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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Imperial Family => Topic started by: MarieCharlotte on June 13, 2006, 06:49:35 AM

Title: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: MarieCharlotte on June 13, 2006, 06:49:35 AM
Hallo,

in fact I don't know much about the Emperors of Russia and their families. But yesterday I read in a book about the childhood of Emperor Franz Joseph of Austria that Olga, Alexander II.'s sister, should marry Archduke Stephan, eldest son of Palatin Joseph of Hungary. As far as I know Alexander and Joseph were friends, maybe also because Alexander's aunt (?) Alexandra (1783-1801) was Joseph's first wife. In the end, Olga didn't marry Joseph, because Metternich was against it.

Does anybody have more information about Olga? I read that she was one of the most beautiful princesses of that time. Later she marriedKing  Karl von Württemberg who was definitely a homosexual.

Thanks in advance,

Marie
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: grandduchessella on June 13, 2006, 07:48:29 AM
Some really good info is available in Romanov Autumn and The Grand Duchesses. Here's what Camera and the Tsars has to say:

'She was a beautiful, gentle girl who lacked the impulsiveness of her elder sister [Marie] and was content to leave her future in her father's hands--though his determination to secure a prestigious match for her almost saw her end without any husband, though there was no shortage of interested young men. In the summer of 1846, the Tsar finally agreed to her marriage to Karl, Hereditary Prince of Wurttemberg. It is usually said that this was an unhappy marriage though, in a memoir of her early years...Queen Olga wrote fondly of her engagement and wedding. Childlessness was her great sorrow; the nearest she would know to a child of her own was her niece [Vera]....who spent long periods with her and married into the Wurttemberg family. Queen Olga spent over four decades of her life in Germany and always craved contact with her own, Russian family. '

The memoir was written for Vera's daughters, Olga (most likely named for her great-Aunt) and Elsa in 1881. The dedication was to the girls, the 'Dear Children!' and stated the hope that when they were 'grown up, you may want to know what your Grandmama's childhood was like'.

GDss George recalled that Olga cared for Vera and 'educated her and loved her as her own daughter'.

She was no doubt pleased when Vera married Prince Wilhelm Eugen of Wurttemberg in 1874 and thus stayed in Stuttgart. Though her husband died young, in 1876 or 1877, Vera remained in Wurttemberg.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: grandduchessella on June 13, 2006, 08:50:44 AM
Direct quotes from The Grand Duchesses:

Olga, like her siblings, was well-educated and by age 5, she could speak French, German and Russian; she was a 'voracious' reader who enjoyed classical music and was a good painter. She was raised in an atmosphere of culture and elegance, an upbringing which would prepare her for her later role.

Her father's first choice of husband was AD Stephan of Austria. Olga was 'more than willing to go along with this' but Metternich wasn't for it and put an end to it on 'religious reasons'. Other possible suiters included CP Max of Bavaria and AD Albrecht of Austria, who proposed in 1841.

Prince Bariatinsky was 'very smitten with her' as was Alexander of Hesse (founder of the Battenbergs). This latter attachment led NI to send him 'out of the way' to the Caucasus. Prince Gortchakov, the Russian Ambassador in Stuttgart, brought up Karl's name. NI proved agreeable to meeting the  prince and suggested a meeting in Venice. This meeting took place in 1845 and he made a good enough impression on the Tsar that they travelled onto Palermo where Karl met Olga. 'Although Karl was shy and awkward...he and Olga quickly had a meeting of the minds' and their engagement was announced the next month. Olga remained in Palermo with her mother and began to prepare for her marriage, meeting with Karl again, this time in Florence.

The two were married in St Petersburg in 1846 at Peterhof. There was a Protestant (Karl's religion) ceremony along with the Orthodox one. (Shades of Alfred, Duke of Edinburgh & Marie Alexandrovna almost 30 years later. Like Marie, Olga kept her Orthodox faith and had a special Chapel constructed at her new home.) After a few months, the newlyweds returned to Wurttemberg where Olga made an 'excellent' first impression with her truly royal demeanor. While they had a palace at Stuttgart, both preferred the quieter life at the Villa Berg just outside Stuttgart. They also frequently visited the royal hunting lodge Bebenhausen, a former monastery. They travelled a good deal in the early years both on private vacations and official visits.

Not too long into the marriage 'the first cracks were already beginning to appear'. Karl's parents weren't happy together and 'he was not the type...who should have married at all; his strong homosexual tendencies came increasingly to the fore. He could be very moody, rude and uncaring, and Olga felt slighted and neglected.' Karl was grateful towards his wife for her many skills (which rebounded to him) but his nature wasn't one that would be comfortable with expressing this fact. Adding to her unhappiness was the lack of children, at least until her 9-yr-old niece Vera arrived in 1863. She was regarded as a problem child, very nervous and excitable, and AII himself made the request to Olga. (It's now thought Vera's condition could've been the result of something like St Vitius's, possibly even epilepsy.) Karl was also 'a devoted foster father' and the 2 would eventually 'formally' adopt Vera.

The couple would come to the throne in 1864. In addition to her excellent showing at official engagements, Olga devoted herself to charitable affairs. She had not only the position to make a difference but also her own independent (and considerable) wealth. The education of girls was a particular interest and she personally established many schools and training institutions. She also had a particular sympathy for the blind, mentally retarded, orphans and 'other organisations concerned with the disadvantaged'. Olga was even thanked several times by parliament. Keeping in tune with the atmosphere in which she was raised, Olga was also very concerned with the cultural interests of her adopted country. (She was later to despair of AIII's court where she felt all culture had been abandoned in favor of practical jokes.) In this, at least, she and her husband were in sync. Many items currently in museums and galleries in Stuttgart were purchased by Olga.

The couple celebrated their 25th wedding anniversary in 1871. To mark this, they created the German-born Australian explorer Ferdinand Mueller a Baron. In return, he gave them a long-lasting honor. A series of massive rock formations was discovered by Mueller's protege, explorer Ernest Giles in central Australia in 1872. Giles had wanted to name the tallest peak Mt Mueller, but Mueller prevailed on him to name it Mt Olga. The entire geological formation became known as "The Olgas", before the indigenous name Kata Tjuta was proclaimed in the 1980s.  Nonetheless, the marriage continued to deteriorate and was at a 'low point' by the early 1880s. Karl had begun to withdraw from public life, allowing his heir to carry out many of his duties. He also spent more time away from his wife. A scandal was raised by his relationship with a young American, Charles Woodcock. Karl travelled with him and gave him a number of gifts & money. He would even raise him to the title of Baron von Savage. Woodcock would eventually blackmail him and it cost Karl considerably to 'extricate' himself. Nonetheless, his silver Jubilee was widely celebrated in 1889. Karl died two years later.

--After this, Olga withdrew to the family castle of Friedrichshafen on Lake Constance and died a year after her husband, in 1892. She laid in state at her Russian Chapel, where 1000s paid their respects. Wilhelm II himself attended her funeral--his great-aunt was Olga's mother. She was laid to rest beside her husband.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: grandduchessella on June 13, 2006, 08:54:33 AM
Just to clarify the above, the information comes from a variety of printed & online sources but the direct quotes are from The Grand Duchesses section on Olga.

Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: MarieCharlotte on June 13, 2006, 01:43:50 PM
Thank you so much for all this information.  :)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on June 17, 2006, 04:23:57 AM
Quote
[img]Archduke Stephan who should marry Olga.

