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Title: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mrs.Seay on December 13, 2005, 07:27:54 PM
hi all
i work in a vintage clothing and antique store on the east coast of the us.
i came upon this photo i think she may be
maria pavlovna "the elder"  grand duchess of vladmir
any thoughts ?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Beergnome/royaljewels2.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Russian_Duchess_#5 on December 13, 2005, 07:29:01 PM
Can you post the pic?

Sofia
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Mrs.Seay on December 13, 2005, 07:31:30 PM
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Can you post the pic?

Sofia



yep sorry about that it is posted now
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Azarias on December 13, 2005, 07:32:53 PM
What a beautiful photo!
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Mrs.Seay on December 13, 2005, 07:33:59 PM
thanks definately a repo but some one wrote 1893 as the date but that can mean anything
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Mrs.Seay on December 13, 2005, 07:36:00 PM
in your opinion do you think she is in the  maria pavlovna
"the elder"?
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Russian_Duchess_#5 on December 13, 2005, 09:16:25 PM
To me, she's not Alix, thought it does look like her..  
I don't think that those jewels survived the revolution, nearly none did, no matter who they belonged to.  
I am assume that this is the original photo, but scanned?
Because, if you look at her jewelry closely, there is a blue sapphire, and a photo from that era (a sepia photo, no less) would not have any color.  
You can see that the diamonds are the color white and gleaming, also.
This photo has been tampered with.  
Or am I seeing things?

Sofia  


Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Mrs.Seay on December 13, 2005, 09:30:54 PM
well i have to agree with you there is some blue grey in the photo print or what ever it is but any information on her identity would be greatly appreicated as i would love to give her , her name
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Lanie on December 13, 2005, 11:45:46 PM
I doubt it's any Romanov.  Probably some noble person, doesn't have to have been Russian, etc.  Definitely is NOT Maria Pavlovna Sr.
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on December 14, 2005, 01:33:47 AM
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I doubt it's any Romanov.  Probably some noble person, doesn't have to have been Russian, etc.  Definitely is NOT Maria Pavlovna Sr.



Looks like Elena of Montenegro, Queen of Italy to me--even maybe Stana or Militsa of Montenegro, her sisters.



Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Mrs.Seay on December 14, 2005, 07:13:30 PM
thanks for the possible clues to finding this womans identity my biggest wish is to give her her name and possably her family
regards
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Mrs.Seay on December 16, 2005, 12:06:05 AM
i am still researching this individuals identity i did find some photos online of the montenegro sisters (elena,stana and militsa) very possably one of these ladies (by just looking at facial visage) again any site that i can gain access to and use for research would be greatly appreicated as i am finding some sights have definate clues but are extremely elitist.
regards
Mrs. Seay
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on December 24, 2005, 10:21:57 PM
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6880/someone1gb.th.png) (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=someone1gb.png)
When someone finds out who this woman is, do you mind telling me who this is? I was thinking Maria or Anastasia...
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: otmafan on December 25, 2005, 10:40:00 AM
I always thought it was Olga since there is another photograph of Olga running around with a camera in the book. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Lanie on December 25, 2005, 03:19:16 PM
That's Olga.
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Mrs.Seay on January 09, 2006, 02:43:39 PM
i am sorry for my ignorance olga who?  and thanks again every one for any clues to this individuals identity.
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Laura Mabee on January 09, 2006, 03:45:54 PM
Olga Nikolaievna Romanova
First born daughter to Nicholas II

If you're interested in more information click here (http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=olga)

I believe the answer of Olga's identity was to this image however:
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6880/someone1gb.th.png) (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=someone1gb.png)
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Mrs.Seay on January 09, 2006, 04:23:51 PM
wow now i am really showing my ignorance  :)
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Olga_Anna on January 10, 2006, 07:06:26 PM
How can you be sure it's Olga? It looks like Tatiana to me.
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: granduchess_leah on March 01, 2006, 11:55:41 AM
its tatiana im sure
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Laura Mabee on March 01, 2006, 12:20:18 PM
I don't think we can really judge on their backside.
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: AnastasiaMischief on May 08, 2006, 07:42:35 PM
she reminds me of Maria or Tatiana- but i don't think it's Olga
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: koloagirl on April 27, 2007, 12:48:14 AM
 ;D

Aloha all!

I thought I might create a thread where folks could put pictures of varous people tied to or members of the Russian Imperial Family -- but can't identify who it is.

We have so many experts out there that I know can help with this --- so I'll be the first to post a picture -- it is identified on EBay as being Ella -- obviously it isn't, but I'd be curious as to just who it really is!

Anyone???  (Sarushka, GDElla -- I know one of you will know this one!)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/Koloagirl/cc10-07.jpg)


Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: Lisa on April 27, 2007, 10:45:06 AM
A grand duchess Elizabeth indeed, but Mavrikievna, Constantin Constantinovich's wife!...in her weding dress...
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7761/file0029ari2.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification or Captions
Post by: koloagirl on April 30, 2007, 08:24:39 PM
 ;D

Aloha again!
 
Lisa -- thank you so much -- I knew with all our experts out there I'd have my answer in a snip!   ;D

Thanks again!

Janet
Title: Is this Maria?
Post by: Grand_Duchess_Olga on July 18, 2007, 12:15:52 PM
 ??? I am a bit confused I saw this on a website, but I am not sure if it is Maria or not.  Hope you guys can clear it up!

(http://C:\Documents and Settings\Hilary Alder\My Documents\My Pictures)
Title: Re: Is this Maria?
Post by: Grand_Duchess_Olga on July 18, 2007, 12:21:28 PM
<img src="http://a46.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/30/l_fdf87805fb94d342f37306ebeb39fa75.png">
Title: Re: Is this Maria?
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 18, 2007, 12:46:17 PM
oh that is definatley marie!!
but its a photoshop... its fake, not real

photoshopping is where you take a head or a body and paste it on somebody else.
its rather fun! :D
Title: Re: Is this Maria?
Post by: Grand_Duchess_Olga on July 18, 2007, 12:55:57 PM
Thank you! I was thinking of that but I thought I would just check with all you wonderful people!
Title: Re: Is this Maria?
Post by: RealAnastasia on July 18, 2007, 11:08:06 PM
I think we have this very same photo here, in the "Having Fun!" Forums... ::) ;D I liked it a lot.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Is this Maria?
Post by: grandduchess_42 on July 21, 2007, 10:31:29 AM
I think we have this very same photo here, in the "Having Fun!" Forums... ::) ;D I liked it a lot.

RealAnastasia.

yes!
it is under the photoshop thread!
i must update that... because i've been doing alot of photoshopping lately! ;)

i don't remember who made it though!
Title: Anyone Know This Mystery Lady?
Post by: NAOTMAA Fan on September 09, 2007, 04:44:45 PM
Hi there, I've recently come into contact with a rather fascinating individual who's great aunt was in fact a retainer of the Imperial Family up until 1905. He has many photographs, but one in particular stands out.
It's one  of a young lady, in Court Dress, with writing on the back (by his great aunt) detailing mostly about the dress itself. If anyone knows who she may be you'd be doing a great service to my friend and maybe even solving something of a family mystery!

Lady In Court Dress:

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x232/KeeganYoung/th_lottepicture.jpg) (http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x232/KeeganYoung/lottepicture.jpg)

Back Note:
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x232/KeeganYoung/th_lottenote.jpg) (http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x232/KeeganYoung/lottenote.jpg)

Photos courtesy of Chris.
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Mystery Lady?
Post by: Grand Duchess Marishka on September 10, 2007, 05:37:08 PM
I'm so sorry I don't know and I'm actually replying! I just wanted to say that I thought it was soooo impressive that you know someone so closely related, and with photographs and everything! It's just so amazing! All these sorts of things get me excited, hahahaha!

Best of luck with your picture. Surely someone will recognize it!
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Mystery Lady?
Post by: grandduchess_42 on September 10, 2007, 07:46:38 PM
keegan!
where did you find this?
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Mystery Lady?
Post by: NAOTMAA Fan on September 12, 2007, 03:41:32 PM
I'm so sorry I don't know and I'm actually replying! I just wanted to say that I thought it was soooo impressive that you know someone so closely related, and with photographs and everything! It's just so amazing! All these sorts of things get me excited, hahahaha!

Best of luck with your picture. Surely someone will recognize it!

Wow thank you, I'm so pleased to have met him!!! No, I know what it's like, I was terribly excited when he told me about this.

And I hope so, I'd really like to know too who she is!!

keegan!
where did you find this?

A recent friend of mine I met at DeviantArt!! With his connection to the Imperial Court, he shares our interest in the Romanovs. He thought I might be able to identify her...but alas not so much.
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Mystery Lady?
Post by: Natasya on September 12, 2007, 08:18:25 PM
I've seen pictures of that dress labled as Xenia's, aand I think that kind of looks like her. That would be my best guess, mostly because of the dress.
Title: Re: Anyone Know This Mystery Lady?
Post by: NAOTMAA Fan on September 17, 2007, 03:21:57 PM
I've seen pictures of that dress labeled as Xenia's, and I think that kind of looks like her. That would be my best guess, mostly because of the dress.

Well thank you so much for letting me know!!! Every idea helps, and I thank you very much for posting.
Title: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 01, 2008, 05:02:39 PM
Hello.
i was wondering who colored/painted this wonderful picture of the Tsar?

To me it looks like a colorization...
The picture is Here (http://www.lacoctelera.com/myfiles/retratosdelahistoria/Nicolas-II,-Emperador-de-Rusia_1.JPG)


This also could be a thread for people who don't know who is in what photo.. just a thought ;)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: RealAnastasia on January 01, 2008, 06:10:49 PM
I've seen recently this pic in an Argentinian site in which they tell the "Nicholas and Alexandra" story, for newbies. I saw this very picture a day I wrote "Nicolás y Alejandra" in Google Searcher (Image section). I was directed to a site named "La Coctelera" (www.lacoctelera.com.ar)  who has a lot of different pages on diffrenet issues. One of these was the page consacred to Nicholas and Alexandra. I remember I took this pic to my archive, for it is very rare and NEVER seen it in black and white.

Hope I could help you...

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: RealAnastasia on January 01, 2008, 06:13:01 PM
Ugh...What an idiot I am...I didn't noticed that, when you opens the picture link, it saids it's taken from "La Coctelera"... ::)

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 01, 2008, 06:30:46 PM
haha quite all right :D

i just wanted to know who colored/painted it
its magnificant!!
the most realistic thing.
thanks for all the information.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Holly on January 02, 2008, 12:15:52 AM
I don't know who could've colored it but I don't think it looks very realistic. Especially the face.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 02, 2008, 11:24:38 AM
i wonder what the symbol in the corner means?
RDA
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on January 02, 2008, 04:58:50 PM
Identification of people in photos:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1000879.jpg (Who are the people in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001071.jpg (Which girls?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001114.jpg (Which girl?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001199.jpg (Which girl?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001251.jpg (Olga and Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001174.jpg (Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001133.jpg (Olga and Tatiana?)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: julia.montague on January 02, 2008, 05:04:10 PM
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http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001071.jpg (Which girls?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001114.jpg (Which girl?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001199.jpg (Which girl?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001251.jpg (Olga and Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001174.jpg (Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001133.jpg (Olga and Tatiana?)

1. Tatiana and Olga
2. Olga
3. Tatiana
4. Tatiana and Olga
5. Tatiana
6. Olga and Tatiana
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on January 02, 2008, 05:25:31 PM
Thanks!

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1000879.jpg (Who are the people in this photo?)

You don't know this one?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Natasya on January 02, 2008, 08:36:23 PM
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http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001071.jpg (Which girls?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001114.jpg (Which girl?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001199.jpg (Which girl?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001251.jpg (Olga and Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001174.jpg (Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001133.jpg (Olga and Tatiana?)

1. Tatiana and Olga
2. Olga
3. Tatiana
4. Tatiana and Olga
5. Tatiana
6. Olga and Tatiana
I think 2. is Marie. It could be Olga...now that I look at it again. But I still think Marie. Anyone know for sure?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on January 02, 2008, 09:00:11 PM
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http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001071.jpg (Which girls?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001114.jpg (Which girl?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001199.jpg (Which girl?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001251.jpg (Olga and Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001174.jpg (Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001133.jpg (Olga and Tatiana?)

1. Tatiana and Olga
2. Olga
3. Tatiana
4. Tatiana and Olga
5. Tatiana
6. Olga and Tatiana
I think 2. is Marie. It could be Olga...now that I look at it again. But I still think Marie. Anyone know for sure?

I think it's Nether, Looks like Tatiana to me. I don't remember who, but I think someone said it was Tatiana.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: rosieposie on January 03, 2008, 04:41:09 AM
Thanks!

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1000879.jpg (Who are the people in this photo?)

You don't know this one?

Looking at pic there is no OTMA reference I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: julia.montague on January 03, 2008, 08:32:23 AM
I still think the 2nd photo is Olga :)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 03, 2008, 08:51:04 AM
I still think the 2nd photo is Olga :)

Jelisaveta is right.. its Olga N.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 03, 2008, 08:52:51 AM
can somebody help identify all the people in this group photo?
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/54f6d01b.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on January 03, 2008, 10:19:25 AM
I still think the 2nd photo is Olga :)

Jelisaveta is right.. its Olga N.

OK! That's good to know! thanks! I was bugging me...

Lynn
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 03, 2008, 11:21:11 AM
sure no problem :)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on January 08, 2008, 12:46:51 PM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/denmark3.jpg

Is this Tatiana & Olga?
And who is the woman?

Tatianochka.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Laura_ on January 08, 2008, 01:04:49 PM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/denmark3.jpg

Is this Tatiana & Olga?
And who is the woman?

Tatianochka.

Olga with her great grandmother, Queen Louise of Denmark.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on January 08, 2008, 03:24:16 PM
Is the other baby Tatiana?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 08, 2008, 08:01:19 PM
i don't think that is tatiana!
it doesn't look like her, but i could be wrong.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Stasie on January 08, 2008, 08:19:24 PM
It's not Tatiana. It's Princess Marie, daughter of Prince Waldemar. (Queen Louise of Denmark's youngest granddaughter)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on January 12, 2008, 10:15:27 AM
Who all is in this photo?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/OTMCrimea1900.jpg

Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on January 12, 2008, 11:56:46 AM
Who all is in this photo?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/OTMCrimea1900.jpg



the little girls are Olga,Tatiana and Maria. I'm not sure who the others are....
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on January 12, 2008, 01:12:38 PM
It's not Tatiana. It's Princess Marie, daughter of Prince Waldemar. (Queen Louise of Denmark's youngest granddaughter)

thank you statsie!
i new it couldn't be Tanya.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on January 12, 2008, 08:40:50 PM
Who all is in this photo?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/OTMCrimea1900.jpg



the little girls are Olga,Tatiana and Maria. I'm not sure who the others are....

The woman on the bench looks like Margaret Eagar to me.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on January 13, 2008, 09:08:36 AM
Who all is in this photo?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/OTMCrimea1900.jpg



the little girls are Olga,Tatiana and Maria. I'm not sure who the others are....

The woman on the bench looks like Margaret Eagar to me.

Is the girl beside her Tatiana?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on January 13, 2008, 09:35:08 PM
Who all is in this photo?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/OTMCrimea1900.jpg



the little girls are Olga,Tatiana and Maria. I'm not sure who the others are....

The woman on the bench looks like Margaret Eagar to me.

Is the girl beside her Tatiana?

