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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Wittlesbachs => Topic started by: roimat on December 05, 2006, 09:16:07 AM

Title: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: roimat on December 05, 2006, 09:16:07 AM
Can anyone inform me about the today Wittlesbachs? Is there any official sites for them?
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Lucien on December 05, 2006, 03:33:38 PM
The correct spelling is WITTELSBACH roimat.I know it's not spelled properly at the top,sounds more like a delicatessen on 57th and 5th... ::)

http://www.haus-bayern.com/

Courtesy dear Brigitte Gastel Lloydd:
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/franzbavaria1933album.htm

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/leopoldbavaria1943album.htm



Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on December 09, 2006, 12:29:34 PM
Prince Leopold of Bavaria (born 1943), called Prinz Poldi, is very popular with the Bavarian people. He is the elder son of Prince Konstantin (1920-1969) and his first wife Adelgunde Princess of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen (born 1921). Some years ago he took part in car races. He is married to Ursula "Uschi" Möhlenkamp (born 1947). The couple has four children. Their eldest son Manuel (born 1972) married Anna Princess zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg (born 1978) in August 2005. His godfather is the King of Sweden.
Title: Re: Todays Wittelsbach?
Post by: Lucien on December 09, 2006, 02:47:25 PM
Prince Poldi:

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1161606664&str...

TRH Prince Leopold and Princess Ursula
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1146391268&str...

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1096381803&str...

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1096383623&str...

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1070902861&str...

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1071289823&str...

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1073820990&str...
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Lucien on December 09, 2006, 02:51:05 PM
The correct spelling is WITTELSBACH roimat.I know it's not spelled properly at the top,sounds more like a delicatessen on 57th and 5th... ::)

I was ofcourse referring to the wrong spelling of the name Wittlesbach should be WITTELSBACH.Could one of the mods please change this to the proper name?Thanks in advance.
Lucien.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on December 10, 2006, 04:12:58 AM
You are right, Lucien. Although I am the moderator of this forum, I can't change it. But I will ask someone else for help.

Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Lucien on April 04, 2007, 12:44:13 AM
Princess Maria Anna,Duchess in Bavaria was engaged to Dr.Klaus Runow last thursday,march 29th.

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1175164208&str...

courtesy Seegerpress.
Title: Re: Todays Wittelsbach?
Post by: britt.25 on April 04, 2007, 12:53:16 PM
Prince Poldi:

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1161606664&str...

TRH Prince Leopold and Princess Ursula
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1146391268&str...

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1096381803&str...

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1096383623&str...

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1070902861&str...

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1071289823&str...

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1073820990&str...

He has very interesting ancestry. As far as I know he is a direct descendant of Franz Joseph and Elisabeth as well as of the late Saxony king Friedrich August through his daughter Margarethe. As Margarethes mother was Luise of Tuscany, he has also Habsburg ancestry from the Tuscany line ;)
Title: Re: Todays Wittelsbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on April 04, 2007, 04:05:38 PM
Among Duke Max Emanuel's five daughters, Maria Anna is my favourite one. At Tegernsee I was informed that Maria Anna is the official owner of Schloss Tegernsee.

Does anybody know more about Dr. Runow? (I hope, Maria Anna will keep her name ...  ::)) Where is he from? How old is he? What's his profession?

And when and where does the wedding take place? I'm quite sure that she will marry at Tegernsee just like her sisters.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on April 07, 2007, 05:51:37 AM
Here is some new information:

Maria Anna's wedding is going to take place at Tegernsee this summer. Just like her sisters Sophie, Marie Caroline and Elizabeth, Anna decided to marry at the church St. Quirinus, Tegernsee. (By the way: Empress Elisabeth of Austria's parents married in this church, too.)