And after the failure with Olga Stephan was considered for a short time a possible match for Grand Duchess Ekaterina Mikhailovna, niece of Emperor Nikolay I. The Emperor itself did not want such a husband for his niece, it was GDss Elena Pavlovna, Ekaterina's mother, who tried to settle daughter.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: MarieCharlotte on August 10, 2006, 05:02:35 AM
And after the failure with Olga Stephan was considered for a short time a possible match for Grand Duchess Ekaterina Mikhailovna, niece of Emperor Nikolay I. The Emperor itself did not want such a husband for his niece, it was GDss Elena Pavlovna, Ekaterina's mother, who tried to settle daughter.

... and in the end Stephan didn't marry at all.  ;D
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: berno on August 21, 2006, 11:20:25 AM
I think perhaps that the painting above is not King Karl of Wurttemberg but King Wihelm ll von Wurttemberg.
Here is one of (definite) King Karl von Wurttemberg, husband of Olga.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2006-02-12-1349-14_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Vladimir_V. on September 02, 2006, 01:20:17 AM
Would you help me with this question. Have you ever heard anything of French sculptor TRUDU I am not sure that my translation of his name from Cyrillic is right. He is working in XIX century. He made a sculptural portrait of Olga Nicholaevna (the daughter of the Russian Emperor Nicholas I and the wife of the King Karl I of Wurttemberg).
Thank you.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: synnadene on September 26, 2007, 05:36:54 AM
Olga Nicolaievna, Queen of Württemberg

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Synnadene/OtherRoyals/2793_6.jpg)

Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: synnadene on September 26, 2007, 12:53:09 PM

and again Olga

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Synnadene/OtherRoyals/QueenOlgaNic.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: pouvoir aux canard on October 01, 2007, 03:21:36 PM
Curiously, the question of the wedding of Olga became a VERY difficult problem for Nicolas 1 and his diplomacy. Problems of religion were closely mixed with political questions until it became a hudge diplomatic difficulty. Maria felt in love with Eugene von Leuchtenberg and, even if it was not the first choice of Nicolas,  he agreed: the Leuchtenberg-Romanov family will live in Russia and Eugène (as said Nicolas ) "will become a good russian". Alexandra felt in love with a prince rather convenient for the third girl of an emperor. But the wedding of Olga, (also for a question of prestige) had to be a plainly royal one. Nicolas tried with Austria (but the question of slavism in the austro-hungarian empire became an impedimenta ), Bavaria, and with the Kingdom of Napoli without any success. He went in Austria and Napoli not only to meet his wife in Sicily but mainly to resolve the problem. There are diplomatic documents were Nicolas said to have been HUMILIATED on this question by Austrian court and by the "damned king of Napoli"... During the same period Olga became rather nervous and the health of the empress even worse. So, when Nicolas saw a real possibility of a wedding for Olga he did it, praying Olga to accept the Wurtemberg fiancé "as his last possibility"... we know how frustrating the life of Olga has been and we can observe on the paintings and photographies of the poor Grande Duchesse his transformation into a sad and unhappy woman (with a strong sense of duty). At less Maria Nicolaevna (with a minor sense of duty) lived plainly his own life with a lot of childs and two husbands…

Mr Canard
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: pouvoir aux canard on October 03, 2007, 08:26:52 AM
One thing are the paintings, another are the eyes and the mind of contemporaries ... some memories from french diplomats, hight ranked travellers , etc , describe GD Olga Nicolaevna as a girl "with the look and the manners of a blond fairy". GD Maria Nicolaevna, on contrary,  is described as high-handed and ... not so pretty ("a long face very similar to the one of her father") and also as a princess VERY skilled on the cultural and artistic matters. GD Alexandra Nicolaevna is ignored in these chronicles but we have to consider that she married rather young, died after 8 monthes and not had a long social life... when GD Maria had one in Russia from 1839 to 1860 and GD Olga from 1840 to 1846...

To be noted that the first choice of Nicolas AND of OLGA , for a fiancé, was certainly Archduke Stephan Franz Victor of Austria,

but Metternich remained absolutely opposed.  At this time he was governor (civil governor) of Bohemia and in 1847 became Palatin of  Ungheria (civil and military governor). (once upon a time, in Hungary, someone said to me that, as writes Eric Lowe in courteous manner,  Stefan played on the other team as well). (t.b.n. that AD Stefan Franz Viktor never married). AD Stefan's father first wife was GD Alexandra Pawlovna.


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Istv%C3%A1n_n%C3%A1dor_Bekel.jpg)


Anyway, after the european revolutionaries riots of 1848, AD Stefan had an austrian military carreer, then retired and died in south of France (Menton) in 1867.



Returning now in Russia 1840.... many young princes were in love with Olga , as Prince Baryatinsky and also Alexander of Hesse (brother of Imperatrice Maria - the wife of Alexander 2), etc, etc... (the russian ones, generally Nicolas gently sended them to Finland or Caucase or farest...)

Later on (1851) Alexander of Hesse married a lady-in-waiting of his sister (hudge scandal !!) Julia Von Hauke (from this wedding, the Battenberg-Mountbatten, etc). The father of Julia, anyway, was considered a hero as he died in Poland in 1830 to protect GD Konstantin Pavlovitch from the rioters but Julia was not in the Almanach du Gotha as a fiancée for a royal wedding...

Why did Nicolas 1 desagreed Alexander for marrying Olga ? He was a third son and had few possibilities to regn! But Nicolas 1 considered Alexandre a possible groom for one of his nieces... so one can immagine how much this morganatic marriage deceived the Emperor ....
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 03, 2007, 09:08:18 PM
Yes...Alexander was offered Elena Pretovna's ugly daughter Katherina Michailovna as consolation prize for not getting Olga. He turn The Tsar down flat and instead eloped with Countess Julie. What a man !  :)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on October 04, 2007, 12:22:10 AM
Yes...Alexander was offered Elena Pretovna's ugly daughter Katherina Michailovna as consolation prize for not getting Olga.

Ekaterina Mikhailovna was not ugly or a perfect fright, she just was plain in features. And her mother's name was Elena Pavlovna.

Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: pouvoir aux canard on October 04, 2007, 04:33:55 AM
The point is: was Ekaterina Michailowna considered ugly in his time ? I have no documents on that, no memories, no letters ... and I do not read russian. Purhaps something could be find in the language of her husband (german but I do not read german...). I have a vague memory to have rode once that - as a young girl - in Russia she was considered charming and very cultured, with a sweet voice and sweet manners.

Many french travellers said that russian women of the nobilty were slight, beautiful in face, really cultured. So, beeng plain,  E M was certainly different. She also married young (17een, I guess) and it seems her husband was deeply in love with her. I do not know if the niece that Nicolas wanted to marry Alexander was her... I thought (without a precise reason) it was Maria Michailovna (the one dead in Vienna of tuberculosis).

An other fact is that to-day, to be plain still means to be considered in some way "ugly" (as a man and as a woman). 

Your friend

Mr Canard
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: gem_10 on October 04, 2007, 11:28:13 PM
The point is: was Ekaterina Michailowna considered ugly in his time ? I have no documents on that, no memories, no letters ... and I do not read russian. Purhaps something could be find in the language of her husband (german but I do not read german...). I have a vague memory to have rode once that - as a young girl - in Russia she was considered charming and very cultured, with a sweet voice and sweet manners.

