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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => French Royals => Topic started by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 09:57:12 AM

Title: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 09:57:12 AM
I have no affection at all for Marie Louise....  :(

But as wife of Napoleon I and mother of the charming and tragic NapoleonII, she deserves a thread.... ::)

It is interesting that this plain Archduchess who would have probably married an archduke and would have been another unknown and insignificant Archduchess, pass to history because of the man she abandonned.

I have the impression that she was cold heart, Napoleon used to say that she did not love her son, for she was not a very affectionate mother, I believe she did not like to carry him. Something amazing also is the fact taht she NEVER ask for her aunt Marie Antoinette, she never ask where her aunt`s corpse was....

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/marielouise3.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/marielouise3.jpg)

AT HER ARRIVAL AT COMPIEGNE

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/marielouiseacompiegne.jpg)

OFFICIAL PORTRAITS:

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/marielouiseparGerard.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/marielouise2.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 09:59:33 AM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/marielouise.jpg)


OLDER AS DUCHESS OF PARMA:

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/marielouiseduchessedeparme.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 01:50:36 PM
This is the Diamond necklace she is wearing on the official portrait.... it is very beautiful!!!!
It was a gift fron napoleon!!!

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/marielouisecollier.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 02:11:30 PM
I like this one, she looks so fresh and blooming, I imagine that freshness is what Napoleon liked the most!

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/marielouise4.jpg)


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/marielouise7.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 02:22:23 PM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/franchroayl.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: britt.25 on June 08, 2006, 02:22:42 PM
Yes I have once read in my books about Napoleon that he had said: "Nothing goes over German and austrian women, they are fresh like the roses!"

 I think he meant Marie Louise with this! ;)


Son of Marie Louise (and Neipperg):

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/Inv-292.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: britt.25 on June 08, 2006, 02:31:20 PM
children of Albertina Sanvitale (daughter of Marie Louise and Neipperg):


= Grandsons of Marie Louise



(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/Inv-296.jpg)


The older one later a son, Giovanni Sanvitale, who died around the End of the Second World War or  abit later (I have to look up the dates again... :-X)
With him the Sanivitale -Line of Albertine died out.



Daughter Albertine:



(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/Inv-286.jpg)



(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/Allbertina.jpg)



There is an interesting link about a museum concerning the Sanvitale-counts, I have to look up this again!
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: britt.25 on June 08, 2006, 02:35:48 PM
children of Albertina Sanvitale (daughter of Marie Louise and Neipperg):


= Grandsons of Marie Louise



(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/Inv-296.jpg)



Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 02:38:16 PM
Another interesting fact, is that when she gave birth to Napoleon II the doctor siad that it was most likely to be the only child the couple would have, since the labor was difficult!!!
However she had three chldren form Neipperg!!!! :o

Albertine, Countess of Montenuovo (1817-1867, married Luigi, Count di Fontanellato) and Wilhelm Albrecht, Count of Montenuovo, later created Prince of Montenuovo (1819-1895, married Countess Juliana Batthyány von Némét-Ujvár). Marie-Louise and Neipperg also had a second daughter, Mathilde, Countess of Montenuovo, in 1822.

I wonder what kind of a mother she was to those children??she was probably a better mother than with poor Reichtstadt, I read a couple of years ago a biography on Napoleon II and the author emphasized onthe fact that when she was visiting her son in Vienna she was always in a rush to live to the tranquility of Parma and the arms of her lover/husband and to her Montenuovo`s children!!!!

Albertine was born on May 1 1817
she married Luigi Count di Fontanellato in October 1833
they had 4 kids:

Albert born in 1834
Marie 1836
Stephan 1838
Luise ?

Whilhem born in 1819
he married Juliana Batthyány
and had three children:

Albertine  1854
Alfred 1854
Maria Sophia 1859

Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 02:44:44 PM
Quote
Yes I have once read in my books about Napoleon that he had said: "Nothing goes over German and austrian women, they are fresh like the roses!"

