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Discussions about the Alexander Palace => The Alexander Palace => Topic started by: EmmyLee on February 11, 2006, 06:52:26 PM

Title: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on February 11, 2006, 06:52:26 PM
I've used the search button and come up with virtually nothing, so I'm hoping that this doesn't anger anyone as I've seen it happen plenty of times here. Anyway, I'd like to get a thread started for posting all available pictures of rooms inside the Alexander Palace, with and without the IF during their lives.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 07:55:00 PM
There are vintage AP pictures scattered here and there, but I agree it'd be nice to have them all in one spot.

I'll post what I've got as soon as Imageshack's site maintenance is through!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 08:32:17 PM
Aleksei's Room:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8266/sbedroomicons9fo.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbedroomicons9fo.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/939/sbedroomwindowsdesk4hm.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbedroomwindowsdesk4hm.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1931/sbedroomwatercolor2yr.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbedroomwatercolor2yr.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 08:35:04 PM
Playroom:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7315/alixalekseiintheplayroom2lr.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alixalekseiintheplayroom2lr.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/932/playroom7eh.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=playroom7eh.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5552/playroomchristmastree4fw.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=playroomchristmastree4fw.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6664/playroomwatercolor6fn.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=playroomwatercolor6fn.jpg)(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4172/playroomwatercolorwindows8zf.th.jpg) (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=playroomwatercolorwindows8zf.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 08:37:31 PM
Crimson Reception Room:
(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7987/crimsonreceptionroom9eb.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crimsonreceptionroom9eb.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 08:38:24 PM
Grand Duchesses' Bathroom:
(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9986/bathroom1pq.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bathroom1pq.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 08:39:39 PM
Grand Duchesses' Classroom:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5725/classroom2an.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=classroom2an.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/261/classroomwatercolor0ya.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=classroomwatercolor0ya.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 08:40:21 PM
Grand Duchesses' Dining Room:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7373/diningroom5xq.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diningroom5xq.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 08:41:09 PM
Maria & Anastasia's Bedroom:
(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3687/sbedroom2ik.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbedroom2ik.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 08:42:07 PM
Music Room:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5986/musicroom4ln.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=musicroom4ln.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 08:49:06 PM
Olga & Tatiana's Bedroom:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4052/sbedroombackwall6ar.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbedroombackwall6ar.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9904/sbedroombeds5sf.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbedroombeds5sf.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9492/sbedroomdoorways1pn.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbedroomdoorways1pn.jpg)(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9233/scan00425jp.th.jpg) (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00425jp.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6698/tmabedroom5bf.th.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmabedroom5bf.jpg)


(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8907/sbedroomwatercolor5pw.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbedroomwatercolor5pw.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1083/sbedroomwatercolor21zc.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbedroomwatercolor21zc.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3314/sbedroomwatercolor36xd.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbedroomwatercolor36xd.jpg)
Some of these watercolors have been misidentified in various books as being Maria & Anastasia's bedroom. But, as Ortino pointed out once, the walls in these paintings are pink with dragonflies, which was the color-scheme in the Big Pair's room. (Maria & Anastasia had grey walls with butterflies).
Title: [URL=httRe: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 08:53:05 PM
Alix's Formal Reception Room:
(http://img1.imageshack.us/thumbnail.png) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sformalreceptionroom4ej.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3470/towardkaulbachportrait7se.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=towardkaulbachportrait7se.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2175/kaulbachportraitcloseup5xa.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kaulbachportraitcloseup5xa.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8871/windowcorner6zf.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=windowcorner6zf.jpg)(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6075/otmainformalreceptionroom7mu.th.jpg) (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=otmainformalreceptionroom7mu.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Margarita Markovna on February 11, 2006, 09:20:40 PM
What WOULD we do without Sarushka?  :-*

Re: the second photo in reply 10, of OT's room:
Never seen before! Thank you! I've never seen a picture with the positions of their beds or anything.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 09:27:58 PM
Quote
What WOULD we do without Sarushka?  :-*

Re: the second photo in reply 10, of OT's room:
Never seen before! Thank you! I've never seen a picture with the positions of their beds or anything.

Well, thanks! I've got lots more, but Imageshack is sooooo slow tonight...

That photo you like was originally posted by Helene, I think.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Margarita Markovna on February 11, 2006, 09:32:28 PM
Must have missed it. Thanks for reposting it!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 10:47:12 PM
Alix's Dressing Room:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8503/dress25oz.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dress25oz.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3223/dress18lg.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dress18lg.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3825/dress37sy.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dress37sy.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 10:50:51 PM
Imperial Bedroom:
(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2222/bedsicons3ze.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bedsicons3ze.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/4601/picturewall4yz.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picturewall4yz.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2051/towardbeds6ra.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=towardbeds6ra.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2663/curtaindetail0dc.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=curtaindetail0dc.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1146/washstandchairs0ke.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=washstandchairs0ke.jpg)(http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1674/alixanastasiainimperialbedroom.th.jpg) (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alixanastasiainimperialbedroom.jpg)
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8370/bedschairs9og.th.jpg) (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bedschairs9og.jpg)(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8620/washstandphotowall1932x14499ls.th.jpg) (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=washstandphotowall1932x14499ls.jpg)(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8168/prayercorner3pj.th.jpg) (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prayercorner3pj.jpg)(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2413/scan00107sh.th.jpg) (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00107sh.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 10:52:43 PM
Tsar's Bathroom:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3807/tub2fc.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tub2fc.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/870/bathroom9vo.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bathroom9vo.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 11:01:46 PM
Maple Room:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8578/mapleroom5sf.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapleroom5sf.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8962/sofa6dl.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofa6dl.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5603/alixinmapleroomsofa6ef.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alixinmapleroomsofa6ef.jpg)(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2750/alixinmapleroom3qw.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alixinmapleroom3qw.jpg)
(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2074/cornercabinet5vo.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cornercabinet5vo.jpg)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3309/cabinetcouchcloseup1xy.th.png) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cabinetcouchcloseup1xy.png)(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9669/cornicedetail4hz.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cornicedetail4hz.jpg)(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/403/cabinetcouch1932x14499bw.th.jpg) (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cabinetcouch1932x14499bw.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 11, 2006, 11:25:32 PM
I'll post the Mauve Budoir, Working Study, New Study, Palisander Room, and a few others when Imageshack straightens itself out...
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Helene on February 12, 2006, 01:10:27 AM
Good job Sarushka  :)

An other view of the imperial bedroom (taken after their departure), where we can see the twin beds

(http://photobucket.com/albums/a13/Angevine/th_bedr.jpg) (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/Angevine/bedr.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2006, 08:38:16 AM
Thank you, Helene!