That was quite understandable since her mother, Elena Pavlovna, was a very refined and highly intelligent lady. She must've personally supervised the education of her daughters.

Does anyone have information on Elizabeth Michailovna? She died very young (in childbirth), like her cousin, Alexandra Nicholaievna. It was said that she was a very pretty and charming girl.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on October 05, 2007, 12:46:06 AM
The point is: was Ekaterina Michailowna considered ugly in his time ? I have no documents on that, no memories, no letters ... and I do not read russian. Purhaps something could be find in the language of her husband (german but I do not read german...). I have a vague memory to have rode once that - as a young girl - in Russia she was considered charming and very cultured, with a sweet voice and sweet manners.


Does anyone have information on Elizabeth Michailovna? She died very young (in childbirth), like her cousin, Alexandra Nicholaievna. It was said that she was a very pretty and charming girl.

So sad that many interesting old threads in our Forums are deleted as there were 2 or 3 threads on the descendants of GD Mikhail Pavlovich with info and pictures.
Elizaveta Mikhailovna was considered the prettiest among her sisters but frail in health, she also was of a melancholic temper and when being pregnant afraid that she would die as her cousin Alexandra Nikolayevna in childbirth...And Elizaveta really died so.


Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: gem_10 on October 05, 2007, 01:56:36 AM
The point is: was Ekaterina Michailowna considered ugly in his time ? I have no documents on that, no memories, no letters ... and I do not read russian. Purhaps something could be find in the language of her husband (german but I do not read german...). I have a vague memory to have rode once that - as a young girl - in Russia she was considered charming and very cultured, with a sweet voice and sweet manners.


Does anyone have information on Elizabeth Michailovna? She died very young (in childbirth), like her cousin, Alexandra Nicholaievna. It was said that she was a very pretty and charming girl.

So sad that many interesting old threads in our Forums are deleted as there were 2 or 3 threads on the descendants of GD Mikhail Pavlovich with info and pictures.
Elizaveta Mikhailovna was considered the prettiest among her sisters but frail in health, she also was of a melancholic temper and when being pregnant afraid that she would die as her cousin Alexandra Nikolayevna in childbirth...And Elizaveta really died so.





Yes, I remembered that there was an old thread about Elizabeth Michailovna but now it was also deleted I think.  :(

Anyways, about her, she did look prettier (in portraits) among her sisters. But I really want to know more about her relationship with her husband Adolf. I read that she and Adolf were very much in love with one another, and that her death was a great blow to him.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on October 05, 2007, 03:28:25 AM
The point is: was Ekaterina Michailowna considered ugly in his time ? I have no documents on that, no memories, no letters ... and I do not read russian. Purhaps something could be find in the language of her husband (german but I do not read german...). I have a vague memory to have rode once that - as a young girl - in Russia she was considered charming and very cultured, with a sweet voice and sweet manners.


Does anyone have information on Elizabeth Michailovna? She died very young (in childbirth), like her cousin, Alexandra Nicholaievna. It was said that she was a very pretty and charming girl.

So sad that many interesting old threads in our Forums are deleted as there were 2 or 3 threads on the descendants of GD Mikhail Pavlovich with info and pictures.
Elizaveta Mikhailovna was considered the prettiest among her sisters but frail in health, she also was of a melancholic temper and when being pregnant afraid that she would die as her cousin Alexandra Nikolayevna in childbirth...And Elizaveta really died so.





Yes, I remembered that there was an old thread about Elizabeth Michailovna but now it was also deleted I think.  :(

Anyways, about her, she did look prettier (in portraits) among her sisters. But I really want to know more about her relationship with her husband Adolf. I read that she and Adolf were very much in love with one another, and that her death was a great blow to him.

Yes, according to the sources she and Adolf were really in love and he was in a great sorrow after her death.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: pouvoir aux canard on October 05, 2007, 07:57:38 AM
The fact is that the husbands of Elizabeta Michailovna and of Alexandra Nicolaevna had - speaking only after few informations -  very different behaviors.
The two Grande-Duchesses married on january 1844 (28th of January for Alexandra Nicolaevna and 31th of january for Elisabeta Michailovna). Alexandra died on august 1844 and Elisabeta on January 1845. Alexandra's husband married again after - I guess - one year or two and the record of the princess exists only in Russia because he rmother and father builted in Tsarkoie Selo a monument (also I guess - but I am not completely sure - that some orphanage in St Petersburg was named by her name) . Adolf builted an orthodox church and a russian cemetery in his own city and married again after quite 10 years.

Now this consideration is only a superficial one and certainly do not receive all the  facts (purhaps the second marriage of Friedrich Wilhelm was a dynastic and politic duty, and so on)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on October 05, 2007, 08:20:32 AM
The fact is that the husbands of Elizabeta Michailovna and of Alexandra Nicolaevna had - speaking only after few informations -  very different behaviors.
The two Grande-Duchesses married on january 1844 (28th of January for Alexandra Nicolaevna and 31th of january for Elisabeta Michailovna). Alexandra died on august 1844 and Elisabeta on January 1845. Alexandra's husband married again after - I guess - one year or two and the record of the princess exists only in Russia because he rmother and father builted in Tsarkoie Selo a monument (also I guess - but I am not completely sure - that some orphanage in St Petersburg was named by her name) . Adolf builted an orthodox church and a russian cemetery in his own city and married again after quite 10 years.


pouvoir aux canard,

In fact Alexandra's husband Landgrave of Hessen-Kassel married secondly only in 1853 Princess Anna of Prussia. And Adolf married in 1851, earlier than Friedrich. So nothing really different in their behaviour.
The interesting fact that both broken-hearted widowers were allowed to keep their wives' dower and all dower chests ...And their future wives were much grateful to the Russian Grand Duchesses for such a present as the dower and fortunes of the deceased girls were very large.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: pouvoir aux canard on October 05, 2007, 08:58:30 AM
Dear, Dear Svetabel

Thank you very much: I have an italian book on germans sovereigns and mediatised german families were there is an error of dating (second wedding of Friedrich Wilhem in january 1846) So, thank you!!


Your most devoted

Mr Canard
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: gem_10 on October 05, 2007, 08:37:57 PM
Portrait of GDss Olga Nikolaievna


(http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/10/5/mystic_gem/f_olganik2m_ba68f6d.jpg) (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/10/5/mystic_gem/f_olganik2m_ba68f6d.jpg&srv=img02)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on October 14, 2007, 08:36:38 PM

Portrait of GDss Olga Nikolaievna

(http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/10/5/mystic_gem/f_olganik2m_ba68f6d.jpg) (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/10/5/mystic_gem/f_olganik2m_ba68f6d.jpg&srv=img02)


grand duchess Olga Nikolaevna, queen of Württemburg
by F. X. Winterhalter

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/Unfiled%20Photos/Grand_Duchess_Olga_qn_Wurtt.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/Unfiled%20Photos/Grand_Duchess_Olga_qn_Wurtt.jpg)

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Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: XJaseyRaeX on October 14, 2007, 10:17:41 PM
there is this one portrait i've been trying to look for, it's of Olga Nikolaevna i believe in this blue velvet dress with pearls hanging from it..it looks like it was from the mid 1800's
has anyone else seen this portrait before?
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on October 15, 2007, 12:34:07 AM
there is this one portrait i've been trying to look for, it's of Olga Nikolaevna i believe in this blue velvet dress with pearls hanging from it..it looks like it was from the mid 1800's
has anyone else seen this portrait before?