Yes, That looks like Tatiana. Olga is the one standing then...
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on January 26, 2008, 06:45:34 PM
When was this taken and who is in it?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/Ap130120.jpg

Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Peterhof on January 26, 2008, 06:57:17 PM
When was this taken and who is in it?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/Ap130120.jpg



Err... Judy Garland and Eddy Murphy?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on January 26, 2008, 07:02:20 PM
When was this taken and who is in it?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/Ap130120.jpg

I would guess this was taken during the post-WWII restoration of the AP. They're likely two museum workers.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on February 01, 2008, 05:31:32 PM
What room is this?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1000461.jpg
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on February 01, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
What room is this?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1000461.jpg

Alexandra's formal reception room.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 02, 2008, 09:31:58 AM
What room is this?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1000461.jpg

Alexandra's formal reception room.

is that the original Marie Antoinette portrait?
how did she get it?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on February 02, 2008, 02:26:19 PM
What room is this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/1913.jpg) and who's on the bed, Maria or Alexei?? I think its Mashka...not sure though, the face is to dark!

Lynn
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on February 02, 2008, 02:57:25 PM
What room is this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/1913.jpg) and who's on the bed, Maria or Alexei?? I think its Mashka...not sure though, the face is to dark!

I've been told that's Aleksei's room in Livadia. I have a version of that photo with a Russian caption that says something like "the tsar's family around the sickbed of Aleksei."
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Stasie on February 02, 2008, 04:02:37 PM
Is the boy in this picture Alexei? The man next to him kinda looks like his French tutor.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/Alexei/ddddddddddcv4.png (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/Alexei/ddddddddddcv4.png)

Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Holly on February 02, 2008, 04:43:13 PM
I thought that was Gilliard.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Justine on February 02, 2008, 05:04:16 PM
Is the boy in this picture Alexei? The man next to him kinda looks like his French tutor.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/Alexei/ddddddddddcv4.png (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/Alexei/ddddddddddcv4.png)


It's Alexei with Pierre Gilliard
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on February 02, 2008, 07:07:32 PM
Is the boy in this picture Alexei? The man next to him kinda looks like his French tutor.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/Alexei/ddddddddddcv4.png (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/Alexei/ddddddddddcv4.png)

Pierre Gilliard spoke and taught French, but he was from Switzerland. ;)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Peterhof on February 02, 2008, 08:12:51 PM
Is the boy in this picture Alexei? The man next to him kinda looks like his French tutor.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/Alexei/ddddddddddcv4.png (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/Alexei/ddddddddddcv4.png)



Was this picture taken when the IP was under arrest at the AP?  Are they sitting right across from the children Island?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Peterhof on February 02, 2008, 08:20:53 PM
Is that OTMA at the window?

(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd207/peterhof_album/Review.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 02, 2008, 09:51:29 PM
What room is this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/raybe77/1913.jpg) and who's on the bed, Maria or Alexei?? I think its Mashka...not sure though, the face is to dark!

I've been told that's Aleksei's room in Livadia. I have a version of that photo with a Russian caption that says something like "the tsar's family around the sickbed of Aleksei."

did nicholas ever have a cane?
or is that Alix's?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on February 02, 2008, 11:08:38 PM
did nicholas ever have a cane?
or is that Alix's?


Not that I know of. They used walking sticks sometimes when they hiked, though.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on February 03, 2008, 08:52:16 AM
Is that OTMA at the window?

(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd207/peterhof_album/Review.jpg)

I think so...
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on February 03, 2008, 10:34:20 AM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/untitledjhu.jpg (Girl playing tennis...Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/00171004.jpg (Who is in this and does someone have in bigger?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/00171005.jpg (Who is in this and does someone have in bigger?)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on February 03, 2008, 07:52:21 PM
The first photo you posted could possibly be Tatiana, but I really don't know for sure.

Tatiana:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tennis/th_tatpoland.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tennis/tatpoland.jpg)

Anastasia and a Polish girl:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tennis/th_anapoland.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tennis/anapoland.jpg)

Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Peterhof on February 03, 2008, 09:28:23 PM
The first photo you posted could possibly be Tatiana, but I really don't know for sure.

Tatiana:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tennis/th_tatpoland.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tennis/tatpoland.jpg)

Anastasia and a Polish girl:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tennis/th_anapoland.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Tennis/anapoland.jpg)



Is it true this clay court was built in an island?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on February 04, 2008, 09:24:44 AM
Is it true this clay court was built in an island?

I don't know; I'd never heard that before. I do know these particular photos were taken in Spala.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: matushka on February 04, 2008, 10:49:35 AM
A tennis court was indeed built in a island in Finland, in 1912 (or was that 1911?). Spiridovitch related all the story. But these pictures, as Sarushka said, are from Spala.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on February 04, 2008, 02:35:33 PM
Where those pictures taken in 1912?

And could the other children playing tennis be the offspring of people working at Spala?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on February 04, 2008, 03:25:46 PM
Where those pictures taken in 1912?

Yes, I believe so.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 04, 2008, 07:05:26 PM
Is it true this clay court was built in an island?

I don't know; I'd never heard that before. I do know these particular photos were taken in Spala.
that you!
i was just about to ask where were the courts!!
thanks sarushka.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on February 06, 2008, 10:19:35 AM
What year was this taken?
 http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/aaaaaaa.jpg

I found this on a Russian website,could someone please translate it?
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/rojdestvo.jpg

Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 06, 2008, 12:12:57 PM
What year was this taken?
 http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/aaaaaaa.jpg

1912?-13
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on February 06, 2008, 12:49:27 PM
What year was this taken?
 http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/aaaaaaa.jpg

1912?-13

Wasn't Tatiana's hair up by then? so maybe 1910 or 11? I know it was down than!

Lynn
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 06, 2008, 01:44:58 PM
What year was this taken?
 http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/aaaaaaa.jpg

1912?-13

Wasn't Tatiana's hair up by then? so maybe 1910 or 11? I know it was down than!

Lynn
her hair was up in 1912?
really!? i thought it was atleast in 1914.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on February 06, 2008, 02:54:13 PM
What year was this taken?
 http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/aaaaaaa.jpg

1912?-13

Wasn't Tatiana's hair up by then? so maybe 1910 or 11? I know it was down than!

Lynn
her hair was up in 1912?
really!? i thought it was atleast in 1914.

she was sick around 1912 or 13 and her hair was cut really short. then she was wearing a wig. by 1914 it was to her shoulders.

Lynn
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: matushka on February 06, 2008, 03:31:10 PM
I think I remember the full photo, a 1911 one.
About the postcard in russian. It tells only: Merry christmas with the text of a Christmas'prayer (Kondakion). You can find the english text in any orthodox english site, I believe.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 06, 2008, 03:38:04 PM
What year was this taken?
 http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/aaaaaaa.jpg

1912?-13

Wasn't Tatiana's hair up by then? so maybe 1910 or 11? I know it was down than!

Lynn
her hair was up in 1912?
really!? i thought it was atleast in 1914.

oh yup!
your right.. how could i have forgotten that!!

she was sick around 1912 or 13 and her hair was cut really short. then she was wearing a wig. by 1914 it was to her shoulders.

Lynn
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on February 13, 2008, 12:37:14 PM
Identification please...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/i570485348049357kj.jpg(which girls?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/alixgirlscity8qu3886iy.jpg(who is who?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/a157356.jpg(Olga and Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1002313.jpg(Olga or Tatiana?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1002128.jpg(who is who? and where was it taken?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001972-1.jpg(who is who?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/00154006.jpg(who is who?)

Thanks,Tatianochka.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Marie-Catherine on February 13, 2008, 04:16:23 PM
Identification please...

1.http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/i570485348049357kj.jpg(which girls?)

2http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/alixgirlscity8qu3886iy.jpg(who is who?)

3http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/a157356.jpg(Olga and Tatiana?)

4http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1002313.jpg(Olga or Tatiana?)

5http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1002128.jpg(who is who? and where was it taken?)

6http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/1001972-1.jpg(who is who?)

7http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/00154006.jpg(who is who?)

Thanks,Tatianochka.

I can't see your pictures.. I don't know why ! Sorry !
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: mr_harrison75 on February 13, 2008, 06:08:27 PM
It seems there's a problem with the Photobucket account...caus' I can't see them either!
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Marie-Catherine on February 13, 2008, 07:41:59 PM
AHh ! I just saw the problem. So I'll do my best !

1. I thinks it's OTA, because the lengh of the skirt and the hairs..
2.Olga at front with Alix, Anastasia the little one with Tatiana and Maria at the back,
3.Not sure, but I don't think it's them.
4. Maybe. I saw a picture who was maybe taken the same day and it was Olga.
5. The only ones I'm quit sure it's Olga and Anastasia in the back..
6. I always thought it was Olga and Tatiana
7. It's not really clear, but we can see Nicolas, Alix and Alexei in the front and maybe Olga, Tatiana and Anastasia in white in the back...


Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 17, 2008, 10:42:34 AM
Number six is Olga and Maria. I have the picture bigger and it´s Mashka.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Marie-Catherine on February 17, 2008, 05:45:41 PM
Number six is Olga and Maria. I have the picture bigger and it´s Mashka.

Ahhh! Could you send it to me ? :)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 18, 2008, 04:47:08 AM
Here you go: http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/OlgaaMariesnmonkemnaStandartu.jpg?t=1203331566

I also cleaned it up a bit, so you can more clearly Maria´s face. The gilr could flirt at any age :)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Marie-Catherine on February 18, 2008, 05:15:15 AM
Here you go: http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/OlgaaMariesnmonkemnaStandartu.jpg?t=1203331566

I also cleaned it up a bit, so you can more clearly Maria´s face. The gilr could flirt at any age :)

Ahhh! Thank you very much !
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Holly on February 18, 2008, 08:40:13 AM
1 - Tatiana, Anastasia, and Olga.
2 - Alexandra, Olga, Tatiana, Anastasia, Maria.
3 - Nurses, but not any of the Romanovs.
4 - Olga.
5 - Anastasia, Olga, and Maria.
6 - Olga and Maria.
7 - Coming from the back: Anastasia, Maria, Tatiana, and Olga. In front: Alexei, Alexandra, and Nicholas.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Ally Kumari on February 18, 2008, 04:21:09 PM
http://highway55.library.yale.edu/ROMANOVIMG/size4/D0046/1000638.jpg

Olga or Tatiana?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Holly on February 18, 2008, 04:24:51 PM
http://highway55.library.yale.edu/ROMANOVIMG/size4/D0046/1000638.jpg

Olga or Tatiana?

That's Olga.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on February 24, 2008, 04:49:05 PM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/fgdfdfdftq4.png(Who is all in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/lorinb3.jpg(I know this is a photoshoped image of Tatiana,but what real photo is her head from?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/untitledjdjdj.jpg(Someone have this in full?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/untitledfff.jpg(Who is in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/romania191480percent6pk.jpg(Who is the girl on Tatiana's lap?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/TatianaOrtino.jpg(Someone have this any  bigger?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/summer20fun20banner.gif(I know someone else made this banner,but does someone have the real version of the photos in the banner?)

T.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Holly on February 24, 2008, 04:53:22 PM
I think the majority of your questions belong more in the Looking for Pictures thread than they do in this one. You might get an answer faster there.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 24, 2008, 05:17:34 PM
I think the majority of your questions belong more in the Looking for Pictures thread than they do in this one. You might get an answer faster there.

yes i have to agree

and i can see have of your pictures.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on February 24, 2008, 05:18:03 PM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/fgdfdfdftq4.png (Who is all in this photo?)

IMO: GD Ella Feodorovna in black at the rear, GD Sergei Aleksandrovich on the right, and Maria Pavlovna Jr. seated beside him. I don't know the others.


Quote
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/untitledfff.jpg (Who is in this photo?)

Is this from the Beinicke collection? If so, they may be Anna Vyrubova's nieces.


Quote
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/romania191480percent6pk.jpg (Who is the girl on Tatiana's lap?)

I know she's a member of the Romanian royal family, but I'm not sure who -- Ileana, perhaps?



If you put a space between your link and your question, the links will work. :)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 24, 2008, 07:53:12 PM
oh wow :o
that photoshoped image is mine...
her face is from the 1914 image.

thats my banner too
i have those pictures on my other computer.. i'll post them when i have time.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on February 25, 2008, 11:30:16 AM
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/fgdfdfdftq4.png (Who is all in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/lorinb3.jpg (I know this is a photoshoped image of Tatiana,but what real photo is her head from?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/untitledjdjdj.jpg (Someone have this in full?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/untitledfff.jpg (Who is in this photo?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/romania191480percent6pk.jpg (Who is the girl on Tatiana's lap?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/TatianaOrtino.jpg (Someone have this any  bigger?)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/summer20fun20banner.gif (I know someone else made this banner,but does someone have the real version of the photos in the banner?)

T.

There I fixed the links and will post some of these in the Looking for Photos thread...
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on February 26, 2008, 09:37:56 PM
this is really identification, but i didn't know where else to put it
what is Marie doing with this officer in this (http://highway55.library.yale.edu/ROMANOVIMG/size3/D0043/1000596.jpg) picture
Title: Anyone knows who is this woman
Post by: anastasia.prue on March 02, 2008, 08:30:33 AM
Hey everyone,

I found this pics at my PC under the organizer "Alix" but I think the woman not look like Alix, Anyone know who is that?

(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3048/61c71mq1.th.jpg) (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=61c71mq1.jpg)

Thanx for answer

your anastasia.prue
Title: Re: Anyone knows who is this woman
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on March 02, 2008, 08:44:06 AM
I think it's Alexandra,but I'm not sure! :)

Tatianochka.
Title: Re: Anyone knows who is this woman
Post by: grandduchess_42 on March 02, 2008, 09:25:47 AM
you might want to pose that on the identification thread.

but i'm going to say alexandra.. but a part of me says ella... its a rather grainy photo.
Title: Re: Anyone knows who is this woman
Post by: Gabriella on March 02, 2008, 04:11:07 PM
Hello to everyone,

it's very hard to identify the woman in the picture for it's so blurred and especially the part around the woman's face is diffuse, her face is shadowed by her hat.

I do not know who the woman in the picture really nor do I want to conjecture about her identity. I think as long as we don't know anything about it's source and the specific time and place it was made one cannot say the woman shown is Alix or Ella or somebody else.

Regards,

Gabriella
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Stasie on March 10, 2008, 04:42:07 PM
Are these two Felix and Irina Yussupov?

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/felixx.jpg (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/felixx.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on March 10, 2008, 09:14:58 PM
Are these two Felix and Irina Yussupov?

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/felixx.jpg (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/otmaa/felixx.jpg)

I don't believe so, but I wouldn't swear to it.
Title: Who is she?
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on March 16, 2008, 06:31:00 PM
I have this necklace and wondered is the woman on it anyone in particular? :)

Any royal?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/scan0007.jpg

Tatianochka.
Title: Re: Who is she?
Post by: grandduchess_42 on March 16, 2008, 06:48:56 PM
that really could be anybody...
very pretty...
Title: Re: Who is she?
Post by: Lisa on March 17, 2008, 12:52:41 PM
It's a portrait painted by Raffaelo, La Velata (1514-15) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_velata
Title: Re: Who is she?
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on March 17, 2008, 04:28:24 PM
Hi,

Thanks for the information and saying it was pretty!

Tatianochka. :)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on April 05, 2008, 10:45:27 PM
Which Daughter? (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/45757.jpg)

Lynn
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on April 05, 2008, 11:31:33 PM
Which Daughter? (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/45757.jpg)

IMO, Tatiana, though I've also seen her identified as Olga.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on April 06, 2008, 12:42:39 AM
Which Daughter? (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/45757.jpg)

IMO, Tatiana, though I've also seen her identified as Olga.

thanks! thats what I was thinking..

Lynn
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on April 06, 2008, 12:10:11 PM
Who are these people, I found it on a site about Queen Victoria and her family....