New Study:
(http://img1.imageshack.us/thumbnail.png) (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newstudy8qx.jpg)(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/236/stairstable2fs.th.jpg) (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stairstable2fs.jpg) (http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5544/tablechairs2eq.th.jpg) (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tablechairs2eq.jpg) (http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6452/doorwaytable0pd.th.jpg) (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorwaytable0pd.jpg)
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5766/desk6wu.th.jpg) (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desk6wu.jpg) (http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9725/kaulbachportraitcloseup0yk.th.jpg) (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kaulbachportraitcloseup0yk.jpg)(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/804/stairsbalcony6jy.th.jpg) (http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stairsbalcony6jy.jpg)(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7084/scan00031xu.th.jpg) (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00031xu.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2006, 08:45:17 AM
Pallisander Room:
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1910/familysittingarea2xc.th.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=familysittingarea2xc.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4531/fireplace0wd.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fireplace0wd.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7826/paintings3zi.th.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paintings3zi.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3218/pallisanderroom9qq.th.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pallisanderroom9qq.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8720/rosewooddarmstadtscreen1dw.th.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rosewooddarmstadtscreen1dw.jpg)(http://img1.imageshack.us/thumbnail.png) (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fireplacewithchaise3ju.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2006, 09:01:02 AM
Mauve Room:
(http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/548/chairwindow6dk.th.jpg) (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chairwindow6dk.jpg) (http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/8095/alixincornerchair0jc.th.jpg) (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alixincornerchair0jc.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/28/chaisechair2ny.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chaisechair2ny.jpg) (http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/5060/chaisechaircloseup2po.th.jpg) (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chaisechaircloseup2po.jpg) (http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/1725/chaisechairbookcase8ls.th.jpg) (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chaisechairbookcase8ls.jpg)  (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3742/alixtmainmauveroom1xf.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alixtmainmauveroom1xf.jpg)(http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1254/desk2al.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desk2al.jpg)   (http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/7058/deskdoorway1vj.th.jpg) (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deskdoorway1vj.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9387/otmadoor7fk.th.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=otmadoor7fk.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8215/tatianainmauveroom6vc.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tatianainmauveroom6vc.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3433/alixinmauveroom6fi.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alixinmauveroom6fi.jpg)  (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4416/mauveroom6an.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mauveroom6an.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9116/olgainmauveroom6ot.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=olgainmauveroom6ot.jpg) (http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/7303/anastasiainmauveroom5bw.th.jpg) (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anastasiainmauveroom5bw.jpg)  (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/6658/pianobackwall1jv.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pianobackwall1jv.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/6899/pianopaintings3dj.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pianopaintings3dj.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2240/screenpaintings1dz.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenpaintings1dz.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2632/sofacorner4ok.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofacorner4ok.jpg) (http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1019/sofacornercloseup9bq.th.jpg) (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sofacornercloseup9bq.jpg)(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/636/scan00119zf.th.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00119zf.jpg)(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/9974/scan0003b7og.th.jpg) (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0003b7og.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2006, 09:05:44 AM
Tsar's Reception Room:
(http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1610/tableportraitwall2aw.th.jpg) (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tableportraitwall2aw.jpg) (http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5158/fireplaceright2wf.th.jpg) (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fireplaceright2wf.jpg) (http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3336/fireplaceleft2dm.th.jpg) (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fireplaceleft2dm.jpg) (http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/213/ceilingdetail4lt.th.jpg) (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ceilingdetail4lt.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2006, 09:11:33 AM
Working Study:
(http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2797/couch2jg.th.jpg) (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=couch2jg.jpg) (http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2807/desklamp7ai.th.jpg) (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desklamp7ai.jpg) (http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2193/lampdetail8lr.th.jpg) (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lampdetail8lr.jpg) (http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6365/workingstudy7ae.th.jpg) (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=workingstudy7ae.jpg)
(http://img1.imageshack.us/thumbnail.png) (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=interno6smallcornice3ou.gif)(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4334/viewfromdesk1932x14490jt.th.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=viewfromdesk1932x14490jt.jpg)(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/462/deskfireplace1932x14498ph.th.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deskfireplace1932x14498ph.jpg)(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1623/desktop2dk.th.jpg) (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop2dk.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2006, 09:13:46 AM
Large Library:
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7057/library1pi.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=library1pi.jpg)

(Not part of NAOTMAA's private rooms)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2006, 09:15:41 AM
Alexander III's Office:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7558/soffice8rt.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soffice8rt.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2006, 09:16:26 AM
Marie Fyodorovna's Bedroom:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/539/mariebroom1zt.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mariebroom1zt.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2006, 09:17:03 AM
Alexander III's Stag Hall:
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2266/staghall2gq.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=staghall2gq.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 12, 2006, 09:18:07 AM
*whew*

That's all I've got. Enjoy!

BTW: I harvested most of these off the internet, trusting other folks' identifications to be correct. If you find a mistake, let me know, and I'll re-post a correction.
:)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Margarita Markovna on February 12, 2006, 10:31:01 AM
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Large Library:
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7057/library1pi.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=library1pi.jpg)

(Not part of NAOTMAA's private rooms)


If it wasn't part of their private rooms, what was it used for and by whom?
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: BobG on February 12, 2006, 11:19:41 AM
Quote
Large Library:
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7057/library1pi.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=library1pi.jpg)

(Not part of NAOTMAA's private rooms)


This is a photo of the Great Library (#3 on plans) which is part of the Parade rooms of the palace. Information on the room and its use can be found on the main AP site at

http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/biglibrary.html

BobG
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 18, 2006, 10:45:55 AM
This was also taken in the playroom:
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9944/otmaashaved4wp.th.jpg) (http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=otmaashaved4wp.jpg)

It gives a clearer shot of the railings just barely visible in the foreground of this photo:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/932/playroom7eh.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=playroom7eh.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 19, 2006, 02:39:56 PM
Alix's Formal Reception room, 1916
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4948/otma191680percent2ac.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=otma191680percent2ac.jpg)

Thank you to Aliss Kande for this one!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 19, 2006, 08:06:35 PM
Sickroom:
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/674/tatianatyphus7nl.th.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tatianatyphus7nl.jpg) (http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8524/tatiananiiinsickroom19138pm.th.jpg) (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tatiananiiinsickroom19138pm.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Kevint1us on February 21, 2006, 11:39:20 PM
Hi:

The Grand Duchesses in the Formal Drawing Room picture are next to an instrument that looks like an organ....in fact, one can see the same instrument with the lid closed, and foot pedals clearly visible, in other pics.....I know someone has called this some kind of music box, but it sure looks like at least a two-manual organ, if not three. Anyone know for sure?

Mark
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: hikaru on February 21, 2006, 11:52:49 PM
I think that name of this instrument is klavikord ( I am sorry, only in russian)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 26, 2006, 01:20:36 PM
Mountain Hall:
(http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5821/mountainhall2vh.th.jpg) (http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mountainhall2vh.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Ortino on February 26, 2006, 03:47:54 PM
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Hi:

The Grand Duchesses in the Formal Drawing Room picture are next to an instrument that looks like an organ....in fact, one can see the same instrument with the lid closed, and foot pedals clearly visible, in other pics.....I know someone has called this some kind of music box, but it sure looks like at least a two-manual organ, if not three. Anyone know for sure?

Mark


The correct spelling in english is clavichord.  ;) It's not a clavichord because it does not resemble one at all. A clavichord has no pedals and it basically a keyboard inserted into a table like base. In the article describing Alexandra's Formal Reception Room, Bob simply calls it a "grand piano." Grand pianos can have two or three pedals.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 26, 2006, 04:38:17 PM
But it looks to me like the instrument in the photo has two rows of keys, like an organ.
???
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Ortino on February 26, 2006, 06:43:32 PM
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But it looks to me like the instrument in the photo has two rows of keys, like an organ.
 ???


Oh! I didn't realize you posted a photo. According to the main article posted by Bob, there was an organ stand in the Formal Reception Room so there must have been an organ.....You're right though, I also see two sets of keys.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Forum Admin on February 26, 2006, 09:20:58 PM
That is an organ. Many organs do have two sets of keys. There is the precursor to the piano, called the Harpsichord which did also have two rows of keys, I've played one, but that in the photo is an organ.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on February 27, 2006, 12:55:03 AM
I've gone back and updated my original set of posts with 11 more pictures. You'll find new views of the Playroom, Imperial bedroom, Maple room, Mauve room, New Study, Pallisander room, and Working Study.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: ChristineM on February 27, 2006, 04:38:42 PM
The 'organ' in the Empress's Corner Salon is what was called an harmonium.   They could be either single or double manual and had stops like a pipe organ.   Its bellows were pumped by the two foot pedals.  

tsaria
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on March 28, 2006, 08:59:59 AM
The Little Pair's classroom (I think!)
(http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/2199/7174b5mj.th.jpg) (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7174b5mj.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Ortino on March 28, 2006, 05:13:43 PM
It can't be the Grand Duchesses' classroom at the Alexander Palace--the decor is all wrong, especially the flower wallpaper. It may very well be a classroom, but I'm almost positive it's at the Lower Dacha at Peterhof. Much of the decor there was floral and judging from the size of the room, it can't image it being elsewhere.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on March 28, 2006, 08:39:05 PM
I agree that it's certainly not this classroom:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5725/classroom2an.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=classroom2an.jpg)

