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The Final Chapter / Re: People Being 'Horrified' by OTMAA's Murders?
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:09:54 AM »
Both my grandmother and my mother said they thought Russians were savage people because they killed their own royal family. Grandma was born in 1906 and mom in 1936. Horrified didn't begin to describe their emotions about the children being killed.

As we saw with the 2016 Presidential election in the US, women can be trashed and their reputations destroyed with far more ease than can men. It is disgusting and demoralizing to see this happen but it has happened many times throughout history. Alexandra is but an example.

The Myth and Legends of Survivors / Re: Offers of Asylum - How Many?
« on: March 30, 2018, 11:34:51 PM »
Ally, thank you so much for finding the citation regarding VMH's offer to take in her nieces! I wasn't able to give Ilana Miller the info before her bio went to press.

Nuclear DNA tests undertaken after the first round proved that the 5 corpses believed to be those of Nicholas and Alexandra's children were in fact fathered by Nicholas II in addition to being mothered by Alexandra. Anna Anderson has been proven to have no relationship to either of the two sovereigns and was in fact Franziska Shankowska.

The current head of the Romanov Family Association is HH Princess Olga Andreevna of Provender, Kent, UK.

Having Fun! / Re: New Anastasia movie coming out this year.
« on: March 29, 2018, 03:36:04 PM »
To paraphrase Olga Alexandrovna, because people want to believe the fairy tale.

Even if Grand Duchess Elizabeth and Prince Nicholas of Greece had been madly in love, which they were not, there was no possibility of a marriage between them.

Ella married Serge in 1884, when Nicholas of Greece was 12 years old, far too early to marry. Ella remained married to the Grand Duke until his death in 1905. Prior to this, Nicholas had married Grand Duchess Elena Vladimirovna in 1902, and they remained married until Nicholas' death in 1938.

So, they were both never available at the same time.

Balkan Royal Families / Re: King Mihai of Romania and his family
« on: November 22, 2017, 09:25:25 PM »
King Michael's condition is said to have stabilized. Margarita has returned to her home in Bucharest.

The ROC continues to:

1. Refuse to recognize that the remains which have been scientifically identified as Nicholas and Alexandra's son and their daughter (we assume to be Marie). As a result, the Church has left the remains unburied and unacknowledged.


2. Refuse to recognize that the remains which were discovered in 1991 and scientifically identified as Nicholas, Alexandra, and three of their daughters. As a result, the Family were not buried under their Christian names at their funeral.

I have given up hope that Alexei and Marie will ever be buried. The ROC cares nothing for them and the only people who have standing in this matter would not be listened to.

The Producers can just appropriate her name with no cost to themselves to sell more movie tickets. It's about as crass as it comes.

I spoke to Greg King today and he is working on his Mayerling book. While I am not privy to his plans, my best guess is that he is not going to do anything on Russian history anytime soon.

Because of the nature of this trip, being secret, you will not likely find official documents which mention this trip, if it did happen. The documents that are available are mentioned on this thread and in many cases in GARF.

I'm sorry we couldn't be more helpful to you with your paper.

The Final Chapter / Re: A Question from a Friend
« on: August 21, 2017, 05:21:30 PM »
Hi GD Sophie: I first heard about the Imperial Family in 1965, when I was 11 years old - over 50 years ago! Like many of you, including maybe your friend, I had trouble accepting that they were all dead that horrible night. So I started studying and I haven't stopped since.

As to the question of whether it was possible that someone survived, of course, the answer is yes, in the knowledge that nearly anything is possible. But that isn't really a well considered question. What would be better to ask is: is it probable that someone survived?

In my opinion, the answer is unequivocally no. It is not probable. I have looked at this crime from many angles. I've had charts all over my house, pages of notes. No, as much as many of us would hope, no one survived. And I tend to think that no one who participated in these killings or who has studied these crimes really emerges unscathed, they were really that horrific. Again, this is my well considered opinion and your friend is welcome to ask others.

« on: August 21, 2017, 04:39:31 PM »
I received an email this morning from Greg King, author of FOTR:

The bit about Marie flinging herself against the storeroom doors and pounding on them, trying to get them open, was from Kudrin's 1963 statement.  So only the storeroom door at the end of the room.  And he says as soon as this was noticed Ermakov shot her - probably the wound in the thigh (given that I'm still absolutely convinced that the skeleton exhumed in 1991 was Marie's, not Anastasia's, who was only found ten years back), as he aimed beneath the smoke.  And Marie slumped to the floor (though hadn't yet suffered any fatal wounds).

I hope that helps clarify!

So Marie did try to escape the murder room and was shot in the leg, likely by Ermakov, according to Michael Medvedv-Kudrin. This is not corroborated by any of the other killers. Also, the killers had little interaction with the grand duchesses while they were alive, so I am skeptical of the specific identification.

« on: August 20, 2017, 09:33:34 AM »
I fail to see how Maria Nicholievna could have possibly run to a door and tried to get out of the murder room. I can double check with Greg King, but I don't recall ever hearing about this. The killers would have blocked the entrance door and they could scarcely have identified individual daughters under the best of circumstances, let alone in a smoke filled room.

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