

I’m currently writing a history paper about the murder of Alexander ll, but I’m having a hard time finding information about this I been to countless libraries but I can only find small bits and pieces. Does any one know of a good web site or a book that can contain allot of information on his murder.
nice forum btw.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Dominic_Albanese on February 05, 2005, 07:41:08 AM
Hi Karel - I can't think of anything published recently that was specifically about Alexander II.  My library isn't all that extensive and tends to have more recently published books in it so others may have something else to add.

Couple of decent 'all purpose' Romanov books that have snippets about AII and which may be helpful...

1)Romanovs 1818-1959 by John Van Der Kiste
2)The Flight of the Romanovs
3)Romanov Autumn by Charlotte Zeepvat
4)The Emperors and Empresses of Russia edited by Donald J. Raleigh

and I vaguely remember that Massie's Nicholas and Alexandra had a small section of A II's death.

I did a study a few years ago on the death of A III.  He died of Kidney disease in the Crimea.  I basically pieced together who was there and a ok timeline by researching books like those above, memoirs and Royalty Digest (You might want to get in touch with them - they may have an article on it you could purchase).

Anyway, good luck!
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Forum Admin on February 05, 2005, 09:39:57 AM
There is also a first hand account of the murder in the online edition of Volkov's Memoirs.
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/volkov/1.html
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: LisaDavidson on February 05, 2005, 01:25:01 PM
Karel:

Feel free to send me a private message and I will gladly share material with you. I recently researched this topic for a chapter I was working on.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Daniel Briere on February 05, 2005, 09:31:02 PM
Indeed there doesn’t seem to be a lot of books describing Alexander II’s assassination in English. Adding the following to Lisa’s excellent suggestions :

The only biography in English I have is by Edith Martha Almedingen : « The Emperor Alexander II; a study » published in 1962 and she gave his death only 2 pages.

In her book about the Romanov dynasty, Victoria Cowles (« The Romanovs » 1971) has a chapter about Alexander II. Some interesting pages about the Nihilists plots and previous attemps to kill him though. She also quotes from Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich’s memoirs ( « Once a Grand Duke » 1932) who recalls that they were out skating with his cousin Nicky (future Nicholas II) and his mother when they heard the fatal explosion. They rushed to the Winter Palace in time to see the Tsar die.

Some books I don’t have but which I have read a long time ago; alas I don’t recall if there’s anything interesting :

Stephen Graham’s biography : « Tsar of freedom, the life and reign of Alexander II » (latest edition 1968 );

Former French Ambassador Maurice Paleologue « Tragic romance of Alexander II of Russia » , 1927
(At the time of Alexander II  he was in St. Petersburg as a young diplomat and attended his funeral).

The old Alexander III biography by Charles Lowe (I seem to recall an interesting chapter at the beginning). New edition 1972.

Books I have never seen but which may be interesting :

« Five sisters : women against the tsar : the memoirs of five young anarchist women of the 1870s » edited and translated by Barbara Alpern Engel & Clifford N. Rosenthal, 1987 (Library of Congress has it under « Alexander II – Assassination » heading so it should  be relevant)

Alexandre Tarsaidzé’s  « Katia : wife before God » 1970

Werner Eugen Mosser’s « Alexander II and the modernization of Russia » 1992

About the master mind of the plot : David Footman’s « Red prelude : the life of the Russian terrorist Zhelyabov » (latest edition 1979).

Which reminds me of Virginia Cowles’ book  called « Russian dagger; cold war in the days of the czars » 1969. I have it but just can’t find in my library. I seem to recall that she has a chapter about Alexander II’s assassination plots.

You might find some useful insight in general books about 19th century Russian history, such as Edward Crankshaw « The shadow of the Winter Palace; the drift to Revolution, 1825-1917. »

I would also suggest you try to find some British or American publications (newspapers, magazines) from March/April 1881. Most librairies should have at least one or two on microfilm if not any originals. My experience is that contemporary accounts were full of interesting details.

I have a number of other biographies and memoirs relating to Alexander II but there in French or Russian. I also have a photocopy of a fascinating narrative by Prince Romuald Giedroyc’s (Gedroitz?) (« La mort d’Alexandre II – extraits des mémoires du Prince Romuald Giedroyc ») published in 1881 : the most detailed account I have ever seen! 136 pages about the tragic events that happened on March 1st/13 and the days that followed (until the funeral). Sad but fascinating nevertheless.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on February 06, 2005, 05:32:34 PM
Uhh, was Alexander II the Tsar who was blown up?
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Olga on February 07, 2005, 08:10:35 AM
Yes. It was rather messy. His assassination was planned and carried out by the revolutionary group Narodnaya Volya.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Karel on February 08, 2005, 05:06:21 AM
thank you all so mutch for the help, i found  some more information now and ill soon be on my way writeing.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Belochka on February 18, 2005, 10:00:39 PM
Despite the fact that Alexander II had quite a number of escapes from being assasinated, it seems to me that an attempt to commemmorate an unsuccessful terrorist act was a very strange idea indeed.

Had SPb been scattered with similar monuments for "what might have been" would have clearly shown its citizens how badly funds would have been expended, and clearly placed terrorism on public display.

Such a pity that Viktor Hartmann wasted his obvious talent on this one.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Daniel Briere on February 20, 2005, 10:07:48 PM
Grand-Duke, are you sure this monumental gate project was for St. Petersburg? I have it in a Soviet book identified as a 1869 project for a city gate in Kiev. The drawing itself only says “Proekt gorodskykh vorot/ Projet d’une porte de ville” (Project for a city gate) with no mention of the city, but the crest over the door shows an angel, which would indeed point to Kiev. Of course, he may have recycled an earlier project rejected in St. Petersburg.