But I wonder if it could be the room listed on this plan as #37, labeled as the "Junior Girls Classroom. I've never seen a photo of that room -- have you, Ortino?
(http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/9168/apsecondfloorplanstyped5pu.th.jpg) (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=apsecondfloorplanstyped5pu.jpg)

I don't think you can rule out the AP by virtue of the wallpaper. They had floral wallpaper in other rooms on the children's floor that's similar to the design in the photo I posted, such as the GDss dining room, and the Crimson Room:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7373/diningroom5xq.th.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diningroom5xq.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7987/crimsonreceptionroom9eb.th.jpg) (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crimsonreceptionroom9eb.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Ortino on March 29, 2006, 06:12:50 AM
No, room 37 is the Music Room. It's labeled wrong. Floral wallpaper may be a common theme, but I don't think it matches anything in the Alexander Palace. I still think that it's the Lower Dacha.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on March 29, 2006, 08:07:24 AM
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No, room 37 is the Music Room. It's labeled wrong.
Really? That means the book by V.I. Yakovlev, The Alexander palace-museum in Detskoye Selo. Decoration.- Leningrad., 1928 is incorrect. What's the correct label for room #17, then? It says Music Room & Cinema Room. And what source have you found to be more accurate?
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Ortino on March 29, 2006, 08:22:32 AM
This is from the floorplans thread:

"There were two classrooms for the Grand Duchesses in the palace. The second was over Nicholas's Reception Room and was used for music and dance instruction."

The main palace website labels it as a classroom for the young grand duchesses where "piano practice of his [Nicholas] daughters could be heard from above in this room."

Nicholas' Reception Room is right under room 37--therefore if music could be heard, we can presume it was either the Music Room or there was a piano in there at least. I don't know exactly what room 17 was used for--it's labeled as "The Music Room (the Cinema Room or the Teacher`s Common Room)" by Vladimir_V in the floorplans thread, meaning that it may have served several functions.

Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: BobG on March 29, 2006, 08:41:59 AM
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This is from the floorplans thread:

I don't know exactly what room 17 was used for--it's labeled as "The Music Room (the Cinema Room or the Teacher`s Common Room)" by Vladimir_V in the floorplans thread, meaning that it may have served several functions.


Considering that Alexey had a large suite to himself and quite a separate schedule and course of study than his sisters, it makes sense that he would have his own "Music Room."  And Ortino's descripription that it might also be used as a Cinema Room and a Teacher's Common room makes a lot of sense considering the attention the Heir would receive.  I am also sure that with five pupils there would have to be more than one piano for practicing.

BobG
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on March 29, 2006, 11:10:35 AM
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Considering that Alexey had a large suite to himself and quite a separate schedule and course of study than his sisters, it makes sense that he would have his own "Music Room."  And Ortino's descripription that it might also be used as a Cinema Room and a Teacher's Common room makes a lot of sense considering the attention the Heir would receive.  I am also sure that with five pupils there would have to be more than one piano for practicing.

That makes sense. Maybe there's also a difference in terminology between the IF and the museum curators. We've got a room in our house that we rather grandly refer to as "the library." It's got books in it, but we really use it to watch TV. If someone who didn't know us came in to map the house, they'd certainly label it a den.  ;)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Ortino on March 29, 2006, 06:11:24 PM
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Considering that Alexey had a large suite to himself and quite a separate schedule and course of study than his sisters, it makes sense that he would have his own "Music Room."  And Ortino's descripription that it might also be used as a Cinema Room and a Teacher's Common room makes a lot of sense considering the attention the Heir would receive.  I am also sure that with five pupils there would have to be more than one piano for practicing.

That makes sense. Maybe there's also a difference in terminology between the IF and the museum curators. We've got a room in our house that we rather grandly refer to as "the library." It's got books in it, but we really use it to watch TV. If someone who didn't know us came in to map the house, they'd certainly label it a den.  ;)

This may certainly be so--what one call's a specifc room or place may not be the same as another person. I also agree with Bob G--Alexei had his own rooms away from his sisters, so it wouldn't surprise me if he had his own Music Room.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Ortino on March 29, 2006, 06:15:07 PM
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Considering that Alexey had a large suite to himself and quite a separate schedule and course of study than his sisters, it makes sense that he would have his own "Music Room."  And Ortino's descripription that it might also be used as a Cinema Room and a Teacher's Common room makes a lot of sense considering the attention the Heir would receive.  I am also sure that with five pupils there would have to be more than one piano for practicing.

That makes sense. Maybe there's also a difference in terminology between the IF and the museum curators. We've got a room in our house that we rather grandly refer to as "the library." It's got books in it, but we really use it to watch TV. If someone who didn't know us came in to map the house, they'd certainly label it a den.  ;)

This may certainly be so--what one call's a specifc room or place may not be the same as another person. I also agree with Bob G--Alexei had his own rooms away from his sisters, so it wouldn't surprise me if he had his own Music Room.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Forum Admin on March 29, 2006, 06:16:38 PM
The films were only shown in the Semi-Circular Hall, so that is the only room properly labelled "cinema" but really that isn't accurate, obviously.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Vladimir_V. on March 31, 2006, 12:31:02 PM
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The films were only shown in the Semi-Circular Hall, so that is the only room properly labelled "cinema" but really that isn't accurate, obviously.

The room 17 had a cinema screen (from the rubber cloth covered by aluminum paint).
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on December 03, 2006, 10:25:05 AM
The telephone mounted on the wall of the imperial bedroom (as well as a nice close-up of the wallcovering! ;))

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/Imperialphone.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Elizaveta on December 03, 2006, 12:07:26 PM
I just HAD to get it off my chest...

I wish I could have those Edwardian-era interiors, they always made rooms seem so cozy and homey, unlike today's modern style!  :-X
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alixz on December 03, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
I think that the room with the circular wall paper and matching curtains would have made me crazy!   :o  Then if that were not enough, every other inch is covered with photos, paintings, icons, and other decorations.

I can't imagine what the interior designers of "Sell This House" on HGTV would have to say about the "clutter".  ;D  Good thing the Romanovs never had to sell their palaces.  The new owner's taste might not have been the same. And according to those interior designers, "you must let the prospective buyers see their possessions in place of yours and too much clutter makes a room look small."   ;D
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on January 10, 2007, 08:25:35 AM
Some new views of the AP, with thanks to Geglov2-3!

Palisander Room (new angle):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_um.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/um.jpg)


Working Study of NII (wider view):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_Deskfireplaceb.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/Deskfireplaceb.jpg)


Mauve Room (wider view):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_sub_wm.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/sub_wm.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on January 10, 2007, 08:34:05 AM
Imperial Bedroom (new angle):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_Bedssofafromright.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/Bedssofafromright.jpg)


Playroom (slightly diffrent angle and arrangement of toys & furniture):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_Playroom2.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/Playroom2.jpg)


Aleksei's Classroom (wider view):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_Alekseisclassroomfull.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/Alekseisclassroomfull.jpg)

Thanks again to Geglov2-3 for posting a link to the site where I found these!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: NAOTMAA Fan on August 10, 2007, 03:57:16 PM
Wow Sarushka those are exceedingly good, are they in fact some of those water colors done after the Imperial Family left? If so would that mean colored versions exist?  :)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on August 10, 2007, 05:19:23 PM
Wow Sarushka those are exceedingly good, are they in fact some of those water colors done after the Imperial Family left? If so would that mean colored versions exist?  :)

Nope, these are different from the watercolors. The paintings were only of the children's rooms upstairs. I know I've posted all the watercolors I've got somewhere around here. Let me know if you can't find them with the search function (I'd look in the Alexander Palace threads for "watercolor") and I'll repost them.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Condecontessa on August 10, 2007, 06:22:25 PM
Sarushka,

Could you please kindly post the Grand Duchesses' bathroom in the Alexander Palace? I was going through the first page of this thread and the thumbnail image isn't there anymore. And also Maria and Anastasia's bedroom as well. Thanks.