 I think he meant Marie Louise with this! ;)


Son of Marie Louise (and Neipperg):

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/Inv-292.jpg)

Dear Britt:

thank you for the wonderful portrait, they are quite rare to find!!! thanks! ;)

I like this portrait of the boy.... but I still prefer Reichstadt!!!! ;D
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: polignac on June 08, 2006, 03:57:59 PM
«she NEVER ask for her aunt Marie Antoinette, she never ask where her aunt`s corpse was....»...Maybe because her father, the Emperor Francis II, advised her to not open old wounds. Many of the french that at the Napoleon's Empire were powerfull mens, in Marie Antoinette's time weren't. People didn't liked Marie Antoinette, an austrian Archduchess, and Marie Louise was also austrian. She needed to demonstrate to the french people that she wouldn't advice Napoleon to restore the Monarchy...
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yseult on June 08, 2006, 05:04:12 PM
More portraits to illustrate this interesting thread ;)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/vanozzacatanei/MariaLouisa.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/vanozzacatanei/MarieLouiseandherson.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/vanozzacatanei/MariaLuisawithherkingofRome.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 05:06:56 PM
Dear POlignac it is possible that as you said her father warned her not to make any question, but in maybe in private she might have tried to know some information on her aunt!

Anyways, here is the complete rubis parrure she wears in one of her official portrait:

ENJOY!!

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/rubis.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/rubis2.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/tiara.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/couronne.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 05:14:56 PM
I have a picture of the bracelet somewhere I have to look for it!
 This parrure was returned after the Restoration to Louis XVIII who had it remodelled for the Duchesse d Angouleme. In this portrait she is waering the necklace and bracelets. (sorry for the poor quality)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/mariatheresafrance.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 08, 2006, 05:21:24 PM
here they are:::::

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/00127725349.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: britt.25 on June 09, 2006, 04:13:15 AM
I must say, Sissi, your pictures from the jewels are always so fantastic!!!! :D :D

I have never seen them sooo clear and so near and so big! ;)


In the library of my hometown I have seen a book on Marie Louise and Napoleon, but until now as I have always to much to read for the university, I did not have the time to read it.

But I have shortly read in that book that she must have had a better and closer relationship to her Neipperg-children. There was for example described the marriage of her daughter Albertina und she was very unhappy when the young woman went away to marry, there are interesting letters to prove this and so on. I can tell me, when I have read the book...

You told she had a second daughter, Mathilde? Did she not survive? I have never heard about her!

There is an interesting internet page about the Glauco- Lombardi -Museum. there are also a a lot of pictures in the archive, concerning Albertina Sanvitale and her children.

Ther picture with the two grandsons of Marie Louise shows Albertino and  Stefano Sanvitale as small children. There are more interesting pictures.


Here are some more from Wilhelm, son of Marie Louise:


As a child: (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/Inv-208.jpg)



Later :


(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/Inv-287.jpg)


By Kniehuber:

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/MontenuovoLitho.jpg)


"Virtual" picture:

Reichstadt and half-sister Albertina :

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/Inv-98.jpg)



Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: britt.25 on June 09, 2006, 04:20:22 AM
And at last this one, I pray that nobody laughs about this, because it is a self-made picture.
 I had ordered the original version of the picture from Italy via Email, but it was so bad quality and I gave the man a new face, but he must have looked like similar to this.

Giovanni Sanvitale the last count Sanvitale from the line of Albertina:

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/File0225.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 09, 2006, 08:52:33 AM
Dear Britt! Thank you forthe wonderful pictures, I had never seen Wilhem as a child! These picture are fantastics too! Reichstadt never asked his mother anything about his half brothers, he was disapointed at the fact that her mother had them out of the wedlock and most important that she would spend a couple of weeks a year with him and the entire time with them....

    
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 09, 2006, 09:06:36 AM
A couple of years ago there was a jewels exposition of Napoleonic time and among the pieces there was this bracelets, which were given to Marie Louise by Napoleon, I had never seen them before, there are made of gold, diamonds and precious stones....

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/chaumet1.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: polignac on June 09, 2006, 01:23:51 PM
Do you know what kind of relationship did Marie Louise and the Duchesse de Angouleme, Marie-Therese, had?
Marie Louise married with Napoleon only by political matters. After Napoleon, during the restoration, how was Marie Louise seen by the royalists and by the court of the europen countries?

Thanks
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yseult on June 09, 2006, 05:44:11 PM
Ah, Polignac...good point about the duchess of Angouleme Marie Therese!