Dr. Claus Runow is 39 years old and he works at the Citibank in London. After Dr. Terberger, Duchess Elizabeth's husband, he is the second common man who is to marry a Bavarian Princess.  ;)

I'm really curious about Anna's wedding dress. I'm sure that she will look absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Marc on April 10, 2007, 08:49:18 AM
Can anyone tell me more about Mr.Runow's ancestry?I was not able to wind online how he descends from Tuscany line...
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on April 10, 2007, 09:13:47 AM
Hey Marc,

I think britt.25 refered to Prinz Poldi as a descendant of Luisa of Tuscany and the last King of Saxony. As far as I know, Mr. Runow isn't royal at all.  ;)
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Marc on April 10, 2007, 04:30:44 PM
Oupps...Thank you for this correction!  ;)
Title: Todays Wittelsbach
Post by: Lucien on June 18, 2007, 05:35:43 AM
Princess Anna of Bavaria,néé Princess zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg,spouse of Prince Manuel gave birth to a son,Prince Leopold.

The couple on their wedding day at Stigtomta,Sweden:
http://www.royalpress.nl/20050806.html
 :)
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: britt.25 on June 19, 2007, 02:03:38 AM
Hey Marc,

I think britt.25 refered to Prinz Poldi as a descendant of Luisa of Tuscany and the last King of Saxony. As far as I know, Mr. Runow isn't royal at all.  ;)

Yes ;) I surely meant Poldi and not Runow, I don´t know about any royal roots of him...
Title: Todays Wittelsbach
Post by: Lucien on June 19, 2007, 03:35:14 AM
Princess Anna of Bavaria,néé Princess zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg,spouse of Prince Manuel gave birth to a son,Prince Leopold.

The couple on their wedding day at Stigtomta,Sweden:
http://www.royalpress.nl/20050806.html
 :)

Princess Elisabeth of Bavaria is "in blessed circumstances",the baby is due around november.
 :)
Title: Re: Todays Wittelsbach
Post by: MarieCharlotte on June 19, 2007, 07:17:12 AM
Princess Anna of Bavaria,néé Princess zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg,spouse of Prince Manuel gave birth to a son,Prince Leopold.

Great news!  ;) It seems like the baby is named after his paternal grandfather Prince Leopold "Poldi" of Bavaria. Leopold sounds a bit old-fashioned to German ears, but I like the traditional aspect in it. I'm curious about the baby's other names ...
Title: Re: Todays Wittelsbach
Post by: MarieCharlotte on June 19, 2007, 07:20:52 AM
Princess Anna of Bavaria,néé Princess zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg,spouse of Prince Manuel gave birth to a son,Prince Leopold.

The couple on their wedding day at Stigtomta,Sweden:
http://www.royalpress.nl/20050806.html
 :)

Princess Elisabeth of Bavaria is "in blessed circumstances",the baby is due around november.
 :)

Elizabeth and her husband Dr. Daniel Terberger had their first child, Maximilian, on August 30th 2005.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on August 24, 2007, 01:40:29 PM

Does anybody know when the wedding of Princess Anna takes place? I've always thought that it'll be in summer 2007? Are there any problems?
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: dmitri on August 26, 2007, 03:36:44 AM
It's nice to know the Wittlesbach family are continuing to live in private. Their greatest success is currently the wife of Hereditary Prince Alois of Liechtenstein. She managed to marry into a reigning family and become a real royal rather than being part of a family of pretenders.   

Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on August 26, 2007, 10:35:29 AM
It's nice to know the Wittlesbach family are continuing to live in private. Their greatest success is currently the wife of Hereditary Prince Alois of Liechtenstein. She managed to marry into a reigning family and become a real royal rather than being part of a family of pretenders.   

So you think that the Wittelsbachs aren't real royals and that they are just "a family of pretenders" ?? I'm absolutely shocked to read this lines ...
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: dmitri on August 26, 2007, 05:20:03 PM
Don't be shocked. They are now just pretenders. In a short number of years it will be 100 years since the abolition of the Bavarian monarchy. These people are merely pretenders. They are no longer royalty. There comes a time when they are merely pretending.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Linnea on August 27, 2007, 04:36:39 AM
and become a real royal rather   

Well the Liechtenstein-Family is a princely family (Alois is a HSH) so they aren´t "royal" either. :)
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: dmitri on August 27, 2007, 07:05:51 AM
That's a matter of opinion. The Liechtenstein family is accorded Sovereign Status as a reigning royal family.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Learning on August 27, 2007, 12:21:24 PM
Is their still a monarchist movement in Bavaria? Or has it died out?
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Linnea on August 27, 2007, 01:15:54 PM
There is in fact a movement called the "Guglmänner".
Title: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Lucien on August 28, 2007, 10:59:04 AM
It's nice to know the Wittlesbach family are continuing to live in private. Their greatest success is currently the wife of Hereditary Prince Alois of Liechtenstein. She managed to marry into a reigning family and become a real royal rather than being part of a family of pretenders.   