Condecontessa
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on August 10, 2007, 10:06:44 PM
Shoot -- a lot of my palace images have gone AWOL and I don't know why...  :-\ Let me know when you spot more missing ones and I'll repost them.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_GrandDuchessesbathroom.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/GrandDuchessesbathroom.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_MariaAnastasiasbedroom.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/MariaAnastasiasbedroom.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Condecontessa on August 10, 2007, 10:49:17 PM
I didn't know the room where Anastasia was hanging on was their bathroom!!! Is there a pic of the infamous silver tub that bathed a string of Imperial babies in the Alexander Palace? I have a feeling it might exist because its kind of private. Thanks Sarushka for reposting the pics.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: NAOTMAA Fan on August 10, 2007, 11:43:57 PM
Wow Sarushka those are exceedingly good, are they in fact some of those water colors done after the Imperial Family left? If so would that mean colored versions exist?  :)

Nope, these are different from the watercolors. The paintings were only of the children's rooms upstairs. I know I've posted all the watercolors I've got somewhere around here. Let me know if you can't find them with the search function (I'd look in the Alexander Palace threads for "watercolor") and I'll repost them.

Oh my, Sarushka you're too kind!! ;D When were these other, correct me if I'm wrong, water colours (?) done?  I wasn't able to locate the upper floor water colours through the search toolbar, but thanks for the tip.  ;)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on August 11, 2007, 07:01:34 AM
Oh my, Sarushka you're too kind!! ;D When were these other, correct me if I'm wrong, water colours (?) done?  I wasn't able to locate the upper floor water colours through the search toolbar, but thanks for the tip.  ;)

Here's the thread: Interior watercolors of the AP (http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,6312.0.html)


I didn't know the room where Anastasia was hanging on was their bathroom!!! Is there a pic of the infamous silver tub that bathed a string of Imperial babies in the Alexander Palace? I have a feeling it might exist because its kind of private. Thanks Sarushka for reposting the pics.

I've never seen a photo of the bathtub. :(
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Condecontessa on August 11, 2007, 01:04:15 PM
I wonder what happened with the silver tub. I'm sure the Bolsheviks melted it to help pay for their "finances". Or did the Nazi's stole the tub during WWII? It's kind of funny imagining a bunch of Nazi's running away with the silver tub( I'm still saying that there was nothing funny with WWII). A picture of it might not exist because it was private.

Condecontessa
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: pastpalacelife on August 12, 2007, 01:30:36 AM
(http://[IMG]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z104/palacepastlife/tsarbath.jpg)[/img]  I wonder if this picture will post,  its been so long that I have forgotten how to do this
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: NAOTMAA Fan on August 12, 2007, 03:11:58 PM
Thanks again Sarushka!!  ;D
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alexandre64 on December 06, 2007, 08:16:08 AM
Hello,
I made a photo montage, with 2 photos that this alexanderpalace.org found on the wall of the main semi-circular Hall:
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Palais%20Alexandre/Semicirculaire.jpg
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alexandre64 on April 20, 2008, 10:51:11 AM
Hello, these are pictures taken a film during a visit communist:

The New Art Study:
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Palais%20Alexandre/vlcsnap-277048.png
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Palais%20Alexandre/vlcsnap-277169.png
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Palais%20Alexandre/vlcsnap-277390.png
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Palais%20Alexandre/vlcsnap-277850.png

And the Chamber of Alexandra:
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Palais%20Alexandre/vlcsnap-277952.png
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Palais%20Alexandre/vlcsnap-277694.png
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Palais%20Alexandre/vlcsnap-277476.png
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Palais%20Alexandre/vlcsnap-277273.png
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: NAOTMAA Fan on April 20, 2008, 09:06:05 PM
That painting in the second last one looks like one of those hideously overdone paintings Kaiser Wilhelm endlessly gave Nicky and Alix during the Russo-Japanese war x__x
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on April 20, 2008, 10:44:00 PM
Thank you, Alexandre64, for the foregoing photos ("stills" from the film), which included the painting of the Emperor Alexander III.  I wonder where it is now?  It was also interesting to see again the multiple eggs and icons displayed.    Best regards,  AP.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: PAVLOV on September 03, 2010, 08:21:09 AM
The clutter !!!! Everyone has expressed an opinion about this, but I think that even in Alexandra's time all these interiors had become dated. She "did" them soon after her marriage, and rooms date after 20 years. Clutter was not that fashionable anymore. She certainly was not prone to any redecorating. She just left everything the way it was in 1895, but just added more stuff. I wonder what it would have looked like had she lived there till say 1930 ? 
Also I always notice how badly she hung ( hanged ) the pictures. The groupings are really very badly put together, not symetrical and not forming anything vaguely cohesive at all. Just banged up in any old way, all over the place. Even small items and pictures the same size have the wrong spacings between them.
Guess I am a pain in the butt about things like pictures on walls, but I think I would probably have been running around straightening things out if I was around then !
I like it much better since the renovation, clean and crisp and bright. I think that was the way it was supposed to have been originally, not cozied up.
       
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alan on September 05, 2010, 04:06:59 PM
The Empress was brought up by her grandmother Queen Victoria. Her rooms were just the same, full of photos etc. After the Prince Consort died, she had all the rooms photographed and everything had to remain in its exact place after the housework was done. Everything had to remain the same as it was during the Prince Consort's lifetime.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alexandre64 on February 26, 2011, 03:35:06 AM

The Large Library:

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/b96f56989b4d4428007f1fdd955e661c1.jpg)
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/a15d024d6998d9566a002af25e34f4bb1.jpg)

Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alexandre64 on February 26, 2011, 03:38:03 AM
group of visitors in the Billiard Hall:

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/d034d039b90548e3c7d06d3e596a429c2.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alexandre64 on February 26, 2011, 03:43:15 AM
Palace Chapel

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/e0b79a024a316fd774734441928591fb2.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on February 26, 2011, 10:57:38 AM
Thank you, Alexandre! I'm not sure about the first photo of the large library, but I know I haven't seen the second.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alexandre64 on February 26, 2011, 11:33:56 AM

anything, here is a picture of Maple Room taken from the balcony

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/b021.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on February 26, 2011, 12:36:54 PM
Where are you getting these? If you have more, I would be thrilled!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Laura Mabee on February 26, 2011, 01:40:27 PM
Alexandre64> Your images are fantastic. Thank you so much for sharing.
I must ask, the last photo looks like a screencap from a documentary. I am on the right track? If so, may I ask the name of it?
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alexandre64 on February 26, 2011, 02:50:51 PM
they really come from a documentary, but I can not tell you the name
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Holly on February 27, 2011, 03:39:52 PM
they really come from a documentary, but I can not tell you the name


Why is that?
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Michael HR on February 28, 2011, 07:36:12 AM
Great pictures. I like the one taken from above looking down into the room.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alexandre64 on February 28, 2011, 08:27:32 AM
It was a Russian program, and I found the photo on google
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Laura Mabee on February 28, 2011, 10:21:38 AM
Thanks anyway Alexandre. If you do come across it though please let us know. I enjoy watching Russian programs just as much as English programs, and I am sure the rest of the board would be interested as well. When you were on google, did you just search under "maple room, Alexander palace"? : )
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Alexandre64 on February 28, 2011, 11:24:12 AM
I wrote "Alexander Palace" in Russian
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: pastpalacelife on March 01, 2011, 08:11:22 PM
I wish we could see the video that was shown in the marble hall to the press when the AP announced it was restoring more rooms.  I keep wondering if that video contained more of the footage from 1920 or whenever, when it was opened to tourist. I love the maple room balcony shot, big thanks to poster!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sanochka on June 05, 2011, 02:39:28 PM
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n556/sanochka1/AlexanderPalace-NAsBedroom.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n556/sanochka1/AlexanderPalace-MauveBoudoir.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n556/sanochka1/AlexanderPalace-MapleDrawingRoom.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n556/sanochka1/AlexanderPalace-GrandDuchessesDiningRoom.jpg)

Hi all.  I've spent countless hours exploring this site over the years as a guest, and have finally decided to "take the plunge" and become a member.  I've immensely enjoyed all of your posts.  They are a treasure trove of startling amounts of knowledge about an endlessly fascinating topic.  

