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Italian Royal Families / Re: Identification photos etc.
« on: July 12, 2019, 06:23:10 AM »
Does anyone know which Princess Maria Luisa is this?

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/pierre-piget-1907-1990-portrait-de-la-princesse-8db4a69a8c

I also posted on French forum, but it will more likely be someone from Italian branch of the family, either Bourbon-Parma of Bourbon Two-Sicilies?

What do you think?

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French Royals / Re: Identification,please
« on: July 12, 2019, 06:21:26 AM »

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Who understands Russian, there is a blog about Horsens palace and children of Anna Leopoldovna:

https://www.florapassionis.com/russisk-hof-horsens-denmark/

Unfortunately, I don't understand Russian, but to some who do, here is a link :-)

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Group photo of Ferdinand and Eleonore's wedding taken in Castle Osterstein, owned by the Reuss family:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Hochzeit_des_F%C3%BCrsten_von_Bulgarien_auf_Schlo%C3%9F_Osterstein%2C_1908.jpg

Many identified royal guests can be seen in the photo.

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The Wittlesbachs / Re: Who is Violante of Neuburg/Thurn und Taxis?
« on: March 04, 2019, 10:00:50 AM »
I think it has as of yet not been possible to establish exactly how Violante Marie's line was connected to the main Thurn und Taxis line.  :-\

They were very distantly related in male line. Both Violante and Princely line descended from Rugerius Delaytus de Tazzo(died in 1333). Princely line descended from his son Benedictus, while Violante and her family descended from his brother Paxius.

P.S. This is not certain connection, because I combined few genealogy sites to come to this.

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Interesting article about Catargiu family, family of Maria Elena, mother of King Milan:

http://vranceaaltfel.ro/costin-catargiu-intrigantul/

I used google translate, as the article is in Romanian.

And photo of young Maria Elena Obrenovic:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0qB22hfi-q0/VqTfrEHJLvI/AAAAAAAA7k0/Z8ZcwHL1mr8/s1600/Maria_Obrenovici_DSC00306.JPG

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Balkan Royal Families / Re: Tzar Ferdinand of Bulgaria and his family
« on: February 28, 2019, 05:20:03 PM »
Interesting that Luise Sophie's family background (Danish, South German with a dash of British, reduced circumstances due to exile and some Prussian mehr sein als schein') contrasted with the Reuss' East Central German Duodez-style Standesdünkel.

Well, Reuss was one of the oldest ruling families in Europe and they might have been very well aware of this and behaved due to that fact, no matter how many there were and how small their territory was. They were also very well connected.

Btw, Queen Victoria's grandmother was Princess of Reuss-Ebersdorf, which means almost every Crowned Head in Europe in late 19th century descended from Reuss family. Charlotte of Saxe-Meiningen, granddughter of the German Emperor and great granddaughter of Queen Victoria married also Prince of Reuss-Köstritz. Eleonore's uncle Prince Heinrich VI was married to Princess Alexandrine von Sachsen-Weimar und Eisenach, who was grand-daughter of the King of the Netherlands and great-granddaughter of the Empreror of Russia. So, there were many important connections.

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Balkan Royal Families / Re: Tzar Ferdinand of Bulgaria and his family
« on: February 28, 2019, 04:56:36 AM »
Thank you for an answer. I would also like to know more about the circumstances of this particular Reuss/Ospenniy engagement. Also, considering the fact that Reuss family were very "aware of themselves".

Svetabel wrote in another thread, regarding Reuss/Prussia marriage of Princesss Victoria Margaret and Prince Heinrich XXXIII Reuss(Eleonore's fist cousin) that her mother, Luise Sophie, sister of the Empress "didn't like a sophisticated surroundings of the Reuss Princes, as she considered them too arrogant and insisted that the life of her family was very simple and unpretentious."

