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Russian Noble Families / Re: Princes Baryatinsky
« on: June 20, 2006, 12:50:49 PM »
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here is the portrait of general leutenant Anatoly Ivanovich 1820-1881

what happened to his descent ?
Wladimir Anatolievich and others ? thanks in advance.


I think...this is portrait of field marshal Prince Alexander Ivanovich :)

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Russian Noble Families / Re: Princess Imeretinsky
« on: May 19, 2006, 01:50:11 PM »
BAGRATION (GEORGIA)

This family descends from Ambat I, Prince of the Bagratids in 314, ancestor of Varaz-Tirots, Viceroy of Armenia (616-645), great-grandfather of Aschot III (726-761), ancestor of the lines of Kings of Georgia, and of the Kings of Armenia (the latter extinct in the male line). George I (996-1027), who united the Kingdoms of Abasgia and Iberia into the Kingdom of Georgia, was ancestor of the existing lines of the family which, at various times, shared sovereignty of Georgia and its dependent and neighbouring Principalities and Kingdoms. He was ancestor of Bagrat V, King of Georgia (1360-1395) and King of Imeritia (1360-1386). The latter’s second son, Constantin I (1405-1412) was founder of the two lines of Bagration (Kings of Georgia., Princes of Moukhrani) and of Kings of Imeritia, this last represented by the family of Bagration of Imeritia, IMERITINSKY (see below)


PRINCE CONSTANTINE IMERITINSKY, Serene Highness, succ his brother Prince George (b at Tsarkoe Selo 4/16 May 1897; d at Cheltenham, Glos 24 Mar 1972, Lt in Gren Guards and later Lt in RFC, m (diss by div London 14 Nov 1932) 1stly at London 28 Oct [Orthodox] and 29 Oct [Anglican] 1925 Avril Joy Mullens, b 27 Apr 1910; d at Mexico 28 Nov 1978; m 2nd at London 17 Jul 1933 Margaret Venetia Strong [b at Hammerwood, Sussex 1 Dec 1912], dau of Rev Rupert Strong and Helen Strousberg), as Head of the Royal House of Imeritia 24 Mar 1972, b at Palace of Vichnevetz 5/18 Aug 1898; d at London 20 Nov 1978.

Brother

Prince Michael, b at St Petersburg 27 Jan 1900; d at Nice 14 Apr 1975; Lt RFC, Sqdn-Ldr RAF, m 10 Dec 1925 Margaret Stella Wright (b at Swanwick, Derbyshire 14 Sep 1899; d at Menton 12 Nov 1986), dau of Henry Fitzherbert Wright, JP and Harriet Fletcher, and had issue,

1). Princess Tamara, b at Domaine de la Colla, Menton 5 Dec 1926, Hon Pres of Bagration Council, m 1stly at St George’s, Hannover Sq, London 21 Jul 1945 (m diss by div at London 12 Jun 1967) Lt-Com Thomas Smith Dorrien-Smith (b at Ashlyns Park, Herts 12 May 1913; d at Tresco Abbey 5 Dec 1973; m 2ndly 20 Jul 1967 Margaret Worthington, who had m 1st …. Jones), son of Major Arthur Smith Dorrien-Smith, DSO and Eleanor Salvin Bolwby. She m 2ndly at London 13 Jul 1967 (m diss by div … 1984) Rt Hon Charles Towneley Strachey, 4th Baron O’Hagan, MEP (b at St Marylebone, London 6 Sep 1945), son of 3rd Baron O’Hagan and Lady Mary Palmer, of the Earls of Selbourne.
(Sutton Court, Stowey, Pensford, Bristol, Great Britain).

2). Princess Nathalie, b at Domaine de la Colla, Menton 28 Aug 1930, Pres of Bagration Council, m at St Nicholas, Tresco 15 May 1957 Terence James Gray (b 14 Sep 1895; d Jan 1986), son of Sir Harold Gray, KBE and Rowena Stannus.
(Maghralreave, Lisburne, Ireland)

3). Princess Nadejda, b at Newmarket 5 Feb 1941; m at Geneva 19 Oct 1963 Karl-Heinrich Ebel (b at Dömitz, Mecklemburg 13 Apr 1932), son of Adolf Ebel and Anna Wittler.


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Imperial Succession and the Throne / Re: Prince Nicholas
« on: May 15, 2006, 12:13:20 PM »
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HSH Prince Dmitri Pavlovich Romanovsky-Ilyinsky is the jure Head of House Holstein-Gottorp.

And Prince Nicholas Romanovich Romanov know very well that HSH Prince Dmitri Pavlovich Romanovsky-Ilyinsky is the jure Head of House Holstein-Gottorp  ;)

How do you know that winniepooh?   :-?


Look:
Staffan Skott
Tsarsläkten. Vilka var de?
Vad blev av dem?
Bonniers, Stockholm 1992

First published by Albert Bonniers Förlag AB, Stockholm, 1989
chapter: U.S  marine infantery colonel
( about HSH Prince Paul Romanovsky-Ilyinsky , Head of House Holstein-Gottorp de jure )

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Imperial Succession and the Throne / Re: Prince Nicholas
« on: May 14, 2006, 01:11:00 PM »
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HSH Prince Dmitri Pavlovich Romanovsky-Ilyinsky is the jure Head of House Holstein-Gottorp.

And Prince Nicholas Romanovich Romanov know very well that HSH Prince Dmitri Pavlovich Romanovsky-Ilyinsky is the jure Head of House Holstein-Gottorp  ;)

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Imperial Succession and the Throne / Re: Prince Nicholas
« on: May 14, 2006, 01:08:32 PM »
HSH Prince Dmitri Pavlovich Romanovsky-Ilyinsky is the jure Head of House Holstein-Gottorp.

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Russian Noble Families / Re: The Bagrations
« on: April 23, 2006, 05:49:58 PM »
"to be the rightful "

Of course Bagration-Moukransky line is the rightful senior Bagratid line.
if they want: House of Bagration, Royal House of Bagration ...

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Russian Noble Families / Re: The Bagrations
« on: April 23, 2006, 03:15:53 AM »
"I did however note your odd and disparaging comment about HIH Grand Duchess Leonida Georgievna, born a Princess Bagration-Moukransky"

Leonida don`t support Romanovs and Bagrations and it is very strange...

"this line will be extinct"

No, this line exist and it is very bad move say that they don`t exist .

"Romanovs don`t exist, Bagrations don`t exist..." Romanovs exist! Real Romanovs ! And real Royal House of Georgia exist!

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Russian Noble Families / Re: Lieven family
« on: April 22, 2006, 01:22:36 PM »
Livonia, nation : live, today extinct.

Lives were finno-ugric nation , very close to estonian, very similar language.

von Lieven are live origin, but baltic german today :D

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