These are my first pictures.  I found them on a Web site, whose address I'll post if anyone is interested.  They are from a series of digitalized and colorized photos taken in and around the Alexander Palace in the late 1920s or early 1930s.  The first three should be familiar to all.  The fourth is most fascinating.  It is entitled, simply, "Dining Room in the Palace."  I thought immediately of the Grand Duchesses' upstairs dining room, but cannot reconcile the photo with the palace floorplans I've seen elsewhere on this site.  
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sanochka on June 05, 2011, 02:43:11 PM
Eeeps.  The above is not what I intended.  This warrants another look at the posting discussions to see what I did wrong.
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Post by: Sarushka on June 05, 2011, 02:50:08 PM
I modified your post and fixed the coding. :^)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sanochka on June 05, 2011, 02:57:14 PM
Hi Sarushka!  I did some quick research and the entire concept suddenly clicked.  I came back to modify my post, but think you and I were both modifying simultaneously.  Now the 4 images show as a red "x" in a white box. 
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on June 05, 2011, 03:27:22 PM
Fixed!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sanochka on June 05, 2011, 03:35:20 PM
Thank you!!
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Post by: blessOTMA on June 05, 2011, 06:15:39 PM
Stunning! Thank you for posting them!!!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: pastpalacelife on June 05, 2011, 09:32:46 PM
Hi Sanochka and welcome.  I love the pics and would like to know where you found them on the web.  Thanks.  Tracy
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Michael HR on June 06, 2011, 05:11:16 AM
What fab photos thank you very much
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on June 06, 2011, 08:07:06 AM
I suspect Sanochka found them at Royal Russia:

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ImperialRussian/royalty/russia/ap1931.html (http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ImperialRussian/royalty/russia/ap1931.html)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on June 06, 2011, 01:16:18 PM
Oh wow, these photos are great!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sanochka on June 06, 2011, 01:36:47 PM
Actually, I found them at Poemas del Rio Wang Tsarskoe Selo.  The pictures can be accessed at

riowang.blogspot.com/2011/05/tsarskoe-selo.html

A further search did turn up the same pictures at Royal Russia, which site identified the fourth picture as a dining room at the Lower Dacha at Peterhof. 
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Lindelle on June 07, 2011, 04:20:55 PM
It looks so cosy.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on June 08, 2011, 03:18:37 AM
It looks so cosy.
and colorful!! There is a pleasant sensation of really seeing these rooms when colour is added to our habitual study of the usually black and white photos. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: BobG on June 08, 2011, 04:23:36 PM
Actually, I found them at Poemas del Rio Wang Tsarskoe Selo.  The pictures can be accessed at

riowang.blogspot.com/2011/05/tsarskoe-selo.html

A further search did turn up the same pictures at Royal Russia, which site identified the fourth picture as a dining room at the Lower Dacha at Peterhof. 
I let Paul Gilbert at Royal Russia know that the dining room and Tsars' study (both originally identified as AP rooms) were in fact from the Lower Dacha at Peterhof.  He was going to check his source to find out if more pictures from the Lower Dacha were available.
BobG
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on June 08, 2011, 05:01:05 PM
I let Paul Gilbert at Royal Russia know that the dining room and Tsars' study (both originally identified as AP rooms) were in fact from the Lower Dacha at Peterhof.  He was going to check his source to find out if more pictures from the Lower Dacha were available.
BobG

Thanks for pointing that out. I realized the dining room wasn't the one at the AP, but I missed NII's study.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Joanna on June 09, 2011, 11:16:41 AM
Original source of all Brandon DeCou's digital archive c1931:

i.e. exterior AP - zoom in/out
http://digitalcollections.ucsc.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/p265101coll30/id/3934/rec/42

Full collection:
http://digitalcollections.ucsc.edu/cdm/search/searchterm/st.+petersburg+russia!russia/field/all!covera/mode/any!all/conn/and!and/page/3

Joanna
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on June 09, 2011, 12:38:27 PM
Thank you Joanna! While using the zoom feature on the exterior shot, I realized that there are bars on the 2nd floor windows, probably put in place for the orphan children's safety.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on June 09, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
EmmyLee -- we were posting about the same thing at the same time!


It wasn't just for the orphans' safety -- here's Olga in 1917:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Arrest%20and%20Exile/th_RA8-Vk22.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Arrest%20and%20Exile/?action=view&current=RA8-Vk22.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on June 09, 2011, 02:16:48 PM
are you saying this photo of Olga was taken in captivity? Remarkable
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on June 09, 2011, 03:04:08 PM
So the bars must have been put there when the palace was originally built...interesting. Beautiful photo, Sarushka! Thank you for posting it. It reminds me of that c. 1913-14 shot of Olga Nikolaevna by a window with the same wistful expression on her face...
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on June 09, 2011, 06:34:03 PM
are you saying this photo of Olga was taken in captivity? Remarkable

Yep. Nena found it, I believe. I don't recall where.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on June 09, 2011, 08:34:50 PM
good lord there's an open book and flowers...sort of a strange riff on the 1914 formals
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on June 10, 2011, 12:12:44 PM
Oh, thank you Sarushka. I had no idea that there were bars on the windows back then. Were they put up during captivity? If so, I wonder why they took up just half of the window.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on June 10, 2011, 03:50:20 PM
Oh, thank you Sarushka. I had no idea that there were bars on the windows back then. Were they put up during captivity? If so, I wonder why they took up just half of the window.

Seeing the open windows from the outside, I suspect they were barred all along. Those windows look nearly as large as doorways and don't appear to have screens. Without bars I think they'd be a serious safety hazard to any children -- imperial or soviet.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on June 10, 2011, 04:45:46 PM
like  the Standart 's  railing....   
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on June 10, 2011, 05:35:49 PM
Seeing the open windows from the outside, I suspect they were barred all along. Those windows look nearly as large as doorways and don't appear to have screens. Without bars I think they'd be a serious safety hazard to any children -- imperial or soviet.

Good point. Plus, if they had been put up during captivity some source probably would have mentioned it. I think I'm going to have to go back through my photos of the AP and see if the bars are visible in other photos.


*edit* Yes, they're faintly visible in other photos if you know to look for them.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/AP%20Exterior%20and%20Park/Vintage%20Exterior/th_ap1930s.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/AP%20Exterior%20and%20Park/Vintage%20Exterior/?action=view&current=ap1930s.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/AP%20Exterior%20and%20Park/Vintage%20Exterior/th_file7224wk6.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/AP%20Exterior%20and%20Park/Vintage%20Exterior/?action=view&current=file7224wk6.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on June 10, 2011, 08:51:01 PM
Plus, if they had been put up during captivity some source probably would have mentioned it. 
Exactly and look at them...they would not keep you from escaping... just from falling. The same concern that informed the Standart's railings is evident. Thanks for the photos! 
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on June 14, 2011, 08:46:56 PM
I just noticed today that the bars were also visible in these watercolors of Aleksei's classroom and the playroom:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_Alekseisclassroomwatercolor.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/?action=view&current=Alekseisclassroomwatercolor.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/th_Playroomwatercolorwindows.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/?action=view&current=Playroomwatercolorwindows.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on June 15, 2011, 04:10:50 PM
That's right! How have we (or at least I) not noticed the bars all this time?
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on June 15, 2011, 09:42:54 PM
Good find Are the bars on all the windows or just some I wonder ...perhaps just the family wing?
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on July 28, 2011, 07:49:34 PM
I don't believe this one has been shared on here yet:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Imperial%20Bedroom/th_beds.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Imperial%20Bedroom/?action=view&current=beds.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on July 28, 2011, 09:37:15 PM
wWonderful EmmyLee! There are photos in a rack in the bottom left hand corner...one looks like a portait of Ella and Serge....like the '90s or early 1900
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Tatiana Z on October 20, 2011, 08:11:31 AM
(http://s017.radikal.ru/i406/1110/fb/a60f3250a3e6t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i406/1110/fb/a60f3250a3e6.jpg.html)

