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Title: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Tania+ on June 04, 2006, 09:40:46 PM
[size=10]I have moved this item over to a new folder, wanting to gain a general reaction from both members, as well as guests. Please respond to the poll yes or no, and give a short response of why you think yes, or no.

My views: I'm somewhat confused that some may find using the word value of commies instead of communist. Whether a person refers to the communists as communists, or commies, what is the descripency ?  Is there one ?
 
In Russia, I am sure they have short names that they use for us here in the west. For years, the press, the news agencies here in the United States, and in most western countries have referred to the communists as 'commies'.

I'm confused when a member of the AP Board has stated, the term is used as deragatory term, and or is out of place. On this website, this is not the first time that this word has been used in descriptive address.  
 
I wonder how many others feel that this term is contrary to this board's use ?
Is the FA upset with the usage of this word ?
 
Just my 2 kopeks !

Tatiana+[/size]
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Robert_Hall on June 04, 2006, 09:50:20 PM
I will not be Red Baited by you, Tania, So  PM me  as i have asked if you have an issue. McCarthyism is old hat.
 Robert
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Tania+ on June 04, 2006, 11:29:36 PM
[size=10]First of all Robert_Hall, if you think I would waste my thoughts, or my energy in 'red baiting' you or anyone, you don't know me at all. I am not here to label, nor try McCarthyism at all. That never entered my mind. I am entitled to communicate to the forum as I wish, as you do freely also.

I simply have asked a question I thought needed an answer. Why is it you can tell someone on the forum not to use the term, and I am banned in your estimation to making inquiry at all.

That does not make sense at all, and is anything but reasonable.

I have no issue with you period, so let's not work at making anything an issue, please !
Thank you.

Tatiana+[/size]
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Robert_Hall on June 04, 2006, 11:41:19 PM
As this is a blatantly political isuue, I resperctfully ask the FA to close and delete the thread.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: David_Pritchard on June 05, 2006, 01:26:08 AM
Dear Tatiana and Robert,

Personally, I never refer to the Communists as Commies because I do not like shortened names but as much as I do not like writting the words phone, photo and plane, I would never tell anyone that they could not write them unless I was teaching them the English language.

Let us allow the people of this forum to decide the fate of the word Commie in the poll.

David
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Belochka on June 05, 2006, 02:28:47 AM
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As this is a blatantly political isuue, I resperctfully ask the FA to close and delete the thread.

[size=10]Robert,

Should not the forum determine the outcome of this poll?

Not a few topics on this forum have political content, therefore there is no need to single this one out created by Tatiana is there?

Thank you,

Margarita[/size]
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Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Elisabeth on June 05, 2006, 10:54:01 AM
Dorogaia i uvazhaemaia Tania, I think there are certain derogatory connotations to the term "Commie" in the English language, which might not be familiar to a non-native speaker of English. Perhaps this seems unfair, since historically the Communists have been every bit as bad as rulers as the National Socialists, who are always referred to by the shortened form of their own name, "Nazis." But in the English language there are particular nuances of meaning and association which brand people who use the term "Commie" as generally uneducated and/or of the extreme right-wing persuasion (e.g., "rednecks" or members of the John Birch Society). To put it simply, if you use the term "Commie" in polite conversation most native-born Americans will look at you somewhat askance, as if you were a little strange. This is mainly because the word "Commie" does indeed evoke memories of the McCarthy era, when it was bandied about too freely and used as an excuse to destroy far too many innocent lives.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Sarushka on June 05, 2006, 12:25:30 PM
I agree with Elisabeth. However, I didn't participate in the poll itself, because this question has mixed answers for me, as you'll see below. As Elisabeth said, the use of "commie" generally has negative connotations for speakers of US English, particularly those who lived through or are familiar with the McCarthy era.