I suppose...but I merely suppose, that Marie Therese had not a relationship with Marie Louise. When Marie Therese was released from the Temple prison and moved to Vienna´s court, she had seventeen years. She was a young girl who had passed through very hard times...her father had been guillotined, her mother had been guillotined, her beloved paternal aunt Elisabeth had been guillotined and her young brother the dauphin was "lost". I think that at the Vienna´s court she must have been suffered a good deal of emotional distress, in addition, due to the fact that she believed that her cousin emperor Francis II had done not enough to safe her parents from their ill-fate.

When Marie Therese was sent to the Vienna´s court, at the year 1795, Marie Louise, her second cousin, was a very little archduchess...remember that Marie Louise was born on December 1791! I believe that the poor traumatised girl of seventeen had not chances to enjoy herself with the archduchess aged four. And Marie Therese left Vienna on 1798, maybe on the beginnings of 1799...I don´t remember well. I know that on june 1799 she was marrying Louis-Antoine duke of Angouleme at Mitau, Lithuania, where she was established with her uncle, later Louis XVIII of France. So, when Marie Therese moved from Vienna to Mitau, Marie Louise was aged seven.

Marie Therese did not return to France after the defeat of Napoleon. She was really distrustful of the many french who had supported the Republic or, later, the Napoleon´s Empire. And Marie Louise, by this time, was playing her role as duchess of Parma.

A beautiful portrait of unfortunate cousin of Marie Louise:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/vanozzacatanei/MarieTheresedAngouleme.jpg)



Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: polignac on June 09, 2006, 06:50:48 PM
Marie Louise was Napoleon's wife, but did she supported the Empire?... When Napoleon was exiled to Elba, she refused to go with him. And at the Hundred Days, Marie Louise also refused to come back to Paris. So, I doubt about her loyalty to the Empire. She married only by political causes. I think that she wanted the Bourbon restoration. Once Napoleon defeated, Marie Louise would be free to live her life away from the man that she didn't loved...But this is only my opinion. I don't know if she liked him at all.
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yseult on June 10, 2006, 04:44:05 AM
Another portrait of Marie Louise:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/vanozzacatanei/MarieLouisepaintedbyProudhon.jpg)

Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: gogm on June 10, 2006, 05:57:55 PM
It seems to be a recurring theme - beauty doesn't mean hapiness.

Marie Louise always looks gorgeous in her portraits, but she was forced into a marriage of inconvenience.
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 12, 2006, 09:23:58 AM
Napoleon said that she was very fresh... it seemed that she was a pretty girl, with full breast, and charming blue eyes, she also had small feet....
However according to what I have read she did not aged well, she did not dressed well either!

In any case in her youth she was attractive!

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/ML.jpg)

I like this portrait it seems that it is a c opy of one I post earlier on, thedifference is that she is wearing the emeraude parrure instead of the rubis one.

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/emeraude.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/04-503790.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/parruredemeraudedemarieluouise.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: britt.25 on June 12, 2006, 01:31:52 PM
I like your pictures from the jewels so much, they are unique and so fantastic :) :)


Here are two paintings of Marie Louise, she must have been quite a good painter ;)


(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/Inv-485.jpg)
 

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/7f3/s-luigia-veduta.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 12, 2006, 01:59:41 PM
Wow!!!!! Thank you so much, I had never seen paintings done by Marie Louise, she was a talented painter!!!! ;)

I am glad you like the jewels!!!! :)


here is the emerald tiara as it is nowaday, the emerald were replaced by turquoises


(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/kedvesem/turquoise.jpg)



Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: britt.25 on June 13, 2006, 02:36:46 AM
I have never seen these jewels so clear :) :)

The  Marie Louise pictures are from the website of the Glauco Lombardi Museum. It is a very interesting page.