(http://s55.radikal.ru/i149/1110/40/49474f529d1at.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s55.radikal.ru/i149/1110/40/49474f529d1a.jpg.html)

(http://s017.radikal.ru/i431/1110/56/355c040ba4fct.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i431/1110/56/355c040ba4fc.jpg.html)

(http://s017.radikal.ru/i430/1110/7b/783cbe0bd825t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i430/1110/7b/783cbe0bd825.jpg.html)

(http://i044.radikal.ru/1110/f6/10a4b8e932a2t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i044.radikal.ru/1110/f6/10a4b8e932a2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Tatiana Z on October 20, 2011, 08:13:41 AM
(http://s017.radikal.ru/i425/1110/32/6a1606a9ecbet.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i425/1110/32/6a1606a9ecbe.jpg.html)

(http://i070.radikal.ru/1110/31/413a7d8565a9t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i070.radikal.ru/1110/31/413a7d8565a9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on October 20, 2011, 09:28:38 AM
The size of those photos is terrific!

Where did the watercolors come from? I don't remember ever seeing them before.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Tatiana Z on October 20, 2011, 04:05:26 PM
The size of those photos is terrific!

Where did the watercolors come from? I don't remember ever seeing them before.

This photos  I made myself   in Alexander Palace  15 . 10 . 2011
There was  exibition with some old  photos and paintings of the rooms .
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on October 20, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
MARVELOUS!! Thank you!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on October 20, 2011, 06:46:25 PM
Tatiana, you have made my day! Thank you for those gorgeous photos!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Laura Mabee on October 22, 2011, 08:17:29 PM
Thank you Tatiana! You've done it again with an amazing post! Thanks for the awesome shots!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Inok Nikolai on April 26, 2012, 09:58:29 AM
I have no idea (or time to investigate right now, sorry) whether or not these photos have been seen here before, but P. Gilbert posted these recently on his web-site:
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ImperialRussian/blog/index.blog/1436167/the-alexander-palace-museum-1928/

It is interesting to see Soviet tourists in line to enter, and then in the halls.

Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on April 26, 2012, 05:11:09 PM
At least a couple are new to me!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on April 26, 2012, 06:32:46 PM
Thank you!

Any idea whose bed that is underneath the photo of the imperial bedroom?
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Joanna on May 24, 2012, 07:37:48 PM
EmmyLee, there are more photos to this series called "The opening of the Alexander Palace to the public. 1928". One is amazing of the Catherine Palace. As it is 1928 and the children's floor was open, the simplicity of the bed and surround, plus the curtained divider - this room could be one of the maid's rooms opposite to the grand duchess suite on the second floor. I am still working on Yakovlev which description of 1927 may help more to identify.

Joanna
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on May 24, 2012, 07:40:15 PM
Ah, that could be. Good thinking, Joanna.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Joanna on May 24, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
I can send you large size of these photos. pm me if you would like it.
Joanna
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on May 25, 2012, 12:39:37 AM
 (http://s55.radikal.ru/i149/1110/40/49474f529d1at.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s55.radikal.ru/i149/1110/40/49474f529d1a.jpg.html)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_ANinMR.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/ANinMR.jpg)

 How great is it this watercolour painting should show us the chair the Imp was sitting in when this photo of her in her parent's room was taken ?( in the watercolour,  one can see the chair's back in front of the bench at the foot of the bed ) Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on May 25, 2012, 06:41:17 AM
Do you know who the artist is?

I have two watercolors of the mauve room that appear to be by the same person, but I have no idea who it is.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on May 25, 2012, 08:44:15 AM
Sadly no, but I bow to them. Watercolour is tough imo. 
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Iceman on August 01, 2012, 02:48:53 AM
a question for you out there ...
 the photo from kjesarinnans formal reception room there hangs a picture on the wall is alexandra himself depicted??

 Live well Tommy
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on August 08, 2012, 06:52:03 PM
Found this one today of the Maple Room:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Maple%20Room/th_Klevovgostin19140cg.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Maple%20Room/?action=view&current=Klevovgostin19140cg.jpg)

And this one of the New Study:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/New%20Study/th_The_New_Study_Alexander_Palace_9.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/New%20Study/?action=view&current=The_New_Study_Alexander_Palace_9.jpg)

This one is better than I had before:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Maple%20Room/th_The_Maple_Drawing_Room_Alexander_Palace_28.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Maple%20Room/?action=view&current=The_Maple_Drawing_Room_Alexander_Palace_28.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on October 27, 2012, 04:59:22 PM
Formal Reception Room:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Formal%20Reception%20Room/th_receptiont4.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Formal%20Reception%20Room/?action=view&current=receptiont4.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on October 28, 2012, 09:09:03 AM
Marvelous! Thanks!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: lilianna on October 28, 2012, 01:49:29 PM
Corridor on the 2nd floor of a colonnade.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/40578205.jpg/
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Brassov on October 29, 2012, 08:22:21 AM
Interesting. Where exactly is the passageway ? Great photo, do you have anymore ?
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: lilianna on October 29, 2012, 10:54:34 AM
This photo - summer 2012. I have a photo of this place to our great tragedy of the great Patriotic war of the USSR against the Nazis.
On the photo - a corridor on the 2nd floor above the Front halls and the Windows of the corridor look at the colonnade. This hall you can see the layout of the Palace.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: PIPOCA on October 30, 2012, 12:15:54 PM
Corridor on the 2nd floor of a colonnade.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/40578205.jpg/

This  corredor is in the imperial  side in front of the alexei bathroom ,classroom and cinema
5 windows And 3 doors, between his bedroom and  Gilliards Roma.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: PIPOCA on October 30, 2012, 12:20:37 PM
Corridor on the 2nd floor of a colonnade.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/40578205.jpg/

This  corredor is in the imperial  side in front of the alexei bathroom ,classroom and cinema
5 windows And 3 doors, between his bedroom and  Gilliards Rooms
[this is the alexei hallway
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: PIPOCA on October 30, 2012, 12:21:40 PM
This is the alexei hallway.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: BobG on October 31, 2012, 06:54:06 AM
This photo - summer 2012. I have a photo of this place to our great tragedy of the great Patriotic war of the USSR against the Nazis.
On the photo - a corridor on the 2nd floor above the Front halls and the Windows of the corridor look at the colonnade. This hall you can see the layout of the Palace.


I don't see how this could be the Alexei hallway if the windows look out on the colonnade.  It seems to me it is some part of room 40 on the plans, or maybe some rennovated version of rooms 24, 25 or 26.