In any case, a “monument” commemorating Alexander II’s survival from the 1866 attempt on his life was built in St. Petersburg: in 1866-67 a chapel was erected on the exact spot Karakozov had tried to kill him (at the entrance to the Summer Garden on Dvortsovaya Naberzhnaya). Inside was a large mosaic with St. Alexander Nevsky. The architect was R. I. Kuzmin. Here’s a photo.  
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/Atamanets/7358.jpg)
It was demolished by the Communists in 1930. At least they spared the Church on the Spilt Blood built 20 years later on the spot where he was mortally wounded.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Belochka on February 20, 2005, 11:40:55 PM
I completely forgot about this small chapel, I have just found a similar postcard in my collection, except it is colorized.

According to Iroshnikov's book Before the Revolution the following words were inscribed:

Do not touch the annointed Sovereign

Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: lostfan on April 07, 2005, 06:12:04 PM
This quote is from sparknotes.com:

Quote
Tsar from 1855-1881; known as a reformer for his Great Reforms program that included changes in education, judicial matters, military readiness, and freedom of expression; issued the Emancipation edict of 1861 to free the serfs. However, his record only shows him to be a half-hearted reformer, never really interested in compromising any element of his power. He was assassinated in 1881 by a radical because of his lackluster performance as a reformer.



The piece of this definition that bothers me is that he was never interested in compromising any element of his power. Am I just imagining things, or wasn't he, on the day he was assasinated, on his way to sign a constitution for Russia?
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Frederika on April 08, 2005, 12:37:14 PM
your right he was on his way so to sighn a constution to start russias first government and make a constutional Monachy the assasins dint now it but he was the one tsar not to kill as he was going for the first time try and make russia like England or France. Aleksandr III scraped the constitution making the beging of the end of the Tsarist russia.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: griffh on April 09, 2005, 10:00:06 AM
According to an article in the 1911 Encyclopedia Brittanica "The Great Gate of Kiev" was built to commemorate a narrow escape from an assassination attempt on  April 14, 1866 on Alexander II's life by Dymitry Karakozov while he was walking in the park.  

Alexander II held a competition for a great gate tp be designed for the city of St. Petersburg.  Architect, painter, and costume designer Vicktor Hartman won the commission and built "The Great Gate of Kiev" which was considered his finest work.  A painting of The Great Gate later became Mussorgsky's inspiration for his famous compostion, "Pictures At An Exhibition."

The famous Church of the Savoir on Blood was built on the spot where, twenty years later 1881 assassination took place.        
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Charles on April 11, 2005, 07:47:54 AM
Sorry, you are both wrong.  Alexander II did not have a draft constitution on his desk the day he was assassinated and he was not about to adopt a constitutional monarchy for Russia.  That has been a rumor repeated by many historians, but this was never true.  There has been absolutely ZERO evidence that this was the case.  There is speculation that he was considering a quasi-elected legislative consulting body with Loris-Melikov, but nothing came of it.  This rumor is most likely the result of wishful thinking of behalf of those who mourned the loss of Imperial Russia years after the Revoluion.

Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: leanora on May 25, 2005, 09:20:04 PM
I am curious to know why Alexander II is not considered a great tsar as Catherine II or Peter the great...however, millions of human beings has been delivered from slavery under his reign... It seems to me that Alexander II has not all the consideration he had to. The proof is that there are not a lot of books about him or about his life ... and this forum has not  a lot of threads on him..

What do you think about this? Alexander II the great or not?
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Paul on May 26, 2005, 04:44:37 AM
The Family itself considered him a bit of a weakling and an embarrassment.

Personally, I suspect that the dearth of books on Alexander II is due to bad timing. His reign coincided with those of so many more prominent and/or colourful figures. QV, Franz Joseph, and Napoleon III may have simply pushed him into their shadows?
Also: so much of his reign coincided with events more pressing to the West. The unification of Germany & Italy come to mind. The Franco-Prussian War, The US War Between the States, the Spanish Troubles, and the colonial expansions of the west European powers also tended to relegate Russian issues to the back burner.

...just a guess, mind you....
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: DrakeRlugia on May 28, 2005, 03:11:38 AM
He abolished serfdom, but the former-serfs came under conditions worse than when they were serfs. When they were slaves, atleast they knew they'd have food, but after abolishment, many suffered from starvation and the such.

I believe he was an average tsar compared to some of the others. He wasn't great..but he wasn't horrible.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Dominic_Albanese on May 28, 2005, 09:58:02 AM
A couple of other thoughts come to mind related to him being considered "great" or not.

(1) His successors (especially his son) were deeply embarassed by his taking a 2nd wife and his morality in general.  I've often wondered if there embarassment of his actions had anything to do with Alexander III and Nicholas II being so true to their spouses and families.  Sunsquent family members did very little to propogate his greatness.  His son immediately reversed some of the decisions he took just prior to his death and it is well known that Alexander III was against much of what Alexander II did professionally late in his reign.  In other words, the family did little to extend the idea of Alexander II being "Great" and with the extinction of the dynasty, subsquent generations weren't able to propogate that concept either.  If you think back to Alexander I and Nicholas I they both actively venerated the greatness of their grandmother (Catherine I) while saying and doing very little for their father (Paul I).

