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Imperial Claimants Post Here / Re:  past lives?
« on: May 18, 2005, 02:33:42 PM »
Just want to put my 2 cents in:  there is a wonderful site on reincarnation: http://childpastlives.org/ and there is a great forum there: http://childpastlives.org/vBulletin/


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What happened to her boys--John and Anthony?  Are they still living?  Where she met Frank--her husband (I read their names on the website);
Anyone knows?  Thanks:)

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The woman who claimed to be the 5th daughter is different from granny Alena claimant;   She claimed to be the 5th daughter Irina;  She looks in the picture a lot like the Empress, but there is not much following up on her story, only one article published long time ago;  Granny Alena is a very interesting case because she was not seeking any recognition and now because her relatives are interested in conducting invesigation into this case;  Would be great to learn more...

Thanks,

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I see what you mean about the chin structure--both faces look really very much alike;  I do not know enough about DNA--may be they still can do analysis but because of the condition of the soil the results could not be predicted with much accuracy?  Still would be interesting to get a result;  I think the test on her children could be done as well to see if they are related to IF;  Waiting for Alice to come back--and see if she can bring any news???

Then there is logic--how could she escape?  Surely she might have escaped (if that is indeed her) before the shooting took place--she looks without any scars;

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Little pieces of the puzzle
« on: March 07, 2005, 12:49:11 PM »
I beleive the scientists verified that Anastasia skeleton was there--but Maria's was missing;  I wish at least someone survived;

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The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: AA and the Russian Language
« on: March 07, 2005, 12:32:03 PM »
AA does not look at all as FS--she could not have been a FS based on many facts--her educatoin, for one;  Her scars and the knowledge of details plus handwriting tells the story she could not be just another claimant;  But she does not look to me as Anastasia either--she is different--did someone notice that her eyebrows shape is more arched than Anastasia's?  I thought that that shape does not change through life;  I just feel she is not Anastasia--but then who is she?  A mystery case;  Based not on appearance but on handwriting and details, same height, same scars I would say she is a clone:)))

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The Imperial Family / Re: Historical Anecdotes
« on: March 04, 2005, 10:30:37 AM »
 :D

Olga:
When her mother decided to have portraits painted, the artist informed her that rather than paint from photographs he must paint her children from life. "Even to paint their frocks he insisted upon them sitting to him for three or four hours each day," Miss Eagar relates. "Of course the poor children got very impatient, and one day the little Grand Duchess Olga lost her temper and said to the artist, 'You are a very ugly man, and I don't like you a bit!'"

:) :P

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The Imperial Family / Re: Historical Anecdotes
« on: March 04, 2005, 10:29:01 AM »
Ohhh...That's precious:  (more about Olga):

;)

During a visit to Darmstadt in the fall of 1899, Olga, her slightly older cousin Elizabeth (Ella) and two-year-old Tatiana were escorted by Miss Eagar to a local toyshop. The children had been told they might select toys for both themselves and as gifts. After looking at everything, however, Olga chose the smallest toy, then refused to consider any other acquisitions. Finally Miss Eagar took her aside and asked why she wasn't buying more. Olga responded, "But the beautiful toys belong to some other little girls, I am sure; and think how sad they would be if they came home and found we had taken them while they were out."

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The Imperial Family / Re: Historical Anecdotes
« on: March 04, 2005, 10:26:36 AM »
Laready been told, but re-counting the same episode:

One day, Miss Eagar relates, while she and the Grand Duchess were out driving along the Nevsky Prospect, Olga "was not good. I was speaking to her, trying to induce her to sit down quietly, when suddenly she did so, folding her hands in front of her. In a few seconds she said to me, 'Did you see that policeman?'" Miss Eagar told her the policeman would not bother her. Olga replied, "But this one was writing something; I was afraid he might have been writing 'I saw Olga, and she was very naughty.'" Miss Eager said this would be highly unlikely, but Olga reminded her-"rather reproachfully"-that some time before she had seen a drunken woman arrested in the street, and had asked Miss Eagar to tell the police not to hurt her. Miss Eagar, however, had refused to interfere, saying that "the woman was naughty and the police quite right in taking her." Miss Eagar responded to this irrefutable fact by stating that a person had to be quite big and very naughty before the police would take that person to prison. Nevertheless, upon returning home Olga asked everyone if a policeman had come by while she was out, then recounted the entire story to her father. Had her father ever been a prisoner? she asked. The Emperor answered that he had never been quite naughty enough to go to prison, where upon Olga replied with much admiration, "Oh! How very good you must have been!"
:)

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The Imperial Family / Re: Historical Anecdotes
« on: March 04, 2005, 10:24:40 AM »
Comparing babies...:)))
Nicky joked about an upcoming visit from Olga's slightly older cousin Irina-"I can just see them pulling each other's hair and quarrelling over the toys" - then added that

"I still can't believe that Xenia is the mother of two children! Her Andrusha is a big, healthy boy, but still very ugly; please don't you tell her that. All parents always think that their children are the most beautiful in the world."  :) :) :)

Interestingly enough, soon Mary made this record:

Later Marie would write, with her own brand of frankness, that she found Olga's sturdy appearance "remarkably ugly"-all the more so, perhaps, when contrasted to the delicate looks of Baby Tatiana.