BobG
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: lilianna on October 31, 2012, 08:44:18 AM
Bob, I think it's the same place. I looked in the book description Yakovlev.
(http://s017.radikal.ru/i439/1210/8f/bfdb7ac2e978t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i439/1210/8f/bfdb7ac2e978.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: lilianna on October 31, 2012, 08:45:53 AM
(http://s45.radikal.ru/i108/1210/37/51842829a1ect.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s45.radikal.ru/i108/1210/37/51842829a1ec.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: lilianna on October 31, 2012, 08:49:03 AM
Do not look at the door. This was done after the war, because the Germans took all the doors for heating.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: lilianna on October 31, 2012, 11:00:38 AM
1. (http://s018.radikal.ru/i502/1210/50/24f0d0d27ac8t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s018.radikal.ru/i502/1210/50/24f0d0d27ac8.jpg.html)
2. (http://s017.radikal.ru/i440/1210/a3/304f88ff417ft.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i440/1210/a3/304f88ff417f.jpg.html)
3.(http://s48.radikal.ru/i121/1210/a9/384b0196d65et.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s48.radikal.ru/i121/1210/a9/384b0196d65e.jpg.html)
4.(http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1210/8f/3cbcffcabc96t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i627/1210/8f/3cbcffcabc96.jpg.html)
5.(http://s017.radikal.ru/i429/1210/43/68d1b2d397e8t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i429/1210/43/68d1b2d397e8.jpg.html)
6.(http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1210/af/e18c4b9dda80t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i627/1210/af/e18c4b9dda80.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on November 03, 2012, 12:12:43 PM
Wonderful photos! Thank you!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Maria the Beautiful on November 03, 2012, 06:43:55 PM
It's quite moving to see these photos of the interiors is so much disrepair.   Thank you lilianna!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: lilianna on November 03, 2012, 10:43:17 PM
I live in Russia, in Moscow, and I understand why it's so bad the interior of the palace.
We fought against the fascists. They occupied the whole of Europe and all countries are working on the Nazi industry against us, USSR. And we have half of the country was occupied and all the plants were in the Urals. They worked only women and children. They were laborers, and made ​​weapons All the men were at war. After our victory had to rebuild the country, and the towns and villages were destroyed, and each building is very valuable. The palace was restored in 1949 and it is done by women, because there were so few men and the recovery was unqualified. Now we hope for a good restoration of the palace.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: pastpalacelife on November 03, 2012, 11:00:18 PM
So Lilianna, what is picture number 6? Thanks for posting these.  I find the pre-restoration pics more interesting, although it is wonderful the palace is being repaired.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: lilianna on November 04, 2012, 10:04:43 AM
This photo has been written * Rooms on the second floor above the main rooms *
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: PIPOCA on November 05, 2012, 01:26:20 PM
???
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Joanna on November 05, 2012, 04:46:58 PM
There are approximately 95 photos of the right wing - 1st and 2nd floors - corridor/rooms connecting the wings on 2nd floor, and playroom that were taken by the local historical group who were given a guided tour of the closed rooms of the AP. Tsarselo.ru is a fantastic site with recent photos of reconstructed White Tower, amongst so much that is a treasure to discover.
http://www.tsarselo.ru/content/10/novosti-g-pushkin-carskogo-sela/fotoreportazh-o-zakrytyh-pomeshenijah-aleksandrovskogo-dvorca-i-planah-ego-rekonstrukcii.html

Photos are interspersed by room etc:
http://www.tsarselo.ru/photos/20/1473

A little disconcerting when trying to decipher location of some rooms as what we have known as right wing, Russians identify as left wing. I am not sure when in English the suites of Nicholas II and Alexandra began to be called left wing as Russian documentation from early 1800s to today designate it as right wing.

To not confuse, this identified Left wing corridor 1st floor is what you may know as Right wing corridor:
http://www.tsarselo.ru/images/photos/a19eb5e86fd69ee3ab86a101ce38effe.jpg

This is the series of photos of playroom:
http://www.tsarselo.ru/photos/20/1692

Joanna
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Joanna on November 06, 2012, 12:48:46 PM
A number of rooms are identifiable by description/number that tsarselo.ru has listed. Others less so. On the series of 2nd floor, this room can be correctly identified as the Corner Drawing Room #52 on the second floor plan:
http://www.tsarselo.ru/images/photos/cf1ba6a2d4e2cd2651590c86477907f4.jpg

Note the wallpaper and compare to this photo from 1934 when the AP was used as a health spa:
http://oldsp.ru/photo/view/20096

It appears same wallpaper style - also in the photo of 1934 you can see the raised platform with settee in the corner - just as indicated in Yakovlev's plan.

Joanna
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: pastpalacelife on November 07, 2012, 07:33:37 PM
This is so exciting!!! Like walking through a time capsule. Thanks Joanne and the Tsarkoe Selo website. Love it!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Cathy on November 10, 2012, 07:26:54 AM
Thank you Joanna for all your valuable information, comprehensive research and providing the links. The Tsarselo.ru web site is fantastic. The pictures are amazing - for me, it is the first time that I have ever seen the right (left in Russia) wing.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on November 13, 2012, 12:45:06 PM
I didn't see a thread that this would fit in, so I'll put it up here.

Joanna pointed me in the direction of this fabulous photo showing the Russian Town and in the upper righthand corner, the AP. Until now, I've never seen an aerial shot of the palace from the front.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/AP%20Exterior%20and%20Park/Vintage%20Exterior/th_54_Russkii_gorodok_s_vertoleta_Na_zadnem_plane_viden_Aleksandrovskii_dvorecc_Foto_1990.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/AP%20Exterior%20and%20Park/Vintage%20Exterior/?action=view&current=54_Russkii_gorodok_s_vertoleta_Na_zadnem_plane_viden_Aleksandrovskii_dvorecc_Foto_1990.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: blessOTMA on November 13, 2012, 07:03:35 PM
Wow! Thank you! Amazing how close the roads are to the Palace on two sides!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sanochka on January 27, 2013, 04:18:42 PM
I hadn't seen Russian Town from this perspective, either.  Being able to see the AP in the background really does make this picture.  Thank you for posting.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on August 13, 2013, 04:22:07 PM
I got this better scan of the Mauve Room and could make out the titles of three of the books in the upper right corner on the bookshelf (my scanner didn't get the third). They all say Baby's Souvenir, so I'm thinking they're probably baby books! How fun would it be to look through those? I wonder if there were two more just not visible on the bookshelf.


(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Mauve%20Room/th_AP_0009_zps9c212795.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Mauve%20Room/AP_0009_zps9c212795.jpg.html) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/For%20Forum/th_babybooks_zpsc6868b49.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/For%20Forum/babybooks_zpsc6868b49.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sarushka on August 14, 2013, 08:24:09 AM
Nice. Where did you find it?
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Forum Admin on August 14, 2013, 09:00:05 AM
The photo is from the Detskoye Selo Museum era (the Faberge is gone, and the things are re arranged a bit.).  Those books are almost certainly "memory books" for one each of the Grand Duchesses.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on August 14, 2013, 02:18:43 PM
Sarushka, it's in The Summer Palaces of the Romanovs: Treasures from Tsarskoye Selo by Emmanuel Decamp.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: EmmyLee on August 16, 2013, 04:27:28 PM
I discovered that there is, apparently, an Alexander Palace Wiki. It had three photos I don't believe I've seen before. The first is of the mezzanine in the Maple Room.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Maple%20Room/th_maplemezzanine_zps3c3f9392.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Maple%20Room/maplemezzanine_zps3c3f9392.jpg.html) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Formal%20Reception%20Room/th_The_Formal_Reception_Room_Alexander_Palace_35_zpsb54f39b6.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Formal%20Reception%20Room/The_Formal_Reception_Room_Alexander_Palace_35_zpsb54f39b6.jpg.html) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Pallisander%20Room/th_pallisanderfireplace_zps02beae84.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Pallisander%20Room/pallisanderfireplace_zps02beae84.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: londo954 on August 17, 2013, 08:55:30 PM
The picture of the mezzanine and amazing!!!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: bongo on March 28, 2014, 10:22:22 AM
Not sure if has been posted before but this Russian documentary on the palaces has vintage 1930s footage of the Alexander Palace: mostly N & A's bedroom with that absolutely hideous curtain & wall fabric. (around the 5 minute mark) But also their toilet. That's the horror of Revolutions. The public gets to probe one's most intimate spaces!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=7eG2lOd7apA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=7eG2lOd7apA)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sanochka on April 27, 2014, 11:58:31 PM
I discovered that there is, apparently, an Alexander Palace Wiki. It had three photos I don't believe I've seen before. The first is of the mezzanine in the Maple Room.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Maple%20Room/th_maplemezzanine_zps3c3f9392.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Maple%20Room/maplemezzanine_zps3c3f9392.jpg.html) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Formal%20Reception%20Room/th_The_Formal_Reception_Room_Alexander_Palace_35_zpsb54f39b6.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Formal%20Reception%20Room/The_Formal_Reception_Room_Alexander_Palace_35_zpsb54f39b6.jpg.html) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Pallisander%20Room/th_pallisanderfireplace_zps02beae84.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/Places/Alexander%20Palace/Pallisander%20Room/pallisanderfireplace_zps02beae84.jpg.html)