(2) For more than 70 years Imperial Russian History and the Romanov family in general were not of much interest to historians.  It was only with the fall of the Soviet Union that scholars were able to access Imperial Russian archives in the (defunct) soviet union.  If you think about it, outside of the interest in Nicholas & Alexandra and there generation there still hasn't been much written about the Romanov family.  It seems to me that a good, thorough biography of Alexander II and/or Alexander III is long over due.

My .02!

best,
dca
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Belochka on May 29, 2005, 07:46:08 AM
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 It seems to me that a good, thorough biography of Alexander II and/or Alexander III is long over due. dca


I have a  biography on Alexander II and a few on Alexander III, however they are in the Russian language.

A compendium of books were released on each Russian Emperor (Empresses) since Peter the First several years ago as part of the Romanovii Dynasty series.

Such tomes await translation into English.

However I am inclined to agree with your contention that Alexander II despite his efforts to liberate the serfs, was deliberately ignored by his son and grandson because of Alexander II's perceived transgressions that appeared to affect the dignity of the Imperial Court.

One could assume that such conduct affected the Emperor's public obligation, whereby personal pleasure was seen to be be more important than self-sacrifice. Consequently Alexander II's authority as the "all powerfull autocrat" was seen to be less persuasive.

Such a perception was immediately turned around by Alexander III, who tightened his grip on authority, and including his own personal life.    

Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Dominic_Albanese on May 29, 2005, 07:58:18 AM
Quote

I have a  biography on Alexander II and a few on Alexander III, however they are in the Russian language.

A compendium of books were released on each Russian Emperor (Empresses) since Peter the First several years ago as part of the Romanovii Dynasty series.

Such tomes await translation into English.


Yes, for me that is a problem -- There are days that I have trouble enough reading english - let alone a new foreign language!

Was there anything new in the Bio's on Alexander III that might suprise us?  He is a particular enigma to me.

thanks
dca
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Belochka on May 29, 2005, 08:06:55 AM
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Was there anything new in the Bio's on Alexander III that might suprise us?  He is a particular enigma to me.
dca


To answer your question would be difficult since I am unaware what you know about Alexander II.

I personally admire him for what he attempted to achieve for his nation.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: dvoretzky on June 07, 2005, 06:56:37 AM
A monument to Alexander II is being dedicated today in Moscow.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Fawzia on June 07, 2005, 08:05:37 PM
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He abolished serfdom, but the former-serfs came under conditions worse than when they were serfs. When they were slaves, atleast they knew they'd have food, but after abolishment, many suffered from starvation and the such.


I definitely agree.   He may have been the Tsar Liberator, but liberated to go on to what?  :-/   There may have been some exceptions, some success stories, but overall.... :-/   Pretty dire circumstances.  
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Janet_W. on June 07, 2005, 08:56:16 PM
The more I read about Alexander II, the more I admire him.

Yes, the love affair that turned into his second marriage was in many respects an embarrassment and a trial to his children and other family members. And yes, certain aspects of that affair are difficult to condone.

But as a Tsar he was thoughtful and forward-thinking. While we in the States study and admire Abraham Lincoln--and well we should!--Alexander II, on the other side of the world, wanted to liberate the serfs from a situation which, in many ways, paralleled the despicable enslavement of Negroes in the United States.

Alexander II was a human being who made mistakes. But he did his best. It is not his fault that the son who succeeded him was such a Neanderthal. And, as most of us know, a major reason behind the assassination of Alexander II was to destroy the man who would have curtailed revolution. The anarchists knew that once Alexander II was gone his reactionary son would bring Russia back to a ferment, allowing them to move ahead with their plans.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: hikaru on June 08, 2005, 08:30:09 AM
Ystdy, near Moscow's Saviour's Cathedral was opened the Big  New Monument of Alexandr II.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Mike on June 08, 2005, 11:00:26 AM
A few photos of the opening ceremony may be viewed  here (http://www.vesti.ru/photo.html?type=comments&doc_id=35463#). The statue resembles that of the pre-revolutionary Kremlin monument, but other parts, like the colonnade, look different.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Dimitri on October 30, 2005, 05:06:53 AM
Can I ask you to what extent did Alexander II's legal reforms challenge autocracy? It is for my nephews school project, I would be thankful for any help.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: ilyala on October 31, 2005, 06:20:04 AM
in 1879 a doctor named Aleksandr Soloviev fired five times a gun into the emperror, from a short distance. there was also a tentative of blowing up the imperial train on the 19th of october 1879 and in february 1880 a terrorist bomb exploded in the banquet hall of the winter palace. these events made Alexander considering reforming time has come. he named as head of the administrative supreme comity the count general Mihail Loris-Melikov and invested him with dictatorial powers. Loris-Melikov believed that imediate repressions combined with constructive reforms would stabilise the political situation. he relaxed the censorship, he removed some restrictions about the zemstva activity and he abolished the salt taxes. that managed to reduce a little the political tensions. most unpopular conservative ministers were removed from the government, like Dmitri Tolstoi. the third section was removed also in august 1880 and its functions were taken over by the internal minister, which was again Loris-Melikov.

in may 1880 Maria Alexandrovna died. a few weeks later Alexander married his mistress and defied the church laws among with his family's wishes. Katia was not satisfied with her status as a morganatic wife. Loris-Melikov suggested that maybe the political liberalization could convince the public to accept Katia as an empress. he proposed the creation of a system of preparatorial comities who would sketch a kind of a law about some imperial problems. on the 28th of january 1881, Alexander accepted these suggestions which were pretty far from a constitution, but were the first step in that direction. he took it as a good sign the fact that no-one had tried to kill him in about a year, which meant that the reforms had the right effect. these proposals were meant to be presented to the council of ministers on the 4th of march 1881. on the 1st of march Alexander was asasinated.