In my own idiolect (meaning the particular speech of an individual -- in this case, me) there are 2 instances when "commie" doesn't have a negative meaning:
1. I occasionally shorten 'communist' to 'commie' when I'm speaking with friends who understand both my political views and my sometimes glib style of speech, and would therefore realize my use of the word is an instance of laziness, not insult. (I suspect this is exactly the sort of shortened vocabulary that tries David's patience! ;) My apologies, David!)

2. I work for a woman who is very liberal politically. In jest I occasionally call her a "commie," simply to accentuate the vast gap between her position on the conservative/liberal continuum and that of the Bush administration.  ;D


Here's a similar issue: What sort of connotations does the word "Bolshie" have for most people? To me, it can go both ways. I've seen Bolshevik sympathizers use it almost affectionately, and I've also seen used as a derrogatory term.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: LisaDavidson on June 05, 2006, 02:06:02 PM
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I will not be Red Baited by you, Tania, So stuff it and PM me  as i have asked if you have an issue. McCarthyism is old hat.
 Robert

Robert - I understand that this issue may be a sensitive one for you. I don't think that Tania is baiting you, I think she genuinely wants to know if this is a derogatory term or not. You have really given her your answer - you do.

However, you are out of line in telling her to stuff it. Kindly remove this from your post as it is not worthy of you.

I am the Moderator of this Forum and am allowing the question. I am asking that you take your differences with Tania off this board and settle it privately. Please feel free to seek the help of the GA, FA, or myself in resolving whatever is bothering you.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Robert_Hall on June 05, 2006, 02:36:19 PM
Yes, Lisa. "stuff it" may be a bit out of line and I have removed the words from my post.  I have also asked Tania via pm to deal with our differences, she choose to post this thread which I feel is delibertly contentious. Clarification of the term has been pointed out quite clearly. Continued use of it is inappropriate in my opinion.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Belochka on June 05, 2006, 08:12:51 PM
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Dorogaia i uvazhaemaia Tania, I think there are certain derogatory connotations to the term "Commie" in the English language, which might not be familiar to a non-native speaker of English. Perhaps this seems unfair, since historically the Communists have been every bit as bad as rulers as the National Socialists, who are always referred to by the shortened form of their own name, "Nazis." But in the English language there are particular nuances of meaning and association which brand people who use the term "Commie" as generally uneducated and/or of the extreme right-wing persuasion (e.g., "rednecks" or members of the John Birch Society). To put it simply, if you use the term "Commie" in polite conversation most native-born Americans will look at you somewhat askance, as if you were a little strange. This is mainly because the word "Commie" does indeed evoke memories of the McCarthy era, when it was bandied about too freely and used as an excuse to destroy far too many innocent lives.


[size=10]Accepting Elizabeth's excellent comments here, living across the vast pond, the two diminutives "commie" or "bolshie" are not broadly used here to my knowledge. A "communist" is a communist while the lesser heard defintion: "bolshevik" is more commonly heard within academic circles.

I like David here, prefer to avoid using diminutives. One reason has been clearly demonstrated here. Different cultures/upbringing may be offended by the specific use of a diminutive. The "foreign" speaker may be completely oblivious to the fact that they make be causing offence, whether it may be political, social or by other factors.

Margarita[/size]
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Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: RichC on June 05, 2006, 11:30:43 PM
I have not heard the term "commies" used in a long time.  There don't seem to be very many countries left in the world today that espouse communism, so the term "commies" seems to have lost its significance for most people.  I think I recall Hillary Clinton being labeled a "commie" when she tried to launch a national health-care system in the United States.  I think that's about the last time...

I wouldn't use it because I associate it with people who are uneducated and just stupid or ignorant.  