So you think that the Wittelsbachs aren't real royals and that they are just "a family of pretenders" ?? I'm absolutely shocked to read this lines ...

Of all the former Royal/Grandducal/Princely houses in Germany,The House of Wittelsbach is the one with the utmost prestige,to this very day it is regarded as THE Royal House by the Bavarians.As Bavaria isn't considered german by the Bavarians in their Free State of Bavaria as it is known,the Wittelsbach family is regarded with the utmost respect and fondness.Don't be shocked by ignorance,let "them"...n'importe pas.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: dmitri on August 28, 2007, 05:44:23 PM
Yes there is a nostalgia for the past. Ludwig II is fondly remembered as he put them on the map in many ways along with his grandfather Ludwig I. Bavaria is very different from other parts of Germany. I think Germany itself is an unusual entity which only came about through Bismarck and his "blood and iron" policy. It really was not something that the people themselves pushed for. You see the differences still today. Prussians are very different from Bavarians even now. Saxons are different again. Berlin was described as being like Sparta and Munich like the Athens on the Isar. The architecture that remains from pre 1918 tells it all.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Learning on August 29, 2007, 11:41:24 AM
But there is no serious movement to restore the Bavarian or other German monarchs, is there?
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Lucien on August 29, 2007, 03:52:46 PM
But there is no serious movement to restore the Bavarian or other German monarchs, is there?

No,none.Allthough there is a general sort of fondness,fascination even,with Royalty,especially the reigning Houses of Sweden and The Netherlands,there's no broad basis for a restauration,not even in Bavaria.
Title: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Lucien on September 04, 2007, 12:35:36 PM

Does anybody know when the wedding of Princess Anna takes place? I've always thought that it'll be in summer 2007? Are there any problems?

There isn't any problem at all Marie-Charlotte.
Bridal soiree at Nymphenburg Palace,München,yesterday:

http://members.boardhost.com/royalinsight/msg/1188889245.html
 :)

Courtesy Marianne,RWMB.

The wedding will be this saturday,september 8th,at Tegernsee.
Title: Wedding of HRH Duchess Maria Anna & Dr.Klaus Runow
Post by: Lucien on September 08, 2007, 07:00:42 AM
Tegernsee today:
http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=08-09-2007%20Tegernsee

Courtesy PPE/Albert Nieboer.
 :)
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Lucien on September 10, 2007, 06:49:14 AM
http://www.royalpress.nl/070908.html

Courtesy Albert Nieboer.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on January 08, 2008, 01:54:24 AM
Lucien, do you have any information about the birth of the second child of Elizabeth and Daniel Terberger? On Paul Theroff's website I read that the birth was expected in November. (By the way: I hope for a girl.)
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on January 26, 2008, 02:26:13 PM
Elizabeth in Bavaria and her husband Daniel Terberger had their second child. Ottora Elisabeth Victoria Lucia was born on 13 December 2007. What a name ... let's hope that the little girl isn't called Ottora in every day life. Apparently she was named after Ottora Countess Dougles, née Haas-Heye, Elizabeth's maternal grandmother.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: dmitri on January 26, 2008, 08:49:54 PM
Yes such an odd name.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on January 27, 2008, 09:51:23 AM
There seems to be a description for every name. This is what I found somewhere in the internet:

Ottora Elisabeth Victoria Lucia


Ottora - the name of the newly-born's maternal great-grandmother
Ottora Haas-Heye, Countess Carl Ludwig Douglas.

Elisabeth (with "s" rather than "z"?) - the name of her mother,
Princess Elizabeth, and grandmother, Princess Max, born Countess
Elizabeth Douglas.