in general, the reforms of Loris-Melikov managed to alienate the conservative people, but did not have the support of the liberals either. Alexander was autocrat in name only because he had to rely on his ministers. when he was assasinated, the authority of the conservative people was again in full force and his son removed all reforms that were planned.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on November 01, 2005, 01:48:52 PM
Alexander II. Nikolajewitsch
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8074/oaf00482es.th.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf00482es.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on November 01, 2005, 01:51:25 PM
Alexander II. with his sons (the left Alexander)
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Alexander II. and Maria Alexandrowna on theit silver marriage day (is this so in English?)
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4157/oaf00520em.th.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf00520em.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on December 01, 2005, 03:18:34 AM
Alexander II.
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1039/oafgallery11kh.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oafgallery11kh.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: anabel on April 08, 2006, 09:45:34 AM
Hey!

We know how much Alexander II. loved little children, so now I wonder which kind of relationship he had with his grandchildren, the children of Alexander III, Vladimir and Marie, Duchess of Edinburgh? Curiously, I have never read anything about it (despite one anecdote in Romanov Autumn).... :( Maybe somebody out there could help out? :) ;)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Suzanne on April 08, 2006, 04:10:24 PM
Baroness Buxhoeveden's Memoir "Before the Storm" contains a number of anecdotes about the future Tsar Nicholas II's relationship with his grandfather, Alexander II. The two appear to have been very close. In Bux's book, she describes Nicholas telling his daughter Olga about the times he spent his grandfather as a child, passing on the family lore so to speak. Incidentally, the scenes in the memoir indicate that Nicholas went for walks just with Olga sometimes, challenging the idea that OTMA were always together, with the exception of the daughter who kept Alix company on any given day.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: grandduchessella on April 08, 2006, 08:45:57 PM
In Queen Marie of Romania's memoirs she only mentions one or two meetings with him, when she was very young. She was born around 1876 and he died just a few years later. Not only was she herself very young but there wasn't much time to make very many visits to Russia before he died.

I don't know what, if any, memories Alfred Jr or Ducky would've had.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Caleb on April 08, 2006, 09:10:26 PM
I've heard that when Alexander II was on his deathbed, despite of his pain after the bomb was thrown at him, Alexander tried to give Nicholas a reassuring smile.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: grandduchessella on April 10, 2006, 10:23:14 AM
I always thought, whatever the reason, bringing a boy of Nicholas's age to such a gruesome scene was awful.  :(
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Madal on April 11, 2006, 02:02:22 PM
What was Missy or Ducky's opinion about their grandfather's second wife? And second marriage? Did they write something about it (in letters, memories ...) ?
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Suzanne on April 11, 2006, 07:50:27 PM
John Sullivan's work "A Fatal Passion" - biography of Ducky - certainly indicates that Ducky and Missy's mother was outraged when she visited Russia to find her mother dying and her father having acquired a mistress. According to Sullivan, this was the only time Marie argued with her father and she was later remorseful for leaving him on such bad terms because he was assassinated soon afterward.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: grandduchessella on April 12, 2006, 12:08:50 AM
A past item from Sotheby's

The children of Alexander II and Marie

(going diagonally from far left)
1. Nixa
2. Sasha

3. Vladimir
4. Alexis
5. Serge

6. Paul
7. Marie

not portrayed--Alexandra



(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/romanov/4J39N_N08124-46-11w.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: imperial angel on April 12, 2006, 11:02:35 AM
Well, I think he was great, in that he pushed some much needed reforms ahead, and actually went through with them rather than hedging. He died, however, on the eve of greater refoms, so he perhaps is not remembered as much as he would be otherwise. His personal life was perhaps a discredit to the dynasty, and it certainly his second marriage didn't make for a good image. He was human, going on what he felt, and not really thinking of position, as he ought to have been. He was simply an older married man, with a wife unable to please him anymore, who took up with a young girl, who he deeply loved, an all too human story. But it was not as moral as he was supposed to be, that's true. He defintely was forward thinking, and very intelligent, perhaps more of a true European monarch than either of his succesors.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: imperial angel on April 12, 2006, 01:34:38 PM
This is a pretty widespread rumour sadly enough. Perhaps the fact that is to be wished is why it became so widely known. Had he lived longer, perhaps more reforms would have happened, that's possible. I used to believe thus myself, because it's a rumour that seems to be everywhere. It even sounds a bit credible.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: CountessKate on April 13, 2006, 04:42:58 AM
One of the functions which the salon of GD Elena Pavlovna performed, was keeping Alexander II on track for reforms.  Like many autocrats, such as Catherine II, he started out with good intentions and then began to get cold feet as vested interests exerted pressure, and there wasn't universal gratitude and rejoicing at the reforms which did get implemented.  In the GD's salon he could receive sympathy and support which wasn't always available elsewhere; no doubt it was very discouraging when you showed yourself to be at least a bit more liberal, but people still wanted to blow you up.  
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: imperial angel on April 13, 2006, 10:45:27 AM
Yes, that is true, that if he showed himself the least inclined to implement reforms, along came the revolutionaries. This was of course, bound to be discouraging, I'm sure. And this could be why a constitition never appeared during his lifetime. The revolutionaries actually, according to Radzinsky's book on this ruler, were caused by the reforms, because as soon as you give an inch, they take a mile, as they old saying goes, and want more, and if they don't get it, it's not going to be good. And as well, the revolutionaries knew that reforms on the part of Tsar could destroy their cause-reason to do away with him. He actually was a better Czar in Russian history than he is given credit for, as he idn't just talk about reforms like Catherine the Great-he did some.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: ilyala on April 14, 2006, 01:59:30 AM
would he have been more 'moral' had he kept her in the background as a mere mistress? i know he wasn't very nice to his wife, but once she died, i think marrying katya was the right thing to do. and if you want you can compare him to other kings, like the french kings, who made a habbit out of giving their mistresses castles and apartments in versailles (where their wives also lived, which means alexander wasn't the first to do so). yes, in russia it was more unusual than in france for such a thing to happen, but what would you have him do? pull a peter the great and move marie to the monastery and marry katya?