There's another dimension to this.  Many Americans who used the word "commie" many years ago used it not only to refer to communists but also Russians.  The Russians; the commies; they were one and the same to most Americans.  
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Tania+ on June 06, 2006, 05:11:35 PM
First Part:
Lisa, I can't say thank you enough, for the AP Website, here in our time. From the history of Russia before, to the Russian Revolution, [and after] to understanding in depth of it's leadership, past to present, to that of the AP Members; we have and continue to share in learning much, no matter what our ages. Even better, we are offered understandings from actual personal stories, pictures and feelings of similar and like stories of varying issues on these many threads. I don't know where anyone could be involved in a better educative environment, immersing oneself totally history. There is no comparison, outside of living through it all. Sometimes, living through history, can be beyond words...While many of us are out of school, there are countless ages, globally entering this website, taking in all it continuously offers. We are not related, nor in anyone's employment, but remain a global community, invested in truth and ongoing education. It is exciting to be sure. Many these threads state many things, and as we continually see, for many they hold an opposite viewpoint. But I don't seriously think people are here to purposely cause disagreement or disputes. We are it seems, human hearts with differing views. This is natural, and would not be unusual if it did not transpire. It should be taken into consideration, that many youth never lived through any sort of these experiences, much less here or there in various places on the globe where stories emerged about specific historical incidences. It goes without saying, that many adults never actually lived where these incidences took place either. News stories may have carried, and on the radio, but many times, it is not the same.
I lived here, in the South, when the McCarthy trials were raging. It was a terrible time here in the United States. Many lives were forever turned upside down, with finger pointing, and people actually loosing their livelihood. Yes it affected their families, their children. Not only were there names brought to view in newspapers, on the radio, but in everyday life. Their lives came to a virtual standstill. Just think of being called "commie". It is a word that is more than deragatory. For For many who were called this name, it was to feel shame, sorrow, actually loss of self. How do I know, because as a child, I was called by my fellow playmates, and schoolchums, 'a commie'. My father was Russian, but for those who knew nothing, nor wished to educate themselves about Russians, anywhere, [including émigrés] we remained if you will, almost with labels across our foreheads, as 'enemies of the state'! My father had fled from the communists, lost his family to the communists, and came here, only to have his child labeled 'a commie' ? It took me years to get used to my name, 'Tatiana', and years more for me to say proudly, I was part Russian. People not only made fun of me because of my heritage, but because I had a funny name, that was for many more than difficult to pronounce. So, some just called me 'titanic' and laughed, or 'titianna' and laughed even harder. I became so overwhelmed by how people viewed me, and gossiped [and I was only a child] that I wanted to just disappear, anywhere but where I was. In those days, they did not have the availability of counselors, and nobody but nobody, ever thought that children would bear such indignities far after these issues had passed. If you were an émigré, or child of émigrés, then they would tell you to get over it, forget it, don't associate with anyone like this. But they did not know, that in the South at that time, everyone there more or less had those views, including their own children!
 
It is why in the last few days, I bothered to re-live the term, and find out from you the members, and guests, did people everywhere still feel the same way, of those I had grown up with in the South? I have gone back to read and re read what many of you have offered. It is why I was really startled by the reaction of Robert. I was not here to red bait you Robert, or anyone. After you have read what I have shared above, I hope you and other readers understand me better. I am glad David, and Belochka asked for the forum to decide the fate of the Commie in the poll, etc. It is true, many of the threads have political content, and this one need not be singled out over all the others. Sometimes it is important to hold back our feelings, and see a thread through before we jump to the wrong conclusions.
 
Closing this thread would have taken away understanding that, there were actual people here on this board who faced these awful remarks, living through them, children as well. I agree also, that those who are not fully educated, or are possessed by those of extreme right-wing persuasion. They perhaps, are the ones who would most use this affrontive address. I thank Elizabeth for her post, because as she stated at the end of her post, "The word "Commie' does indeed evoke memories of the McCarthy era, when it was bandied about too freely and used an excuse to destroy far too many innocent lives."

Continued Next pg.
 
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Tania+ on June 06, 2006, 05:14:35 PM
Second Part - Continued:

Sarushka also shares that for her, 'there are [2] two instances when 'commie' doesn't have a negative meaning'. and she quotes them above.

So again, it is agreed, for many including Robert, it indeed is a sensitive issue, as it was/is for me. But Lisa and Rob are the ones I usually turn to, to gain advice, and get the yay, or nay from, because it is the forum they know in depth, and they make the ultimate decision .

