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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Hesse-Darmstadts (Hesse and by Rhine) => Topic started by: MarieCharlotte on April 30, 2006, 08:02:55 AM

Title: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: MarieCharlotte on April 30, 2006, 08:02:55 AM
Mathilde Caroline Friederike Wilhelmine Charlotte Princess of Bavaria was born on August 30th 1813 in Augsburg and died on May 25th 1862 in Darmstadt. She was the eldest daughter of Ludwig I. of Bavaria (1786-1868) and his wife Therese Princess of Saxe-Hildburghausen (1792-1854).
Mathilde married Ludwig III. Grand Duke of Hesse and the Rhine (1806-1877) on December 26th 1833 in Munich.

I'd like to learn more about Princess Mathilde. Does anybody have pictures?
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: grandduchessella on May 01, 2006, 11:36:27 AM
Mathilde

http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/wittelsbach/bavariakings/1813%20Mathilde.JPG

Her grave in the Ludwig-Kirche (I think this is a Catholic church)

http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-countries/germany/darmstadt/ludwigskirche/1813%20Mathilde.JPG

http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-countries/germany/darmstadt/ludwigskirche/Ludwigskirche.JPG

Ludwig

http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/hessen/hessendarmstadt2/1806%20Ludwig-01.JPG

He's buried in the Old Mausoleum, Rosenhöhe, Darmstadt.
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: rita on May 01, 2006, 11:52:08 AM
The St. Ludwigskirche is a catholic church, the first catholic church in Darmstadt who was built after the reformation. It was built 1822 - 1827 by Georg Moller. In 1944 it was destroyed and in the last year the renovation was finished. Now it is a church with  an own charisma.
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: Linnea on June 05, 2006, 11:05:13 AM
For those of you interested in Mathilde, here is a book about her life: http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3792902044/qid=1149523406/sr=8-5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl/302-4801920-9847232
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: MarieCharlotte on June 05, 2006, 01:04:25 PM
Thank you so much for mentioning, Linnechen.  ;)

Paola told me about this book but she couldn't remember its author and exact title. I've just ordered a copy and I'm really happy about it.  :)
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: Linnea on June 06, 2006, 01:45:44 PM
You are welcome, my dear. :)
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: MarieCharlotte on June 10, 2006, 08:52:44 AM
Mathilde and most of her siblings had really nice nicknames ...  ;)

Princess Mathilde - Thilde / Thildchen
Prince Luitpold - Poldi / Polderl
Princess Adelgunde - Duni
Princess Hildegard - Hildchen
Princess Alexandra - Zandi
Prince Adalbert - Berti
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: Linnea on June 11, 2006, 05:09:19 AM
Oh, some of these nicknames sounds like good old Bavarian ones - but some are rather "Prussian" like e.g. Tildchen. ;)
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on March 10, 2010, 10:21:46 AM
(http://www.slideshine.de/browser/uploads/96/Liste%20bekannter%20Kurgäste%20in%20Bad%20Kissingen/Mathilde-Bayern.jpg)

one of the rare photographs of Grand Duchess Mathilde - it was taken shortly before she died.
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: MarieCharlotte on March 11, 2010, 01:25:30 AM
Thomas_Hesse, unfortunately I can't see the picture. Would you be so kind and post it again'? Thanks.
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on August 14, 2010, 01:15:03 PM

The dowry of Princess Mathilde of Bavaria

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_sblfejvo4ew/S1TVsZ8k2QI/AAAAAAAAAnY/OiVzu_WsF7I/s400/IMG_0002.jpg)
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: violetta on September 21, 2010, 05:46:40 PM
What was she famous for? What was she like as   a landsmutter?
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on September 22, 2010, 09:41:08 AM
She was an exception in the long history of the Hesse-Darmstadt Royal family in that she was a) the only catholic "First Lady" in the lineage and b) remained childless.
She was greatly loved and especially embraced the catholic perish.
Darmstadt's most famous cultural heritage bears her name: Mathildenhöhe
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: violetta on September 22, 2010, 10:50:53 AM
Thomas, why does Mathildehohe bear her name? I guess she is buried there. bUt who came up with  the idea of giving her name to this place?