Eleonore's father Heinrich IV Reuss and father of the groom in question(Heinrich XXXIII Reuss) Heinrich VII Reuss were brothers, so we are talking about the same family, which was "considered too arrogant". Princess Eleonore was born in Castle Trebschen:

http://www.henryvandevelde.pl/zdjecia/konferencja2007/von-der-bank/07.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trzebiech%C3%B3w,_Zielona_G%C3%B3ra_County

The castle looks rather grand, which points that Eleonore wasn't brought up like a minor Princess without any expectations, but perhaps because of her "looks", she wasn't very eligible and her parents saw first opportunity to marry her off. Also to note that her uncle Prince Heinrich VII Reuss was personal adjutant to Wilhelm I and was also the first ambassador of the new German Empire to St. Peterburg in Russia. So, beside Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna as her first cousin, Eleonore was very well connected and had links to almost everyone in one way or another.

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Balkan Royal Families / Re: Tzar Ferdinand of Bulgaria and his family
« on: February 26, 2019, 06:05:08 PM »
I have read in Wikipedia:

"At the age of seventeen, Eleonore was engaged to Count Mark Alexandrovich Ospeni [ru]. The day after the engagement the Count was summoned to Russia because of the start of the Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878). Count Ospeni is wounded after the battle at the village of Telish and later died from these wounds."

Does anyone knows who this Count Mark Alexandrovich Ospeni is? I couldn't find anything about him or his family, maybe due to wikipedia spelling...

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Does anybody know, who had precedence in Imperial court?

Did Princess Elena had precedence over all Princes/Princesses of blood(styled as HH) as the only member of the Imperial family who was still HRH after her marriage or was she treated as wife of HH? 

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The Hohenzollern / Re: Kaiserin Augusta Viktoria (Dona)
« on: November 18, 2018, 02:41:20 PM »
I find it ironical that the marriages Vicky arranged all played out against her in the end. She strongly supported the match between her brother Bertie and Danish Alix that became one factor in the alienation of Germany and Britain - she supported her daughter's unhappy Battenberg romance - and she supported her son's marriage to Dona whose father she and Fritz liked very much. Vicky was, iirc, Dona's godmother and liked her initially.

Well, surely, she had her reasons. Regarding Bertie, she knew that there are not many eligible Princesses around. Before that some of them considered Princess Elisabeth zu Wied, which he described as "not a beauty", let alone others, so she might opted for Alaexandra as her brother liked her from the beginning. Regarding Battenberg, she maybe only wanted her daughter happy, so, being a Battenberg was not so big problem in her eyes, compared to her daughters happiness. As for Dona, she might have supported her as they were closely related, Dona was granddaughter of her aunt Feodora.

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The Imperial Family / Re: identification
« on: November 08, 2018, 06:14:59 AM »
I am impressed with your knowledge! :-)

Thank you!

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Russian Noble Families / Re: Biron descendants
« on: October 24, 2018, 04:06:44 PM »
Isn't it a strange coïncidence that the Russian Wikipedia lists a certain Hegumen Alexey, Chief of the Russian Ecclesiastical Mission of the ROCOR in Jerusalem (1997–2000) (see link) as born in Belgrad in 1957 as "Андрей ван Бирон" (Andrey van Buren?), to a Russian father and a Hungarian mother? The arms listed for him on the page is certainly a variety of the von Bühren arms which feature in the Biron of Courland arms, but remember that "van Buren" is a rather common Dutch surname, in addition to the name of an extinct Dutch noble family, which produced Willem the Silent's wife Countess Anna van Buren. A bourgeois Van Buren was US President Martin Van Buren.

Thank you for finding this.

It is very possible that there is some link between them and that these are same Birons as the others in Belgrade. They said that the have come from Ukraine to the Yugoslavia, after the revolution. They also say that they are connected with the Kurland branch through the brother of the first Duke and that they represent some collateral branch of the same family. They said that certificate was listed in one of the Russian nobility books.

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Russian Noble Families / Re: Biron descendants
« on: October 07, 2018, 03:22:54 AM »
The only thing I found in it was a mention of a lesser noble family "Biren", but the family was not of high enough nobility to list the family lineage.

Thank you very much for your answer.

I know the genealogy of Biron von Kurland family, but couldn't find anything about other "branch", as they claim to be.

It would probably be this "Biren" family, as this guy doesn't claim that his family has ducal title, nor that he descended from the Dukes of Kurland, but that of a Baron and that they are collateral branch of the family, which was somehow related to them. Their family name is just Biron, or von Biron.

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