do you mean this one?:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/01-g/CMCapture105.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/01-g/CMCapture105.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/01-g/CMCapture106.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/01-g/CMCapture106.jpg)

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Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: GDNastya on February 03, 2008, 07:21:29 AM
Grand Duchesses Maria Nikolaevna and Olga Nikolaevna

(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r174/GDNastya/om.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: GDNastya on February 03, 2008, 07:26:52 AM
Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna

(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r174/GDNastya/on2.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Alexandrina-Sofia on August 25, 2009, 10:18:30 AM
Good day! Help me, please.
I  search color version this portrait of Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna 

(http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/r/o/rostislava/Olga-Nikolaevna-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marc on August 25, 2009, 10:36:00 AM
What lovely portrait,it would be great to see it in color!
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Veronica on August 25, 2009, 05:39:02 PM
I have this with a better definition, but still no color.
I think it's a Winterhalter

(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4503/olganikolaievna74.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: ashanti01 on August 26, 2009, 12:20:18 AM


(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/KingandQueenofWrttemberg-1.jpg)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/QueenofWrttemberg-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on August 26, 2009, 03:58:27 AM
In the last photos you can see Queen Olga with her great-nieces, Olga and Elsa, daughters of GDss Vera Konstantinovna.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Alexandrina-Sofia on August 26, 2009, 09:02:12 AM
Portraits of Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna

K. Robertson, 1841

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Olga_Nikola%C3%AFevna%2C_1841.jpg/355px-Olga_Nikola%C3%AFevna%2C_1841.jpg)


1848

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Olganicolaievna.jpg)

 G. Bohn, 1852

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/K%C3%B6nigin_Olga_W%C3%BCrtt_no_frame.jpg/483px-K%C3%B6nigin_Olga_W%C3%BCrtt_no_frame.jpg)

Winterhalter, 1856

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Grand_Duchess_Olga.jpg/423px-Grand_Duchess_Olga.jpg)

Charles Jacotin

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/K%C3%B6nigin_Olga_von_W%C3%BCrttemberg.jpg)

Winterhalter, 1865

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/DH-Olga_%28W%C3%BCrtt%29.jpg/389px-DH-Olga_%28W%C3%BCrtt%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marc on August 26, 2009, 12:42:54 PM
Love those portraits ;)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Veronica on August 26, 2009, 01:41:00 PM
Olga by M. Van Brandenstein

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5007/olgawurttembergvanbrand.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on August 26, 2009, 08:47:16 PM
this august i visited stuttgart as i wanted to see the place where ekaterina pavlovna and olga nikolevna reigned . i have a lot of pictures but for the time being i`d like to post a picture of the new place, one of the residences of olga of wurtemberg



(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/078.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on August 29, 2009, 04:02:09 PM
more pictures of ludwigsburg palace, about 7 km from stuttgart. outside the palace


(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/006.jpg)



(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/009.jpg)



(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/012.jpg)

Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on August 29, 2009, 04:29:29 PM
inside the palace, entrance stairs


(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/015.jpg)



the gallery where the portraits of all the members of wurtemberg family hang

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/018.jpg)



the hall
(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/020.jpg)




the throne room
(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/023.jpg)





chapel
(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/025.jpg)




throne in the chapel

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/026.jpg)






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Post by: violetta on September 22, 2009, 05:39:54 PM
and more pictures oyf the royal residence in ludwigsburg,near stuttgart

absolutely fabulous garden

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/021.jpg)



(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/039.jpg)



palace solitude in the background

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/031.jpg)


the residential palace

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/033.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Alexandrina-Sofia on November 16, 2009, 08:41:25 AM
Portrait of Grand Duchess Olga, 1830.

(http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/r/o/rostislava/VK-Olga-Nikolaevna.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on November 18, 2009, 03:47:05 PM
What a beautiful portrait!  I'd never seen that one before; thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: ashanti01 on November 19, 2009, 10:47:47 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/olgawurttenberg1.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/olgawurttenberg.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: THERRY on November 19, 2009, 11:03:32 AM
What beautiful photos, thanks for sharing it
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Trianon on November 25, 2009, 10:36:10 AM
A wonderful and very intersting person! I read a roman about Olgas life in russia until her marriage with the crownprince. I think that many things are not true, but it's a wonderful book and there will be a second part, so I'll looking forward to that  :)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: GDNastya on November 30, 2009, 04:11:15 AM
A wonderful and very intersting person! I read a roman about Olgas life in russia until her marriage with the crownprince. I think that many things are not true, but it's a wonderful book and there will be a second part, so I'll looking forward to that  :)


Could you give me the title of this book?
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Trianon on December 02, 2009, 02:00:29 AM
Could you give me the title of this book?

Yes of course, but unfortunatley it's only in german. "Die Zarentochter" by Petra Durst-Benning

Thanks for this wonderful self-portrait! Are there any other pictures made by her?
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Alexandrina-Sofia on December 04, 2009, 07:44:23 AM
Portraits of Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna:

K. Brullov, 1837.

(http://www.nearyou.ru/kbrullov/galery5/5olga.jpg)

V. Gau, 1839

(http://photos.imwerden.de/albums/userpics/10001/hau_30_1839_vel_kn_olga_nikolaevna.jpg)

Olga Nikolaevna in form 3rd Hussar Regiment Elisavetgrad

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_q66KYOPtPLk/SYlggKsoMxI/AAAAAAAAR98/FPb8nTPZmCU/s640/...%D0%95%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9%20%D0%95.%D0%98.%D0%92.%20%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9%20%D0%9A%D0%BD%D1%8F%D0%B6%D0%BD%D1%8B%20%D0%9E%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B3%D0%B8%20%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8B%20%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BA.jpg)

V. Gau. 1846.

(http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/r/o/rostislava/VK-Olga-Nikolaevna-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on December 04, 2009, 03:11:01 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2587/4158078941_d7d1fc082a.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: THERRY on December 04, 2009, 03:42:48 PM
She was a beautiful girl
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on December 19, 2009, 04:46:59 PM
Yes, she was very beautiful.  Smart too, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on January 13, 2010, 04:19:35 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4272759324_429b74313b_o.jpg)

Charles and Olga of Wurttemberg.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on January 13, 2010, 08:41:52 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2719/4272507219_f5648d31c8.jpg)

Photo of Olga.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on January 14, 2010, 07:34:56 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4275627832_8e3399deee_o.jpg)

Olga, around 1860.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Georges duke of Kent on January 15, 2010, 02:25:11 AM
How soft is this angel face. No wounder the Wurtemberg family is so beautiful. All of them. Where did you get the watercolour you show us first?
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on January 15, 2010, 02:24:18 PM
How soft is this angel face. No wounder the Wurtemberg family is so beautiful. All of them. Where did you get the watercolour you show us first?

A friend of mine sent it to me; I think she got it from a book about Russian art.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Georges duke of Kent on January 15, 2010, 02:50:50 PM
thanks fro sharing Dru it is one of quality in the 1830,s spirit.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on January 18, 2010, 05:41:06 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4285778363_2a113da41a.jpg)

I found this picture labeled as Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna; does anyone know if it is actually her?
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on January 19, 2010, 12:10:44 AM
I've seen that image labelled as Olga Nikolyaevna, so that's probably her.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Alexandrina-Sofia on January 19, 2010, 12:20:45 AM
This is a portrait of Olga Nikolaevna brush Vladimir Hau, 1830-ies.

Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on January 19, 2010, 02:12:08 PM
Really?  That's Hau?  Interesting.  Thank you Svetabel and Alexandrina-Sofia!
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on February 02, 2010, 08:12:40 AM
GDss Olga N. in the 1830s,by Neff

(http://i46.tinypic.com/10hj9cl.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on February 02, 2010, 03:57:21 PM
That's a very pretty one, Svetabel.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Georges duke of Kent on February 02, 2010, 09:47:38 PM
A bit ridiculous in this neogothic chapel but hey we take them as they come we are not even sure of the authenticity. A forum is a forum nothing scientific hey.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on February 17, 2010, 08:41:28 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4366983998_a86286aa97.jpg)

Olga Nikolaevna.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: gogm on February 18, 2010, 12:56:03 PM
You posted an image of Maria Nikolaevna by Vladimir Hau on 18 February. Is this image of Olga Nikolaevna also by Hau? Do you when they were painted and where they are now?

There is a collection of Queen Olga of Württemberg images at http://www.gogmsite.net/queen_olga_of_wurttemberg/ (http://www.gogmsite.net/queen_olga_of_wurttemberg/). The V. Gau mentioned as the artist for some of those images is probably Vladimir Hau.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on February 18, 2010, 02:31:27 PM
I don't know who painted this picture of Olga; if anyone does know, please share.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on April 04, 2010, 07:50:08 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4491727336_178282a2b2_o.jpg)

Queen Olga of Wurttemberg.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 26, 2010, 02:03:13 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2ns51tx.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on May 06, 2010, 07:57:29 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4584983673_e899bbcbcc_o.jpg)

Olga of Wurttemberg, courtesy of gogm.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on June 01, 2010, 09:34:56 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4661563905_75dced9817_b.jpg)

Self-portrait of Olga Nikolaevna, surrounded by children.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Veronica on June 17, 2010, 05:03:29 PM
Olga

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6396/olgawurtemberg9ea2.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 21, 2010, 09:25:08 AM
King and Queen of Wurtemberg with Olga`s niece, Vera Konstantinova

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2zee7fq.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 07, 2010, 09:22:11 AM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/e63psi.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 07, 2010, 12:15:52 PM
In her memories THE GOLDEN DREAMS OF YOUTH queen olga told about all the attempts to marry her off.

In 1838 the imperial family visited berlin. she was 16. bavarian royal family wanted the crown prince max to marry olga. it was a special wish of his aunt loiuse, nee princess of prussia. in fact, the  bavarian family initially thought about maria  nikolaevna but max decided that it was to be only olga. max detected similarity between olga and a lady on an old painting in one of his castles.that`s how he fell in love with olga. olga didn`t even suspect what max`s intentions were, what`s more she didn`t even suspect that max was courting her because he concentrated his attention on himself talking only about himself, his castles, his dreams, legends, misunderstanding between him and his father. how could she imagine that the young man was courting her.she danced with nobody but max because everybody thought that olga and max would soon announce their engagement. olga was the only person who didn`t suspect what was going going. the next day as olga and max were coming back home after breakfast in charlottenburg olga ran away from max and ran towards uncle wilhelm thus seeking protection from max. it was only a few hours later that her mother,empress alexandra feodorovna,explained what was going on and olga screamed no!no!no!


when she was 17 another suitor appeared-Archduke Albrecht. he was in love with Olga, she liked him but her feelings towards him were purely friendly. she wasn`t attracted to him physically.
 
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 07, 2010, 01:49:20 PM
later there appeared another suitor, elena pavlovna`s brother.or,rather, it was elena pavlovna who wanted to help her brother. prince fridriech of wurttemberg who wanted to avoid marriage with his wurttemberg cousin. elena pavlovna decided to play a matchmaker to help her brother. she even claimed that prince friedrich fell in love with olga during his visit in russia in 1837. elena pavlovna praised her brother and tried to encouraged olga towards her brother promising her that prince friedrich would ascend the wurttemberg throne because the heir to the throne (i e prince carl, olga`s future husband ) was to weak to ascend the throne.  the prince visited the imperial family alsmost daily. olga was desperate as she didn`t want to marry him.for her, she was more like an uncle, he was her parents` age! he danced with her mother when she was a young prussian princess.when elena pavlovna informed the tzar about her brother`s intentions nikolay 1 said that olga was free to choose whoever she wanted and didn`t insist on this marriage.olga didn`t like this prince, also, she felt too young to marry.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 07, 2010, 02:45:44 PM
After prince friedrich`s visit olga confessed to her father that she felt well at home and didn`t want to leave her parents and suggested that probably they had to make a decision for her. nikolay 1 answered: WHO YOU MARRY DOESN`T DEPEND ON ME OR YOU.IT`S ALL IN GOD`S HANDS. i like this opinion because some issues in our lives do not depend on us , they depend on some supernatural forces whtever we calll them
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 07, 2010, 03:30:22 PM
in 1841  maria pavlovna of saxe-weimar visited her family in russia. she came with her husband and younger son with the intention of finding a russian bride for her son. she thought about alexandra or olga.she talked about this matter with her brother the emperor but he he didn`t agree. marila pavlovna,however, wasn`t discouraged and decided to talk face-to-face to olga nikolaevna. she proposed to olga on behalf of her son.olga refused on the grounds they were first cousins. these are superstitions - answered mariya pavlovna.
-but my father doesnt support this idea!
- he has backward views!
-but our church doesn`t support marriages between first cousins.

the conversation lasted 1 hour and olga tried to politely refuse this proposal.

the same conversation took place the next day with alexandra nikolaevna who turned the young weimar prince down,too. mariya pavlovna was so distressed that she felt ill and had o stay in bed for some time.

the weimar prince knew what was going on but pretended that he didn`t behaving as a good friend
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on July 07, 2010, 03:51:02 PM
What hair colour did Olga have? Because in every painting its different...
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Veronica on July 07, 2010, 04:10:14 PM
violetta, your account of Olga's suitors is really interesting, please tell how she ended up choosing Karl.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 08, 2010, 04:04:54 PM
continuation of a story of olga of wurttemberg and her suitors.

in 1841 the imperial family officially turned down albrecht`s hand.

olga felt like marrying stefan, the hungarian palatin, but the imperial family received a letter from metternich stating that people in their country would not like a princess with orthodo background. also, an orthodox princess would lead to social unrest with the minorities.

in 1841 it turned out that crown prince max of bavaria bacame engaged and olga signed with relief cause she called max "a nightmare of my life".