i am in no way trying to defend a man who cheated on a wife that he chose against the wishes of his own parents. but i am saying that in the circumstances i think he behaved quite well.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: imperial angel on April 18, 2006, 11:31:50 AM
I do think Alexander II acted the best he could, in both his personal and public life. He was human, as are we all, and his romance and second marriage have a familiar ring because of this. It was percieved to be negative, and was widely called so, but his ancestors hadn't been much better in their love lives.  I never meant to judge him, just to show how his actions were generally thought of.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: ALEXEI_P on April 18, 2006, 06:13:49 PM
Friends at the Forum,

I think I mentioned this on another link, but I rember having heard/read that there was a correspondence--or at least an exchange of a few letters between Alexandre II and President Lincoln.
Is anyone else aware of this--does a correspondence exist?

I think it would be a fascinating exchange of ideas between two men that couldn't be more contrasting.

Thanks for any information that any of you might have.

Alexei
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: CountessKate on April 19, 2006, 10:36:17 AM
Quote
I rember having heard/read that there was a correspondence--or at least an exchange of a few letters between Alexandre II and President Lincoln.
Is anyone else aware of this--does a correspondence exist?

I don't know about an exchange of ideas, but Lincoln asked Alexander for help during the Civil War and the tsar gave it by sending the Russian Navy to protect American ports from the British.  Presumably there was correspondence between them about this.  
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Natalya on June 19, 2006, 04:13:03 AM
I really like this one of Alexander II with his much-adored daughter, Grand Duchess Marie.  I think it's really unfair that most books present her as "not very pretty."  We in today's world tend to be overly critical and place too high a value on looks.  Marie may not be the most beautiful or glamorous, but I'm sure she had feelings that must have been hurt if people back then were as opinionated as we are today.

(http://cheddarbay.com/0000Romanov/gdmariealexandrovna_tsaralexanderii.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: antti on September 09, 2006, 06:18:54 AM
In Helsinki we have had a monument of Alexander II all the time.


http://www.senaatintori.fi/Aleksanterinpatsas.htm




A monument to Alexander II is being dedicated today in Moscow.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: TampaBay on September 19, 2006, 08:04:09 PM
How old was Aleander II when he was assassinated?

TampaBay
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Belochka on September 19, 2006, 10:19:05 PM
How old was Aleander II when he was assassinated?

TampaBay

Alexander II was born on 17 April 1818 and was assassinated on 1 March, 1881.

Margarita
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Raskolnikov on September 22, 2006, 08:09:18 AM
A translation of Edvard Radzinsky's Alexander II: the Last Great Tsar has recently become available on the UK market:

 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alexander-II-Last-Great-Tsar/dp/074327332X/sr=1-6/qid=1158930352/ref=sr_1_6/026-4687863-1074813?ie=UTF8&s=books (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alexander-II-Last-Great-Tsar/dp/074327332X/sr=1-6/qid=1158930352/ref=sr_1_6/026-4687863-1074813?ie=UTF8&s=books)

I am waiting for the paperback to be released in November.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Helen on June 10, 2008, 05:06:24 PM
It seems a digitalized version of the 1856 coronation album of Tsar Alexander II and Maria Feodorovna is available on CD-ROM:  8)

"Die Moskauer Zarenkrönung von 1856 - Alexander II. und Maria Alexandrovna; Die Beschreibung in der Riesen-Prachtausgabe des Zarenhofes" [The Moscow Coronation of Zar Alexander II and Maria Alexandrovna, as described in the court's luxury coronation album]
Editor: Hermann Goltz; 1st edition 2003.
Published by Franz Steiner Verlag, Stuttgart, Germany (http://www.steiner-verlag.de/titel/53271.html (http://www.steiner-verlag.de/titel/53271.html))
ISBN 978-3-515-08314-0
Price: ca EUR 48.00

From the text on the publisher's web site, I understand that this CD-ROM is a 'facsimile edition' making accessible the French-language edition of the 1856 coronation album, "Description du Sacre et du Couronnement de leurs Majestés Impériales l’Empereur Alexandre II et l’Impératrice Marie Alexandrovna, St. Petersburg 1856" (67.5 x 90 cm). I'm not sure, but I get the impression that the text in Russian is also included. The CD-ROM is said to include 125 numbered text pages with 28 woodcuts, 1 lithographs, 2 chromolithographs and 1 steel engraving; plus additionally 3 lithograph tables and 18 chromolithograph tables.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on January 10, 2009, 05:00:23 AM
Alexander II

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg165/pierlucountry/img-917135527-0001.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on February 24, 2009, 09:04:25 AM
(http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/43551/2435854420101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2435854420101857556rkbtdR)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on March 12, 2009, 06:00:08 AM
(http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/41911/2453514830101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2453514830101857556tSvkyf)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on March 13, 2009, 04:15:08 PM
My favorite portrait of Alexander II

(http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/12320/2089891720101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2089891720101857556KfQLol)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: nena on March 13, 2009, 05:47:25 PM
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/th_f979aed132.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/?action=view&current=f979aed132.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on March 14, 2009, 11:17:15 AM
Another beautiful portrait of Alexander II.