:)  Seems to prove Nicky's words...:)

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The Imperial Family / Re: Historical Anecdotes
« on: March 04, 2005, 10:20:03 AM »
When Olga was born, Nicky wrote to his brother George: "First of all we are going to Austria, then Kiev, Germany, Denmark, England, France and finally Darmstadt; there at least we can hope for a complete rest . . . On top of it, we shall have to drag our poor little daughter with us, as all the relatives want to see her. I can imagine what the French will get up to in Paris-maybe they will rename [her] Napoleondra, or something like it!"

Napoleandra--I like that!  :) ;D :D

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Am I wrong or this woman was a claimant in the 70's?  Is she still with us and still a claimant?  The article was done long time ago--at this time Romanov remains were not found yet and DNA test was not as easily taken as they are now--still not so easy.  
Based on the likeness of her to Alix, I would consider it is an interesting lead--even if she is not with us any longer, I hope there is still a chance to do the DNA and find out who she is and how she related to the family if she is related;  

But how to find her?  There is no info on her--probably she went unnoticed before we got our web connections;

B.t.w.--I love your point about Tobolsk--about freedom of movement and going to church--if there was some freedome there, then I wonder why did they not try to escape--or smuggle their kids out with someone--did not they get the feeling of danger to their lives?

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The Imperial Family / Re: The Imperial children "sad,sheltered" life?
« on: March 02, 2005, 02:42:33 PM »
 ;)They definetly were...I will find the account of entry by the hospital woman who worked with Olga and Tatiana, and she wrote that they knew "next to nothing" about the outside world--even by "back then" standards they were considered somewhat immature as they spoke in nursery language between themselves--personally I do not think it shows that they were not developed--just that they were isolated--and did not socialize--even as they grew older, their rooms were still called "nursery" and they were considered still "girls" for their mother--elder were referred to as big girls;  They did not know a lot of people outside their family and they did not participate in the activities of their peers--there were only few times that N. himself accompanies their elder daughters to the theatre;  

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She <Irina> looks very much like them--amazing likeness!  But where is the proof--why do all these claimants that are alive don't take the DNA test and let people know that it is not just another bogus claim?  The nowday technology permits it...Without it--the claim is nothing.  

Any more info on her?  What is her adoptive family name?  Does she has children?  

The only thing there is likeness--I do not know genetics enough to say if the nature can produce people who are so alike but not related--but children often look different from their parents!  Look at the Romanov family--does any one there looked like a dead-on copy of Alexandra?  I do not think so;

Besides, the story is hard to beleive--how is Romanovs could have another daughter without any sources mentioning that Alexandra is pregnant?  No diary records, no mentioning by family and friends--and how they concealed it from soldiers?  

My impression was that they hoped for the best and endured the rough treatment but still did not expect the end they met--if they suspected that new regime wanted to kill them, they would at least try to smuggle the children out--to seek some escape--even if kids were ill with measles at the time;  I do not think they comprehended the gravity of their situation--so I do not think they would go to extra super unhuman lengh to conceal another pregnancy and childbirth in captivity.

Suppose --as unprobable as it sounds--A. was expecting and they did managed to conceal it  --and the daughter is born and only family --not captors --know about it--how she was smuggled?  The German cousin came?  How he managed to get close to them and where he came from?

The story frankly does not hold at all;  Even if I really wanted it to be--but it really does not;  

Any thoughts?  I did a search and there is nothing on her;

May be considering the likeness, she is some relative?    

What do you guys think?  Keep on posting!  Thanks,  ???

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She <Irina> looks very much like them--amazing likeness!  But where is the proof--why do all these claimants that are alive don't take the DNA test and let people know that it is not just another bogus claim?  The nowday technology permits it...Without it--the claim is nothing.  

Any more info on her?  What is her adoptive family name?  Does she has children?  

The only thing there is likeness--I do not know genetics enough to say if the nature can produce people who are so alike but not related--but children often look different from their parents!  Look at the Romanov family--does any one there looked like a dead-on copy of Alexandra?  I do not think so;

Besides, the story is hard to beleive--how is Romanovs could have another daughter without any sources mentioning that Alexandra is pregnant?  No diary records, no mentioning by family and friends--and how they concealed it from soldiers?  

My impression was that they hoped for the best and endured the rough treatment but still did not expect the end they met--if they suspected that new regime wanted to kill them, they would at least try to smuggle the children out--to seek some escape--even if kids were ill with measles at the time;  I do not think they comprehended the gravity of their situation--so I do not think they would go to extra super unhuman lengh to conceal another pregnancy and childbirth in captivity.

Suppose --as unprobable as it sounds--A. was expecting and they did managed to conceal it  :o--and the daughter is born and only family --not captors --know about it--how she was smuggled?  The German cousin came?  How he managed to get close to them and where he came from?

The story frankly does not hold at all;  Even if I really wanted it to be--but it really does not;

Any thoughts?  I did a search and there is nothing on her;

May be considering the likeness, she is some relative?   ???

What do you guys think?  Keep on posting!  Thanks,

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