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u160/LA_princess_03/sitonbeach.jpg

Bye and Thanks, Tatianochka. :) ;)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Peterhof on April 06, 2008, 04:31:13 PM
Could anyone tell me what is this telegram about?  I hope I posted it in the right place.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd207/peterhof_album/Telegram.jpg
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on April 06, 2008, 05:16:57 PM
Marie (http://highway55.library.yale.edu/ROMANOVIMG/size4/D0002/00024015.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on April 06, 2008, 06:33:35 PM
Could anyone tell me what is this telegram about?  I hope I posted it in the right place.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd207/peterhof_album/Telegram.jpg

It appears to be an update on the health of the tsarevich, sent to GD Nikolai Nikolaevich. I don't see a date, but I would guess either autumn 1912 (Spala), or the winter of 1915 (nosebleed at Stavka).
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Peterhof on April 06, 2008, 09:08:01 PM
I really appreciate that, Sarushka.  At the top right hand corner seems to read October 9 1912, that would mean the Spala crisis.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on April 06, 2008, 09:39:52 PM
Could anyone tell me what is this telegram about?  I hope I posted it in the right place.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd207/peterhof_album/Telegram.jpg

wow i can't even believe they still have things like that.. amazing!
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Sarushka on April 06, 2008, 10:25:37 PM
I really appreciate that, Sarushka.  At the top right hand corner seems to read October 9 1912, that would mean the Spala crisis.

You're absolutely right -- that would have been the height of the Spala crisis.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: halen on April 07, 2008, 08:35:25 AM
Fantastic to see that telegram and that it still exists. Would it be possible for someone to translate what it says?

Merci and thank you.

Louise
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: grandduchess_42 on April 07, 2008, 04:36:57 PM
Would it be possible for someone to translate what it says?

OH PLEASE YES
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on May 22, 2008, 11:07:57 AM
which daughters?
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/th_AliceLouis3ofthegirls.jpg) (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/AliceLouis3ofthegirls.jpg)

Who all is in this picture?
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/th_fdfsd.jpg) (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/fdfsd.jpg)
 
Lynn
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Gabriella on May 22, 2008, 12:23:26 PM
which daughters?
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/th_AliceLouis3ofthegirls.jpg) (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/AliceLouis3ofthegirls.jpg)

Hello,

the picture shows Alice and Louis with their daughters Victoria, Elisabeth (Ella) and Irene.
The one on Louis' nap is Irene. About the other twos I am not sure which one's Ella and which one is Victoria.
From my point of view the one in front is Ella and the one on Alice's side Victoria, but could be also the other
way round.

Please correct me when I am wrong.

Regards,

Gabriella
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on May 22, 2008, 12:45:36 PM
which daughters?
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/th_AliceLouis3ofthegirls.jpg) (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll95/GD_Lynn/AliceLouis3ofthegirls.jpg)

Hello,

the picture shows Alice and Louis with their daughters Victoria, Elisabeth (Ella) and Irene.
The one on Louis' nap is Irene. About the other twos I am not sure which one's Ella and which one is Victoria.
From my point of view the one in front is Ella and the one on Alice's side Victoria, but could be also the other
way round.

Please correct me when I am wrong.

Regards,

Gabriella

Thank you!

Lynn
Title: Which picture it is ?
Post by: Marie-Catherine on June 12, 2008, 03:46:06 PM
Ok, I was thinking about a game who could be really fun and test your knowledge about the pictures of the Romanovs.

The game is pretty easy. You deform a picture and other people have to post the real picture.When it's really hard, people could give hints.

Exemple (I used picnik.com):

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/th_deform.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/deform.jpg)

And hints could be : At the beach, 3 of the daughters are present.

And the answer would be :


(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/th_2-2.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/2-2.jpg)

 So here's the first real picture (a REALLY easy one) :

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/th_deform-1.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/deform-1.jpg)

Hints : Do you really need one ? =) So.. it's during winter.
 
Title: Re: Which picture it is ?
Post by: nena on June 12, 2008, 04:23:59 PM
Maria Nicholaievna, winter 1914--at Alexander Park
Here (http://livadia.org/mashka/images/mashkaicealexandrovsky1914.jpg)'s 
Sorry,I don't have at the moment any Romanov blur/deformed picture to continue.
Can anyone else post instead me? 
Title: Re: Which picture it is ?
Post by: Sarushka on June 12, 2008, 05:18:51 PM
Hee. Looks like Salvador Dali got hold of that beach picture! ; )
Title: Re: Which picture it is ?
Post by: pastpalacelife on July 22, 2008, 09:17:37 PM
In that picture of Marie on the ice, is that the kitchen building behind her?
Title: Re: Which picture it is ?
Post by: nena on July 22, 2008, 09:19:35 PM
It's Alexander Palace(if you mean name of building)......
Title: What's on the table?
Post by: charley on July 29, 2008, 11:26:04 PM
I think it would be neat to post pictures of the table that sits next to the famous chair in Alix's room. If we could go back as far as possible and move forward. It would be interesting to see what comes and goes over time.

This is the table, I think circa 1907-1908. Anything earlier?

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/charley4/aaa.jpg)
Title: Re: What's on the table?
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on July 30, 2008, 10:27:12 AM
Is there a full version of that photo?
Title: Re: What's on the table?
Post by: charley on July 30, 2008, 10:35:24 AM
The rest of the table is cut off.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/charley4/33.jpg)
Title: Re: What's on the table?
Post by: Russka Princess on July 30, 2008, 01:14:25 PM
 hmmm ist interestet, i cant aware which photos they are.

strange..
Title: Re: What's on the table?
Post by: tom_romanov on July 30, 2008, 01:59:30 PM
i've found a few photos but you cant really see the table  :(
Title: Re: What's on the table?
Post by: charley on July 31, 2008, 07:14:35 PM
Here is the table around 1911. Flowers have been added. There is also a large book or box on the lower shelf and some of the pictures are missing from the window sill.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/charley4/fromcameravideo.jpg)
Title: Re: What's on the table?
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on August 01, 2008, 04:03:14 PM
Here is the table around 1911. Flowers have been added. There is also a large book or box on the lower shelf and some of the pictures are missing from the window sill.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/charley4/fromcameravideo.jpg)

Sorry to keep asking this,but what is the full of that photo?
Title: Re: What's on the table?
Post by: grandduchess_42 on August 01, 2008, 04:42:37 PM
I think it would be neat to post pictures of the table that sits next to the famous chair in Alix's room. If we could go back as far as possible and move forward. It would be interesting to see what comes and goes over time.

This is the table, I think circa 1907-1908. Anything earlier?

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/charley4/aaa.jpg)


it looks like one of them is a monument, or some sorts
and one looks like Alexei
Title: Re: What's on the table?
Post by: charley on August 02, 2008, 08:41:58 AM
it looks like one of them is a monument, or some sorts
and one looks like Alexei

Actually that really looks like a Celtic Cross. Did they ever go to Ireland or Scottland?
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/charley4/celticcross-1.jpg)
Title: Re: What's on the table?
Post by: charley on August 02, 2008, 08:53:18 AM
Here is the table around 1911. Flowers have been added. There is also a large book or box on the lower shelf and some of the pictures are missing from the window sill.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/charley4/fromcameravideo.jpg)

Sorry to keep asking this,but what is the full of that photo?

That's okay. Do you all think we should use the full photo or zoom in on the table?

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/charley4/Copyoffromcameravideo.jpg)
Title: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: TsarMartyrNicholas on August 18, 2008, 03:23:25 PM
http://www.hi5.com/friend/profile/displayProfile.do?userid=209351775

Has anyone some informations about this young man?

I found him on hi5.com ....
some sections on his profile are in Greek , but also has in english.....

thanx
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: LisaDavidson on August 18, 2008, 03:58:25 PM
http://www.hi5.com/friend/profile/displayProfile.do?userid=209351775

Has anyone some informations about this young man?

I found him on hi5.com ....
some sections on his profile are in Greek , but also has in english.....

thanx

As a grand duke, he's an imposter. Serbia has no monarchy. Its former monarchy is the House of Karageorgevic, its head is Crown Prince Alexander, and there are no grand dukes associated with this dynasty.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: TsarMartyrNicholas on August 19, 2008, 06:45:32 AM
Thank you Lisa for the answers!
I agree with you , he may be an imposter . I support HRH Crown Prince Aleksandar II on Serbia .
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: LisaDavidson on August 19, 2008, 12:38:34 PM
Thank you Lisa for the answers!
I agree with you , he may be an imposter . I support HRH Crown Prince Aleksandar II on Serbia .

Not may be, he is an imposter. For whatever it's worth, I, too, support HRH Crown Prince Aleksandar.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: I am_Tatianochka on August 22, 2008, 05:03:02 PM
Is the girl Olga or Tatiana?

(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3859/1001484nj9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Peter Karlov on August 22, 2008, 07:22:54 PM
I think the answer is very simple!
Situation in Serbia is similar to the Bourbons and Bonapartes in France, or Bourbons and Murat in Naples, or Pahlavi and Qadjar in Iran, ecc.
H.I.H. the Grand Duke (Veliki Zupan in Serbian) discent from the Medieval Emperors and Kings of Serbia. He is the Head of the Imperial House.
H.R.H. the Crown Prince discent from the modern Kings of Serbia. He is the Head of the Royal House.
Are both royalties.
I think that is not our duty choose the next ruler of serbia but the duty of the serbian people.
Sorry for my english...
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: StevenL on August 22, 2008, 07:53:43 PM
I think the answer is very simple!
Situation in Serbia is similar to the Bourbons and Bonapartes in France, or Bourbons and Murat in Naples, or Pahlavi and Qadjar in Iran, ecc.
H.I.H. the Grand Duke (Veliki Zupan in Serbian) discent from the Medieval Emperors and Kings of Serbia. He is the Head of the Imperial House.

No, all the above dynasties you mention are real.

The "Grand Duke" is a complete fake.

Title: Re: Identification
Post by: GDLynn on August 22, 2008, 08:27:18 PM
Is the girl Olga or Tatiana?

(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3859/1001484nj9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

IMO, it's Olga.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Peter Karlov on August 22, 2008, 08:33:06 PM
I don't think so my dearest friend!
He discent from Grand Duke (Veliki Zupan in serbian) Stefan Nemanja I of Serbia, the Saint Simeon, founder of the first Royal and later Imperial House of Serbia.
I propose to you to read the greek edition of "Who is Who"!
I studied balkan, slavic an eastern studies at university of Macedonia! So i am an expert on Balkan and Slavic history!
I don't speak as a monarchist or republiccan. I speak as historian!
Do you have any idea on balkan and particularly on serbian history?
Of course H.R.H. makes better propaganda than H.I.H.
The Crown Prince has much more possibilities. It is true.
Is to difficult for the young Grand Duke restore his house to the serbian throne...
So let the serbian people choose its ruler...
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: nena on August 22, 2008, 08:37:35 PM
Well, I can say I know a lot about Nemanjic dynasty. And, you are correct, but H.R.H can be translated as Veliki Knez, smiliar to Russian Velikie Knyaz.
And you are correct that name came from Middle Ages. Nemanjics ruled from 1166-1371.  ;)

And, before Nemanjics there were sevral dynasties in Serbia--Vukanovic, Viseslavljevic, etc., during 9 and 10th century.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: halen on August 22, 2008, 11:03:42 PM
I have never seen that picture before and its lovely. I have to say that is a new favorite of mine.

I will offer my opinion and say it looks like Tatania, then again, I'm dead on my feet from work and bleary eyed...

Louise
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 23, 2008, 03:22:19 AM
I can´t see the picture so I can´t help.... Could anyone re-post it?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Marie-Catherine on August 23, 2008, 10:26:44 AM
Can't see it neither, but I'm pretty sure it's Olga. Never seen it before too.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 23, 2008, 10:40:03 AM
Oh I can see it now. That´s definitely Olga.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: StevenL on August 23, 2008, 11:51:10 AM
I don't think so my dearest friend!
He discent from Grand Duke (Veliki Zupan in serbian) Stefan Nemanja I of Serbia, the Saint Simeon, founder of the first Royal and later Imperial House of Serbia.
I propose to you to read the greek edition of "Who is Who"!
I studied balkan, slavic an eastern studies at university of Macedonia! So i am an expert on Balkan and Slavic history!
I don't speak as a monarchist or republiccan. I speak as historian!
Do you have any idea on balkan and particularly on serbian history?
Of course H.R.H. makes better propaganda than H.I.H.
The Crown Prince has much more possibilities. It is true.
Is to difficult for the young Grand Duke restore his house to the serbian throne...
So let the serbian people choose its ruler...

Serbia is free to choose anyone it likes, and I truly hope it does!
But you are being hoodwinked by a fraud, one of the worlds countless pseudo-aristocrats.

The claim to be the legitimate heir of the medieval Serb rulers is preposterous and absolutely silly.
Explain every step of the interim succession through the last half-millennium, please.
I cannot wait to see the genealogies (and supporting documents?) that have been dreamed up to
link this spontaneously-appearing prince to his medieval royal ancestors through a long line of 16th,
17th, 18th and 19th century predecessors that the world has also never heard of before now, and for
which there is bound to be little or no documentary or corroborating proofs.






Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: StevenL on August 23, 2008, 11:54:39 AM
I don't think so my dearest friend!
He discent from Grand Duke (Veliki Zupan in serbian) Stefan Nemanja I of Serbia, the Saint Simeon, founder of the first Royal and later Imperial House of Serbia.
I propose to you to read the greek edition of "Who is Who"!
I studied balkan, slavic an eastern studies at university of Macedonia! So i am an expert on Balkan and Slavic history!
I don't speak as a monarchist or republiccan. I speak as historian!
Do you have any idea on balkan and particularly on serbian history?
Of course H.R.H. makes better propaganda than H.I.H.
The Crown Prince has much more possibilities. It is true.
Is to difficult for the young Grand Duke restore his house to the serbian throne...
So let the serbian people choose its ruler...

Serbia is free to choose anyone it likes, and I truly hope it does!
But you are being hoodwinked by a fraud -- one of the worlds countless pseudo-aristocrats.
The sudden emergence of a legitimate heir of the medieval Serb rulers is preposterous and absolutely silly,
like a plot line from a bad sitcom spoof.

As self-declared historian and authority, please explain for us every step of the interim succession through the last half-millennium.
I cannot wait to see the genealogies (and supporting documents?) that have been dreamed up to
link this spontaneously-appearing prince to his medieval royal ancestors through a long line of 16th,
17th, 18th and 19th century predecessors that the world has also never heard of before now, and for
which there is bound to be little or no documentary or corroborating proofs.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Peter Karlov on August 23, 2008, 10:30:17 PM
Dear StevenL, my english is very bad but your english is very very good!
So you can read and understand english!
I am an professional on balkan and slavic history and a man of serbian ancestry!
I propose to you to read the greek edition of "Who is Who"!
Are you professional on balkan and slavic history? Are you of serbian ancestry?
Of course you are not!
Stop the attack to this young man who loves Serbia and who cannot defend himself because he dosen't know about this attack!
It is unfair!
Grand Duke's only dream is the progress and the hapiness of his beloved country! He never claimed any office in serbia!
His family never made any propaganda for restoration!
All that they want is Serbia's good!
So let Him in peace...
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Robert_Hall on August 24, 2008, 12:00:15 AM
What a crock. Try tis on alt.talk. roayalty and see how far it flies.  Some of those guy are REAL experts.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Lucien on August 24, 2008, 02:12:11 AM
Dear StevenL, my english is very bad but your english is very very good!
So you can read and understand english!
I am an professional on balkan and slavic history and a man of serbian ancestry!
I propose to you to read the greek edition of "Who is Who"!
Are you professional on balkan and slavic history? Are you of serbian ancestry?
Of course you are not!
Stop the attack to this young man who loves Serbia and who cannot defend himself because he dosen't know about this attack!
It is unfair!
Grand Duke's only dream is the progress and the hapiness of his beloved country! He never claimed any office in serbia!
His family never made any propaganda for restoration!
All that they want is Serbia's good!
So let Him in peace...

It's not just your english that's bad kid.You're a mental case of the nasty kind as is that crook on the website.Buzz off!!