Victoria - the name of her great-great-grandmother, mother of Ottora
Haas-Heye, Grafin Viktoria zu Eulenberg, the daughter of a prominent
Prussian diplomat and politician, Philipp, Fürst zu Eulenburg und
Hertefeld (born in Königsberg, the former Capital of the Teutonic
Order, today still occupied by Russia, under the totally Soviet
name, Kaliningrad), a one time Prussian Ambassador to Bavaria, who
married a Swedish Countess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp,_Prince_of_Eulenburg-Hertefeld

Grafin Viktoria married Otto Haas-Heye, a Heidelberg Professor and
aesthete, who creatively linked the world of Fine Art with women's
fashion in the post-1914 years in Germany. No wonder, then, that
Princess Max has an elegance and dress sense - and has imbued her
daughters with the same - quite hors pair.

Lucia - as Noel mentions, named after St. Lucy, whose feast it is on
December 13, the day when little Ottora was born. The feast of St.
Lucy is particularly popular amongst the Swedish people, as the day
when they light their Advent Candle (Lucy = Lux = Light) before
Christmas.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Linnea on January 28, 2008, 12:39:28 PM
Hopefully the little one will be called Lucia, it´s such a lovey name IMO. :) December 13th "Luciadagen" is a great holiday in Sweden and (Ex-?) Duchess Elsiabeth´s mother is of Swedish origin so this might have been the reason of chosing this name as Lucia is a rather unknown saint in Germany unlike Nicholas etc.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on January 28, 2008, 03:19:26 PM
Elizabeth's name is Terberger, but officially she still uses "Herzogin in Bayern". I am quite surprised that Ottora's second name Elisabeth is spelled with "s".

Patrick Graf Faber-Castell and his wife, actress Mariella Ahrens, called their daughter Lucia Marie Caroline. ;-)
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: dmitri on January 28, 2008, 07:07:59 PM
It's all rather meaningless anyway. Their titles are not recognised.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on January 31, 2008, 01:18:38 PM
It's all rather meaningless anyway. Their titles are not recognised.

But it sounds really nice. ;-)
Title: Todays Wittlesbach
Post by: Lucien on March 19, 2008, 06:51:29 AM
Variations on a theme,four weddings and....

http://members.boardhost.com/royalinsight/msg/1205896086.html

Courtesy MarieC,RWMB.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Lucien on October 21, 2008, 10:32:49 AM
HRH Prince Ludwig of Bavaria passed away -aged 95- at Schloss Leutstetten,Bavaria last friday october 17th.

HRH was a grandson of King Ludwig III,and is survived by his spouse,His son Prince Luitpold ( Poldi) and five grandchildren.

The funeral will be at the abbey at Andechs.Interment will take place at the Wittelsbach Family cemetary at the Benedictine Abbey Andechs,

http://www.royaltyguide.nl/countries/germany/andechs/klosterfriedhof.htm

Courtesy Mardam.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Marlene on October 21, 2008, 02:35:11 PM
Poldi?  That's the nickname of Prince Leopold of Bavaria (the former race car driver). Not Prince Luitpold.

HRH Prince Ludwig of Bavaria passed away -aged 95- at Schloss Leutstetten,Bavaria last friday october 17th.

HRH was a grandson of King Ludwig III,and is survived by his spouse,His son Prince Luitpold ( Poldi) and five grandchildren.

The funeral will be at the abbey at Andechs.Interment will take place at the Wittelsbach Family cemetary at the Benedictine Abbey Andechs,

http://www.royaltyguide.nl/countries/germany/andechs/klosterfriedhof.htm

Courtesy Mardam.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: Lucien on October 21, 2008, 04:13:49 PM
Poldi?  That's the nickname of Prince Leopold of Bavaria (the former race car driver). Not Prince Luitpold.

HRH Prince Ludwig of Bavaria passed away -aged 95- at Schloss Leutstetten,Bavaria last friday october 17th.

HRH was a grandson of King Ludwig III,and is survived by his spouse,His son Prince Luitpold and five grandchildren.

The funeral will be at the abbey at Andechs.Interment will take place at the Wittelsbach Family cemetary at the Benedictine Abbey Andechs,

http://www.royaltyguide.nl/countries/germany/andechs/klosterfriedhof.htm

Courtesy Mardam.

Leopold (1943) is Poldi,Constantin's son married to Ursula,Luitpold (1951) dear Marlene,married to the Princess Beatrix,néé Wiegand.

