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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Imperial Family => Topic started by: hikaru on April 03, 2007, 01:03:34 AM

Title: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 03, 2007, 01:03:34 AM
I would like to start a new thread about the travel, life, home of Romanovs in Italy.
I would like to start from a question about  Villa Sciarra in Rome where KR lived in 1881 and where he met often with Tchaikowsky.
Is this Villa still exist?
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 03, 2007, 01:04:37 AM
I have found out that the address in the letter was written as: Villa Sciarra. D. Pietro in Montorio Roma.
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 03, 2007, 11:40:30 AM
Pavel 1 liked to visit  "Antico Caffee Greco" in Roma.
This oldest caffee still exists.
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 13, 2007, 03:03:30 AM
KR was at Genova on September 1895. He wrote a poetry about Genova Sea.
The name of the verse: "By the sea".
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: gem_10 on April 15, 2007, 08:08:37 AM
Serge visited Italy before his marriage to Ella in 1884.
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 17, 2007, 01:13:29 AM
Serge also spent almost a year in Italy - since the May of 1880(immediately after the death of his beloved mother) till the march of 1881 (he had to return immediately due to the death of Alexander II).
He started to learn Italian because he wanted to read Dante in original version.
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 17, 2007, 02:10:35 AM
GD Sergey Alexandrovith liked Fiorentina Painture, especially Fra Beato Angelico.
He started to collect paintures beeing in Italy.
In Fiorenza he became a friend with the Head of the Fiorentina Academia delle Arte Mr. Kiavacci, who became his consultant.
So Elizaveta Feodorovna became the admirer of the Fiorentina school and Medici period too.

Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 17, 2007, 02:41:02 AM
GD Nikolay Konstantinovitch and Fanny Lire made a romantic travel through Italy: Bologna, Venezia, Roma, Bari, Brindizi, Amalfi, Sorrento, Capri, Napoli, Fiorenza, Milan, Triest.
In Roma they spent a lot of money in the antique shops.
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 17, 2007, 03:33:59 AM
 GD Sergey also went to Italy with Ella in October of 1892.
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: gem_10 on April 17, 2007, 06:49:17 AM
GD Sergey also went to Italy with Ella in October of 1892.

Yes I remembered reading that somewhere. And many Italians were struck with Ella's beauty.  ;)
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 19, 2007, 10:49:14 AM
Olyga Alexandrovna , Peter of Oldenburg , Mikhail Alexandrovith and Dina - first freilina of Olyga Alexanrovna went to Sorrento.
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 19, 2007, 11:09:22 AM
At March of 1914, Dmitry Pavlovitch went to Palermo to get a treatment.
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 19, 2007, 11:24:37 AM
IN the wintertime of 1900, Gd Mikhail Mikhailovitch and GD Georgy Mikhaylovitch stayed at the "Grand Hotel" of Rome.
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: hikaru on April 19, 2007, 11:26:59 AM
At winter of 1903 GD Kyrill and GD Boris went with russian cruiserships to Napoli.
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: Eutropius on April 19, 2007, 12:02:07 PM
I remember reading that Queen Elena of Italy arranged for Pr Ioann Konstantinovich and Princess Helena of Serbia (her niece) to meet in Italy.  They had a brief courtship and became engaged.

edit: niece not grandniece
Title: Italian Exile?!?!
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on January 27, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
Recently, someone I know said that on a trip to somewhere in Italy, they met someone who remembered his father telling him a story about the Tsar and his family in Italy, and that they were exiled there.  ??? Of course it can't be Tsar Nicholas, unless it was just a state visit, not exile, and they were mistaken, so could someone please clear this up for me?

By the way, there was a humorus bit: the Tsarina was terrifed because of a ghost or a mouse in her room, i can't remember which. ;D
Title: Re: Italian Exile?!?!
Post by: Forum Admin on January 27, 2010, 06:10:06 PM
Not the Russian Imperial Family.  Nicholas II was in Italy just once, and the Empress did not accompany him. I don't believe Alexandra was ever even in Italy.  Since there were no Russian Emperors ever exiled out of Russia this story is just fiction.  Perhaps it was some long ago Grand Duke? or maybe some other European Royal?? Certainly not any Russian Ruler
Title: Re: Italian Exile?!?!
Post by: Ally Kumari on January 28, 2010, 02:52:41 AM
Alexandra visited Italy when still Princess of Hesse.

From Sophie Buxhoeveden´s book:

"In January 1893 Princess Alix paid her second visit to Berlin, con-ling up for the wedding of two cousins, Prince Frederick Charles of Hesse and Princess Margarethe of Prussia. She fell ill there (with inflammation of the ears) and was advised to recuperate in a warmer climate. So her brother took her to Italy in the early spring of 1893. They went first to Florence, where Queen Victoria was staying at the Villa Palmieri, and then to Venice. Both were artistic and fully appreciated the beauties of Italy. Princess Alix was too busy sight-seeing with her relations, whom she met in great numbers on that trip, to write much; still she managed to send her old friend and governess, Miss Jackson, her "darling Madgie," "A few lines from your beloved Venice."
 
"We have been favoured with the finest weather [she wrote] so that you can imagine how enjoyable all has been. It is like a dream, so different to anything one has ever seen. And how interesting the different style of painting to the Florentines. . . . The delightful sensation of being rowed in a gondola and the peace and quiet. We used to take our tea on some island or other. . . . What a dream of beauty Florence also. . . . That view from San Miniato is too exquisite. Now we have once been here, I fear that we shall always long to come again."
Title: Re: The Imperial Family and Italy
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on January 28, 2010, 05:10:38 PM
Thank you!
It must have gotten mixed up.