Seen the website?Seen the "Long live Karazic"nonsense on top??Blithering Idiots.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Robert_Hall on August 24, 2008, 02:21:37 AM
I had not even seen those crackpots, Lucien! And so sorry for my lousy, dyslesic typing.  It seems to be getting worse, but  then, this subject does not induce one to much  erudition, does it?
 I know of another kid who  claims to be the legitimate king of Macedonia. What drives these people, I wonder at times?
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: StevenL on August 24, 2008, 06:52:44 AM
Dear StevenL, my english is very bad but your english is very very good!
So you can read and understand english!
I am an professional on balkan and slavic history and a man of serbian ancestry!
I propose to you to read the greek edition of "Who is Who"!
Are you professional on balkan and slavic history? Are you of serbian ancestry?
Of course you are not!
Stop the attack to this young man who loves Serbia and who cannot defend himself because he dosen't know about this attack!
It is unfair!
Grand Duke's only dream is the progress and the hapiness of his beloved country! He never claimed any office in serbia!
His family never made any propaganda for restoration!
All that they want is Serbia's good!
So let Him in peace...


Once again, where are the scholarly-vetted genealogies and the documents that support the dynastic claims of this spontaneously-appearing self-proclaimed prince? Please produce them for us, emminent professor. Any sane professor would not accept a 500 year-old claim based on an entry in a recent edition of the Greek Who's Who. For a purported scholar, that is absolutely pathetic.

Your "Grand Duke" is a charlatan like Alex Brimeyer, the author of "Le petit fils du Tsar," or the phony-baloney Scottish pretender "Prince Michael of Albany," or Michel Biarneix, who claimed to be a Habsburg and even married the daughter of King Michael, or Andreas von Wernitz, who claims to be "Prince of Salm-Kyrburg," but is actually a nobody with a criminal record from Hungary who actually married a real genuine aristocrat.


Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: StevenL on August 24, 2008, 11:14:16 AM
Incidentally, for the serious scholars of royal genealogy here, I suggest a wonderful little gem I just uncovered here in my office:

Published in Zagreb in 1937 (title page in Serbo-Croatian and English, contents in English):

"King Petar II and Prince Regent Paul: Descendants of the Ancient Serbian Kings"

The co-authors are the emminent genealogist Baron Otto von Dungern and Dr A. Omicikus.
Included are three unbroken lines of descent:

From King Stephen I (+1223) down to King Petar II (+1970)
From Prince Lazar (+1389) down to King Petar II (+1970)
From 11/12 century Grand Zhupan Urosh down to Prince Regent Paul of Yugoslavia (+1976)
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: LisaDavidson on August 24, 2008, 01:08:37 PM
Unless someone can produce some real proof that the gentleman is who he claims he is, I am not going to allow any further discussion about this faux-royal.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Robert_Hall on August 24, 2008, 01:19:16 PM
I have  checked all of my royal reference books, and I certainly can't, Lisa. And some of mine include just about every obscure dynatsy in the charts.  I have posted the question on alt.talk.royalty, however.  There are several real experts there. Let's see what  we get as a response.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: StevenL on August 24, 2008, 05:35:03 PM
I have  checked all of my royal reference books, and I certainly can't, Lisa. And some of mine include just about every obscure dynatsy in the charts.  I have posted the question on alt.talk.royalty, however.  There are several real experts there. Let's see what  we get as a response.

Many of us who specialize in royal genealogy no longer post at ATR due to all the spam and trolls.
A few die-hards post there, but not very often.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Peter Karlov on August 24, 2008, 06:40:26 PM
Oh Dear! What are you talking about?
I told you to read the greek edition of "Who is Who"!
Is it to difficult? If you don't speak greek you can found one greek who speaks english!
Just do it! But i think that you wan't to do it! It's true?
Grand Duke discent from Stephen Nemanya and from Stephen Dushan!
Just do it dears friends, just do it!
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: LisaDavidson on August 24, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
Oh Dear! What are you talking about?
I told you to read the greek edition of "Who is Who"!
Is it to difficult? If you don't speak greek you can found one greek who speaks english!
Just do it! But i think that you wan't to do it! It's true?
Grand Duke discent from Stephen Nemanya and from Stephen Dushan!
Just do it dears friends, just do it!


Mr. Karlov, you have been warned.

Robert Hall, while I am certainly not an geneologist, there are many so called "experts" who post here. Until one of them convinces me that this "grand duke" is anything but a fraud, I will not permit Mr. Karlov to disrespect Crown Prince Alexander by parading this fraud on this Forum.

Are we clear?
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Peter Karlov on August 24, 2008, 08:09:02 PM
Dear Mrs Davidson,
It's your opinion!
Just do all that i told you!
If you don't, that is not my problem but yours!
I respect H.R.H. the Crown Prince and H.I.H the Grand Duke to!
I respect H.I.H. the Prince Jean Christophe Napoleon Bonaparte and H.R.H. the Count of Paris to!
I respect H.R.H. the Prince Joachim Murat and H.R.H. the Duke of Castro to!
Thank you!
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Robert_Hall on August 24, 2008, 09:09:27 PM
Lisa, I agree wholeheartedly with you. No problem at all.  I post very rarely on ATR for  the exact reasons  stated by  another poster. Just thought it might be fun to see the reaction. If there  even is one. Makes no difference to me.  I am fairly positive this kid is a fraud.
 Now, the Greek Who is Who is hardly Burke's,  the Almanach de Gotha or GHDA, is it? And those are only 3 of the several other resources, some  pretty obscure, that I have  at hand. The Greek Who is Who might as well be in Swahili for all it's worth as a resource.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: LisaDavidson on August 25, 2008, 01:48:36 AM
Robert, thanks so much. I think we are on the same page.

Mr. Karlov, you have now stated your opinion that this man is a "Serbian Grand Duke". You are entitled to your opinion. Now, unless you have some proof from genealogists, that's enough.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Robert_Hall on August 25, 2008, 03:08:00 PM
Interestingly, I did recieve a couple of responses, sane ones for a refreshing change for them, and  the prospects do not look too  bright  for the lad. Anyone really interested in this topic can see them at ATR, which probably a better place for it anyway. Unless Lisa wishes to move this to Having Fun!
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Ilias_of_John on August 25, 2008, 09:13:24 PM
Lisa, just lock the topic if you can.
Claims have been made but never substantiated,and seeing that CP Alexander II is the true and recognized heir,we need not seriously continue with this charlatan.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Robert_Hall on August 25, 2008, 10:15:19 PM
I have no real objection to that, either. The Serbian "Empire exsisted only from 1346 to 1371, And I personally found no link  with that past and anyone- ANYONE present.  Just nother pretty fantasy.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Justine on August 26, 2008, 07:29:09 AM
I don't know whether it should belong to this thread but could someone tell me who is on that Icon (http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/Tatiana_Romanov/ikona.png)(sorry for the quality)?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 26, 2008, 08:01:29 AM
The posture reminds me of St. George killing a dragon, but I don´t know.... maybe we need help from someone who´s Orthodox :)
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: Norbert on August 26, 2008, 08:48:06 AM
This is madness. Consider the names that the people use on this site... Princess this and Grand Duke Emperor that. He is just a a fantasist, rather like the bazaar Frenchman who calls himself Prince Michael of Scotland
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: nena on August 26, 2008, 10:17:58 AM
Yes, it is icon of St. George killing dragon.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on August 26, 2008, 12:35:22 PM
Re:  Subject of icon:  I am certainly not any expert in this field, but in my opinion, though the visial quality is not sharp, I really do not see a dragon (as associated with Saint George).  Aren't  traditional representations of Saint Demitrius (St. James) shown in a similiar depiction, but with a "human" figure being speared (rather than a dragon)?  There IS a mounted warrior-type figure shown here in that position on the "receiving end" of the saint's charge.  The billowing red at the saint's foot is perhaps a cloak, landscape object,etc. of/near the lower mounted figure, but does not suggest to me dragon's coils.  If it WERE a dragon (thence St. George), obviously the dragon would be more prominent.  I believe in Russia, this Saint Demitrius would be referred to as "of Saloniki."   Regards, AP.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Justine on August 26, 2008, 01:05:55 PM
thanks for help :)

I think it's not St. George as in this icon(though perhaps not very visible on the photo) there's no dragon but human on white horse, so then it would be Saint Demitrius.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: nena on August 26, 2008, 01:41:05 PM
Oh really! It can be St. Demitrius then.!  ;) He was warrior at Solune, Greece. Probably the icon shows he beating with anoher one warrior...... ;)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on August 26, 2008, 02:00:31 PM
Hello!   I believe in Serbia, he is known as "Mitar."       Regards,  AP.
Title: Re: who is that Serbian Grand Duke ?
Post by: LisaDavidson on August 26, 2008, 02:19:06 PM
Can unlock after the move.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: nena on August 26, 2008, 03:36:03 PM
Hello!   I believe in Serbia, he is known as "Mitar."       Regards,  AP.
Yes---or Dmitar, or Dimitrije......
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Marie-Catherine on September 20, 2008, 11:56:17 AM
Sorry, but I was looking in Beinecke albums, and I found this picture : (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/th_1002241.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j189/4tre/1002241.jpg)

. I don't know, but to me, the girl at the back of the car really looks like Olga N. Could this be her ?
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 20, 2008, 11:58:14 AM
Yes, that is Olga.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Marie-Catherine on September 20, 2008, 12:02:34 PM
Thank you ! I wasn't really sure :)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: nena on September 21, 2008, 07:07:38 AM
I love her smile!  ;)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Holly on September 21, 2008, 08:15:34 AM
Me, too! Haha.
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Alexandre64 on September 22, 2008, 10:31:22 AM
Does not someone who is this woman:
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Romanov%20Jewel/RussWedd1.jpg)
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: LenelorMiksi on October 10, 2008, 07:01:41 PM
That's Mavra- Grand Duchess Elizabeth Mavrikievna, Princess of Saxe-Altenburg, Konstantine Konstantivovich's wife (KR).
Title: Re: Identification
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 10, 2008, 09:20:42 PM
Yup, she s  Mavra, one of the few Romanov brides photographed
Title: Subtitles - need Help
Post by: Imperial_Grounds on March 02, 2009, 04:30:06 PM
Hello all,

I am subtitling the movie 'Last Days of the Last Tsar', which can be found on Frozen Tears in English, since I found the Russian version - in HQ, and it does seem to have a bit more voice overs, thus with my limited knowledge of Russian I can't figure out what it means.

Anyway,

here is the link to the part I don't understand:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/usmj79

I do understand the last part, that the(Rasputin) was hated by the Court and military, but what is said before that is a mystery to me.

Here is link to the torrent:
http://torrents.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1474237

If anyone is able to help, it is appreciated
Title: Re: Subtitles - need Help
Post by: violetta on March 03, 2009, 06:10:17 AM
Hello, I will help you today, in the eveniing when I`m back home. here, in poland, is 1:20 p m. so please wait a couple more hours.
Title: Re: Subtitles - need Help
Post by: Imperial_Grounds on March 03, 2009, 09:29:48 AM
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Subtitles - need Help
Post by: violetta on March 03, 2009, 01:12:46 PM
the part that you don`t understand

TZARINA`S CLOSEST FRIEND. FOR THE SAKE OF HER SON`S HEALTH SHE WAS READY TO CRAWL AT THE FEET OF THIS DARK BEAST , KISS HIS HANDS AND BOOTS.HATED BY THE COURT AND THE ARMY,MURDERED BY THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE PLOT,POISONED, SHOT, THROWN UNDER THE ICE.
Title: Re: Subtitles - need Help
Post by: violetta on March 03, 2009, 01:51:26 PM
I hope this will help. Is this all that you needed to translate?
Title: Re: Subtitles - need Help
Post by: Imperial_Grounds on March 03, 2009, 01:55:17 PM
For now, yes. Thank you.

If I need more I'll post it on here,

thanks again
Title: Looking for pics of the IF children bald.
Post by: rosieposie on June 02, 2009, 01:22:29 AM
I know they are scattered around here, but since I am in the city and can only go on the internet for a limited time before going home in two weeks.   Just wondering if some people can post pics or links of the IF children bald.   :)  I have the pic of the 5 in the nursery face on, not behind.  Any would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Looking for pics of the IF children bald.
Post by: Grand Duchess Ferah on June 02, 2009, 02:19:44 AM
Anastasia, Olga, Alexei, Maria  & Tatiana:
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss332/Romanovy_AP_album/otmaa1917_1.jpg) (http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss332/Romanovy_AP_album/otmaa1917_1.jpg)

Tatiana 's hair has only just started to grow in this one:
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss332/Romanovy_AP_album/tatianabald.jpg) (http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss332/Romanovy_AP_album/tatianabald.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for pics of the IF children bald.
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on June 02, 2009, 03:48:02 AM
There are tons more, I just don't have them organized.

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/5113/maria1917.th.jpg) (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maria1917.jpg)
(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1515/aoatmcarskoselo1917s.th.jpg) (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aoatmcarskoselo1917s.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for pics of the IF children bald.
Post by: Tina Laroche on June 02, 2009, 04:33:42 AM
... I just don't have them organized. ...