Elizabeth has pointed out, that cultures/upbringing may be offended by the specific use of a diminutive. She points out that someone not born in a given environment as such, may be completely oblivious to the fact that they may be causing offence, in any vein, political, social, or some other factor.

Margarita, agreed and added her concerns as well. I can't agree more !

Rich has pointed out finally, that eons have passed, and the term 'commie' has not been heard, and may have lost it's significance for most people. He even points out that he remembers reading somewhere when Hillary Clinton was trying to launch a national health-care system in the United States, she was labeled 'a commie', and that's probably the last time he heard the label used.

But the clincher for me again, was the reminder to me personally, and validated all that I have shared with you above in this post. Rich said : Quote : Many Americans who used the word 'commie' many years ago used it not only to refer to communists but also Russians. The Russians; the commies; they were one and the same to most Americans." End Quote.

So while for many this should be buried and forgot, for many it is not exactly over, is it?

But what is important, is that we discuss squarely, fairly what ever it is that has created distrust, and harmed lives unnecessarily. We need not sweep it under the carpet, and wish it away. That it caused disputes in the past, and by its very emergence in just passing threads, it is something that was real, and tragic in our time history.

This is why I think it is important when we see something that needs to be addressed, fully understood by everyone, including our youth, it should be followed through. I believe it is why Lisa allowed this thread to continue and did not lock it, and I am thankful that she was kind enough to let it live.
 
Tatiana+
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Ivan Komarov on June 08, 2006, 03:01:00 PM
I figure it's my time to put in a kopek for your thoughts.

I, for one, get called 'commie' all the time, primarily because of my nationality, and partially because of my style (then again, the name Komarov might lend itself to this somewhat); in fact, I somewhat have adopted it as a nickname at the various schools I've attended here in the United States.  So although to some it's derogatory and offensive, others find it rather funny, and still more most likely ignore it.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: ferngully on August 08, 2006, 08:26:02 AM
i don't think its considered an insult anymore. on the IMDB, white nationalists call everyone else commies all the time. its meant to be nasty but its just a word nobody uses to hurt anymore
selina                     xxxxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: AGRBear on August 09, 2006, 11:34:25 AM
Since I grew up in a anti-Bolshvik, who renamed themselves communist,  family,  I viewed the term just as it was meant to be when it was created.  To us, anyone who was a Communists was the enemy of anyone who believed in people rights and freedoms.  The useage of "Commie" was just a shorted version of Communist whom we viewed as "terrorists" who had taken contol of Russia.  There were other terms such as "Red",  "Pinko",  and other nicknames used. 

With the fall of the Berlin wall and the end of the Cold War as well as the changing governments of the various Russian states,  the knowledge  of  what communism is and the various derogatory terms which surround the Communists have faded.

The English lanuage is always changing.  The younger generations aren't concern with the older generations English because they are driven to make their own mark in this world.

So,  if I use the word "Commie",  I doubt they would understand I was being derogatory and referring to  Communists who's position on my "Dislike Ladder" is at the top.

My dislike is very political.

To add to this,  my dislike toward Bolsheviks/Communists is also quite personal.  I have very vew family members who survived in Russia under the rule of Bolshevik/Communist.  Their deaths was rarely from natural causes. Some were shot because they were who and what they were.  Some were sent to camps in Siberia and i know of only one who was ever heard from again.  Some starved because there was a law which forbid Russians to fed "Kulacks", who were considered "enemies of the Russian people"....  Some were tracked down by GPU and KGB here in the USA and murdered.

As I've grown older and wiser,  I realize a person should  judge people as individuals.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  I've even realized that  being a communist doesn't mean an individual approves of what the Old Regime did or continues to do.  In growing more tolerate,  my world of understanding individuals helps me to understand the different people in this world.  This doesn't mean I don't have some great discussion about why "communism will never work" and that our form of govt. here in the USA may be flawed but it's the best around.