(http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/20341/2344188110101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2344188110101857556kJEDiN)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on March 18, 2009, 08:59:45 AM
Alexander II again:

(http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/44819/2100841370101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2100841370101857556NjopTw)

Colored by Grand Duchess Ally...Thank you again Ally! ;-)

(http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/30193/2199567040101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2199567040101857556QcYHOH)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Olgasha on April 10, 2009, 11:23:27 AM
Tsar's family

(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3088/allfamiliy.jpg)

(http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/5232/alexiifamily.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Olgasha on April 11, 2009, 07:46:21 AM
Marie with her father
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4939/marieo.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on April 16, 2009, 06:59:28 AM
(http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/42192/2547122650101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2547122650101857556Gmdywo)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: grandduchessella on April 18, 2009, 09:45:12 PM
Marie & Serge
(http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/archive/medium/000761.jpg)

Serge & Paul

(http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/archive/medium/000768.jpg)

AII with Marie and Alexis

(http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/archive/medium/000776.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Ally Kumari on April 21, 2009, 09:22:48 AM
Alexander II
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/th_DJ3VNCAK9HTW3CAEAPSU7CA76R004CAOX6O.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/DJ3VNCAK9HTW3CAEAPSU7CA76R004CAOX6O.jpg)

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/th_RFU7MCA3S0224CAJ91PYFCAA4QOPACAQTAZ.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/RFU7MCA3S0224CAJ91PYFCAA4QOPACAQTAZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Olgasha on April 25, 2009, 09:44:08 AM
Alexander II
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5200/0101matte.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on May 02, 2009, 09:38:55 AM
(http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/42263/2209875620101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2209875620101857556vWvsdO)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on May 02, 2009, 09:41:43 AM
(http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43439/2035958300101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2035958300101857556ROrLTB)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on May 11, 2009, 03:42:20 PM
(http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/41853/2376573870101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2376573870101857556uwbxPS)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on June 03, 2009, 08:06:57 AM
Alexander II

(http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/42470/2266073750101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2266073750101857556rmkbSO)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on June 24, 2009, 09:54:09 AM
Tsar Alexander II

(http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/14276/2565469900101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2565469900101857556wJQCRJ)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 18, 2009, 03:22:15 AM
Alexander II again.

(http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/42322/2851074200101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2851074200101857556xcJRnA)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 18, 2009, 11:52:45 AM
And again, photographs of Tsar Alexander II, from the Russian State Film and Photo Archive, Krasnogorsk.

http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/zoom.php?673

http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/zoom.php?674

http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/zoom.php?694

http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/zoom.php?711
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 18, 2009, 12:34:39 PM
From the same session of the one that I have posted in the reply #79...(I have to confess that this is not my favorite photo session of Tsar Alexander II).

http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/zoom.php?718
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 19, 2009, 07:53:39 AM
I insist with Alexander II.  ;)

From the Russian State Film and Photo Archive, Krasnogorsk.

http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/zoom.php?762

http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/zoom.php?763

http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/zoom.php?769
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 20, 2009, 12:44:41 PM
Still from the Russian State Film and Photo Archive of Krasnogorsk: http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/zoom.php?709
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 21, 2009, 08:59:41 AM
(http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/42022/2244041090101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2244041090101857556CtLJmH)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 25, 2009, 11:15:30 AM
(http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/45311/2479208300101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2479208300101857556seWwtD)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on August 22, 2009, 10:37:50 AM
Tsar Alexander II in Pleven, Bulgaria

(http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/38749/2292366090101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2292366090101857556qdkOqJ)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Nicolay on December 09, 2009, 02:29:26 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_II_of_Russia

Alexander (Aleksandr) II Nikolaevich
illegitimate daughter
Charlotte Henriette Sophie Jansen( 15 November 1844 – July 1915) with mistress Sophie Charlotte Dorothea von Behse (1828–1886)

This is the first time I hear about it and very surprising for me!

What is known about "with mistress Sophie Charlotte Dorothea von Behse"
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on March 30, 2010, 09:30:14 AM
Courtesy of PictureHistory.

Alexander II

(http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/45065/2558149320101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2558149320101857556lJxUmn)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 12, 2010, 08:12:50 AM
dapper Alexander

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2j2c802.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Olgasha on July 15, 2010, 12:47:12 PM
GD Maria Aleksandrovna, daughter of tsar Aleksander II
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1156/marialeksandrowna1.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Dru on July 25, 2010, 10:43:54 PM
Which palace was Alexander's primary residence when he was tsarevich?
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 17, 2010, 07:50:47 AM
Alexander and his dog "Milord"

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Alexander_II_and_his_dog_Milord_1870_by_Sergei_Lvovich_Levitsky.JPG)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 22, 2010, 09:55:13 AM
In his studio

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6029/30925266.jpg) (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/30925266.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 08, 2010, 07:52:37 AM
Old Alexander

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1298/02963345573ec11l.jpg) (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/02963345573ec11l.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: violetta on November 10, 2010, 03:50:28 PM
(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/020-1.jpg)

hope it hasn`t been posted.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: violetta on December 17, 2010, 08:51:06 AM
gala night in st petersburh in honor of the geran emperor wilhelm 1

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/GalaNightinHonourofGermanEmperorWil1.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: HERE MS. SEAN on December 22, 2010, 10:19:39 AM
Do you think the bomb that killed Alexander II. was really disguised as an Easter cake (Radzinsky, Royal Russia)?
According to another source the bombs consisted of thick glass filled with nitrogycerine and were wrapped in white cloth.

does anyone like edvard radisnsky's book on Alexander II ??????
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 02, 2011, 05:22:11 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/976.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on February 02, 2011, 07:12:55 AM
Hi res

(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3431/vintagephoto10bymortifi.jpg) (http://img209.imageshack.us/i/vintagephoto10bymortifi.jpg/)

 
See in HUGE!