You're not the only one *sigh*.

~~~~~~~~~

OTMA, taken by Gilliard in Tsarskoe Selo after June 1917, if I'm not mistaking...

(http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/OTMAA/th_OTMAheadsshaved.jpg) (http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/OTMAA/OTMAheadsshaved.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for pics of the IF children bald.
Post by: Sarushka on June 02, 2009, 07:12:25 AM
Nicholas and Anastasia:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Arrest%20and%20Exile/th_nickyana1917_2.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Arrest%20and%20Exile/?action=view&current=nickyana1917_2.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Arrest%20and%20Exile/th_nickyana1917_3.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Arrest%20and%20Exile/?action=view&current=nickyana1917_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for pics of the IF children bald.
Post by: Sarushka on June 02, 2009, 07:15:30 AM
Tatiana and Anastasia:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Arrest%20and%20Exile/th_tatsoldieranabald1917_2.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Arrest%20and%20Exile/?action=view&current=tatsoldieranabald1917_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for pics of the IF children bald.
Post by: nena on June 02, 2009, 09:26:31 AM
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Zarobljenistvo/th_3cf2d862.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Zarobljenistvo/?action=view&current=3cf2d862.jpg)(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Zarobljenistvo/th_RA8-Vk24.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Zarobljenistvo/?action=view&current=RA8-Vk24.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for pics of the IF children bald.
Post by: rosieposie on June 04, 2009, 01:56:21 AM
Awww thanks guys.  I am giving  you a virtual hug.  :) 
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Tsarevich Alexei fan13 on December 02, 2010, 01:05:04 PM
Hi Everyone
I have here three pages of Alexei's diary and letters in Russian from the book Tsesarevich. If anyone here knows Russian could you please translate them for me.
Thank you!
Stephen.
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae193/Romanovfan/Scan_10.jpg?t=1291317108
http://s971.photobucket.com/albums/ae193/Romanovfan/?action=view&current=Scan_11.jpg
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae193/Romanovfan/Scan_5.jpg?t=1291317159
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: EmmyLee on January 26, 2011, 02:22:42 PM
I have searched everywhere for the rest of the pictures that go with this one:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/th_column.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/?action=view&current=column.jpg)

I even looked to see if there was a user here whose name is Francis but no match. Does anyone know where the thread went that has these beautiful pictures?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on January 26, 2011, 03:04:08 PM
Francis? Where did you get that from? I don't see any Francis on the photo...Lovely picture, sorry I can't help you!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: EmmyLee on January 26, 2011, 04:35:30 PM
It's in the top right of the picture.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on January 26, 2011, 04:42:58 PM
Oh, I see now! I didn't look hard enough!
You could try searching "columns" in the search box.  :)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: mishaxenia on June 26, 2011, 04:36:13 PM
I would like your help to translate this writing Russian. is a picture of Saint John of Kronstadt  of 1899 ( Kiev ?) . I would understand if it was written by father John for someone or written by another person.  Thanks for the help.

(http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/45578/2340687750105221653S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2340687750105221653mJkaWr)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on June 27, 2011, 02:03:33 AM
OMG i simply don't understand the hand writing... O_o
i'll try to do what i can.
The first two words above, in a simpler handwriting = Za blagoslovenje   =litt "For a blessing", can translate "Bles you"
The date says "Kiev, 4/11 (= 4 november. I point it out because i know in USA you are used to put the month before the day, but in Russia they use the european way i.g. DAY - MONTH - YEAR)

i just can't understand any further because of the handwriting, but i hope i helped you a bit.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: mishaxenia on June 27, 2011, 04:55:37 AM
thanks, maybe someone has donated an image of father John  "For a blessing". on line  I have not found the writings of St. John to make a comparison.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on June 27, 2011, 06:33:23 AM
Hi Everyone
I have here three pages of Alexei's diary and letters in Russian from the book Tsesarevich. If anyone here knows Russian could you please translate them for me.
Thank you!
Stephen.

I've done the last page, i think it's the first chronologically

PAG 125 scan 5

28th march
Got up early. I studied and strolled. Had breakfast with Mama and sisters.
During the day walked and [litt: i rode. But this verb can be used for any means of transport. I guess he intends he rode his bike. I'm not sure, but i assumed it, i'm sorry if it's a mistake]. Went to Mama for tea and supper.
Supped at 6 o'clock. Went to bed early.

29th march
I got up as always. I studied and strolled. Had breakfast with parents [litt: with mine = my parents] and Isa [Buxhoevedn, i think]. Strolled and drove a little car [litt: a little engine, i suppose it's a sort of toy car for children?]. Lessons. Supper at 6. Studied for lessons [litt: "I prepared lessons" in russian means study for an exam or something].
Went to Mama for supper. Went to bed early.

30th March
Got up at half past 9. Studied and strolled. Had breakfast with Mama, OTMA and Trina [= Catherine Schneider, i suppose]. During the day rode bike and strolled. Supper with Mama. Supper with aunt Mavra [note says Elisaveta, wife of Grand Duke Konstantin Konstantinovich]
Went to bed early.

31st March
Woke up at half past nine. I studied and strolled. Had breakfast with M[arija] and A[nastasija]. During the day strolled and rode bike. Mama, O[l'ga] and T[at'jana] in town. Went to Mama for supper. Went to bed early (while) Mama, O. And T. Were in town.

1st april
Got up early. Studied and strolled. Had breakfast with Mama and OTMA. During the day strolled and rode bike. Supper at 6. supper with Mama. Went to bed early.

2nd april
Got up at half past nine. Studied and strolled. Had breakfast with Mama and OTMA. During the day strolled and rode bike. Supper at 6. supper with Mama. Went to bed early. Went to Mass.

3rd April  (from here it's not clear the first letters because of the scan: i try to understand anyway)
Strolled, went to Mass. Old aunt Ol'ga [and] Christophor [the note says: wife and son of the King of Hellenes] had breakfast with us.  During the day strolled and rode bike. Went to Mama for tea, Dmitrij too [Dmitrij Pavlovich]. Supepr at 6. Rode bike. Had supper with Mama. Went to bed as usual.
4th April
Got up early. Studied and strolled. Had breakfast with Mama and OTMA. During the day strolled and went to Mass. Went to Mama for supper. Supper at 6. went to bed early.


I guess it was Easter time, they go to Mess so often. Which year is it?
I'll do the other this evening.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on June 27, 2011, 08:11:09 AM
I guess it was Easter time, they go to Mess so often. Which year is it?

The diary in Tsesarevich is from 1916.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on June 27, 2011, 10:33:09 AM
Oh thanks Sarah, it was written but i was so concentrated on the diary entries to translate i didn't notice.

Tsarevich Alexei, i can't read pag 177 well enough to translate. Is it possible for you a better scan to read the far right part of it? I have trouble to understand the first word of each line. If you can, i'll translate it too.
I've translated the only entry of page 178, however.

pag 178

24th December 1916
I got up late. After tea went for a walk. Had breakfast with my [parents and sisters].
During the day i rode my bike and played. I was at Kolja's [Kolja Derevenko, i suppose, Doc. Derevenko's son]. After supper i played. Went to Mama's. Went to bed early.



As you already know i'm not english mothertongue, so if my english is rough, i'm sorry; i hope you'll understand anyway. It was a bit hard work because it was a double translation for me (russian - italian and then italian - english) but i had so much fun doing it, also because Alexei is very concise and uses easy words, so it's not hard to understand at all. Thank you for the opportunity you gave me!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Tsarevich Alexei fan13 on June 27, 2011, 01:22:12 PM
Hi Sunny!
Thanks soooooooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know how to thank you! I unfortunately had to sell the book so I can't do a better scan of them.  I'm sorry about that!
But thanks again!!!!
God Bless,
Stephen.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on June 27, 2011, 01:32:30 PM
You're welcome Stephen!  :) It was really a pleasure for me. I'll try to understand something in that page, maybe i'll be able to!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on July 07, 2011, 06:18:07 AM
I hope this is the right thread. Otherwise... mods, help me please.

I have this photo labeled both as Anastasia AND as Maria. But i simply can't decide WHO really is.
Ideas?

http://nsm01.casimages.com/img/2008/12/07/081207113525295612844541.jpg (http://nsm01.casimages.com/img/2008/12/07/081207113525295612844541.jpg)

I think it's more likely Maria, but...
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: larri* on July 07, 2011, 07:15:10 AM
I hope this is the right thread. Otherwise... mods, help me please.

I have this photo labeled both as Anastasia AND as Maria. But i simply can't decide WHO really is.
Ideas?

http://nsm01.casimages.com/img/2008/12/07/081207113525295612844541.jpg (http://nsm01.casimages.com/img/2008/12/07/081207113525295612844541.jpg)

I think it's more likely Maria, but...

The girl is Maria. Here you have a close-up of her face where you can see it a bit clearer, although the quality is not the best:
(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9489/1911camashka.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/607/1911camashka.jpg/)

Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Gorseheart on July 12, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
Can anyone tell me what movie this is from? It can't be real, although it looks old, but I doubt it.

(http://www.tsarevichalexei-page.com/end052.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Holly on July 12, 2011, 11:24:54 AM
Of course it's not real footage.

I know it's older but I can't remember the title of the film. Many parts of it are featured in the Russian documentary Revenge of the Romanovs.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Gorseheart on July 12, 2011, 11:58:04 AM
Thanks, some websites just can't be trusted. Na ja. Thanks again for clearing that up, I knew it!  C:
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Gorseheart on July 12, 2011, 01:10:51 PM
Hi! Sorry, I keep asking questions! But this was labeled as Alexei on a site and I saw it on one of his threads here, but honestly, it looks a little like Tatiana, Sorry for my ignorance!
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13900000/Alexei-the-romanovs-13984626-300-441.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: RHB on July 12, 2011, 02:34:34 PM
(Post 235} Docu-drama called Last Days of the Last Tsar... i believe! It looks like it to me anyhow!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on July 12, 2011, 03:46:35 PM
Re Post # 238:  It is absolutely the Heir.   Regards,  AP.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on July 13, 2011, 12:50:16 AM
The girl is Maria. Here you have a close-up of her face where you can see it a bit clearer, although the quality is not the best:

Thanks Larri! I was quite sure, but still! Thanks!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on July 14, 2011, 04:59:41 PM
Re Post # 238:  It is absolutely the Heir.   Regards,  AP.
I agree,and I am sure that it was taken during one of often performances that the IF made. 
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on July 14, 2011, 06:55:46 PM
Re Post # 242:  IMO, I believe that this photo (Post # 238) is from an apparent series of World War I era photos that feature the related screen/panelled/partitioned background and is mentioned in "Aleksei Photos III," Replies # 285 and 286."  It certainly does not seem to be a "palatial" location, and is most likely at Stavka, which of course would be relatively spartan in comparasion. Notice that the Heir is in a "nightshirt-like" garb ( #238 of this thread) and playing on his camp-bed ( # 283 of "Aleksei Photos III), apparently in "light-hearted" moments.  Conceivably, these photos were taken by his "room-mate," his father the Emperor.     Regards,  AP.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: pentetorri on August 14, 2011, 10:55:34 PM
I would really appreciate help translating this label which is in the back of a painting depicting a Russian church.  Thanks

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c70/Pentetorri/label.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on September 05, 2011, 05:43:53 AM
Does anyone have an idea about the year in which this pic was taken? I can't even recognize the girls for sure... are they really OTMA? I'm a bit astonished O_O

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/b6f2cf3db2ac.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/b6f2cf3db2ac.jpg/)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on September 05, 2011, 06:28:21 AM
I've seen the photo already, how about winter1908/9 at Tsarskoe Selo? Only my guess.:-)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on September 05, 2011, 07:53:08 AM
I can't even recognize the girls for sure... are they really OTMA? I'm a bit astonished O_O

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/b6f2cf3db2ac.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/b6f2cf3db2ac.jpg/)

Anastasia, Maria, Tatiana, Olga.

I think nena is right about the date. This photo may have come from one of the Yeltsin library albums, which I believe was dated to 1908.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on September 05, 2011, 11:41:23 AM
Thanks both of you! I recognized Anastasia but... she seemed to tall O_O
thank you guys!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on September 05, 2011, 08:32:21 PM
One of Alix's sisters is there, I believe Irene,  so had to be during a visit of hers. 1908  sounds right as they are slightly older than the playing on the deck film  of 1907 .  Sarushka  had the right OTMA order of course .... it was quite a family  studded occasion...., Sunshine Aunt and husband, Uncle Michale as well as Alix's sister were there. I wonder if Alix took this 
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on September 06, 2011, 02:43:02 AM
that's me again. Just to let you know... i'm tigy up my romanov pics, that's why i'm always here!
BTW: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/05a502a7e33b.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/05a502a7e33b.jpg/)
Nicholas, Aleksej, doctor Derevenko, an officer (?) and... Anastasia? She looks like her, the face and expression, and even pose, but why is her hair up?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Olgasha on September 06, 2011, 04:03:34 AM
One of Alix's sisters is there, I believe Irene,  so had to be during a visit of hers. 1908  sounds right as they are slightly older than the playing on the deck film  of 1907 .  Sarushka  had the right OTMA order of course .... it was quite a family  studded occasion...., Sunshine Aunt and husband, Uncle Michale as well as Alix's sister were there. I wonder if Alix took this 


In the picture are OTMA, their father, Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna with her husband Duke Pyotr Oldenburg and Grand Duke Michael Aleksandrovich. I can't recognize that woman next to him, but I wouldn't say it's Irene.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on September 06, 2011, 08:40:42 AM
that's me again. Just to let you know... i'm tigy up my romanov pics, that's why i'm always here!
BTW: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/05a502a7e33b.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/05a502a7e33b.jpg/)
Nicholas, Aleksej, doctor Derevenko, an officer (?) and... Anastasia? She looks like her, the face and expression, and even pose, but why is her hair up?

It's Maria. And the officer is Sablin.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on September 06, 2011, 08:49:13 AM
Because Maria started wearing her hair up in 1914, which is the date the photo was taken, in the early summer, I'd say. (At the some sites I found it labeled as 1915, Peterhof). I wonder about the place as well - was it Finland, Peterhof, or somewhere else?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on September 06, 2011, 09:31:49 AM
It's Maria. And the officer is Sablin.
Because Maria started wearing her hair up in 1914, which is the date the photo was taken, in the early summer, I'd say.

I later recognized Sablin, but i was pretty sure it was Anastasia... uhuh i was totally wrong! But stil i can't see Maria's face. I think I'd better look at it later, just to clearupmy mind!
Thanks both of you!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 06, 2011, 10:14:41 AM
One of Alix's sisters is there, I believe Irene,  so had to be during a visit of hers. 1908  sounds right as they are slightly older than the playing on the deck film  of 1907 .  Sarushka  had the right OTMA order of course .... it was quite a family  studded occasion...., Sunshine Aunt and husband, Uncle Michale as well as Alix's sister were there. I wonder if Alix took this 


You re right. Its Irene.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on September 06, 2011, 12:34:30 PM
One of Alix's sisters is there, I believe Irene,  so had to be during a visit of hers. 1908  sounds right as they are slightly older than the playing on the deck film  of 1907 .  Sarushka  had the right OTMA order of course .... it was quite a family  studded occasion...., Sunshine Aunt and husband, Uncle Michale as well as Alix's sister were there. I wonder if Alix took this 


You re right. Its Irene.

Annie, you're great. What a wonderful sight!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on September 06, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
Annie, you're great. What a wonderful sight!
Thanks Sunny! lol! Luckly Alix's sisters were all quite distinctive looking from each other!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on September 07, 2011, 12:41:41 PM
Me again... LOL
I was trying to guess the yesr for this picture. Then i had a doubt: was Alix in mourning? For whom?
Any ideas?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/24799698.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/24799698.jpg/)

Thanks you!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on September 07, 2011, 03:30:48 PM
Me again... LOL
I was trying to guess the yesr for this picture. Then i had a doubt: was Alix in mourning? For whom?
Any ideas?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/24799698.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/24799698.jpg/)

1908. It's in Beinecke album #5, page 40:
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1001311&iid=1001311&srchtype= (http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov/oneITEM.asp?pid=1001311&iid=1001311&srchtype=)

More photos of her in the same dress are on pgs 42-45.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on September 07, 2011, 03:41:30 PM
Thanks. I thought it was a black dress, so i was wondering wether she was in mourning. Thanks Sarah, as usual.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on September 07, 2011, 10:27:45 PM
Thanks. I thought it was a black dress, so i was wondering wether she was in mourning.

That I don't know. Some one with a broader knowledge of the Romanovs and European royalty -- like Svetabel, for example -- may be able to answer.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on September 08, 2011, 04:19:16 AM
If the dress was black, and the year was 1908, the Empress may have marked 30 years since her mother's death (1878-1908). My idea though. Is that possible?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on September 19, 2011, 03:07:52 PM
I'm looking for a big photo of OTMA, dated 1902-3 of the four girls in matching coats and fluffy hats in front of a palace. thank you. :)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on September 19, 2011, 03:34:22 PM
Ropsha Palace:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/OTMA/th_girliespalace.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/OTMA/?action=view&current=girliespalace.jpg)
(1903, IMO)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on September 19, 2011, 04:12:21 PM
thank you very much! :)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Talya on September 29, 2011, 12:07:01 AM
Me again... LOL
I was trying to guess the yesr for this picture. Then i had a doubt: was Alix in mourning? For whom?
Any ideas?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/24799698.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/24799698.jpg/)

Thanks you!

Just a note, this was taken in the Maple Room I believe. Check out the beautiful flowers above the doorway!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on September 29, 2011, 05:20:30 AM
I wonder if she's bending over a camera's view finder  to take a photo? ....Uncle Erine is there too
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on September 29, 2011, 09:15:47 AM
I wonder if she's bending over a camera's view finder  to take a photo? ....Uncle Erine is there too

In which photo?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on September 29, 2011, 03:54:56 PM
I wonder if she's bending over a camera's view finder  to take a photo? ....Uncle Erine is there too
In which photo?
good grief I must of meant this for another thread. There was a photo of the  back of one of OTMA ....and people said it  yes was Olga...around 1908... Ernie was in the foreground. Hosted on on Image stack...was something removed? Can't find it now of course :/
Title: Re: Looking for pics of the IF children bald.
Post by: pastpalacelife on December 18, 2011, 02:21:26 PM
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OTMA, taken by Gilliard in Tsarskoe Selo after June 1917, if I'm not mistaking...

This picture of the girls bald is, I assume, with the Alexander Palace in the background?  So, my question is about that big vase statue.  I don't see that vase in other pictures. Does anybody know where the vase went or if I've got my orientation to the palace wrong?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Gorseheart on January 15, 2012, 11:20:58 PM
This one?



... I just don't have them organized. ...

You're not the only one *sigh*.

~~~~~~~~~

OTMA, taken by Gilliard in Tsarskoe Selo after June 1917, if I'm not mistaking...