And this is HRH Prince Ludwig:
http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/wittelsbach/bavariakings3/1913%20Ludwig.JPG

courtesy Mardam.
Title: Re: Todays Wittlesbach?
Post by: MarieCharlotte on October 22, 2008, 02:06:55 AM
HRH Prince Ludwig of Bavaria passed away -aged 95- at Schloss Leutstetten,Bavaria last friday october 17th.

HRH was a grandson of King Ludwig III,and is survived by his spouse,His son Prince Luitpold ( Poldi) and five grandchildren.

The funeral will be at the abbey at Andechs.Interment will take place at the Wittelsbach Family cemetary at the Benedictine Abbey Andechs,

http://www.royaltyguide.nl/countries/germany/andechs/klosterfriedhof.htm

Courtesy Mardam.

I feel really sorry for Princess Irmingard. They had been married for 58 years ...
Title: Wittlesbach Diamond on sale at Christie's,London
Post by: Lucien on November 09, 2008, 08:44:58 AM
Among the "present day Wittlsbach's", there's this pigeon egg of a diamond,what a nice thought for Christmas....

The Fantastic Wittelsbach Diamond,35.56 carats,will be up for auction at Christies London on december 11th.

Courtesy Richard & Nellie,RJWMB.

http://members2.boardhost.com/royal-jewels/msg/1225927209.html

http://famousdiamonds.tripod.com/wittelsbachdiamond.html

Title: Princess Alice of Bavaria to marry Prince Lukas of Auersperg
Post by: Lucien on March 24, 2009, 05:18:54 AM
Princess Alice,the second of five children of HRH Prince Luitpold and Beatrix Wiegland,met her beau at the University of Edinburgh.
Prince Lukas of Auersperg is the eldest of the four children of Prince Andreas of Auersperg and Julia Griffith.

The wedding date is set on august 29th 2009.

More on Netty's:

http://www.nettyroyal.nl/

Title: Re: Princess Alice of Bavaria to marry Prince Lukas of Auersperg
Post by: Marc on March 24, 2009, 08:37:08 AM
Interesting...Princess Alice Isabelle Marie of Bavaria has descended herself from Auersperg family(through Princess Sophie von Auersperg who died in 1901)...
Title: Princess Alice of Bavaria to marry Prince Lukas of Auersperg
Post by: Lucien on March 25, 2009, 07:56:23 AM
Princess Alice,the second of five children of HRH Prince Luitpold and Beatrix Wiegland,met her beau at the University of Edinburgh.
Prince Lukas of Auersperg is the eldest of the four children of Prince Andreas of Auersperg and Julia Griffith.

The wedding date is set on august 29th 2009.

More on Netty's:

http://www.nettyroyal.nl/



Auersperg:
http://pages.prodigy.net/ptheroff/gotha/auersperg.html

Bavaria:
http://pages.prodigy.net/ptheroff/gotha/bavaria.html

Courtesy Paul Theroff.
Title: Re: Princess Alice of Bavaria to marry Prince Lukas of Auersperg
Post by: Jose II on March 26, 2009, 01:26:33 PM
Strange, this site says they are married.
The closest link between them:


http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=pt;spouse=on;m=RL;i=5240;l1=8;i1=323380;l2=7;i2=297507

And no, Alice is not a descendant from Pss. Sophie of Auersperg ?
Or is she a descendant through her mother Karin ?
Title: Re: Princess Alice of Bavaria to marry Prince Lukas of Auersperg
Post by: Marc on March 28, 2009, 06:57:20 AM
Yes,she is descedant of Princess Sophie von Auersperg,but through her father,not mother Katrin Beatrix:


                                                              Princess Sophie von Auersperg(1811-1901)
                                                                                         I
                                                              Princess Eleonore von Arenberg(1845-1919)
                                                                                         I
                                                              Princess Ludmilla von Arenberg(1870-1953)
                                                                                         I
                                                              Princess Isabella von Croÿ(1890-1982)
                                                                                         I
                                                              Prince Ludwig of Bavaria (1913-2008)
                                                                                         I
                                                              Prince Luitpold of Bavaria,born in 1951
                                                                                         I
                                                              Princess Alice Isabelle Marie of Bavaria,born in 1981
 

Title: Re: Princess Alice of Bavaria to marry Prince Lukas of Auersperg
Post by: MarieCharlotte on March 29, 2009, 06:57:09 PM
I just searched the internet for some more information and found out that there has been no public announcement of this wedding. It was Netty Leistra who had a look at bridal registry lists (too much free time??) and found the entry about Alice and Lukas by accident.