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3431/vintagephoto10bymortifi.jpg
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: violetta on February 02, 2011, 08:41:33 AM
Do you think the bomb that killed Alexander II. was really disguised as an Easter cake (Radzinsky, Royal Russia)?
According to another source the bombs consisted of thick glass filled with nitrogycerine and were wrapped in white cloth.

does anyone like edvard radisnsky's book on Alexander II ??????

I do like Radzinskiy`s book although his perception of Alexander II migt be one-sided.Also, Radzinskiy, is famous for his theatricality and use of far-fetched assumptions. He projects his personal views and concepts on his characters. Sometimes he writes in a manner that makes one assume that Radzinskiy himself was present during these events.BUt still, his books contain a lot of useful information.It can be a starting point for further research.it`s a good book to start with one`s research. But if one wants to see a panorama of certain periods or to see a many-sided portrait of an individual it`s not a good idea to rely ONLY on is books. But i don
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: violetta on February 02, 2011, 08:44:15 AM
but i don`t think that he had anything new published recently.  If he had I would turn to his books as they are nicely written.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 03, 2011, 03:14:32 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/7129.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 05, 2011, 03:56:27 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/60917.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 14, 2011, 04:19:15 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/00415883.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 20, 2011, 03:03:09 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/tsaraii.png)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 21, 2011, 05:44:27 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/aii1.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on February 26, 2011, 03:56:58 AM
AII and Maria Alexandrovna:
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/th_aii_maria.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/?action=view&current=aii_maria.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on March 10, 2011, 05:54:26 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/alexander2.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on March 17, 2011, 07:30:41 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/4376087044_ef37dbd6f1_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on March 19, 2011, 04:42:45 AM
Click to enlarge:
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/th_alexander2-1.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/?action=view&current=alexander2-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on March 21, 2011, 06:37:36 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/a9533007.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on March 30, 2011, 03:46:26 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/VKA-315.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on March 31, 2011, 02:12:39 PM
Click to enlarge:
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/th_a03517.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/?action=view&current=a03517.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on April 04, 2011, 04:50:37 AM
AII:
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/th_00081cqs.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/?action=view&current=00081cqs.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on April 09, 2011, 06:39:52 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/g19238.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: koloagirl on April 10, 2011, 05:01:29 PM

Aloha all!

Not to be off-topic here (I hope!) - but you see so many pictures of Emperor Alexander II with a spaniel type dog at his feet - does anyone know the name of this dog?

Just another animal lover here!

Mahalo!

Janet R.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RealAnastasia on April 10, 2011, 11:03:55 PM
Yes! Another animal lover. Just like me! My last dog was a cocker spaniel...I loved him so much! His name was Congo, he died from old age tw years ago and I still miss him so awfully much...

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on April 11, 2011, 03:40:48 AM
The dog name is Milord; there are many pictures of AII and Milord together.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RealAnastasia on April 11, 2011, 11:59:15 PM
Nice name. I didn't know that, for I'm not a specialist in Alexander II. But if he likes dogs I suppose that he must be a great person. There 's always something god in people who loves animals.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on April 12, 2011, 06:14:17 AM
Alexander II adored his pets he even ordered painters and sculptors to depict his pets in paintings and sculpture portraits. But his favorite was Milord, Alexander II almost never separated from Milord except during few occasions.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on April 19, 2011, 07:57:51 AM
(http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/4860/2067708910101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2067708910101857556NWixwd)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: voyageroffreedom on April 22, 2011, 04:39:12 AM
Alexander:
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/th_4483B6A71BA843CF837FEBD02E9A425A.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/AII/?action=view&current=4483B6A71BA843CF837FEBD02E9A425A.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 22, 2011, 08:11:33 AM
A new one

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5011/j80102.jpg) (http://img825.imageshack.us/i/j80102.jpg/)

Title: Alexander II, assassination attempts/ Pictures at an Exhibition
Post by: Naslednik on December 11, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
Can anyone tell me some specifics about the attempted assassinations upon Alexander II?  Here's why I ask: there is a famous symphonic piece/piano piece called "Pictures at an Exhibition" by Russian composer Modest Mussorgsky based upon the paintings of Viktor Hartmann.  The final movement of this piece is overwhelmingly strong and beautiful and it depicts a huge "Gate" design to the city of Kiev that was proposed to celebrate Alexander II's escape from assassination in Kiev in 1866.  If you listen to the piece you can envision how grand the building would have been, and google Hartmann's painting and you'll see it would have been fantastic, with the central portion resembling a medieval Russian warrior's helmet.  Anyway, I digress.  Hartmann's drawing of this Gate was entered into a competition, but no building was ever built even though I think the Russian government had sponsored a competition.  When you read program notes they sometimes scoff at the idea that Hartmann's Gate was not constructed and that Alexander II never carried through on his intention to build a monument celebrating his escape.  But I suspect there is more to the story.  I am wondering if in between 1866 and 1879 there were other, smaller assassination attempts that made the Tsar reconsider the idea that he had really escaped death, and that he was still at great risk. If you get a chance to listen to it, do; since we all know what happened to Alexander II in the end, it makes the majestic sweep of the music deeply moving.  Thanks for any information you have. (Naslednik)
Title: Alexander II - Cossacks Bodyguards Information
Post by: VN on February 20, 2013, 10:57:06 AM
I need information about the Bodyguards (Leibgarde in german) of Alexander II. I'm a member of the Board of the 'Schloss-Heiligenberg-Foundation' and we are looking for a picture of the Uniform the Soldiers wore (Cossacks). Especially the Cossacks that accompanied him and his wife Marie Alexanderowna to Jugenheim in the 1860 - 1880s.