(http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/OTMAA/th_OTMAheadsshaved.jpg) (http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/OTMAA/OTMAheadsshaved.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on January 16, 2012, 06:17:37 AM
This one?



... I just don't have them organized. ...

You're not the only one *sigh*.

~~~~~~~~~

OTMA, taken by Gilliard in Tsarskoe Selo after June 1917, if I'm not mistaking...

(http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/OTMAA/th_OTMAheadsshaved.jpg) (http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/OTMAA/OTMAheadsshaved.jpg)

I was thinking also of another one, but in that there's Alexej too. Let me know if you need the other one.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on January 16, 2012, 12:41:42 PM
I was thinking also of another one, but in that there's Alexej too. Let me know if you need the other one.
....you mean the row of heads photo ? I don't know of another photo with all 5 children  bald
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on January 17, 2012, 07:27:06 AM
I was thinking also of another one, but in that there's Alexej too. Let me know if you need the other one.
....you mean the row of heads photo ? I don't know of another photo with all 5 children  bald

exactly that one!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: GrandDuchessIsabelle on January 20, 2012, 01:57:19 PM
This may be the wrong place to post, but I am looking for the photo set of the Wales princesses (Victoria, Louise and Maud) when they were little girls. Does anyone have these?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on February 12, 2012, 07:46:36 AM
Does anyone have the full version of this pic? I'm sure there was Alexej in it!

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2576/mariayy.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2576/mariayy.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2012, 08:15:17 AM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Abroad/th_wolfsgartenkids.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Abroad/?action=view&current=wolfsgartenkids.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on February 13, 2012, 01:10:07 PM
Terrific photo and size! Thank you for posting it! Is the third woman from the left, bending slightly over Eleanore, Ernie's wife or a lady in waiting?She's also  in photos of ON and Anastasia walking on a road during this time. Also  the first lady  has to be thier cousin Louise, Alix's sister Victoria's daughter and  future Queen of Sweden.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sunny on February 13, 2012, 02:34:10 PM
Thanks very much, Sarah! Wonderful size&quality indeed!

Terrific photo and size! Thank you for posting it! Is the third woman from the left, bending slightly over Eleanore, Ernie's wife or a lady in waiting?She's also  in photos of ON and Anastasia walking on a road during this time. Also  the first lady  has to be thier cousin Louise, Alix's sister Victoria's daughter and  future Queen of Sweden.

I'm curious to know it too!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Stasie on March 16, 2012, 09:30:57 AM
Who are the two little girls with Maria and Anastasia?
http://historybyerin.tumblr.com/post/19357784407#notes (http://historybyerin.tumblr.com/post/19357784407#notes)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on March 16, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Princesses Margarita and Theodora of Greece and Denmark, daughters of Maria and Anastasia's first cousin Princess Alice of Battenberg (daughter of the Empress' eldest sister Victoria) and her husband Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark. they're also elder sisters of the Duke of Edinburgh (Prince Philip).
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Stasie on March 16, 2012, 10:58:05 AM
Princesses Margarita and Theodora of Greece and Denmark, daughters of Maria and Anastasia's first cousin Princess Alice of Battenberg (daughter of the Empress' eldest sister Victoria) and her husband Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark. they're also elder sisters of the Duke of Edinburgh (Prince Philip).
Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on March 24, 2012, 11:52:34 PM
no prob ;)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: cebi26 on July 05, 2012, 03:51:17 PM
Anyone knows who are  the children with the Imperial Children in those photos? :

http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/galleries/435/ron-289.jpg
http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/galleries/435/ron-279.jpg
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on July 05, 2012, 03:56:39 PM
1st one, is in 1907-8, with Grand Duchess Xenia's kids, about five of them there including her daughter Irina. Xenia had seven kids, 1 girl Irina and six boys- Andrei, Fyodore, Nikita, Dmtiri, Rostislav and Vassil.

2nd one with Louis of Battenberg known to the family as "Dickie", later Lord Mountbatten, Earl of Burma. son of Alix's sister Victoria.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: cebi26 on July 06, 2012, 12:28:23 PM
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Duchess Hydrangea on September 10, 2012, 09:50:13 PM
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1948/dmitripicnic.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/dmitripicnic.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us) in the very back, is that Gavril Konstantinovich?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: mishaxenia on September 15, 2012, 05:12:23 PM
Hi, help me with the correct translation of those words? are written on an icon painted by prince Putiatin.
If I'm not mistaken means blagoslovenje   blessing
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/50263/2667416740105221653S600x600Q85.jpg
I do not understand the second part
http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/50081/2011700600105221653S600x600Q85.jpg
written at the bottom of icon
http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/50020/2651844700105221653S600x600Q85.jpg
Thanks !!!!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Antonina on October 04, 2012, 01:53:41 AM
 Hi mishaxenia,
Yes, благословение родителей (blessing from parents). 19(?)8.
At the bottom (the Church Slavonic language): "Святая Икона сия письма Князя Михаила ???'' - "This Holy Icon is painted by Prince Michail (patronymic)". I hope I will read the last word if you will make a bigger foto))
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: mishaxenia on October 04, 2012, 03:19:01 PM
Hi mishaxenia,
Yes, благословение родителей (blessing from parents). 19(?)8.
At the bottom (the Church Slavonic language): "Святая Икона сия письма Князя Михаила ???'' - "This Holy Icon is painted by Prince Michail (patronymic)". I hope I will read the last word if you will make a bigger foto))
Hi ,Antonina  thank you very much, now it is possible "to complete" the history of the icon. Bye Misha
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Dru on October 29, 2012, 10:40:51 AM
Can anyone help me translate this correctly?  It's a stanza from a poem by Zhukovsky, and I'm having a little trouble with the syntax...

"Увидел я царевну молодую,

Невесту севера; и на меня

Она глаза склонила мимоходом:

И скрылось все..."

Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on October 29, 2012, 10:54:51 AM
"I saw a young princess,

Bride of the North, and for me

She lowered her eyes in passing:

And all disappeared ... "
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on October 30, 2012, 12:41:26 AM
Wonderful poem!

does someone have a nice file of the OTMA  mushroom picking photo , where Olga is leanding on a birch  tree with arms crossed and  smiling? A  friend needs it for a project. Thanks!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Ortipo on October 30, 2012, 12:24:47 PM
тяв!

1024 X 1007 here ---> http://oi47.tinypic.com/s6u9hx.jpg
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Dru on October 30, 2012, 01:53:21 PM
Thanks for your help with the poem, Mandie!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on October 30, 2012, 04:20:56 PM
no prob :)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on October 31, 2012, 01:56:19 AM
тяв!

1024 X 1007 here ---> http://oi47.tinypic.com/s6u9hx.jpg

Gasp  !Thank you!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Antonina on November 17, 2012, 02:29:17 AM
Does anybody know who is this woman with Alexei?
(http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/1207/46/ac8b7bd4821a.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on November 17, 2012, 10:55:59 PM
I wonder if it's a lady in waiting I've seen with the big pair at the hospital...

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_olgacheckers.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/olgacheckers.jpg)

which still doesn't answer who it is sadly
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Antonina on November 22, 2012, 09:28:19 AM
Thank you! Doesn't she look like the №6 here? What do you think?
(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/saltkrakan/18923016/4896/4896_original.jpg)
On this photo it is Varvara Afanasievna Vilchkovskaya - famous Bibi, nurse, GD's friend and general's wife.

I asked because the Yandex finder gave me this picture when I was looking for my own articles... Someone wrote in blog that this woman with Alexei is "his nanny Antonina Vorontsova". It's my name. I thought I was going crazy O_o
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on November 23, 2012, 12:13:40 AM
it does look like her and it makes sense she would be about helping ...

I think she's here with Dr. Botkin and Rita, on the right in the back


(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_hospitalgrourp3.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/hospitalgrourp3.jpg)


Also  could  it be TN's favorite Vladimir Kiknadze on the right in front ?

plus on the left ,one see the Princess without her usual cap and she is quite good looking in her way

Oh  you have the same name! No wonder you were momentarily confused! lol
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Antonina on November 23, 2012, 11:33:00 PM
Yes, it is she. And you have correctly identificated duchess Gedroits I think.
There is my Shakh-Bagov here (at the center), but I never thought there is Kiknadze here, too... May be, but  unlikely: it looks like a summer, and he was in hospital twice and both of times in autumn.
No, if she is Varvara Vilchkovskaya, she is not my namesake, and I wonder why somebody decided that Alexei had a nanny named Antonina!
Title: Hospital photos.
Post by: Martin 22 on December 10, 2012, 04:08:12 AM
Amazing pictures! Thanks for posting!! All new to me!
WHERE did you discover theM?!!?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on December 11, 2012, 10:03:39 AM
I don't think that is Shakh-Bagov...I believe that is a fellow who lost his leg and of course I can't find the photos  right now to show who I mean...but  the here the  man has a crutch  ( under his right arm) . He's also the one sitting with Alix in the crochet photos...has a large heel boot. Also in the photo of Alix sitting at the bedside of  young boy 


Martin 22 ,  photos found mostly on the web!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Antonina on December 12, 2012, 10:15:45 PM
Oh, what a hassle is the identification of wounded soliders!)) Yes I see the crutch... And I know what guy do you mean:
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/saltkrakan/18923016/2444/2444_original.png
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/saltkrakan/18923016/6520/6520_original.jpg

I thought it was Mitia on this photo because he is staying near to a bald officer who accompanies him on many photos. And he was wounded in a leg. But I'm ready to agree with you))
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on December 12, 2012, 11:14:16 PM
Oh, what a hassle is the identification of wounded soldiers!)) Yes I see the crutch... And I know what guy do you mean:
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/saltkrakan/18923016/2444/2444_original.png
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/saltkrakan/18923016/6520/6520_original.jpg

I thought it was Mitia on this photo because he is staying near to a bald officer who accompanies him on many photos. And he was wounded in a leg. But I'm ready to agree with you))


You are a marvel because those are just the photos I was talking about!  Thank you!
The Russian blog these photos  were posted on seems to be closed now, yet the photos are still on the web! =)
Looking at a person's hair helps to identify them. This man has his part down the middle
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Dru on February 19, 2013, 01:34:59 PM
I seek the help of a fluent Russian speaker to translate a poem by Pushkin, called "The Rose;" I have scoured the web and can find nothing.  I believe it was written in 1815 and later became the lyrics to a musical composition by Mikhail Glinka called "Where is Our Rose."  I would be very, very grateful for an accurate translation: 

Где наша роза?

Друзья мои!

Увяла роза,

Дитя зари!...

Не говори:

Вот жизни младость,

Не повтори:

Так вянет радость,

В душе скажи:

Прости! жалею.....

И на лилею

Нам укажи.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Antonina on April 28, 2013, 10:37:42 PM
Dru,
Where is our rose?
My friends!
The rose, daybreak's child,
Has faded.
Don't say:
Here is the youth of life.
Don't repeat:
So withers the joy.
Say at your heart:
Farewell! I'm sorry...
And  indicate us
A lily.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Dru on April 29, 2013, 08:07:11 PM
Thank you so much for your response, Antonina! :) 
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: mishaxenia on August 13, 2013, 08:13:30 AM
Hi, I would like your help to this writing. is the back of a photo of the GD  Kyrill and Boris as children. I think it is in German, in Ludwigslust 1879
I only read the names, perhaps August Württemberg ?  and   prince  ??  von preussen .
in 1879 was the marriage of the GD Anastasia Mikhailovna, maybe there is a connection with the event.
Thanks

http://imageshack.us/a/img22/5631/zvs7.jpg
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Antonina on September 05, 2013, 10:30:22 AM
(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/saltkrakan/18923016/73389/73389_600.jpg)

Can you say please what year it is?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on September 05, 2013, 11:42:43 AM
Hm, I have seen it labeled it as '1915', which is most likely true. I can tell by GD Maria Nicholaievna's mature face, and 1914 is too early, IMO.

Wait. Was this one taken at the same day :

http://www.livadia.org/olishka/images/otmacamera.jpg

IMO, it was taken at Peterhof, from what I have learnt. Or even at Crimea in 1914.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: matushka on September 05, 2013, 12:05:41 PM
It is may 1914 (I think the 26th of may), in the Crimea. A trip they had. There are plenty of pictures of that day.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Antonina on September 05, 2013, 10:22:26 PM
Great, matushka! Thank you. It seems to one my friend that a man near Maria (with a cane) is Demenkov. So, is  it possible?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: mishaxenia on September 09, 2013, 03:15:29 PM
a new image of the Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger or similarity ?

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/1881/1v45.jpg
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Holly on September 09, 2013, 04:00:56 PM
I would say it is Maria Pavlovna, although I am not exactly an expert on her.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: otmafan on September 09, 2013, 04:36:05 PM
Definitely Maria Pavlovna! Gorgeous!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Bryndis on September 11, 2013, 05:28:18 PM

What house is this? Is it in the Crimea?

(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Bryndis3/maria_zps07cbf3a3.jpg) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/Bryndis3/media/maria_zps07cbf3a3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Rodney_G. on September 11, 2013, 06:07:56 PM
I couldn't tell you what house it is, but I'm quite sure it's the Crimea. But I must ask, Bryndis, how would you happen to come across the photo of the house on the left, and how, other than by great  memory , would you tie it to the Grand Duchess in the right hand photo? Other than by the distinctive swan fountain, I mean?

Very sharp on your part, I must say.

And is that Anastasia or Marie there? I initially thought Anastasia, but now I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Bryndis on September 11, 2013, 08:37:33 PM
Well! I've been doing a lot of "Now and then" photos lately.
I came across this house while I was browsing the Beinecke albums and wanted to know more about it, where it was and if it still exists or not.
I'm not sure what you're asking by that second question....I thought it was the same swan :/
I thought it was Maria...I might be wrong...the photo was in my 'Maria' folder....doesn't prove anything though.


I've also been wondering if this is the same fountain. They look like they're dressed for the Crimea.

(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Bryndis3/1914playingcrimea_zps00d8b1e3.jpg) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/Bryndis3/media/1914playingcrimea_zps00d8b1e3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Katya_C on September 11, 2013, 10:54:40 PM
Well! I've been doing a lot of "Now and then" photos lately.
I came across this house while I was browsing the Beinecke albums and wanted to know more about it, where it was and if it still exists or not.
I'm not sure what you're asking by that second question....I thought it was the same swan :/
I thought it was Maria...I might be wrong...the photo was in my 'Maria' folder....doesn't prove anything though.


I've also been wondering if this is the same fountain. They look like they're dressed for the Crimea.

(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Bryndis3/1914playingcrimea_zps00d8b1e3.jpg) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/Bryndis3/media/1914playingcrimea_zps00d8b1e3.jpg.html)

That's Emperor Nicholas II's little hunting cabin in Kozmodemyansk, Russia. Two photos of him sitting on the balcony of the cabin can be seen in Beinecke's album #3, page 13 photo's #1000098 & 1000100. The title of the collection of photos is "A trip to Kazmandemiansk - The Emperor's little hunting cabin. 1914-15, Kozmodemyansk, Russia." And yes, IMHO, that is the same fountain, take a look at photo #1000104 on the same page in Beinecke and you can see the Grand Duchesses dress is identical (I don't know if that's Maria).

Katya
 
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on September 12, 2013, 01:33:25 PM
Correct -- those were most probably taken on May 23rd or May 26th 1914, when Nicholas' diary mentions that he (Emperor) visited the Kozmodemyanskii's Convent with his daughters in the mountains of Crimea. It was one warm spring day.

P.S. Bryndis, you have an excellent eye, I dare to notice. :-)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on September 12, 2013, 07:35:25 PM
It's Maria.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on October 30, 2013, 01:34:43 PM