Perhaps my post will provide information which the younger generation is not aware.

AGRBear
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: AGRBear on August 09, 2006, 11:43:37 AM
Forgot to add my THANK YOUs to Lisa, who has been level headed and even handed with ALL of us.

AGRBear
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Robert_Hall on August 09, 2006, 04:06:51 PM
I still find the term derogatory and see it as meant to be exactly that. For those of you who preach on a supposedly moral highground, you might respect the feelings of others, even if you disagree.
 There are a few words that come to mind to describe Anti-communists, but would not be used in this forum without censure.
 The English language has not changed that much nor that fast.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Louis_Charles on August 09, 2006, 07:56:53 PM
I grew up the descendant of Irish immigrants. My people suffered under British oppression for hundreds of years. Am I within my rights on this forum to refer to the British as "limeys"? And even if I am --- which I doubt --- common good manners would prevent me from doing so.

The word "Commie" was used as a derogatory term in the 1950s. The word "Pinko" was not used in reference to Russian or Chinese communists, but as a descriptor for left-leaning Americans. And it was not used by the left-leaning Americans to describe themselves, but by tabloids and sensational journalists.

I mean this as respectfully as possible. I am within the age range of several posters who describe themselves as "elders" attempting to impart wisdom to the young. If you intend to do this, please be aware that even our generation is not monolithic in its' experiences or its' understanding of them. And while yes, the English language does change, it doesn't mean that all of it changes --- words that were charged with negative meanings fifty years ago still have the power to wound or disparage. Ask an African American.

I have several colleagues who were blacklisted by the charge of being a "pinko" or a "Commie", and I am uncomfortable with their usage. I recognize that I can't stop it, but please try and understand that there is another point of view in this matter.



Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Paul on August 24, 2006, 09:53:29 AM
Does the term "commie" really evoke much negative conotation anymore? It strikes me as an anarchronism- a relic of an age long dead.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Richard_Cullen on August 27, 2006, 02:10:10 PM
I am afraid I can see little differnce in using 'commie' rather than communist it is the same as saying 'tory' for conservative. All we need to so is be aware that some peopel find it offensive so why not say communist?

Richard
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: LisaDavidson on August 27, 2006, 05:09:51 PM
Why, indeed? Easier to simply use the non offending term.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: stacey on October 03, 2006, 07:11:12 PM
Seems I'm getting to this discussion a bit late!  :o

I did want to add my two kopecks' worth, tho. (Love that term BTW!!) Yes, I do think that most people use the term "commie" in a negative way--but then again, here in the US most people also use the word "communist" in a negative way! For whatever political or social or economic reasons, the majority of Americans have never found the communist system of government appealing. (Which is why some far-right people will label a Hillary Clinton a "communist"--she may not be a conservative but she is certainly no communist!! It was intended as a slur and an insult to her politics.)

And true, one of the reasons probably that communism never gained much of a following in this country is that a lot of "Red-Baiting" did occur, especially during the McCarthy Era. Let me just add that I think that Senator McCarthy was a despicable individual who only brought shame on the United States Senate--I am thoroughly ashamed to call him an American!! And his fellow witch-hunters were no better than he was!!

I just don't like any form of government that oppresses its citizens and deprives them of their fundamental rights. I don't care if they're called Communist, or Nazi, fascist, whatever--I like my freedoms! Still, I think that part of those freedoms means that every person is entitled to support whatever form of government they find most congenial---as long as we're all allowed the same right! I don't believe in "persecuting" people just because they come from a different background!