 
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 08, 2010, 06:23:52 PM
next, the family thought about adolph of nassau. this led to a serious conflict with mikhailovskiy palace i.e. the family of grand duke mikhail pavlovich. elena pavlovna wanted her daughter lilly ( it was her nickname, i think her name was elizaveta.correct me i f  i`m wrong). nikolay I ,on learning about elena pavlovna`s plans, said that his daughters and his nieces were grand duchesses with equal rights hence adolph of nassau had the right to choose between his and mikail pavlovich`s daughters. mikhail pavlovich calmed down on learnin his brothr`s point of view.elena pavlovna,however, still felt deeply hurt by olga` s refusal to marry her brother that`s why she asked her sister pauline to go to any lengths to prevent adolph from visiting russia.elena pavlovna was successful, and soon afterwards the imperial family received a letter which stated that adolph of nassau couldn`t visit russia because of his poor health and necessity to go to a spa.
olga was distressed because she had to go through a period of uncertainty again
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: gem_10 on July 08, 2010, 09:36:41 PM
Interesting story violetta! You're right that Elena Pavlovna's daughter's name was Elizaveta. She was called Lili or Lily in the family.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 10, 2010, 03:48:26 PM
the next prospective suitor of olga nikolaevna was fritz of hessen-kassel.he came to russia and during dinner he was introduced to olga nikolaevna.they met in peterhof.fritz seemed to be very nice,and olga enjoyed time with him.during the first day of fritz`s stay olga`s younger sister, alexandra (adini) was absent because she had a cold.the two met the next day and olga instatly felt that "something important happened between them".they fell in love.olga realized that she  couldn`t be her sister`s rival and stand on the way to her happiness.fritz was nice to olga but whenever adini appeared he became radiant.

once adini,when she thought that she was not heard by anyone, started playing the piano. but olga was nearby by accident and realize that adini expressed all her feelings through music.she was definitely in love.

olga came to her mother and said SHE LOVES HIM!

on the day of adini`s engagement nikolay 1 came to his daughter`s room and asked if she needed to talk to him. the tzar suffered because olga was somehow hurt.

adini died less than a year after her marriage.her prematurily born so died,too. she was buried with her son in her arms
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 16, 2010, 06:28:50 PM
olga nikolaeva was 23 when the king of wurttemberg asked if his son,the crown prince karl, could preset himself to olga nikolaevna.the emperor agreed.olga nikolaevna defined his voice as "gentlle".she was completely excited. five days after their first meeting it was clear that the couple would be engaged.olga nikolaevna perceived karl as someone perfect.
in her memroies olga nikolaevna admitted that her maied life was full of disappointmets and "severe blows".but her childhood and youth were so happy that they helped her to survive.as she was writing her memories she was able to etun to the most cherished days of her life.she wished that olga ad elsa had as happy childhood as she did because it formed the basis of someone`s life
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: rosieposie on July 20, 2010, 04:11:27 PM
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_q66KYOPtPLk/SYlggKsoMxI/AAAAAAAAR98/FPb8nTPZmCU/s640/...%D0%95%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9%20%D0%95.%D0%98.%D0%92.%20%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9%20%D0%9A%D0%BD%D1%8F%D0%B6%D0%BD%D1%8B%20%D0%9E%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B3%D0%B8%20%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8B%20%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BA.jpg)

This was labelled Olga Nicholaevna .
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on July 20, 2010, 11:08:25 PM


Olga Nikolayevna, daughter of Nicholas I, was Chief of Elisavetgradskiy Hussar Regiment.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 22, 2010, 03:34:47 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4917572026_cd37a6873f_b.jpg)

Olga as queen of Wurttemberg.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on August 26, 2010, 05:03:26 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/olganik.jpg)

Queen Olga in 1870s
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on October 09, 2010, 08:17:19 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/5066527650_d8bd21f969.jpg)

Baby Olga by Sokolov.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on October 13, 2010, 05:52:00 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/5079723784_2de81bd689.jpg)

I found this labeled as Queen Olga ca. 1865.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 07, 2011, 07:45:13 AM
Gdss Olga Nicholaevna by Vladimor Ivanovich Hau

(http://s06.radikal.ru/i179/1005/32/2e78ce8898c8.jpg)


Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on January 30, 2011, 03:47:06 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5099/5402518740_d644e08fec_b.jpg)

Queen Olga.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on February 06, 2011, 03:33:32 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5423039698_aa841c0028_z.jpg)

Olga Nikolaevna with an admirer, by unknown artist.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on February 09, 2011, 08:59:31 AM
GDss Olga in her last years

(http://www.picatom.com/1s/p0010-2-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/1s/p0010-2.html)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on March 22, 2011, 03:55:56 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5063/5551271340_2d79af32cf_b.jpg)

Olga with her nieces; not new, but bigger and better quality.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5486535213_da211d1c98_b.jpg)

Olga.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on March 23, 2011, 06:24:32 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5171/5554502854_34ee0aec42_z.jpg)

Olga.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on April 04, 2011, 12:08:43 PM
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Queen Olga.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on April 25, 2011, 04:54:22 AM
Olga and her dog

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..and the dog looks tired...
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on July 16, 2011, 03:24:43 PM
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Olga Nikolaevna on an opera program, as Crown Princess of Wurttemberg.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 17, 2011, 10:40:29 AM
I am very glad queen olga is still remembered for her charity work e.g.during franco-prussian war she foundd organization to help wounded soldiers -  Wuerttembergischer Sanitetsverein. in 1921 this orgaization became a member of Red Cross. Nikolauspflege founded in 1856 and named in honour of the Emperor  Nicholas I was to help the blind and to help them adjust to life and acquire some skills that would make their life easier. SHe also founded school for girls Konigin Olga Stift Gymnasium. Olgaschwester was an organization where nurses helped the elderly and the sick. The  list can be continued.

The people of Stuttgart  named one of the streeets of the city in her honour

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/056.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 17, 2011, 11:03:52 AM
Unfortunately, information on Queen Olga is scarce. There is of course her book of memories "Golden Dreams of Youth" and "Grand Duchesses" by Eurohistory. Plus some info scattered in different books. Unfortunately. Does anyone know more sources on Queen Olga?
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on July 17, 2011, 03:00:25 PM
Unfortunately, information on Queen Olga is scarce. There is of course her book of memories "Golden Dreams of Youth" and "Grand Duchesses" by Eurohistory. Plus some info scattered in different books. Unfortunately. Does anyone know more sources on Queen Olga?

I don't know if you read German or not, but there is a book called Königin Olga von Württemberg by Detlef Jena.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: violetta on July 17, 2011, 05:49:45 PM
No, Dru, I don`t read German. But th name Detlf Jena is familiar to me as I read his research on GD Ekaterina Pavlovna, another Russian queen of Wuerttemberg. This is superb book !!! It is in Russian . May be I`ll check if the book on queen Olga iis available in Russian.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 03, 2011, 04:26:06 PM
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Queen Olga with two ladies and a gentleman, possibly Charles Woodcock.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 06, 2011, 06:58:47 PM
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Queen Olga
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 12, 2011, 03:14:50 PM
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Olga and Karl of Wurttemberg.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on December 05, 2011, 08:56:37 PM
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Olga and the Wurttemberg family.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on December 19, 2011, 01:50:31 PM
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Olga as a young grand duchess.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on January 08, 2012, 03:45:20 PM
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Olga Nikolaevna.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on February 09, 2012, 07:10:48 PM
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Olga and Karl with Alexander II and Maria Alexandrovna.  Download for full size.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on February 15, 2012, 07:38:40 PM
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Olga Nikolaevna.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on March 11, 2012, 05:00:56 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7057/6973963945_88acf26ac4_b.jpg)

Olga Nikolaevna by Hau.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: THERRY on March 12, 2012, 03:51:52 AM
The last picture posted is beautiful and much appreciated Thank You Dru
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on April 04, 2012, 12:03:25 PM
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Olga by Winterhalter.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on April 16, 2012, 12:48:26 PM
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Olga by Buchner.  This one was completely new to me. 
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: cebi26 on June 02, 2012, 09:28:30 AM
Any specific reason why the King of Naples and the Austrian Emperor rejected GD Olga as a bride for their sons?
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on June 02, 2012, 01:30:52 PM
Any specific reason why the King of Naples and the Austrian Emperor rejected GD Olga as a bride for their sons?