So I've been trying to put a name to a face for a while now, but every single time I look at the photo I see a different girl. So, which Grand Duchess is this? My first thought was Maria, but then the more I looked I saw Olga and when I opened it today I even saw Anastasia!

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/125/956/8cd649fc5b_95741201_o2.png)

Also if you've got a year, location etc I would appreciate it! : )
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: KarinK on October 30, 2013, 02:27:48 PM
It's Maria. I believe the photo was dated 1913 in an article but I doubted that because Maria's hair seems to be up and now I'm pretty sure they got it wrong because there's a shot of this same group from a different angle among the coloured wartime photos. So it must be 1915-1916. I don't know the location, but just as a guess, it looks pretty similar to some photos I have of Maria, Anastasia and Alexei that were described as having been taken at Peterhof.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: matushka on October 30, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
Seems to be Maria in Peterhof, 1915. Maria or Anastasia, I have suddenly a doubt.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: matushka on October 30, 2013, 03:28:39 PM
I have found the right day in Nicolas's diary. 5 July 1915. Here is the entry in russian:
Очень жаркий день. Были у обедни. Завтракал Н. П. Саблин (деж.). В 1.45 поехал с ним, Алексеем, Мари и Анастасией в Ропшу. Погуляли в саду и осмотрели дворец. Затем поехали в Петергоф. С какою радостью все мы увидели море! Погулял по Александрии и выкупался в море — в воде 19°. Алексей катался в двойке. Прошло два ливня, пока пили молоко и ели фрукты в нашем доме. Обошел все комнаты. В 6.20 уехали в Царское Село, куда прибыли в 7 час.

"Very hot day. Attended the liturgy. N.P. Sablin had lunch. At 1.45pm I went with him, Alexei, Marie and Anastasia to Ropcha (Antonina posted a picture yesterday). We walked in the garden and visited the palace. Then we went to Peterhof. What a joyce to see the sea! We walked in Alexandria and I bathed in the sea, the water had 19°. Alexei took a cannot. It rained twice when we were drinking milk and eating fruits in our house. Walked in all rooms. At 6.20 we went back to Tsarskoe Selo. Were there at 7 o'clock."
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on October 30, 2013, 06:38:35 PM
I'm guessing with the wider face and the hair being up that it is most likely Maria then?

Thank you for that diary entry matushka : D gives even further insight into what they were doing that day and such.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on October 30, 2013, 10:17:08 PM
It's Maria. (The skirt length eliminates Anastasia.)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 30, 2013, 11:29:31 PM
Its Maria, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on November 01, 2013, 02:12:18 PM
I also think it's Maria. For a comparasion, on Sarushka's post about long/short dress:

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_61016037_1277984496_43111or315_zps80addbfb.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/61016037_1277984496_43111or315_zps80addbfb.jpg.html)
(Tsar, Tsarevich, GDes Maria and Anastasia, Sablin, and the two Derevenko's were present also.)

I do have a question about this one:

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_i400_zpsd74c8da2.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/i400_zpsd74c8da2.jpg.html)

(Also labeled to have been taken at Peterhof in 1915 -- why was Aleksei wearing dark suit? (In the 1st one, his shirt is white) Is that because -- they stayed at Peterhof for several days or simply boy had changed his clothes?)

Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on November 01, 2013, 11:21:27 PM
I believe they went a few times to Peterhof in 1915  on  day trips, drive out for the day ...and so AN is dressed differently in different photos. . I have also seen photos where the girls are dressed in the red polka dot dresses too...so a number of out fits for both in photos

 The sad thing about  these photos is  they seem like tourists to their own  past lives
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: KarinK on November 13, 2013, 10:11:25 AM
The book King, Kaiser, Tsar includes a photo I've never seen online yet of Nicholas, Anastasia and Nicholas Nikolaevich at Livadia in the early 1910s. Would anyone here happen to have it?

I have a lot of Alexandra photos that I haven't been able to date. Picking a few of my favourites from that folder, could anyone help me with guessing the years of these photos?

(http://i.imgur.com/f1U7G6H.jpg) (http://imgur.com/f1U7G6H) (http://i.imgur.com/6QWkYZt.jpg) (http://imgur.com/6QWkYZt)
(http://i.imgur.com/uNTowCQ.jpg) (http://imgur.com/uNTowCQ)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 18, 2013, 02:43:07 AM
http://i019.radikal.ru/0909/d4/e62f5efea9e3.jpg

Maria?

Also, if you have a year I'd appreciate it! :)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on November 18, 2013, 03:12:59 PM
http://i019.radikal.ru/0909/d4/e62f5efea9e3.jpg

Maria?

Also, if you have a year I'd appreciate it! :)

Yes, I believe it is Maria. The year was 1914, and IMHO,it was taken at Finland, by judging the type of the trees in the photo. By the way, your banner is awesome!

I have a lot of Alexandra photos that I haven't been able to date.

Same here. I was never able to identify a year on reagrding the Empress' photos. Could the 1st one be taken in 1912/3...? And the last one in 1910? My best guess, but I could be very wrong.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 18, 2013, 03:26:56 PM
Wouldn't it have to be at least 1915 since her hair is up? And is that the rumored gap between her teeth I see there? Hmm...
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on November 18, 2013, 03:38:26 PM
Maria started wearing her hair up even in spring/early summer of 1914, not in 1915 as it was supposed earlier.

See:

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_89465150_mnr_june1914st_zps23247f51.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/89465150_mnr_june1914st_zps23247f51.jpg.html)
(June 1914)

Same date, spring/early summer 1914:
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_TNsmiling.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/TNsmiling.jpg)

That photo you posted, GD Kassy, was taken in Finland, and in 1915 the IF didn't cruise there, because of the war. Even NII visited Helsinki (Finland) in 1915, but his family did not, according to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 18, 2013, 04:16:32 PM
Everything I know is wrong >.<

Thank you for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on November 18, 2013, 04:43:37 PM
Everything I know is wrong >.<

Thank you for pointing that out.

Haha, no worries, even now I have many doubts on some information I have/know about the IF, like anyone...The typical example is the wrong caption in 'Anastasia's album' on the photos taken 'at the beach in Peterhof in summer of 1915' while actuaclly those were taken in South Crimea in May of 1916. You're welcome. Glad to be helpful.

A man learns troughout his life, evry day. Keep that n mind.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Dru on November 18, 2013, 05:04:42 PM
Everything I know is wrong >.<

Thank you for pointing that out.

Actually, I think you know quite a lot.  Even the most knowledgeable among us get stuff wrong sometimes ;)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: KarinK on November 19, 2013, 05:20:52 AM
http://i019.radikal.ru/0909/d4/e62f5efea9e3.jpg

Maria?

Also, if you have a year I'd appreciate it! :)

Olga, Tatiana and Maria can look so alike in those dresses that I really can't be sure, but I think this girl looks most like Maria. But there are other photos where Tatiana is holding the cane seen in this picture and Maria is holding a camera, so the girl might be Tatiana and Maria was the photographer. Judging by Tatiana's hair, I'd say these photos were from late summer 1914. I wish there was an answer for the little mystery of why Maria got to put her hair up early!

Same here. I was never able to identify a year on reagrding the Empress' photos. Could the 1st one be taken in 1912/3...? And the last one in 1910? My best guess, but I could be very wrong.

Sometimes the first reminds me of 1912-13, sometimes it makes me think of photos of Nicholas and Alexandra during the 1914 cruise. And the last one is tough. It reminds me of the Beinecke album 1908-09 photo of Alexandra and the children on the balcony, but I can't be sure. One day I feel that she looks a little healthier in this photo, the next that it might just be a difference in lighting.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: matushka on November 19, 2013, 05:36:27 AM
I do have a question about this one:

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_i400_zpsd74c8da2.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/i400_zpsd74c8da2.jpg.html)

(Also labeled to have been taken at Peterhof in 1915 -- why was Aleksei wearing dark suit? (In the 1st one, his shirt is white) Is that because -- they stayed at Peterhof for several days or simply boy had changed his clothes?)


Nena, there are a lot of possibilities! Two came to my mind. The first photo (and other of the same day are of the 5 of July, it is more or less clear from the Tsar's diary. This day Alexis boated and then it rained. We can supposed he was wet and changed his clothes. Second possibility: the 19 July, Nicolas II, Marie, Anastasia, Alexei and Sabline went another time together to Peterhof, drank milk, boated, walked. Perhaps this picture was taken that day, and Alexei was wearing dark suit?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on November 19, 2013, 06:25:28 AM
Nena, there are a lot of possibilities! Two came to my mind. The first photo (and other of the same day are of the 5 of July, it is more or less clear from the Tsar's diary. This day Alexis boated and then it rained. We can supposed he was wet and changed his clothes. Second possibility: the 19 July, Nicolas II, Marie, Anastasia, Alexei and Sabline went another time together to Peterhof, drank milk, boated, walked. Perhaps this picture was taken that day, and Alexei was wearing dark suit?

Yes, that's exactly what I had thought, thank you for further explaination and giving the dates. He rarely wore that dark suit, there are just a few photos of him in that one (mostly from early chldhood, during mid/late 1910's), usually the shirt was white.

Sometimes the first reminds me of 1912-13, sometimes it makes me think of photos of Nicholas and Alexandra during the 1914 cruise. And the last one is tough. It reminds me of the Beinecke album 1908-09 photo of Alexandra and the children on the balcony, but I can't be sure. One day I feel that she looks a little healthier in this photo, the next that it might just be a difference in lighting.
The first two you posted were taken at the same day, the Empress was holding a book(s?), and IMHO, those were taken in approx. 1913, but could be also 1914 Standart cruise. Yes, I thought that the last one could have been taken in 1909 at the AP. No, really, I was never, never able to guess the right year when I see Empress' photos. Somehow after Aleksei's birth, her face 'became old' due to all the troubles she had with the Heir's illness. So by 1917/8 her health completely went down, what can be seen from the photos. Especially since accident at Spala, we can say from the photos that she literally 'became older for 10 years'.  
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on November 19, 2013, 10:05:46 AM
http://i019.radikal.ru/0909/d4/e62f5efea9e3.jpg

Maria?

Also, if you have a year I'd appreciate it! :)

I have seen this GD identified as Olga and I believe that is correct. There is another photo of another angel of the scene.  Also this is a dog they found  that looks like Joy, but has different markings and one can see the Imp holding the dog  later back on the yacht( when they are sitting with their Mother and TN on a bench ) 
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on November 19, 2013, 10:15:11 AM
Also the  pearl in the ear says Olga
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 20, 2013, 12:50:51 AM
That's definitely possible and wouldn't surprise me. Maria and Olga already looked alike and that photo is not the best quality. I played around with the contrast and such with it, hoping that it would make it easier to identify which sister it was

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/985/658/12e28e72a1_95998251_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on November 20, 2013, 08:46:37 AM
Also the  pearl in the ear says Olga
It could be. Olga was wearing the pearls on that day:

(http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/om1915_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 20, 2013, 06:31:55 PM
But these outfits were used on numerous days, weren't they? Here are a few more from seemingly different surroundings. Are they the same day or different?

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/864/042/5f3b0ce7be_96011656_o2.jpg)

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/941/846/12f3051d74_96011658_o2.jpg)

And what year are these from?

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/683/849/0bc1bb53cc_96011685_o2.jpg)

(http://nd06.jxs.cz/778/267/4a9baefdf5_96011689_o2.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on November 20, 2013, 11:27:08 PM
One of our yacht experts may have to weigh in on whether these were taken aboard the Standart. If so, then they can be no later than 1914.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on November 21, 2013, 01:35:59 AM
One of our yacht experts may have to weigh in on whether these were taken aboard the Standart. If so, then they can be no later than 1914.
IMO, all the photos GDKassy posted were taken in 1914. :-)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: matushka on November 21, 2013, 04:23:19 AM
I support!
My guess: the 2 last, on the way to the Crimea, so april. The 2 first, in Finland, so july.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on November 21, 2013, 07:43:35 PM
Those blouses show up alot of places ...even in captivity ...Alix is wearing one in the wheel chair and  embroidering the garden  pix and the girls are wearing them in one of the sitting at the shed pix under sweaters . Marie also had her hair up in 1914 during their vacations....  ...but I don't think she'd be allowed a jewel in the ear. There is another photo of that scene with the dog where it's plain the GD is thinner than Marie . 1914 for sure imo :)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 22, 2013, 02:14:08 AM
Which blouses are you referring to, blessOTMA? The ones with the polka dots or the ones with the ruffles on the front?

It seems that the general consensus is that the Grand Duchess in the photo I posted is in fact Olga.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Ally Kumari on November 22, 2013, 03:42:20 AM
http://nd06.jxs.cz/985/658/12e28e72a1_95998251_v1.jpg

I believe this is Olga. Even when you compare her figure with others in the picture, Maria was broader built.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: blessOTMA on November 22, 2013, 06:50:26 AM
Which blouses are you referring to, blessOTMA? The ones with the polka dots or the ones with the ruffles on the front?


The one with the polka dots. In the 1917  garden photo with Alexi.... Olga, Imp and TN sitting at the shed ( and Olga is speaking with Countess  Hendrikova ) they are wearing it under their sweaters. It was only recently I realized AF was wearing it as well during that time . They were also wearing it with the rail road kids in 1916 ( again under sweaters)  That's a complex blouse!
 
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 23, 2013, 02:38:47 AM
I went searching!

Alix:

(http://nd01.jxs.cz/506/876/e2972fed60_41903210_v1.jpg)

Are you referring to these ones of the girls?

(http://nd01.jxs.cz/613/045/0f6868464f_41901075_v1.jpg)

(http://nd01.jxs.cz/574/987/4eb2c3a5e5_41901399_u.jpg)

(http://nd01.jxs.cz/697/549/70d0e9e271_40288204_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on November 23, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
http://nd06.jxs.cz/985/658/12e28e72a1_95998251_v1.jpg

I believe this is Olga. Even when you compare her figure with others in the picture, Maria was broader built.

My eye says Maria, but I've got nothing to prove it!

eta: I don't see a pearl earring — to me it looks more like a little gap in the evergreen foliage in the background. There are similar white spots between the two men standing beside Nicholas.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on November 23, 2013, 02:47:24 PM
the girl is Maria, not Olga - she always been quite slim in her teenage years, Maria was always nicely plump.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 24, 2013, 03:14:31 AM
I understand where those that are saying Olga are coming from, but when I look at the face I cannot see anyone but Maria.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: KarinK on November 25, 2013, 01:49:58 PM
Does anyone know if there's a thread where all the known formal photographs of the family would be dated and numbered? There's so many formal photographs of Nicholas that it would be difficult to put together such a list for him, but I was mostly thinking about some of the well-known 1900s/1910s photo sessions with the children when this question came to mind. For example, I have 6 photos of the family's formal session from 1913; the sixth I only found this year and the variation in their poses is so small that at first sight I thought it was just a better-quality version of a photo I already had. Another example is that I have 8 formal photos of Tatiana but only 5 of Maria from the 1914 session: were more photos taken of Tatiana because she was older, is it simply chance that more Tatiana photos have been made available on the internet, have some of Maria's photos been forever lost, or am I still missing 1914 Maria photos that are out there to be found?

That's why I started thinking a list would be useful and wondering if there is any way to find information about how many formal photographs are known to exist of each family member in each year. Something like Anastasia - 1911: 3, 1912: 0, and so on.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Aliss_Kande on November 25, 2013, 03:51:43 PM
This link will probably help:
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=5060.0 (http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=5060.0).
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: KarinK on November 26, 2013, 10:12:59 AM
Thank you, that's the kind of thread I was thinking about!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 27, 2013, 02:14:19 AM
Hi there,

I'm looking for someone who is good with dating photos of OTMA and is willing to do some email correspondence with me in regards to such. Please PM me if you're interested.

Kassy
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 27, 2013, 11:45:57 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is Alexandra with the girls, is it not?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/OTMA1915-2.jpg
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: KarinK on November 27, 2013, 12:07:31 PM