And Tania--your post made me so sad. I am a Southerner, and I want to apologize to you on behalf of all Southerners for the shameful way you and your family were treated here. It was cruel and mean and wrong and it never should have happened. I think that your name, Tatiana, is one of the most beautiful names I have ever heard (I'm not just saying that to be "nice" either--I love your name!) and please, don't ever feel ashamed of your heritage! Russia is a beautiful land and the Russians are fascinating people--this board would not even exist if so many people were not interested in Russia and the Russian people!!  :)
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Tania+ on October 03, 2006, 08:31:08 PM
Hi Stacey,

Is that a picture of you. It adorable! You know through the ages, people love to label people with diffeent types of names. But the heart of the matter, is to treat people with that of which allows all consideration possible. I of course don't lean towards the governing of communism, nor would I support it either. It's not my cup of tea. Slurs and insults do run rampant in politics don't they. If that is what they think helps to get out the vote, then it really besmirches what the real process of elections stand for.

I remember the Mcarthy hearings, and they were very vocal, and Joseph McArthy the loudest amongst all. As you can guess, he is not my cup of tea either. I work as a citified connect in and for the citizens of my city, and equal rights, disabled rights, victims rights, is something we fight for round the clock. I have for over 30 years of my life on these issues.

Though I grew up in the South, there are very wonderful memories I have of being there, and of course things one does not wish to remember at all. It should not happen to any citizen, or any visitor here through out the United States. Equal laws must prevail.
The south is a beautiful region and the people, well some have been wonderful. People are people wherever you go. All you can do is be yourself and bring your best manners always with you and open up your heart.

It took me a long time, in fact years to get used to my name, because people were so demeaning. It was only into my middle or late 20's that I started to really use my legal name. As to my being ashamed of my heritage, I am far from being ashamed. The name alone of Prince/Count/Field Marshal Suvorov is as well known throughout Russia, as the name of Washington, or Kennedy is known here. It is the least I can offer my daughter in terms of valuing family heritage. The communists may have done many things, but they cannot erase the historical figure he was to people globally.

Thank you again for your kind response, and thank you for your kind Southern approach. :) God Bless !

Tatiana+
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Helen_Azar on October 04, 2006, 07:49:32 AM
Hi Stacey,

Is that a picture of you. It adorable!

Tania, if you are referring to stacey's avatar, that's Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova, the youngest daughter of the last Russian Tsar, Nicholas II.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Tania+ on October 04, 2006, 10:23:29 AM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Eddie_uk on September 06, 2007, 03:41:56 PM
Interesting comments Yuri!!

I don't approve of Communism either (imagine not having any of those spectacular palaces!!) but it does differ greatly.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: LisaDavidson on September 06, 2007, 04:31:43 PM
The best word for calling a Communist is:

"PIG"

I hope we got Cuba destroyed soon, I would like to see that boring communist musician Silvio Rodriguez dead and all the leftists supporters of marxism, killing them is not a crime, is an act of justice and liberation!!

While I certainly don't like Communism as a system of government, I greatly dislike name calling. It's rude and uncivilized. Yuri Davidovich, no name calling on this Forum.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Robert_Hall on September 06, 2007, 05:17:37 PM
What is even worse, imo, ids calling murder justified and an act of "liberation".  Disgusting post.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Tania+ on September 06, 2007, 06:31:14 PM
While individually we may not be in agreement on certain issues, etc., it is uncalled for anywhere, to actually call for 'killing' of any human being, known or unknown. Name calling is also uncalled for. Whatever you do, please do not continue to share such views as you have to date. I am in agreement with Lisa, and Robert Hall. If you are angered, keep your thoughts to yourself, please, or consult a greif counselor.

Tatiana+
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Eddie_uk on September 08, 2007, 02:54:12 AM
Am interested to know, could Nelson Mandela been called a communist? He leaves a nasty taste in my mouth for some of his antics but i'm sure he was labelled as one at one time.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: dmitri on September 08, 2007, 11:50:46 AM
Labelling somebody in such a manner usually has a negative connotation. It is hardly a compliment.
Title: Re: Poll: Deragatory To Call Communists "Commies"?
Post by: Tania+ on September 27, 2007, 10:38:05 AM
Thank you Dimitri. It is deragatory to say the least. You can imagine how I felt at nine years of age and younge being called that name.

Tatiana+