Somehwere there is also a picture, where Marie Louise draws Napoleon.. This is quite funny, maybe you know it.  ;)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: ilyala on June 13, 2006, 05:49:48 AM
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Marie Louise was Napoleon's wife, but did she supported the Empire?... When Napoleon was exiled to Elba, she refused to go with him. And at the Hundred Days, Marie Louise also refused to come back to Paris. So, I doubt about her loyalty to the Empire. She married only by political causes. I think that she wanted the Bourbon restoration. Once Napoleon defeated, Marie Louise would be free to live her life away from the man that she didn't loved...But this is only my opinion. I don't know if she liked him at all.


she initially wanted to go to elba but then she heard that napoleon had been visited by countess walewska and was disturbed by the idea. her father was not so keen on her going so he planted neipperg in her way and the rest is history...
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 13, 2006, 10:13:36 AM
Ilyala is right, inicially she wanted to reunite herself with Napoleon, when she was in France, her letters to her relatives were the one of a joyful bride! I don`t know if she was in love with him but at least she cared about him, she did not have any complain of him as a husband! When she first met her father in France she told him that her wish was to be with her husband. Back in Vienna she reiterated her wish to go to Elba, and this when metternich and her father presented her with Neipperg, both of them hoped that she would have something with him, in order for her to forget about Napoleon, the fact that Marie Waleski did go to Elba did not help things, she was hurt. In any case with Neipperg in the picture she completely forgot about Napoleon, dring the 100 days she showed no interest in going back to him, she was happy when the Bourbon went back to power. Napoleon was in the past, a past she did not care to remember.
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: MarieCharlotte on June 15, 2006, 07:56:44 AM
Quote
Another interesting fact, is that when she gave birth to Napoleon II the doctor siad that it was most likely to be the only child the couple would have, since the labor was difficult!!!
However she had three chldren form Neipperg!!!! :o

Albertine, Countess of Montenuovo (1817-1867, married Luigi, Count di Fontanellato) and Wilhelm Albrecht, Count of Montenuovo, later created Prince of Montenuovo (1819-1895, married Countess Juliana Batthyány von Némét-Ujvár). Marie-Louise and Neipperg also had a second daughter, Mathilde, Countess of Montenuovo, in 1822.

Albertine was born on May 1 1817
she married Luigi Count di Fontanellato in October 1833
they had 4 kids:

Albert born in 1834
Marie 1836
Stephan 1838
Luise ?

Whilhem born in 1819
he married Juliana Batthyány
and had three children:

Albertine  1854
Alfred 1854
Maria Sophia 1859



I have some more details:

Marie Louise's children by Adam Albrecht Neipperg:

1) Albertine Marie, Gräfin Montenuovo (Parma May 1st 1817 - Fontanellato near Parma December 26th 1867). She was buried in the church of San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma. Albertine married Ludwig (Luigi) Conte Sanvitale di Fontanellato (Parma November 7th 1799 - Parma January 3rd 1876) on October 26th 1833 - he was 34 and Albertine ony 16 years old! They had four children. The fourth child Luise died young, but I don't have other informations.

2) Wilhelm Albrecht, Graf von Montenuovo (Castle Sala grande near Parma August 8th 1821 - Wien / Oberdöbling April 6th 1895). He married Juliane Johanna Marie Gräfin von Batthýany (Vienna June 10th 1827 - Hietzing / Vienna November 19th 1871) on May 18th 1850 in Vienna. They had three children: Albertine (born June 30th 1853), Alfred Adam Wilhelm Johann Maria (born Sepetmber 16th 1854) and Maria Sophie (born September 10th 1869). The couple is buried in Deutsch-Boly in Hungary.

3) Mathilde, Gräfin von Montenuovo who was born in 1822 and died young. She is buried in the same church as her sister Albertine, San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma.

Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 15, 2006, 08:13:15 AM
marie Louise son was I believe the Chambellan of Court event, he would, revised the guest list in order to be sure that the guest would be pure aristocrats!!! Empress Sissi ued to dislike him, she used to say that he was probably so preocupied with "pure aristocratic blood" due to the fact that he was a born out of the wedlock!
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Sissi on June 15, 2006, 08:13:56 AM
Quote
Quote
Another interesting fact, is that when she gave birth to Napoleon II the doctor siad that it was most likely to be the only child the couple would have, since the labor was difficult!!!
However she had three chldren form Neipperg!!!! :o

Albertine, Countess of Montenuovo (1817-1867, married Luigi, Count di Fontanellato) and Wilhelm Albrecht, Count of Montenuovo, later created Prince of Montenuovo (1819-1895, married Countess Juliana Batthyány von Némét-Ujvár). Marie-Louise and Neipperg also had a second daughter, Mathilde, Countess of Montenuovo, in 1822.