The Schloss Heiligenberg Foundation in Jugenheim is planing to open a little museum in 2013. Currently the Russen-Bau, located directly next to the Main-Schloss is under construction. We would like to add an Uniform to the Exhibition and need this information for the production of the uniform.

Hope someone out there is specialized in russian uniforms! Thanks


Title: Re: Alexander II - Cossacks Bodyguards Information
Post by: Svetabel on February 21, 2013, 05:17:29 AM
You definitely ask about Sobstvenniy Ego Imperatorskogo Velichestva Konvoy. I have 2 or 3 books in pdf format on this Cossak regiment (in Russian though) and can send them to you - they are very informative. If you need only images of the uniform of 1860-1880s period I can check the books and find something I believe.
Title: Re: Alexander II - Cossacks Bodyguards Information
Post by: VN on February 22, 2013, 08:07:48 AM
This is great! Thank you. I actually only need pictures of the Uniforms the cossacks wore. Or at least one, that comes quite close. I will send you a pm for more information.
Title: Re: Alexander II - Cossacks Bodyguards Information
Post by: VN on February 22, 2013, 08:22:45 AM
Just wrote a pm to you, but this didn't work. Could you send me a pm, so I can reply! Thanks
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: bednayaliza on August 28, 2014, 08:47:49 AM
(http://s57.radikal.ru/i155/1408/2f/a25495c429d5.jpg)


Olga Kalinowska (Oginska) - Alexander's first love
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Svetabel on August 28, 2014, 11:28:49 AM
Don't you think she had a resemblance to Alexander II's first wife, Empress Maria Alexandrovna? Something in appearance...
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: bednayaliza on August 29, 2014, 12:40:59 PM
Yes, Svetabel, I think they look really similar
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Dru on September 17, 2014, 02:01:09 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3902/15083533970_bd93553039_o.jpg)

Alexander II by Rockstuhl.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: thebelgianhare on September 17, 2014, 02:17:50 PM
Lovely portrait, thank you for posting! I'm glad this thread is active again - I've always found him a very complex and interesting Emperor
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: GDNastya on October 05, 2014, 03:07:17 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r174/GDNastya/aHbs9e41aSU.jpg) (http://s144.photobucket.com/user/GDNastya/media/aHbs9e41aSU.jpg.html)

Alexander II in his study at the Winter Palace
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on October 10, 2014, 12:29:34 AM
He reminds me of Alexei
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Dru on October 29, 2014, 08:34:53 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3883/14298839609_6c9d463b27_o.jpg)

Alexander II with two of his children, in his study at the Winter Palace.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Ally Kumari on December 03, 2014, 05:25:04 AM
Alexander II mourning the death of Maria Alexandrovna.

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/2297035354282adf3128938a9869ecae/tumblr_ne2c90WGA11rh07xwo1_500.jpg)

While I believe he was still very fond of her near the end of her life, I still think such an image is highly romanticized.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Ally Kumari on December 03, 2014, 05:26:12 AM
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3883/14298839609_6c9d463b27_o.jpg

Alexander II with two of his children, in his study at the Winter Palace.

My best guess is those children are Lina and Nixa.
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Dru on December 05, 2014, 05:16:34 PM
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3883/14298839609_6c9d463b27_o.jpg

Alexander II with two of his children, in his study at the Winter Palace.

My best guess is those children are Lina and Nixa.

Yes, that was my guess too :)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 01, 2015, 02:12:41 AM
Death of Alexander II

(http://www.taday.ru/data/2011/03/01/1234950080/sem_ja_imperatora_Aleksandra_Vtorogo_u_smertnogo_odra_imperatora.jpg)

http://www.taday.ru/text/906480.html
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Ally Kumari on July 06, 2015, 07:14:33 AM
Little Alexander and his sister Maria

(http://cs622720.vk.me/v622720763/22c0e/KyxOwIhTh30.jpg)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Marie Valerie on August 17, 2015, 06:18:58 AM
For more information about Alexanders II. Assassination:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JV56OXzXL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)


Die Zarenmörderin. Das Leben der russischen Terroristin Sofja Perowskaja von Liliana Kern   

(The Tsar murderer. The life of the russian terrorist Sofja Perowskaja by Liliana Kern)
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: Ally Kumari on July 19, 2016, 08:58:01 AM
(https://pp.vk.me/c626126/v626126797/1b919/0uWzokMLH8o.jpg)

(https://pp.vk.me/c626126/v626126797/1b8f5/7ZNYiKPQI04.jpg)

Source for both : https://vk.com/club52196838
Title: Re: Emperor Alexander II "the Liberator"
Post by: thebelgianhare on June 20, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
(http://s57.radikal.ru/i155/1408/2f/a25495c429d5.jpg)


Olga Kalinowska (Oginska) - Alexander's first love

beautiful picture and woman thank you for posting this