by the way, mathildehohe is a beautiful and to some extent a unique place because the Hessians manage to create a combination of the royal cemetary and a beautiful park. I have to admit that I love visiting cemetaries, especially the old ones, because while walking through the cemetary one get obtain a lot of historical information that you can`t find in books. Also, the way that people buried the members of their families, inscriptions on graves or monuments reflect people`s way of life, their attitude twards life and death etc.
as for matildehohe, the fact that a beautiful garden is so close to the cemetary does not seem to discourage numerous visitors. I love sitting and reading in the garden which is abslutely stunning!!!!! the arrangement of plants and flowers creates a wonderful picture!
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: Rani on September 22, 2010, 04:10:11 PM
(http://www.slideshine.de/browser/uploads/96/Liste%20bekannter%20Kurgäste%20in%20Bad%20Kissingen/Mathilde-Bayern.jpg)

one of the rare photographs of Grand Duchess Mathilde - it was taken shortly before she died.

http://www.hadis.hessen.de/hadis-eLink/HStAD/R%204/4277.JPG

http://www.hadis.hessen.de/hadis-eLink/HStAD/D%2027%20A/45_46.JPG

http://www.hadis.hessen.de/hadis-eLink/HStAD/D%2027%20B/120.JPG

http://www.hadis.hessen.de/hadis-eLink/HStAD/D%2027%20B/119.JPG

Found these
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on September 22, 2010, 05:29:39 PM
Thomas, why does Mathildehohe bear her name? I guess she is buried there. bUt who came up with  the idea of giving her name to this place?

by the way, mathildehohe is a beautiful and to some extent a unique place because the Hessians manage to create a combination of the royal cemetary and a beautiful park. I have to admit that I love visiting cemetaries, especially the old ones, because while walking through the cemetary one get obtain a lot of historical information that you can`t find in books. Also, the way that people buried the members of their families, inscriptions on graves or monuments reflect people`s way of life, their attitude twards life and death etc.
as for matildehohe, the fact that a beautiful garden is so close to the cemetary does not seem to discourage numerous visitors. I love sitting and reading in the garden which is abslutely stunning!!!!! the arrangement of plants and flowers creates a wonderful picture!

You mean Rosenhöhe -
Mathildenhöhe is more western. Originally there was a wine yard which was created in an English style park in about 1800. When the Hereditary Grand Duke was married to Mathilde of Bavaria they were presented with that very park whose name was changed in honor of the bride from Busenberg into Mathildenhöhe
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: violetta on September 22, 2010, 06:02:03 PM
Thomas, why does Mathildehohe bear her name? I guess she is buried there. bUt who came up with  the idea of giving her name to this place?

by the way, mathildehohe is a beautiful and to some extent a unique place because the Hessians manage to create a combination of the royal cemetary and a beautiful park. I have to admit that I love visiting cemetaries, especially the old ones, because while walking through the cemetary one get obtain a lot of historical information that you can`t find in books. Also, the way that people buried the members of their families, inscriptions on graves or monuments reflect people`s way of life, their attitude twards life and death etc.
as for matildehohe, the fact that a beautiful garden is so close to the cemetary does not seem to discourage numerous visitors. I love sitting and reading in the garden which is abslutely stunning!!!!! the arrangement of plants and flowers creates a wonderful picture!

You mean Rosenhöhe -
Mathildenhöhe is more western. Originally there was a wine yard which was created in an English style park in about 1800. When the Hereditary Grand Duke was married to Mathilde of Bavaria they were presented with that very park whose name was changed in honor of the bride from Busenberg into Mathildenhöhe


I mixed up the two but I`ve been to Mathidenhohe, too, of course :).actually love-struck husbans often named palaces or places in honor of their wives e.g.  Peter I named the Kadriorg palace in Tallinn in honor  of his wife Catherine Alexeevna.
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: Riedesel on September 23, 2010, 01:55:42 AM
There is also a Mathildenplatz (square) in Darmstadt.
However, against ones expectation, there is no memorial to Mathilde there.
Like the memorial on the Luisenplatz is for Ludewig and the memorial on the Ludwigsplatz is for Bismarck.

I think the 'Heiners' find this amusing.
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: MarieCharlotte on September 24, 2010, 07:35:25 AM
Why does Mathildehohe bear her name? I guess she is buried there. bUt who came up with  the idea of giving her name to this place?

Mathilde is buried in the church of St. Ludwig at Darmstadt.

I guess that Mathildenhöhe was named after Mathilde, because she was the hereditary princess of Hesse and it was quite common to give a special place the name of a member of the ruling family. In 1830 a nice little park at a small hill in the south of the Stadtschloss (castle) was named after Mathilde.

Did you know that Mathildenterrasse at Mainz bears her name, too?
Title: Re: Mathilde von Bayern, Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt
Post by: violetta on January 03, 2011, 06:21:22 AM
(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/mathildehoheca1908.png)

mathildehohe around 1908