Now my question: Why did she reveal this detail about a previously private concern like a wedding? Maybe the couple wanted to have a quiet day in August - now the press will be there for sure. I can't understand such an indiscreet behaviour.
Title: Re: Princess Alice of Bavaria to marry Prince Lukas of Auersperg
Post by: Marlene on March 31, 2009, 10:06:10 AM


They are not married.  Alice used her soon-to-be married name on her scientific paper for 2009.   I was in contact with Alice last week

Strange, this site says they are married.
The closest link between them:


http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=pt;spouse=on;m=RL;i=5240;l1=8;i1=323380;l2=7;i2=297507

And no, Alice is not a descendant from Pss. Sophie of Auersperg ?
Or is she a descendant through her mother Karin ?
Title: Re: Princess Alice of Bavaria to marry Prince Lukas of Auersperg
Post by: Marlene on March 31, 2009, 10:11:42 AM
The internet is not the end all and be all for information.  The engagement could been mentioned, for example, in several German newspapers -- you won't find that by googling ... you would have to search through a newspaper's website -- or through any number of online databases (which are not free).  Netty only gave the date of the wedding.  My blog included the place (Kloster Andechs) as the bride-to be gave me the exact place. 
I just searched the internet for some more information and found out that there has been no public announcement of this wedding. It was Netty Leistra who had a look at bridal registry lists (too much free time??) and found the entry about Alice and Lukas by accident.

Now my question: Why did she reveal this detail about a previously private concern like a wedding? Maybe the couple wanted to have a quiet day in August - now the press will be there for sure. I can't understand such an indiscreet behaviour.
Title: Re: Princess Alice of Bavaria to marry Prince Lukas of Auersperg
Post by: Jose II on April 07, 2009, 04:04:42 PM


They are not married.  Alice used her soon-to-be married name on her scientific paper for 2009.   I was in contact with Alice last week

Strange, this site says they are married.
The closest link between them:


http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=pt;spouse=on;m=RL;i=5240;l1=8;i1=323380;l2=7;i2=297507


The site was corrected.
Now it says she is engaged , not married

And no, Alice is not a descendant from Pss. Sophie of Auersperg ?
Or is she a descendant through her mother Karin ?
Title: Re: Princess Alice of Bavaria to marry Prince Lukas of Auersperg
Post by: Jose II on April 07, 2009, 04:05:22 PM
Are there any pictures of the couple or must we wait until Summer ?
Title: The Wittelsbach House Today
Post by: belianis on May 06, 2009, 05:20:11 PM
May I ask for pictures of the present-day House Wittelsbach? I want to know if there are Wittelsbach women today as beautiful as Sissi.
Wittelsbach means White Brook, which means that the famous blue and white arms of Bavaria are a picture of water.
Title: Re: The Wittelsbach House Today
Post by: REMI on May 07, 2009, 02:38:32 AM
May I ask for pictures of the present-day House Wittelsbach? I want to know if there are Wittelsbach women today as beautiful as Sissi.
Wittelsbach means White Brook, which means that the famous blue and white arms of Bavaria are a picture of water.


See The Jacobite Heritage

http://www.jacobite.ca/kings/index/htm

click on : the Jacobote kings and their heirs
Title: Re: The Wittelsbach House Today
Post by: REMI on May 07, 2009, 02:41:15 AM
http://jacobite.ca/kings
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: Stefan22 on September 08, 2009, 10:41:14 AM
On 29. August the Wedding of Princess Alice and Prince Lukas of Auersperg took place at Andechs. I was there and you can find my pictures and a report here:
http://royaltravel.blogspot.com/2009/09/alice-and-lukas-andechs-29082009.html

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc109/royal-travel/Alice%20and%20Lukas/P1040988.jpg)
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: MarieCharlotte on September 08, 2009, 11:31:42 AM
Dear Stefan, thanks a lot for sharing these wonderful pictures with us. The groom seemed to be extremely happy and the bride looked really beautiful.
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 08, 2009, 04:57:38 PM
Is very interesting to know the modern Wittelsbachs, thank you for post all the images.Excuse me
but who of the memebers of the couple is the Wittelsbach?
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: MarieCharlotte on September 08, 2009, 07:26:53 PM
Excuse me but who of the memebers of the couple is the Wittelsbach?