Albertine was born on May 1 1817
she married Luigi Count di Fontanellato in October 1833
they had 4 kids:

Albert born in 1834
Marie 1836
Stephan 1838
Luise ?

Whilhem born in 1819
he married Juliana Batthyány
and had three children:

Albertine  1854
Alfred 1854
Maria Sophia 1859



I have some more details:

Marie Louise's children by Adam Albrecht Neipperg:

1) Albertine Marie, Gräfin Montenuovo (Parma May 1st 1817 - Fontanellato near Parma December 26th 1867). She was buried in the church of San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma. Albertine married Ludwig (Luigi) Conte Sanvitale di Fontanellato (Parma November 7th 1799 - Parma January 3rd 1876) on October 26th 1833 - he was 34 and Albertine ony 16 years old! They had four children. The fourth child Luise died young, but I don't have other informations.

2) Wilhelm Albrecht, Graf von Montenuovo (Castle Sala grande near Parma August 8th 1821 - Wien / Oberdöbling April 6th 1895). He married Juliane Johanna Marie Gräfin von Batthýany (Vienna June 10th 1827 - Hietzing / Vienna November 19th 1871) on May 18th 1850 in Vienna. They had three children: Albertine (born June 30th 1853), Alfred Adam Wilhelm Johann Maria (born Sepetmber 16th 1854) and Maria Sophie (born September 10th 1869). The couple is buried in Deutsch-Boly in Hungary.

3) Mathilde, Gräfin von Montenuovo who was born in 1822 and died young. She is buried in the same church as her sister Albertine, San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma.



Exelent Marie Charlotte ;D
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: britt.25 on June 15, 2006, 10:26:02 AM
I found it interesting that Franz von Bayern descends from Marie Louise through his mother :)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Dmitry Russian on February 26, 2007, 07:46:41 PM
Let's strictly not judge the French empress Marie-Louise. Let's not reproach it with treachery Napoleon and dislike and indifference to their unique son. Let's recollect those times of its life. I think Marie-Louise had not the right to dispose of the private life. Absolutely other people solved her destiny. Let's think and there was a destiny of this Austrian princess if did not exist Napoleon. Perhaps, Narie-Louise after achievement of age of consent has married any European prince or the successor of any European throne. Perhaps, we shall never recollect it. And so in 1809 Marie-Louise has married for Napoleon at will of its father, wished to rescue the Austrian empire thus. When Napoleon has fallen in 1814, father Marie-Louise has counted itself free from any obligations to the French emperor and began to divide the inheritance which has remained after Napoleon together with winners of the French emperor. Certainly, it is a pity to me Napoleon II, but let's recollect, what was  destiny of Louis XVII. I think, him destiny is not less tragic destiny of the Eaglet.
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: beladona on November 20, 2007, 02:27:41 AM
Another Napoleons gift to Marie Luise, beautiful "escritoire", made by goldsmith Martin-Guillaume Biennais, now in National Museum in Prague. See  http://zpravy.idnes.cz/zajimavosti.asp?y=zajimavosti/kazeta.htm (http://zpravy.idnes.cz/zajimavosti.asp?y=zajimavosti/kazeta.htm)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Mari on November 20, 2007, 04:07:13 AM
She was a very pretty Woman as was her Aunt Marie Antoinette! Imagine how hated as an Austrian poor Marie Antoinette was and now here is Marie Louise, an Austrian marrying the next occupant of the throne! I wonder if her Father gave her any advice as Marie Antoinette received advice from her Mother. 
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: britt.25 on November 20, 2007, 02:33:06 PM
I think, she simply did what she had to do, marrying Napoleon, when her father wanted it, all because of political reasons, but then learned to love Napoleon. A pity that she later on went back to the fathers court (I mean after the fall of her husband) and never got any further interest in the fate of Napoleon, whereas Maria Walewka did indeed visit him on Elba...This lady was still so young and had such hard fate, did what her father said, but however...did not have to die like her distant aunt Maria Antonia. Had two more children by Neipperg etc. In comparison to some of her siblings, who had really a terrible Habsburg look (especially old emperor Ferdinand I) she was a beautiful woman, her daughter Albertine was so similar to her. I like most the Glauco Lombardi page, which shows wonderful pictures, even many made by Marie Louise. She much have been a very intelligent and talented woman. Her pictures are very nice and beautiful. Please have a look at that wonderful italian website!
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Norbert on January 03, 2008, 01:03:38 PM
I would be interested to know where in Parma Empress Marie Louise married Count von Niepperg and Comte Bombelles. The Ducal Palace in Parma has confirmed that she died there, some books claim she died in Vienna. Was she born at Schonbrunn?
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Luc on July 01, 2008, 03:04:49 PM
Queen Hortense, (1783-1837) imagined  Marie Louise as a young lamb that was leaded to the altar and wrote: "She was me yet beloved and I waited for her as someone who maybe had to need me."
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 31, 2010, 01:50:46 PM
Her wedding with Napoleon
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/WeddingNapoleon.jpg)
With a formal dress
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/EmpressFrance.jpg)
As a girl with her family
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/Kaiserliche_Familie.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 31, 2010, 01:59:19 PM
Saying goodbye to her family
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/SayingGoodbye.jpg)
Her as an older lady
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/OldMarieLouise.jpg)
Her as the young Empress
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/MariaLuisa.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on March 31, 2010, 02:14:07 PM
The Empress...
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/Marie_Luise.jpg)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Royalty/EmpressMarieLouise.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: prinzheinelgirl on April 19, 2010, 07:50:02 AM