It's Alexandra. I don't think she's immediately recognisable in that photo but in the 1916 Dnieper photos she has the same look: a hat with a net to cover her face, pearls, and black scarf-like thing (I don't know what it's supposed to be) around her neck.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on November 27, 2013, 12:47:42 PM
I agree, it is Empress Alexandra. It was taken in May of 1916, during IF's visit to a battleship in South Crimea.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 27, 2013, 01:02:18 PM
I was 99.9% sure that it was, but I was doing some work on the girls' wikipedia pages and that photo is labeled as being Sophie B. I corrected it and the person changed it back and insisted that I was wrong. Just wanted to be sure of my identification before I went further.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on November 27, 2013, 03:43:39 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is Alexandra with the girls, is it not?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/OTMA1915-2.jpg
Quote
...and black scarf-like thing (I don't know what it's supposed to be) around her neck.

IMO, she is wearing it in this one, and most probably she wears the same outfit like in the one above that GDKassy posted.

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_D092-D098D0BCD0BFD0B5D180D0B0D182D0BED180D181D0BAD0BED0BC-D0B2D0B0D0B3D0BED0BDD0B5-D09DD0B8D0BAD0BED0BBD0B0D0B9-II-D0B8D0BCD_zpsc9f4da51.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/D092-D098D0BCD0BFD0B5D180D0B0D182D0BED180D181D0BAD0BED0BC-D0B2D0B0D0B3D0BED0BDD0B5-D09DD0B8D0BAD0BED0BBD0B0D0B9-II-D0B8D0BCD_zpsc9f4da51.jpg.html)
(Taken in spring of 1916, after Aleksei recovered the severe nose-bleeding he had had in December of 1915).
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on November 27, 2013, 07:25:04 PM
"Find a citation for the dates on the photos before you change them. Anything other than that is original research."

Well, I tried.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on December 04, 2013, 03:18:02 PM
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/220/862/f720031a9a_96163608_v1.jpg)

Olga?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Rodney_G. on December 05, 2013, 04:46:43 PM
I think so.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: KarinK on December 09, 2013, 03:52:26 AM
Could this be from 1913? It looks as though Tatiana might have a fringe like when she wore the wig.

(http://i.imgur.com/glfFh2x.jpg) (http://imgur.com/glfFh2x)

I can't date this one (originally titled Olga) at all.

(http://i.imgur.com/JVKuDba.jpg) (http://imgur.com/JVKuDba)

Tatiana?

(http://i.imgur.com/X3c6O72.jpg)

The girl on the left is Anastasia, the girl on the right reminds me most of Tatiana, but I can't say whether the third is Olga or Maria.

(http://i.imgur.com/xpBPKst.jpg) (http://imgur.com/xpBPKst)

This one is tough (Olga?) but I hope it'll someday turn up in high quality, since it might be another glimpse of what the girls' rooms looked like in wartime (the curtains are familiar).

(http://i.imgur.com/O99wXOj.jpg) (http://imgur.com/O99wXOj)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on December 09, 2013, 11:20:47 AM
Quote
Could this be from 1913?
Yes, it is.
Quote
I can't date this one (originally titled Olga) at all.
Pretty hard. I'd say 1914.
Quote
The girl on the left is Anastasia, the girl on the right reminds me most of Tatiana, but I can't say whether the third is Olga or Maria.
I'd say Maria.
Quote
This one is tough (Olga?) but I hope it'll someday turn up in high quality, since it might be another glimpse of what the girls' rooms looked like in wartime (the curtains are familiar)
Honestly, I think it is Maria, cca. 1915.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on December 09, 2013, 05:29:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/X3c6O72.jpg) (http://imgur.com/JVKuDba)

Tatiana?


I'd say so.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on December 09, 2013, 09:45:15 PM
This one is tough (Olga?) but I hope it'll someday turn up in high quality, since it might be another glimpse of what the girls' rooms looked like in wartime (the curtains are familiar).

(http://i.imgur.com/O99wXOj.jpg) (http://imgur.com/O99wXOj)

I think Olga, mostly because of this photo:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Olga/th_OlgaampTatianabedroomwindows_zps2493eb37.jpeg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/sarahelizabethii/media/Romanov/Olga/OlgaampTatianabedroomwindows_zps2493eb37.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Sarushka on December 09, 2013, 09:49:33 PM
Just realized there's a third photo from that same day:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_OTbr2_zpsa4b15275.jpeg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/sarahelizabethii/media/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/OTbr2_zpsa4b15275.jpeg.html)

Looks like Tatiana is at left and Maria on the floor in the middle.

Now if you look closely at the photo KarinK originally posted, you'll see Maria is also there — on the floor behind Olga's feet!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: KarinK on December 10, 2013, 09:18:41 AM
Thanks for the help!

Now if you look closely at the photo KarinK originally posted, you'll see Maria is also there — on the floor behind Olga's feet!

When something like this turns up (same place, multiple angles), it's so interesting because it makes even the familiar photo feel new again. Without the photo of the three girls, I don't think it would ever have occurred to me to wonder if one of the blurs in the photo I posted was actually a second girl.

In the clearer photo of Olga, the chaise longue and the chair are beautiful.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on January 06, 2014, 06:03:30 AM
Does anyone have any advice on how to date the photos of OTMA at the lazaret?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Rodney_G. on January 06, 2014, 02:29:59 PM
Does anyone have any advice on how to date the photos of OTMA at the lazaret?

I have advice, though it's not original, and may require more research  and effort than you may wish to make.

At a minimum, there's the eyeball test, that is, judging dates within a fair range based on your knowledge of OTMA's ages and/or (potentially very important) their physical appearance, including dress, hair style, weight, etc. This is obviously an imprecise method.

Another , perhaps  the best, approach , is to identify specific people in the photo, like which of OTMA, officers, nurses , doctors, etc. and compare that info to known occasions of those people being in a specific hospital on a specific date. This can be found in , most frequently, the IF diaries and letters, but also in those of the patients, nurses, doctors, or others who can confirm presence on a particular date. And even parties who weren't present on a given date will sometimes mention somewhere in their writing, contemporary or later, that so-and-so did or said something at a particular lazaret on a specific date. There really is an enormous quantity of written material to explore in this area.

Of course, this is just the beginning. You would want to know what these people present in the hospitals actually looked like, so that you can recognise them and place them on site.

And it would be helpful to be able to differentiate between the different hospitals, both their interiors and exteriors.

All this may seem daunting ,but is in fact doable, given sufficient interest and time on your part, not to mention simply expanding your knowledge and familiarity  right here on these relevant Forum boards. And the whole task becomes both easier and more rewarding over time.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on January 17, 2014, 05:15:59 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps01e19bd0.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MMPC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps01e19bd0.jpg.html). 
In one of my Russian books this photo is labeled as " Queen Victoria of Great Britain and her granddaughter Princess Alix of Hesse". I don't think so
I think it's Princess Karl of Hesse (née  Elisabeth of Prussia) with one of her grand children, possibly a Battenberg? What do you all think? Since I don't think it's Alix nor one of her sisters. 
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Veronica on January 17, 2014, 05:30:42 PM
That's Queen Marie of Hanover with her granddaughter Marie Louise, the future wife of Max of Baden.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on January 17, 2014, 06:33:54 PM
Ah I see thanks, the book was way more off then me as it's a Hanoverian royal not a Hessian royal in a Russian book about the imperial Russian family. As a Hessian  royal would make a lot more sense the  a Hanoverian royal.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: grandduchessella on January 17, 2014, 08:52:38 PM
Yes, Veronica is 100% correct in the identification. I saw that mislabel once too and was like 'huh?'.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: mishaxenia on May 21, 2014, 12:08:40 PM
Hi, a photo of lady in waiting of the empress Alexandra. I think the countess Mengden or another ?


http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh632/misha311/IMG_20140521_0001_zps7387a0b0.jpg
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Inok Nikolai on August 06, 2014, 10:02:11 AM
Does anyone have any advice on how to date the photos of OTMA at the lazaret?

I have advice, though it's not original, and may require more research  and effort than you may wish to make.

At a minimum, there's the eyeball test, that is, judging dates within a fair range based on your knowledge of OTMA's ages and/or (potentially very important) their physical appearance, including dress, hair style, weight, etc. This is obviously an imprecise method.

Another , perhaps  the best, approach , is to identify specific people in the photo, like which of OTMA, officers, nurses , doctors, etc. and compare that info to known occasions of those people being in a specific hospital on a specific date. This can be found in , most frequently, the IF diaries and letters, but also in those of the patients, nurses, doctors, or others who can confirm presence on a particular date. And even parties who weren't present on a given date will sometimes mention somewhere in their writing, contemporary or later, that so-and-so did or said something at a particular lazaret on a specific date. There really is an enormous quantity of written material to explore in this area.

Of course, this is just the beginning. You would want to know what these people present in the hospitals actually looked like, so that you can recognise them and place them on site.

And it would be helpful to be able to differentiate between the different hospitals, both their interiors and exteriors.

All this may seem daunting ,but is in fact doable, given sufficient interest and time on your part, not to mention simply expanding your knowledge and familiarity  right here on these relevant Forum boards. And the whole task becomes both easier and more rewarding over time.

Speaking of patients at the hospital:

We are trying to find more information on a person with the surname “Padalko” who perhaps was a soldier / wounded patient in Tsarskoe Selo. His sister or wife may have been a sister of mercy. He / or she is mentioned only by surname in some Letters from Captivity. We do not have much more to go on.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Antonina on September 14, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
12 May 1916, aboard the battleship "Empress Maria". Please has you got some other version of this photo or some others from the same session?
(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/saltkrakan/18923016/112179/112179_original.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: KarinK on September 15, 2014, 02:32:39 AM
That lovely photo was new to me, these are the ones I had:

(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/KarinArt/Romanov/1916NAOTMAASailors1_zps8c88028b.jpg) (http://s951.photobucket.com/user/KarinArt/media/Romanov/1916NAOTMAASailors1_zps8c88028b.jpg.html)

(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/KarinArt/Romanov/1916NAOTMAASailors2_zps46a6a9b7.jpg) (http://s951.photobucket.com/user/KarinArt/media/Romanov/1916NAOTMAASailors2_zps46a6a9b7.jpg.html)

(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/KarinArt/Romanov/1916NAOTMAASailors3_zps222f9d8d.jpg) (http://s951.photobucket.com/user/KarinArt/media/Romanov/1916NAOTMAASailors3_zps222f9d8d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Antonina on September 15, 2014, 03:14:22 AM
Thank you!!!
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on January 11, 2015, 02:26:20 AM
Hello all. It has been quite some time since I've been adding to my Romanov photo collection and my year identification skills (which were never terribly sharp in the first place) have gotten even worse!

My first thought when looking at these photos was 1914. However, Tatiana's hair doesn't match what we know from other 1914 photos. 1915, then?

http://nd06.jxs.cz/768/126/cb514c5730_99972158_o2.jpg
http://nd06.jxs.cz/446/298/766169d190_99972155_o2.jpg
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on January 11, 2015, 05:42:30 AM
1914,I would say.
Maybe Tatiana just made another hair style on that day. ;) I notice that polka dots shirts  that GD's wore in1914.  I also don't recall any 1915 photo on board the Standard. What do the others think?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Kassafrass on January 11, 2015, 03:47:05 PM
Ah yes, I thought their last trip on their yacht was 1914 but the hair threw me off
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on January 11, 2015, 06:33:22 PM
Sunny and Kalafrana, I was very surprised, too. "Pravda" and "Komsomolskaya pravda" are different newspapers, the second one in 1990s was becoming very "yellow" and of course it wasn't already communist. My parents used to buy it in 1995)))) Unfortunately I was too little to read newspapers and wasn't mad on Romanovs yet!
blessOTMA, oh is it really rare? Well, so bad quality... Only that I have.
(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6621/100115638.0/0_85b2e_15cc4646_orig)
It is signed: "Here Olga is on "Standart" yacht with one of the officers".

Kassafrass, here is just another one of Olga with P.Voronov in the same polka-dot outfit from 1914 on board the Standart. The Grand Duchesses apparently wore those shirts during 1914.

But I truly understand you and your surprise, all of the Grand Duchesses changed many clothes and looked so different during their trips in 1914. Especially Maria. She both had her hair up and down. Many different outfits and hairstyles can be seen as well. One has to wonder.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: TimM on January 13, 2015, 06:57:49 AM
Kind of sad seeing them have such fun on their yacht.   They have no idea of the horrors to come.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: mishaxenia on April 28, 2015, 08:10:59 AM
Hi, You can to identify these two children ? from the Beinecke album 5 p 41
can be taken into the home of the Vyrubova ?
thanks !!!!!
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh632/misha311/1001317_zpsgsl4jfig.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh632/misha311/1001316_quarter_zpsqdxqj1gb.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh632/misha311/1001320_zpsdjx2pe19.jpg
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: mishaxenia on August 22, 2015, 03:11:32 PM
Hi, You can to identify these two children ? from the Beinecke album 5 p 41
can be taken into the home of the Vyrubova ?
thanks !!!!!
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh632/misha311/1001317_zpsgsl4jfig.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh632/misha311/1001316_quarter_zpsqdxqj1gb.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh632/misha311/1001320_zpsdjx2pe19.jpg
I have found that they are cousins of Anna Vyrubova, children of Nadežda Taneieva born 1862 and Dmitry Adol'fovich Eichler born 1854 , state councilor . You know the names of the two sons and some news about their lives ? thanks
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: thebelgianhare on September 15, 2015, 07:04:28 PM
May someone tell me who the two young girls in light coloured clothing are
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/2jeut78.jpg)
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/oum983.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Bryndis on September 15, 2015, 07:34:45 PM
Well according to one source:

"1896, just four years before her death, Queen Victoria with Tsar Nicholas II, her granddaughters Princess Louise of Wales, The Tsarina Princess Alix, and her Daughter in Law Princess Louise of Prussia with her daughters - Princess Margaret of Connaught, later Crown Princess of Sweden, and Princess Patricia of Connaught, who is in foreground seated on the pony carriage step holding a dog"
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: thebelgianhare on September 16, 2015, 05:07:51 AM
Thank you for replying Bryndis, great knowledge
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: thebelgianhare on October 26, 2015, 03:45:13 PM
Me again! Who is the lady with the world's biggest and most fetching hat sitting next to the Tsar and Anna Vyrubova? 
At first glance I thought her Xenia, but now I don't think it is her at all!
(http://i61.tinypic.com/s1qlv8.jpg)
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on May 13, 2017, 08:55:45 AM
Please, is baby Olga or Tatiana here :
http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/nat.jpg

Any opinions?
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Bryndis on May 13, 2017, 09:49:03 AM
Pretty sure it's Tatiana
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: Dru on May 13, 2017, 12:59:25 PM
Please, is baby Olga or Tatiana here :
http://www.livadia.org/tanya/images/nat.jpg

Any opinions?

Tatiana.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: GDLynn on August 15, 2017, 11:36:14 AM
Anyone have the BW of these??

(http://i.imgur.com/H1OFbm3.jpg) (http://imgur.com/H1OFbm3)

(http://i.imgur.com/XYY4qGc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7kRHxC5.jpg)

also, found these on Tumblr, is there a BW of these? they were tagged as Tatiana and Olga but I was unsure. last one looks more like Maria

(http://i.imgur.com/KdcdkrO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BZYwMKb.jpg)

Lynn
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: GDSophie on August 15, 2017, 12:48:16 PM
That's because it is Maria, and you can find them on the Tatiana photo and Maria photo threads at the top of their respected pages.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: GDLynn on August 15, 2017, 01:01:00 PM
That's because it is Maria, and you can find them on the Tatiana photo and Maria photo threads at the top of their respected pages.

Thank you! I knew it didn't look like Olga

Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: TimM on August 15, 2017, 02:37:57 PM
I'm used to seeing Maria with long hair.
Title: Re: Help with Identification, Translations, Finding a Photo
Post by: nena on August 16, 2017, 04:40:11 AM
I wonder is there any photo of Maria wearing long hair from 1914 on? I can't recall one.