Princess Alice of Bavaria, younger daughter of Prince Luitpold (himself the only surviving child of the late Prince Ludwig)
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 10, 2009, 07:23:00 PM
Excuse me but who of the memebers of the couple is the Wittelsbach?

Princess Alice of Bavaria, younger daughter of Prince Luitpold (himself the only surviving child of the late Prince Ludwig)

Ok. Thanks!! ;-)
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: MarieCharlotte on January 18, 2010, 04:16:42 PM
Princess Anna of Bavaria, née Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein, gave birth to a little daughter, Alva. Congratulations!
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: MarieCharlotte on May 06, 2010, 02:35:43 PM
Anna Duchess in Bavaria gave birth to her first child:

Heinrich Maria Leopold Maximilian was born on 3 May 2010. He was 54 cm tall and his weight was 3850g.

The little boy is the 11th granddchild of Duke Max Emanuel and his wife Elizabeth, née Douglas.


My congratulations! :-)

Title: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: Lucien on May 12, 2012, 12:36:51 PM

HRH Princess Felipa of Bavaria married Mr.Christian Dienst at the Wieskirche,Steingarden today:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=12-05-2012%20Bayern

courtesy PPE
Title: HRH Duke Franz of Bavaria
Post by: Lucien on December 29, 2012, 08:17:53 AM
HRH Duke Franz of Bavaria,Head of the House of Wittelsbach is ill.The 79 year old has been diagnosed with lymphatic cancer
and will undergo chemotherapy.As was announcement by the administration of the Royal House a month ago....
The Duke and his partner live at Nymphenburg Palace,where he also was born.

http://www.mittelbayerische.de/nachrichten/oberpfalz-bayern/artikel/sorge-um-herzog-franz-von-bayern/851142/sorge-um-herzog-franz-von-bayern.html





Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: THERRY on July 24, 2013, 07:13:41 AM
July 14 eightieth birthday of Duke Franz
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/franz-herzog-von-bayern-feiert-royal-und-rustikal-1.1728123
(http://imageshack.us/a/img7/6378/vcmq.jpg)
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: Marie Valerie on September 21, 2013, 02:28:25 PM
Are there some news about the child (son) of Prinzessin Auguste von Bayern (33)?
In July she was eight months pregnant... since then I've heard no more of it.
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: MarieCharlotte on September 26, 2013, 03:16:32 AM
Are there some news about the child (son) of Prinzessin Auguste von Bayern (33)?
In July she was eight months pregnant... since then I've heard no more of it.

I haven't heard anything about Auguste's child. I also tried to find some information about the child of Princess Felipa and Christian Dienst. I guess the baby must have been born around April.
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: Marie Valerie on January 18, 2014, 12:05:03 PM
Princess Augustes child is Louis-Ferdinand Prinz zur Lippe-Weissenfeld born 16. Sept. 2013

Princess Felipa and Christian Dienst child is August Dienst born 15. Apr. 2013
Title: Re: The current members of the House of Wittelsbach
Post by: Marie Valerie on April 12, 2015, 10:11:26 AM
I read on the Online Gotha, that Prince Manuel and Princess Anna of Bavaria had their third child, a son Gabriel born in 2015...
But there is no other source that mention this child...
Did anyone of you know more about it?


1g) Manuel Maria Alexander Leopold Jerg, b.Starnberg 27 Dec 1972; m.Nyköping, Sweden 6 Aug 2005 Anna Pss zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg (b.Munich 15 Mar 1978)
1h) Leopold Maria Bengt Karl Manuel, b.Munich 13 Jun 2007
2h) Alva Manuelle Maria Petra Yvonne, b.Munich 5 Jan 2010
3h) Gabriel (b.2015)

Link: http://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/bavaria.html