I have some more details:

Marie Louise's children by Adam Albrecht Neipperg:

1) Albertine Marie, Gräfin Montenuovo (Parma May 1st 1817 - Fontanellato near Parma December 26th 1867). She was buried in the church of San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma. Albertine married Ludwig (Luigi) Conte Sanvitale di Fontanellato (Parma November 7th 1799 - Parma January 3rd 1876) on October 26th 1833 - he was 34 and Albertine ony 16 years old! They had four children. The fourth child Luise died young, but I don't have other informations.

Marie-Louise's daughter Albertine Marie did marry someone way older. Albertine Marie's father-in-law , Conte Stefano Sanvitale, served as grand chamberlain at Marie Louise's court in Parma and was also a courtier and a very good friend of Duke Ferdinand of Parma and his wife Archduchess Maria Amalia, and their son Louis, Marie Louise's relations. So there was very likely a strong and friendly connection hence, the marriage. Also, the Sanvitale family was one of the oldest and wealthier noble families in the area.  Both Luigi and his father Stefano were considered intelligent, well-traveled and generous/charitable men. Luigi served as the first mayor of Parma after the Italian unification.
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 18, 2010, 01:49:25 PM
Posted in detail before, now the full verssion
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/MLuise.jpg)
With Napoleon
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/France.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 21, 2010, 08:46:25 PM
The French Imperial Family: Napoleon I, Marie Louise and the little Napoleon II
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Palace/Family.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 23, 2010, 07:02:04 PM
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/NapoleonML.jpg)
Young and lovely
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/1800.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Rani on July 24, 2010, 06:06:14 PM
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/2676/0429.jpg)

(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2901/0133.jpg)

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2134/0132u.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 03, 2010, 03:26:50 PM
The Imperial couple
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/Francia-2.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 05, 2010, 02:17:39 PM
This is very beautiful, the young Empress with her little son
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Queens/Reichstadt.gif)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 03, 2010, 01:34:05 PM
Marie Louise
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Royals/ML2.jpg)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Royals/MLFrance.jpg)
Title: Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
Post by: Clemence on May 04, 2016, 01:16:06 PM
he Disaster at the Ball Given by the Austrian Embassy in Paris, 1810 (1897) by Robert Alexander Hillingford (English 1828-1904)

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/314618723941715005/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/314618723941715005/)

this was a very famous fire that occurred during the celebrations at the Austrian embassy to mark the marriage of Napoleon and Marie-Louise, on 1 July, 1810. A candle ignited a curtain and a huge fire broke out. It lasted all the night. Many of the guests were robbed as they escaped.