Nice photos, EmmyLee.  I wish they were in color, especially the one of the corner of the Formal Reception Room.  The two sculptural vases (one on the round table at center and the other on the console table at right) remind me of Southwestern Indian pottery I've got somewhere around the house.  
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Ortino on January 09, 2016, 05:46:36 PM
I wanted to post these since I didn't see them mentioned/discussed elsewhere (full disclosure: the following two photos are from the Russian Imperial Family website) ...I'm fairly sure that these were taken in the Grand Duchesses' bathroom, which we have thus far seen very little of:

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/10624641_976983509017579_2157026627511145183_n.jpg?oh=99e549ca63eebefc5ed17bac3e8dfa29&oe=56FF3EFE)

(http://www.theromanovfamily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/anastasia.jpg)

According to Yakovlev's description, the bathroom had a stenciled frieze of the sea with sailboats, flowers and plants. One can see elements of this in the photo of Marie. Yakovlev also mentions that there is a table in the middle of the room that records the height and weight of each child. The furniture that can been seen in the photos corresponds with that visible in this watercolor as well:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Alexander%20Palace/GrandDuchessesclassroomwatercolor.jpg)

With this in mind, I think we can finally lay to rest the mystery of where Anastasia took her "selfie"--one can see the same table and chair set reflected in the mirror in the photo with Marie. The shoe, footrests, and linens(?) also all make sense in this context. I also just noticed that to Anastasia's right, one can see the outline of the bar that we know was suspended in the doorway of Olga and Tatiana's bedroom.

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc488/hummingbird-heartbeat/883160-selfie-taken-by-grand-duchess-anastasia-nikolaevna-romanova_zps2934365e.jpg)
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Joanna on July 10, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
Alexei Oreshinkov's wrote in his diary on March 9, 1930, Moscow:

9 марта (24 февраля) 1930 г
Интересен небольшой альбом домашних фотографий, снятых Ольгою или кем-то Царскосельский дворец берёт от нас чемодан с одеждой и другими вещами семьи Николая II, присланный несколько лет назад из Екатеринбурга и найденный в марте нынешнего года под лестницею; приехавшая из Царского, ныне Детского, села проверяла содержимое.

I read this as the suitcase with a small photo album, taken by Olga or someone else in the Alexander Palace, was found under the stairs in Ekaterinburg and sent to Detskoe Selo, and then to Moscow.

Am I correct with the grammar or was the suitcase sent from Tsarskoe to Ekaterinburg and then Moscow?

Joanna
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Inok Nikolai on July 11, 2016, 03:05:51 PM
Alexei Oreshinkov's wrote in his diary on March 9, 1930, Moscow:

9 марта (24 февраля) 1930 г
Интересен небольшой альбом домашних фотографий, снятых Ольгою или кем-то Царскосельский дворец берёт от нас чемодан с одеждой и другими вещами семьи Николая II, присланный несколько лет назад из Екатеринбурга и найденный в марте нынешнего года под лестницею; приехавшая из Царского, ныне Детского, села проверяла содержимое.

I read this as the suitcase with a small photo album, taken by Olga or someone else in the Alexander Palace, was found under the stairs in Ekaterinburg and sent to Detskoe Selo, and then to Moscow.

Am I correct with the grammar or was the suitcase sent from Tsarskoe to Ekaterinburg and then Moscow?

Joanna


What, precisely, is the context of this diary entry?
Is this Oreshnikov the numismatist?

A rather literal translation:

"Interesting is the small album of family photos taken by Olga or by someone else. The Tsarskoe Selo Palace [i.e., someone from there] is taking from us a suitcase with clothes and other belongings of the family of Nicholas II which was sent several years ago from Ekaterinburg, and which in March of this year was found under the staircase [i.e., in Moscow]. The woman who came from Tsarkoe, now Detskoe, [Selo] inspected/verified the contents."

Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Joanna on July 11, 2016, 05:42:40 PM
A. Oreshnikov was an historian and numismatist. He was an employee of the Historical Museum in Moscow and involved in the review of articles and documents from the Imperial palaces received in the Kremlin Armory after the revolution until his death in 1933. His diary entries in 1922, and beyond, are fascinating with details when opening crates.

Joanna
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Inok Nikolai on July 12, 2016, 11:57:29 AM
A. Oreshnikov was an historian and numismatist. He was an employee of the Historical Museum in Moscow and involved in the review of articles and documents from the Imperial palaces received in the Kremlin Armory after the revolution until his death in 1933. His diary entries in 1922, and beyond, are fascinating with details when opening crates.

Joanna

So where can one find the diaries to read?
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Joanna on July 13, 2016, 09:38:15 AM
I have only had time to translate portions of the diary for my Winter Palace research. He is an inspiring man, although heartbreaking to read his navigating the political landscape in the 1920s.

Joanna
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Inok Nikolai on July 13, 2016, 01:18:30 PM
I have only had time to translate portions of the diary for my Winter Palace research. He is an inspiring man, although heartbreaking to read his navigating the political landscape in the 1920s.

Joanna

Fine, but where can one access his original Russian diaries?
Are they on-line anywhere, or only in manuscript form in an archive?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Joanna on July 13, 2016, 07:14:19 PM
It was published 2011 in Moscow in 2 volumes:

А. В. Орешников Дневник 1915-1933

Joanna
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Inok Nikolai on July 14, 2016, 08:46:24 AM
It was published 2011 in Moscow in 2 volumes:

А. В. Орешников Дневник 1915-1933

Joanna

Spasibo!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Joanna on October 19, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
Is the third photo in the following link the Grand Duchess' Bathroom No. 9? Note the transom and small corridor.

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2017/10/imperial-family-photograh-albums.html

Joanna
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Ortino on November 21, 2017, 09:19:16 PM
Is the third photo in the following link the Grand Duchess' Bathroom No. 9? Note the transom and small corridor.

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2017/10/imperial-family-photograh-albums.html

Joanna

I'm pretty sure that this isn't the girls' bathroom--their bathroom had blue walls, a seascape mural painted along the ceiling, and a different layout. I think it could actually be Shura's bedroom--it is described as follows:

"Tegleva's room had walls covered by light yellow cotton cretonne and their was a frieze under the covered ceiling. The furniture of this room was of birch and mahogany. Above Tegleva's bronzed-iron bed were hung ikons. Other paintings on the walls were watercolors by Russian artists, Volkov, Derevenko and others. She also had a hung on the walls photographs of the Imperial family and their yacht "Standart". Her wardrobe in the vestibule of her suite was full of fine clothes left behind when Tegleva left the palace during the summer of 1917. Most servants removed their personal belongings after the Romanov's were exiled to Tobolsk. It doesn't appear that Tegleva did so; her tables were covered with personal effects such as photographs of her fellow employees and the Imperial family that she left behind. Of note was a signed photograph of Grand Duchess Olga and photos of Aleksey and Maria as children. Above the table was a maple cabinet full of small shoes and socks given her as momentos by the children. On Tegleva's writing desk were found photos of Alexandra, Anastasia and other snapshots of the family."(http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/maids.html)




Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: Sanochka on November 22, 2017, 08:20:12 AM
Ortino, your post is illuminating, as well as arresting.  I keep switching back and forth between the description you posted and the photo in question.  The description certainly goes with the photo.  The hand-colored yellow of the walls in an otherwise black & white photo seems to be the clincher. 
Title: Re: Pictures of the Interiors as they were
Post by: gleb on November 22, 2017, 01:49:20 PM
According to me, the room you are talking about can only be room 32 of the plan of the Maid's rooms. All the other rooms which have been mentioned do not match with the photo, looking at the floor plan.