I don't know about the King of Naples, but as far as the Austrians go, I believe there were religious complications, and Olga's aunt, Grand Duchess Alexandra Pavlovna, had married into the Habsburg family and been treated very badly.
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Post by: cebi26 on June 02, 2012, 05:07:00 PM
Thank You !
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on June 07, 2012, 04:32:42 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7101/7164340273_a75ec75f0a_b.jpg)

Olga and Karl with Vera's children (?)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Svetabel on June 07, 2012, 10:55:34 PM
Yes, those are Vera's daughters (twins)/
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on June 13, 2012, 04:53:00 PM
According to Nicholas I by Constantine de Grunwald, young Olga was attracted to an officer by the name of Prince Bariatinsky, so much so that he was sent away to the Caucasus.  However, the book only gives this a sentence or two, and I was wondering if anyone else has read anything or knows anything about it.  Thanks in advance.  
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Alexandrina-Sofia on June 14, 2012, 08:11:53 AM
P. Dolgorukov "Petersburg essays"
"Baryatinsky completely turned the head of his poor recollection of the fact that his grandmother was a princess of Holstein-Beck. His imagination was the idea of ​​marriage to achieve a Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna. Overconfidence and arrogance knows no limits Bariatinskii. To this end, he became the court to arrange their batteries and to maneuver between the reefs, which in this voyage was set.
Although Olga woman endowed with soul and all the wonderful feminine qualities, but not in his character has the ability to get involved ... Olga gifted intellect cold, sound mind and with the greater self-esteem .... ".
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on June 14, 2012, 12:33:14 PM
P. Dolgorukov "Petersburg essays"
"Baryatinsky completely turned the head of his poor recollection of the fact that his grandmother was a princess of Holstein-Beck. His imagination was the idea of ​​marriage to achieve a Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna. Overconfidence and arrogance knows no limits Bariatinskii. To this end, he became the court to arrange their batteries and to maneuver between the reefs, which in this voyage was set.
Although Olga woman endowed with soul and all the wonderful feminine qualities, but not in his character has the ability to get involved ... Olga gifted intellect cold, sound mind and with the greater self-esteem .... ".

Thank you, Alexandrina-Sofia; that's definitely helpful!
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 24, 2012, 08:06:17 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7138/7854210598_74ba93baa1_c.jpg)

Beautiful bust of Olga, by Vitali (I think).
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 25, 2012, 10:21:08 AM
Olga at her most beautiful I think. She was the one who toyed with Prince Alexander of Hesse's affections.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 29, 2012, 07:56:24 PM
Olga at her most beautiful I think. She was the one who toyed with Prince Alexander of Hesse's affections.

The Downfall of Three Dynasties by Corti describes Olga's "flirtation" with Alexander of Hesse in detail, if you're interested.  

Here is an image of Olga in mourning; I wonder for whom:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8170/7890981736_f2032ec9c6.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on September 04, 2012, 07:00:54 PM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8438/7933431292_cbf4ceef9e_b.jpg)

An engraving of Olga based on an apparently lost Winterhalter portrait.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on October 19, 2012, 03:11:07 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7013/6406886509_5ba5b9418c_b.jpg)

Olga.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on May 04, 2013, 07:50:10 PM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8552/8709139020_503b846e82_b.jpg)

Olga Nikolaevna by Hau.  I would love to see a better version of this.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 05, 2013, 04:20:41 PM
Most I read about her is that she wasn't a nice woman.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on May 05, 2013, 07:01:40 PM
Most I read about her is that she wasn't a nice woman.

She was most likely an unhappy woman, considering that her childless marriage wasn't exactly a smashing success, and the scandals surrounding her husband couldn't have made things better. 

Have you read her memoirs?  I don't think they're available in English, but you can read them online in Russian, or in print in German. 
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 06, 2013, 06:32:05 PM
Have not. They were not translated. She played a central part in the book "Downfall of Three Dynasties". She flirted with Alexander of Hesse but did not want to marry him. Queen Victoria did not like her as she made sure that the Tecks remained morganetic.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marc on May 07, 2013, 03:42:15 AM
Have not. They were not translated. She played a central part in the book "Downfall of Three Dynasties". She flirted with Alexander of Hesse but did not want to marry him. Queen Victoria did not like her as she made sure that the Tecks remained morganetic.

Eric,it's morganAtic,not morganEtic...just like the BettenbErgs are not BattenUrgs :-)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 07, 2013, 11:24:52 PM
Thanks. But Marc, Olga is still vicious and a bad girl, no change of opinion despite the spelling error.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marc on May 08, 2013, 02:19:56 AM
Thanks. But Marc, Olga is still vicious and a bad girl, no change of opinion despite the spelling error.

I agree with you on that :)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on May 10, 2013, 11:23:54 AM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7047/8689140171_abf920cd61_z.jpg)

Olga as crown princess of Wuerttemberg.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 10, 2013, 11:42:15 AM
She was quite pretty and attractive as a young woman, but so proud...
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on May 10, 2013, 04:35:55 PM
She was quite pretty and attractive as a young woman, but so proud...

According to August Theodor von Grimm:  "The majestic mien of the grand duchess Olga evinced more calm repose; hers was a finished beauty, more remarkable for stateliness, never in intercourse with other for a moment forgetting that she was of regal birth, and concealing her real goodness of heart by a certain degree of reserve. Her perceptive faculties were not so quick as those of her elder sister, but her studies more profound; her disposition led her thoroughly to investigate every subject and every question, and to persevere with industry and patience in all that she undertook."
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 12, 2013, 12:11:10 PM
Indeed. When you investigate every subject and question, you will definitely not be easy a person to live with and the stateliness spelled "proud".
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on June 10, 2013, 09:33:54 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7412/9011667523_9900122283_o.jpg)

Engraving of Olga based on the famous Robertson portrait.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on June 15, 2013, 02:44:19 PM
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Olga dancing.  Download for full size.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 15, 2013, 10:49:19 PM
Who is the lucky man here ?
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 16, 2013, 12:48:03 PM
It looks like Young Maximilian of Leuchtenberg dancing with Maria :-o
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 16, 2013, 12:55:22 PM
Then it was not Olga then since he did marry Maria.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on June 16, 2013, 02:48:33 PM
It is definitely Olga--I have a fuller, but less clear, version of the illustration (it's a piece of sheet music) that identifies Olga, but not her dance partner.  I can post it if you guys are interested :)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 17, 2013, 10:44:49 AM
Yes we are interested. Olga had so many beaus (including Alexander of Hesse & Maximilian of Bavaria).
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on June 17, 2013, 01:44:00 PM
Here you go.  I just love her gown :)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/9070176028_4e4d20abf3_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 17, 2013, 01:57:43 PM
Thanks...But who is the guy ?
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 08, 2013, 01:29:18 PM
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/9467871552_1da1bdd195_o.jpg)

Photograph of Olga.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 12, 2013, 07:47:21 PM
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Olga as Crown Princess of Wuerttemberg.  Courtesy of the Royal Collection.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marie Valerie on August 13, 2013, 01:25:09 PM
She looks sad in both pictures...

Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 13, 2013, 07:31:47 PM
She looks sad in both pictures...



Especially in the second picture.  I know it wasn't customary for people to smile much in photographs back then, but I don't think Olga had a very happy life, and that seems to be reflected in her facial expressions.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marie Valerie on August 14, 2013, 09:09:35 AM
I read in a german book that König Karl was in his old age bitter about Olga and became very anti-russian..

I feel sorry for Olga, she was so generous and did so much for the people of Württemberg.

Her lady-in-waiting Eveline von Massenbach (the photo below shows her) said about Olga: She was a Queen from head to toe.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Eveline-von-massenbach.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 14, 2013, 03:30:42 PM
What's the story on the lady in waiting...
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marie Valerie on August 15, 2013, 07:51:19 AM
Eveline von Massenbach wrote her memoirs "Das Tagebuch der Baronin Eveline von Massenbach" (The diary of Baroness Eveline von Massenbach).
She was very devoted to Olga. Her diary mentions Olga and the Württemberg Royal family almost daily.
There is much information about the life of Königin Olga in the book.
She wrote how sad Olga was (in private) when Princess Katharina presented her child (later König Wilhelm II.) proudly at court and she had no children of her own.

Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 18, 2013, 12:42:24 AM
You have the jacket of the book ?
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marie Valerie on August 18, 2013, 10:06:49 AM
(http://pics.cdn.librarything.com/picsizes/29/6a/296a8e22bcbeec85935534d5441437641414141.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 20, 2013, 07:05:49 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marie Valerie on August 30, 2013, 11:50:45 AM
"Das Tagebuch der Baronin Eveline von Massenbach" is a very interesting book.

Eveline was called "Eva" by the royal family, she accompanied Olga often to Russia and met her parents Nicholas I. and Alexandra (Charlotte).
Olga's mother liked Eva and begged her to stay with Olga. Shortly before her death the Empress Alexandra asks where Eva was. (She didn't make it in time, Olga departed earlier.)

In the book are many russian names and people mentioned who met Eva, in Stuttgart, the rest of Germany and Russia.

When Olga's niece Wera arrived in Stuttgart, she behaved very badly.
Eva wrote in her dairy that it is not good to keep the girl in the dark why she is brought here (to Württemberg).
If Karl and Olga didn't take care of Wera - she would have been given to a hospital or institution.

But no one told Wera and she felt betrayed by her parents who gave her away and her childless aunt who she made responsible for the seperation from her family.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on October 08, 2013, 04:14:23 PM
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5544/10161005744_2d7fd9ee40_o.jpg)

Olga.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on October 28, 2013, 08:41:24 PM
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Olga with Vera Konstantinovna.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marie Valerie on November 30, 2013, 03:28:36 PM
Olga was once visited in Stuttgart by the Duchess of Orleans.

The Duchess asked if Olgas children were with her - Olga said she had no children..

Later Olga wrote that in a letter to her mother: "If she makes a visit to us, she should have been looking in the Gotha before..."
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on December 01, 2013, 07:12:30 PM

Olga was once visited in Stuttgart by the Duchess of Orleans.

The Duchess asked if Olgas children were with her - Olga said she had no children..

Later Olga wrote that in a letter to her mother: "If she makes a visit to us, she should have been looking in the Gotha before..."

I feel so much sympathy for Olga.  People say she was bitter and mean, but who can blame her?  She never had children of her own, and it seems she really wanted them.  Her marriage was obviously less than idyllic, and it just seems like she was very lonely much of the time.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marie Valerie on December 02, 2013, 11:43:01 AM
In the Exhibition "Im Glanz der Zaren" in Stuttgart is a quote, by a court member, who says how cute and hearty Olga was with children.
Olga loved her niece (and problem child) Wera like her own, and also Weras twins were very close to her.
At the mentioned exhibition is a picture which shows Olga, after Karls death, hand in hand with her "granddaughter" Olga, Elsa stands behind them.
They were a sunbeam for her last years.

Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marie Valerie on December 02, 2013, 11:51:42 AM
(http://artgen.billerantik.de/articles/E/2786_P.jpg)

Queen-Widow Olga on her death bed

(http://artgen.billerantik.de/articles/E/2786_D.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marie Valerie on December 02, 2013, 12:01:54 PM
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German obituary

(http://artgen.billerantik.de/articles/E/2785_D.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on April 13, 2014, 01:59:05 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/13828396075_54694199ee_o.jpg)

I found this as Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna by Christina Robertson, but I'm not sure the sitter was correctly identified; to me, she looks a little young to be Olga in 1846.  What do you all think? 
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on June 07, 2014, 03:48:41 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3847/14388919583_409947f142_o.jpg)

Olga Nikolaevna.  I wish it were bigger so I could make out the artist's name...
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 13, 2014, 04:19:57 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3915/14907330721_9569d22315_o.jpg)

Miniature of Olga Nikolaevna.  I see a bit of a resemblance to her aunt Anna Pavlovna here.  From Réunion des Musées Nationaux Grand Palais.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on October 25, 2014, 06:19:18 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3941/15624402911_485e9eb8d1_o.jpg)

Olga with her pet dogs.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on March 28, 2015, 01:52:18 PM
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Miniature of Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna.  From vk.com group ДОМ РОМАНОВЫХ.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on August 22, 2015, 06:18:52 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/565/20610544248_ca491925f5_b.jpg)

Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna by Winberg.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: GDNastya on November 10, 2016, 11:59:15 AM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r174/GDNastya/Mobile%20Uploads/oFNkO_aqJ2g.jpg) (http://s144.photobucket.com/user/GDNastya/media/Mobile%20Uploads/oFNkO_aqJ2g.jpg.html)

Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Joanna on February 06, 2017, 05:40:45 PM
A Saxe-Coburg / Romanov Marriage in 1840?

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2017/01/a-saxe-coburg-romanov-marriage-in-1840.html

Joanna
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on February 12, 2017, 04:11:29 PM
Thanks for sharing this, Joanna--it's the first time I've ever heard of a possible match between Olga and Ernst of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. 
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Marc on February 13, 2017, 02:35:06 PM
Very interesting article...never heard about this marriage prospects before.

Love reading about those what could have been marriage plans :-)
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: Dru on March 03, 2017, 02:33:34 PM
http://adini-nikolaevna.tumblr.com/post/157953660015/grand-duchess-olga-nikolaevna-and-grand-duke#notes (http://adini-nikolaevna.tumblr.com/post/157953660015/grand-duchess-olga-nikolaevna-and-grand-duke#notes)

Olga Nikolaevna with her brother Konstantin by P.F. Sokolov.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: JGP on March 03, 2017, 10:31:19 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3847/14388919583_409947f142_o.jpg)

Olga Nikolaevna.  I wish it were bigger so I could make out the artist's name...

The artist is Pyotr Zakharovich Zakharov-Chechenets; 1816–1846.  This painting is in the Pushkin Museum of Fine Arts in Moscow.
Title: Re: Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna, Queen of Wuerttemberg
Post by: GDNastya on October 17, 2018, 05:03:26 AM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r174/GDNastya/ON.jpg) (http://s144.photobucket.com/user/GDNastya/media/ON.jpg.html)

Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna by Vladimir Hau